The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 2: Dan's Tobacco Story

Episode Date: April 6, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Against the spread Against the spread is presented by Draft Kings. Draft Kings. The crown is yours. Roy, what we got? All right, we got Black Hawks at Sharks at the Sharks tonight. Big game for the Sharks. Six straight loss is after a road win for the Blackhawks.
Starting point is 00:00:26 And in this matchup between the Blackhawks and Sharks, the home team has covered the puck line in six straight games. So go over with the Sharks. They need this one. They are the favorites at a goal and a half against Spree. Tony. Go on with the National Championship. tonight, Michigan versus Yukon.
Starting point is 00:00:42 The Wolfrenes are getting minus six and a half. I'm getting them on Draft King Sportsbook. Tony, Jesus, get your shit together today, please. The microphone's right in front of you. Minus six and a half. I'm going to take Michigan against the spread against Yukon who's
Starting point is 00:00:58 getting to the last of their deep breath. Go pose your thoughts. Destiny run. Ends tonight. My boy is rattled. Water. I just can't get a word out. Everybody wants to jump down my throat. Don't be a cuck.
Starting point is 00:01:13 You know I'm not a cuck. That's his gimmick. Michigan minus six and a half against his friend. Thank you, Tony. Appreciate you. No, you don't. No, you don't, by the way. No, you don't.
Starting point is 00:01:28 Not today. You do not appreciate it. Can you get some fresh hair? Appreciate you trying to power through. I didn't say I was going to appreciate you in general. I appreciate that you've tried to power through when clearly you're falling apart. I want to show the video audience something that the audio audience will understand because the swallowing of tobacco is something that is very unpleasant. I have told you guys the story before here of the one and only time that I had chewing tobacco.
Starting point is 00:02:02 I was bothering my father. My father had a bad habit of he just walked through a grocery store and he would just grab things off the shelf. and if he wanted to open them, he would open them, and it was rude and criminal. Bad habit, is that just stealing? If he pays for it, it's not criminal. Well, no, sometimes he would. Sometimes he wouldn't. But one of the things that I was bothering him about for years because he coached me in Little
Starting point is 00:02:29 League Baseball, why are you rubbing your hands together, Roy? I'm waiting for the joke at the end. The punchline is coming up. Well, okay, the punchline is coming up, but this is a real story, and it's a true story, and it's the one and only time that I had chewing tobacco. I don't remember why, but it had to be because Major League Baseball players had huge chaws of tobacco in their mouth. I was bothering my father for a long time about wanting to chew tobacco. And finally, he gets fed up for after years, and while we're walking through a Win Dixie,
Starting point is 00:03:03 he grabs off the shelf a pouch of tobacco and takes a little, bit out of it and sticks it in my mouth, but doesn't explain to me that I got, I can't swallow any of this. Like, doesn't explain to me how it is to do it and then just takes the packet and puts it back in the shelf, not just committing a crime, but also guilty of terrible parenting. But he was just fed up that I was bothering him. So you can imagine how weird it was for him because I was 46 years old. So here is video of Craig Counsel chewing to tobacco poorly. And we've all been here. He's in the dugout and it just gets that gagging, the gagging look. It's embarrassing. Well, you can see the sickness on his face is afterward. Like,
Starting point is 00:03:55 you can see that the nausea hits him fairly immediately. Did he look worse than Tony sounded? I don't think it's possible for anyone to look worse than Tony sounded. Let's update our tournament here. We've finally got our final. finalists. Yukon is back in it. Can you guys look something up for me? When's the last time? It hasn't happened this century, right? That a team has played in three championships and four years in college basketball,
Starting point is 00:04:23 in men's college basketball. That's, I think that maybe Kentucky did that last century, like in the 1900s, not, I think. I'm not, it's a fairly amazing achievement that Dan Hurley is back in this game again with this team. It's just John Wooden territory.
Starting point is 00:04:42 I mean, Three of four years, I think Kentucky did it in the late 1900s, but I don't think it's happened this century. The late 1900s is the 90s. You've got to go with late 1900? Yes, that's what I was doing. Late 1900 sounds like it was longer ago. You could have just said the 90s.
