The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 2: Getting Caught In the Rain

Episode Date: May 30, 2024

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So those are our three, plus 558 is what you're looking at for the Civil Game Parlay on Thursday Thunder. Great job. That song always reminds me of Money Money Money by ABBA. Money Money Money. Do you know? No? Yeah.

No. Hold on a little more. Yeah. Sounds like that song. Pedro Pedro Pedro. Sure. A little more. Yeah, of course Kind of like this on Pedro Pedro Pedro Sure a little more that we could get sued if we keep singing Yes money money Charlotte and you landed the yesterday had it started rating yet or did it start ready? Hold on. Did you say ABBA sings that? Yes, you know ABBA has songs in Spanish. Yes. Yeah ABBA sings that? Yes. You know ABBA has songs in Spanish? Yes.

Yeah, ABBA sings in Spanish. The Swedish, are they Swedish? They are Swedish. Yeah, full blown Spanish. How is it? It's in Spanish. They sound very similar, language is different. Yeah, like imagine the words in English, but in Spanish.

Yeah. Wait, they do Spanish versions of the songs that they already have hit? I think that some of the songs are just in Spanish Yeah, I'm pretty sure I grew up on some of those Spanish Yes, you know it That's give me give me give me yeah, that's a different song. Give me give me give me money money money Did you forget the words of the song no, but they're but but they have two songs where the word is repeated three times

As the name of the song both in English. Wait, is that the same song? No, but they have two songs where the word is repeated three times as the name of the song. Both in English. Wait, is that the same song? No, it's not. I sang, gimme, gimme, gimme. Your song, money, money, money is completely different. Wait, is Mamma Mia in English or Spanish? Mamma Mia.

Italian. Here we go again. But Mamma Mia is in Spanish too. Mamma Mia. Yeah. They had a Spanish language album that was released in Spain. So that's where all these songs come from.

But is it Spanish versions of their English language hits? Let's find out. Yeah, Spanish covers, that's how you do it. I know it plays in my house. That's all I know. Really? Yeah. It is. Are they, okay. Yeah.

So it is Dame Dame Dame un hombre after midnight because I don't have to do that for in Spanish It's Medianoche. Yeah, there you go. Is that the money money money song? Maybe you heard dami dami dami and you understood money money money whatever song I'm thinking of it sounds like the background of Thursday Are you sure it's ABBA? Does it go blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu blu and go, brrrr brrrr brrrr, brrrr brrrr brrrr. That's a Madonna song, isn't it? That's Madonna. It's called sampling. It's called sampling, kids. See, once upon a time, people made their own songs,

but then people started saying, hey, you know what? I think I could make a pretty dope song if I use this part of this music. And then people got lazy and they're like, why would I interpolate? Why don't I just take the whole thing and just sing something else over it and call it a song? And DJ Khaled was born.

Back to you, Charlotte. Okay, yeah, so when I landed yesterday, it had not started raining yet. But in the past month, I have gotten caught in the rain three times, like torrential downpours. I was outside, you know, I live in Brooklyn. I was walking to the grocery store. I walked back three times, just completely soaked.

And it made me think, you know the song, if you like, Pina Colada, getting caught in the rain. And I was like, I'm sorry, first of all, who likes getting caught in the rain? This sucks, I do not like getting caught in the rain. Second of all, how crazy do you have to be to make the second thing on your item where you're looking for a potential mate,

you must like getting caught in the rain. How many times did that guy get swiped left on? That's crazy. That's a whole song. And then his wife, even though they're both trying to cheat on each other, How many times did that guy get swiped left on? That's crazy! Right? That's a whole song. And then his wife, even though they're both trying to cheat on each other, she also wants someone who likes getting caught in the rain. It's like you were the only two people on planet Earth for each other.

Why were you trying to leave in the first place? That's why. It's a story of love. Yeah. If you set it free and it comes back, that's you know it's real. Do you guys like getting caught in the rain? Is there something romantic about it? In my short-lived football career, it wasn't romantic, but I liked caught in the rain? Is there something romantic about it in my short-lived football career?

