The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 2: Dan Le Batard > Moo Deng

Episode Date: October 8, 2024

Greg Cote is, once again, furious at his son and Dan. Then, dueling football Stats of the Day before Ron Magill joins the show to discuss Moo Dang, Dan Le Batard getting "whored out," and ducks on the pond. Then, Jeremy does everything he can to get the crew interested in an at-bat from yesterday's Tigers-Guardians game, but it only gets Stu and Greg intrigued when we talk about players from 50 years ago. Plus, was Shams always the natural replacement for Woj? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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We are getting to Ron McGill in a second, but go ahead, Greg, continue what it is that you were saying with the safety of knowing you're not going to get hard networked out again. Yeah, no I'm not going to do that and it's so facetious in hitting the wrong note with me when you guys say we got them again, we apologize, oh it's never gonna happen again. It's ridiculous. I mean, I could go on and on about why this is, this is getting very tiresome to me. You sound emotional. Well, it's disrespectful.

It's super disrespectful. And I literally can't win because I'm looking at the clock and I'm timing what I'm saying to be done before the clock expires. You're always winning. Just know that. Yeah, but he's doing what we've told him to do when he's still getting clipped. That's what he's upset about. Yeah, and it doesn't feel like a win to me, believe me.

It's a tough club to be a part of, isn't it? It is sometimes. My favorite thing is when you're set up on this show to look bad and then afterwards everyone tells you, that was a win. Yeah, okay. Classic Levitard show. 20 years ago. Team Greg, team Greg, team Greg. He's not buying it guys. I mean you know Dan's very sorry it happened until the

next time and then he'll be sorry again. I wasn't sorry that time actually I wasn't in any way sorry that time in fact Chris asked me that time nor did I apologize to you during the break I told you what happened during the break which is your son said to me should I and I initially said no don't and then I'm like yeah go ahead and so I wasn't sorry in any way about that time and I didn't apologize to you that time I often apologize to you and you always win around here you're our most popular creature I told them both not to do it for what it's worth right this is the other thing that happened during the break that I was laughing about that stugots is

Throughout the entirety of the break as your father is steaming stugots is like I told them both not to do that when he Didn't say such a word not us not a not a syllable just a straight lie in your father's face He said it in my ear actually oh wrong button. Sorry gave me the opposite You gave me the look of like oh, we're close to the hard network out I did no such thing. Yeah. Oh That's funny That's lying is always Total insincerity of Stu gots is what's funny. We're gonna get to Ron McGill in a second But let's play the stat of the day music real quick, please start of the day start of the day

It is here start of the day music real quick, please. Start of the day, start of the day, and this is the start of the day. Start of the day, start of the day, and this is the start of the day. Start of the day, start of the day, and this is the start of the day. Start of the day, start of the day, and this is the start of the day.

Joe Burrow is second in the NFL in quarterback rating with a rating of 113.6. He trails only Joe Flacco. That's pretty good. I've got one here from Benjamin Solak. Since the start of the 2021 season, you've got one team that is first in points per drive on defense, first in EPA per play on defense, and third in success rate on defense, first in EPA per play on defense, and third in success rate on defense. That is Robert Salla's New York Jets.

Really great at defense, can't solve their quarterback problem. They're not Salas anymore. That is correct. RFK Junior's now the interim head coach. Hmm. Can you guys get for me please that photo that I put in the slack of RFK Jr.

I want to put it on the screen and I want to ask a question whenever it is that you get that RFK photo. But Ron McGill is joining us now. I don't know Ron if you are making any sort of preparations for what it is that's happening in South Florida with this storm. You're certainly a veteran of many of them. Can you tell us where it is that that you are on everything that's happening presently with the weather in South Florida and what's approaching? Yeah well we're close to a close today we'll be close tomorrow. Bottom line is several groups of

animals can't go out on the habitat simply because the water level is so high that the moats have risen, you know, and theoretically you let a lion out it could swim across and get out. So a lot of those animals are going to be maintained within their night enclosures until this water at the very least recedes. With that said, you know, we're hoping that we get nothing more than, you know, more rain and a little bit of wind, certainly not what the people are dreading in the central western part of the state. I feel for them having been through Andrew myself,

having been through Wilma and Irma, some serious storms that we've had the effect down here. I know what that's like. And I, you know, watching, just watching the images of people trying to get gas, getting the sandbags, evacuating, to me it's a PSD thing. And having it come within two weeks of Helene,

where people still have nothing but trash loaded up in front of their homes, that are, you know, unless it's a PSD thing. And having it come within two weeks of Helene, where people still have nothing but trash loaded up in front of their homes, unless it's picked up, it's gonna become another added projectile, another added headache. Man, it's a nightmare. It's a nightmare. Just to pivot slightly, Ron, I'm shocked because apparently we haven't talked about Mu Dang, the mini hippo with you yet.

