The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 2: Faking News

Episode Date: August 8, 2024

Dan is mesmerized by a 105 mph pitch in Major League Baseball, and Tony has a story for the crew involving a mall, a walk, his pregnant wife, and an owl where he felt like George Costanza. Then, what would you do if $2 million washed onto your boat? Plus, the naked crime syndicate at LIV nightclub, a saltwater crocodile at The Clevelander, and the dumbest stuff the guys on our crew have done to impress their partners. Also, Mike is worried he is slowly turning into his father, we take a look at today's Thursday Thunder, and Izzy and Dan discuss the immediate "you made it up" reaction to journalism people disagree with. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Aroldis Chapman, the Cuban pitcher who now now anybody want to guess where a rolled this Chapman is now He's played for a lot of teams. He throws I thought 103 and 104 miles an hour But the pitch I'm about to show you is a hundred and five miles an hour I can't believe he's still throwing that hard But anybody want to take a guess at where a rolled this Chapman is now playing Louis Myrtle Beach merman Is he a royal? He is a Pittsburgh pirate. And I want-

You're learning he's so throwing. And I- He's gonna be my fifth guest. I wanna show you this pitch. It's inside corner at the knees and watch Manny Machado's reaction to 105 miles an hour inside corner at the knees. They just laugh at each other

because they know how absurd they are. They're like, what are you? That's right, Tony. What are you supposed to do with that? What are you going to do with that one? That's Manny Machado. That is a Hall of Famer looking at him and he's giving him sort of the Michael Jordan shrug after making six threes against Portland where it's like, ah, come on. What is that? They just laugh at each other's faces at the absurdity of trying to hit that baseball. And Chapman was already posing.

And he still looked at him like, yeah, no, you deserve that. Is the, what's the closest equivalent to this? Is it Chris Gatling dappin' up Sean Kemp after he dunked on him? Like, Sean Kemp dunked some Chris Gatling, Chris Gatling looking at you. Whatever happened to those moments.

In basketball, where you just have to be awed by the guy who did it to you and you're just like Yeah, I lose. That's Manny Machado. I'm pretty sure he's a Hall of Famer I haven't looked at the numbers But I think of him as a Hall of Famer for him to laugh at the absurdity of not being able to hit a pitch From a guy who's a journeyman who now pitches for the Pittsburgh Pirates It's almost like when Steph hit the dagger three from basically half court against the Thunder. It's like, oh, okay He's just way better then they've been showing these angles

Sorry about my Olympic Renaissance here But they've been showing these angles of these indoor volleyball serves and it's ridiculous like it's coming at you at 80 miles per hour It takes a hard hook to the left and I don't know how those people pass that thing Izzy I'll tell you the the volleyball thing that I got was beach volleyball I've watched it a couple Olympics now, maybe three or four and Every time everyone serves the same way throw it up and they kind of spike or whatever. There's this one dude for Italy He wears a hat. He's a short stocky dude. He's built like George Costanza and his service is like it's like the ephis pitch Yeah

he just slapped the shit out of it and it goes like 70 meters into the sky and then drops on the other side and it's like the accuracy with which he's getting it in play every single time despite it looks like the most assholes just let me just send it up to the sky. It's so difficult to do as a server. It's so difficult to do passing it even more difficult. Like you just have to sit there and be patient with it and hopefully it just doesn't knuckle and hit you in the nose

Speaking of George Costanza guys I had a moment a couple of weeks ago that I felt like George Costanza and that that can mean a lot of things right George There's a lot of things to a lot of people but me and my wife my wife's pregnant We like to go on walks after to kind of get the digestion thing moving kind of blocks things up when you're pregnant So we go for a walk around where we used to live around DeLand mall So we'll do a nice little lap around the mall and it's getting to be dusk. So it's about like maybe eight o'clock. We finished dinner, we're walking around, we're just talking back and forth. And this lady with this little dog walks up to us kind of on the back end of

DayLand mall and she's like, do you guys know about owls? And again, they free just, just, just absolutely no context who just comes up to us and says that and I'm you know I'm quick with some like I'm like ma'am. I was an owl ologist. I studied owls in college I'm very excited about owls. Did you know that they don't when they flap their wings? It'll make any noise I started giving her a couple owl tips. They can turn their head 360 incredible You said owl ologist didn't you? Yeah, no 100% And that's why cuz I was like saying it as I don't know what the actual term is or whatever

