The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 2: Don't Look Now

Episode Date: February 27, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:40 DraftKings, the crown is yours. We only have an hour left and a postgame show to hunt down Jordan Schultz, a friend of the show, on a verbally accosting Ian Rapaport at a Starbucks in Indianapolis. We need more information on that story. All of us are interested in what the accosting consisted of. And now all the nerds at the NFL
Starting point is 00:01:03 are all like posted pictures of the Starbucks They're like I'm doing an investigative work here. Like oh, I'm gonna get down to the bottom of the other all like I'm an indie, too Look, I'm at the Starbucks I'm so jealous of them. I want to be there. Do you have you ever been? No, I've never been in the combine, but I watch it on TV every year everyone that goes as its one It's it's all about what happens after hours, right? Yeah, the drinking. Exactly. Or I like to drink. Well, I believe this story,
Starting point is 00:01:29 the Jordan Schultz, Ian Rappaport story was broken by PFT from Pardon My Take. I believe he was the one, isn't that the one that ended up spreading? I saw the story that Florio wrote initially, but it may have been the other PFT. All right, well let's find out whether it was the real fake or real or the fake PFT that broke the story of the combine.
Starting point is 00:01:53 We are primed for a great fine here for Dan if it's the actual PFT. What is it about media fights that makes this something that everyone is interested in? When I told you yesterday that some of the news that came out of the scouting combine, because the information people are gathering with the football people, this is a partial list
Starting point is 00:02:12 of the news that came out yesterday, that Jamar Chase is gonna be the highest paid non-quarterback in the league. This turned out to be refuted that Gronk was making a comeback. Gronk is denying that, but the Raiders might trade up for Cam Ward. Is this Don't Look Now?
Starting point is 00:02:27 What's happening right now? The Eagles, the Eagles were gonna try and get in on Miles Garrett. Is Don't Look Now? Hey, are you looking pal? Stop looking. Are you looking? You gotta stop looking.
Starting point is 00:02:37 I didn't know that Don't Look Now was just football information. No, Don't Look Now is mostly football information. At least that's how it's been grandfathered in. And if you're trying to jump in and talk right now as an ensemble cast, know that I cannot see you whatsoever. I guess we're doing don't look now even though that's not what I thought we were doing. We're all not looking but Dan still is.
Starting point is 00:02:55 Okay I will stop looking. Just waiting for Chris to hit the music. No that's good there's no music. There's no music. Yeah. Alright you tell me when to go. Go ahead. Why don't you just hit the Duval sound.
Starting point is 00:03:04 Are you looking? No. Alright no You tell me when to go. Go ahead. Why don't you just hit the Duval sound? Are you looking? No. All right. No one look me in the eye. The Dan. This is very easy for you because your eyes aren't showing. Don't look now. But there is all sorts of confusion as to what's going to happen with the number one pick. Abdul Carter may have to get surgery now. Now there was all sorts of whispers and smoke rumor and innuendo out of the combine that he was positioned to be the number one pick,
Starting point is 00:03:28 especially when you saw the lingerie news. But now with this injury and potential surgery, don't look now. But Cam Ward may actually be the number one pick. Wow. Confirmant. That's a good look, that's a good don't look now. Dan, what would you do with this number one pick
Starting point is 00:03:44 because this is one of the more complicated number one picks that I can ever remember. There's no consensus number one. It's not a great quarterback class, but we can all agree that Cam Ward is a top it. I know you're a big Cam Ward guy. You have a unicorn that can play on both sides of the ball and you have a prototypical number 11
Starting point is 00:04:01 from Penn State pass rusher. Those always seem to work out. Answer while not looking. Isn't it a bad draft? I mean the top 10 is good but doesn't it then get weak after that? There's no such thing except for that one time 2018. But other than that there's no such thing. Well bad quarterback draft no doubt. I thought it was a bad draft in general. Did I not hear Adam Schefter say the other day that what you get at number 10 is usually what you'd get at number 35? Isn't that what I just heard Adam Schefter say?
