The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 2: Dan Is Thankful (feat. Jemele Hill)

Episode Date: November 26, 2025

"I'm not ignoring them, I'm just not answering them." Dan gets sensual during a thank you note to the audience, Zas eats his Thanksgiving meal like a maniac, and Mike Ryan's dad placed an insane or...der at a restaurant. Then, Jemele Hill is here to talk Detroit sports, Jackie Chan, and help us weigh in on Shedeur Sanders. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:34 That's followed by the final night of the Emirates Cup NBA group play and a doubleheader starting with the Bucks and Knicks at 7 p.m. And the Mavericks and Lakers at 10 p.m. What a nightcap game that is. But the whole day starts with the return of the Capital One Skins game as four elite PGA golfers face off with $4 million on the line. Black Friday game day tees off with Capital One Skins game at 9 a.m. Eastern before the Big Bears Eagles game at 3 p.m. and it culminates with a double dose of
Starting point is 00:01:59 Emeritus NBA Cup action featuring Bucks at 7 p.m. and Mavs Lakers at 10 p.m. Only on Prime. This is the Dan Levator show with the Stucat's podcast. Haven't had her perspective around here in too long. Do not like going months without speaking to her. You can watch new episodes of her podcast Politics live on her YouTube channel.
Starting point is 00:02:24 Jamel Hill, she's also a contributing writer for the Atlantic. Any thoughts? Football Thanksgiving, Detroit Thanksgiving, as a person who has her allegiances to Detroit and the end of the Dan Campbell era here, because I don't believe we're all looking at the same team we were looking at last year. Welcome, Jamel, and what are your thoughts about Detroit playing on Thanksgiving and not totally being an afterthought and laughing stock? And really, being host to the country before we get to the Super Bowl, before the games that have the real giant entertainment value? Well, there's a welcome change, and certainly my husband is very happy being a diehard
Starting point is 00:03:02 life, lion's fan his whole life. But, you know, one thing about this team is, like, it's matching, and a lot of people probably aren't aware of the tremendous momentum that's happening in Detroit just as a city overall. I mean, Detroit just elected its first female mayor's first black female mayor to be specific. And just a lot of great things are happening in the city. They're getting a new five-star hotel. I mean, everything that I'm seeing happening in the city and the neighborhoods is, it's great that it's happening in conjunction with the team that has probably caused the most misery
Starting point is 00:03:36 for everyone in the state is also doing well. And I've said this repeatedly for people who have, you know, just kind of a passing interest in Detroit is like, yeah, I know we're known for Hockey Town. Yes, we know the Pistons have won in championships. The Red Wings certainly had a very dominant run that everybody. witness, but the lions are the team of the state. And if they were to ever go to a Super Bowl, it would by far be the biggest story in Detroit sports history, maybe the biggest story in Michigan history, period. So to have all these wonderful things happening at once and for the Lions to
Starting point is 00:04:11 actually be treated with respect on Thanksgiving, what can I say? It's just like, Mama, we made it moment for the entire city. Can you tell me because I haven't, I have not been back to Detroit since they started what was a sports-inspired revitalization of downtown that began with the baseball team, right? It wasn't even like what you're talking about when you say Detroit feels like it's back. Detroit's been pushed around for a long time. Yeah, it has. Listen, Detroit was a laughing stock, especially when we were going through the recession in sort of the early 2000s. And people naturally made note of the fact that you could at that point buy a home in Detroit for $1,000. They were listing homes.
Starting point is 00:04:52 in Detroit on Craigslist. Like, that's how bad it was. Detroit was in bankruptcy. Financially, it just wasn't a whole lot of investment happening there. And it had been a longstanding sort of problem that Detroit only being recognized nationally about our crime rate and about things that were not very positive, you know. And so, like, people see the movie Robocop, the original Robocop. I think they may have remade it or whatever, but they see.
Starting point is 00:05:22 They see Robocop and they think that's Detroit. I mean, I don't even think Robocop was actually filmed in Detroit, but it's based in Detroit. The story is, but that's how people came to think of Detroit. It's just this barren, crime-ridden hellscape that didn't deserve anything. And so it is with a lot of pride that I see Detroit being embraced now and people understanding that what's happening there is not a fluke. We have been through some stops and starts before. Listen to that, Detroit has a Gucci store downtown.
