The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 2: Every Second Matters

Episode Date: October 17, 2023

Dan, Mike, Amin, and Charlotte are out in Los Angeles and already have some amazing stories to share. After learning the spelling of the word cummerbund, the crew discusses words people say wrong and the advances in robot technology that scare them. Then, Amin and Dan share their celebrity encounters from their flights into L.A. and Charlotte tells us about a Zooey Deschanel Christmas Concert. Plus, Mike Golic Jr. joins the show to discuss his career path, working with family, and more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

You're listening to Giraffe King's Network. This is the Dunluba Tarshou with the Stugat's Podcast. I wanted to start here with a mean Charlotte and Mike Ryan as part of our Los Angeles adventure with just some Los Angeles observations, but Charlotte just said something to me that I found a groundbreaking illuminating Shocking something I did not know something that Mike pointed out is the most surprised he's been since he learned that the word wheelbarrow is not wheelbarrow.

It is not wheelbarrow. I've been pronouncing it most of my life wheel. Not just Mike. Also you dance. Yes. You thought it was wheelbarrow also. That is correct. Wait a second.

Is this a take it for granted situation? Not quite because I know that one, but I just always, I mean, wheelbarrow makes sense. Given what a wheelbarrow is, I just always assumed. Is it played by ear or played by ear? Played by ear. You know this, right? Yeah, I was just making sure I'm making sure.

Well, the one she brought in here is shocking. It's genuinely shocking. How do you think, and I don't know whether she went to a wedding or what? How do you think? I mean, when you put together a tuxedo and the part that goes in the middle over your torso, what do you think that is called? It's called like a cumber band or something like that. Well, that's even worse than what I thought. That's a band of cucumbers that plays a lot of music.

A government. It's a band with really heavy instruments. A cumbersome band. A lot of baggage. No, I learned this weekend, Dan. I was at a wedding, shout out to my brother-in-law and now sister-in-law. And yes, there were those things with the ruffles that go around the mid-second. I was like, oh, wow.

You know, it's not often you see a cummer bund in the wild or something. And my husband was like, I actually, he was like, you will not believe this. It's cummerbund. I'm sorry. There's no B. There's no B in the first part of the word.

There's no B. I think there needs to be a B. There needs to be a B, right? But my mind was absolutely blown and he only knew that because of people at the Tixedo store told him he was saying it wrong. I think this is shocking to the audience. Have we have we have we verified this or the people of the Tixedo store? Yes. I look at it. I go Google it because I was like there's no way that's correct. I can look it up again. Okay. Are you now feeling terribly self-conscious?

Yes. I'm watching. I'm thinking you got it all wrong because... Well, wouldn't that be funny? It would be the most Charlotte thing of all time. Those tassels at the Tixedo store. Look at that. I am shocked.

It is. Commerbund with no B. No bun for me. I want to put it on the pole at Levitard show. Have you pronounced it cumber-bund the entirety of your life? I have another thing that I learned that I don't know that you guys, if you know what I'm talking about, or if you can remember something like what happened to me when I was driving to the place where I'm staying here in Los Angeles.

This is the first time that I have seen this, and I imagine if you have seen it somewhere, the first time you saw it, you had the same reaction I did. Maybe you're familiar with this. I'm at a stoplight, and what I see go across the crosswalk is clearly an unmanned cart robot of some sort that is delivering food by itself. And there's no one near it, and I'm expecting someone, especially because there's a large unhoused population here, and I'm from Miami. I'm expecting someone to, once I realize what it is, take this delivery vehicle that is

robotic and steal the food that's inside it because you cannot have these in Miami and expect them to get to the place they're supposed to get to. We do. It's happened to me six times walking from the Elser to the Metro rail stop that I being stalked by this little pink robot. It was pink. It was pink.

It was pink here too. Yeah, it's a little pink robot. It's a girl. And I always have to kind of stop and, because I always think it's just gonna run into me, but I start slowing down, it starts slowing down, it's a very unsettling feeling. I stayed at a hotel in Chicago where all of the stuff

that like room service, and he towels, I forgot my toothbrush, it's all done by a robot. Like one of these little droid robots rolls in, and I don't like it. I'm just saying right now, it's all done by a robot. Like one of these little droid robots, like rolls in. And I don't like it. I'm just saying right now, it has nothing to do with saving people's jobs. I just don't like it. It's just, it is nothing to do with saving people's jobs.