And she looks and she goes my god. Thank you, and I look and I'm like I'm like yeah, of course no problem Whatever she turns over she goes. There's an owl right there, and I think it's hurt I'm like where she moves over and there's like a barn owl like this big with a hurt wing And I'm looking at I'm like you you stare at me? I go definitely a barn owl. Let me go take a look at that My wife like grass and she's like do not touch it. He's like ma'am. He is a liar He is not an owl ologist. That's not even a real word Did you not stare into the eye of the mighty fish? I walked up to it and as I started walking up to it

I was a little fearful because it started hopping and I was like, oh, I don't know what you're gonna do Please let this be a golf ball lodge somewhere yeah no no golf ball lodge in the owl but the moment that that lady turned around and I looked down and I see the owl just all the blood left my body I was just like I'm not about to touch this owl I don't know what it has I don't know if the towns are gonna scratch me I don't know anything about owls ma'am but the fact that she turned around and that owl was there, it made me think I may never want to do the expert thing ever again, which is tough because I love

doing that. No, no, you keep doing it. And then when you see the owl, then you bail. I mean, what are the odds it's going to happen again? That's what I think until something else. Are you a whatever? And I'm like, yes, of course. I've studied it my whole life. And then it like I hurt your pregnant wife betrayed you in that moment And she instantly told the woman he knows nothing about owls. He just made up a word owl ologist I bet he made he knows nothing about how she also hit me with a chicken wing in the rib too Which which her I'll take out she's like he knows nothing about owls ma'am So and I had to spend the next 30 minutes of the walk

My wife was like you're gonna do something for that owl and I was like I was like what do you want me to do with? The owl like I can't I can't help it. She's like you're gonna call humane societies. You're gonna start doing stuff So I had to sit there on my phone in this walk Looking at Miami Dade humane societies. It's eight. It's eight o'clock. They're not there. Nobody's there. I can't call like hey guys There's an owl at Daly mall. I don't know what to do animal rescue Just find the animal right cuz that's the 24 hours they come in there and grab it now They might kill the owl like that's not up to me though. You've done your part. No, they're not gonna kill the owl No, you never know. No, well, they may

Kindly euthanize it to me Destroy the owl again I think it was a wing because it was kind of like, you know how when the birds have their wings like tucked in They're good. This one was kind of out which again kind of gave me a creep I didn't like it so I ended up walking away But somewhere some humane society here Miami has a voicemail for me because my wife made me leave it saying like hey guys, um Anonymously, there's an owl at Dayland Mall who's hurt. Um, you know who's hurt, you know. Anonymous, what are you worried about in this scenario? Just in case you look me up like,

hey, there was no owl there, buddy. Tell me a quick question, was the owl? This is the guy that keeps taking ducks, we got him. Was the owl sleepy? Owl was not sleepy. Because it was dusk, so I feel like owls are nocturnal, Dan. I don't know if you know this. So it's like, you come at dusk, it's like, for us,

it's like dawn. It's usually a problem if you see one in the daytime. Still kind of like, a little rusty. I don't know, I'm not an owl-ologist. You know, there's a show hypothetical that happened to a, well, a friend of a friend, let's call it. There was my partner Anthony, his broker, right?

They own a boat, we're down in Key West. During the storm, a black bag full of cocaine floated into their boats. I will give you one guess as to what they did. They had the party of their lives. I mean, they called the cops immediately. Aw, nerds. Can you imagine that, the authorities?

I mean, if they would have called Anthony first, you might never see me again. We did the math on this. It's about $2 million worth of cocaine in there. Oh, wow. You have to return that. You don't have to. Says who?

You don't have to do it. Well, you're guilty of a crime if you do not. I didn't know what was in it. If you get, if... They actually asked them, hey, did you keep any for yourself? And all they had to do was say, nope. See? What a great criminal defense. That'll surely work in a courtroom.

