The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 2: Dan Went To LA For A Zoom Interview
Episode Date: October 15, 2024We start the hour with a Behind The Bit that takes us inside Greg Cote's iconic 4-5 am hour during Freedumb. Greg Cote is on a crusade to at least get Pete Rose on the Hall of Fame ballot, but not nec...essarily into the actual Hall of Fame. Plus, baseball is happening! Stugotz's New York Mets won a big game last night. Does he care? Was the New York Yankees' win in Game 1 actually a big win? When is it fair to start paying attention to baseball if you took the regular season off and your team is in the NLCS? Dan went out to do a Zoom interview with the second gentlemen, Doug Emhoff, and that leads into a discussion about Greg Cote turning down an interview with Deion Sanders. Also, Kornhacki takes a look at the NFC playoff picture if the season ended today, and Mike Ryan is becoming a Tampa Bay Buccaneers fan now? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Segue nicely here from a nice heartfelt conversation to a psychic. Wow. Natalie Young is joining us. Natalie, are you
with us?
Hi, Natalie.
Hi, how are you guys?
Good. Thank you for joining us. The reason we wanted you on is
that this is airing from four to five a.m. which I consider to be the dead hour
right in between late night and first light.
Hearing me speak and seeing me.
Are you able to form any sort of a indication of the type of person I am,
whether I'm doomed, whether I'm about to hit the lottery?
Like, what can you tell about me just from having met me?
I just feel like you're a very strong-minded person
and usually what you put your mind to,
you can almost always make happen.
Lately though, I think there's been sometimes
a little bit of confusion, questioning yourself,
should I, shouldn't I, is this the right move? Is this not the right move? So you question yourself just a little bit of confusion questioning yourself. Should I, shouldn't die?
Is this the right move?
Is this not the right move?
So you question yourself just a little bit sometimes.
Wow, that's a lot of baggage to unpack there for me.
I haven't slept in three and a half months.
February was probably the last time
I really got a good night's sleep.
And right now-
And you need to change your underwear.
I feel something about if you change your underwear more often, I think that might
help interview.
I don't know if you're meeting people like communication better.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You said you haven't slept in three months.
It sounds like you're currently sleeping.
You know what?
I can't disguise doing this at 4 a.m.
It's tough.
Ten more minutes.
Let's go finish strong.
What do you see as the future of the Dan LeBattard show with Stu Gotz as it sets sail in its
new partnership with DraftKings?
I feel very positive about it. I feel extremely, I think it's going to go quickly and go well and just start like exploding.
I just feel good with it.
How tired were you in this clip?
Okay.
First of all, I had to thank in retrospect, I had to thank the Dan Leventard show for giving my podcast that coveted 4 to 5 a.m. slot on Freedom.
It was what everybody wanted, you know, you go in there at 4 a.m. you're golden.
So thanks for that. I don't know how tired Greg was, I know how tired I was
because I was hours 16 in a marathon, I did not sleep at all that day.
That was from freedom.
And to truly appreciate how weird Greg's portion of freedom was.
You almost have to watch the other 23 hours because it did legitimately
happen in the wee hours of the morning.
And his approach was pretty straightforward.
Like he came in with a plan, which is something that I appreciated.
I was very curious at the direction that he took it,
but it was so public access TV
that it ended up being like my favorite part
of that entire 24 hour marathon.
It's really like one of the favorite things
that we've ever done.
We also had-
Belly button doctor.
A belly button doctor from Tupelo, Mississippi
in a wood paneled room. We had a lot of fun stuff going on. To look at your belly button doctor from Tupelo, Mississippi, in a wood paneled room.
We had a lot of fun stuff going on.
To look at your belly button.
Yeah, I still have my protruding belly button there.
It's also not a health issue, although it's still protruding.
I forget what they call that.
You can show the audience.
You can show them if you want.
No, no, no.
Let's not do that.
I'd actually forgotten what the psychic said,
so it was fun to hear her again.
Whose idea was that to have Greg interview a psychic?
Well, it wasn't my idea to have Greg interview a psychic.
My idea was to give Greg an hour
and that hour be at an impossible time in the morning
because I wanted to highlight several of the talents
that were either a part of our network or within our family.
So, Greg was very receptive
to being given the shittiest time slot, which I loved.
But in terms of like the production
and what he was gonna talk about, credit to him,
he constructed the entire hour, which is all I wanted.
I wanted Greg to do whatever he wanted for an hour.
And I loved the results.
Was Greg stalling for time?
That was Greg's bizarre cadence.
Yeah, it was early.
He was, we were all so tired.
Yeah, it was just a tired Greg Cody
just meandering through an hour with a psychic,
with very strange guests.
And like I said, it was a very public access TV.
It was kind of like the
Ed Wood portion of freedom and I look back on that fondly. I'm glad that in
that clip I called out your lack of energy because it's all I was thinking
about the whole time. That's why I always tell anybody who's listening to
the podcast whether my show or the Leviton show please listen to it at 1.5
speed because I sound much more listenable, I sound much younger when I talk faster. Somebody should invent
something that makes you sound like you're talking faster, like 1.5.