Starting point is 00:04:29 Don't look now, but Mike isn't talking into the mic. Don't look now. But Andy Dalton has resigned with the Carolina Panthers. And it's a nice insurance policy behind Bryce Young. But do we have confidence that the Bryce Young that we saw at the tail end of the season is a real Bryce Young? I mean I like this as an insurance policy no doubt guys, but I'm curious to hear your thoughts.
Starting point is 00:04:51 Is it okay if I check my watch while Mike is talking since he can't look now? Well he's off Mike and he's looking in the wrong place. Well I can hear so I'm sorry thank you for correcting. Don't Look Now it's presented by Smirnoff, the world's number one vodka. Please drink responsibly. Don't Look Now, but Eric Bedard has been on like 40 line combinations for the Chicago Blackhawks. I'm pretty certain he may not be good anymore.
Starting point is 00:05:12 I'm not gonna look at that, but I do wanna look at the draft thing. Did I call him Eric Bedard? You did. Oh, it's Connor Bedard. Oh, I'm sorry, it's a Canadian thing. I've done that too. Thought you were doing like a Lady Gaga bit,
Starting point is 00:05:24 so I just kinda let go. 2013 thought you were doing like a Lady Gaga bit, so I just kind of let it go. 2013 was the draft of the last two decades that is considered not the best, not the best. This one maybe, but I'm not looking. Don't look now, but Anthony Richardson and the Indianapolis Colts may be headed for a breakup. The GM was noncommittal, and Kevin Clark had a report today from the Combine.
Starting point is 00:05:45 Had a report today from the Combine that they may not be able to fix these issues between these two. Anthony Richardson has played like what? College and Pro, 20 total starts? How many total starts does Anthony Richardson has before? Don't look now! I'm not going to look, but I am going to look at my texts because PFT Commenter confirmed he did break the story. Oh wow!
Starting point is 00:06:08 Damn was right. Thank you, one of my three favorite words. Don't look now, but there is a- I think we got it, Mike, thank you. We're gonna have a bit. Yeah, we do have it. Let's check in with some podcasts. Aaron Rodgers might be going to the New York Giants.
Starting point is 00:06:23 Don't listen now either. Let's go to some podcaster on podcaster crime here. We've got two very good podcasts that may or may not be feuding with each other. It is what it is with Cam and Mace and you've got Shannon Sharp and Ocho Cinco have nightcap and so let's play the sound of Cameron going after Ocho Cinco in acap. And so let's play the sound of Cameron going after Ocho Cinco in a way that caught some people off guard yesterday.
Starting point is 00:06:49 I don't really f*** with Chad Ocho Cinco to be totally honest with you. He aight, but at the end of the day, when we started this show, the n***a was hatin' from the very beginning. We started the show, we was doing very well, it was very successful, we didn't have no deal, no sponsors or nothing, we was doing this off the muscle.
Starting point is 00:07:05 He comes out of nowhere talking about, yeah, I'm gonna get myself back together and I'm taking Cam's spot. Why the fuck you gotta take my spot? Fuckers, you talking about, you been a football player your whole life, now because I'm doing sports, you come take my spot, and at that particular time, we had only been doing the show about two and a half months,
Starting point is 00:07:23 three months, but that's how much of an impact that I had that that felt threatened, you know what I'm saying? Then after that, we tried to call him, shout to my Bob, my Bob knows some Latino. I tried to give him a job. He like, yo, talk to my agent. I said, I'm talking to you now. I don't do business like that, talk to my agent.
Starting point is 00:07:42 See, you so dumb, you can't even speak for yourself, stupid. I tried to offer you. See, you so dumb, you can't even speak for yourself, stupid. I tried to offer you more paper than you probably get now. Ask Mark Jackson how he got paid. Ask Mike Irvin how much he got paid. Ask them if they was living lovely off the checks Mia Murder was sending them.
Starting point is 00:07:57 Ask them. I bet you you ain't getting paid the money that Mark Jackson and Mike Irvin got paid working with us. I don't know this for a fact, but ask Mike Irvin and ask Mark Jackson that they get paid lovely. And if I threaten a bitch like you, this is why you going to do the shit you doing.
