The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 2: Dan Went To LA For A Zoom Interview

Episode Date: October 15, 2024

We start the hour with a Behind The Bit that takes us inside Greg Cote's iconic 4-5 am hour during Freedumb. Greg Cote is on a crusade to at least get Pete Rose on the Hall of Fame ballot, but not nec...essarily into the actual Hall of Fame. Plus, baseball is happening! Stugotz's New York Mets won a big game last night. Does he care? Was the New York Yankees' win in Game 1 actually a big win? When is it fair to start paying attention to baseball if you took the regular season off and your team is in the NLCS? Dan went out to do a Zoom interview with the second gentlemen, Doug Emhoff, and that leads into a discussion about Greg Cote turning down an interview with Deion Sanders. Also, Kornhacki takes a look at the NFC playoff picture if the season ended today, and Mike Ryan is becoming a Tampa Bay Buccaneers fan now? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:51 This is behind the bit. This is behind the bit. This is behind the bit. A very serious retrospective series on some of your favorite Dan LeBattor Show with StuGuts Bits. do gots bits. Segue nicely here from a nice heartfelt conversation to a psychic. Wow. Natalie Young is joining us. Natalie, are you with us? Hi, Natalie.
Starting point is 00:01:17 Hi, how are you guys? Good. Thank you for joining us. The reason we wanted you on is that this is airing from four to five a.m. which I consider to be the dead hour right in between late night and first light. Hearing me speak and seeing me. Are you able to form any sort of a indication of the type of person I am, whether I'm doomed, whether I'm about to hit the lottery? Like, what can you tell about me just from having met me?
Starting point is 00:01:48 I just feel like you're a very strong-minded person and usually what you put your mind to, you can almost always make happen. Lately though, I think there's been sometimes a little bit of confusion, questioning yourself, should I, shouldn't I, is this the right move? Is this not the right move? So you question yourself just a little bit of confusion questioning yourself. Should I, shouldn't die? Is this the right move? Is this not the right move?
Starting point is 00:02:07 So you question yourself just a little bit sometimes. Wow, that's a lot of baggage to unpack there for me. I haven't slept in three and a half months. February was probably the last time I really got a good night's sleep. And right now- And you need to change your underwear. I feel something about if you change your underwear more often, I think that might
Starting point is 00:02:32 help interview. I don't know if you're meeting people like communication better. Yeah. Yeah. You said you haven't slept in three months. It sounds like you're currently sleeping. You know what? I can't disguise doing this at 4 a.m.
Starting point is 00:02:50 It's tough. Ten more minutes. Let's go finish strong. What do you see as the future of the Dan LeBattard show with Stu Gotz as it sets sail in its new partnership with DraftKings? I feel very positive about it. I feel extremely, I think it's going to go quickly and go well and just start like exploding. I just feel good with it. How tired were you in this clip?
Starting point is 00:03:19 Okay. First of all, I had to thank in retrospect, I had to thank the Dan Leventard show for giving my podcast that coveted 4 to 5 a.m. slot on Freedom. It was what everybody wanted, you know, you go in there at 4 a.m. you're golden. So thanks for that. I don't know how tired Greg was, I know how tired I was because I was hours 16 in a marathon, I did not sleep at all that day. That was from freedom. And to truly appreciate how weird Greg's portion of freedom was. You almost have to watch the other 23 hours because it did legitimately
Starting point is 00:03:57 happen in the wee hours of the morning. And his approach was pretty straightforward. Like he came in with a plan, which is something that I appreciated. I was very curious at the direction that he took it, but it was so public access TV that it ended up being like my favorite part of that entire 24 hour marathon. It's really like one of the favorite things
Starting point is 00:04:16 that we've ever done. We also had- Belly button doctor. A belly button doctor from Tupelo, Mississippi in a wood paneled room. We had a lot of fun stuff going on. To look at your belly button doctor from Tupelo, Mississippi, in a wood paneled room. We had a lot of fun stuff going on. To look at your belly button. Yeah, I still have my protruding belly button there.
Starting point is 00:04:33 It's also not a health issue, although it's still protruding. I forget what they call that. You can show the audience. You can show them if you want. No, no, no. Let's not do that. I'd actually forgotten what the psychic said, so it was fun to hear her again.
Starting point is 00:04:46 Whose idea was that to have Greg interview a psychic? Well, it wasn't my idea to have Greg interview a psychic. My idea was to give Greg an hour and that hour be at an impossible time in the morning because I wanted to highlight several of the talents that were either a part of our network or within our family. So, Greg was very receptive to being given the shittiest time slot, which I loved.
Starting point is 00:05:09 But in terms of like the production and what he was gonna talk about, credit to him, he constructed the entire hour, which is all I wanted. I wanted Greg to do whatever he wanted for an hour. And I loved the results. Was Greg stalling for time? That was Greg's bizarre cadence. Yeah, it was early.
Starting point is 00:05:29 He was, we were all so tired. Yeah, it was just a tired Greg Cody just meandering through an hour with a psychic, with very strange guests. And like I said, it was a very public access TV. It was kind of like the Ed Wood portion of freedom and I look back on that fondly. I'm glad that in that clip I called out your lack of energy because it's all I was thinking
Starting point is 00:05:53 about the whole time. That's why I always tell anybody who's listening to the podcast whether my show or the Leviton show please listen to it at 1.5 speed because I sound much more listenable, I sound much younger when I talk faster. Somebody should invent something that makes you sound like you're talking faster, like 1.5. But that's a tangent. So Greg, she got a little cheeky with you there with the underwear thing. The underwear reference came out of nowhere. I don't know what that meant. You know, psychics, I'm not disparaging psychics, but I think...