I didn't know what was in it. Not guilty. That would... Get me as your lawyer. Dave Chappelle, do that. I did not know what was in it. Not guilty. That would... Give me as your lawyer. I'm Dave Chappelle, do that. I did not know, I wasn't supposed to do that. Put it on the poll please, Juju, at Lebatard Show. Would you return $2 million worth of cocaine

that floated into your boat? And also put on the poll, is kindly euthanize redundant? Because I don't know if it is or not. If the creature is in pain. If it's not kind it's murder. Yeah can you unkindly euthanize is the question. I think of euthanization. Don't offer up any last words.

As an act you're trying, you're aspiring to kindness when you're euthanizing something. Yes, especially with animals. Humans, it's, you know, Dr. Kaborkin, it's complicated. Although there are these pods. I would think that, Tony, I would think that you should do the most that you can to help that owl, but I understand you not wanting to touch it. My Valerie was late to our first date

because she came upon a bird in a similar situation and she took it to a place that rescues birds nearby. You believe that? I would that. It's a good excuse if it wasn't true. I for one can't believe that Tony did that. Not the whole owl thing, just like answer a stranger's question in Miami. If someone asked me, do you know anything owls I just I don't know like I just keep moving. I was feeling good that day I was like yeah let me do a little joke here for my wife. Let me be kind to my neighbor and then now look look what happened. Owlologist I gotta

touch a dirty owl. If she asked me do you know anything about owls I would have been like Tom Herman's coaching there now. I was walking my dog at five o'clock this morning and a woman came up to me and the dog starts barking at her and she asks me, pointing to the beach, it's still very dark obviously, is that, is it safe out there? And I'm looking at her and I'm like, you're in Miami. I'm like, there's, there's like, there's nothing safe in the dark out here. Like there's nothing out here What is it about the ocean that it gets? Like substantially more dangerous the moment the lights go out because you go to the beach, right? You're walking around

There's no there's nothing there. You're just kind of hanging out the moment it gets dark Everything's there. Just waiting for you to come in a lot of predators feed. Do they? Yeah, with sharks, call them darks. Darks, oh, you know, some people call them predators too. Hey. Sharks, you were trying to say, keep it moving. Yeah, keeping it moving. But yeah, sharks, they tell you if you're afraid of sharks, stay out of the water during dusk and dawn,

those hours in particular, when visibility is also bad because you can have mistaken identity. You know, I'm here for your service, folks. Put it on the poll at Lebatard Show, is the ocean terrifying at night? I also used to avoid wearing yellow because when I was growing up they would call that yum yum yellow, but then Mythbusters for Shark Week special in the early aughts, they busted that one. Then you guys thought as kids that sharks like yellow things It was yum yum. You know, dude, like there's a lot of education on sorry sharks, man I just can't now I made it a coach of Texas

Well, I think you've been I understand if you would be afraid and leaking confidence since calling them darks. Yeah My proudest moment. Do bulls see red? Is that also a myth or is that real? There are bull sharks and they sometimes don't care. Yeah, I know that you're not a fish. I don't care, I'm hungry. That's not a myth, Tony.

That is why matadors, the capes are red because that is something that they use. I would say that one of the unsafest places on our beaches if you want to make sure to keep your property at night is outside of live uh... which is right on on the ocean where it is a maneuver by beautiful people in live to lure the party outside so that everybody goes into the water not wearing the clothes and everything that gets left inside the clothes, wallets and whatnot, gets stolen by people

who are working in coordination with the beautiful people inside of Liv. It's a crime factory. Did you see on 10th Street on South Beach, which is right by our old Clevelander, there was a saltwater crocodile on the shore. No way. Yeah.

No way. All the good stuff happens after we leave. Good stuff? A lot of bad stuff has happened too. Well, it happened while we were there. Yeah, but I mean, it's not like bad stuff's not bad. I wanna go back to this crime syndicate with beautiful people, and presumably ugly people

are doing the stealing, right? Like, you're not gonna waste a beautiful person going to go through wallets Right you need them in the club The breakers I Like that I'm imagining a meeting right like there's a one guy walking around everyone sitting on table You're probably wondering why I'll called you called you all here today says alright This is what we're gonna do you beautiful, beautiful people, go to the club,

have a good time, drink, lure them outside into the water. You, ugly people, wait until they're in the water, then grab the stuff. I'll be back here at HQ making sure everything goes all right. It's a good crime move, we'll agree, right? Everyone can agree that you can see tourists falling for that every time. Man, this is the luckiest night of my life.