Starting point is 00:08:14 Telling Stephen A about getting your piece of shit. Yo, I don't like you, I don't like you. I don't like your con. Your whole style is made and I don't like you. I don't like the con. Your whole style is made and I don't with you. That was what do you mean by that? That was smoke. That's a bad one. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:08:42 We don't have enough beef surround here. We only do Gary Furman. It's the beef. God forbid! That's legitimate beef. Is that why you try to make us beef with each other all the time? Yeah, that's what he wants.
Starting point is 00:08:54 You love beef. I don't need to make you guys beef. You guys beef naturally. Yesterday's my note taking was interrupted by Jeremy, who's the nicest among us, shouting at Fuentes, you're a short sightsighted moron. That's right, I was also talking about Mike, this Mike. So much popcorn on my back right now.
Starting point is 00:09:10 Don't look now. Is this Dan's special popcorn? It is not. Oh. Wow. What? How dare you, how dare? Chris has so much popcorn in his hood.
Starting point is 00:09:23 Burn, oh shit. Let me put my hood on and see how this goes. How dare you accuse How dare? Chris has so much popcorn in his hood. Burn. Oh shit. Let me put my hood on and see how this goes. How dare you accuse me blasphemously of producing that particular popcorn? You'd know it was mine. It would be sprinkled with all sorts of mysteries and magic. I can't eat popcorn this early in the. No popcorn.
Starting point is 00:09:39 You can't? Mike, get away from the computer, please. Yeah, Mike, Mike, just just you're all tangled up here. Nope, it's not time for a good song. ["Spring Day"] Turn it up. ["Spring Day"] What, what, what, what, what?
Starting point is 00:09:55 What? Mike, you can look now. Oh, shit, what's happening? Oh, shit, what's happening? You're here. Here is something you like to call Strollman. Strollman. He's that guy. Here is something that you call a special combination. Get back!
Starting point is 00:10:05 He's that guy! Mike, get back in your place, man. You're just fouling up everything with your don't look up thing. You were supposed to tell him he could, that's don't look now. Were we supposed to release him from don't look now? I don't know how this bit works.
Starting point is 00:10:21 I don't know what it is. I have no other cues to take. You're gonna have to say it. Just that interview with the vampire. What do you mean? We have to release you Hi release you Can you guys tell me whether or not you met yesterday's news of the NFL PA? Polling of franchises that treat their employees best with a yawn when we celebrated it when the Dolphins were winning and Mike McDaniel was turning things around.
Starting point is 00:10:47 But when you get the reports that yesterday, for the second year in a row, the Vikings and the Dolphins are the two teams that treat their employees best. It felt like a more charming story when everyone liked a little bit more what Mike McDaniel and the Dolphins were doing. Now they're under some pressure and heat
Starting point is 00:11:04 and it lands as if like maybe he needs to treat the employees a little bit more what Mike McDaniel and the Dolphins were doing. Now they're under some pressure and heat and it lands as if like maybe he needs to treat the employees a little bit worse. I mean, yeah, the flip side is the Chiefs having like low ratings and ownership for the last couple years, but they've won several Super Bowls and been in three back-to-back-to-back. They like Andy Reid. What's funny about Andy Reid and the Chiefs is that overall as an organization, the Chiefs get very bad grades, grades that are comparable to Woody Johnson's, but everyone loves Andy Reid. So they're putting all of the fault elsewhere, none of the responsibility on the guy who's responsible for creating the culture.
Starting point is 00:11:37 This is like Ian Carmel, the comedian, he has a stand-up special that's out now and in it he talks about all the countries that gave us the best dumplings also have a history of fascism So the same thing it's like all the organizations that give us great traditions of winning Also treat their employees like shit. Maybe that's maybe that's a pre-wreck. Who knows really you guys you guys think that that You guys are gonna do correlation causation. What are you guys gonna do with the idea of because Belichick? What are you guys gonna do with the idea of because Belichick notoriously darkness It was dark and cold everything Patriots was dark and cold. You're gonna make a link I guess I could probably do it in football Maybe I can make a link between the amount of discipline the amount of you know
Starting point is 00:12:18 Iron fist that the players are are getting but I would assume that most players Wouldn't like to play under, you know, conditions that make it so that Woody Johnson is getting an F, or we're talking about just amenities that feel minor league in some of the instances. Some of the, in some of the instances, the employees are saying, this doesn't feel like it's professional, it doesn't feel like it's major league,
Starting point is 00:12:44 it doesn't feel like I'm at the top of my business. You know, it's weird, Dan, because I've often thought about organizations that have a lot of resources tend not to operate as efficiently. And it's terrible, because I hated working for an organization that was cheap and cut corners at every single turn. But I also recognize recognize on some level,
Starting point is 00:13:05 man, they made us really, really good at like squeezing every last drop of blood out of a stone. Right? And I think there is like a balance between you gotta give people the tools to do their job, make an environment that's healthy, while at the same time, not maybe not lavish people with greatness because at the end of the day, we're talking while at the same time, maybe not lavish people
Starting point is 00:13:25 with greatness, because at the end of the day, we're talking about paying the ultimate price, right? The ultimate price is you miss Christmas, you miss Thanksgiving, you miss holidays, you miss birthdays. I remember there was a general manager told me, I said, he's a guy who had a lot of kids, and I said, how do you manage it?