Starting point is 00:06:29 No, I feel like you're about to. I can also say it's inaccurate. You know, I'm a serial underwear changer. I go through a lot of underwear. So on that count, she was wrong, but we're so happy to have had her on. I feel like you go through a normal amount of underwear. Well, what's a normal amount? I feel like you just overstated your underwear.
Starting point is 00:06:45 What's a normal amount? One a day. Like a vitamin. Why did you guys do Freedom? We wanted to do something big to announce our partnership with DraftKings, and we hadn't been as visible. We'd popped up occasionally on a Twitch stream here or there,
Starting point is 00:07:03 but the visual component of what we had been doing had been away for several months. So we wanted a big way to reintroduce our visual component and kick off our formal partnership with DraftKings and announce MetalArk as a company with something big. It was us filling 24 hours of content. And like my dad said, he was handed the glorious four to five o'clock hour.
Starting point is 00:07:26 So we just thought there's gonna be no one really watching at this time. Let's have fun with it. So we leaned into my dad's cyst above his belly button. We leaned into my dad had the idea of the dead hour. So we were just like, what's the creepiest person we could have on? Psychic, Grave Digger.
Starting point is 00:07:40 We just were like, let's get crazy. And one of our producers found this lady and I honestly had forgotten most of the stuff she said. It was pretty hilarious that apparently the Levitard show is going to explode soon. But we have that coming. Didn't freedom get weird in the late night hour? That's a whole other thing, yes.
Starting point is 00:07:55 There was a guy, because we had a ton of crew in for, we brought in a whole bunch of crew. So there was dozens of people that we didn't really know that were working this event. So there was one time when we were just kind of doing our show and there was a guy standing in the shipping container for a good three or four hours. And like, no one, because there were so many people coming around, no one really acknowledged it until
Starting point is 00:08:16 a few hours in, people in the back were like, who's this guy standing right there? And then in hindsight, he was wearing thong sandals. That should have probably thrown off. There was a dude that we had a major security breach but there were a lot of new faces with freedom, a lot of new video production people that we were using and I guess someone took advantage of the fact that if you just kind of look official you can maybe bypass the first level of security.
Starting point is 00:08:45 Thankfully, in that moment, he was chill. We've upped our security, so don't try that now, folks. I don't believe it was my idea to go for 24 hours straight. I think in the moment, I was excited about the challenge, but after it was over, I agreed that we should never ever do this again, and we haven't. It was a horrible idea. I mean, it was, you know, arm with hindsight,
Starting point is 00:09:08 24 hours live radio, bad idea. Yeah. Yeah, but your part was fantastic. You bailed us out, Greg. You know what? I'm so honored that they chose my four to five hour for this bit here, what do you call it? Behind the bit.
Starting point is 00:09:23 You got it. You nailed it. Behind the bit. Because it was fun. I mean, at the time it seemed like super horrible to have to do this at 4 a.m. But looking back on it, it was very spoofy, very tongue-in-cheek. The psychic was great, but I think the belly button doctor in the wood paneled den in Tupelo, Mississippi may have actually been my favorite from that hour. Folks, I want to talk to you about Hampton Farms.
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Starting point is 00:10:25 Stugats! Don't do it! This is the Don Lebathorpe Show with the Stugat! I am laughing because you and I were talking during the break and you have a never-ending quest of getting Pete Rose into the Hall of Fame. Yeah, no I do. It's a crusade, man. It's almost to crusade level and I'm a voting member of the BBWAA, so I have a little bit to say, you know, I can use an ounce of influence to try to get this done.
Starting point is 00:11:07 I think it's terrible that he wasn't allowed on the ballot while he was living. But now posthumously, I think it would be fair to do it. I'm not saying he deserves to be in the Hall of Fame. Let him in. I'm saying let him be on the ballot. Let the voters decide whether he has paid enough penance, be on the ballot. Let the voters decide whether he has paid enough penance, whether his lifetime ban should end when his life did, and now he should have a chance. And I really believe that. Is this the extent of your crusade, just that? Pretty much. Okay. Yeah, I'm not gonna- Just saying this, yeah. Yeah, right. Yeah, I'm not gonna rent a billboard.
Starting point is 00:11:39 All right, just, because you said that it was never ending. I was just wondering exactly- Right. Because at first I hear of it, but I'm not super plugged in all the time to the happenings of Greg Cody's I was curious probably get Dan to pay for a billboard for you. That's not Okay, let's go for it Walter Mondale Who did he run against Reagan for Reagan second term he voted Reagan? I think I voted Mondale Really? What? You know he only won one state It was his home state of Minnesota.
Starting point is 00:12:06 And he won it by 4,000 votes. Other than that, it was a clean sweep for Reagan. Yeah. I regretted that because I actually thought, as Republicans go, I actually thought Reagan was a pretty good president. Do you care that you're going against Pete Rose's wishes in your crusade to get him on the ballot?
