The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 2: Dalton, Dallas, or Dawson! (feat. Mina Kimes)

Episode Date: January 28, 2025

Was Bud Grant a fraud? Have you ever blamed an animal for your farts? What's the creepiest mascot in sports? Why does Greg Cote call flatulence "letting a pet?" Hour 2 is off to a great start. Then, Mina Kimes joins the show to break down all things football including the Raiders coaching move, the most interesting aspects of this year's Super Bowl, and the Bears new offense. She also shares her thoughts on Jerry Jones' glory hole comments and plays America's new favorite game: "Dalton, Dallas, or Dawson!" Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Let's create the agent-first future together. Head to salesforce.com slash careers to learn more. This is the Don LeBattor Show with the StuGuts Podcast. I had a friend who was a bad football player back in high school. Couldn't run that football by us so bought a team called the Cowboys Saw him the other night in this bathroom stall I was walking in, he was walking out He came up to me and explained he has a few ginks And all he kept talking about Glorios Yeah they're just about the high

Glorios Careful where you put your eyes Glorios Glorious, ever just about the high Glorious Careful where you put your eyes Glorious, Glorious Stu got said in my ear, I don't know if it was my ear, everyone's ears, that song will always make me move And then he added, no matter how shitty the lyrics That was good Jeremy hell of an effort. I appreciate that you keep taking these big giant hacks musically It's very vulnerable and you're doing it very quick We've been arguing with each other during the break because Greg Cody says bud grant is a perfect football name

because Greg Cody says Bud Grant is a perfect football name but he also says that Bud Grant is cheating because his real name is Harry Peter Grant and no one would trust Harry Peter Grant as their football coach. No. Yeah when I was looking up his real name I learned that Bud Grant, Hall of Fame NFL coach, used to play in the NBA. I never knew that. Huh. But Bud Grant is a perfect football name. Yes it is but he changed his name to Bud. Yes make it Harry. Harry Peter Grant is an imperfect football name. Right. Right. Billy was saying during the break that he would go to a Dr. McDaniel. Yeah. Yeah. Everybody knows that. General doctor. Oh. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Everybody knows that. General doctor?

Ooh, general practitioner. Yeah. That's a good question. I don't know if I don't know if Dr. McDaniel's getting that. All right. So Abe Gibran played for the Bears in the 50s and then he coached for the Bears in the 60s and the 70s but he also coached for a team called the Chicago Wins which was a WFL teamFL team Greg do you remember the WFL in 1975 I do yeah I think I think a young Donald Trump owned a team for a time it's at the USFL you're talking about it could be yeah mix up all those F.L.s okay very good that was an expertise you went to a lot of F.L.s That you just baffled, look, he's tired from Sunday night. He came.

It's 1120. It's true. So you think that Herschel Walker and Donald Trump were on this, the team? Yeah, they were teammates. Well, they tried to hire, or tried to sign Joe Namath. That was like Chicago wins claim to fame. And I guess he said no.

Trump and Herschel Walker being aligned is crazy to you? Being aligned in the 50s and 60s is the crazy part to me. It's not. Terrible name by the way. Chicago Wind. It's time for America. At LeBotard Show is the wind terrible name for a sports team. If you beat that team you're breaking wind.

Winds, plural. It's like a Windy City thing. Correct. I got that. My god, I can't believe how low common denominator Cody and Stugats have decided to make the last 15 minutes. What do you mean? What am I doing?

You're breaking wind? Yeah. Letting a pet. Nobody calls it either of those things. He's right. Wait a minute breaking wind is a common Yes, yes people know what that means, but people aren't saying that I just broke wind everybody says he broke wind Yeah, that's what my Grammy used to say. Thank you Instead of diabetes did she really yeah Wow see there that's verification. Thank you. Thank you. No. Thank you Jess I appreciate you saying that imagine calling a team to Chicago toots no one would do it

the pets Chicago pets That should be a nickname for a sports team Which one what's more popular in America than pets? Everybody has a dog and a cat, we love pets, no team has ever been named the pets. For the uninitiated in the Cody household since Greg Cody was very young, a million years ago, the way they refer to their farts is not merely pets, but it's because it rhymes, someone in the house let a pet. That is not breaking wind, that is just the rhyming let of a pet.