I can't believe this beautiful person wants to skinny dip with me at one o'clock in the morning. What a great night in Miami. All of my things are gone when I get to shore. If you just heeded my advice, you'd say out of the water at that time. A lot has changed over the years, audience, as you've been so kind in pointing out. My shirt size has changed over the years. Look, I started this show as a 19 year old boy, and now I'm a 38 year old

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the number of dumb things in particular. We reviewed this movie on Cinephobe called Mike and Dave Need Wedding Dates, right? Oh, not a fan. Yeah. I mean, well, that's why I mean, that's what Cinephobe does. Although you have law abiding citizen on there this week. And that is banger. Rocks. That's a banger. Rocks. That scene in the courtroom where he goes off on the judge. Wow. Wow.

Goosebumps. That's a great movie. I don't like Jar butler. I heard you the other day say PS I Love You is a movie you cried at. I was like, are you out of your mind? I might have been. But this movie, I was was like I don't like them But man, I had to hand it to him acted his ass off. Really? How is he with the accent in that one?

I don't ever Terrible tough one. It's a very strong. It always sounds like he's eating something. Yeah, you got the lip right there but Mike and Dave knee wedding dates right in it there is a scene where the two Adam Adam Devine and... Is that Zac Efron? Zac Efron, yeah. They've got... That was a weird pool thing that he had, huh?

Yeah. Moving on. They had Aubrey Plaza and Anna Kendrick as their dates, and so the girls are really great on ATVs and they do these weird stunts or they jump off a ramp or whatever, and then the guys are expected to do in kind when all they wanted to do was go to Jurassic Park,

whatever. So my question at the time was, what's the dumbest thing you've ever done to impress a date? Like, or someone beautiful? Like, would it be running into the ocean and leaving all your clothes on the beach outside of Liv? Would it be riding an ATV and trying to jump over a ramp,

even though you have- Do you have a nominee here? Because you're gonna make me go through a data bank here. And does it have to be one singular act or can it be like over the course of a few days? Oh, over the course of a few days. If it increases in dumbness, that's even better. I love those types of stories.

I feel like everyone has a version of this where it's like you would never do this but because this beautiful person asked you. In sixth grade I lip-sync Girl on TV by LFO. Still gives me the heebie-jeebies. LFO is that new kids on the block kind of bunch of hits. Chinese food makes me sick. Really unfortunate story behind that band. They're basically cursed. Are they? Yeah I think unfortunate story behind that band. They're basically cursed. Are they? Yeah, I think just like F is around.

Yeah, cursed by making bad music. I mean, come on, it's too soon. Like two of them perished. Really? Yeah. Terminally. They made bad music before that happened though. Yes.

There you go. Tony, I feel like you've done some stuff. I've been with my wife for, since 2009. So early on you did not do anything dumb to impress her? I, yes. And the one story that I think of is, so at my parents' house, they have like a little kind of like roof outside in the backyard. There's like a roof that connects from the regular like triangle roof

to like kind of like a gazebo roof kind of thing. Not super sturdy, but sturdy enough that you can walk around on it and do things if you need to do work on it So the second Valentine's Day, I think we had together I was like 14 yeah, and I was like, you know what you know what I think I can do up there I think I could put a table up there with chairs and we can have dinner on the roof and that's nice See the stars. Yeah, it's very nice, right? So I it's very nice right so I take the table right I take it up I have my buddy of mine help me we put it up on the roof it works I'm like okay I think we're good here we both sat on the chairs it worked

whatever and I was like man so how am I gonna get her onto the roof without spoiling the surprise of hey we're here on the roof. Wow this one's tricky. This is a very tricky one. So my 20 or 17 year old brain is like you know what we can do? It's a good idea. We can blindfold her. Oh my god. And then we can take her up the roof via a ladder on another roof that we could climb up the triangle part down the triangle part into the roof right? Long story short we go pick up dinner I don't remember where. I have her blindfolded, I'm driving the car, I get back to the house, so I'm taking her with me, we're walking down,

and there's like a ladder that goes up to like a shed roof, to then the real roof, to then climb up the roof. So she's there standing blindfolded, and I'm looking at her, and looking at the roof, and I'm like, how in the hell am I about to do this? So for like 30 seconds, I'm just standing there. I grab a ladder pull her up. I basically push her up the ladder I'm like, all right. Don't worry. Just take a step here. Make a left there, honey. If this is an owl thing I'm gonna kill you