No, no, no. That part of me is fine with. I'm not gonna paint myself as some sort of altruist. I'm just saying that like, it made me a worse human being. When it rolled up, I wanted to say awful things so it's because it's a robot, like, shut up, you tin can. Like, I just wanted to be mean to it. I felt like there was more responsibility on it

to look after it because I'm like, how is this dumb machine not gonna get hit by a car, especially with the drivers that we have here in Miami? So I kind of felt like I was like, leaf locker. You said it was screwing it? Yeah, that's what I did about that. But do you guys remember the first time that you saw it?

Because my reaction was very specific, right? This is discovery awe, and then what came soon thereafter was fear, fear for the future, fear that that's not going to get where it's supposed to get to. Like something is going to go wrong in the technology of whatever this business is, they must be losing a lot in the gutter of whatever is happening as they learn to do it correctly. A lot of these carts and the food must not be getting to the place they're supposed to get to.

Unless, I think what Mike just said is actually something that these companies are probably banking on. They want, they're eliciting human empathy from humans for these, because they're like, oh, these cute little robots. Like, we've got to take care of them. So they make them pink, which is also just the gender. We should do those. We should round them all up and just use them solely for gender reveals. Like, if you open the door and it's either a pink or a blue robot.

And the baby's in the end of the baby's in the head. Guess what? We got all the guesswork taken out. Now, it doesn't evoke empathy from me. It's the opposite. Or the actual baby. Guess what, we got all the guesswork taken out. Now, it doesn't evoke empathy from me. It's the opposite. It makes me cruel. It's like I want to kick it. I don't know why.

It just feels me with a rage that I didn't do anything. But I also love the idea. In my mind's eye, Dan's driving down the street, La Siena or some pico, some very LA street and Randy Newman, I love LA so I'm like, dun dun dun dun dun dun. And then as he pulled out the light, it turns into an eerie, creepy version of,

oh, no, no, no. It was fear that swept over the sky. It was just joking in the future. I don't know where you guys are, you guys are relaxed around this, as if you're veterans of the future. What's having a little earlier than you thought it was. It's always unsettling.

The first time that it happened to me, I thought I was like on a hidden camera show. Because how long has it been around? It's been around for a good year. A bit more. More than that. I'm dating back to when we first went into the Elser. It happens like once a week.

What is the company, though, is everyone using these to deliver food now? It's the sky net. That's the name of the company, I believe. I mean, because I've seen, I've seen, this is a huge it's a the delivery we have gotten to a place in general convenience where we don't have to go much of anywhere to shop for anything but I thought one of the industries that was safe is people bringing me things

to make it more convenient once you start replacing those jobs with robots and robots that cannot be efficient there's just no way this early in the technology there's no way this early in the technology that i'm not going to find all over the cities wherever these things are all this a bunch of these in a dumpster somewhere or in a gutter somewhere because they haven't gotten filled with like the pecan pie or whatever it is being our giant turkey legs because it's not getting to where it's supposed to get to somewhere that little pink robots like uh...

no i i am it terrifies me i am profoundly anti robot and it makes me nervous even going on the record saying that because then when they take over they're coming from the first also though i think i'm cool with that if we're going to be ruled by robots like take me out first that spine this is a message to all of the robots. You guys keep acting like being taken over by robots is a bad thing. Could it be much worse than what humans are doing?

That's a good point. That's a great point. I stand correct. Wait a minute. It's a real low-bar for robots to be able to. It can be much worse. Like, I understand that it's pretty bad right now. What humans are doing, but yes, it can be much worse if robots were simply in control.

And then suddenly we didn't have anything in the way of freedom. It's given like a month. Let's just see how they think. Honestly, not the worst take I've ever heard of. You should carve out that lane for yourself. Like, I welcome the robots. I've fallen welcome our new overlay.

Yeah. Think about the whole, do you guys have driverless cars in terms of? I've never been in a car like that. So Phoenix is big. It's called Waymo. Wait, wait, seriously? The car shows up.

There's no driver in there. Wait, what? Yep. Have you gotten into one of these? I have. I have. And it's not even like a Uber. Did you guys know this?

