The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 2: Goodbye, Chris Wittyngham

Episode Date: February 14, 2024

We finally pay tribute with a video to our favorite EP in the history of the show, Chris Wittyngham. Then, Dan says the guard has changed in the NBA, Jessica has lunch for Valentine's Day, Roy works from home, and Stugotz fakes his way through an interview with Lil' Dicky. Plus, Justin Tinsley of Andscape is here to talk Brandon Marshall's claim about Kanye West and Taylor Swift, Usher, Russell Simmons, and Beyoncé's upcoming album. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

You're listening to Giraffe Kings Network. This is the Don Lebatore Show with the Stugatz Podcast. Organizationally some things are going to slip through the cracks. Were you guys aware that a tribute video was made for Mike Ryan? That it's not just so bad that I'm reading an awful announcing article But there's also a tribute video that I was told that Coogler made to celebrate Mike Ryan's time as our executive producer. Coogs, let's see what you got! I'm not sure what to do with this. No me importa lo que me se dica y de usted la verdad que yo vi por la mira que solo una disfruta el momento que el tiempo se acaba y patrando viviendo, viviendo, fumando y oliendo siga vacilando de parito los tibias y que lo

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Do we? Great, do we? Yeah, we're working. You're just informing me of this? 30 seconds here, yeah. Okay, that would have been the funnier joke to just play something. Hey, let's say goodbye now, finally, a formally to our longtime executive producer the one we cherish most Chris Whittingham. We don't have it right now. No, no, wait, you're 30 seconds. I'd like one of these.

Can I retire and come back in two days? Retire and just move to a different seat. We will get to that sound in a second, but Stugatz, can we enjoy for a moment what is happening in basketball because, I don't know if you saw this, but the Timberwolves, last week was a crazy week in sports that we didn't even see because we were swallowed by the Super Bowl, but the Timberwolves went to the Clippers. The Clippers had been the hottest team in basketball, one by 21. I had the Clippers.

And then spent a lot of time saying the clippers are sorry, laughing and singing and calling them old as hell. I've lived long enough now to see James Harden, Paul George and Kauai Leonard face a team of Minnesota players that I would have laughed at for trading for go bear. And they come in and swamp the clippers and make them look old and laugh on the sidelines while telling them they're old and they've got the team of players younger than the other Los Angeles team that has the oldest player in the league

and LeBron's being left behind. It's so odd because the T-wolves are 38 and 16, the one seed in the West, they are really really good and I can't get myself to take them seriously. I just can't. Like I can't see them winning an NBA championship. I believe that a lot of people listening to this are going to think to themselves that the Lakers and Warriors can turn some sort of thing on and they will judge against Minnesota and OKC and everyone else at the top of that conference,

maybe even Denver, even though they've won the championship. You can't do it against the best because I've seen LeBron and Curry be better than you when they're at their best. But I think the guard has changed. Like I expect these teams, I expect the younger teams to show me something in the playoffs, but I do fear the Clippers. Like if I'm, if I have to play the Clippers- You don't feel LeBron anymore. I don't feel LeBron anymore. Because he made it to the Western Conference finals. I'll tell you what, I fear the Clippers more than I do the Warriors

and a lot of people would disagree with me on that because over the last week there, everyone is, because you've seen for 10 years the Warriors be great, you expect them to be able to summon something even though the last time they tried they could not. Right. Last time you saw that was Clay Thompson actually being Clay Thompson. Now he's just a shell of a shell of himself. But every once in a while he can give you the game. He gave it to you. He's given it to you a couple of times recently, even as he's given you the public vulnerability that athletes never do, which is I'm okay with a reduced roll.

I'm okay looking in the mirror and having Draymond yell at me, quit crying. Quit crying. He's got no choice though. But Draymond Green is asking Clay Thompson to toughen up and have, still got, this part to me is super interesting, okay? We just got done with the Super Bowl. Look how hard it is to kill the real champions.