And this was a sort of like internet phenomenon over the past month, the mini hippo with you yet. And this was a sort of like internet phenomenon over the past month, this mini hippo that lives in Thailand, I believe. He was very tiny and shiny and sort of wet looking and very cute. And there's lots of videos of him eating and enjoying water. They parodied him on SNL the other night.

What can you tell us about this little mini hippo and why he's taken the world by storm? Well, first of all, he's not a mini hippo. He's a pygmy hippo, which is exactly what Dan Leventard is here at the zoo. And when Dan Leventard was born here at the zoo, I venture to say he was just as cute, if not cuter. Dan Leventard is just, but we didn't basically

whore him out like what they're doing with Mudoudang. We gave him a little bit more respect It's you know in today's world of social media It's just a matter of getting all these images so they try to get all these images of them fondling and messing with the pygmy hippo baby and You know granted it's gotten a lot of a lot of attention and yet become an internet sensation But at the end of the day, it's a pygmy hippo. It's a baby, it's cute like all pygmy hippos are. I venture to say, like I said,

Dan was as cute or cuter when he was born out here and still thriving, and even though he's not quite as cute anymore, just a lot fatter. So is the zoo that is, in your words, whoring out Moodang, should we be canceling them? Are they acting unethically? Oh, no, no, no, no, no.

I don't mean it that way. I'm just saying that, you know, what we try to do is rather than take Dan Lebertard and handle them all the time and do all these things, we want Dan Lebertard to be with his natural mother out there on the habitat so he can learn to be a pygmy hippo and not be an internet model. Anybody who knows Dan knows that Dan does not like that kind of attention. So we try to respect that, appreciate his cuteness from a distance, but it is a pygmy hippo, it's not a mini hippo.

I've heard that over several platforms now. Oh, it's this mini hippo, like you have a mini schnauzer or mini dachshund or some kind of weird little breed. It's not, it's just the actual different species that's smaller than the average, you know, than the normal river hippo. It is a protected species and it is a unique, beautiful animal. So we, listen, there are people who say

we're gonna miss the boat because we didn't get all this free publicity and such, but we're not gonna take an animal away from its mother and handle it and do all kinds of things like that simply to get a bunch of clicks. We want the animal to grow up to learn how to be a pygmy hippo so we left him with his mother. We didn't do a lot of that handling on purpose so that he grew to be the pygmy hippo he's supposed to be. I should explain to new members of the audience that as soon as we left ESPN because ESPN would not allow us to

name a hippo at the zoo, Dan Lebatard, because they were afraid of a hippo escaping trampling people and then the headlines, Disney's Dan Lebatard kills innocent people, that when we left ESPN the first thing we did was go to the zoo, give a donation, and get a pygmy hippo that was in my name. Jessica, forgive me for interrupting you, I think there was a little bit of context that was required there for new listeners. Good context, Dan.

That's also helpful to explain, because last week when we were talking about potentially casting a show or a movie about this show, I was gonna make the joke that young Dan Levitard should be played by mood and but it's more appropriate to just say young dan levatard played by dan levatard at the miami zoo ron so is is a mini hippo an actual thing what like i know you tried to it you

said they're different species but it's a big me there is no such thing as a mini hippo such thing as a mini hippo no such thing uh... let me go to some video here of a lion, I think, walking through the streets of Rome. I want to get Ron McGill's analysis here of what's happening in this video. Ron, what's the context that you can give us here? Well, certainly not normal.

Not something that I would be very comfortable about. Terrifying. It's just like a, it looks like just a normal neighborhood and it's just a fricking lion just walking around. Yeah, that's a very big adult male lion that certainly has the potential to do a lot of damage. What do you do if you come across that on my street? Like, hey, hey lion.