It's not even an Uber Charlotte. It's like a, some of them are Jaguar Fpaces and then they've outfitted them with 8 billion cameras like and what is including one on the top just keeps swirling it up. So I'm kind of like God in one the other day and I'm like am I like you know my fear is this is the only way I think I'm going to die. It's in a car accident. It's like in a driverless car, feels like I'm tempting fate a little. But isn't this demolition man? I love how that's canon.

You guys know how I'm gonna die. It's a car accident. Yeah, man, it's all the vision. But yeah, it is like demolition man a little bit. And it's weird then because I had this conversation with you. I went back and rewatched demolition man like a year ago. And some of the times I got this so silly. And some of them like, damn,

they are spot on with a lot of this stuff about what the future is gonna be. Like for instance, cancel culture. That's what demolition man was about. When you, you find one, you do it better than I do. John Spott and you are assigned one credit for the verbal profanity act of blah, blah, blah. Yeah, man, like that's some crazy stuff.

When you think about like, oh, that's kind of the society we live in now. That was weak the way that you made him do the impersonation when I heard that's a good one. Yeah. Do you think Taco Bells got to win the fast food wars? I look, they've got a hell of a lead right now with those, uh, those, uh, natural fries.

Well, they invented the fourth meal. Charlotte, I'm with you. I wouldn't get one of those cars. I didn't Elon Musk have a bunch of them exploding that aren't the, in the experimental phase. I'll do this after the experimental phase. After we've gotten past the exploding automobile. I mean, my instinct is to be like,

yeah, I'm not getting in, but then, as a mean, says, like, could it be worse than people driving cars? Also, I'm just realizing the first time I saw one of these robots was in Miami in a car and a mean was also in that car and it was doubly scary because I was like everybody knows a mean has a had a premonition that he's going to die in a car accident. I'm in the car looking at this robot being like this is the end times. And then the robot pulled out a gun and

it's like oh no. You don't have any trepidation about getting into that car. When you're when all of us, I think, are surprised. Oh, none of us have done this. You're the only one we've done. I see it driving around town, but never had one pull up. I mean, let me put it this way. It was the cheapest ride chair. That was available. I was like, all right, I'll give it a try. And I got in. And it's weird because you don't think about the car driving itself, you think about a ghost sitting there because the steering wheel's world's left and the world's right.

And I'm like, what's, why would it do that? Why would it just change the wheel without changing the steering wheel? Did you have any impulse to just jump up and grab the steering wheel? Not really. Any close calls or anything in the way of fear, you just were totally relaxed looking at your phone

Grateful that there wasn't a driver a strange person not talking. It was this one pink robot that I One thing I'll say is that it was slow. I was like come on get to the point because it's following all the traffic rules And I kind of missed a human touch of just breaking rules that didn't right? point because it's following all the traffic rules. And I kind of missed a human touch of just breaking rules left and right. I had another situation while I was driving. I didn't know. I don't know if you've seen this. I don't know if this is common in Los Angeles. I'm walking past a bunch of windows and in the windows look like four or five dentist chairs facing forward facing the street. And I'm like, why would they be having dentist chairs out in the open?

What do you think this is? What do you, when I'm saying it, or putting it out in front of you? What do you think this establishment is? I have no idea. I thought it was maybe a tattoo parlor, or something. I like the cosmetics injectable.

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while breakfast flying. Stoo gotch! You never heard the breakfast flying song? No. Henry with it. Okay. I wish I had some breakfast bit of an incident slash celebrity encounter on his flight on the way in. I too had a celebrity encounter, but not an incident. So you start, I mean, on your flight to Los Angeles, what happened to you? So we're boarding, it's one of those things where it's all right, now boarding group one and then everybody gets in line and then like, I hate that the worst. We hate that.

We got to police this. And then should I start judging books by cover? I'm like, there's no way you're priority access. I know way. I do a little lean over terrible. No, there's no way. And you did not serve our country. Based on how you were not military, there's just no way.

I see that backpack that you got on there. You're not group. You're profiling in a way that's not quite racist, but is sort of like you're better than me, like you don't do it. You're wealth profiling. Look, I just said that's awful so that you could be the one to say it

because who doesn't a little bit do it. We all do. I'll be the bad guy. I do a little peek at the boarding pass. Like really? Yes, I do. Are you working with? Because here's the thing, mine is black.