Starting point is 00:05:50 I never thought I would see that, all right? When I was growing up, there were no major department stores in downtown Detroit. And now there's a Gucci store and an Apple store and a 50 store. And so while some of this also signals a gentrification that can be create and call some uncomfortable questions, I think I'm generally more positive about saying it because I do see that growth spreading out to other parts of the city. Because that's where you want to see. You want to see the neighborhoods come up if there's a revitalization downtown. But downtown is cracking.
Starting point is 00:06:20 Detroit is the place. But did it start with sports? No, not really. I mean, I think there was a lot of investment things that were happening downtown. But to your point, it's like the Tigers being good, like when your baseball team is good, that is a different type of renaissance that the city will see because you have more opportunities to be in that area. You know, you're talking about 160, you know, two game schedule. You got 80 home games.
Starting point is 00:06:43 So that's 80 opportunities for people to be downtown as opposed to, say, the lions who are playing eight or nine home games and then that's it. or even the Pistons who are playing like, you know, 40-something games. And that renaissance, that turnaround only happened in the last two years. But I think really what started, all of it, was just people understanding the business opportunity. Detroit has a beautiful riverfront that borders Canada. Like, we can get to Canada in 10 minutes. And so that property has always been bought up. But it started with the investment from Dan Gilbert, from Mike Illich, from a lot of really big business leaders that are
Starting point is 00:07:20 in the Detroit community, and it's spun into what we see now. And now that the sports teams are good, it's like it's all kind of clicking together finally at the same time. How does Detroit compare care about the Pistons right now compared to the Lions? I mean, listen, people are obsessed with the Pistons, but I mean, the Lions are kind of the number one team in town. I mean, because again, that's a town, that's a team the whole state loves, right, is the Lions.
Starting point is 00:07:45 And I think because the futility has been so much longer, with the Lions, that them being good is always going to be the number one story. The Pistons is an incredible story, especially seeing where the Pistons were just three years ago. And to see where they are now, the city has certainly embraced Kay Cunningham hard, this whole team, you know, the franchise, it feels like, it still feels like they're a player away. But the way that they're playing now, I mean, I think they still, at this point, may still have the second best record in the East or in the league.
Starting point is 00:08:20 a player away in this east they're not a player not in this east you're right you're not you're right not in this east are they a player away but when you just started thinking about like can they win a world championship i think they're a player away from that um but nevertheless like to your point this is it's it's this is the best sports feeling i've ever seen detroit have that's so sustained right it's like the pistons are good the lions are good i know the you know the red wings are kind of in and out there. But to have those two teams, the two most popular, probably sports in the state, be good at the same time. And tigers and all of them young. And the tigers, yes, like the tigers being good this year. Like, it is, this is a level of positivity around Detroit sports I haven't seen
Starting point is 00:09:06 in a really long time. What are we to do with the Shador Sanders start? No Cleveland Brown's first time starting quarterback had won a game since 1995, 17 straight starts that a first time quarterback and made a start without winning before Shador Sanders. What did you do with that result? Okay. So one, I said last week on my YouTube show that you mentioned Politics Live, I was like, Shador Sanders has the opportunity to do the funniest thing in the world, but also to do something that's very common and known to Browns fans, which is to make the Browns look stupid. And I think he kind of did that in the sense of we know about
Starting point is 00:09:41 how he hasn't been developed under Kevin Stefansky. And, you know, Dan, this Sodor Sanders, as you know, there's always an athlete or a couple of athletes in sports that generate a level of polarization that sometimes is baffling to understand is he is in that space of like every time I talk about him, I have to think very carefully about what I'm saying because if I don't praise him enough, then I'm a race traitor. If I praise him too much, then I'm a bunch of other racist names as well. so it's like it's this weird spot that he's in and me even saying that like yeah he got treated like a fifth round pick people were mad about that like i was saying something that you know that some
Starting point is 00:10:25 people labeled me a sellout for saying that i was like no he got treated that way like i don't think kevin's defansky and again people hated when i said there's like i don't think he's trying to sabotage him well wait but what's happening here are you telling me that he's supposed to be such a symbol for black excellence as the son of dion sanders and as they came up through a program that, like, was a thicket of racism, what it is that they were doing that last year in Colorado. You think that he's so embraced by black people that to criticize him as a black person is something you have to be careful about?