Starting point is 00:12:22 We had him on the show. We played a clip. Yeah moments after he News circulated that he had passed Do we have that clip to the audience Just in a it's something for the living right he thought it's something for your family to do it to enjoy and he's like don't don't do that to me and when I'm gone because I family to enjoy and he's like, don't do that to me when I'm gone because I get nothing out of it. Yeah, my crusade, a little bit selfish, that attitude.
Starting point is 00:12:50 Your crusade died when he died? No, no, my crusade goes on. Against Pete's wishes, apparently. I want him on the ballot. Yeah, but I also think that's kind of BS. Like, okay, make a lot of other people feel good, but the guy that deserved to feel best about it isn't here. I think there's a bigger vantage point, a bigger view than that. I think the view
Starting point is 00:13:11 is baseball history and what's fair and what isn't. And I've always said as a voter that I think if you let somebody in like a Pete Rose, like a Roger Clemens, that the reason it took them a while to get in should be on that bronze plaque for eternity. If Rose ever gets in, it should absolutely say that he had this betting scandal, that that it kept him out for years, that he deserved to be kept out for years, but then in 2025, this happened and he finally got in. I think all of that should be laid out on the bronze plaque. Are you making it into the Hall of Fame though, if
Starting point is 00:13:50 you're not there physically, if you're dead, right? Is that really feel like making it into the Hall of Fame? Mike is right, like you want to do these things when you're living. True, but, and they should have, but this is a little bit of a chance to right or wrong. Yeah. And you know, throughout sports history. No, but right the wrong when he's alive to enjoy it. But there have been plenty of people posthumously inducted into halls of fame throughout sports, so he would be one. And it's a shame that they didn't forgive him.
Starting point is 00:14:19 You know, MLB's inability to forgive followed him to his grave, and I think that's a terrible thing, but there is a chance on some small measure to right a wrong here. Let's play that sound of Mike Ryan and Pete Rose. In the future, several decades from now, let's say Major League Baseball then makes the decision after Pete Rose is long gone to enshrine him in the Major League Baseball Hall of Fame. How would you feel about that? Well, that would be honest with you. I wouldn't want to go into Hall of Fame because I think the Hall of Fame, okay, and don't get me wrong, the Hall of Fame is for two things. It's one for the
Starting point is 00:14:58 player and it's two, three, excuse me, three things. His things his family Okay his fans and And his teammates and everything it was everybody who was associated more than three They don't help me when I'm six feet under how the hell is that gonna help anybody? They couldn't know it. I mean I can I still go out Today I go out and try to sell the game of baseball and I'm not even in the game of baseball But you guys will agree my name is synonymous with the game of baseball. I have all the records You know, that's all baseball is the statistics It's all about statistics all you guys on TV talk about how many home runs you got how many RBI?
Starting point is 00:15:39 You got how many runs you got how many gold gloves you win? How many MVPs you win? Yeah? How many World Series you play in? Those are all questions that I can answer with no hesitation at all. Greg, it seemed by your facial reactions there that you don't buy what Pete Rose is selling. No. I mean, he's saying that as a living person still trying to be inducted, still hoping that baseball forgives and changes its mind in effect. But in terms of, this is for the player and his family,
Starting point is 00:16:10 how about this is for millions of Reds fans who maybe appreciated your career and were in the hall of fame? It looks like you're talking to the clip. Pete's being selfish then. I don't think he's being selfish. I think he's being unrealistic and I don't believe he believed what he said.
Starting point is 00:16:25 All right, well, we have a little bit of a backlog here in terms of seances, we still need to talk to Don Shula to remove the dolphin's curse, you said you were interested in doing that with the medium, so we do a seance. Is it in poor taste to try to reach out to Pete so soon after his passing? Should we give him time to like reacclimate himself
Starting point is 00:16:44 to the afterlife? What do you think? I don't know the statute of limitations on that. Like when one passes away, is one instantly eligible for a seance? Or is there a period of time, like you have to serve a year underground, so to speak, before you then become eligible to contact through a seance
Starting point is 00:17:05 I honestly don't know the the rules. Well. Here's here's the thing so Pete voluntarily agreed to be put on the ineligible list because he thought that a year from when he Voluntarily agreed to be ineligible he could potentially be reinstated now that never happened So you're wondering if there's such a list in the afterlife as well be reinstated. Now that never happened, so you're wondering if there's such a list in the afterlife as well, that you have a year that you need to get reacclimated and then you can be reached out to. I do wonder that, and I have an answer for people who say, well he agreed to a lifetime ban. Yes he did, and sometimes criminals who do far worse crimes and sins than Pete Rose ever did are sentenced to life and
Starting point is 00:17:46 sometimes for whatever reason that sentence is commuted and they're eligible for parole in effect I believe Pete Rose should have been paroled late in his life well and he had other issues too he was accused of other crimes I understand you understand that standard seance is a year after you die. Is it? Yes. Okay. There you go. I looked it up. How are we talking about this before we're talking about any of the MLB playoff games that actually happened yesterday? Well, I mean, it's Pete Rose, Charlie Hussle. Yeah. Big win for the Yanks. How did this come up? I don't know. It came up during a break. Was it a big win for the Yanks? Yeah, ALCS. That's
Starting point is 00:18:24 a big win. Hell yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. I guess I'm very excited about the Mets. Lindor has become one of the most popular figures. Let me ask Jeremy real quick. Jeremy, you like baseball. Is that a big win? I don't know if it is. No, just nod yes or no. Yeah. He says it's a big one. It's not that big of a win. It's game one of the ALCS. I mean- And he also said he'd rather the Jets win than the Mets yesterday. You know, everyone thought the Dodgers game one was a big win. You know what the Mets did the very next day, less than 24 hours later, they came back and they had a big win. That's all I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:18:53 I think at this stage, they're all big. They're all big wins and big losses. I feel strongly about this. How in retrospect, Stugats, are you grading yesterday? Because you said yesterday it could potentially be one of the biggest days of your life, happiest days of your life. And then given the option, you said you'd rather the Jets win than the Mets win.