Starting point is 00:13:42 And he said, honestly, one of the things we do is that we don't have anniversary dates, we have like weeks. So at any point in this general vicinity, we're going to celebrate this. It's not gonna be on that particular day because otherwise, if we're staying hard and fast with the day, honey, this is our wedding anniversary,
Starting point is 00:14:01 honey, this is your birthday, whatever, then I'm gonna miss a lot of them. I'm shocked by what Amin is saying. He is basically saying that in order to win, you've got a better chance of winning in sports if you're an asshole to your employee. That's what he's saying. That is what you're saying.
Starting point is 00:14:16 More than that then, much more dastardly than that. You have a better chance of winning if you're an asshole to your family. Like if you are not a good spouse, not saying like, oh, carousing and stuff, I'm saying like inattentive and like you're so ingrained and focused on this right here that it makes you not very supportive.
Starting point is 00:14:36 You missed a kid's play, you missed this or whatever. That's probably gonna land towards success. And so- I'm gonna text my wife this clip. So if this is, right, if that's your starting point, if you're like Bill Belichick and say, I don't do birthdays, I don't do anniversaries, this is the life, right?
Starting point is 00:14:50 This is the life I chose. It's easy for him to say that, but then the rest of the organization follows suit. I remember a long time ago, someone, I worked with the sons, they said, look around. Everybody here is married. And he said, you know what that that is I said well No, I said because Jerry's married now
Starting point is 00:15:09 There was another organization at the time where the guy at the top was not married and you said you could go through the whole front Office none of those guys are married because the thing is you can't say well It's my wife's whatever when everyone else is like well. we're here, we're working, that's the ultimate prize for talking about. I think anywhere I find competitive people and excellence, I'm going to find a lack of general balance. I think I'm gonna find a whole bunch of people who are lopsided. It is very difficult to compete against everybody
Starting point is 00:15:38 who's super competitive at being excellent when they're doing things that give them life balance and you're consumed by your job every day. But I'm talking about two different things there. I'm not talking about life balance. You're actively saying, you're saying that there is a link. I'm going to win more if my employees have to make sacrifices that make them feel unappreciated in their environment because say the amenities in the kitchen are less than the Dolphins or the Vikings have.
Starting point is 00:16:12 I'm saying that the things that we call a bad place to work. Sometimes it's, oh my God, my boss treats me like shit. And then sometimes it's just, oh, we didn't have Thanksgiving day Thanksgiving day off and I'm like, yeah because we're playing on that day That's why we didn't have it off and and if you're going to be someone who holds on to those things because a regular person a normal person does have those Flexibilities it would make for a shitty place to work, but also, in the words of Paul Abdul, maybe this isn't the place for you. Well this is also why sports is such a different thing
Starting point is 00:16:51 than so many other industries, because ultimately most of the most successful individuals that we've ever seen in sports are also giant assholes. Michael Jordan is not necessarily known as this kumbaya, super cool to hang out with type of guy. He's also someone who had to be pretty miserable through the experience of being one of the greatest in the world, because even though you're being
Starting point is 00:17:13 lavished with praise and money, we've seen all the videos that came out in the last dance and otherwise where he's talking about how miserable it is to be Michael Jordan. So this is whether it's organizationally or individually, you're dealing with people who if they're that competitive to be the very greatest are probably also kind of assholes. So in a weird way, this conversation ties together
Starting point is 00:17:34 this whole show today because Michael Kosta tells us about that misery of rooting against someone's success, right, Timothy Chalamet talking about, I want to win this, I want to be known as one of the greats and that place all coming together, right behind Jeremy is a cardboard cutout of Pat Riley. It's cardboard? No, it's a statue, excuse me.