It wasn't romantic, but I like practicing in the rain really well It was so hot and it was fun because there was mud you could slide Yeah, it was great. There's a great scene in the big green a soccer movie with the football in Europe It's in it right. Yes the goats in it. Yeah, and they play soccer in the rain in the mud So I guess I would like that It's an actual goat that they painted green. That's animal cruelty. Izzy, how do you feel about getting caught in the rain?

I try to avoid it. I do not enjoy it. I hate specifically small, painful, cold rain, the effing worst. But there's some more detail. I think he hails to this song, the Pina Colada song, that we are avoiding, right? Isn't it just a weird breakup,

but there's something else to it, right? So it's a guy, he puts out a classified ad looking for love or whatever. He's got a wife or a girlfriend or whatever, but it's like, this thing isn't working. And it's very specific, if you like Pina Coladas, get Caught in the Rain, if you're not, love making love at midnight,

if you love champagne, right? All that stuff, right? So then he gets a response, says, meet me at this bar. And he goes to the bar and he's like, oh, you're gonna meet this other person who loves piña colada and get caught in the rain, whatever. And the third verse is like, as I looked up, like this person's familiar, it's my lovely lady.

And instead of them being like, you try to cheat on me? No, you try to cheat on me? They're like, you know what? We were meant for each other. And that's the piña colada. And also the third thing is you can't be into yoga. In a partner, they mean to like, you know what? We were meant for each other. And that's the piña coladas. And also the third thing is you can't be into yoga. In a partner, they're not like I want someone kind and funny and good looking.

They're like no, no, no, you gotta like piña coladas. You have to like getting caught in the rain and you have to hate yoga. I thought of somebody. And if you like champagne, you gotta like champagne. I thought of somebody who would like being caught in the rain, because I was thinking about my childhood

and it's a lot of weird things if I really think about my childhood with my dad that he did, it was just like, not really proud of that. But I believe he took a shower outside in the rain a couple of times, like in our backyard. Like maybe just in an underwear. And that's what I'm thinking, maybe Greg Cody would enjoy getting caught in the rain,

because he's just like, well, you know what, two birds, one stone, let me get a little shower in here, boom, back to that. Say some water. I could see that being really fun as a little kid though. It's like, ooh, it's a fun shower. Sometimes if it's like really hot, I'm like, I'm gonna go for a lap around the block and rain.

Okay, so Billy is one of the people that gets caught in the rain. I could come back in and like shower after, but if it's lightning, then you can't shower. Like that's a thing. You can't shower? Well, so I got into a shower last night as there was lightning outside

and I wondered if I was gonna get electrocuted. How do you guys think the electricity works? I don't know how it works. It goes through the pipes. It goes straight to faucets. There's an old Cuban myth that says you can't take a shower during a lightning storm because the lightning might hit your house,

go through the pipes, and then shock you while you're in the shower. Correct, and you're standing in water, so it's even worse. Exactly. I love the idea of the lightning like making a left turn like wait no the pipe goes this way, hold on, let me go. According to the Cleveland Clinic Health Essentials,

it says that you should refrain from showering for at least 30 minutes after the last thunder roll you hear. That's like the swimming, see? I put my life into my hands. That's ridiculous, absolutely not. Yeah, it's the Cleveland Clinic. Exactly. Who's getting cured by going to Cleveland?

Let's be honest. I feel like that's where people go to die. Not us. Huh. Very good hospital. Quick question. While we're on the topic. Where are we going from here?

I don't know. I'm up in the air right now. No, I want to go back to the idea of delivery, right? And as a choice. General, like being saved. As a choice. I wanna go back to the idea of delivery, right? As a choice. General, like being saved. As a choice, no, no, not that kind of delivery. I'm delivered, not that kind of delivery. He gets it.

Delivered. Like the idea of as a choice. I did not realize that there were people who could get their own shit, but choose to order the delivery just because they don't feel like it. Yeah. Most people. Most people. Really?

Yeah. What? I get delivery because it's, I can't, either I can't because I can't get up and leave, or I can't because I don't have a car. So you thought delivery apps were just for people who don't own cars or are handicapped in some way? Or busy, can't leave the desk because I'm working. So you never Uber Eats at home?

Never. You don't think anybody's lazy? I guess when you put it like that. You think everybody's lazy? I think everyone's stupid, that's a different. I mean I have ordered delivery from Uber Eats from a place that's diagonally across the street from me. Why?