And it's only called a pet so he can say that a let has been pet. What? What? Or a pet has been let. You're confusing me. A pet has been a let. Excuse me, I'm sorry. I got so confused by the rhythmic wonder that is you've been saying this for how long in your life? It's Venmo Fine, by the way.

Yeah. That misspeak by you. Double. Okay. Why is it double? It's Tuesday. You denigrated the pet. Do you have a back of my day, by the way, Tuesday?

I don't, no. Well, he gets Sunday. Well, he works Yeah, today's really his Wednesday. Yeah, Greg You know you mentioned that pets are very popular in America and you're right Which makes me wonder why team names aren't like pet names Like we always go with like a bulldog like some sort of vicious cat, right? We never have like the golden doodles. Yeah, which is not Charlie the Chicago Chicago dogs get it cuz it's I like that pets and I think you're on to something. Thank you. That's good dog pound What yeah, by the way, I want to hark back for just saying we were talking about changing flat tires

Yeah, I want to tell you a fact and you're gonna think I'm kidding. Okay Queen Elizabeth the second who we just lost. I think she lived to be almost a hundred didn't she she could change a tire Because she was a trained mechanic who drove a military truck in World War two Wow Wow, so I Just picture her changing a tire and it's pretty it's pretty neat. You got her like sliding out from underneath the car. Yes, right Lizzy tires. Exactly. I want you guys to look something up for me, because this was told to me the other day,

and I didn't believe it, and I didn't look it up. But I think it might be fact that there was a time in royalty where there were queens or royalties handlers, people who were employed to simply take the blame if the queen or princess let a pet. People who were under the employ of royalty, of the government, and that their job, I don't know what this job was,

like what it was called or what it is that were the qualifications. The Metal Art Video Department. But they were just... It's called Stugats. They are just meant to absorb the farts. Can you guys find some more information on this for me, please? Because I'd like to be able to close the loop on this

if this is what we're going to be talking about. But the letting of a pet, how long has this been said in the household? Since I was a child. So it was hand me down through the family, it wasn't even yours, it was something that your parents said? My parents used to say that. Wild Bill? So yeah, Wild Bill and Root.

Do we know if it goes back before them? This is the family heirloom in the Cody household, because no one else says this, correct? I'm trying to pass it along to my and christopher refuses to indoctrinate my granddaughter there's no one else there's no one else who does this right when when billy says to attend what not do we have an assortment of colorful language that other people in here have used around the kids for what this is or is letting a pet the exclusive domain of g Coating never to be used by anybody else? It's not a common phrase of any kind, correct?

I mean it could be, but Christopher doesn't want to pass it on. Right, yeah, he's killed it. I've said pet to my daughter, but she's more, she says toot whenever she farts, she's a big, I just tooted. Well, you gotta try harder with the pet thing. I will.

And pet works on a different, a couple of different levels, quick example. If I let a pet in the house and Earline's like Greg. I'm like Charlie did that jumpin Charlie Yeah, because Charlie is a pet letter where I a lot of dogs and it's very noticeable You know, it's a pungent right smell and so I am free to blame the dog For what I have discreetly done. What does that have to do with it being called a pet though? You're letting the pet take the blame.

Yes, thank you. That's exactly what I mean. You could let it toot, you can blame a toot on a dog toot. You're acting like calling it a pet is now I can blame my dog on it because I call it a pet. Because pets let pets. Pets let pets and my wife knows that. Sometimes she'll remark how Charlie just made a big smell. Did you ever let a pet and then blame the dog instantly? Put it on the poll, Choo Choo at Levitard Show.

I'm like, Finny! At Levitard Show. Have you ever blamed a bodily odor on one of your animals at Levitard Show? I can't find the story that you were talking about, Dan, regarding royalty and blaming farts on others, but there is a story of Queen Elizabeth apparently farting and then blaming the horses.

Yeah. Hmm. I'm with her. Yep. Same theory, same theory. Classic. Mm-hmm. Has your dog ever farted, Greg,

and your wife doesn't believe that it wasn't you? All the time. Every time. Yeah you all the time every time yeah Has mom ever blamed a pet on the pet women don't fart you know that yeah mine does whoa boy We will get back to her way race as a racehorse owner, I'm gonna testify Horses are very, very flatulent. Really? Yeah.