Starting point is 00:10:59 Yeah, I do. I mean, look, Shador Sanders is the black community's nephew. Like, everybody has adopted him, okay? And so you have to be really careful about what you say. because just in what I consider to be just mild critiques, Dan, it's like I have been labeled a sellout and being anti-black and I'm disappointed you. I don't got all the speeches.
Starting point is 00:11:22 I'm like, because I said it's not a, I don't believe that there's some league-wide conspiracy to keep this kid down. If anything, he makes the NFL money. I mean, I can't think of a fiprow pick whose jersey sales go off like his. Like, there's a lot of reasons why the NFL would want should. Doer Sanders in the lead. And because there are a lot of people who have seen, listen, I get why people are willing to believe in the conspiracy theory based of what we've seen before. We saw Colin Kaepernick get blackballed. You know, the story came out about Lamar Jackson
Starting point is 00:11:55 and about how other teams were trying to sabotage his negotiations. So I'm not saying NFL conspiracies don't happen and aren't true. I just didn't see it with this particular player. And whenever I bring that up, I get where they just don't want to see a confident black man that They hate his father and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, guys, I need y'all to get a little more emotionally uninvested in this. But there's no question because of his father and how much he is beloved, just period, by football fans. And for a lot of black people, they look at Dion, they look at the relationship that he has with his sons. And they feel like this is such a positive example of a black fatherhood, of black fatherhood that they feel very,
Starting point is 00:12:35 understandably, a lot of our community feels very protective over Dion and Shadour Sanders. So, yes, I do have to watch what I say, and I have to make sure I'm being thoughtful and careful because a lot of people are very, a lot of my people are very emotionally invested in his success. Hey, everyone, it's Jeremy here, and I want to talk to you about Black Friday Game Day, because Black Friday Game Day is coming to crime with an epic day of live sports. Black Friday football is back with the Chicago Bears taking on the Philadelphia Eagles at 3 p.m. Eastern. that's followed by an Emirates NBA Cup double header. Bucks Nix at 7 p.m. and Mavs Lakers at 10 p.m. And the whole day starts with the Capital One Skins game as four elite PGA golfers meet with $4 million on the line.
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Starting point is 00:15:10 like you're right there in the action. Sports are meant to be watched live, and you can do that with Fox One. Fox One, we live for live, streaming now. Don Lebatard. Are the stakes that high that if Angel Reese loses to Caitlin Clark, you need to start over again as a race? Stugats. I don't know that we have to necessarily start over, but it might have to be, it was will be a black people's meeting, an important one that will be called the next day, where we might have to put some things on the agenda and get it on the table. This is the Dan Levitar show with the Stugats.
Starting point is 00:15:48 You can't just say it was the Raiders? You said that. I didn't. Okay, so it can't just be the thing. Oh, I'll put that on you in the day. Okay, it's funny, though. I don't see you afraid of anything, though. Like the part that I get, I understand, I guess I can't possibly understand, but from where I am, I can understand a little bit how you find this one volatile, but it's silly. I can't believe she said it.
Starting point is 00:16:15 She said it. She said it. Had a feeling this was going on. And Jamel just said it's going on. But Jamel is fact-based. So when she comes over here and-I knew this was a thing. I knew that's what was happening. That another just Josina tweets make all the sense in the world.
Starting point is 00:16:29 Jamel cop to it. Don't forget what happened here today. I can't believe that. It is a conspiracy. This is the hardest. Jamel just said it. That the Kaepernick thing is so stupid that, of course, it could morph and then it would do this to Shador, too, because they got to find a better quarterback to do this for.
Starting point is 00:16:45 I'm just saying. We can't be going down with Shador. It's like, listen, though, I want people to understand this is I thought Shadur would get his opportunity because it's Cleveland. They haven't developed a quarterback like literally never, okay? Like, we know what they have done at that position, and it's ugly, it's brutal, right? The fact that he was able to already have that historic marker of being the first Browns quarterback since, you know, I was in, I was leaving high school to actually, like, win their debut start. I mean, this is, this is who the Browns have always been.