But that's a tangent. So Greg, she got a little cheeky with you there with the
underwear thing. The underwear reference came out of nowhere.
I don't know what that meant.
You know, psychics, I'm not disparaging psychics, but I think...
No, I feel like you're about to.
I can also say it's inaccurate.
You know, I'm a serial underwear changer.
I go through a lot of underwear.
So on that count, she was wrong, but we're so happy to have had her on.
I feel like you go through a normal amount of underwear.
Well, what's a normal amount?
I feel like you just overstated your underwear.
What's a normal amount?
One a day.
Like a vitamin.
Why did you guys do Freedom?
We wanted to do something big
to announce our partnership with DraftKings,
and we hadn't been as visible.
We'd popped up occasionally on a Twitch stream here or there,
but the visual component of what we had been doing
had been away for several months.
So we wanted a big way to reintroduce our visual component
and kick off our formal partnership with DraftKings
and announce MetalArk as a company with something big.
It was us filling 24 hours of content.
And like my dad said,
he was handed the glorious four to five o'clock hour.
So we just thought there's gonna be no one
really watching at this time.
Let's have fun with it.
So we leaned into my dad's cyst above his belly button.
We leaned into my dad had the idea of the dead hour.
So we were just like,
what's the creepiest person we could have on?
Psychic, Grave Digger.
We just were like, let's get crazy.
And one of our producers found this lady
and I honestly had forgotten most of the stuff she said.
It was pretty hilarious that apparently the Levitard
show is going to explode soon.
But we have that coming.
Didn't freedom get weird in the late night hour?
That's a whole other thing, yes.
There was a guy, because we had a ton of crew in for,
we brought in a whole bunch of crew.
So there was dozens of people that we didn't really
know that were working this event. So there was one time when we were just kind of doing
our show and there was a guy standing in the shipping
container for a good three or four hours.
And like, no one, because there were so many people
coming around, no one really acknowledged it until
a few hours in, people in the back were like,
who's this guy standing right there?
And then in hindsight, he was wearing thong sandals.
That should have probably thrown off. There was a dude that we had a major
security breach but there were a lot of new faces with freedom, a lot of new
video production people that we were using and I guess someone took advantage
of the fact that if you just kind of look official you can maybe bypass the
first level of security.
Thankfully, in that moment, he was chill.
We've upped our security, so don't try that now, folks.
I don't believe it was my idea to go for 24 hours straight.
I think in the moment, I was excited about the challenge,
but after it was over, I agreed that
we should never ever do this again, and we haven't.
It was a horrible idea.
I mean, it was, you know, arm with hindsight,
24 hours live radio, bad idea.
Yeah.
Yeah, but your part was fantastic.
You bailed us out, Greg.
You know what?
I'm so honored that they chose my four to five hour
for this bit here, what do you call it?
Behind the bit.
You got it.
You nailed it. Behind the bit. Because
it was fun. I mean, at the time it seemed like super horrible to have to do this at
4 a.m. But looking back on it, it was very spoofy, very tongue-in-cheek. The psychic
was great, but I think the belly button doctor in the wood paneled den in Tupelo, Mississippi
may have actually
been my favorite from that hour.
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Don Lebatard.
I want to address Tony and all men who would wear that shirt in public.
Stugats!
Don't do it!
This is the Don Lebathorpe Show with the Stugat!
I am laughing because you and I were talking during the break and you have a never-ending quest of getting Pete Rose into the Hall of Fame.
Yeah, no I do.
It's a crusade, man.
It's almost to crusade level and I'm a voting member of the BBWAA, so I have a little bit
to say, you know, I can use an ounce of influence to try to get this done.
I think it's terrible that he wasn't allowed on the ballot while he was living. But now posthumously,
I think it would be fair to do it. I'm not saying he deserves to be in the Hall of Fame. Let him in.
I'm saying let him be on the ballot. Let the voters decide whether he has paid enough penance,
be on the ballot. Let the voters decide whether he has paid enough penance, whether his lifetime ban should end when his life did, and now he should have a chance. And I really believe
that. Is this the extent of your crusade, just that?
Pretty much. Okay.
Yeah, I'm not gonna- Just saying this, yeah.
Yeah, right. Yeah, I'm not gonna rent a billboard.
All right, just, because you said that it was never ending. I was just wondering exactly-
Right. Because at first I hear of it, but I'm not
super plugged in all the time to the happenings of Greg Cody's
I was curious probably get Dan to pay for a billboard for you. That's not
Okay, let's go for it Walter Mondale
Who did he run against Reagan for Reagan second term he voted Reagan? I think I voted Mondale
Really? What?
You know he only won one state It was his home state of Minnesota.
And he won it by 4,000 votes.
Other than that, it was a clean sweep for Reagan.
Yeah.
I regretted that because I actually thought,
as Republicans go, I actually thought
Reagan was a pretty good president.
Do you care that you're going against Pete Rose's wishes
in your crusade to get him on the ballot?
We had him on the show.