Very, very flatulent. Put it on the poll, at Lebatard Show, do you know that horses are very, very flatulent at Lebatard Show? I saw a thing, Greg, the other day talking about transporting horses, and it said that they do enjoy the expressway. Oh, so we finally got to, we got finally. Thank you. You said the opposite. No, he said that they do enjoy the expressway. Oh so we finally got to we got finally thank you we said the opposite no no he said that that was me

I was the one I was the one questioning whether or not horses like things we were talking about though generally horse racing because Greg also maintains that they like being whipped so that they run fast. No I've never said that but there's a way to uh... crop the horse that is humane uh... they have tough hide keep that in mind it's like john charlie ice-eyed gingerly and what i'm lian

in in for fun like all crack charlie right on the air he loves that who dogs love that they like to be needed well in the hindquarters i have the animals who fart the most cows number one horses are number three termites and upset number two Do you think if horses let a pet while they're racing, it helps them? I think they do it all the time. A little turbo boost? All right, you know what?

The conversation wasn't dumb enough before. You had to add that plume of smoke to it. I feel like it's like a net neutral because I feel like the three seconds before the fart, they like, oh, I got something. But then when they fart, they catch up to whatever they lost. They speed up. That's why they call it gas. Yeah, like Mario Kart. Right they they speed up. That's why they call it gas. Yeah

Press the gas exactly Termites termites is what I'm Really is all of us measure that What a bad job? What do you do for a living? I measure termite pets. Imagine like you're an exterminator the first time you hear one. Like what, was that you? I need more information on this.

Like Ron McGill doesn't know that, right? If I ask Ron McGill, hey Ron, termite, gassy? There's no, he doesn't know this, right? This is ask Ron McGill, hey Ron, termite, gassy? He doesn't know this, right? This is a bit of a- He probably does, yeah. The exterminator's wife, Chris, is probably like, no fucking way! I know that was you!

You're blaming the termite. Honey, I swear. Jess, has this happened around Willow? Does Willow get blamed for pets in the house? Oh, all the time. But she has a very clean diet, except for the days when she comes to work and people feed her Chick-fil-A fries and then all bets are off.

Yeah, you got to be careful. No more of that. Greg Termites would be a great name for a team, right? Yeah, it would. Toronto Termites? Yes. I love that. It has to be a tea city.

What is the weakest of the animals? Like, there is a team called the Banana Slugs. That's not an animal. But like, in terms of the animals like there's a team called the banana slugs that's not an animal but like in terms of weak animals when Greg Cody mentions that all mascots are ferocious in some form obviously Oregon Ducks are not terribly ferocious but what is the what is the weakest of the sports nicknames that involves an animal that's wildly unimpressive I was gonna go with the color brown Jacksonville jumbo shrimp Hmm, and a slug is an animal I Mean a cardinal

Cardinals are mean birds are that I would whoop a cardinal mean the color cardinal Cardinals and blue jays are known in the you know flying Kingdom. How about a pelican you mean? Yeah, pelicans are sort of goofy looking at Sort of goofy looking answer tree it's sort of goofy yeah the tree are they still named the Stanford tree no way that's the name of like their band mascot it's like this little annoying tree that dances around and makes fun of everyone he's a little jerk cardinal singular is the color cardinals is is the bird yeah? Pepperdine's mascot is a wave but waves can be strong No, not some way Well Tampa Bay change their team name to the rays, but not the devil rays right just the ray of light

Yes, ridiculous come on. They get afraid of that. You know somebody from a church said Why are you glorifying the devil and they change the name probably someone that survived a plane crash exactly it's a gag it's a gag Purdue just a guy named Pete he's creepy though he killed a lot of people turns out that termite farts contain methane and termites apparently produce one to three percent of all of our methane gas emissions. So termite farts are causing climate change. You should ask Dr. Bend over the next time you go about this, Greg. I'm going to. Wow.