Well, certainly don't run because you don't have a chance running. And once you turn your back and run, that's gonna certainly incite the lion to chase you. I would certainly put my hands up and I try to back up slowly, but never, never take my face and my hand, my frontal view of that lion. Make sure you always seize your face, seize you as big as you can, slowly back up, speaking

firmly, like, away, go away lion, hey lion, that kind of thing. Do not turn around. not do not hissing You can try that I Scary I think that works. It's unpredictable That would get eaten. You could also buy the part of a lion book Good plug there, Greg. Way to go. Thank you. How does this happen Ron? Do you have any theories on how it is that a lion could be prowling the streets of Rome that way? There's probably a traveling circus going through and not having the proper containment.

You know, a lot of these areas that don't have the laws and restrictions that we have here in this country, even though even with the laws and restrictions we have here in this country, we've had incidents where we've had tigers walking around Florida, so who the heck knows? But generally speaking, these are usually traveling acts as they're going from one city to another and, you know, an animal escapes because they just don't have the proper containment. On a rarer note, I don't know how it is in Rome,

but here in Florida, a lot of these people have these animals as quote unquote pets, which is another flipping disaster. So the Jets just fired their coach and I've been wondering what is the head zookeeper, what does a zookeeper have to do to get canned? How does that work? He's not the head zookeeper.

Well, that's not him. He's sort of the head zookeeper. He's not the head zookeeper. Well, that's not his word. He's not the head zookeeper. It is demeaning. He's not the head zookeeper. I don't mean to demean you, Ron. No, no, no, I mean, for me to get canned. No, no, not you, Ron. Someone under you.

Well, no, listen, for anybody working with animals to get canned at the zoo, you'd have to do something that's actually grossly irresponsible, letting an animal out where it presented a danger to the public, giving the animal something that led to its severe illness or demise, not properly caring for an animal, not securing certain locks, certain areas.

And even in that, there's a system of discipline that goes through the zoo here where you have a verbal discipline, then you have a written discipline, then you have a disciplinary action, then you have a suspension, and then you get canned. So it's not one of these things, unless you go out with a gun and start shooting things, that it's gonna be an instant canning.

There's a process. So it's not like sports? Not like sports, no, not like sports. But of course, we're not making that kind of money either. Ron, I've mentioned before the pond in my backyard. There are lots of ducks in this backyard, lots of duck families that have been raised. And about a week ago, there were some workers

that were sent to our backyard seemingly. They had a miniature boat in which they were corralling all of these ducks and then picking them up by their feet and walking them out of the neighborhood for us to not be able to see where they were going. My question to you is, should I believe that these ducks were being relocated or something much worse because it was pretty scarring to watch, honestly? Yeah, you know, my suspicion is that they were probably Muscovy ducks, non-native species, and probably people were complaining about the ducks.

And those ducks were more likely than not being euthanized. I mean, it's always possible they could have been relocated, but I don't know where they relocate them to because they're non-native species, and most people don't want them in their yard anyway. They produce tremendous amounts of fecal material. They are not generally liked by a lot of the people where they're found if they're corralling them up it's usually a company an organization that is specifically contracted to eliminate those ducks. Ron always good seeing you

I will tell the audience again that Ron McGill there is no bureaucracy between him and helping the animals it is just him and he is a caring individual who does the right things. And he's not a zookeeper. He is not a zookeeper. I'm very proud to be known as a zookeeper. I was a zookeeper for many, many years. Okay, but you're not a zookeeper now

and it's the most Samson question possible to get into the zoo segment by asking how a zookeeper would be canned. Thank you for being on with us, Ron. And I will tell the audience again that if you wish to care for the animals in a way that will take the maximum advantage of your money and use it most efficiently, the Ron McGill Substantive Endowment is the correct way to donate if you want to care for the animals. Thank you Ron.

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But my question to Ron is this. Stugats. That joke didn't really land the way you wanted it to. We all just stared at you. It didn't land at all. This is the Don LeBataard Show with the Stugats. You have got still a seething Greg Cody here that I'm gonna try to cheer up by telling everybody that the Greg Cody show featuring Greg Cody is a podcast

that you should listen to because it is entertaining and it is always climbing up the charts because what Greg Cody does with that podcast has been a career rejuvenation. Many people listen to it it what is on this week's Greg Cody show featuring Greg Cody actually we have our mutual friend Izzy Gutierrez on with us and he shocked me by revealing something very personal in his life and it's worth listening to. What was it? well I'm gonna tell you but then tell you why you need to listen anyway Don't tell us Greg.'t listen to the podcast.