Starting point is 00:17:21 And I think that there has been so many racial conversations about Chodor Sanders without them being explicitly racial. And yeah, like, I wouldn't say that I'm afraid to say my honest opinion of Shador Sanders. I believe I'm given that. What I am saying is that I'm more careful with my words because I realize for a lot of, a lot of black people are projecting things onto this situation that are not even part of the conversation. And so I'm able to say, like, oh, y'all too emotionally invested. Like, I'm going to let y'all head as well, y'all too emotionally invested. That's why I always defended Andy Dalton.
Starting point is 00:17:57 Let's move on to a pop culture subject. that I wanted to ask you about, the idea that Trump would be soliciting Larry Ellison to bring back Rush Hour, the 90s comedy Rush Hour, it's 90s, right? Chris Tucker and Jackie Chan, is that not late 80s, that's 90s, correct? No, it's 90s. Did you say late 80s? Yeah, well, okay, forgiveness, 30 years ago, not 40 years ago. What are your thoughts here on Trump trying to revitalize this franchise? Is he using the Paramount Plus? Is he using the license to try and revitalize it.
Starting point is 00:18:30 It was 98, closer to 20 years ago and then 30 or certainly 40. Okay. I mean, I didn't realize that there was, it's so odd that this would be the fight that he sort of chooses. And apparently from the article that I read is that apparently he's been offering his creative thoughts on a lot of different film projects and things he wants to bring back. Like Blasport was one he mentioned like he wants to bring back those type of movies and he thinks that they should do that.
Starting point is 00:18:56 And to be honest, Dan, like normally this would be something that I would used to clown the president about. But honestly, I'd rather him sort of govern over film than govern over the other things he's governing on. So, like, fine, be busy with that. Maybe you will make it less hell on the rest of us in every other area
Starting point is 00:19:13 if you get your new rush hour. If a new rush hour, if rush hour four is what it takes to get this man off our neck in other ways, let's do it. Let's bring back an old-ass Jackie Chan. Chris Tucker, let's run it back one more time to make the president happy. How old is Jackie Chan?
Starting point is 00:19:27 Because it's old-ass Chris Tucker, too, No, she wouldn't do that. Got to be 60. But no, Jackie Chan's got to be older. He's not as old as Jackie Chan, though. Older than 71-year-old Jackie Chan. Really? 71.
Starting point is 00:19:39 He could pull it off, Dan. He could pull it off. He could pull it off. Yeah, he came back for Karate Kid Legends, right? Wasn't he, wasn't Jackie Chan in that? Nobody watched that movie. We were talking about. Okay.
Starting point is 00:19:49 All right. Fine. Okay. I feel like he's still got a few more stunts in him. So bring back Rush Hour for. Put it on the polls at Levitard Show. Does Jackie Chan at 71 still have a few more stunts? in him. I never
Starting point is 00:20:01 seen Rush Hour. Oh, my God. Scott Cruz is 60 and he's still like hanging on the side of airplane. Why can't Jackie Chan do this? I think that we retired Liam Neeson last week because he's 73 and Odin Kirk is now doing action films. That's fine. We'll allow it.
Starting point is 00:20:17 I didn't feel very good the other day. It's actually stuck with me for about 10 days. I'm not even kidding. I can be hard on myself about these things. I did not like the way me and our show talked about the Stephen A. Smith Michelle Beatle, Kerry Champion, and I'm going to say you, but I really don't remember Stephen A. Smith ever going after you and Kerry Champion. I do know that he gets critiqued for never having anything
Starting point is 00:20:41 for Michelle Beatle and then coming after with some more intensity. Black people, I know it's a critique that he gets a lot. I know it's a critique you get a lot that whenever you're talking about ESPN things or anything that's just critical analysis, hater, bitter, whatever, it's the same thing that I get. But how did you get ensnared in that? Because from what I've ever seen publicly between you and Stephen A. Smith, he respects your journalist's credentials too much to ever have anything bad to say about you. Well, I mean, I got insnared in it. And I'm not saying this to call her out, but just to give people the origin story of this, is because Carrie brought my name up when she did the video addressing the fact that Stephen A. has never responded to
Starting point is 00:21:24 Michelle Bito with the same level of harshness that he has responded to some of the black folks, some of which were just offering a critique of him. Obviously, a lot of people pointed to what he had to say about Jasmine Crockett, which I also was disappointed in like a lot of other people. And so Cary's, the base of her criticism was really about that, about the unevenness of she felt like his critique between what he said about Serena Williams, what he said about Michelle Obama, Jasmine Crockett. People are sensing a thing.