She finally makes it up. I make it up I walk her up and down and then she takes out the blindfold on the roof or whatever. It was incredible night Everything was great. Oh my god's incredible. You know, all these years later, we're married. We were going to have a kid. Everything was great. But the moment she takes a bad step on that roof or a shingle comes off and she flies off the roof and something happens to her. Not so you got a pregnant wife that you're greeting an owl with and she's in a wheelchair because you're paralyzed 17 years earlier. Exactly.

How'd you get the food up before or after her it was it was after so i sat her down And then i went back down and then i went back up again just left her on the roof by herself You took the blindfold off. No no she was blindfolded. I said don't move literally please do not move. You married a saint Does she like you? Very much so i have to to trust them too. I enjoy that uh that are mean identified to trust them too much. I enjoy that Amin identified, Tony, as you look like somebody who can have a story here as having done something extraordinarily dumb.

The only thing that I could think of is that outside of Bayside many years ago, I ended up having taken a gondola to an island that they put out food for you and stuff, and it's dark at night, you're near water, and there was so much movement in those trees that made me realize this romantic picnic that we're having in the dark is rat-infested.

Like, there's just a staggering amount of movement in these trees that is totally unacceptable. That'll kill, put it on the pole, Juju, will rats kill the romance very quickly on whatever it is you were trying to achieve. Yes, but I don't, I mean, it doesn't seem like a dumb idea on the front end. It just-

It never does, Dan. Well, yours does. That's the issue. No, but yours does, though. I had a couple people try to walk me off that one, and I was like, nope. Blindfolded or no? Doing it. Blindfolded on ladder seems like something

that's not going to work. You workshopped this with other people? Of course. How do you think I got the table up there? He was 17 years old. I workshopped it. I was like, guys, this is a big idea, right? They're like, I don't know.

I was like, I'm doing it. I mean, mine, I do have one. It was more of a money spending thing. So I'd only really dated two people in my life, as my ex-husband and my current partner. And Anthony, when we were first hanging out, wasn't really sure he could date guys. He knew he was into guys, but he really

didn't know if he could date guys, so he sort of ruled me out as dating. And I was like, okay, whatever. And so for my 40th birthday, I was like, I gotta do something, I'm divorced now, I wanna have some fun, I'm going to Vegas. I'd never been to Vegas. And I wanted to go all out, I wanted to go to EDC,

which is the Electric Daisy Carnival, so it's an EDM festival. And I was like, you know what, I'm taking you, I'm paying for everything. And just to level things out, not to make it weird, take my buddy Tony too, it's just a guy's thing, and really I was just trying to impress one of them. And the crazy part about this is me never having been

to Vegas was the itinerary that I put together. I don't know of partiers, like professional party people who could have accomplished the itinerary I put together. We're talking pool party in the day, EDC at night. Back to another pool party in the day, EDC at night. Just back to back to back. Two days? Five straight days.

Five days. Five days of two days in Vegas. Four straight and then I picked up a fifth day at the tail end and holy crap was that a mistake. Like I'm recovering from that to this day. Yeah this uh hearkens back to do you need a vacation sometimes after a vacation? Are they always relaxing? And no the the first place that I went is music festival vacations are never relaxing. The gauntlet that you just laid out seems unholy. I kept the itinerary just to show people in the future because it was wild and made it to all of them except one pool party.

Music festival is rampant enough. Vegas on top of that is excessive. We've been together for seven years since. I'm not saying it didn't work out. Clearly all of these stories, well mine doesn't end in anything other than, you know, a horrible memory of a rat situation. Did she know?