Starting point is 00:05:01 No, but I wanted to make it sound like Adolf Rupp and then boys. I wanted to make it sound like it was in the black and white days when the- could have gone 90s or 20th century, but you went late 1900s. Yes, I did. Yes, that is what I did. That row shouldn't be critiquing anything I'm saying so far today. No, I'm not critiquing. I'm just asking. So our tournament, Illinois is gone. Yukon dragged them pretty good. They were trailing throughout the game. That means that this is now gone from our looks like tournament. Tony Reale looks like the overzealous owner of an Italian restaurant who always greets you at the door with my favorite couple when you walk in. Yukon, if you do not remember, was from the loaded Adam Silver conference.
Starting point is 00:05:45 So this plays for the title tonight. Adam Silver looks like a newly open chapstick. Arizona, can you look up something else for me? Because I believe that Arizona is at taking threes. I'm stunned that Arizona made it as far as Arizona did with that style of play. Because I don't know if you were watching them very much this year. But they took the third fewest threes in the sport. You have to be extraordinarily.
Starting point is 00:06:09 strong, physically strong and athletic to play in today's basketball when there are 340 some odd teams and you take the third, fewest threes of anyone playing Division I college basketball. Jeremy, can you look up for me, please, what the other two teams were that shot fewer threes than Arizona, because I'm sure they're nowhere nothing programs. For Arizona to not shoot any threes is a weird place and way to play today. That means this is now gone from our tournament. Jonathan Zaslow looks like an off-duty mime. And Michigan is favored to win, favored by six and a half tonight.
Starting point is 00:06:47 That means that this is favored to win our tournament. Michael Smith looks like the high school teacher that motivates his students by sitting in a chair backwards. It's a warranted seven and a half point favorite, Michael Smith over that. So it's not gone up to seven and a half? Oh, is it down? Six and a half. Yeah, it's down a little bit. Getting minus six and a half.
Starting point is 00:07:04 We have said several times now that it was minus six. six and a half and you decided to make it getting seven and a half. That's what you decided to do with your microphone time. I mean it was seven and a half yesterday. What do you want for me? It's gone down a little bit. It's a tougher Jeremy to be
Starting point is 00:07:21 the best in the room when he's not speaking. What did I screw up there? What did I say? Well, I think Zaz accused you of saying that Michigan was getting seven and a half. No, he knows who I was talking about. Yeah, that's what he was. Yeah. Don't point back at me.
Starting point is 00:07:37 Don't look at me, you off-duty mind. The story in professional basketball that got more attention than I was expecting this weekend, but I guess when it's LeBron James, everything around him gets a great deal of attention. So he just said, matter-of-factly, as the oldest player in the league who has stopped caring about how some things are received. So he lets it fly a little bit more than people in his position usually. do. He just basically said, let's move the team from Memphis with no appreciation for the basketball tradition and the love of that team that there is in Memphis and just said, let's move it to Nashville. Let's get the Grizzlies out of Memphis and move them to Nashville.
Starting point is 00:08:24 So the first thing I'd like to do is play the sound, the original sound that now has Rich Paul and LeBron James doing some backtracking so that we have the full context. of what the backtracking is because I don't want to change some of the facts here on what the controversy is with a confusion afterward as we try to fix things because one of the things that's happened that I'm sure that LeBron had not accounted for when he was this flippant with this opinion is a whole lot of black people are looking at him and saying LeBron. Like how do you not understand how black Memphis is and that Nashville is less black than Memphis and what you've just done here is just moved a team that has an allegiance and a
Starting point is 00:09:13 tradition in its community to a place that is more whitewashed than Memphis and so here's the original sound from LeBron. I'm saying a fucking hired at 41 years old. You think I want to do that shit being in Memphis on a random-ass Thursday? I'm not like the first guy even talk about in NBA. Like we all like you guys have to move. It's going. Over to Nashville, you got the Vanderbilt over there, you got the Frikan NASCAR, you got a stadium, don't they got a hockey team too?