That's interesting. Purdue Pete is creepy. It really is. Why is that? How is it that you've created a mascot? There aren't a lot of other mascots that are creepy, right? That you would describe as Friar, he's creepy. So creepy. But Pete's definitely got bodies in the closet.

He's got like witty vibes. Who else in the mascot industry gives off creep? Because I- Steely McBeam. Oh yeah. Oh that's a good one. I almost thought of him as cartoonish. What was the big baby the Pelicans had for a little bit?

Yeah, King Baby Cake. Yeah. That was a little creepy. See, that was creepy. That baby was creepy. That's a good selection right there. You don't get, we can't come up with five creepy mascots, can we?

If we go history of sports? The Oregon Ducks mascot is very creepy. That's Donald Duck. How have they gotten away with that? That's you not liking ducks. It literally is. They had to get copyright permission, Billy. I saw a whole TikTok about this recently.

I'm sure they did. Ohio State's mascot is very creepy. Brutus. Very creepy. With the big wide head. Very, very creepy. I've never heard of Ohio State. Yeah, sure thing. Hey, you sold that car yet? Yeah, sold it to Carvana. I've never heard of Ohio State. This is a message from sponsor Intuit Turbo Tax. Now taxes are 100% free when you file in the Turbo Tax app if you're a first-time filer or didn't file with Turbo Tax last year.

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Don Lebatard. Did you get lost on the way to Home Depot today, Dan? Like, what what's going on with the plants? Get his ass, Mina. Stugats. But you look like you're about to ask me to like check the oil on my car. Get him. Or like come over and like look around and point things in my house that need to be fixed.

This is the Don Lebatard Show with the Stugats. Happy to see Mina Kimes here. We've got to get maximum information out of her. Everybody wants some football information. Also need to tell people that she's got a live show in February in which she is raising funds. All of the money is going to help people in the Palisades so we will talk to her about that as well

But before we get started here Mina The question that we were talking about before you came on in Greg Cody's household When he or someone else has farted since going back to his parents They call it the letting of a pet the letting of a pet has your family decided how they're going to handle this around and with your child wait why is it called the letting of a pet I think it's a gentle way to say fart you know like my mother would go, who let a pet? Oh, like a sound maybe? I'm just trying to understand the.

Yeah, don't try to make sense of it. Just try and bring it in your own household and give us anything good you've got there. Because Billy was arguing vigorously on behalf of the toot, the toot around children. Just call it a toot. Toot. Yeah, the toot.

And I didn't know whether anything in your household had a name. No, it is just farts, but we have a little bit, we don't have any real husband and I parenting disagreements yet. Our child is too young to make difficult decisions around, right? Like when it comes to actually discipline and things like that. But he does do something that is concerning to me and I fear will breed bad habits, which is whenever my kid farts, my husband just applauds. And I think now he thinks it's something,

because at this point it's just all Pavlovian. Everything he thinks is just in response to what sort of reaction it engenders. And I'm worried he's gonna come away thinking this is a good thing. Well, it is. I mean, you gotta get it out. No but that is, I think that might be some bad dadding.

There might be some formative scars there on all of a sudden you've got a fourth grader that can't stop farting in the classroom because dad used to applaud it. He's not a guy you wanna take into a crowded theater with a lot of applause. I wanted to ask you Mina, Osiris Torrance was quoted as saying on the last fourth and five play of the Chiefs

They set it up. It was like they were waiting to get in that situation all game to bring that one pressure To hear that from the Bills locker room. I Winced on behalf of the Bills on that one the center just giving it up Yeah in a game where the Chiefs have won 17 times by one score, that's how they do it. Yeah, it was so crazy when that happened too because Steve Sagnolo, the Chiefs defensive coordinator, we always talk about how great he is, right? But I also think, and it manifests itself in the creativity and timing and strangeness of some of these pressures, but I also think that he almost sequences them

like an offensive coordinator, like how we think of Kyle Shanahan, or he's calling this run to set up this, you know, play action pass later, and then he's gonna use the same formation. And I think Spagnolo does similar things, because on that drive, the previous play, they zero blitzed them.