No need to tell us. That's fine. That's a good promotion of the podcast. Greg Cody also, by the way, is saying something, David, that I wanted to get into with you because he does not want a Dodgers Yankees World Series, which is something that I'm assuming baseball wants. I would think that baseball would think it catastrophic if it were anyone other than Dodgers Yankees. Met Yankees, I think majorly baseball would be okay with that. I think they'd prefer Dodgers Yankees. A little nugget for you is that baseball

hated the Subway series because it shuts out the entire central and west part of the country. So they're not rooting for that. Ohtani is the biggest thing in baseball this season right and if you have the New York and LA markets and Ohtani versus Judge it doesn't get any better than that. But you don't want it. Oh I do want it are you kidding me? Okay I misrepresented what it is that I thought you were saying. I thought, yeah, bad setup. I thought. Yeah, yeah, check the show notes.

No, I said that you, if you're a TV, if you're Fox, you are openly cheering in the studio to get a Dodgers-Yankees World Series. David, I have a question though, because this is interesting. If Major League Baseball could only have one team, would it be the Dodgers or the Yankees? Dodgers, Ohtani.

Really? So Ohtani is bigger than the biggest brand in the sport, the Yankees. Ohtani is not bigger than the brand of the Yankees, but right now it's his first year in the postseason and they want to get him all the way through. Just get him to the World Series. Him being eliminated by the Padres,

which is a very likely outcome, because the Padres are a better team, it's not ideal. But yes, Yankees Dodgers would be the number one that they're rooting for. I don't think they're a better team, David. I think they're a healthier team. I think that their record over the course of the regular season doesn't make them a better team,

but because Freeman is hurt and Betts isn't quite right, I think you can make the argument that they're better now because they're healthier. The starting rotation for the Dodgers is definitely hurt, but every team is hurt. I'm talking about not the regular season, though. We, in the postseason, you talk about who's better now. But the way that you measure who's better

is over the representative sample size of 162 games is it not not in October and health is a huge part of that right like the Dodgers rotation is decimated So whatever hope they had of staying in games with the Dodgers are with the Padres rather the Padres hit six home runs in the last game they played and It's only getting worse to the to the point where Dave Roberts didn't rule out the idea of Shohei Otani pitching at some point in the postseason which won't happen But is an insane thing to not rule out because of how desperate you are for pitching What did you guys make of Dave Roberts? sending video to the league offices of Manny Machado grainy video from a camera that was far away of

Padres third baseman Manny Machado throwing a ball toward the Dodger dugout in a way that didn't seem especially violent but still necessitated a report from Dave Roberts. MLB will get that, it'll be Mike Hill and he'll get that and he'll do what MLB used to do when I would stand up and yell, we will not be contracted. And they would just ignore it completely.

So that video is ridiculous. Dave Roberts was not being thrown at by Machado. If Machado wanted to hit him, Machado could have hit him right between the eyes. So that was just what players do all the time between innings, they throw the ball. But Dave Roberts said he was unsettled by it. That's how you get fired.

I can't believe we're talking about baseball and we haven't gotten to the craziest thing that happened yesterday. Emmanuel Classe gave up runs. Finally, Chris, thank you. The Tigers. This is one of the best postseason at bats that you can ever see given the circumstances with Kerry Carpenter going yard against Emmanuel Classe. So Classe had given up five runs all season. Okay. He was the best closer in baseball. By far. Like by far the best closer in baseball in years.

His stats over his first four seasons are comparable to Mariano Rivera. That's how great he's been in the regular season. He comes into this game in a 0-0 ball game in the ninth. With two outs, two strikes, Kerry Carpenter up to bat, battling off a couple of sliders already. Klasay throws the third slider in a row. Only the second time all season, he's thrown three straight sliders in and out bat. This is a guy who had the MLB best opponents OPS against

left-handed hitters in the history of baseball. In the history of baseball facing at least a hundred left-handed hitters in a season, the OPS was under 300. And Kerry Carpenter, who had the fifth best OPS in baseball against right-handed hitters, goes yard for a three-run home run. There are so many more stats that are available on this, but the big one. When we were talking about big home runs last week, and everybody said, oh, I'll beat Kirk Gibson. This was Kirk Gibson. It's the first MLB player to hit a two-out, two-strike, go-ahead homer in the ninth inning of a postseason game since game one of the 1988 World Series.