You think you doubt, you doubt they're falling apart. He's, the tight ends dating a pop star. It's crazy around them. I doubt, I doubt, I doubt, oh, they win again. Why? Because they're better than everybody again and again the Warriors have been that for twice as long twice as long borrowed Kevin Durant spit him out they've dominated that sport when LeBron wanted to be dominating the sport they had the team they built the architecture to fight him and now it goes down and

Clay's whimpering and Dreymons like not, not yet, Clay, not yet. I wanna fight every, I'm gonna go out here, punching my teammates, choking, go bare. And Clay's like, I got a reduced roll. And Dreymon's like, no, I wanna fight the league. And I'm the furnace. You got, did you see that locker room video of Clay's whimpering, getting in his feelings? And Dreymon's like, were you toughen up?

I was ejected for a finals game. And I came back and scored 32 in a game seven. Clay responded with 26 points. I'm saying he's the furnace, Clay's not the furnace, Clay gets the benefit. Clay could have been traded for Kevin Love and scored 30 points in Minnesota, never won a championship.

The leader of that team's Dremon, whether you like it or not. Yeah, I mean, Dremon tried to make the LeBron James trade go through. I think Clay Thompson would have went to LA. I just think he's running the team. I think it's crazy, Dremont tried to mate, the LeBron James trade go through. I think Clay Thompson would have went to LA. I just think he's running the team. I think it's crazy that Dremont Green is the leader of that team. Like almost fundamentally crazy, like he's got to go to therapy

to cool down the furnace because the whole thing runs on him being strong. But they've said it throughout the years. And I'm surprised you were surprised only from this standpoint, because Steve Kerr Steph Curry Clay Thompson They have all said he's the guy that gets us going. He is the leader But still gots I'm talking about how that has been playing with fire for ten years Sometimes it gets ejected for game five of the finals, right? It's still still got he's made his broadcasting career now and says He's the new media and he's not wrong. He's to do a simulcast with Barkley while he's playing.

That's the top of both games. Dreymon Green will give you 12, 6 and 6 and a bunch of defense and a mouth and a furnace and winning and a heart and will crush people the way no one active will crush people to their face and in private. And then you're all wondering why is go bear allowed to be dragged across the court like that. And the league gets real worried. Oh no, Draymond's out of control while it fuels the best thing we've seen the last 10 years.

Cause that thing has been as good or better than LeBron. That thing won Andre Guadala a finals MVP for merely holding LeBron to 35 points a game. That thing has been the best thing in the sport for the last decade. But easily. This is the part I'm fascinated by because we love the story lines.

And will it be the Clippers, can they handle Westbrook? They got four knuckleheads. Can OKC actually survive and be young because they're great? Or is the dying Dynastore dynasty got one more Dremon's gonna kick in the nuts on the way out? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Like that's the story. And you think the young teams are coming for the Warriors? That's done.

No more Warriors, no more LeBron, it's over. I think in both sports, I think in football, Stugans. I care about you. In football and basketball, we've lived the changing of the guard. We're already having the Brady Mahomes conversation. And in this sport yawning indifference about denver

who's really coming to get the warriors in the lakers who's really coming to finish lebron and staff because competitive champions go down the hardest to got for everything lebron has done in his career among the craziest is he still this good at this age Like I should the Warriors don't want to be in any championship conversations. It's it's asinine And Yoko just going for his third MVP and nobody's talking about the nuggets But like there are so many teams that the Golden State Warriors have to jump and if everything is right in Golden State

It feels like they can, like we've seen it happen before. No, you believe in nights like last night when they beat Utah by 30 on the road or the last week of what they give you, I think they're a 500 team. I don't think they could turn anything on. I don't think what the Lakers can turn on

in the end season tournament is something they're gonna be able to do again. Like, are people expecting that? Are people expecting that? I mean, the Lakers did it a year ago. I mean, the Heat did it a year ago. The Lakers did it a year ago the Lakers I mean didn't they got to the Western Conference finals did they not LeBron kind of turned it on at the end there I mean Denver I feel like we Denver ran rough shot they did with the

entire postseason last year like nobody nobody thought any I mean maybe you thought you were doing the same analysis on Denver that you now do on Minnesota and OKC, which is I haven't seen them do it, therefore I don't believe they'll do it. That's fair. The last five games to be fair to Golden State, they have won against your Brooklyn Nets, one of the best teams in the NBA. The Sixers, the Pacers, the Suns in Utah. I mean, they've won seven of ten. I'm not going to write them off yet. LeBron, I'm okay with. I'm not going to write Steph Curry off. I've written them off and now we have stalled