The Bills had the right call, it was a screen to Amari Cooper. Just unfortunately, he tripped and didn't get the first down. And it really looked like they were going to zero him again and I think Allen thought he would have the shallow cross and they just looked totally unprepared for winning up Happing and it was a reminder that the Chiefs defensive coordinator not becoming a head coach has been such a pivotal part of this dynasty. We were talking before you came on about how to do the measurements on which of these coaches are actually gonna be able to bring leadership

in a league where McCarthy is still coveted somehow, and I wouldn't have thought that McCarthy would be coveted anymore, not with the young kids coming up. So which are the hires that you're looking at that you're excited by, because you think those people are bringing something that other people can't bring?

I mean, I am really excited about the Ben Johnson hire in Chicago because I don't think and Dominique and I kind of disagree about this Sometimes I don't think it's like a knee jerk. You got to hire the hot young coordinator with the best offense I understand that sometimes that doesn't work. Sometimes you want more of a CEO type coach or defensive minded head coach. But watching that offense in Detroit the last couple of years, and then watching what Caleb had to deal with this year, I'm really interested in seeing

like a more quarterback friendly offense for him. And I think it's gonna be really successful. Counterpoint is the Bears. So. Mm. Yep. How many teams can you say that? Like when people are like,

hey, I'm really hopeful, like this Jags coach, is gonna really get the most out of Trevor Lutz, and people go, excuse me, it's the Jaguars. Like what percentage of teams can you actually pull that for? Because I feel like it's actually. I can answer that, you could say for 40 years. I've been saying it for 40 years with the Jets. The Jets, the Jaguars, the Bears, those ones for sure.

The Dolphins. Dude, I like your coach, Tyre. Aaron Wynne. Yeah, so do I. Just because he wants to be there. I mean, that's a good starting point. I know, he came out in that press conference, he was like, buckle up your seatbelt. I was like, all right, a little bit of a strange image

because you're a Jed and is it countering turbulence if you have a seatbelt? But then he was like, this is Jets football. And I'm like, you know what Jets football connotes, right? And he said it like it was a good thing. Mina. New York Jets football and I'm like Eric like you know what Jets football connotes right and he said it like it was a good thing. Mina, were the Raiders desperate or smart to make Pete Carroll the oldest coach in history? I think smart in a lot of ways like with all these coaches when they're hired I always give this sort of cowardly caveat I don't know if he's

gonna be a good leader but it's true. I don't know if he's gonna be a good leader, but it's true we really don't know with a lot of these guys if they're going to be the next Sean McVay or Insert at an urban Meyer. Well, we knew about our buyer But I think with Carol the advantage you have is like we already know the guys is like an unbelievable leader He is beloved by players. I also think you know, he has a proven track record with the young quarterback He's very very smart at coaching defense. The only concern I would have is if you're the Raiders and you're drafting a young quarterback, how long is he going to be the head coach? But other than that, I thought it was a

pretty good hire. Are the Raiders one of those teams too that you can kind of feel like, eh? Yeah, yeah. People do that. How many games can you not do that? I guess, like the four remaining playoff teams? I'll make a list, I'll get back to you. Let's play for Mina, Jerry Jones talking here. Mina, what is your reaction to this sound right here? There's a very low percentage of this

that is smiles and glory holds. Very low. How is that? is smiles and glory holes. Very low. Let's play the longer version for Meena here so that she can fully sink into it. For me it's a reminder. I too have been here 23 years. And it is a reminder, I've been here when it was glory hole days and I've been here when it wasn't. And so having said that, I want me some glory hole. The rough times that you have with sport, everybody has it, everybody, you can't really play unless you have some hard times. But it is the absolute glory hole to have that elusive win to be the champion.

Story of the year. Mina, do you believe that Jerry Jones is brilliant? Well, he said the question. I think he's very old and maybe there's an old timey definition of that term. Yeah. This is actually happening with Jerry Jones before where he's used a term and everyone was like, wait, what? And then it turned out to be something that was like

retired in the 1930s. No, that's what it is. It's gold or drilling or something, it's something. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Gloria. Yeah, but that's not how anybody received it. It meant something different when he was a kid. Even Greg Cody, yes, who is 70, even Greg Cody knew better than to use that.