You can't beat Kirk Gibson in the Division Series. In terms of the moment, David. You can't be Kirk Gibson in the Division Series. In terms of the moment. No you can't. David, it's October. It also cannot be one of the biggest, all time greatest at bats in a series that includes the Guardians and the Tigers. I mean, it cannot be.

The Tigers are having one of the more historic runs of any, no. Great at bats happen for the Dodgers, they happen for the Yankees, they happen for teams that people care about. Can I try to give you some stats that might make you care about this at bat? I will just say, okay, Mason Miller for the A's throws 104 miles an hour and he is not close to being the reliever that this human being is.

There is nothing in the sport more unhittable than this guy in the late innings. In the regular season. Well that's the whole thing, as he was spectacular all year. You know, Carpenter, this is the first home run by a left-handed hitter against Emmanuel Classe all season. It's the hardest hit ball against Classe of his entire career.

It was at 110 miles an hour off the bat. It's the first three-run homer he'd ever given up in his entire career. Again, he had only allowed three runs in his previous 44 and two thirds innings pitched, okay? Five earned runs in 270 plate appearances in the regular season, three in seven plate appearances now. It hurts me for you that no one cares

what you're talking about in here. You guys are all just looking around, nobody even cares at all. Jeremy Classe, we've been listening the whole time. I hate, I hate that you are this enthusiastic and you're Met everywhere by yawning indifference. With this guy, unless it's a Yankee, he doesn't care. Like a Yankee or a Met, he doesn't care at all. Maybe a Dodger, maybe a Philly.

Anybody who plays for Cleveland and Detroit is irrelevant to him. He doesn't even care about the Mets, actually. That's not true. Can I give you a name? Can I give you a name that maybe helps here? Because this is the third player in Tigers history with a go-ahead homer in the ninth inning

or later of a playoff game, joining Maglio Ordonez and Al Kalon. Yeah. How long you talking? Did I get you back? Yeah. All right. That's when the Tigers were the Tigers. We did it. Al Kalon. How long you talking? Did I get you back? All right! That's what the Tigers were the Tigers. We did it!

Al Kalon. Come on. That's what the Tigers meant something. A battery. I need something right now. I hate that we become your great grandfather's show. God, I hate it so much. He's one of the greats.

He was no Yaz, but still. You're right, he was no Yaz, you're right. Instead of just asking through social media to go to Detroit, can you submit some sort of budget of what it would require for you to go to Detroit? A plane ticket, because I imagine the dozens, the dozens of Tigers fans that have reached out asking for me to be in Detroit this week

as they continue their run. You're gonna do it for him, Samson, you're gonna pay his way, you're saying you're in. I will do a flight for him to go to Detroit. You just said it. I guess they'll let me stay there. I guess they'll let me stay. I just figured I'd bring my wife.

I don't want her to have to stay in a random place. It's a work trip. That's not the way you negotiate. Jeremy, he asked you a question. Jeremy, he asked you what it would take. I should have started higher. Yeah. Yes, real amateur negotiation.

Do me a favor while you're at this, please. Do me a favor. Look up for me whether Al Kailine was better than Yaz, because I think he was. No way. There is no way, Dan. No. I mean, are you kidding me?

100% Al Kailine? No. I'm pretty sure. Do it in Boston. Yeah, there it is. The bias of you have to do it for four or five teams, horse to gods, will simply not respect it. But I'm pretty sure that Al Kaelin was more of a Hall of Famer than Carl Yastremski was.

Says nobody in the history of baseball. I was ready to help Jeremy. And you wonder how easy it is to out negotiate people. Can you imagine the idiocy? I need a plane ticket, okay? That's what you'll get. I mean it does help go He agreed to terms he was gonna buy you a plane ticket It was done, and then you started negotiating on wife and home and lodging and food He asked you what you wanted all you had to do was answer it correctly when he asked you he was gonna say yes

He was ready to fly you there, and then you started negotiating for distant family members Well my wife is not distant You were about to go to other family members if he gave you his wife if your wife, too Well, I went up to UCF and created content with my brother using an iPhone So I'm able to do this without much help from anybody else in our staff So your wife doesn't have to go then? She could have had the iPhone for me. Somebody needs to film Dan, and we're not gonna send another person from our crew.

There's a hurricane coming. Okay, I'm pretty much done with you yelling at me. This started with just getting to be happy about- This is emotional. Tigers. Minor penalty, two minutes asshole. Multiple people walked up to me at the DDS today and said, we don't like the way the show treats us.