We played a clip. Yeah moments after he
News circulated that he had passed
Do we have that clip to the audience
Just in a it's something for the living right he thought it's something for your family to do it to enjoy and he's like
don't don't do that to me and when I'm gone because I
family to enjoy and he's like, don't do that to me when I'm gone because I get nothing out of it.
Yeah, my crusade, a little bit selfish, that attitude.
Your crusade died when he died?
No, no, my crusade goes on.
Against Pete's wishes, apparently.
I want him on the ballot.
Yeah, but I also think that's kind of BS.
Like, okay, make a lot of other people feel good, but the guy that deserved to feel best
about it isn't here.
I think there's a bigger vantage point, a bigger view than that. I think the view
is baseball history and what's fair and what isn't. And I've always said as a
voter that I think if you let somebody in like a Pete Rose, like a
Roger Clemens, that the reason it took them
a while to get in should be on that bronze plaque for eternity. If Rose
ever gets in, it should absolutely say that he had this betting scandal, that
that it kept him out for years, that he deserved to be kept out for years, but
then in 2025, this happened and he finally got in. I think all of that should
be laid out on the bronze plaque. Are you making it into the Hall of Fame though, if
you're not there physically, if you're dead, right? Is that really feel like making it
into the Hall of Fame? Mike is right, like you want to do these things when you're living.
True, but, and they should have, but this is a little bit of a chance to right or wrong.
Yeah. And you know, throughout sports history.
No, but right the wrong when he's alive to enjoy it.
But there have been plenty of people posthumously inducted into halls of fame throughout sports,
so he would be one.
And it's a shame that they didn't forgive him.
You know, MLB's inability to forgive followed him to his grave, and I think that's a terrible thing,
but there is a chance on some small measure to right a wrong here.
Let's play that sound of Mike Ryan and Pete Rose.
In the future, several decades from now, let's say Major League Baseball then makes the decision
after Pete Rose is long gone to enshrine him in the Major League Baseball Hall of Fame.
How would you feel about that?
Well, that would be honest with you. I wouldn't want to go into Hall of Fame because I think the
Hall of Fame, okay, and don't get me wrong, the Hall of Fame is for two things. It's one for the
player and it's two, three, excuse me, three things. His things his family Okay his fans
and And his teammates and everything it was everybody who was associated more than three
They don't help me when I'm six feet under how the hell is that gonna help anybody?
They couldn't know it. I mean I can I still go out
Today I go out and try to sell the game of baseball and I'm not even in the game of baseball
But you guys will agree my name is synonymous with the game of baseball. I have all the records
You know, that's all baseball is the statistics
It's all about statistics all you guys on TV talk about how many home runs you got how many RBI?
You got how many runs you got how many gold gloves you win?
How many MVPs you win? Yeah? How many World Series you play in?
Those are all questions that I can answer with no hesitation at all.
Greg, it seemed by your facial reactions there that you don't buy what Pete Rose is selling.
No.
I mean, he's saying that as a living person still trying to be inducted, still hoping
that baseball forgives and changes its mind in effect.
But in terms of, this is for the player and his family,
how about this is for millions of Reds fans
who maybe appreciated your career
and were in the hall of fame?
It looks like you're talking to the clip.
Pete's being selfish then.
I don't think he's being selfish.
I think he's being unrealistic
and I don't believe he believed what he said.
All right, well, we have a little bit of a backlog here
in terms of seances, we still need to talk to Don Shula
to remove the dolphin's curse,
you said you were interested in doing that
with the medium, so we do a seance.
Is it in poor taste to try to reach out to Pete
so soon after his passing?
Should we give him time to like reacclimate himself
to the afterlife?
What do you think?
I don't know the statute of limitations on that.
Like when one passes away,
is one instantly eligible for a seance?
Or is there a period of time,
like you have to serve a year underground, so to speak,
before you then become eligible to contact through a seance
I honestly don't know the the rules. Well. Here's here's the thing so Pete
voluntarily agreed to be put on the ineligible list because he thought that a year from when he
Voluntarily agreed to be ineligible he could potentially be reinstated now that never happened
So you're wondering if there's such a list in the afterlife as well
be reinstated. Now that never happened, so you're wondering if there's such a list in the afterlife as well, that you have a year that you need to get
reacclimated and then you can be reached out to. I do wonder that, and I have an
answer for people who say, well he agreed to a lifetime ban. Yes he did, and
sometimes criminals who do far worse crimes and sins than Pete Rose ever did are sentenced to life and
sometimes for whatever reason that sentence is commuted and they're
eligible for parole in effect I believe Pete Rose should have been paroled late
in his life well and he had other issues too he was accused of other crimes I
understand you understand that standard seance is a year after you
die. Is it? Yes. Okay. There you go. I looked it up. How are we talking about this before
we're talking about any of the MLB playoff games that actually happened yesterday? Well,
I mean, it's Pete Rose, Charlie Hussle. Yeah. Big win for the Yanks. How did this come up?