Yeah, it became very obvious. Yeah, occasionally she'll walk past a TV that's on mute on Highly Questionable and be like, I think that guy took me on the worst date that I've ever been on. That's rat boy. Rat guy. Remember Jamel Hale said,

like in her group text with her friends, every dude that they've dated has a nickname, there's mattress guy or whatever. Glazed donut. Glazed donut. Is one of them, yes. You're a rat guy in some group chat somewhere. Yeah, I mean, it was such a good idea on the front end, but when you asked me, did she know,

there was no not knowing. I mean, it was noisy. It was such a good idea on the front end, but when you asked me did she know, there was no not knowing. I mean, it was noisy. It was dark and I can tell that's too much movement. What is that? I thought it was owls initially. Shoulda called me. I'm not an owlologist. What do I know?

Mike seems like he's got one. You got a good one. I just had the LFO lip syncing thing. I've been with Cynthia for a very long time outside of like a brief moment in my 20s when I was single. What, I dropped a beer around somebody and been like, well, that's it, see ya.

Did Cynthia make you do that? Or did you do it like you think, oh, she's gonna like this? What, the lip syncing thing? No, I wasn't with Cynthia that early on. No, this was a different girl. You married a saint. It saved you from that life of just absolute plundery. Thank God cell phones weren't around back then.

I'd never survived that. When you talk about dropping a drink, I do remember, this is so funny. It's not a date, but it's hugely embarrassing, and it's a memory that has scars on it. So there was a woman on campus who I noticed her many different places and beautiful and I end up on an elevator with just her. And so now I've got nine floors to do whatever it is that I'm going to do here. Spits some game, baby.

Straight out of a movie. To a professor. Elevator pitch. Wait till you see how this ends. Wait till, thank you, yes, it's an elevator pitch and wait till you see what happens here. So I'm a little nervous on the front end and just instinctively, I look at my watch

just sort of nervously, right? Just forgetting I've got a soda in it, in my hands. Like, yes, and so I look at my watch and now I've just poured soda on my feet, like right in front of her. While I'm thinking about it, no, it gets worse. No, no, no. Oh, you're soda guy in that group chat. No, it gets worse. It gets worse. Now I'm in a hurry to get off the elevator, which stops a little short and I'm in such a hurry that

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Stugats I think he got I got a Chris Chris won this one for sure now that I Jeremy It was great. It was great This is the down Libertar show with the Stu guards Started watching rounders last night. I'm I'm just gonna turn into my dad or my dad watched movies from the 50s I'm just gonna be watching movies from the 90s because that's when movies were their best Rounders waterville, dude I had that same exact idea because we were listening to music as we were packing up the house the nineties because that's when movies were their best rounders. What a film. Dude, I had that same exact idea because we were listening to music as we were packing up the house because we were moving and we were listening to eighties music. And it was like, babe,

you know that this is like listening to music from the forties in the eighties, right? Like this is insane. It's wild. When people do that, when, whenever I see like we're actually closer, you know, to the, you know, Cuban missile crisis that we are actually closer, you know, to the Cuban missile crisis that we are to blah, blah, blah. That stuff always freaks me out. But yeah, it finally watched upon me because I just thought I was some dude that was appreciating nostalgia. But no, I'm slowly turning into that creepy old dad that just watched Turner Classic movies the entire time when I fire up rounders and I'm like, isn't this great? And it's 30 years old.

I can't believe that some of the movies like that, that I like when I attach 30 years to them, pulp fiction just turned 30 and I just can't believe stuff like that. Rounders came out in, in, in 98. So we're not quite there yet, but the reason why I had it on my brain was like Matt Damon just mentioned it in an interview. He's like, that's actually a sequel we've been talking about doing, revisiting these characters. Wouldn't it be interesting, especially Worm, wouldn't it be interesting to see their characters

now how the sport has changed, how poker has changed, and how everything around it has changed? It'd be an interesting story to revisit and it got me wanting to watch it and so far so good. I heard you guys talking about Beetlejuice 2 the other day. And I was- Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice. I'm not gonna say it again, but I don't think it's called Beetlejuice 2.