Starting point is 00:21:52 And I definitely understand what that's like, hell, we just had a little. conversation about Shador Sanders and how I realize I got to be careful and how I talk about them because of how possessive and protective that a lot of people in our community feel about them. And so when you're Stephen A or me or anybody that's in the sports media space, it's like the majority of athletes we talk about are going to be black. We're going to say more positive things about black athletes than we do about them than we do negative. But it's the negative ones that tend to sting a little more. And so with that said, I mean, I thought what Carrie said was a fair critique.
Starting point is 00:22:26 And she brought me into it by talking about how Stephen A has come for us. And really what, and I don't want to speak for her, even though that's one of my closest friends. But I think what she was talking about was some of the things more she experienced behind the scenes on first take. And where she felt like there was a lot of times that Stephen A was not as supportive as he said. And as her friend and being there at ESPN when she was on the show, that's how our friendship
Starting point is 00:22:52 blossom and seeing what she went through on a daily basis being between Skip and Stephen A, not just on TV, but behind the scenes, like literally having to navigate both of their very big personalities. It was tough. And she was very much, there was a lot of professional experiences that she had that were not great. And so I think she was more or less speaking to that. Now, Stephen A and I have gotten into it a little bit back and forth on social media. He's had some opinions of Colin Kaepernick that I thought were thoughtless and a little inaccurate. And I made that publicly known. It was about addressing his opinion.
Starting point is 00:23:32 He had his thing or so to say about me. He suggested that next time I call him or that I do call him if I have a critique. I did call him after we had that exchange on social media. And he's a busy man. He didn't answer. I texted him. Never heard back from him. It's fine.
Starting point is 00:23:48 I don't expect even eight doesn't owe me an answer. but since he brought up the fact that I should call him, I actually did it, and he didn't respond. I think a lot of people think that I have some negative opinion of Stephen A. I don't. I think he's done remarkable, he's had a remarkable professional career. And I think him as a black man being the face of ESPN that is really encouraging for younger black journalists who are aspiring to be in these positions of authority and ownership. and he's been able to give them an example of, like, what's possible. And he's opened up, you know, a lot of doors for people. But the part that sometimes made me cringe about him is that especially not only
Starting point is 00:24:31 sensing the uneven critiques that we talked about from a racial standpoint, but also it just felt like sometimes when he's discussing women, especially black women, And he gets very, he puts a lot of cap going on in terms of how he built our careers. Like I've heard him refer to building my career before. And I just think that was weird of him to say that. Certainly I was able to be on a show, quite frankly, which I greatly appreciated it. But when I was on quite frankly, I was already talking to ESPN about being at ESPN. And so he's just taking this weird ownership of my career that, you know, just
Starting point is 00:25:12 makes me cringe a little bit and he's done it with Monica McNutt and he's done it with Carrie as he did it and it's like why you why you putting a hundred on 10 it's like okay if we you don't need to do that and so I think it's it's kind of unbecoming but I I have no animosity for Stephen A I don't have any beef with Stephen A but I hope that he's able to accept some of the critiques that people have of them because I think some of them are fair Spolitics is the name of her podcast you could catch it on her YouTube channel We, of course, at Metal Arc Media, discovered Jamel Hill. She would not have had a success without Metal Radio.
Starting point is 00:25:47 Would have never made it here, Dan. Thank you for being on with us, and thank you for allowing us to discover you. We appreciate it. Appreciate it. Don Lebertard. It sounds to me like everybody could use a hug, because a hug is always the right size. Stugats. All I have put in my body today is three cups of coffee and an entire cup of honey.
Starting point is 00:26:10 Don't let them fully. you, he said in the break that he's jittery. This is the Dan Levitar show with the Stugats. Deep fry my turkeys. It's done with the same oil for the last five years. So it's full of seasoning. It has the perfect seasoning, perfect everything with it. And it's a 72-hour process, okay,
Starting point is 00:26:30 and where it goes into a brine, it's homemade. Then, it's justine at brine for about two days. And then I take him out. Then I inject it. You know, with a homemade. projectable marinade and then it sits for another 24 hours wrapped in the refrigerator and all the the marinade is getting into the joints the juices and it's really getting into the the breast and the thigh and so forth and
Starting point is 00:26:58 then I take it out that morning on Thanksgiving and I dip it in the hot oil and then it's and then it's delicious and it's going just like that you know I mean I can cut it with a plastic butter knife is so tender you know so it I've been doing that for the last almost 20 years. Yeah, that's pornographic. And I don't think that Chris Cody just realizes how terrible his judgment has to be for me not to know when that clip is going to end. And Chris Cody's last words to me so that I don't hear the ending of it
Starting point is 00:27:29 are him just saying to me privately, I'm hard right now. That was uncalled for. Well, it just seems like bad judgment. It seemed pretty called for. And also understandable. And I think after having heard that, All of our mouths are watering. And I do want to say at a time of great gratitude, because Thanksgiving is that for me every year.