Starting point is 00:09:43 Yeah, Predators, yeah. Like they got everything. Doesn't look like LeBron's gonna be on the Grizzlies anytime soon, so Grizzly fans out there. Yeah, they know. They're only chances in 2003 if they were won the lottery, and I might have pulled to Eli Manning and not showed up.
Starting point is 00:10:00 That's a guy who left Cleveland and went to the big cities of Miami and L.A. and now has no time for some of these outpost places in the NBA. I wonder what he has to say about Oklahoma City and having to go there on a Tuesday or a Wednesday. They can do something about it. So Zaz, what are your thoughts about that sound before we get to the backtracking? I think it comes off incredibly pretentious. From a fan perspective, me being a fan, thank God this has never happened to me here as a Miami sports fan.
Starting point is 00:10:34 but losing your team is obviously the worst thing that could ever happen to a sports fan. And for LeBron to get out there and to try and stump for the city of Memphis, for Memphis fans to lose their team. By the way, it's not like Nashville is a 15-minute drive. It's several hours away from Memphis. It is not the same market. So to call for a team to lose a city to lose their team because billionaire LeBron doesn't want to stay in a Hyatt? By the way, I don't think what's wrong with a Hyatt?
Starting point is 00:11:05 But because LeBron doesn't want to stay in a Hyatt on a Thursday night, that's his rationale that the team should move out of Memphis. He looks awful saying that. I'm sorry. Now, it should be noted this is a thing amongst NBA players. LeBron mentions that a little bit. I think your issue is not just what he's saying. I'm actually enjoying the rare bit of honesty from LeBron
Starting point is 00:11:29 because a lot of the stuff that said about LeBron is, He's a phony. He's a faker. And I guess he's given people the opportunity to say that because he's kind of backtracking a little bit. But in that moment, he's incredibly honest. I kind of like that side of LeBron. Oh, he's allowed to say that the team should move out of Memphis. And I'm allowed to say he's a dick for wanting a team to move away from the city and a fan base.
Starting point is 00:11:52 Like, it's a lousy thing to say. Can you imagine Patrick Mahomes coming out and saying, Buffalo, boy, the weather, nothing to do there, Bill should move. Like, it's the face of the league. It's the most powerful athlete in our country. Forget about other players are saying the same thing. They're not LeBron. LeBron is saying they should lose their team. Looking for something that gets the adrenaline pumping?
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Starting point is 00:15:24 I've never stepped foot on that campus. If you told me right now, your life depends. on it. Go to Santa Fe University and just take a picture. Stugats. I would die. I don't know where it is. This is the Dan Lebatar Show with the Stugats. This is only the story
Starting point is 00:15:45 that it is because of who's saying it. There's no second place here. Like Steph could say it, other people can say it, but nobody makes it this story, the way that LeBron makes it this particular story. I have not heard the backtrack. So play for me what it is that Mike is saying here, which is he is
Starting point is 00:16:01 now trying to dilute it a little little bit. How people have taken those comments. People have been upset about the fact that Memphis looked at as a team that, you know, by black people in Memphis like, they're like Nashville, for example. So people are not saying like black people? No, you didn't say that. But there were people who were wondering why Memphis was targeted like Milwaukee was too. You didn't miss that one too? They didn't see that? Not as much comment. Oh, yeah, okay. It's in Milwaukee as well.
Starting point is 00:16:35 41 years old. It's two cities I do not like playing in right now. That's Milwaukee and that's me. What is the problem? I don't like going home either. Shit, and I'm from there. What is people who are ridiculous. Just took a shot of Cleveland, too?