Because I just wasn't ready to leave the house. I just wasn't ready, you know what I didn't have to do that time? Choose't ready to leave the house. I just wasn't ready, you know what I didn't have to do that time? Choose priority, right across the street. And yet. How quickly did it arrive? It was pretty quick.

40 minutes. Do you give a bigger tip or like a smaller tip for inconveniencing someone so little? I put a standard tip, it's not a percentage, I do not let Uber Eats fool me on the percentage. And then I relitigate after the delivery. Because you can adjust, you can customize your tip afterward.

So if it was a, like if I didn't have to think about it, if I just opened my door and accidentally, oh wow, the food's here, didn't even know that, I'm going back in there, they're getting a tip because my condo's a little confusing, it's a one way street. You're giving them more. I give them more, right.

If it's a situation where I have to make a phone call, I'm going back to, and they're rude. I've made a phone call and they're super nice, maybe they don't speak English. I'm like, all right, I'm not gonna do that. Wait, you can take a way tip? Yeah. Oh, that's terrible.

You can adjust your tip. I don't like that. What's the standard for you, service, as far as, what needs to happen for them? I'm okay if I get like, because I have delivery instructions in my Uber thing, so it's not like, so if you cannot follow those instructions and you give me a hard time, I'm reducing your time.

They never look at it. But I'm saying, so okay, all right. What's the thing that when they do it, they don't get extra and they don't get. So there's a door before my door, right? So you open the door to get into the building and then there's the four doors, whatever. When they put the food outside,

where like an iguana can go get that thing, I'm like, yo, it was clear as day, you gotta look for the door with a one on it, not just some random door. You think I live in this castle? I live in an apartment in this castle. Well, you have a boat, so. That's true, and messy's your neighbor.

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There's one other meaning, bud. Five, four, three, two, one. Sorry, Bert. Yeah, she's perfect that way. That what she just did there, she's been doing to me, and she doesn't do it on purpose. And you're going to keep all of that in, me counting us in, and her just ignoring the count.

How are you not better at this yet, Mina? You're excellent at the doing in general of television, but the timing and general of television, but the timing and mechanics of things you simply refuse to respect. You're not a real radio show anymore. You have editing capacity. Things don't always come out.

It's not in real time. I don't have to respect your radio boundaries when it's like radio cosplay now. Not true because I'm counting down to an entire video team that is waiting for my countdown to assemble and when you talk during it, you're the only one who does that. It's a veritas.

It makes people feel like they're in the room with us. I bet people like it, put it on the poll. Oh, I will agree with that. They will like anything that annoys me around here. The entire currency and economy around here is built around annoying me. A lot of stuff these days in OU. Ain't that the truth?

I've got a number of different things to ask you about, but before Charlotte leaves here, I want to get into, you got caught in the rain. It was unpleasant. You guys just talked about it, and I want to get into, you got caught in the rain, it was unpleasant, you guys just talked about it, and I wanna know how Mina feels about your assessment of being caught in the rain. Well, here's the thing, we talked about this,

there's a whole song. If you like pina coladas and getting caught in the rain, and first of all, I was like, I've gotten caught in the rain three times in the past month, who likes getting caught in the rain? Secondly, what a weird thing to have be the number two priority in a partner. You're like not someone nice or funny. It's like, No, I want someone who likes getting caught in the rain. It is oddly specific. And then you have to

hate yoga. I don't know, Mina, do you like getting caught in the rain? It I think that there's a pretty important distinction here is it depends on the kind of rain getting caught in the Seattle or San Francisco rain is miserable Getting caught in the Seattle or San Francisco rain is miserable. Being caught in tropical rain, which I guess is sort of implied by the pina coladas,

is delightful. Like in Hawaii or Miami at times, if it's warm rain. But you still get it, you're getting all, you're soaked and then you have to change and then your hair and then, oh, it's a whole thing. One time I was ziplining insane kits in a rain forest and it started raining mid line and I thought it was incredible.

Okay, that sounds nice. Let me ask you this, are you an umbrella person or a raincoat person? Because... Raincoat. Okay, that's a very Northeast Northwest thing. Raincoat! I'm broken.