Like whatever information Jerry Jones has on that word, we called the Cowboys. We asked them, has someone told Jerry this? And they're like, no, they're all too afraid to tell him. What a great though, like microcosm of the Dallas Cowboys in general, right? Like stuck in the past and two people are too afraid to tell the owner. What do you find to be most interesting about this Super Bowl?

I think the fact, first of all, the coaching matchup is really fascinating. Really like for, remember in the previous, uh, there were a couple of questions ago when I said, Oh, I can't wait to see this young, brilliant offensive mind, you know, Ben Johnson with, and I really do think that, um, that's going to work out. But then you look at the Superbowl and it's like a bunch of old dogs. I mean, it minus Kellan Moore, it's Andy Reed, Vic Fangio, Steve Spagnuolo, old brilliant coaches. And I think that that's cool. I think the battle between Reid and Fangio in particular

is really intriguing to me. I think you got one team with the best quarterback and then you have one team that clearly has a better team in the Philadelphia Eagles. That's interesting to me because it always sort of tests the importance of the quarterback position. Not that Patrick Mahomes is the same thing He has good players, but I'm just saying like the Eagles are on paper the better team

But I suspect a lot of people are gonna pick the Chiefs just because they have a better quarterback I'd say that teams you can sort of offhandedly dismiss are the Bears the Raiders the Jets the Browns the Jags Carolina The Dolphins and the Giants. It's a good list. It is Teams you can't dismiss anymore the Jags, Carolina, the Dolphins, and the Giants. It's a good list. It is. Dolphin. Teams you can't dismiss anymore, commanders, bucks, lions. But people don't do that with the Giants. People like when someone says,

oh, it seems like the Shudder Sanders is gonna be great there. People aren't like, excuse me, sir. Okay, I think. It's the Giants. I think my opinion is candid. You have to imagine, can somebody use that voice? I live with a Giants fan who dismisses

every positive thought I've ever tried to like offer him about the Giants. I'm like, oh, but they should or say, oh, this Malik neighbors really good. He's like, no, you're wrong. They're terrible. They've, there have always been bad. Even the Superbowl teams were bad. They're the worst team ever.

I'm like, okay, fine. You're right. He missed the glory days. I mean, glory. Thank you. Glory hole would be a great name for, well, I'm sure that there are bars named after it, but like a stadium, like a college football stadium, like you know, come to the city.

The glory hole. The hole. The glory hole, where legends are made. The glory hole. Come on by, you never know what's on the other side. The glory hole. Do you wanna keep going? No, I do.

You're all done? Okay, excellent. So, I asked this question of Diana Rusini before poorly, but how many offensive Eagles are better at their jobs than Jalen Hurts is at his job? How many people, and I don't even mean this as a slight on Jalen Hurts,'s just to illustrate it feels like a slight no but it's just illustrated how loaded a team that it is I'm really asking me now how many people do for the Eagles on offense their jobs better than Jalen does meaning no insult to Jalen well the way you phrased it is insulting to him the way I think that the actual intent of

the question is how many people rank like higher in their positions across the league than you would rank Jalen Hurts quarterback. And it is not actually about Jalen because, you know, I think everyone basically is at minimum like a top 15 quarterback. It's really about the Eagles being an all-star team, which is what you're alluding to, right? Like multiple positions on the offensive line, they have top, some top one, but top five players. positions on the offensive line they have top some top one but top five players AJ Brown is top five receiver Dallas Goddard maybe top five tight end is a little bit out of it this point Saquon Barkley top one or two running back that's

ridiculous so you're looking at least like four or five players Dan who are like all pro pro bowl level at their positions Mina let me try it this way because Greg and I were having this discussion about Jalen Hurts. In a weird world, if the Eagles could decide to play in the Super Bowl, and they had to choose one of these guys to sit, Jalen Hurts or Saquon Barkley, which guy would they choose?

That's such a good, you're so good at this. That's such a good question. How has first take never done that? I don't know. I don't know. It hurts? I think they go, well. Well, Mina, look.