Starting point is 00:16:52 A little shot of Cleveland at the end there. So first of all, there's zero self-awareness, apparently, why black people would be upset with what he said there. The optics of him. self-awareness. The optics of him talking about Memphis while playing golf, making a bunch of white guys laugh. And that's the name all the white things that Nashville has. Hockey, F-1. NASCAR. He mentioned it's Vanderbilt. Okay? So there's no, no self-awareness about why black people, and I'm not going to speak for black people. Well, the Vanderbilt on his team is black, though. The
Starting point is 00:17:23 Vanderbilt that he's got on his team is a black guy. Let Zazzlo speak for black people. And then, and then... Go on, Zez. No, I already said I'm not going to speak. for black people. All right. But then you get the whole, I don't like the city of Milwaukee either. I don't like going back to Cleveland. He didn't say move the bucks. He didn't say move the cavaliers. Like he doesn't address at all. He's allowed to not like Memphis. He didn't ask for any of these other cities to lose their basketball teams. So it's like he's out there gaslighting everybody about what they're upset about. Traymond
Starting point is 00:17:55 Green and Anthony Edwards have also ripped Memphis hotels as being dirty and some of the worst in the NBA. But they didn't use that to say they should lose their team because I'm sleeping in dirty hotels. I do think that this is just big city privilege. At this age
Starting point is 00:18:14 this superstar doesn't want to be visiting any of these smaller cities. The infrastructure Memphis is not great if you're an NBA player. I've talked to multiple NBA players that have said the same thing. All right. Spence one night there. Makes $50 million a season to play basketball. Wow.
Starting point is 00:18:30 I got to stay in a Hyatt. I mean, on. Let's listen to Rich Paul. Rich Paul is doing this podcast with Max Kellerman, and I look forward to seeing how Max creatively gets around the fact that Rich Paul can't say certain things
Starting point is 00:18:46 anymore because he's been burned a couple of times. Let's listen to what Rich Paul, LeBron's agent has to say about this. There's people in Memphis that don't want to be in Memphis. There are people in New York who don't want to be in New York. And guess where else LeBron don't
Starting point is 00:19:02 want to be. Akron. Right. He's from there. Yeah. You don't want to be there. He just outgrew it, which is fine. Right.
Starting point is 00:19:08 Again, not even come close to addressing what people are upset about. You have, though, speaking on behalf of black people. I don't know. You are. You did do that. I heard you do it. You're a race war expert, as we have, as we have said before around here. It's not cool.
Starting point is 00:19:22 It's just not cool. It's a loser team because I don't want to sleep on Hyatt. Cooper Flagg over the weekend had 50 points as a 19-year-old. while I want to enjoy the things that are amazing that happen in sports, I also do want to ask you guys because basketball has very
Starting point is 00:19:41 few numbers that matter, and 50 used to be one of them. Is it still? No. It doesn't matter anymore? 60, the new 50. Put it on the poll at Levitard show in basketball is 60 the new 50, and
Starting point is 00:19:59 also give me the other numbers in basketball that matter. please, because if you're going to take that one, I don't know how many more we have. The numbers in sports are something that people, I'm going to say are crunching more than ever. Wouldn't you say there's more numbers crunching going on with fantasy leagues, measurements, arithmetic than you've ever seen happen in sports and basketball, if you take away that number, what's left? What number is left?
Starting point is 00:20:31 Because I am pooh-pooing the performance when I shouldn't be. 19 years old scoring 50 is crazy. Not only that, he had 45 after that. He scored 96 points in a matter of two games. Yeah. But heat fans can rest easy knowing that instead of that, they got the worst beat down in NBA playoff history. That's how the way it works.
Starting point is 00:20:54 That's exactly how it works. That's exactly how it worked out. We've been talking about that for two or three years. It doesn't mean because the heat would have missed the whole. They would have had the same exact pick. That sounds the way it worked. So you're saying it's collusion then. What are you saying?
Starting point is 00:21:04 That's how taking your chance in the lottery works. Sometimes it get lucky. It wasn't the heat's pick. It was the Mavericks pit. Okay, and what happened? Who should have been there? The Mavericks. The Hector!
Starting point is 00:21:17 Amino Hassan is going to join us here to do his weekend observations in the next hour. And one of the corrections that he made of me correctly last week is when I said that the untold series on Netflix is one of the, last places where good sports documentaries are being made. And the correction that he made is not all of them are very good. And he's right because many of them have traded being good. The University of Florida is the greatest example of this. That was a shitty documentary.