Starting point is 00:17:58 Pat Riley, I remember talking, these years and years ago, the video coordinators in Miami, where I was like, hey, you go go out. It's like, no, I gotta get back because Pat calls the office line in the video room at six in the morning to make sure they're in there. And I said, but it's August. He says, it doesn't matter, right?
Starting point is 00:18:17 If that is your workplace, Dan, does that sound like a great, like a cool place to work, great work-life balance? No, no. But, but if I ask you, any organization in this league, regardless of the talent on the court, the way they run it, who runs the most championship culture organization
Starting point is 00:18:37 in this league, you'd point to the man behind Jeremy right now. Well, but this is the thing though that I, later in life, okay, as I have spent a lot of time examining where it is that I've been competitive and discarded some of the things later in life that I think I had backwards on how competitive I should be. I have talked to so many athletes and coaches and a regret I hear all the time is I wish I'd enjoyed it more while I was doing it because winning. You're saying the worse I treat the employees, the better off I am as a team,
Starting point is 00:19:28 the more likely I am to have success. You're making it a correlation. You're making it causation. I'm not saying that. I'm saying many of the things that make you successful would be to normal people unacceptable as a work environment. And I would argue that that might be shifting.
Starting point is 00:19:46 That's the history of this. That's the history of this because those types of things and how you motivate an individual that you need to succeed is generally changing. We've seen it with some of the entitlement, for lack of a better word, that we talk about with some of these young individual stars. How do you motivate the people in your workplace?
Starting point is 00:20:06 That's shifting obviously in workplaces like this and elsewhere, but in the sports avenue, it is shifting ever so slightly, and that's why when you find guys like Cooper Flag that we talk about as these competitive asshole maniacs, everyone salivates over them because that mold of person is also shifting. Let me ask you guys this as it relates to our environment because we've been talking about for a couple of weeks here
Starting point is 00:20:31 I thought you guys wanted a loose rain I think most people listening to this would think that they would want to work in this environment But this environment has a general lack of consequences. I'll give you one example, okay? I've been saying for I don't know how many years now that I would like people to wear costumes and- Oh, you don't mind this environment? Well, I'm talking now about this environment. Yeah, I'm talking now about what makes people successful
Starting point is 00:20:57 and an absence of consequences. I assume that if tomorrow, and this would be funny, it would be a funny way, If I fired somebody for the first time and the reason was not wearing a costume, I imagine that then people would then wear their costumes and the audience would get the payoff from the grid of death punishment. If-
Starting point is 00:21:16 God forbid! But- I also imagine a lot of people wouldn't wanna work here. Agreed, but it would be better. It would be better as a show if we got the costume. That's my point. It would be better as a show if we got a costume, but let go of an employee.
Starting point is 00:21:33 It doesn't matter if Chris Cody's kid has health insurance anymore. You should have just dressed up that day. That is correct, but the show would be better. To a mean's point. It would not be better if we lost Chris Cody. No, the show would be better if that day Chris Cote. No, the show would be better if that day, costumes were worn and then the show would get better
Starting point is 00:21:48 every time costumes are worn. I'm saying that a means point on this one would be, yes, people would like to work here less, but you might get a better result on consequences and accountability because we do have those problems here. They're legion. What's the price you wanna pay? That's what it comesion. What's the price you want to pay? That's what it comes down to.
Starting point is 00:22:06 What price are you willing to pay? And ultimately, I'm talking for sports, I don't know from a media company because I don't even know what wins or losses are. It's the argument to have is, do you get better results from your employees if you make it a nice, comfortable place to work, or if you make it an uncomfortable place to work and your results oriented that it's
Starting point is 00:22:29 I know Jessica I understand what you're saying it's the environment that I've pledged myself to but I'm comfortable and nice do you think the environment is like maybe there shouldn't be a conversation for on-air but I would argue that you think it's a lot more comfortable and nice from your vantage point than a lot of us do from ours But when it comes to costumes, this one's pretty simple like that I'll give you a costume. Well, don't you worry Dan? We have a plan in place for costumes every other week Did you get to football? Did you ask for anything yesterday?