All right, I have to go record Oddball. You guys are making fun of me. See you later. It's great to see you, Mina. Let me get my raincoat. Thank you. What? I've lived in Miami my whole life.

I've never carried either of those things, and it rains here all the time. Tony, you burst out laughing. You sent her from the room. She just fled because you laughed at her putting on a raincoat. It's like a yellow rubber raincoat, like if you're the fisherman, Gordon's fisherman

for the fish sticks. It's full of poncho out of her backpack. We have like a windbreaker. This is regional. People in the Northeast and the North at West wear raincoats and they look down on people with umbrellas. People in the Southern half of America are more likely to use umbrellas

and very unlikely to own raincoats. Have you ever seen someone in Miami with a raincoat? No. It doesn't make sense though. There's no reason. It's the same rain, I guess, aside from the temperature. How about rain boots?

Yeah. Is that a Northeast thing? Everybody in the North, yes, in the North, everybody owns rain boots in the Northern half of America. Be so fun. And in Seattle, people make fun of people who use umbrellas. Like it's like a sign of weakness, I guess. I mean, the umbrella, let's evolve the umbrella, shall we? Like are we all stuck?

There's been evolutions of the umbrella. They have umbrellas now that they fold, they go like this, instead of going down and then you get all wet, they go, and they go the opposite way and then the water goes out. Yeah. Dan, umbrella is number five on my list of things that I don't understand why society has not improved upon. Oh wow, all right.

Let's do, we got a top five list? All right, well we've already announced number five. The work in progress. So give her the fanfare for number five. She just announced number five, Billy. Things that you would have thought would have progressed more by now. So number five's umbrellas

Car seats Why putting my kid in a car seat somehow no matter How it's oriented every single time is like wrestling a bear and the straps are always too tight or too too loose They're never exactly right. I've never seen a car seat that's easy to use and comfortable, parents? I think we evolved too far on car seats. Simpler was easier.

Like how many kids died in car accidents? I don't actually wanna know the answer to that, but I feel like a simpler car seat would be a lot easier, right? Guys, we've evolved. The kids used to not have any seat belt. They're just like, yeah, throw them back there. That's true. There's still countries today. We still evolved the kids used to not have any seat belt. They're just like yeah throwing back there. That's true Front right and I'm misremembering that now car seats

You can't face the front kids got to face away from me, which is me matter kids can't sit in the front anymore They can't smoke kids can't do anything I wonder when the car seat was invented where they're like babies in the front seat with a seat belt just sitting there I go for it was no seat belt I never spent any time of my life in a car seat ever Wait, what did you do with the baby? Were you just rattling around in the back like like a loose peanut? I do not remember what I did

But I know my parents did not have a car seat that did not come up until the fourth child in my family There's actually like crazy like those old videos that you see like on Twitter or Instagram or whatever that looks like it's like history channel stuff of like war era children and like you have to see what they use as like strollers and car seats at the time. Like they would have like basically like a stick with a wheel on it and then you'd fold down a little seat and it had a handle bar and it's like kid you need

to sit there and hold on and that's how you're gonna get around, that was a stroller. Great generation. Kids are soft like Fred Hoiberg. Number three. Okay this is hold on and that's how you're gonna get around. That was a stroller. Great generation. Kids are soft, like Fred Hoiberg. Number three. Okay, this is very specific and it's something that I added to the list while I was at the dentist. But whenever you go to the dentist and you get your teeth x-rayed, they jam a giant piece

of plastic into your mouth that cuts your gums and every single time I'm like, why is it this bad? Why is it this bad? They're like, bite down harder. I can't, it's digging into the roof of my mouth. How? How in 2024 do we not have something better than the giant hunk of plastic they shove into your gums that cuts your gums?

That's all I'm saying. I gotta tell you though, Mina, I just changed from an old school dentist to a super modern dentist, and all of a sudden I feel like I'm going to the spa when I go to the dentist. It doesn't have any of that. How does your old school dentist feel about that? Not great.

I feel some shame. It's an old Cuban. Oh, wow. Turning them back on our people. You should have waited it out, Dan. I couldn't. Really? It was just, there were too many things going wrong.