I don't know. It came up during a break. Was it a big win for the Yanks? Yeah, ALCS. That's
a big win. Hell yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. I guess I'm very excited about the Mets. Lindor has become one
of the most popular figures. Let me ask Jeremy real quick. Jeremy, you like baseball. Is that a
big win? I don't know if it is. No, just nod yes or no. Yeah. He says it's a big one.
It's not that big of a win. It's game one of the ALCS. I mean-
And he also said he'd rather the Jets win than the Mets yesterday.
You know, everyone thought the Dodgers game one was a big win. You know what the Mets
did the very next day, less than 24 hours later, they came back and they had a big win.
That's all I'm saying.
I think at this stage, they're all big.
They're all big wins and big losses.
I feel strongly about this.
How in retrospect, Stugats, are you grading yesterday? Because you said yesterday it could
potentially be one of the biggest days of your life,
happiest days of your life.
And then given the option, you said
you'd rather the Jets win than the Mets win.
Now the Jets lost, but the Mets won.
So how are we feeling?
But the Islanders won at Colorado.
They did.
It started off as an A, with the Mets winning
that game against the Dodgers.
I would say about halftime of the Jets-Bills game,
it went from like an A down to a B
because the game was still very much in doubt.
The half time was the Hail Mary.
It was, I know it was a C plus before the Hail Mary.
I upgraded it to a B once they converted the Hail Mary.
And then it went down in totality
because I did want the Jets to win over the Mets.
When the night was over, it went down to a C minus.
But then they signed and
traded for Devonte Adams, and I'm right back to an A. In fact, it's an A+. I would say
the totality of yesterday and half of today, okay? I am factory and half of today, A+.
A plus for New York. Wow. I got a loss, that's fine, but I got a wide receiver. Plus you
got the Liberty evening the WNBA final.
And that as well.
That was Sunday. That doesn't count. We were just talking about Monday.
Matty Barzol got a goal.
Listen, again, I'm giving it an A+.
Like, I don't know what to tell you. I got an Islanders victory.
I got a wide receiver and a Met's game two much needed victory.
So I feel good.
Are you hitting the panic button if you're the avalanche?
Yes.
I mean, they're going to get some guys back, you gotta think.
I mean, top six is not what it used to be.
No, no.
How about Pete Alonso?
What about him?
Polar Bear.
His, that run.
What about it?
Did you see it?
Do you watch the Mets?
Why are you guys focused on Peter Alonso and the run? Lindor hit a home run. What about it? Did you see it? Did you watch the Mets?
Why are you guys focused on Peter Alonso and the run?
Lindor hit a home run.
Why do you call him Peter?
Well, because his friends call him Peter.
His momma calls him Peter.
What do you want me to call him?
I thought it was Pete, no?
It's Peter.
Most people call him Pete.
Yeah, well most people call him Polar Bear.
But I am more focused on the Lindor home run
and the fact that the Mets lineup is so good
that they intentionally walked Lindor
to get to the Vientos, I think,
and he had a grand slam against the Dodgers.
So you want me to focus on Peter Alonso's run?
No, I focus on home runs.
You know what Lindor's nickname should be?
What, Frankie?
The Chocolatier.
I don't think that should be his nickname.
I know it. I'm gonna start calling him that. Frankie the chocolatier I don't think that should be
I'm gonna start calling him that
Yeah, thank you
Chocolatier I am worried about Billy. Are you worried about Pete Alonso tweaking his oblique? No, I'm not worried about anything I'm worried about you because you keep whispering gambling advice into my head sense
What Billy doesn't think I know what happened
towards the end of the game.
Wait, Pete Alonso is hurt?
Yes.
Is he?
Yeah, hurt his paw.
Wait, what's happening?
Like, what's happening?
His dad?
Is he actually hurt?
His dad is hurt.
His dad is hurt.
His dad is hurt.
His dad is hurt.
His dad is hurt.
Your dad's isn't worried about the injury, so.
Not even worried about baseball.
I mean.
Exactly.
Got a wide receiver. He hurt his oblique, you're saying? It's his paw. I'm not even worried about baseball. I mean, exactly. Got a wide receiver. You heard his oblique, you were saying?
It's Paul.
I'm not seeing that.
I am concerned about Billy because Billy keeps, and he's never done that.
I've known Billy for a long time.
He never gives me or asked me for gambling advice, but he peppers me all day today in my headset,
asking me my thoughts on the Patriots
taking off at Jacksonville Jaguars,
which brings us to Against the Spread.
I don't understand how Sugats was concerned
about an injury that didn't actually happen.
You can tell me anything at this point.
I got a wide receiver.
Congratulations.
Thank you.
Andy Barzol.
Devontae, man.
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All right, we got Guardians and Yankees today.
I can tell you that the Guardians have won nine consecutive Tuesday Road games.
So I had to get that word stat on there.
Really?
It's baseball, right?
Write that trend.
Yeah.
The Guardians in their last six games against the American League East,
all the games have gone under on the total run line and Garrett Cole has allowed five or more hits in his
last four playoff appearances.
So I'm going to go with the Guardians who are underdogs in this game.
The underdogs in this game by a run and a half against the Sprint.