Starting point is 00:27:49 My parents, their favorite holiday was 120 people over at the house for Thanksgiving because it's specifically such a time of gratitude. I want to tell all of you who work with us here at Metal Arc over the last five years of great difficulties and great success because we're on the other side of it. Numbers are great. We are growing in a way that is hard to believe, honestly, in the modern streaming media because people believe in this thing. So I wanted to thank the listeners for sporting us the way they do. Oh, you want to do this centrally? You want to give me some central music for my gratitude? I just like this line.
Starting point is 00:28:22 I'm glad you broke that up. Okay. Thank you, Chris. Good timing by you. You're really killing it today in a number of different ways. You've mailed it in just like me and Jessica. It's been a bad day for you. But I did want to thank both the audience.
Starting point is 00:28:37 and you guys at this time of year because the workload around here has been crazy and there's been a lot of change and the show's in a good place. It's in a wildly successful place. And so I'm really happy that we've endured the last five years together to get to this point. And I'm grateful for it. And I bring all of this up as I bring up my father because my father tricked me. I'm not even going to say trick me. Just for an 82 year old man, he's still sharp funny. And the other day I accused him of ignoring my texts. And he looked. looks at me because I'm like dad what are you doing like you're in retirement you're not doing anything he's like I'm not ignoring them I'm just not answering them that's a bar I get them
Starting point is 00:29:19 but he let the I'm not ignoring them stay and I'm like like I didn't understand what he was saying like he's not replying to me and he's like no I've seen them I'm just not answering you yeah I had this very same conversation with my dad she was on the other foot though right you were mean to your father you a bit I mean but you know he means well I took him to highlight on Friday. Well, I wanted to say to you guys in an area of gratitude as it relates to the cyclones, I'm proud of the way that you guys have owned that team. Something alive in South Florida that is meaningful that isn't in a lot of other places in the country.
Starting point is 00:29:52 The cyclones being in first place and you guys caring about ownership of that team, you've shown great pride in owning that team. We do, and we're very proud of this team. We've got two more weeks until the playoffs, and hopefully this regular season is predictive. to how that goes for us, but I want to talk to you about spending time with my dad at the fronton. We met at the brand new prefab construction outback that was built in about two days right across the street. And my dad had one of the more psychotic orders ever. And he left me
Starting point is 00:30:20 with this order. He got up to go to the bathroom. Have you ever been with someone that did this? He asked for the eight-ounce fillet. Okay, cool. Hell yeah. I had to assume what the temperature was, but I did a good job with that, but he was like, son, this is very important. I want two sides. I want a sweet potato. Gotcha. And then I want a baked potato. I want the baked potato, no salt. And again, all the fixings, all of them on the side. He went sweet potato.
Starting point is 00:30:47 No salt is crazy. He went sweet potato and baked potato as a sides. I'd never seen that before. I'm not, I'm, before I decide whether or not this is weird, because it felt weird and like the waiter looked at me like strangely. And I had to make this order for him. I'm like, my dad's weird. Have you ever seen anybody do that?
Starting point is 00:31:05 I have not, but double card. Double carbs is aggressive and no vegetable is aggressive, but Zazzo, do you think Zazlo's way of eating Thanksgiving is weird? Because Zaz, I think, thinks it's weird, and I'm not sure how weird it is. Zaz is very compartment about how he eats his Thanksgiving food. Nothing is to mix with anything else except for the gravy. Everything else stays apart, and he eats them in little compartment.