Number two. Okay, number two. How do we not know how old dogs are? I don't know if anyone has adopted a dog and you bring in the dog and you ask the vet, do you know how old this dog is? And I don't know, it's like, you know, when you cut a tree and you can count the number of rings,

how is there not something like that for I don't want you to cut a dog in half, but they should be able to look inside the dog and tell you this dog is 12 or 13. Once we took our dog Lenny to the vet and the vet took one look at him and said, yeah, he's four years old. And I said, that might be true

if I hadn't had him for 10 years. I can't believe that this is a worst top five list than David Sampson's, which in a lawless society, he was just rooting for polygamy, more guns, and baseball's antitrust exemption to be taken away. No, your list is great until where you just got with number two, which was just a stunning development. How do we not know how old dogs are?

Number one. What, does anyone disagree with me about the dogs? No, I've actually had this conversation before, and I even made the don't cut the dog in half joke before. Wow. From the woman who said Seinfeld's not funny, don't cut your dog in half, okay. King Solomon.

By the way, that aged well, Dan. Okay, question, number one. You said, you started a sentence with, what's the deal? I thought you were doing Seinfeld. Am I right parents? Okay. Number one, again, this is the one I cannot believe. And this list is on my phone.

And basically I add to it every time I encounter these problems in my life. The dentist, the vet, number one is at the airport. How is airplane boarding protocol not better? How will we not solve this? How do we still have people getting on at the wrong time, standing in the way of lines? Why do we have flight attendants who permit people

to board out of their designated groups, which encourages the bad behavior and slows up the entire process? The whole thing is an unbelievable mess, and I just can't help feel it does not have to be this way. The problem I think with that is like classism and ego just can't help feel it does not have to be this way. The problem I think with that is like classism and ego, right?

Because the best way to board a plane is last row first. So you board back to front but the prime seats are in the front and they want to get on first so that they have the overhead space and they're not bothered and all that. But like if you're doing it for efficiency, you do it back to front because then everyone like last row first, everybody kind of do it that way. It used to do that way At least I remember it was pretty cheesy back in those days when there were no car seats and kids get smoked You had to escalate you just walk up the stairs. There's a stairs in the front stairs in the back

Where do you say front or back go fights still do that some airlines still do that The problem is what I alluded to which is they don't actually enforce boarding groups uniformly I alluded to which is they don't actually enforce boarding groups uniformly so people still try to board out of turn or there's general confusion about whether or not you can board. Okay, here's the thing. This thing in my hand can tell me literally everything. Why not activate your boarding pass when you're allowed to board and deactivate it when you're not allowed to board?

I was going to go shot collars. I was going to go shot collars, Mina, but that is way better. That's way better. No, because the thing is, is like, do you wanna hold up the line for everyone that cut the line and then like, no, that delays it. So that's why the people that skip the line actually win because it's like, well, I'm not gonna make everybody wait

because you're one people away. No, you have to have a sin bin on the side. You have to have a place that shames them. If you're not here, you have to stay in this little telephone booth. You can't shame them. Or, new protocol, if you board out of turn knowingly, you have to board last. Then your thing goes beep, beep, beep, and you have to go.

It's like at the Outback Steakhouse, when they give you the thing that buzzes when it's your turn to dine. How do we not have that for boarding? Like a regular restaurant, you mean? Closing like 100 Outback Steakhouses. I don't know if you knew that. Get your bread now.

Like a restaurant buzzer, is that what you're saying? Yes, like a restaurant buzzer. Do they only have them at Outback? Well, no, she was just using Outback asakhouses, I don't know if you knew that. Get your bread now. Like a restaurant buzzer, is that what you're saying? Yes, like a restaurant buzzer. Do they only have them at Outback? Well no, she was just using Outback as an example. They're not exclusive to Outback. You can get them all. Look, who here has been in group six and gone in group three?

Who among us, am I right? You've been in group six? No, no! This is really a there's two kinds of people discussion and I feel like we're learning who's who. You're talking to a bunch of millionaires, Tony. You can tell a lot about what happens around here who's who by the people discussion and I feel like we're learning who's who just by the way you guys have reacted. You can tell a lot about what happens around here but I would say that I think something you're doing there,

if it's gonna be about iPhones, there's some classism involved, right? Because not everybody has phones. You need everybody to have phones or you're handing out buzzers? Hand out buzzers. Yeah, but what if you keep the buzzer? Then there's no buzzer for the next person.