Starting point is 00:21:47 And it was made only because they wanted to get access to Urban Meyer and Tim Tebow. And it probably did very well, even though it was a profoundly shitty documentary that whitewashed a whole bunch of stuff that you can't just gloss over if you're trying in any way to get somewhat close to the truth but the one on lamar odom's really good and uh i was not aware of just how dead lamar odom was like how many seizures he had uh the coma how how many heart attacks that he had and uh they get in there and and what chloe cardashian was dealing with, trying to take care of somebody who had descended into the worst kinds of drug addiction. But one of the things that Lamar Odom did just casually that made me laugh during the
Starting point is 00:22:45 documentary, and I didn't think I was going to be laughing when he was talking about infant death syndrome and where it is that it took him. But he's like, no matter your God, whether it's Yahweh, Jehovah, Christ, or Kobe. And the way that he said it was not just charming because he's got the kind of charm that the best drug addicts have, where you want to believe them, you hope to believe them, but they are such drug addicts in his case
Starting point is 00:23:21 that they overdose with gluttony and excess in a way that is just vastly destructive. And I'm telling you guys that this is a documentary worth watching. I don't know if the jailblazers one is worth watching. I do know that everybody was trying to get that documentary, and it ends up getting made for whatever the trades of access have to be made so that you run the risk of telling a more diluted story. Do you guys like this as content?
Starting point is 00:23:56 Your basketball fans. The jailblazer story is something that people have been wanting to tell for 20 years because of how close that team came to winning the championship. They almost knocked out Jehovah in the conference. Those were the conference finals, right? Where the Lakers on the road were down double digits at a time that that meant something, being down double digits. And that team could have won the championship.
Starting point is 00:24:23 even though it was as publicly flawed a team as any that has ever existed in basketball and would have been a deeply unlikable champion because of everything around them. But I am interested in hearing and seeing how bad their behavior actually was or whether it was just weed and technical fouls that got represented in a different time as, that team's out of control. They're smoking so much weed and Rashid can't stop getting technicals. Like, were they out of control? I know that Portland had a problem with them,
Starting point is 00:24:57 but I don't actually know. I don't remember if I was colored by the time and missed some things because I had blind spots about how that team was covered because there was the occasional arrest, but it may have been just because they were black dudes and there was weed and technicals. Yeah, I remember it being a real conflict with the city.
Starting point is 00:25:19 You know, it's one thing to have a team that there's this perception of behavior, drugs, that kind of deal. Usually in a big city, you're not going to really get the fan base to care so much, but from what I remember, like the city of Portland didn't exactly agree with the team that was representing them. I think what's cool about this conversation is that we have two different generations, right? Like Zaz remembered it vividly watching these guys understanding, hey, like something is not right with this team. They're just like crazy and out of control, whatever. And like, at 2000s, Western Conference finals, I would have been nine years old. So I'm watching this as like, oh, Kobe, Shaq,
Starting point is 00:25:53 But then these guys, like, who are these guys? What are they doing? Like, what's the deal? And my dad was like, oh, they call them the jailblazer. I was like, what? But it says trailblazers are on the thing. So it's like watching them and getting to relive and maybe look back with the sensibilities of now towards the past and maybe look and be like, hey, maybe they weren't they?
Starting point is 00:26:07 Maybe that bad. Even back then, there was a generational difference in how it is that that team was absorbed, even in Portland. Like, young, that was a rebellious team. And young people love, man, basketball has done so much with the young rebel who's coming up, whether it's Alan Iverson or someone else that is anti-authority. I don't remember Bonzi Wells being a bad dude, but I remember him having the reputation of being a really bad dude.
Starting point is 00:26:34 And that's not my experience whenever I've interacted with him, but it was public perception. Do you guys have interest in this Lamar Odom's story? Because just the Chloe Kardashian part of it is fascinating. The choices that he made there because he wanted to be somebody in ways. that are, you know, vanaglorious and empty. I'm not sure that I have interest in the Lamar Odom one because I think it's going to make me rightfully so see Lamar Odom in a much different light than I want to remember.