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Starting point is 00:24:53 US population. 5G speeds not available in all areas. Don Lebatard. I don't like smelly either. Stugats! Women stay home in the kitchen where they belong! This is the Don Lebatard Show with the Stugats! Are you saying don't look now but costumes are coming. Is that what's being alleged for the first time now costumes are coming? By the way, I just want to point out something for the audio listeners that in the middle of this very serious conversation we had, Mike started looking behind Pat Riley because he wanted to see if there was a Steve Kerr statue behind him.
Starting point is 00:25:42 We cut away from it right when he got to it. You want to ruin the show with this already? Oh my God. We only have like 15 minutes left. You want to get into it? Legitimately loud, cause he put on the don't look now blindfold. Just started bumping around back there.
Starting point is 00:25:55 Lewis just said maybe, Lewis just said in my ear, maybe set up the bit correctly. Also hostile work environment. That's just the commentary that I just got in my ear. Maybe some accountability. You got preview screens, pal. I heard what Amin said, and I wonder, I know that the audience, you've heard me say before,
Starting point is 00:26:15 sports fans want their team to be run by the boss they themselves would not like to have. And Amin is telling you that basically the more miserable the work environment, the more likely I am to get the results that I want in sports. I'm not saying that. I'm saying some of the things that will be asked of you, many people would consider to be miserable. Now, I worked for Steve Kerr in Phoenix.
Starting point is 00:26:44 Steve Kerr is not a taskmaster, right? He is a people person, he's a great motivator, great leader, and as a result, I worked a lot. I worked like 15 hour days and I never complained about it and I worked every single day. I think there was a stretch of like, I wanna say 800 days in a row I came to work in one shape or form or fashion it wasn't because
Starting point is 00:27:05 Steve Kerr is like you'll get fired if you don't but it is because I understood it to be this is the cost of doing this right this you want to be a part of this thing and you want this thing to be successful this is what is expected of you now I'm like this is great I work with Steve Kerr I work with Alvin Gentry and David Griffin, all these great people, and Steve Nash and Grant Hill. I'm living my dream. But I know I could, holy shit, scare the shit out of me. It would be better if he didn't interrupt you
Starting point is 00:27:36 while you were talking, but continue. It could have hit Dan first. The- But you can't see, so. Oh, that's true, that's a good point. Don't look now. But the- Is he still tied to the headset in the other room?
Starting point is 00:27:46 How long ago is that word? That cord is gonna break and hit someone in the head. Like, that cord cannot be this long that it allows him to be stuck to things. Is it still interfering with your board over there? You don't get the show. Is it still knocking over buttons and stuff? You were saying
Starting point is 00:28:06 what I was saying was then as I described that life to people I know there are plenty of people who are like that's ridiculous what do you mean 800 days in a row what do you mean 15 hour days what do you mean and they can't accept that it's like I would hate working there. ["Tony Music"] It doesn't make sense that he would be standing over there and knocking over the Tony music, I don't think. It is time now for a weekly update on our favorite team. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:28:39 How deep are we digging for these sounds? Because some of these sounds I've not heard in years. White woman. Cannonball. All right, we need to stop doing that. It's long past annoying. Mike, you need to look now. Yeah, you need to.
Starting point is 00:28:58 I release. The golden helmet of life. Are we going to get Jordan Schultz? Because he was a friend of the show and now he's running away He told Monday That's a little late. Yeah, we don't really Monday. I'd better be an exclusive Everyone's gonna have fed at that particular trough by Monday. Well, that's not gonna do us any good to be fair He's at the combine. So it's a little harder for him to to like get loose in order to do a hit.