People will steal anything, no matter how stupid it is. They'll steal those buzzers just to have it. Like, why do people steal 3D glasses at theme parks? You can't do anything. Life is already in 3D. I would estimate probably 90% of people who are boarding now use electronic tickets and the remaining 10% can pay attention to the screen when it's their time. It's a good idea. You've got a good idea. We are this close to crowning an NBA

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Love conquers all. You want to, in fact, this is the most romantic you've ever been. You are constantly wanting to talk about the greatness of Jordan Love. You just drafted the top 10 quarterbacks on your podcast. Where'd you put him? So I didn't put him here, but I would have taken him near here, which was he finished fifth. And it's a three year timeline

that doesn't account for contract. By the way, I'm not obsessed. I just texted you twice, Dan, twice. I mentioned Jordan Love in text, it's fine. But I think it's deserving. And the rebuttal to that would be, well, he was awesome for half a season. Second half of the season last year,

he finished top two in just about every quarterback metric, which is wild. QBR, QBR in first down, QBR under pressure, play against the Blitz. He was incredible. So if you're a Packers fan, or I guess anyone, you might look at that and say, well, is that too small of a sample size to give him this 50, $60 million contract because he really bet on himself contractually. And I think it's not because I think he showed enough

in that second half of the season for me to feel comfortable saying he is that guy. Couple of things really jumped out. One, it wasn't like they were all easy, schemed up throws. He was making difficult throws. He was creating, he was pushing the ball downfield aggressively. And then the other thing that I think is really important. Matt Lepore is a great play caller and he played behind a good offensive line,

but he was playing with the youngest group of skilled players in football. So you can look at the season and say, well, he was markedly better in the second half of the season. Maybe that's a small sample size. I would argue, of course, he was better in the second second half the season because his receivers were so young naturally it took some of the season for everybody to get on the same page find their roles and their chemistry if I was a Packers fan I would be over the moon with what you saw from Jordan Love last year going back and rewatching him he is as good as I remembered. She mentioned her podcast it's the Mina Kime Show featuring Lenny.

It's got better football information than you'll find anywhere. So I urge you to find it. And she dorks out. She really does love this stuff in a way that's totally unreasonable. So when you draft him or when he gets drafted fifth on your podcast, your assessment right now,

if I say the best quarterbacks in the sport next year how high are you just personally putting him because what you've seen suggests to you that the Packers have an all-timer quarterback? I think just in a one-year timeline as opposed to a three-year timeline I would say I feel like he's already a top eight quarterback which is wild to say. And how fast are you expecting him to get better because of all the factors that you just cited? Like, where is he going to be? Because if we'd all be talking about this right now, Mina, if he had won one more

game last year and if one more game had been won by him, he would not. Your effusive praise would be something everybody would have been saying. him. He would not your your effusive praise would be something everybody would have been saying. I think generally there's a consensus that him and Stroud both arrived. Maybe it seems like people are a little bit higher on Stroud, even though they both, you know, ended their playoff runs after a surprising win. I feel like if he plays this year, like you did in the second half of last year,

that we don't need to see him take another leap. He has already taken that leap. I am a little bit, when I think about regression on the part of the Packers, I'm actually a little bit more concerned about the players around him because they are so young, you know, you don't have those top draft picks at receiver. But I really like what I saw out of them too. I think guys like Dantavian Wicks, Jayden Reed, it was seen as kind of this like ragtag group of receivers

who weren't good enough for Aaron Rodgers, the ones who were with him on the team. And they were all playing really good football at the end of last season, which is a testament not only to Jordan Love, but also to Matt LaFleur, who I think is one of the best coaches in the NFL. Mina I think you tell me if I have this wrong I think that we're in such an interesting era in football because

winning can be found in the margins and the salary cap makes it so you have to be smarter about how you're spending your money than others so the analysis of the finances of the game are almost as intriguing as the measurements of the players. When the Dolphins give Jalen Waddle three years for $84 million, $76 million of it guaranteed, when they've got to get quarterback value and they're not going to, they might get quarterback great play, but they're not going to get to a cheap. What do you make of the Dolphins paying waddle when Tyreek Hill is at least in Miami