Starting point is 00:19:11 Now the Jets lost, but the Mets won. So how are we feeling? But the Islanders won at Colorado. They did. It started off as an A, with the Mets winning that game against the Dodgers. I would say about halftime of the Jets-Bills game, it went from like an A down to a B
Starting point is 00:19:27 because the game was still very much in doubt. The half time was the Hail Mary. It was, I know it was a C plus before the Hail Mary. I upgraded it to a B once they converted the Hail Mary. And then it went down in totality because I did want the Jets to win over the Mets. When the night was over, it went down to a C minus. But then they signed and
Starting point is 00:19:45 traded for Devonte Adams, and I'm right back to an A. In fact, it's an A+. I would say the totality of yesterday and half of today, okay? I am factory and half of today, A+. A plus for New York. Wow. I got a loss, that's fine, but I got a wide receiver. Plus you got the Liberty evening the WNBA final. And that as well. That was Sunday. That doesn't count. We were just talking about Monday. Matty Barzol got a goal. Listen, again, I'm giving it an A+.
Starting point is 00:20:16 Like, I don't know what to tell you. I got an Islanders victory. I got a wide receiver and a Met's game two much needed victory. So I feel good. Are you hitting the panic button if you're the avalanche? Yes. I mean, they're going to get some guys back, you gotta think. I mean, top six is not what it used to be. No, no.
Starting point is 00:20:34 How about Pete Alonso? What about him? Polar Bear. His, that run. What about it? Did you see it? Do you watch the Mets? Why are you guys focused on Peter Alonso and the run? Lindor hit a home run. What about it? Did you see it? Did you watch the Mets?
Starting point is 00:20:45 Why are you guys focused on Peter Alonso and the run? Lindor hit a home run. Why do you call him Peter? Well, because his friends call him Peter. His momma calls him Peter. What do you want me to call him? I thought it was Pete, no? It's Peter.
Starting point is 00:20:59 Most people call him Pete. Yeah, well most people call him Polar Bear. But I am more focused on the Lindor home run and the fact that the Mets lineup is so good that they intentionally walked Lindor to get to the Vientos, I think, and he had a grand slam against the Dodgers. So you want me to focus on Peter Alonso's run?
Starting point is 00:21:16 No, I focus on home runs. You know what Lindor's nickname should be? What, Frankie? The Chocolatier. I don't think that should be his nickname. I know it. I'm gonna start calling him that. Frankie the chocolatier I don't think that should be I'm gonna start calling him that Yeah, thank you
Starting point is 00:21:38 Chocolatier I am worried about Billy. Are you worried about Pete Alonso tweaking his oblique? No, I'm not worried about anything I'm worried about you because you keep whispering gambling advice into my head sense What Billy doesn't think I know what happened towards the end of the game. Wait, Pete Alonso is hurt? Yes. Is he? Yeah, hurt his paw. Wait, what's happening?
Starting point is 00:21:52 Like, what's happening? His dad? Is he actually hurt? His dad is hurt. His dad is hurt. His dad is hurt. His dad is hurt. His dad is hurt.
Starting point is 00:21:59 Your dad's isn't worried about the injury, so. Not even worried about baseball. I mean. Exactly. Got a wide receiver. He hurt his oblique, you're saying? It's his paw. I'm not even worried about baseball. I mean, exactly. Got a wide receiver. You heard his oblique, you were saying? It's Paul. I'm not seeing that. I am concerned about Billy because Billy keeps, and he's never done that.
Starting point is 00:22:15 I've known Billy for a long time. He never gives me or asked me for gambling advice, but he peppers me all day today in my headset, asking me my thoughts on the Patriots taking off at Jacksonville Jaguars, which brings us to Against the Spread. I don't understand how Sugats was concerned about an injury that didn't actually happen. You can tell me anything at this point.
Starting point is 00:22:38 I got a wide receiver. Congratulations. Thank you. Andy Barzol. Devontae, man. That's right, it's time for That's why receiver we've had since out tuned and it's brought to you Draft Kings stay tuned because you're gonna hear all about draft Kings
Starting point is 00:22:56 It all has to offer throughout the show draft Kings. The crown is yours Roy start us off I regret I'm sorry my you don't think he's not even the best wide receiver on his own team right now. All right, we got Guardians and Yankees today. I can tell you that the Guardians have won nine consecutive Tuesday Road games. So I had to get that word stat on there. Really? It's baseball, right? Write that trend.