Yours is blue. Blue. That's already kind of a red flag that you're not supposed to be in this. I turned to Cynthia sometimes. I'm like, look at this goddamn blue pass. I don't think a mean would like it though, too. If we were just profiling in general

getting on an airplane and he is he is doing this to others. I don't think a mean would like it being done to him. Oh, he's a savvy traveler. I look at a mean. I'm like that. That's like a group two group three. That tech police has seen some airplanes before. It's happened to me and they'll say, Oh, well, I'm sorry, sir. We're only going to group one. It's happened to me and they'll say, oh, we're all sorry, so we're only going to group one. I was like, oh, hmm. It's made to do. So what happened on your flight? So we're boarding now. I had switched seats like on the app. And sometimes the boarding pass doesn't refresh an update. So you just have to kind of like reopen it. So I scan the boarding pass and there's a baby,

you know, wrong seat. I'm like, oh, I'll try to switch seats. Remove pass. And the lady was like, go talk to my associate like, no, I can do this. It's gonna take me like two seconds. Like every second matters. I'm like, what?

Every second matters. Yes sir, every second matters. So I said, well, why? Well, I don't want to create an incident because every second does matter. And then the next, I don't want to create an incident because every second does matter. And then the next guys behind me were the property brothers. And so I'm literally and you know, he's both of the property, both of the property brothers were on my flight, right? One of them wore a mask. One of them didn't. And that, wow, divisions and families

all over America. Right. The one that wore a mask was probably married to Zoe Deschanel. Maybe. I don't know. They're identical. I don't know. Well, that's a very Hollywood thing. So anyway, so by the time she scans them, I'm done. I found my past and then and I, are you ready now? So I was like, I am, but I, I just want to point out that every second does matter. So let's cut the chit chat. So of no choice. And I scanned it and it worked and she's like,

thank you so much. Well, thank you, but don't thank me too much because every second matters. And then we walk down and of course this will always happen when you start boarding. There's a line in the jet way and so I yelled back, I was second matters, but I'm still waiting here. Dog with a bone.

You're embarrassing yourself. Well, because the principal of the thing, number one, number two, I really enjoy walking up to the line, but not actually doing anything because in my mind, she calls security. What happened here? He kept saying every second matter. I was just repeating back to her. I was he said, you know, where is a great place to do that?

Yes, an airport where their, their tempers are in short and where they're not fully empowered to just call security on He has become really Americanized because that is not I remember him telling me the stories about being terrified about speaking freely in Airport he has told me that that is not something he should be the power of group one access I look I was writing high I was writing high because The property brother the one with the mask turned around and like pulls the mask down and he'd put on the face. Hey buddy, at least you know, no, every second matter.

You know the property brother, one of the property brothers is joined in your bit. Absolutely, the other one couldn't care less. But the one with the mask on, that's my guy, that's the guy with Zoli, that should know. I'm declaring it now. Hold down his mask in order to show you his smile of solidarity on every second matter. Is your, is your, is your property, brother? As you're doing this to the poor gate lady who's just trying to, he's trying to flex her power.

Let's be real. She knows. Of course, that's what it's too forced colliding, but but but here's the thing. I didn't know whether to let him know I knew who he was. And I kept thinking like, should I say something like, what do you about? Like, oh, I saw that celebrity game. Like, you could hoop a little. I wanted to make out the wrong brother. You know what? That's a good point.

I just sat there and I was just like, you know what? He probably craves human interactions that don't center on him being a property brother. So you know what? I just laughed with him like, yeah man, I'll never forget that now. And then I just boarded my thing. He's told people about your story.

Yeah, there's this one dude who's crazy. You just yell at the lady every second matter. How was your flight? Well, there was this one guy. Actually, this is what I thought after I sat down. Because oh, by the way, when I, he was getting into the aisle there was this one guy. Actually, this is what I thought after I sat down. Because oh, by the way, when I, he was getting into the, the aisle and he said, Oh, are you sitting here like to the

seat next? I'm like, no, I'm a couple rows back. But in my mind, I'm like, is he telling people after a deal, the dude that used to be on ESPN on the show without here yelling at this lady every second matters. No one seen him in years. Whatever have, I thought that guy was dead. I was under the husband and let him go because he's an obnoxious ass. I was like, yells at people in airport. I had, I once went to not by choice so much.