sufficiently so that we can give winning him the tribute the long overdue tribute that he deserved a long time ago the best executive producer we've ever had however brief it was chris winning him goodbye to you belatedly and he can It's a very brief run. Cup of coffee. Thank God. You know what, if someone takes a foul ball to the penis, we should just say he took a foul ball to the penis. Peppa y aqua pala seca, tueno de pa' fina,

en la higua de ca. A cup of coffee, but what a legacy. Hit him in the penis, caesarean section, someone's taking, Witty's taking a shit in the bathroom. I mean. I forgot about that one. So us to do a show on it and about the. Shitting him?

Shitty. Shitty Witty. I can't believe it didn't make the cut in the tribute. Pardon the pun, that him explaining C-sections to you. How the pain of a C-section is... He's right! Modern medicine is made to have so easy women are just complainers. Don't ever stop complaining.

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And Bobby Bowden would have said, Mrs. Met, she is snatched. Stugots. Dan, I never pay for a player. Now I would pay for Mrs. Met to give me a lap dance. This is the Don Lebatar Show with the Stugots. I morphed Nerkich into Jerkich over the course of that segment. It happens. Valentine's Day, Daniel.

Vegas Super Bowl Week, Radio Row, Wu Tang. Can you guys explain something to me? I would like the group to explain this because perhaps you have felt the aging process in some of the ways that I have. Because I don't know if Tony or even Jessica, loud talking at the airport drunker than Greg Cody, Jessica has felt this the way that I'm about to express it. In my twenties, I could do Vegas and recover in a day. It would take me a day and it would be a hard day, but I'd be okay. I feel like this entire company is still feeling Vegas

on Wednesday of this week. And Jessica, I don't, you are a vibrant young person. I think that you are somebody who could conquer Vegas, drink hard, and then come back here and be here on Wednesday okay. She likes to be sleeping by eight. That's why Lehman's taking me out to lunch for Valentine's Day. He said, I know you like to go to bed early. You gotta go into work Thursday. We'll do lunch.

I said that. You get me. You get me, Lehman. How broken are you? I felt better after I went into the break room and everyone said they felt like shit too. At least it's not just me. I thought I was just being a big old baby, but Kirsten, she's feeling it. Lewis, he's feeling it. Everyone's feeling it, Dan-O. Dan, I've never felt better.

Ha ha ha ha ha. The company has taken a beating, I believe. Is anyone, is anyone with Tony Billy, what are you shrugging about? Just because of course. I've never felt better in my entire life. Feels good. Roy, how are you feeling?

Well, I got lucky yesterday because yesterday was supposed to be the first recording session from a Gummern company for the season Except Renee got sick. So so working from home Never You were working hard from home. Don't ruin it for everybody else. So you got a hangover sleep day that no one else around here got? I wonder if Renee didn't get sick. It's her fault.

It's her fault. But you got lucky and she got sick. I got lucky and she got sick. So hopefully it takes another week for her to recover. Yeah, hopefully. We can only be so lucky. Or two. Maybe you don't ever want her to recover.

Whoa. I'll dare you don't ever want her to recover. Whoa He could pretend to work from home Just start airing reair. See if anybody notices for the next three weeks and just take your Tuesdays. That's a good point We're a billing beast, you know You should tell people that you're working hard on your days off to earn your money Not that you are sleeping at home to get the hangover off you. Well, normally I do, but you know, it's Vegas. But I thought it was me, and I thought it was me in my age. You guys are telling me it is not.

It's the way that everybody was working, and that everybody's, I don't, I mean, look, we don't need to relive the whole thing. We've done enough of that this week. But people don't have any earthly idea how hard it was to get that spaceship in the air, correct? No idea. No idea.