Starting point is 00:23:19 Yeah. The Guardians in their last six games against the American League East, all the games have gone under on the total run line and Garrett Cole has allowed five or more hits in his last four playoff appearances. So I'm going to go with the Guardians who are underdogs in this game. The underdogs in this game by a run and a half against the Sprint. Well last week I had Purdue Purdue, or not covering, I had Illinois covering Purdue 19 points
Starting point is 00:23:49 and it ended up being a one point game in overtime just to spite me. So I'm gonna go with another spite pick. Aaron Rodgers and the Jets, they're gonna win. They're gonna cover one and a half against the Steelers on Sunday Night Football just to spite me again. Against the Sprint. So win-win for you, well done. Mike. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:24:06 Yep. That's how you do it. There's a couple emotional games on the NHL docket tonight. You have Columbus hosting the Stanley Cup champion Florida Panthers their first home game of the season after the tragedy that fell upon the Goudreau family. I look for Columbus to hang in that game, but also the Tampa Bay area affected by the, the most recent hurricane. They beat the Carolina Hurricanes in, in their first game of the season. They're at home taking on a Vancouver Canucks team that is traveling across the country.
Starting point is 00:24:36 So let's lay that puck line for Tampa Bay. As I already shown you, they can, they can do the emotional thing. So let's take them at home minus one and a half plus 165 I'm taking the lightning I'm conflicted on this one Stu gots and as he mentioned I was talking to him throughout beyond the bit because I had two Games that I had my eye on I had the Patriots plus five and a half at the Jaguars in London Wow this past weekend the Jaguars did not look good,
Starting point is 00:25:06 but they are in their second home. They were on the road in London, but now they're at home in London and they're hosting the Patriots. Drake May came in last week, and the question now is Drake maybe or Drake maybe not? Good question. He looked like maybe last week.
Starting point is 00:25:21 Now he had a couple interceptions, but he also had a dime that looked like an incredible pass to Keishan Budi. It was the longest air pass that they've had in three seasons. Some of interception, a little bit of bad luck, but plus five and a half, they have to go across the pond to get re-acclimated there.
Starting point is 00:25:35 I'm not sure. Then I was looking at the Lions plus two and a half against the Vikings. Vikings are undefeated. Lions looked great last week. Now they lost Aiden Hutchinson. How is that gonna impact them? I don't know is the team gonna make the picks I'm sorry. He's rolling right give some information. I don't give enough information
Starting point is 00:25:54 Sometimes you give information about an injury. That's just made up You know what Aiden Hitchenson is actually Aiden Hutchinson is actually hurt though. He's actually hurt. I saw that one happen. He's hurt. Out for the year. Peter Alonso, not so much. I'm gonna take the Patriots plus five and a half.
Starting point is 00:26:11 Against the Jaguars in London. Against the Sprats! Yeah. You guys hate information, I don't understand. Guys, there's a responsibility here. People, if they're listening to us they're there you know spending their hard-earned money on this we owe it to them to put some effort into you know I appreciate you sound like we know what we're talking about seconds removed from
Starting point is 00:26:34 you saying well that was a little tricky situation because you got said he was watching the games we were testing and then his response to the injuries like I know what happened I saw the injury yeah here's, I know what happened, I saw the injury. Yeah, here's what I know. This is what I know happened yesterday in the game. The Mets went long ball a couple of times, they won the game, we move on to game three. That's it. I do like baseball, I'm watching baseball now.
Starting point is 00:26:55 I haven't watched baseball during the regular season. I didn't watch baseball during the regular season. I'm not gonna be criticized for not watching baseball during the regular season. Did you watch it yesterday? And I'm not gonna be told that I'm jumping on the bandwagon of my New York Mets who I've been a fan of since 1981. Hold on a second.
Starting point is 00:27:11 Can you say I did not watch this team the entire regular season, but I will not be accused of jumping on the bandwagon by following them in the postseason? I have been a fan for 40 years of this team. If I take a regular season off, big deal. They have taken several regular seasons off, and I'm still there every single year rooting for that team. You can't say that you've been a fan for 40 years though. You've been a fan for 38 years because you haven't watched them over the last two.
Starting point is 00:27:35 Just because you don't watch doesn't mean you're not a fan. I hate that. I mean, I hate that. Just because I don't watch all the games means I'm not a fan. Just because I don't watch any of the games, I'm not a fan. Just because I don't watch any of the games, I'm not a fan. I mean, I watch the games that matter. And in baseball, these are the games that matter. You're a casual fan. I'm a casual fan at this point. But you're a casual.
Starting point is 00:27:52 I'm a casual Mets fan. I have earned the right to be a casual Mets fan. When did the game start counting? Like when do they matter? Because yesterday you seemed like you were a little half in, half out. Like now game three of the NLCS. Game three when we turn it on? Game three matters. three matters all right yeah game ones don't matter to me not even clinching a playoff
Starting point is 00:28:10 Spot I mean game one to me is the least important game of a best of seven series Okay, but let me ask you this thing. Let me ask you why would I focus on that? Okay, if the Yankees lose right game one yes Can you imagine the the scenario going around right now the Yankees lose right game one yes can you imagine the the scenario going around right now the yankees the the world series favorite loses the opener at home all my gosh armageddon overreaction
Starting point is 00:28:36 that's that's why the yankees winning the opener was big yet it just came on so that panic ensues right if you if you're the world series favorite and you lose the opener at home. Listen, I understand it. You would like to win game one. OK, it sets the series. You have the right momentum moving forward. I get all of it. Right. It doesn't matter if you win game one. That's all. In a best of seven. I wonder what the odds are of the teams who win game one that go on to win the series. Because I bet you it's like a coin toss. I bet you it's like 50%. Mike, you think it's greater than that? I think, yeah, I do think it's greater than a coin toss. I would think it's high 50s, if I'm guessing. I would argue close to 70%. Oh, wow. That would be surprising. 70% of the teams who won game one go on to win a best of seven series. In that sport, yeah. I would say it's a safe
Starting point is 00:29:23 bet that More times than not if you win game one you win the series But to answer your question Greg I start paying attention game three of the NLCS. Okay, right So if you can make it that far, I'll start paying attention. So you're gonna watch the next game Maybe well, you're off tonight Reaches back over to New York tomorrow. So three games at Citi Field. Yeah, I'd like to go to one, but you know, can't make that happen. Road trip, group trip? What do you guys think?