Well last week I had Purdue Purdue, or not covering,
I had Illinois covering Purdue 19 points
and it ended up being a one point game in overtime
just to spite me.
So I'm gonna go with another spite pick.
Aaron Rodgers and the Jets, they're gonna win.
They're gonna cover one and a half against the Steelers
on Sunday Night Football just to spite me again.
Against the Sprint.
So win-win for you, well done. Mike. Thank you.
Yep. That's how you do it. There's a couple emotional games on the NHL docket tonight. You have
Columbus hosting the Stanley Cup champion Florida Panthers their first home game of the season after
the tragedy that fell upon the Goudreau family. I look for Columbus to hang in that game, but also the Tampa Bay area affected by the,
the most recent hurricane.
They beat the Carolina Hurricanes in,
in their first game of the season.
They're at home taking on a Vancouver Canucks team
that is traveling across the country.
So let's lay that puck line for Tampa Bay.
As I already shown you, they can,
they can do the emotional thing.
So let's take them at home minus one and a half plus 165
I'm taking the lightning
I'm conflicted on this one Stu gots and as he mentioned I was talking to him throughout beyond the bit because I had two
Games that I had my eye on I had the Patriots plus five and a half at the Jaguars in London
Wow this past weekend the Jaguars did not look good,
but they are in their second home.
They were on the road in London,
but now they're at home in London
and they're hosting the Patriots.
Drake May came in last week,
and the question now is Drake maybe or Drake maybe not?
Good question.
He looked like maybe last week.
Now he had a couple interceptions,
but he also had a dime that looked like an incredible pass
to Keishan Budi.
It was the longest air pass that they've had
in three seasons.
Some of interception, a little bit of bad luck,
but plus five and a half,
they have to go across the pond to get re-acclimated there.
I'm not sure.
Then I was looking at the Lions plus two and a half
against the Vikings.
Vikings are undefeated.
Lions looked great last week.
Now they lost Aiden Hutchinson. How is that gonna impact them?
I don't know is the team gonna make the picks
I'm sorry. He's rolling right give some information. I don't give enough information
Sometimes you give information about an injury. That's just made up
You know what Aiden Hitchenson is actually
Aiden Hutchinson is actually hurt though. He's actually hurt.
I saw that one happen.
He's hurt.
Out for the year.
Peter Alonso, not so much.
I'm gonna take the Patriots plus five and a half.
Against the Jaguars in London.
Against the Sprats!
Yeah.
You guys hate information, I don't understand.
Guys, there's a responsibility here.
People, if they're listening to us they're there you know spending their
hard-earned money on this we owe it to them to put some effort into you know I
appreciate you sound like we know what we're talking about seconds removed from
you saying well that was a little tricky situation because you got said he was
watching the games we were testing and then his response to the injuries like I
know what happened I saw the injury yeah here's, I know what happened, I saw the injury. Yeah, here's what I know.
This is what I know happened yesterday in the game.
The Mets went long ball a couple of times,
they won the game, we move on to game three.
That's it.
I do like baseball, I'm watching baseball now.
I haven't watched baseball during the regular season.
I didn't watch baseball during the regular season.
I'm not gonna be criticized for not watching baseball
during the regular season.
Did you watch it yesterday?
And I'm not gonna be told that I'm jumping on the bandwagon
of my New York Mets who I've been a fan of since 1981.
Hold on a second.
Can you say I did not watch this team the entire regular season,
but I will not be accused of jumping on the bandwagon
by following them in the postseason?
I have been a fan for 40 years of this team.
If I take a regular season off, big deal.
They have taken several regular seasons off, and I'm still there every single year rooting for that team.
You can't say that you've been a fan for 40 years though. You've been a fan for 38 years
because you haven't watched them over the last two.
Just because you don't watch doesn't mean you're not a fan. I hate that. I mean, I hate
that. Just because I don't watch all the games means I'm not a fan. Just because I don't
watch any of the games, I'm not a fan. Just because I don't watch any of the games, I'm not a fan.
I mean, I watch the games that matter.
And in baseball, these are the games that matter.
You're a casual fan.
I'm a casual fan at this point.
But you're a casual.
I'm a casual Mets fan.
I have earned the right to be a casual Mets fan.
When did the game start counting?
Like when do they matter?
Because yesterday you seemed like
you were a little half in, half out.
Like now game three of the NLCS.
Game three when we turn it on? Game three matters. three matters all right yeah game ones don't matter to me not even clinching a playoff
Spot I mean game one to me is the least important game of a best of seven series
Okay, but let me ask you this thing. Let me ask you why would I focus on that?
Okay, if the Yankees lose right game one yes
Can you imagine the the scenario going around right now the Yankees lose right game one yes can you imagine the the scenario going around right now the yankees
the the world series favorite loses the opener at home
all my gosh
armageddon
overreaction
that's that's why the yankees winning the opener was big
yet it just came on so that panic ensues right if you if you're the world series
favorite and you lose the opener at home.