Starting point is 00:29:25 But yes, I'm with you guys. That would suck if you gave it to PFT, for example, who is there. Maybe we should have someone there. Jessica, how fast can you get to the combine? I can get you Charles McDonald right now. Jessica, you articulating an envy that everyone is at St. Elmo's in Indianapolis
Starting point is 00:29:43 at an event that, what is the fun that you're getting off of this event that I'm not seeing? Is it just being around the whiff of football? I'm just getting FOMO, I'm getting text messages all night with updates on this silly story, and I wish I was there to gossip about it in person. Do all of you wish that you were there?
Starting point is 00:30:00 The scouting combine is something that fills you with yearning and oogling. Also, I want to see O'Limon on Sunday. I'd like to go once. That'd be cool. Check out the scene. The reality, Dan, is that they go out and they get hammered every night. And it's a very collegial atmosphere. We have all of these people. We all cover the same sport, we all know, it's kinda like their version of Summer League, I guess.
Starting point is 00:30:28 You go out and you drink every night, basically. The thing that, when did Armstead, Teron Armstead, the Dolphins left tackle, when did he run at the combine? Was it, would've been, I guess, probably 10 or 11 years ago. I don't know what his height and weight is, but he ran a 471, which I
Starting point is 00:30:46 think remains the fastest time an offensive lineman has ever run at the combine. He is listed at 6'5", 304 pounds. The scouting combine produces a lot of athletic freak numbers. Was it worthy who had the fastest 40 time in the history of the combine? Because these guys have gotten so good at the mechanics of running the 40 well or testing well, whether it has anything to do with football or not.
Starting point is 00:31:19 4.21 seconds was that record, but this was just brought up. Did you guys see Pac-Man Jones with McAfee the other day? Pac-Man's almost 40 years old. He ran like a four, five, 40. Four, five, one, I wanna say. That's insane for a 40-year-old who has been through that sport and had the beatings that he's had
Starting point is 00:31:41 to be able to just get up and say, yeah, I can run almost a four, four, four. From the numbers that we just discussed, I don't know if the most stunning thing in any of the numbers is the fact that the fastest combine time ever is Worthy's and that half a second later is when Armstead finishes the 40 yard dash as a left tackle.
Starting point is 00:32:04 That the difference in speed between the fastest guy in the sport and the fastest guy testing at the combine and a left tackle is half of a second. I mean, a half a second is like an hour at the 40 yard dash, but. You think that any of us could come within a half second of 471 of what Armstead is running? Like to hear an offensive lineman at 471
Starting point is 00:32:29 is a total insanity. By the way, he also has a 34 and a half inch vertical jump. That is kind of insane for an offensive lineman. Can we play the sound, please, of Mike McDaniel talking this week about what it is that the Dolphins need? Because the idea that the Dolphins need because the idea that the Dolphins are still after I've spent this entire set this entire century
Starting point is 00:32:50 listening to the Dolphins talk about how they have to improve along the offensive line. I'm excited because I think we have a tangible opportunity to improve and that starts in free agency with a couple of guys that we have targeted that we, you know, you think that you can get a deal done with them. And that continues into the draft. I think this is a very, it's a very good time to have some need and we have, it's time for us to invest in that position, excited to. And that can come, I would expect it to surface itself
Starting point is 00:33:33 in both free agency and the draft. Man, it's so funny how he rubs me the wrong way now. Like I used to love hearing him talk and now it just annoys me. I have heard this from him and the GM every off season for the last five seasons. It's like, oh, we got options in free agency. We're gonna look at the draft.
Starting point is 00:33:49 Yeah, no shit. How about you actually get someone though this time? It's always this statement, and then they spend a third round pick on a guard that stinks, and that's all we do. We knew this shtick would get old. We all knew one day you're not gonna find this guy so cute. God, was he charming at the beginning.