Starting point is 00:29:49 Sure. Yeah. That's not what a casual sports fan does. You can't, a casual sports fan will watch it. Maybe on the second TV with no sound. A very serious fan would actually hop on a bird, attend a game. Right.
Starting point is 00:30:03 But you're a serious fan now because it's game three. Listen, I was trying to make the larger point that I've watched baseball now for the last couple of days and the game is sped up in a way where I could see myself coming back to baseball again during the regular season next year. But I took a year or two off from baseball and I'm not going to apologize for it. Don't apologize. I'm not. So what are you thinking think you're thinking game?
Starting point is 00:30:25 What five game game three four and five Wednesday Thursday Friday game five? I'm thinking five o'clock first pitch Yeah, I'm in here. You're out by I don't know what eleven so hop on a bird Yeah, go up to game five want to go with me. Are you buying? Yeah Sure, I mean Dan is ultimately Sure. I mean Dan is ultimately but... Hey it's Mike, I'm talking to you from the road right now because I am literally traveling to watch my favorite team play a football game. It's something that is pretty routine for me this time of year and thankfully I don't
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Starting point is 00:32:56 Don LeBretard. Billy, somebody has written in here. I need way more. I'm sorry I just said in his headset haven't you been to all of them too it sounded like you were speaking aloud my bad hundred percent on me still gots yeah but that goes without saying right that the the the the
Starting point is 00:33:33 the the the the the We still have the NFC if the season ended today. Kornackey is out by the board. We'll get to him in just a second. But Greg, Dan is in California. He'll be back next week.
Starting point is 00:33:56 Yesterday, Dan conducted an interview with Doug Emhoff. Do you know who Doug Emhoff is? Sure. The vice, the perhaps future president's husband. The second gentleman. He is the first second gentleman ever. So Dan was out there, he spent about 20 minutes with him. The full interview is out on South Beach Sessions today.
Starting point is 00:34:15 Let's play a clip from it. You said that communication is key, but she couldn't communicate with you immediately to tell you that Joe Biden had stepped down, correct? You were busy in spin class, right? I was right. So it was, I was in LA. It was during that weekend when all the planes were down because of the software glitch. So I had to spend an extra day in LA and decided to go to a cycling class with some friends and it
Starting point is 00:34:45 was an hour class and we were just chit-chatting. I had my phone in the Secret Service car so I didn't have my phone and then my friend's partner just showed me his phone with the letter from President Biden and I'm like, gotta go! And just ran into the car and there was my phone literally like you could feel the steam, seven or eight messages all with you know where are you call comma call comma and it was a one minute or less conversation which started with where the f were you I need you right now and basically get to work and I did you run out sweaty are you wearing the tight biking shorts? Do you have those clackety clack spikes on the whole thing or I?
Starting point is 00:35:28 Try not to do the tight biking sure so I just do like the long Long old-school, you know Nike basketball shorts, which probably aren't great for spin class And I was drenched in sweat. I took the clackety clack shoes off, but the car wasn't exactly on the curb, so it was still a couple hundred yards of old guy, half running, trying to get to that car to jump on the phone and get in the mix. All right, again, that full interview is out on South Beach Sessions.
Starting point is 00:35:57 Today, Dan went out to LA to do a Zoom interview with Doug Emhoff. Wow. Yeah. Look at that lighting. Oh, it's great. Doug's trying to be happy and jovial there and Dan's looking very serious.
Starting point is 00:36:09 Yes he is. It is interesting how much both parties are using podcasts the last few weeks. I'm being honest, like Trump's going on a bunch, Kamala's done a bunch, and now he's with Dan. Why is that interesting to you or surprising to you? I just think, you know, I guess obviously they're trying to get votes,
Starting point is 00:36:24 but it just seems like a choice because they haven't always done it, but it seems like the last couple months there's been like a real push to get out there. It just seems like with one candidate, Trump is going on podcasts that the audience largely is already voting for him. So I don't think anybody's actually, nothing over the last eight years has seemingly changed anybody's mind. So, they're going there because they can control the questions a little bit easier, although I know Dan's already given voices to where he's a little bit trickier of a podcast, but this is all very thought out. They prefer this over a network sit-down interview where they'll be held accountable by the rules and regulations of true journalism. Yeah, the Greg Cody show has reached out to Kamala. Her people haven't gotten back to us yet, but we're hopeful. So we'll see about that.