Starting point is 00:27:07 You will not be surprised that he tried cocaine for the first time in Miami. Like I have really fond memories of the one year, believe it or not just one year, but it was highly impactful for a heat fan, the one year that Lamar Odom spent here in Miami in 2004. and like I have really good memories of Lamar Odom. I obviously know from afar the things that he did and went through, and I feel like it's going to make me sad. That's one of the reasons that Mike Ryan expects so much from this heat team. You get Lamar Odom, you polish him up,
Starting point is 00:27:37 and you get Shaquille O'Neal in exchange for Lamar Odom. That seems like a million years ago, the aggressive doing of that. They went 42 and 40 that season. Miami fell in love with that team. Oh, what a team. Forty-two and 40. Back when Pat Riley wasn't afraid to make a deal that hurt a little. bit. And they traded for Shaquille O'Neal. But I am telling everybody listening to this. Untold has
Starting point is 00:27:58 been hit or miss. I don't know if you guys have been following this series. It's a great idea. I stopped following because of the misses. The Florida one was so egregious. There's no consistency with the filmmakers. So you'll have on one side of the spectrum, Marty Fish is untold, which was spectacular and honest. And then you realize that the whole premise can be manipulated, depending on who's telling the story and who's behind making it. And that's what made me go out on the entire concept. Now, this seems having an honest subject is a big part of it. Hey, Roy, buddy.
Starting point is 00:28:31 You know that energy shift when the game gets good and everybody altogether in unison knows to stand up on their feet? Oh, absolutely, Mike. Yeah, you've been at many big-time sporting events. You know that moment quite well. That's what it's like when you take your first sip of Cuervo. Oh, delicious. It's the signal that.
Starting point is 00:28:49 says, we're not checking the time anymore, pal. It's when small talk turns into stories. Quervo, man, it's at high five, a random stranger effect. That's right. The game is popping. You're hugging people you never met before. That's the kind of energy that Quervo brings. It's so smooth, so delicious.
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Starting point is 00:30:56 Stugats. I'm not irrational. You don't hear your voice there? Your voice. If I were making a cartoon thing that was meant to symbolize irrational, that's the voice I would give it. This is the Don Lebatar show with the Stugats.
Starting point is 00:31:12 The fact that they got Lamar Odom and Chloe Kardashian to talk about things It's okay. I'm just going to give you a handful of the details in here that are sort of rich. Lamar Odom is on his deathbed. He is dead. He's been dead for three days. And all of a sudden, out of nowhere, someone who hasn't been in his life for a long time, his father just shows up seeing what's him, what's his? What do I get here? And eventually they have to just run him off because so many people are just, showing up at the hospital. They give him a pair of sneakers and a place to stay for the night.
Starting point is 00:32:01 So he showed up to see what he can get because the sun was dying? Yeah. Hadn't been in his life for a real long time. And then got bought from the storytelling in here for a $100 pair of sneakers and a place to stay for the night where just one of the details here that will take you inside of this. Like generally speaking, right, the reason these documentaries get diluted and become something that isn't the truth when you exchange it for access is because the people involved are ashamed
Starting point is 00:32:33 of something and want to polish it for your perusal. This is not that. You're getting the gory details. Whatever Lamar Odom wants to get from this, it's not because it's not embarrassing to him, and it's not because they're not covering the subject matter that you would be interested in. If that's the case, and I'm into watching it, if it's a sanitized version of Lamar Odom's obviously publicly dirty life, I don't really care about that. Like, I want to see the dirty stuff. It's the dirty stuff. And it is the trade that not very many.
Starting point is 00:33:04 Dirty and rotten. Yeah, dirty and rotten. It's the dirtiest and the most rotten of the things that happen with drug addiction, which we've been talking about a lot lately regarding the Tiger Woods thing. The other thing, and I know you guys talked about this some on Friday, but I am just curious, wherever it is you make your appraisals of human beings with defining acts. Tiger Woods has had a long storied career and he's got an awfully complicated life off of the course in terms of how people receive him.