Listen, I understand it. You would like to win game one. OK, it sets the series. You have the right momentum moving forward. I get all of it. Right. It doesn't matter if you win game one. That's all. In a best of seven. I wonder what the odds are of the teams who win game one that go on to win the series. Because I bet you it's like a coin toss. I bet you it's like 50%. Mike, you think it's greater than that?
I think, yeah, I do think it's greater than a coin toss.
I would think it's high 50s, if I'm guessing. I would argue close to 70%.
Oh, wow. That would be surprising. 70% of the teams who won game one go on to win
a best of seven series. In that sport, yeah. I would say it's a safe
bet that
More times than not if you win game one you win the series
But to answer your question Greg I start paying attention game three of the NLCS. Okay, right So if you can make it that far, I'll start paying attention. So you're gonna watch the next game
Maybe well, you're off tonight
Reaches back over to New York tomorrow. So three games at Citi Field. Yeah, I'd like to go to one, but you know,
can't make that happen.
Road trip, group trip?
What do you guys think?
Sure.
Yeah.
That's not what a casual sports fan does.
You can't, a casual sports fan will watch it.
Maybe on the second TV with no sound.
A very serious fan would actually hop on a bird,
attend a game.
Right.
But you're a serious fan now because it's game three.
Listen, I was trying to make the larger point that I've watched baseball now for the last
couple of days and the game is sped up in a way where I could see myself coming back
to baseball again during the regular season next year.
But I took a year or two off from baseball and I'm not going to apologize for it.
Don't apologize.
I'm not.
So what are you thinking think you're thinking game?
What five game game three four and five Wednesday Thursday Friday game five? I'm thinking five o'clock first pitch
Yeah, I'm in here. You're out by I don't know what eleven so hop on a bird
Yeah, go up to game five want to go with me. Are you buying? Yeah
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I'm sorry I just said in his headset haven't
you been to all of them too it sounded like you were speaking aloud my bad
hundred percent on me still gots yeah but that goes without saying right that the the
the
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the the We still have the NFC if the season ended today.
Kornackey is out by the board.
We'll get to him in just a second.
But Greg, Dan is in California.
He'll be back next week.
Yesterday, Dan conducted an interview with Doug Emhoff.
Do you know who Doug Emhoff is?
Sure.
The vice, the perhaps future president's husband.
The second gentleman.
He is the first second gentleman ever.
So Dan was out there, he spent about 20 minutes with him.
The full interview is out on South Beach Sessions today.
Let's play a clip from it.
You said that communication is key,
but she couldn't communicate with you immediately
to tell you that Joe Biden had stepped down,
correct? You were busy in spin class, right?
I was right. So it was, I was in LA. It was during that weekend when all the planes were
down because of the software glitch. So I had to spend an extra day in LA and decided to
go to a cycling class with some friends and it
was an hour class and we were just chit-chatting. I had my phone in the
Secret Service car so I didn't have my phone and then my friend's partner just
showed me his phone with the letter from President Biden and I'm like, gotta go!
And just ran into the car and there was my phone literally like you could feel
the steam, seven or eight messages all with you know where are you call comma call
comma and it was a one minute or less conversation which started with where
the f were you I need you right now and basically get to work and I did you run
out sweaty are you wearing the tight biking shorts? Do you have those clackety clack spikes on the whole thing or I?
Try not to do the tight biking sure so I just do like the long
Long old-school, you know Nike basketball shorts, which probably aren't great for spin class
And I was drenched in sweat. I took the clackety clack shoes off, but the car wasn't exactly on the curb,
so it was still a couple hundred yards of old guy,
half running, trying to get to that car
to jump on the phone and get in the mix.
All right, again, that full interview
is out on South Beach Sessions.
Today, Dan went out to LA to do a Zoom interview
with Doug Emhoff.
Wow.
Yeah.
Look at that lighting.
Oh, it's great.
Doug's trying to be happy and jovial there
and Dan's looking very serious.
Yes he is.
It is interesting how much both parties
are using podcasts the last few weeks.
I'm being honest, like Trump's going on a bunch,
Kamala's done a bunch, and now he's with Dan.
Why is that interesting to you or surprising to you?
I just think, you know,
I guess obviously they're trying to get votes,
but it just seems like a choice because they haven't always done it, but it seems like the last couple months there's been like a real push to get out there.
It just seems like with one candidate, Trump is going on podcasts that the audience largely is already voting for him. So I don't think anybody's actually, nothing over the last eight years has seemingly changed anybody's mind. So, they're going there because they can control the questions a little bit
easier, although I know Dan's already given voices to where he's a little bit
trickier of a podcast, but this is all very thought out. They prefer this over a
network sit-down interview where they'll be held accountable by the rules
and regulations of true journalism.
Yeah, the Greg Cody show has reached out to Kamala. Her people haven't gotten back to
us yet, but we're hopeful. So we'll see about that.
Greg, as a journalist, would you agree to that? Would you let them see the questions
before you ask?