It just was one of those things that sort of happens to you. You find yourself at a Zoe Dacinel Christmas concert. Oh. You know, which was already funny to me because it was a Zoli De Chanel Christmas concert. I'm like, is she going to be? Oh, is that what you, he doesn't have white women's hands. I don't have white women's hands. He wants to have, he's got a limit, he's got a tiny little sound box that has about one

eighth of the sounds we usually have. White women did not make the choice. It's a gender wealth description. I feel like I am a white guy too, like that, that works. Now Charlotte, let me ask you a question. Zoey Deschanel Christmas concert, which is single links. So I'm talking about, and that really annoying voice.

Yeah, and I, it was like one of those nights where you're out with people and someone's like, I'm going to a Zoey Deschanel and I was like, you know what, this is funny. No, I'm not. Sure. I thought you made friends. No, that sounded like Sammy Davis. Do you know more than it did anybody else.

I was like, is she gonna be wearing her costume from Elf? Like what, and she basically was, and I had had, you know, a few like spiked egg dogs or whatever, and in between sets, I would yell, where's the property brother? And like nobody thought it was funny. No, I personally. It was not the right crowd for a heckling

so additional with the property brother joke. I'd like to apologize to the property brother who I made a connection with. I did not mean to do that. Her voice is magical. I'm happy for you guys. I can't believe that Charlotte gets drunk on spike egg dogs. Like it's a guy.

I mean, I use it as a joke drink, insert joke drink there, but it probably also was true. Have you had a rum chata? Yes. You have? Yes. Did it like blow your mind? What's the difference between rum chata? Is it rum and hor chata?

Yes. It's rum. It's the rum. It's hor. It's hor. But it is a norderve. I end up flying and see on my flight and I was surprised that he was flying commercially and wasn't flying on a private jet.

Jimmy Johnson who is going across the country to do his Fox show. Now keep in mind, he's kind of the OG of pregame shows because when they hired him a million years ago, I don't know if it was 30 years ago or what, it was a long ass time ago, however long ago was 20 years ago. It's the 90s. He started what became a very popular pre-game show and he flies, he's 80 years old now and it doesn't have a lot of interest in doing much of anything that takes him out of Key West. Makes a ton of money in the stock market

and also with just private speaking engaged. What's his secret? That must be nice. Yes, but I assumed, would you not be surprised, Mike, to find Jimmy Johnson flying commercially? That's a long private flight. So no, I, I want to be too surprised. You have it in his Fox, Fox deal that they would fly in private. Well, I asked him about this because I was legitimately surprised to see him in this line because he did have a private jet for a while. Like he's done much better in the stock market than he did in football.

And so he had his own private jet, but one of the things that I learned, I have him as being a game stop guy. He just made boo-boo bucks on me and stocks. One of the things that I did not consider, and maybe you guys have considered it because he was saying I actually prefer to fly commercially because Wi-Fi on Saturdays I get to fly and watch college football when it is that I'm flying. And it's something that I had not considered at all

because I'm looking at him and I'm still saying to him, why wouldn't you just get Wi-Fi on your plane? And he's like, because it costs hundreds of thousands of dollars, now it made me realize why the airlines are charging me on top of what they already charged me for their Wi-Fi. And it makes sense, of course. I've gotten so spoiled that I just expect

to have internet access when I'm 30,000 feet in the sky. And he's like, I didn't want to keep doing that. If I'm only going to use it six or seven or eight times a year, I don't want to pay hundreds of thousands of dollars for Wi-Fi. I thought you were going to say he's like, because I'm a huge environmentalist down. I thought so too, actually. You know, the funny thing, Louis CK had this joke about Wi-Fi where he said he's like, I'm on the flight and the flight attendant gets on the mic and says, congratulations ladies and gentlemen, this is the first commercial flight to feature Wi-Fi access.

And when we get in the air, everyone, pull out your phone, you'll be able to connect to Wi-Fi. So we take off, remember when we reach 30,000 feet, the flight attendant comes back on, and says, apologies, there's something wrong with the Wi-Fi. So it's not going to be working. He says the guy next to you says, this is bull. Oh, I'm sorry. The thing that you just discovered 15 minutes ago. We're all spoiled that title. Anytime the Wi-Fi doesn't work on a flight, I'm like, I'm so pissed.