Yeah, it's had more homers. By the way the show treats us. We have Lyme. Yaz had more homers. By the way, I've texted Tim Kirchens, so we'll have an answer on this soon. Well, you can just look it up on the internet. No, no, no, that's how you do it. You ask Tim who's better, K-Line or Yaz, and whatever his answer is, that's the winner. It's a gap.

I mean, yep. Where's the Look At Me Louie button? What'd you say, I missed it? Who just, I just texted Kirchens. Look at me Louie button? What'd you say? I missed it. You who did I just texted? I would accept Kurchin's answer unless he says K-line again. You can just use the internet You don't even have to learn anything anymore. You just have to know how to find it It's not really that hard or you can do it even lazier than that and text him Kirk So we're just gonna put into Google who's better and we're gonna know you can just look at the numbers and read basic

You gave me more You're a baseball man, do you have an opinion on he already told you that Al K line was better than yes Two and a half minutes ago on what basis? All of the bases that are run around. Absolutely anecdotally. Let's go ahead and do against the spread please. ITech's passing. ITech's shomps.

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Against the spread tonight, we've got a major game three, Philly's Mets. And let's just say that the Phillies held Arenola to pitch in game three. Whoever wins game three of a five game series will win that series blank percentage of the time, fill in the blank, Arenola and the Phillies over the Mets. Against the spread. What is the percentage of the time, fill in the blank, Aaron Nola and the Phillies over the Mets.

Against the spread! What is the percentage of time? Is it like 78% of the time or something absurd like that? I'll just need someone in my ear. Okay, we don't know what the number is, but that is good sponsored content where we don't have any information or music, but we're gonna give you betting information

that you probably shouldn't take. Jessica, what do you have? Purdue and Illinois, Dan. Couple of big 10 teams playing this weekend. Illinois is pretty good. I think they're still ranked 24th right now. Good offense. Luke Altmeier playing quarterback.

Defense is really solid. Purdue is one of the worst football teams I've ever seen in my entire life. And somehow the spread's only 19. So I'm taking Illinois to cover that. Hmm. Against the spread. Against the spread.

Jeremy, bring us home. Sometimes you don't bet on a team, you bet against a team. And that's what I've been doing with Purdue all year. You're right, they are terrible. It's like, it's honestly, it's sad. And I think they need to light the giant drum on fire and perform an exorcism on it to come back and win a game. Notre Dame beat them after losing to Northern Illinois,

something like 70 to seven or something crazy. 66 to seven. I have an update from Passon. He said, holy bleep, that's a tough one. Thank you for that expertise. He'll get back to me. Text Shams. I will. I'm looking at the numbers. It may be a dead heat.

It's pretty close. It's really close. Yeah, that's why Pastin said it's a tough one. That's why you can't just look at the stats, Dano. Yaz won seven gold gloves. I don't know about the battery. How many World Series for Yaz? He was in one World Series, I believe. Did he win one? I don't think he won one. How about K-Line? Played for the Red Sox. K- believe. Did he win one? I don't think he won a one. How about K-Line? Played for the Red Sox. K-Line has a championship streak. We don't.

Okay. Not great. So does Trent Dilfer. Okay, very good. Different sport, good reference. The championship ring has been demerited over the years, and you know it. K-Line has 10 gold gloves.

10 gold gloves? I think Yaz had 11, I misspoke. Seven. Hey, so baseball? We're gonna keep going with that. Padres, Dodgers, we already talking about that series. Michael King is on the mound for the Padres. Walker Bueller is on the mound for the Dodgers. They have had slightly different seasons.

Walker Bueller's been really bad, despite being part of that 2014 Vanderbilt National Championship team in the College World Series. So you have Michael King on the mound. Padres are minus one and a half at home. We're taking the Padres against the Spurs. To win by more than a run.

You have them winning by more than one and a half. I have an update from Passon. He said Yaz's peak was better than K-Line's peak. Slightly into Yaz, 51-49. You said you wanted Tim Kirchens opinion on this. K-Lines peak. Slightly into Yaz, 51-49. Yes. You said you wanted Tim Kerchens opinion on this. Not just Passons. I got Passons.

I mean. Not a poor man's Tim Kerchens. No, we love Passons. Passons should have gotten Woj's job, not Choms. Huh. Under what scenario? You know, he likes Yaz better. I mean, you don't gotta do anything else for me.