because Kansas City couldn't pay everybody? Yeah, I think that it was a good deal for both team and player. You know, Justin Jefferson, T.D. Lamb, Jamar Chase are about to dramatically clear this latest spate of deals. Waddle, Devontae Smith, TD Lamb, Jamar Chase are about to dramatically clear this latest spate of deals, Waddell, Devante Smith, Nico Collins all just got years deals done that were all by the way, three-year deals if I remember correctly with Smith as well, which I think is interesting because that's sort of the compromise to the player. Yes, we're not blowing up the

wide receiver market knowing that these other guys are going to get paid. But as a consension, this is just a three-year deal. You're going to have another bite at the apple pretty quickly. And by the way, that second bite is probably going to go inside with Tyree kill either being off the team altogether or at his decline or out. His deal will be done by then. So you'll have the opportunity to sort of prove by the end of Tyree still, you're the number one wide receiver in this offense and then you're going to get paid an insane amount of money so you can see why Waddle did it as well. I think to your question though Dan about kind of contracts it's one thing I've noticed and I think there's a better understanding of this amongst fans who seem to now understand contracts at a much higher level than they did a few years ago. understand contracts at a much higher level than they did a few years ago. When you do these big deals, and I think this is something people gather when they're talking about,

okay, if we pay Tua, et cetera, because the signing bonuses are so large, we can actually save money in the first one, even two potentially years of the deal that allows us some cap flexibility to do other deals like this. Tua, you do what with everything happening there? Jared Goff gets $50 million a year. He looks great in OTAs. It has been reported that he was unhappy with the initial contract offer. Is Tua about to become someone who's over Goff in payment? Can he just sit there and wait and become the second highest paid quarterback in the league behind Joe burrow It's so tricky because the golf deal is a great

point of comparison Because and actually they were drafted right next to each other in my quarterback draft and I think of them as being pretty similar quarterbacks and that they're both You know able to execute these offenses at such a high level play within structure. They're both so good when they're protected. They both get the ball out very quickly. They both struggle under pressure. And the Lions have this incredible offensive line, so it's not been a problem.

Miami does not have an incredible offensive line, but the combination of the way Tuah plays, the speed of the receivers, and the scheme that optimizes all those things mitigates the pressure. So you end up at a play stand where Tua is more valuable in Miami than I think he would be on other teams. I think if he hit the open market, it would not be as desirable as,

or I mean, he would not be, pardon me, as fought over as one might think. And I don't think in a way that's commensurate with his value in Miami. So if you're in Miami, you're thinking, okay well why would I overpay this guy knowing that other teams might not pay him over Jared Goff? And that's I think the tricky situation they're in.

I think ultimately you probably are gonna see a deal similar to what Jared Goff got. I think anything over that, I personally would be a little uncomfortable with. Kenny Pickett, I thought it was a curious decision for him to choose Philadelphia. Then he gets to OTAs and people are saying, hey, behind that offensive line, he's making it look easy.

He's outplaying Jalen Hurts during OTAs. I'm not saying that that is so, but I have wondered how good Jalen Hurts is only because it feels to me like, you know, the other 10 players on the Eagles, I've seen when they're really good, they make Nick Foles the Super Bowl MVP. So it makes it hard for me to measure how good Jalen Hurts actually is. Yeah. And we're obviously, we're two years removed from Jalen Hurts being talked about as a rival to Patrick Mahomes. But our last memory of him, of course, is him putting a really bad performance in

the playoffs and sort of the Eagles offense imploding in the second half of last season. I think the reality is the truth was always somewhere in the middle, which is because of his situation, not just the offensive line, but the skill player, everything in Philadelphia. When Shane Steichen was the offensive coordinator, he was bolstered a little bit by that. I also don't think he's as bad of a quarterback as we saw at the end of last season. I think there's a few things he really has to improve upon. However, this coming year for me to once again think of him as being in the top 10. He has to be better, significantly better against the Blitz. He has to be better at throwing over the middle of the field. And then you'd want to see him be as dynamic a runner as he was in 2022 because he was really not last year and that was actually

a major issue and a source of a lot of the Eagles defenses or offense problems because defenses didn't respect it the same way. I was curious for your expertise yesterday when we were talking about for content purposes what is the best result for Aaron Rodgers and the Jets? I think I saw a quote from Aaron about the fact that the Jets have so many Monday night games and I think he said, well, people love to, I'm paraphrasing, but it was something like people like to watch me to root against me or for me. And I thought, well, that's the first time I've agreed with you.