Starting point is 00:37:14 Greg, as a journalist, would you agree to that? Would you let them see the questions before you ask? There are exceptions there, and that's a very good journalistic question. A couple of years ago, this is before Deion Sanders went to Colorado, I had an opportunity to get him on the podcast because you know related to some orange blossom special he was a game he was in and he insisted that I refer to him as coach prime during the interview and I didn't agree to do it So we never had him on I would make an exception To get someone like Doug M off like like I would agree to that because these people they have so little time
Starting point is 00:37:56 That's why you only get them for 20 minutes And and of course that they want to know what you're gonna talk about. Of course they do and and understandably so so yeah I would I would make that journalistic assumption. We asked Matt Barnes about it because all the smoke had Kamala Harris on it and we asked about you know how you were exposed as someone that's trying to pursue objectivity and journalism and a lot of these podcasts have to ask themselves a question. Do we make it known to our audience? Do we just try to ride this and understand that the access to this person is something that the audience will largely favor more than having a no holds barred interview? Each podcast has asked themselves that question. Don't you think the audience for the most part is accepting of, okay, my favorite show
Starting point is 00:38:40 wants to get this guest on and the way they have to do it is by agreeing to let them see the questions first. I think generally yes. I think generally audiences are okay with that. I think you'll have a vocal portion of your audience that will try to call you out on that and they're certainly well within their rights. It's just, like I said, generally people's minds are made up this late in the game.
Starting point is 00:39:02 So I think it also falls into where people are just viewing the late in the game. So I think it also falls into where people are just viewing the political landscape as well. But we're a different show now. If I were EP, I'd have my questions about it, too, because I was very much a hardliner on, we don't screen questions. But even occasionally, certain guests
Starting point is 00:39:21 would pop up that you know certain things are off the table. Then you'd go to your host, you ask, this thing is off the table. Are you at all interested in asking this person about that? Can you still manage doing an interview about that? If we do go forward with this interview, what is the messaging going to be? I don't think we were asking ourselves the same questions as, you know, Call Her Daddy or other podcasts, Bustin' With The Boys or whatever. Like, they all have different standards. Podcasts are a different game. Yeah, not all podcast hosts are journalists. I actually listened to the Call Her Daddy
Starting point is 00:39:51 interview because I was curious how it went and I thought it was really really well done and there wasn't any like gotcha questions or anything like that like it was clear that they agreed to make the conversation about women's reproductive rights and it came across very strong from her. I thought overall the questions and the answers were very, very informative and if that's what you're trying to do as a campaign is to inform people about what your policies are, then this is a pretty successful route of doing it. I've read that the listenership for that audience is very spread across the entire country. The age demo is very spread across the entire country.
Starting point is 00:40:25 The age demo's very young, which is a demographic that this campaign, I think, is trying really hard to reach. So I think it's probably a good strategy to get her on shows like that. I also think you need to appreciate the candidate's position and the spot that they're potentially in.
Starting point is 00:40:41 If you're interviewing Doug Amov without any holes barred and you do have the gotcha question that results in an embarrassing answer, it goes viral, it becomes a national story less than a month before the election. The pitfalls are extreme if an interview like that doesn't go well for Doug Emhoff. It's also part of, most podcasts are pre-taped. It's been rare. Most of the stuff that we've done over the course of 20 years, 98% live. There have been a couple of times where we had an interview that was either pre-taped before this new era of the show that people had issues with and we would have conversations with
Starting point is 00:41:25 higher-ups and internally how do we handle this and sometimes the answer, more often than not the answer is we're not changing this. I'm sorry you feel that kind of way. It's a failed attempt by public relations people but they're doing their job too. This is a bad look, this is not a look that we prefer, let's try to stop it. It's a delicate balance. This show's a little bit more unique in that the standards of the host in particular,
Starting point is 00:41:47 given his journalism chops, as Jess outlined, we still kind of adhere to that. And also, it's just also what drives Dan. He doesn't have to be a conventional journalist to have those same principles. And I'm sure there have been people in the podcast industry that have passed on these
Starting point is 00:42:05 opportunities because of that. There's all sorts of rumors that Joe Rogan is going to talk to one or maybe both of the candidates. Historically, he hasn't talked to people actually running for the office. He's talked to politicians before. He's talked to people that have eventually gotten to run for higher offices but like legitimate candidates he's kind of stayed away from that in his past. Dan has been very consistent with that in terms of no you're not gonna tell me
Starting point is 00:42:34 what to ask you know and who to ask and when I'm gonna ask it like he has been consistent as far as that is concerned. Did I hear you correctly in saying that the stipulation that Deon Sanders had was you had to call him coach prime Yes, and you said no to that. Yeah, what he's not my coach It's a made-up nickname. I just wasn't willing to do it But if what separates you from getting Deon on your show or on your podcast or writing an article is you just have to call Him coach prime that seems pretty benign Well, he made people do that at Jackson State you made journalists do that during his press conferences
Starting point is 00:43:08 Yeah, I'm just saying I take it like I want to get Well, I understand that but no I had say I'll admit I had second thoughts cuz I would have been a nice guest for my podcast I know I did have second thoughts, but I just at the time strangest line ever drawn in the sand What's that? It Just you right there like, that's too far. That's what I'm saying. Coach Prime can't do it. Really want him on my pod. Wait, I have to call him Coach Prime? Nope.