The answer's a one. Mina, I just saw what happened to the Dolphins, okay? This has been an amazing thing to watch happen in my lifetime. I just saw what happened to the Dolphins when they had to go to their backup quarterback. The fact that this Eagles team in a previous incarnation with a different coach beat Tom Brady and thumped him over the head with Super Bowl MVP backup quarterback Nick Foles the fact that this team can win Super Bowls while hiding their quarterback

And but that's such it's the comparison to Miami is so great because it shows you it's not really about the quarterbacks. Like the fact that the Miami Dolphins offense fell apart without Tua doesn't mean that, oh my God, Tua's worth every penny. Although I think you certainly see his value to the offense in some ways. It shows you how horribly constructed the offense is, right? I mean, you watch that offense.

I've seen Tyler Huntley have success with the Baltimore Ravens as a backup quarterback. It must be the Cincinnati Baggles that one year. But you watch them in the Miami Dolphins and you realize, man, Miami, did I say Dolphins? Dolphins offense. It's so fragile. It's so reliant on the fact that the quarterback throws the ball quickly. That's not a good thing.

It's great that the quarterback does, but you don't want an offense that completely falls apart if you can't have A quarterback who throws the ball and listen to in half seconds Just to be clear because I think Stu got you confused Maybe yourself in the audience you made it sound like if you had to bench one of the other you said the obvious Answer is Saquon. It is the obvious answer. You would bench Saquon. I would yeah would want to play the Super Bowl with Jalen Hurts Yes You would bench Saquon? I would, yeah, I would want to play the Super Bowl with Jalen Hurts, yes. He wants Hurts and Will Shipley instead of Saquon and Kenny Pickett. Will Shipley had four carries for 77 yards.

Anyone could run behind that line. Sorry, Saquon. I think you're right. I'm going to walk back. I think you would go with Hurts, but I don't think anyone could do what Saquon is doing behind that offensive line. I want to play a new game with Mina based on yesterday where all of us were confused for some reason between an assortment of Bills named Dallas, Dawson, and Dalton.

So time for a new game here with Mina. It is Dalton, Dallas, or Dawson is what we're gonna do here because we yes, Bills white people that have run around and and we confuse whether they're Dallas Dawson or Dalton. Can I get the choices again? I gotta write this down. Yes we're gonna put up some pictures for a second. I think Mina's gonna play this game better than everybody else. I appreciate that we're playing this game. I don't know their faces that well. Keep in track it's called Dalton, Dallas, or Dawson. Thank you.

Is this, that's right. So is it Dallas Clark? Is it Dalton Kincaid? Don't give hints. All right, let's look at the first picture. Put it up, guys. Here we go. Very game show hosting.

All right, Mina, sorry for the audio audience. Who is that? That's Dawson Knox. I think. That's Dawson Knox. That is Dawson Knox, good job Mina. Yes, Mina way to go. For the audio audience, Mina just saw a picture of Dawson Knox. Well let's see the next one.

Go ahead Mina, this is easy because it's the same team. Yeah, that would be Dalton Kincaid. All right, good job video team, probably should have gone with another one. The audio audience. Let's do the next one. Mina just saw a photo of Dalton Kincaid. The bills look on his head. It's gotta be Dallas.

I mean, I don't know. All right, Mina, who's that? I don't know who this man is. That's Dallas Clark. What? And former Colts. Put him in a Colts uniform, she would just, wow. He looks like Tim Allen. I was gonna say the same thing. What? And former Colts. Put him in a Colts uniform, she would just. Wow.

He looks like Tim Allen or something. I was gonna say the same thing. Yes, that was the era of Colts football where we were always asking if Peyton Manning could get a shopping cart with a mannequin arm into the Hall of Fame. All right, let's do the next one with Mina. Mina, who's that?

That's James Van Der Beek. What was his famous character's name? Oh, Dawson. Oh, that's Dawson. Yeah. Mina, Mina, that's not the way the game is played. You don't play that. Is it Dalton, Dallas, or Dawson?

That's James Van Der Beek. For the audio audience, Mina just saw a picture of a man named James. All right, our final one. Show Mina. Oh, wow. picture of a man named James. All right, our final one. Show Mina. Oh, wow! Yes! Wow!

Mina, you don't know these movies, do you, Mina? We are- I do? That's, I know the actors. Right? Mina, you don't know the actors. Is this Roadhouse? Yeah. Yes.