And then I'm like, I look down, I'm like, I am 30,000 feet in the air in a metal tube in the sky. It's amazing. I'm even here. And then it makes me feel a little bit better about the wife. Wifi and then power. I get so irate with there's no power plug or if my power plug doesn't work. I cause a fuss. I mean every second counts. Every second counts. So absolutely like that's the one to me. I can live with no Wi-Fi. If you tell me ahead of time, we don't have Wi-Fi on the flight.

I don't like getting on there and say, oh yeah, this one doesn't have Wi-Fi. We just tell me, tell me yet, but the power, because my device is these sucks so much power, especially when they're 30,000 feet in the air. I don't know why. If you don't give me a power plug, I get in sense because it's 2022. I don't know why. If you don't give me a power plug, I get in sense because it's 2020,

I don't think that's asking too much. But when did you become the guy who's this comfortable in airplanes and airports to make scenes? You have told me the story of... 75,000 miles. Yeah, you've overhired people in airports speaking freely, criticizing the government and you've

thought to yourself because of where you're from, you've thought who's crazy enough to speak ill of the government. I've been trying to take it there since the beginning of the second decade. I'll give Charlotte some background. Charlotte, when I first came back to this country from Sudan, I've been living in Sudan for six years, we're walking, we're waiting in line for the customs and the one customs guy is talking the other customs guy about, hey, you get your taxes back? I was like, no, I don't get a refund this year. Uncle Billy got it. And I was like, he means Bill Clinton and I legit

thought secret police were going to come in and take him away for speaking ill of the president. Don Lebertard. Doc Rivers. You know, Joe L, he's going to tweet what he wants to tweet. dog rivers. Um, you know, Joel, it's gonna, he's gonna tweet what he wants to tweet. I'm quite frankly, I'm fine with it. Uh, if anything, I want to go to Miami too. Is that all right? I mean, is it supposed to be in the front office by now? Hey, I could hit the back nine right after practice. Oh, he'd love that. Oh my God. Two gots. Me and Joel. Let's go. I mean, I mean, two gots. That's a great question. It's a great question. If they win Gabe six, that hurts my chances of coming down here. And being that coach with Joel, it's a real handsome question, Stugat.

This is the Don Lebatar show with this two gods. I wanted to begin here by talking to Mike Goliak, Jr. who's just been kind enough. I didn't even know he lived in Los Angeles until he sat down next to us. And I wanted to start with him before getting to Charlotte and Amine, but Amine has been trying to shoehorn since we got here into everything that we're talking about. His Antonio Benderis imitation and impersonation. Why did this start? How did this start? It's a good impersonation. It's strong, but why did it start? We were talking about pussing boots and all of a sudden,

you were doing your Antonio Benderas. Well, we were talking about how these mics are very lovely pieces of equipment and they allow you to do voices better, right? So Charlotte, you can do the NPR voice, right? I mean, welcome to the Dan Love the Tard Show with Stugots. So all about hit those T's that Mike allows you to do that. And the other thing it does is it picks up bass very well. So all those deep bass voices, I can know, like Liam Neeson, like I can do that a lot better on the mic than I can just walking around. And so I do the Liam Neeson one a lot. But then I was like, let me try this Antonio Bendar. And this is a debut here. We have not, you have not tried this in public before.

It's a little scary for you. It is, it is because I know I got it well done so well earlier today. And now that the mics are on and now we're recording, can I reach the high, go go. I was killing it, man. I was killing. Well, I heard a little bit right before we got on. He was a little bit nervous. He He was a little better. You want to think about it for a second I'll talk to my goalic and you just sort of get yourself in the mode Daniel day Lewis style. Let's see if you I'll give you a couple of seconds to gather yourself and perfect it in your head as we talk to my goalic Thank you for joining us right before the microphones came on. I was professing my admiration for the choices you've made to work with your father at the end of his career. You did something brave and leaving ESPN before it

the end of the desk career. I mean it's way closer to the end that it is to be getting it. It's quite a huge even in that. You got him going for 70 more years. I mean, I'm assuming that Mike Gollixine, you're doesn't have to do much of anything. And I'm also assuming that he's working with his son because what a joy to work with his son. The greatest professional blessing of my life is getting old with my father on television at what I was considering toward the end of my career. So anyways, I was just telling him that before things got obviously shaky at ESPN, before it became something that more people were doing,