Starting point is 00:34:04 That's what we got there. I just got there in this clip. Like I'm telling you before the clip. I was still good with McDaniel during that I'm like, I've heard this for five years done with it. He's not coming to heat games anymore, huh? No, not as much as the bell of the ball a sick courtside You guys know how all this stuff is copycat in that league. We've talked before about how innovation ends up being something That is forced upon the league because somebody is a front-runner the Philadelphia Eagles just sort of changed How people win at football correct like I understand that this has been true since the beginning of time But we had a space-age movement to all the young coaches all the all the guys throwing quick routes and scheming and then they go back to know we're just gonna mall you we're just gonna mall
Starting point is 00:34:51 you with our offensive lineman and we're gonna have a sirianni do it and we're just gonna you know say Kwan Barkley is gonna run down your throat does this mean that we're gonna go now to watching teams try to out offensive lineman everybody because one of the big news items that came from uh... the league uh... from the scouting combine was a team has complained about the tush push a team wants it banned and then diana russini reported that team is the
Starting point is 00:35:22 packers the packers have said that they don't want that's uh... that play to exist in the sport the eagles a lot of people say if you don't want us to run the play stop it i'd argue the tush push is bad for that sport i would argue i don't want my customers to be entertained by four scrums a game when i've only got eleven minutes of action and four of them are going to be entertained by four scrums a game when I've only got 11 minutes of action and four of them are gonna be stupid rugby scrums
Starting point is 00:35:49 that not only can injure people, but are just, we are going to try and get six inches because you can never stop us from getting six inches. That's not entertaining. It's not, if what you care about is made for television product, that is not something your customers are going to like.
Starting point is 00:36:07 I'm going to be the football ignorant person in the room. A, how often does that happen? B, how many teams are actually good at it? We know the Eagles are good at it, but is anyone else? The Bills? No, not, not, I mean, they do it. The Bills are really good at it. Well, they lost, their season ended because they weren't good enough at it at the end.
Starting point is 00:36:23 Well, teams were stopping it, especially in the playoffs. Kansas City had success stopping it against Buffalo. Washington had success and it gave us a very memorable, repeated offsides in which the referee was threatening them. But they had success within that game, made Philadelphia uncomfortable and do different things. Ultimately, I think that the league's just gotta get better at stopping it.
Starting point is 00:36:43 What can you outlaw? The pushing behind a player? Because a quarterback's quarterback sneak you can't take out of the game Did you think Goldberg streak was bad in WCW? Because like this is an unstoppable thing and the second that someone's gonna stop it in a crucial moment You're gonna be thankful for this narrative going into that moment, right? Like it's this crazy unstoppable play because they're so good at it and they practice it a lot, right? You say it's unstoppable, but it's been stopped and it eagles but no but they they have also been stopped it I understand that they're exceptional at
Starting point is 00:37:12 it and they don't get stopped very much I'm just talking about what is entertaining and what's not entertaining already you've got too many of these games are 1917 already there's too much there there's been a reworking that makes the defenses they've caught up some to the offense but they're running this on like fourth and one so it's like okay yeah maybe it's not entertaining but a fourth and one handoff for a one-yard gain that's not the most entertaining play either oh but they're doing they've been doing it for a while now on third and two you're long you're longing for a fullback dive like they are oh they just found a creative way to do something we always I don't know, third and two. You're longing for a full back dive?
Starting point is 00:37:45 They just found a creative way to do something we always saw. The Tom Brady was unstoppable at the quarterbacks. I would agree with you if they did what I've wanted them to do forever, which is do it the whole way down the field. All drive. Three yards at a time. Tush push, tush push, tush push, first down.
Starting point is 00:37:59 Tush push, tush push, tush push, first down. All breaks, no gas. All the way to the end zone. Then is there a play action for tush push you could do and just go deep, like 50 yards? You say that, but it's how the Eagles played this year. Like it's metaphorically, like the way that they played this year was Saquon's going to do that.
Starting point is 00:38:17 Saquon, Saquon, tush push, Saquon, Saquon, tush push. And so I'm asking you, every year you've seen. Don't look now, play action. You've seen reactions to actions in that sport. Someone said the magic words. He's back, baby. I Didn't want I don't I don't want I don't want wandering around very like he's giving me count warlock and I don't like Time now for the year you must bounce on it that tick-tock crazy style
Starting point is 00:38:55 is on right now where is he in the he's in the kitchen now in the eating area I just hear people screaming out there they're running out of the way because he's just bumping into things thankfully we we don't have an oven. We have hot plates. We do have hot plates and and it lowers around lunchtime too. Oh remember that? Just empty it. Empty the clip. Just I mean I got 20 seconds of show left and I couldn't do anything with offensive linemen. He wants to wander around. Got ya! and he wants to wander around. Gotcha!
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