Starting point is 00:43:31 That's the way I felt. That's the decision I made at the time. And really all you have to do is introduce him as Coach Prime. Then you don't have to address him the rest of the time. How is Greg the ridiculous one in this scenario? Thank you, Jess.
Starting point is 00:43:42 It's ridiculous to ask someone to call you that. I'm sorry. Not only to ask, to insist. It's very silly. As a prerequisite. Yeah, I agreed. I thought it was silly. I mean, I understand why Greg did it, but I find it ridiculous to not do the interview because you have to call him Coach Prime. To call him Coach Prime! To me, it's something to have fun with. Like, I'd ask him about it. Like, Coach Prime, I've been told to call you that. Why do it? Like, as opposed to being like, not doing the interview. Okay. Right. This is below my standard. You call him Dion and just see how quickly he's gonna hang up. I'm with you, Like, Coach Prime, I've been told to call you that. As opposed to being like, not doing the interview. This is below my standard.
Starting point is 00:44:06 You call him Dion and just see how quickly he's gonna hang up. I'm with you, it's ridiculous, but to just be like, not doing it is just not the way. Aren't you the producer? You could've like, I don't even remember this. Suggested this.
Starting point is 00:44:16 It was a while ago. It was like early, it was whenever Jackson State was playing in the Orange Blossom classic, which was a while ago. I'm not sure exactly when that would have been. I wanna ask Mike as the former EP of this show, if Deion Sanders called in and the stipulation was Dan
Starting point is 00:44:33 had to call him Coach Prine, your reaction would have been what? I think, well, are we live? And I'm finding this information out. I talked to Dan during one of the breaks. I say, like, this is one of the stipulations. Do you want to make a decision now? Do you want to make content out of it where we say hey? We've been afforded the opportunity to speak with coach Sanders one of the Simulations is that we call them coach prime. We've also often crowd-sourced that stuff Like yeah, do we go ahead and do that? We take a gauge especially on on something that's like, I'm with you, Greg. I think it's a ridiculous thing. But call him Coach Prime and you, Greg, as
Starting point is 00:45:25 much as I love you, are being ridiculous for not taking Deion Sanders because you had to call him Coach Prime. Yeah. Keep in mind, this is pre-Colorado Deion Sanders when his- Now you do it. I think it's still a thing. I think it's still a thing that he insists. I actually, I thought you were, initially I was half paying attention. I thought you were talking about something that's in the news cycle because I've seen journalists talk about this, this Coach Prime thing.
Starting point is 00:45:47 What I would do is I'd call him Coach Prime initially, and then just like, see how far I can take it afterwards. You fire one off, yes. Just call him Coach and see how that lands. Just call him Prime, see how that lands. No, no, you're right. In retrospect, I could have done that very easily, and I also could have made content out it out of it by saying why do
Starting point is 00:46:05 you insist on being called coach prime in which case the the interview might have ended right there but you should have had your demands I'll call you coach prime you call me and mr. Cody well the difference is with Dan as Mike alluded to he absolutely would made that content and would have made fun of the on sanders for doing that. Yeah, yeah. He might have just challenged Deion within the interview. Now, your people are telling me, I have to call you Coach Prime.
Starting point is 00:46:29 Why is that so important? Dan's a little bit different though than most podcast hosts for many different reasons. Greg, are you interested in what would happen in the NFC if the season ended today? Oh my God, I've been wondering about that. Okay, let's go out to Steve Kornhacki. Wow.
Starting point is 00:46:48 We are back in Kornhacki's corner, Stu Gotz. And it's time to take a look at the NFC led by VP candidate Tim Walz's Minnesota Vikings. They currently have a 93% chance to make the post season at the end of the schedule. But right now they'd be the one seed. Let's take a look at the matchups. In the hunt, you have the Bears, the Eagles, the Cowboys, and the Seahawks.
Starting point is 00:47:14 The Eagles in the swing state of Pennsylvania at the highest percent chance outside of the current playoff picture to make the postseason. But when we look at the matchups, you have the 49ers and the Lions, two complete teams looking to have a chance to compete here in the four and five seeds. Then of course we head up to Washington, DC, where all of our presidential candidates hope to be those Washington commanders taking on
Starting point is 00:47:40 Baker Mayfield and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. And then of course a battle of the swing states. Atlanta's Falcons in Georgia. And then of course, the Green Bay Packers in Wisconsin. That's how things are looking over here in Korn Hackie's corner as the tie adjusts and we will not see any level of tie come the postseason. Thank you Korn Hackie.
Starting point is 00:48:03 Kind of an admission to make. Yeah. I've kind of become a Bucs fan. Because of Baker. Thank you, Korn Hackie. Kind of an admission to make. Yeah. I've kind of become a Bucks fan. Because of Baker. Organically, yeah. I'm watching them. Like, any time the games are on TV, I find myself rooting for them.
Starting point is 00:48:13 He's a gamer, man. He is. Did you see him running 50 yards down field, throwing a lead block? I love him. I love him. I love watching him play. I cannot believe the Browns are stuck with Deshaun Watson when they had Baker Mayfield.
Starting point is 00:48:26 Like it's amazing. But he is fun to watch. You can't believe anything bad that goes, that happens to that organization though. The Browns. Of course, like very few precious organizations can find a way to blow this up as badly as the Cleveland Browns did.
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