Mike Gollick with a future at ESPN. With a name at ESPN, that ESPN would value for a long time, chose something different because he wanted his life to be a little bit bigger and he wanted his family life to be a little more connected. And so I've been awed by the choice that you made. I don't think it's something a lot of people would have done. No, I appreciate that. Obviously is someone who's watched him been a fan of you and your show and the things around it and seen the way that you guys have operated.

I do appreciate the credit for a lot of that foresight when I, my father's fun. I'm a little bit more of like a sea ball hit ball player where it was, oh, this seemed like an exciting opportunity. And part of it was, hey, there's a chance for some life balance out here. I grown up and spent my entire life in, you know, around Bristol, Connecticut, where ESPN is and as everyone in this room knows, there's not a lot much out there. There's a reason. And one of many reasons that you guys were able to avoid having to come up and be under the umbrella of the mothership is there's a lot of good that comes with being there but having been there since I was 11 years old,

coming back there as an adult then to start working, I did look around for the hours it demands and what I wanted to put in while I was working there, it didn't afford me a lot of times as a single adult going into my 30s who looked around at some of the things that my brother and my sister, their significant others were starting to do from a family perspective. I was like, all right, if I've got an opportunity that creatively is something exciting, it's

going to be a great challenge allows me the chance to continue to work with my dad as that became an opportunity more apparent to us as I got over here. And maybe I can start to explore some other things that you don't get in central Connecticut. It's ESPN, the elevator factory across the street and then late compounds where they have the picnic. And that's about it. You don't have a lot of other stuff within ready range. And so being out here and being in a place where people are already and people want to be, it was a cool chance for an attempt at balance, which I'm still trying to work on now.

I'm going to ask you about how scary it was in a second, but you're feeling better about your impersonation. Are you feeling more confident or less confident? Yes. You shouldn't feel any more confident about it than what you just did. No. Antiguado is what you are. I, you may know me from my other role as boosts in boots. I mean, it pains me to say this.

It is pretty good. I'm pretty impressed. It is less confident than it was, actually. It's a good show. It is. It's a good show. I'd like to, I'd like to talk to Antonio Bendera as he leaks confidence.

What's happening inside you right now Antonio, as you leak confidence because you don't think that this impersonation is something that you should be doing. Where are my fat friends? I find... Oh, I, be careful. Be careful. Right up to the line. Right up to the line and then pull it back. Okay, I regret putting you in this position many times. You just get variables got introduced and that's where the confidence started.

It's a limited impersonation. You should stay limited. We all made the same. It's the same timeation. It should stay limited. We all made the same I have an idea But It's too dangerous Too many words How scary was it for you though Mike or was it something when you say

Hitball because it's in front of you. Is it something I have found generally speaking and anyone that I talk to Dan Patrick on, there is a scaryness in leaving for change something that has for our entire life felt very safe. Yeah. There's definitely some of that that's still popped up now. And I always make it very clear that wasn't a place that I left with bad feeling towards either. I have nothing but gratitude towards the opportunities that were afforded to me by that place and a lot of the people that I got to know there. But there is a lot of safety and security that also comes with that that every once in

a while, wake up in the middle of the night and go, oh man, like, am I going to be okay? Like there is a lot of long term security there. You do worry about that stuff, but I guess I always went back to and I didn't have the long athletic career that my dad did, which means I think at times I think about things a little differently. Like my dad's an athlete that's doing this job. When he goes, I always say like people that speak multiple languages at once and the question is like, what language do you dream in? What do you think most coherently in? My dad dreams an athlete. That's how he sees himself and that's the prism that he sees and makes decisions through. And so I have a little bit less of that that limited fake Antonio bandair. But I do think part of it is always I look

at every situation as a challenge for what I can control. And the success in my mind right or wrong will always be determined by what I'm willing to put into something, how hard I'm willing to work that and how I approach whatever the given task is. And so that was the way I always kind of calm myself down as I look at a space now that is growing and that has a lot of opportunity. And that was part of the exciting part about it is also, all right, well, there are parts of this that I can still control the same way I could control the effort I brought to practice and all that cliche stuff that we say about sports.