I think- No, it's Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice. Dan, let me tell you something. When you go to the movie theater, you think, you know, where they got all the show times, like this movie, that or that, you think they're gonna say, Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice, whatever the name is, or they're just gonna say're just gonna say beautiful just to ten o'clock two o'clock. That's how they do it

That's how I go. I go up the movie theater board if it's beautiful just to its beautiful Just so they're not we're not gonna we're not here for your cute little titles But my question was how do you guys feel about? Sequels not reboots, but sequels that happen like 30 years later like twister what? Like Twister, the other one I think about a lot is Wall Street, Money Never Sleeps. Yeah, is that a standalone sequel? Because I think you need to, since you have characters held over from the first one,

you need to know Gordon Gekko, right? No, it's an actual sequel. Gordon Gekko gets out of prison and- I like that. I think there are some interesting stories to be told that are probably sometimes made better by time changing things. Twisters stand alone, the sequels, that kind of gets.

That's a reboot. That's weird because there's like one or two anchors to the previous one, that feels like a reboot to me. Sorry, I almost got caught watching a movie called The Twisters. I think it was on Apple TV and I got like a minute in and I was like, wait a second, this is not that movie. That's not Helen Hunt.

Oh, Dan-O! Thursday, thunder time. it in and I was like wait a second this is not that movie that's not Helen Hunt oh oh oh Thursday Thunder time and it is sponsored by DraftKings stay tuned because you'll hear more about DraftKings and all it has to offer throughout the show DraftKings the crown is yours juju Gotti cooked up as usual the Thursday Thunder for this week and we'll give it to you quick first First leg Noah Liles, winner of the 200 meter race that's going on today at 230. I'm trying to do the math and I was at 1430. It would be cool. Here we go. Jujugari was hurting because Noah Liles sabotaged his last three-leg parlay. He got two out of three and then Noah Lyles loses in

a qualifier to a Japanese guy with a faux hawk. It happens to all of us. Over to the second leg of the parlay. Yeah, around 2008 for me. Bogdan Bogdanovic over 16 and a half points today in the Serbia versus U.S. game at three o'clock, which is 15 o'clock. Did we say 15 o'clock? 15 hundred. At three o'clock, which is 15 o'clock. Do we say 15 o'clock? quarter after 1500 1500 okay and in the 1500 game Serbia us what time is that? That's three o'clock 15 15 o'clock over seven and a half assists for LeBron James. So no Liles one of the men's 200 meter Bogdan Bogdanovich over 16 and a half points and LeBron James the King seven and a half over assist

We're gonna do something here with the postgame that Izzy cooked up for us that celebrates The departed Billy Bean I told you about him yesterday not the Oakland A's GM that Chris Russo accidentally eulogized but a baseball pioneer who I told you, the audience, and Izzy knows this, I've always associated with youth. That person has always looked incredibly young to me no matter what his age was

because he took such good care of himself so we're gonna do that in the postgame. But before we do that, I did wanna circle back around and talk about the loud mess that was made yesterday with Colorado fans because I was inundated with a lot of this yesterday. LeBittard is such a troll for giving this guy a platform for his made up story. And I don't know what's true here.

And I do believe that we grilled the journalist skeptically about his reporting. And it was only because Athlon Sports is not in the business of breaking news. And this story would have been a seismic one if it had been reported by an outlet that people trusted or believed in. But the number of people,

and I'm glad we have Izzy here as a trained journalist, the number of people who now think that things can be published because of what social media is that are just made up that things don't have to be lawyer that things don't have to be edited that there's not a process and rules to the reporting of things reminds me of a conversation that I've had for the better part of 15 years that is disappointing to me with people who care about journalism the way I do when I say flatly we've lost the game is over we've lost it's been undercut people don't understand how it is that

journalists come by their credibility it's because there's a rule and systems in place to make sure that we don't get sued even when I'm interviewing that guy yesterday I have to make sure with allegedly and reportedly that I am NOT taking the burden of responsibility of me reporting that there are guns in chaos in Dion's locker room because Dion can also sue me if I lend credence to a report that hasn't been vetted and Izzy I just want to talk to you because people don't care about all of this minutiae they don't care about journalism at all mainstream media at

this point might as well be a slur mainstream media the phrase might as well be a slur because people don't believe that journalists have to do some responsible things to get things in print and I just find it really disappointing that college football fans or sports fans think that journalists are routinely out here making things up as if that's not something that has consequences. And I felt bad for the writer yesterday when I was listening to it for a couple of reasons. You know, one, I think he, and you were sort of drilling him on this,

like you just said, and that in itself made me think, wow, Dan really needs to make sure that his listeners know that this person is a real journalist. And the reason that I felt bad for him is because back in the day, if you said, yes, I talked to the players They told me this okay We're good