Starting point is 00:33:39 And as Mike Ryan pointed out last week, as he goes through this very human frailty, there are a whole lot of people who are rooting for him, who are trying to support him despite his demons. But I will tell you that I found it wildly off-putting to see a video of him with the police, just saying, yeah, on the phone with the president. Like, just so unnecessary. And it reminded me of Stugats telling the story of,
Starting point is 00:34:15 on the air very early in our days doing this, saying, I've got a dinner with Dan Marino, there's no other way of saying that. I'm like, you could have just said you had a dinner. And in this particular case, what was he trying to do? He was trying to get away with it. He was trying to get out of it. Yeah, he was trying to get out of it. Really simple.
Starting point is 00:34:33 And you can kind of tell from like the body cam also, like, it is. It may be reckless, but made the point, a lot of people, especially in that area, huge Tiger fans, rooting for Tiger. And this was not one that he could get away with. I mean, Tiger Woods has the kind of charm that would lead me to believe, like him being Tiger Woods has gotten out of him, you know, sticky situation occasionally. But that's not only not charming. When being Tiger Woods isn't good enough that you have to say to try and get away with it, that you're on the phone with the president?
Starting point is 00:35:06 That's what I'm saying. He flipped the vehicle in a residential neighborhood. You can kind of tell, like from the video, the cops were like, you can't get away with this. But you're calling, you're calling Donald Trump. in order in that moment to tell the police to not arrest you? If you're desperate, then you have direct access. But how is that?
Starting point is 00:35:27 Remember, he is dating a Trump. Yeah, he stayed in a former. I can see in a sticky spot or I call my father-in-law. I'm just saying like, you know. He's not. Donald Trump's former daughter-in-law. Yeah, I'm not surprised. In fact, when this first broke, I was like, I'm surprised Tiger didn't do that.
Starting point is 00:35:43 I was actually giving him credit for avoiding that. And then like, damn it. And then like, it was like the first. first thing you did. Let's watch this. Take it. I just keep you down here with us, please. Yeah, I was talking to the president. That hand flip is the most egregious thing to be.
Starting point is 00:35:59 I'm just this like, I'm just no big deal here. I was talking to the president, but you can't hand the phone over the police officer? Like, what? He'd already finished talking to him. He doesn't even want his phone. He's just like, because apparently at the start of this video, he's way down there. It's just like, hey, you got to be down here near us. that is ugly in a way that Chris is saying it's just the hand gesture that the hand gesture is dismissive but you do realize that Tiger Woods and LeBron James these people live in a galaxy that's unlike any of the galaxies I mean we do know this unlike the galaxies that we live in so that being in Memphis on a Thursday is something that you do not wish to do with your stardom and having to deal with
Starting point is 00:36:45 police officers applying rules to you and your reckless life is not something that you wish to deal with when making a call to the President of the United States. That makes me think that what he was trying to do there, he's trying to show me something and I'm having the opposite feeling on whatever it is that he thinks he was trying to accomplish there. It's the exact opposite. it. Mike, when are you and Tony leaving for Talladega? What are the details of this trip? Are you going to be in an RV? And what do you think is going to happen with Tony in Talladega? So last year, I went to Talladega for the first time. It's one of the greatest sporting things I've ever done.
Starting point is 00:37:28 And this year, Cuervo is sending me and Tony along with my friends. And we've added to the crew, Dan. Of course, you know, you have NASCAR. Nate, that's going. College. Mike is going. Eagle Eye is going. And of course, the watermelon man is going to be there as well. Tony is now joining this illustrious crew. We've gotten a big RV. A beautiful one, by the way. It's a rambler. You show me the video looks incredible.
Starting point is 00:37:53 Talk about a rambler. Palatial. And D.K.'s hooking it up. I just got final word. It looks like we got a slip on the back stretch. And now all we need is the quervo to have ourselves an incredible time. And I am so ready for Tony. Who does not like NASCAR one bit?