There are exceptions there, and that's a very good journalistic question. A couple of years ago, this is before Deion Sanders went to Colorado, I had an
opportunity to get him on the podcast because you know related to some orange
blossom special he was a game he was in and he insisted that I refer to him as
coach prime during the interview and I didn't agree to do it
So we never had him on I would make an exception
To get someone like Doug M off like like I would agree to that because these people they have so little time
That's why you only get them for 20 minutes
And and of course that they want to know what you're gonna talk about. Of course they do and and understandably so so yeah
I would I would make that journalistic assumption. We asked Matt Barnes about it because all the
smoke had Kamala Harris on it and we asked about you know how you were exposed as someone that's
trying to pursue objectivity and journalism and a lot of these podcasts have to ask themselves a
question. Do we make it known to our audience? Do we just try to ride this and understand that the access to this person is something that the audience will largely
favor more than having a no holds barred interview? Each podcast has asked themselves that question.
Don't you think the audience for the most part is accepting of, okay, my favorite show
wants to get this guest on and the way they have to do it is by agreeing to let them see the questions first.
I think generally yes.
I think generally audiences are okay with that.
I think you'll have a vocal portion of your audience
that will try to call you out on that
and they're certainly well within their rights.
It's just, like I said,
generally people's minds are made up this late in the game.
So I think it also falls into
where people are just viewing the late in the game. So I think it also falls into where people are just
viewing the political landscape as well.
But we're a different show now.
If I were EP, I'd have my questions about it, too,
because I was very much a hardliner on,
we don't screen questions.
But even occasionally, certain guests
would pop up that you know certain things are
off the table. Then you'd go to your host, you ask, this thing is off the table. Are you at all
interested in asking this person about that? Can you still manage doing an
interview about that? If we do go forward with this interview, what is the
messaging going to be? I don't think we were asking ourselves the same
questions as, you know, Call Her Daddy or other podcasts, Bustin' With The Boys or
whatever. Like, they all have different standards. Podcasts are a different game.
Yeah, not all podcast hosts are journalists. I actually listened to the Call Her Daddy
interview because I was curious how it went and I thought it was really really
well done and there wasn't any like gotcha questions or anything like that
like it was clear that they agreed to make the conversation about women's
reproductive rights and it came across very strong from her. I thought overall the questions and the
answers were very, very informative and if that's what you're trying to do as a campaign
is to inform people about what your policies are, then this is a pretty successful route
of doing it. I've read that the listenership for that audience is very spread across the
entire country. The age demo is very spread across the entire country.
The age demo's very young, which is a demographic
that this campaign, I think,
is trying really hard to reach.
So I think it's probably a good strategy
to get her on shows like that.
I also think you need to appreciate
the candidate's position
and the spot that they're potentially in.
If you're interviewing Doug Amov without any holes barred and you
do have the gotcha question that results in an embarrassing answer, it goes viral, it
becomes a national story less than a month before the election. The pitfalls are extreme
if an interview like that doesn't go well for Doug Emhoff.
It's also part of, most podcasts are pre-taped. It's been rare. Most of the stuff that we've done over the
course of 20 years, 98% live. There have been a couple of times where we had an
interview that was either pre-taped before this new era of the show that
people had issues with and we would have conversations with
higher-ups and internally how do we handle this and sometimes the answer, more often
than not the answer is we're not changing this.
I'm sorry you feel that kind of way.
It's a failed attempt by public relations people but they're doing their job too.
This is a bad look, this is not a look that we prefer, let's try to stop it.
It's a delicate balance.
This show's a little bit more unique in that
the standards of the host in particular,
given his journalism chops, as Jess outlined,
we still kind of adhere to that.
And also, it's just also what drives Dan.
He doesn't have to be a conventional journalist
to have those same principles.
And I'm sure there have been people
in the podcast industry that have passed
on these
opportunities because of that.
There's all sorts of rumors that Joe Rogan is going to talk to one or maybe both of the
candidates.
Historically, he hasn't talked to people actually running for the office.
He's talked to politicians before.
He's talked to people that have eventually gotten to run for higher offices but
like legitimate candidates he's kind of stayed away from that in his past. Dan
has been very consistent with that in terms of no you're not gonna tell me
what to ask you know and who to ask and when I'm gonna ask it like he has been
consistent as far as that is concerned. Did I hear you correctly in saying that
the stipulation that Deon Sanders had was you had to call him coach prime
Yes, and you said no to that. Yeah, what he's not my coach
It's a made-up nickname. I just wasn't
willing to do it
But if what separates you from getting Deon on your show or on your podcast or writing an article is you just have to call
Him coach prime that seems pretty benign Well, he made people do that at Jackson State you made journalists do that during his press conferences
Yeah, I'm just saying I take it like I want to get
Well, I understand that but no I had say I'll admit I had second thoughts cuz I would have been a nice guest for my podcast
I know I did have second thoughts, but I just at the time strangest line ever drawn in the sand
What's that? It Just you right there like,
that's too far. That's what I'm saying.
Coach Prime can't do it.
Really want him on my pod.
Wait, I have to call him Coach Prime? Nope.
That's the way I felt.
That's the decision I made at the time.
And really all you have to do is introduce him
as Coach Prime.
Then you don't have to address him
the rest of the time. How is Greg
the ridiculous one in this scenario?