Dallas something would be my guess. Oh, that's a good guess. Understandable, but that's Dalton. That's a Dalton. I've never seen Roadhouse. Good game, that was fun. All right, excellent. Was that thing where she lies about telling you

she's seen a movie just because she wants to be part of the conversation? I know, it's Roadhouse one of those movies. I mean, do you really have to see Roadhouse to get to what Roadhouse is about? Do you believe, Mina, we were talking about this yesterday, are you believing the statistical, or it's a statistical fact that CBS can accurately promote Kathy Bates in Matlock as America's

new favorite television show? America's, can they accurately do that? Is that, do you believe the ratings that that can be America's new favorite television show? Americans, can they accurately do that? Is that, do you believe the ratings that that can be America's new favorite game show, or new favorite television show? I think you could make a poll, you could poll three people in an office and say that it's a representative sample of America.

I was thinking about this though, who was it? I think it was Jim Brown, so it must have been CBS, who was thrown into some new show they had with Morris Chestnut, and he was like, Fox, Watson, you won't believe it. He's a doctor, and I'm like, but he's also, he's also a detective! And I'm just saying to myself,

God, I'm gonna miss hearing these guys throw to these new network shows so much. I think it's a Sherlock spinoff. It's like a Sir Arthur, Conan Doyle, but Dr. Watson spinoff. He's a lawyer. But he doesn't play by the rules. I love those shows.

Would you go to an ENT named Eberfluss? Dr. Eberfluss. Yes. Yeah, yeah. But not a podiatrist named Eberfluss? Dr. Eberfluss. Yes. Yeah, yep. But not a podiatrist named Eberfluss. Would you go to a podiatrist named Eberfluss? Yeah, why not? Just don't want him lower half of the body.

Just... Pinochet, the dolphins play in Finland, that's what Greg said earlier. Great question. Why? Just because Finn? Yeah, yeah. You get it.

Reason enough. And he doesn't want to go to Spain. He says it's 4,000 miles away. He doesn't want to come. I think it's pretty clear the Dolphins shouldn't be anywhere near cold weather. It's a good point. This iteration of it. When's that game in Spain mean?

Just, you know, if you've heard of the hubbub around the league. Got some planning to do. We're trying to plan out this trip, but I mean, they're really waiting till the last minute. You're trying to get the show to send you to Spain. No, no, no. We're going to visit out this trip, but I mean, they're really waiting till the last minute. You're trying to get the show to send you to Spain. No, no, no, we're going to visit my wife's family. Wink, wink, shh. We will get to the bottom of the reporting

on that Dolphins to Spain story. We will let you go on that note, Mina, unless you have any more super secret, important, Super Bowl thoughts that we need to hear before you leave. No, I just wanted to thank you guys again for mentioning my show. If you're in Los Angeles it's next Monday. We still have some tickets available. Double your tickets will be donated to charity. It's MinaPodLive.com to get tickets for details. We got merch. I'll be excited to meet you, hang out a little bit. So yeah, Tom.

Tell people who's going to be there too because you're geeking out for this is football family for you Yeah, a couple of my favorite pods slash friends will be there with me Greg Rosenthal and Jordan or rig from NFL Daley and then my friends who are Eagles fans Chris So we'll see how this goes Chris Ryan and Andy Greenwald Greenwald pardon me from the ringer goes, Chris Ryan and Andy Greenwald, pardon me, from The Ringer, 100% of proceeds go to wildfire relief here in Los Angeles. I want to play for you here before you get out of here and I will remind people again that the Mina Kimes Show featuring Lenny is a very popular podcast where you can get a ton of football information and other things because she doesn't always geek out, though

mostly geeks out on football. Let's play for her this sound and get her thinking on this that's what this is about no no no I can't watch it do ball how do we do this together It's creepy. She feels bad. It's so hard to watch. I think he's gonna be a good coach but yeah that's it's a tough watch. Doo ball. Oh stop it. Doo ball. No, no, no. It is creepy. Willys. Hey there wellness warriors. If you're like me you've given a lot of thought to how to improve your health and wellness routine this year. I've started stretching more, do a little mindfulness and meditation every day, try to clear my mind, make my body feel right.

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