Passons also pointed out that Yaz won an MVP and a Triple Crown. Thank you. Triple Crown. Yep crown yeah triple crown which went about 60 years without being one before Miguel did it let's talk for a second here about what happened with shams because I talked about this a little bit with David on nothing personal I will be on with David on nothing personal 8 a.m. Eastern on YouTube every day this week, except for Friday.

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This is the down libertar show with this two gods that's one of the things that we were talking about. This is the smaller petty part of this. For those of you who know that Woj and Shams were once pupil and mentor and then became bitter rivals. And if you know the inner workings of the information business and this fight for millions and tens of millions of dollars in the information business and if you've been listening to this show you know that Woj was very proprietary about how he was a power broker at ESPN, where it is that he allowed people that he got along with to appear on ESPN or not appear on ESPN and his rivalry with Shams became a bitter one because Shams became the only person on earth who could do that job as well as

Woj was doing it. He learned at woj's knee and I think he's still in his 20s if I'm not mistaken he may be in his early 30s but he is a real prodigy in this business to be able to do what woj was doing with a lifetime of basketball sources and did it differently because he had a lot of players as sources it wasn't just, it wasn't just agents, he was doing the job differently. Pat McAfee had Shams on all the time and Shams was the only person at ESPN working anywhere in basketball on ESPN who was allowed to appear on any show that Woj didn't approve of as a basketball voice

because he was doing it through McAfee, and it would appear that McAfee sort of enjoyed doing that with Shams to Woj. I thought it was very strategic, if you're doing the petty stuff on this that so many people enjoy, that Woj goes on Jim Rohn's show yesterday to talk about how proud and happy he is

that Shams has that job, when I thought that the only reason Jeff Passant goes on Jim Rome show yesterday to talk about how proud and happy he is that Shams has that job when I thought that the only reason Jeff Passant was being considered for that job is because Woege wanted one of his guys to work at ESPN even if he didn't have any basketball sources which Jeff Passant does not and even if we've already seen Adam Schefter went into the basketball information business to God's and didn't do it well because you cannot just go from one sport to another without a lifetime of sources and be breaking news all over the place. They're very difficult jobs to do well and have, and Choms is legitimately the only person

on earth with the credentials, the reputation, and the sources to be able to do that job as well as woge did I've found it surprising that the money hasn't come out on what it is that shams is earning because these are jobs that now make between seven and ten and eleven million dollars a year because the information business is so valued by a company at ESPN that has downgraded how it does and spends on journalism, but not on this kind of information. On this kind of information, they're replacing the journalism they used to do that was more comprehensive and thorough with just get to information first with one of the insiders.

Well, we saw what happened live on the show today when there was a story breaking about Salah being fired and we had an insider react to not being the insider for that story. And what struck me about this entire situation with Shams and with Woj is how does it work when you're negotiating? If you don't have any of the sources that you need to have, is it that you don't need the sources anymore? Because as a front office, we would give the information to whoever we wanted to. We would choose in baseball insider nationally to give certain things to, much to the chagrin of local media.

But we would do that, build, because we would want something back. You don't just exchange little black books. So I don't know how Jeff Pass and anyone else would have done that job. It is interesting. I always thought that Shams was the natural replacement to woge because he already has those contacts. He doesn't have to ask woge for him. He doesn't just have the contact. It's not like because you're right. I think with Pass and you're handing him the contact list,

but he still has to develop the relationships. Shams already has the relationships and he has the numbers So for me that was the natural guy a younger woe a contact list doesn't help you here. That's not that That is not how you do that job Just having the phone numbers woe chat and to give the audience an idea just how much money these jobs pay woe's left over $30 million on the table when he left. I mean. Is it possible the whole beef was just kayfabe, set up this grand dramatic succession plan? It's as possible as Aaron Rodgers ousting Robert Salla

because of the in-flight choices on movies. Oh, so I was kinda kidding, but I think both those things could be true. I mean, who wants to watch MacGruber for a 14th time, Dan? Fair, right, rank true to watch MacGruber for a 14th time? Fair, right. Rang true to me. Thank you. Yeah. Do you have any information or opinions on this subject?

I have a question for you because listening to you talk, this led me to wonder, do you think that Woj would have retired abruptly and surprisingly to many if not for shams on his tail i believe uh... i believe that the pressure of that job was only that pressurized for woj because of the existence of shams there's no third like chris haines is good and there are a number of people who are good at it there was no one and is no one that compares to those two. The bronze medalist there is a distant third.

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