Thank you, Jess.
It's ridiculous to ask someone to call you that.
I'm sorry. Not only to ask, to insist.
It's very silly. As a prerequisite. Yeah, I agreed. I thought it was silly.
I mean, I understand why Greg did it, but I find it ridiculous to not do the interview because you have to call him Coach Prime.
To call him Coach Prime! To me, it's something to have fun with. Like, I'd ask him about it. Like, Coach Prime,
I've been told to call you that. Why do it? Like, as opposed to being like, not doing the interview.
Okay. Right. This is below my standard. You call him Dion and just see how quickly he's gonna hang up. I'm with you, Like, Coach Prime, I've been told to call you that. As opposed to being like, not doing the interview.
This is below my standard.
You call him Dion and just see how quickly
he's gonna hang up.
I'm with you, it's ridiculous,
but to just be like, not doing it is just not the way.
Aren't you the producer?
You could've like,
I don't even remember this.
Suggested this.
It was a while ago.
It was like early,
it was whenever Jackson State was playing
in the Orange Blossom classic,
which was a while ago.
I'm not sure exactly when that would have been.
I wanna ask Mike as the former EP of this show,
if Deion Sanders called in and the stipulation was Dan
had to call him Coach Prine,
your reaction would have been what?
I think, well, are we live?
And I'm finding this information out.
I talked to Dan during one of the breaks. I say, like, this is one of the stipulations. Do you want to make a decision now?
Do you want to make content out of it where we say hey? We've been afforded the opportunity to speak with coach Sanders one of the
Simulations is that we call them coach prime. We've also often crowd-sourced that stuff
Like yeah, do we go ahead and do that? We take a gauge especially on on something that's like, I'm with you, Greg. I think it's a ridiculous thing. But call him Coach Prime and you, Greg, as
much as I love you, are being ridiculous for not taking Deion Sanders because you had to
call him Coach Prime.
Yeah. Keep in mind, this is pre-Colorado Deion Sanders when his-
Now you do it.
I think it's still a thing. I think it's still a thing that he insists. I actually, I thought
you were, initially I was half paying attention. I thought you were talking about something
that's in the news cycle because I've seen journalists talk about this,
this Coach Prime thing.
What I would do is I'd call him Coach Prime initially,
and then just like, see how far I can take it afterwards.
You fire one off, yes.
Just call him Coach and see how that lands.
Just call him Prime, see how that lands.
No, no, you're right.
In retrospect, I could have done that very easily,
and I also could have made content out it out of it by saying why do
you insist on being called coach prime in which case the the interview might
have ended right there but you should have had your demands I'll call you
coach prime you call me and mr. Cody well the difference is with Dan as Mike
alluded to he absolutely would made that content and would have made fun of the
on sanders for doing that. Yeah, yeah.
He might have just challenged Deion within the interview.
Now, your people are telling me,
I have to call you Coach Prime.
Why is that so important?
Dan's a little bit different though
than most podcast hosts for many different reasons.
Greg, are you interested in what would happen in the NFC
if the season ended today?
Oh my God, I've been wondering about that.
Okay, let's go out to Steve Kornhacki.
Wow.
We are back in Kornhacki's corner, Stu Gotz.
And it's time to take a look at the NFC led by VP candidate
Tim Walz's Minnesota Vikings.
They currently have a 93% chance to make the post season
at the end of the schedule.
But right now they'd be the one seed.
Let's take a look at the matchups.
In the hunt, you have the Bears, the Eagles, the Cowboys, and the Seahawks.
The Eagles in the swing state of Pennsylvania at the highest percent chance outside of the
current playoff picture to make the postseason.
But when we look at the matchups, you have the 49ers and the Lions,
two complete teams looking to have a chance to compete
here in the four and five seeds.
Then of course we head up to Washington, DC,
where all of our presidential candidates hope to be
those Washington commanders taking on
Baker Mayfield and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
And then of course a battle of the swing states.
Atlanta's Falcons in Georgia.
And then of course, the Green Bay Packers in Wisconsin.
That's how things are looking over here
in Korn Hackie's corner as the tie adjusts
and we will not see any level of tie come the postseason.
Thank you Korn Hackie.
Kind of an admission to make.
Yeah. I've kind of become a Bucs fan. Because of Baker. Thank you, Korn Hackie. Kind of an admission to make. Yeah.
I've kind of become a Bucks fan.
Because of Baker.
Organically, yeah.
I'm watching them.
Like, any time the games are on TV,
I find myself rooting for them.
He's a gamer, man.
He is.
Did you see him running 50 yards down field,
throwing a lead block?
I love him.
I love him.
I love watching him play.
I cannot believe the Browns are stuck with Deshaun Watson when they had Baker Mayfield.
Like it's amazing.
But he is fun to watch.
You can't believe anything bad that goes,
that happens to that organization though.
The Browns.
Of course, like very few precious organizations
can find a way to blow this up
as badly as the Cleveland Browns did.
They had a quarterback that set rookie passing
records that won a playoff game at Pittsburgh and they pushed him out the door.
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