That's true, but still applies to this. I wanted to ask you all something about dead spin road, something recently about this move and undisputed was the starting point on it because they were using Lil Wayne and Michael Irvin and Richard Sherman and Kishon Johnson, this move away from journalists on television to former athletes. And they were, the deadspin article was pointing out that Rodney Harrison had gone after Zach Wilson calling him garbage. Then Dante Whitner had said that Dak Prescott sucks, that Lashon McCoy had called Dak Prescott as, and this general movement away from whatever the responsibility of journalists

is in commenting on games to more and more former athletes. And we've got in this room, we've got a little bit of everything here. Charlotte comes from journalism, I come from journalism, Mike Moore from athletics, a mean from front office. I mean, come on, Dan, I was very good at softball in high school.

So put a little respect on my name, thank you. I was putting a little respect on your journalistic credentials. What do you want with your commentating? I mean, like, what do you want to a balance? Do you want the former athlete's opinion? Do you understand, as ESPN gets into a partnership

with Pat McAfee where he changes the rules on what journalism is going to be? Because he's like, I'm just gonna give Aaron Rodgers a bunch of money and I can do that because I don't have to adhere to the journalism rules that ESPN has adhered to. Yeah, I mean, I think what we want is a balanced diet. I think there is a place for that

because that's a perspective that we want to know about, right? When the example I always use, this was a year single, when Magic Johnson was on inside the NBA and they had this, it was Dwight Howard had a bag at first half. And Magic said, Dwight Howard needs to play better. And I'm like, all right, that's cool because it's Magic Dunston. I get it, but it's also like, you haven't taken me anywhere that I couldn't go on my own. In that same segment, Kenny Smith tells the story about one time, Hakeem Elijah only had

four shots a half time. And he came in the locker room and everyone thinks about Hakeem as this really nice guy, sweet, soft, spoken guy. He mother after every single person in the locker room and everyone thinks about him. This is really nice guy, sweet, soft spoken guy. He mother every single person in the locker room. And in the second half, we got on the ball and he scored 30 in the second half. And I said, these are two athlete perspectives. One of us took us to the lobby,

where we're already sitting. One of us took us up to the penthouse. And Kenny is nowhere near the caliber of player that Magic Johnson was, right? But that's the job. The job is when I do this, I'm going to take you somewhere that you couldn't have gone on your own,

which is what fun-office people do. And then what the journalists do. They do sourcing to reporting through journalism. They take you places that you couldn't have gone on your own. When it turns into that press got sucks, like, all right, like cool, but I need you to take me there as a player. Why does he? And that's, this is new though.

You saw this happen with Jerry Judy and Steve Smith the other day. It's new for the athletes to rip other athletes. There's usually a professional respect there that doesn't go as far as LaShawn McCoy calling Dak Prescott at. And it, but it is interesting because I pointed out to someone the other day, that's what's get said and worse inside locker rooms. And I mean, you've seen that over and over again, but usually there's been that code amongst former athletes of if we start saying it publicly, we invite everyone listening, every

member of the fan bases, all these outside audiences, to criticize in a way that's usually reserved for the people inside that brotherhood, who inside locker rooms, yeah, say that stuff all the time. I also think it's a lack of imagination. It's not knowing what else to say. It's not knowing how to say it. It's reverting to shock value instead of like, well, let's break this. Why does he suck?

Tell us why he sucks. Don't say he sucks. Anybody watching a game, we're an athlete sucks. It's like, yeah, like I suck. Like bring something to it and have the imagination to be able to give us something we haven't had. But then that's why the guys who do it really well stand out. Very mind-greene for all of his stuff. When he starts talking about it, it's like he has a gift of explaining to you what he's seeing. J.J. Reddick, another guy who does a great job, they're not just telling you, they're telling you how and why.

And so I think that's the big thing is, can you articulate that feeling of you sucker, your ass? And beyond that, the journalist is only needed there to ask for the elaboration. Tell me, Lashon. What is he ass? The journalist is only needed there to ask for the elaboration. Tell me, Lashon. What is he asked?