Whether or not you think they have some sort of axe to grind or maybe they weren't telling the story exactly true because they're not There anymore whatever if you talked to a player you you report what that player said if they gave you the permission to whether they use Their name or not that to me is perfectly fair journalism Especially if you keep digging and you back it up and there's other people corroborating. And so it made me feel bad for him that he had to explain just sort of the basic rules of yes, I talked to people, they gave me information, I checked on it, I reported it. The idea that other entities are not following up on this, well, if they haven't done work on it, it's a lot of work to start from scratch. And you've got probably a lot of people now in the defensive mode, right?

Even those same players who came out and said things, even if they're in other schools, are now focusing on their school. They're focusing on their football. And they're probably only going to want to do that once. They don't want to get back in that mix. They don't want to be called a snitch and all this stuff. So I feel terrible for the writer because if it is true, and I believe it to be true, I have no reason to believe it not to be true, then he's getting the short end of the stick here by just people who are judging journalism in general,

and it's as you said, it's what has been done to journalism over the last, let's say, eight years. Do you remember years and years ago, Stephen A. Smith came out with a report when Kevin Durant was still in Oklahoma that he wants, he's gonna be a Laker, he wants to be a Laker, something like that, and Kevin Durant said, Stephen A. Smith made it up.

He stopped making stuff up. And Steve and A. had this very, you don't wanna make an enemy out of me. That whole thing, I remember explaining it to my friends at the time, who said, there's a difference between saying, you're wrong, your sources are wrong, your reporting is incorrect, you need better sources, and you made it up, right? And I think at that point this was a a

pre you know Donald Trump presidency America It was easy for people to understand like oh, okay Now because ever since Trump created this term fake news, there is a very strong reaction from people that if I hear something reported that is contrary to my beliefs or something that I like, it's not real, it was just made up. Like that's become the instant reaction. Yeah, that's where I find the reaction to a curious, not surprising because we've been living here in this reality and we're only invoking politics because someone mainstream gave license

to like, if there's a story I don't like, let me just call it fake and this is a new, this is a move now with a response to news. I think that yes, there's scrutiny that's applied and that what's the agenda that these players that have obviously left, what's their acts to grind? You can ask all those questions. To me, you called it a seismic thing. I think if you're a Colorado fan, that's really where you attack this thing, is like, okay, these players left.

You don't mean to tell me there aren't fights in a lot of locker rooms? It's not that big of a deal. If you want to tell me this just based on Deion's reputation and what he was gonna bring to Colorado, I'd say, okay That's probably like no, there's some bad things especially with the guns I think that stuff needs to be addressed and I think they've worked to address that coach prime has been strong in its offense there

but if you're a Colorado fan like for your default to be like this is fake to not be like This is a little blown out of proportion because it's us, because we have this spot like usually. Yeah, like that's usually, as a Persecutor Miami fan, like that's usually my pivot. Just the idea that your first off ramp isn't, it's incorrect, it's literally, he made it, like this dude was sitting like, I haven't blown up yet,

and what could I, I know. The combination though is interesting to me. The combination of you have this over here where people don't believe in the mainstream media and then you have the general zealotry that you find around college sports or sports in general. When Mike says Miami fans have a persecution complex, yes they do, but they were persecuted as well. Colorado fans may have a persecution complex. Yes, they do, but they were persecuted as well.

Colorado fans may have a persecution complex, but they've also felt persecuted, like legitimately persecuted because of how outsized the attention around their program is. And I get that, but they have a charmed existence too. They're immediate. I would say more than anything, they're immediate darling. Like we'll see if they don't have success.

I can see this unraveling because Coach Prime. And because of all those other factors that go into this, fair and unfair, like I could see this going really sideways if they don't have success. But I would say generally it's a charmed existence. You have people giving you credit and broadcasting from your campus because they love this story. You say charmed existence, but charmed existences generally aren't this polarizing. A lot has changed over the years, audience. As you've been so kind in pointing out, my shirt size has changed over the years.

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