Starting point is 00:38:08 He's not an NASCAR guy. Not an ASCAR guy as yet. It's not part of his sports repertoire. But I cannot wait to introduce Tony, a very Miami dude with no real sense of what's going on with the left turns into Talladega. That's swimming in the deep end, folks. Taladega, Tony, I'm ready. We're going to go and dominate, Dan. Are you guys all staying in the RV?
Starting point is 00:38:28 Yeah, yeah, yeah. How many people are... How many does it happen? It's going to be Eagle Eye. NASCAR Nate. College Mike. 10-day Tony. myself and the
Starting point is 00:38:39 War of the Middleman. Roy, you're laughing at me for using cabin as a verb there, but an RV houses? What is it? Sleep? Just stay there. The Rambler. Everybody's got a bed. Including the Warmer Middle Man. Some cots? No, no, no, cots. God, no. Cots. How many
Starting point is 00:38:56 does the RV sleep? I want to hear more about the RV. A dozen. It could sleep up to nine. We don't have that. As you know, like, and that includes. Myself, 10-day Tony Nascar Nate College Mike NASCAR Nate
Starting point is 00:39:10 And the water Can I come Which parts are you looking forward Taladaika Boulevard Dan It's a special party I once went to Talladega Boulevard Well I've only gone once And I tried to pay with cash
Starting point is 00:39:25 And they said we don't do that around here I'm like what Como what? No we're not allowed to actually charge you You just pay whatever you want It's kind of like a barter system What There is like seven lines
Starting point is 00:39:37 music stages that are all built that week. There was an open air gentleman's club. There's a sports bar in which you pay them 50 bucks and you get NHL playoff hockey on. It is the best party in NASCAR. And I cannot wait to go with Eagle Eye. NASCAR Nate. Who else? College Mike. Ten day, Tony, the watermelon man. Tony, you learned the song yet? Talladega. There you go. You're going to hear that 35 times a day. It's all in the infield. right? That's where the party is. The infield at Talladega, people have no idea. Like, you can fit like 17 Magic Kingdoms inside the infield at Talladega. There's no way. You're lying on me. It's
Starting point is 00:40:18 huge. Including? You're going to see. You, when we walk around and we take the walk from the RV, it's going to be you. It's going to be NASCAR and Nate. Who else? It's going to be Eagle Eye. It's going to be me. It's going to be College Mike. And leading the charge, it's going to be the water middle of mine. I'd like to go back for a second because I don't believe that we or the country at large is talking enough about either Joe Adele or the minor league center fielder who had a home run go off of his forehead. I will again point out the impossible to improbable physics of having a ball at an angle hit you on the forehead. I'm going to say this again, okay? Just without the audio audience being able to see the video, I'm going to.
Starting point is 00:41:07 to say, do you think it's possible for a human being who is 20 feet from the warning track to have a fly ball hit his forehead at an angle that makes it go over the center field fence? Could you guys, if I had said to you, all of you without showing you this video, do you believe it is possible that I can ever, in the history of baseball or video,
Starting point is 00:41:32 show you a video that hits a center fielder on the fourth, forehead 10 to 20 feet from the warning track and goes over the fence, would you have said, yes, it's possible that you have a real video that is not AI doctored? Why didn't you just catch it? It's amazing. There's so many parts of this video. One, how high the fence. It's a 15-foot fence.
Starting point is 00:41:55 That might be the craziest part about this is how high the fence is. Because people just listening to this are thinking of like the Fenway Park. Like a little bit of a little wall. It's closer to be in the green monster than it is the other side of that. green monster than it is a small wall. And another thing we're not talking about is how much pain the center fielder is in. Because I feel like the Konseko one, he doesn't even feel it, no big deal. This guy holds his head is in extreme pain.
Starting point is 00:42:22 And no one's checking in on him. Is he okay? Do me a favor, Chris. Tell the guest bookers right now to get me that center field. Look at him. Okay. He's in real pain. Tell the guest bookers right now.
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