Starting point is 00:31:31 Well, the gravy has to mix with something, otherwise it's soup. I'm not having gravy by itself. I'll admit something I've done. I've done, I think at Outback, specifically, I don't know if we named names before. I've done baked potato. I love a baked potato with my steak, but then I'm also going mac and cheese. So those are two carbs. That's a play on, absolutely play on.
Starting point is 00:31:48 That's a great job. That is indeed the Outback that was built in two days. It was astonishing. But for Thanksgiving, I don't mix any of the foods. I don't put them on top of each other. They don't have 17 plates around you. You don't like a spoon with a little potato and little corn. And I don't dip, like, in both.
Starting point is 00:32:03 I don't do like, here's some stuffing. And you're not living. You are not living. You don't do cranberry? Oh, I don't eat cranberry. What? I don't eat cranberry sauce. All right, so I'm a late convert.
Starting point is 00:32:12 I used to avoid this. Like, why would I want this fruit paste? I got to tell you, it does a little sweet, a little sweetness at the very. I've never even had it before, but I know I don't like it. You can't do that. You do this with Dodgeball. You're close-minded this way. I used to be the same way.
Starting point is 00:32:25 I used to be so, what is this? I don't like it. It's so gelatinous. You open up the can and it just like plops right out. No, I don't need that. Like a used condom. I hate that. I know what I like. I know what I like and I don't like that. How many plates do you have
Starting point is 00:32:38 during Thanksgiving? I need to know, because you're sitting there basically with eight different plates around you. No, I got one big plate. No, you don't have one big plate. You just have corn, like a bite with just corn? Yeah, I don't mix. That's right. Use condom. Happy Thanksgiving. Don't do that. Okay, you've got five sounds there I want to hear and one of them was not me looking into the 49ers
Starting point is 00:32:56 suites and seeing that Fred Warner and Joey Bose are heard, but there's still eight and four. Sorry, yes. Joey Bosa is a bill now. My fault. You called him Billy Bosa? Did I call him Billy Bosa? No, no, he called him Joey Bosa twice. All right, cool. I thought I heard Billy Bosa, which actually makes sense in a good way to distinguish who is who. Billy Bosa, he is from that.
Starting point is 00:33:14 Thank you, guys. I've done this. I called Brandon Cook's, Brandon Cook. The old guy things that happen to me are that I take the whole Bosa family. Their father was a bust with their dolphins. Two brothers are in the NFL sacking people. I didn't even get this week to a great moment from last week, which was J.J. Watt, watching his brother, break his sout record, saying with a strip sack, he's like, well, I guess if you're going to break my record, that's the way to do it. Strip sack touchdown. T.J. Watt. Like, J.J. Watt calling that two brothers being able to be at the height of that sport and T.J. Watt somehow being better at sacks than JJ Watt. The two brothers are the best we've ever seen at strip sacking the quarterback and
Starting point is 00:33:55 taking it to the house. It's crazy. And they weren't even like highly touted prospects. This family just birthed the two greatest to ever do that. Their father, father was bust with their dolphins. The two of them, I confuse them. The boasas are great, and the Watts are even better. So, how many different sounds of mine do you have back there to make fun of me so that we could just spill all of this for Thanksgiving? Remember when you said Danny Amandola or whatever you said? Damian Amandola, the famous Damian, local legend, Damian Amandola. Damian Amindola. Daimian Amindola. Mike Inglis, a South Florida legend? Yes.
Starting point is 00:34:34 Greg Cody, a South Florida legend? Yes. That didn't even hurt you to say. Dave Van Horn, a South Florida legend? No. He's a Hall of Fame. Montreal legend. Whoa.
Starting point is 00:34:45 Montreal. Hello. Dave Van Horn is not a legend? He's a Montreal legend. Steve White. No. He owes me money. He owes you money?
Starting point is 00:34:57 You too? Of course. How much money does he owe you? I mean, enough that I went to the bank. bank with a check to cash it, and they told me there's no money in that account. It's embarrassing. Suck a move. Radio in the 90s, baby.
Starting point is 00:35:13 So you had mid-2000s. Balls rates you a personal check. So did we! No money in the account. That was my favorite sound of the week right there. Mike being totally reasonable. This is about somebody else. Level-headed.
Starting point is 00:35:26 Listen, just so that you have the context for this, this is Mike shrill and how much worse it's going to get over the last month. This right here is Mike very reasonably saying of Notre Dame's record, well, they were just starting. There was a new coordinator. They had a new coordinator. So did we. Just wildly defensive. So did we.