I think that's true. I agree with him. I think he has become such a polarizing figure in what he represents to people now goes outside of football and obviously invokes culture war stuff in a way that I think adds this extra layer of intrigue to his success or failure. I don't think it matters, Dan. I think all that matters is that he plays and that it's interesting. And I'll say this, the jet schedule is after the week one opener against San Francisco. It's really easy. You can go pull it up. I think that after that,

they're playing rookie quarterbacks maybe in three of the next four games and will love us depending on when Drake may plays and that Jets defense is as fearsome as ever. So I think what we are potentially setting up here for here is six or seven weeks into the season, the Jets having a five and one, something like that record, frankly, regardless of how Aaron Rodgers. When I did wins and losses jet schedule yesterday, Dan kicked me out of the room. But now we're doing wins and losses with Mina for the jet schedule and it's fine. And you said the same thing she said.

The exact same thing. But you said the same thing before her. And you go and you poop on God Bless Football and you say that it's not a good podcast. Is Meena gonna talk to Adam Schefter's mom this week? I don't think so. I did not say that God Bless Football was not. I met her in an elevator on a cruise ship. Small world.

Where else are you getting that information? Exactly right, I talked to an insider's insider. I did not say that God Bless,. Well, he was inside her. Dan. Dan. Because we can. Dan. She gave birth to him.

Real subtle. Dan. Dan. It's. Oh, wow. Breaking news. Great timing. Dan, Met's relief pitcher, Jorge Lopez,

has commented on the situation. He was designated for assignment after throwing his glove into the crowd. They then spoke to him. He's commented? Hold on. He was designated for assignment after throwing his glove into the crowd. They then spoke to him. He's commented, hold on. He has taken to Instagram stories to comment. Mina, do you know anything about this story? This is news to me.

What happened? He threw his glove into the crowd? Let's play, yeah, he threw his glove into the crowd, but let's just play the interview for Mina, if we could, real quick, so that people can have the context and Mina can have the context on what it is that happened with this story listen to this he throws his glove into the crowd they end up he's unemployed after these comments

close windows is said that he understands the emotion but that particular action of throwing your gloves into the stands is unacceptable looking back on it do you regret not only i don't regret it it. I think I've been looking the worst team in probably in the whole MLB so You know whatever happened happened. So Well, what tomorrow here is they want me you know, whatever they want to do so I'm gonna keep doing this thing you know so what did you hear

there though Mina though because I as soon as I saw that interview I felt bad for him because I'm like oh he's doing this in his second language and I don't think he's using the right words I don't think they understand what he's trying to say my okay yeah that's a good point my read on it was he was saying we were facing the worst team no no he was saying that they though they're the worst team but is this news a clarification of that clarification? Well so what ended up happening Mina is people then started tweeting out that he said that he's on the worst team in Major League Baseball and he was designated for assignment. Then there was a

clarification by a reporter and he seemed equally as confusing. He's like yeah yeah yeah that's what I said. Well, he has now taken to Instagram stories because someone put a story out saying he said he's on the worst team probably in the whole FNMLB. And he said, quote, whoever hear me, I said teammate. And what I said on the situations, I've been the worst teammate.

Thanks, media, for making it worse. Oh, no, he was trying to say teammate? I'm the worst teammate? He called himself the worst teammate because of how he's behaved. It took me until the third time to hear it, but I heard that. How could he be talking about himself if he said I'm looking at... So they were up by... it was a 3-3 tie. They left and I think it was like 8-3. Oh, they were looking at the worst teammate?

Yeah, he's the worst teammate. Yeah, now he's out of a job. And he said I'll be here tomorrow, but he's not. Because they said no thank you. And he doesn't have a glove now, so how's he even going to play on another team? Mina, good seeing you. I'm sorry that breaking news interrupted your last thoughts. Airplane boarding protocol. I just want change.

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