Starting point is 00:35:50 I've been very level-headed today. So did we. I have not caped up for Miami. Again, I just focused with chuckle-f-fuck on the broadcast. So did we. I did not once today. I made it my mission. I am not going to lobby.
Starting point is 00:36:03 for Miami as it pertains to the CFP rankings. Have you heard a single complaint about the obvious? No, you have not. So did we! I will not do that on this show, because I had a new bold strategy, Dan. I was going to let Jeremy talk. And the results are incredible. I think I've won the audience over by just him speaking.
Starting point is 00:36:22 Jeremy disagrees with just about everything you've said and has eaten it for two days. But I found the one guy that is somehow more unlikable delivering college football takes than I am on the show. So did we! I wonder how that happened. I mean, what? I was really likable until this place. Until your brother showed up. He's George Harrison.
Starting point is 00:36:41 How much did you resent how the audience took to him? How they took to him, how you took to him. Yeah. You guys were so nice. I saw so many comments. Jeremy's crushing it today. Jeremy's in the back just like, this is bullshit. It took me seven months to get approval from this.
Starting point is 00:36:55 I was fed him. I was a show. Do you know how good a show has to be in order for what I remember? from that, not being any of that, right? Because that was charming. You've got George Harrison being vastly more likable in costume than his brother. Thanks. Like just net. Well, but this is, has this been a lifelong affliction? Because while you're someone who's, I imagine, popular with all of your friends, I imagine he's probably been more popular. He is funnier, cooler, cooler, better looking, more normal. He was like my brother. My brother was always those
Starting point is 00:37:27 things. Everybody likes him. What does more normal mean? I don't know about that one. But in the middle of that, we really have let Greg Cody skate on this. Like, his complete torpedoing. Torpedoing. I talked to him at dinner about it last night with my family. Is this like a- Kicking my wife to buy in on it. I'm trying to get inside his head a little bit.
Starting point is 00:37:50 He talked to George thinking that it was actually Jeremy Teshe when it was Jeremy's brother, Jason. I'm telling you, what happened there was my dad didn't know he was the only one being fooled. so he kind of like thought you guys were all being fool too so he kind of just like I'm going to lay out here I disagree I believe the cycle analysis I would do of your father is he's so self-involved that he doesn't care enough to notice whether it's Jeremy or someone else talking because it's just another voice getting in the way of when he has to talk and so when Jeremy also popped up he wasn't able to register everything that was happening there and all we were do was bullying an old man part of it was you know I've had some of these conversations lately I think it was an older guy like, you think I have dementia, don't you? I don't. Yeah. I don't. I know everything.
Starting point is 00:38:37 Yeah. No, I know what happened there. I'm not impressed because I'm not whip with it. Like, quick as a whip. You can't fool me. So annoying. Zadzlo, when I talked about it beforehand with Zaslo, Zaslo, because I was worried about it. And Zazlo, Zazlo says to me, but it'll also be funny if he has no reaction.
Starting point is 00:38:56 Right. But him having no reaction is the worst of all possible funny that could have. I could have been there. I watched the social video we put out now and I get angry because I'm just like, that's the payoff. Look at this buildup that we had. It would have been incredible. I'm not asking be Simon Cowell when someone a magician does a trick on stage. But, you know, give me something.
Starting point is 00:39:15 Here's the thing, though, that I've said to a number of people recently who have been asking me for show secrets behind their show. The people who get the show the way that they love the show the best that I was trying to articulate gratitude for before Chris Cody sabotaged me earlier. And I dip it. Those people look at Greg Cody and say to me, Marvel in the street, they're like, he still doesn't really know you guys are doing show around him. Most genuine character we have. Like, he's still, so you have to eat some of the places where he betrays you because he forgets he's doing the show. He's just starring in his own play all the time. Like, it's one of the weirdest characters.
Starting point is 00:39:52 The play where he's always the star in his mind. It's one of the weirdest characters in the history of sports in this market. And it's why Zazel has to eat it and say Greg Coe. he's a legend, a South Florida legend, unlike chuckle. It's the holidays and the 50th anniversary of Miller Light. Holidays are all about gathering around with family and friends, so why don't you bring out a cornucopia of that beautiful white can Miller Light or draft, whatever it is.
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