It was partially the fact that we were working like 20 of 24 hours and also like had enough money to eat one meal outside of the catered meals. So I was pretty hungry the whole week. Vegas is expensive. Yeah, very expensive. It was a business trip, Dan. It wasn't a, you know, you weren't going there

with your friends. I mean, we were- I mean, 6,000 calories a day. No, I know, but It was a business trip, Dan. It wasn't a, you know, you weren't going there with your friends. I mean, we were... I had 6,000 calories a day. No, I know, but it was a business trip. We were working and many of us were working, you know, 16, 17 hour days. Normally when I go there and I play cards, I drink, I do cocaine, I go to strip clubs,

I have the whole day to recover. I mean, you did all that. I do want to take the opportunity, like no bid here to commend the God bless football crew of billion. Oh my God, they crushed it. I don't think I've ever seen someone tackle as many hours of content. Because they multiplied by,

I God knows how many X amount on God bless football. And then they did our main show, which is a beast in its own right. So I do want to take the opportunity to commend them. It really is, it is, yes. Mike Flantes and Juju, I could speak for Billy on this, did a fantastic job, and Billy had me so organized and ready to go, it was fantastic.

We had a lot of fun. It didn't stop you from trying to subderk him. I had no fun on the trip. Oh no, of course. Smoked breaks. I said, Roy, I had no fun on the trip, just so everybody knows. I did not enjoy that time,

because you got in trouble for saying you enjoyed your Tuesday. Oh yeah, so everybody knows. I did not enjoy that time, because you got in trouble for saying you enjoyed your Tuesday. Oh yeah, I'm sure. I did not enjoy it. Well, Billy, you had a thankless job, but you successfully wrangled the stugots in a way that makes him happy about what he made and happy to have enjoyed being the star of Radio Row. You did that thanklessly in the shadow.

I've got to say, one of the things I've enjoyed the last two years is Billy is becoming a star at Radio Row. I mean, dog loves to see him, Josh Allen, he met his nemesis, he went face to face with him. Billy was the story for a couple of days on Radio Row. Didn't Russo get your name wrong? He did.

Yeah. What'd he call you? McGill. Oh, oh. You think you're our zoo guy? No, I think he thinks that I'm a sandwich of McDonald's. Oh, calls a mr. Gill and the mr. McGill. Yeah, it's really weird What were the guys? You told me that there wasn't anything particularly memorable from the Josh Allen video

But you did tell me that you had one video with somebody that you liked from God bless football Do you remember what that was because I trying to remember? I can't recall you you had you liked from God bless football. Do you remember what that was? I'm trying to remember. I can't recall. You had one moment on God bless football that was more memorable than all the others. There was a moment where Billy went face-to-face with Josh Allen. There was a moment where Bubba Watson needed to hug Chris Cody not once but twice because Cody was upset about the skills challenge and two of us. Bubba Watson is now a friend of God bless football. He wants to come on and talk football all the time. You made some legitimate friends in, you guys have a community of legitimate friends

and you had this moment with Lil Dicky too where you guys were deciding. We played Marino Montana with Lil Dicky. Who were you gonna play with Montana? With Marino. With Marino. Okay, you were gonna play it with Marino based on the M&M, he was advertising M&M's. He was promoting M&M's, We're gonna open up a bag and if there were more blue ones then Marino it settles it Marino wins if there were more red ones

Then Montana wins. We never got the opportunity Instead you did it with little dickie. Well little dickie is a big sports fan We didn't know how much little dickie actually likes sports and he was there and he was I didn't know who he was Well, that's another thing listen to his listen to his rap, he drops in old and Polanese references. I think he name dropped me in one of these. Well, he started breaking down like the Philadelphia Eagles like coaching staff hires and we're like, okay, calm down, little Dickie.

Like, we don't care about this. You should have introduced yourself to little Dickie. He did absolutely mention you as a lyric. Against Kornheiser, I think I was the embarrassment in the lyric, but what was this? I think you absolutely mentioned you as a lyric. Against Kornheiser, I think I was the embarrassment in the lyric. But what was this? I think you caught a stray. This is us, I think, playing Marino Montana with Lil Dickie. Look, there's Dan Marino right there.

Oh, wow. See, now you're excited. Now you're excited? Look at you. Do you think Dan Marino knows you? No way. Really? If you want, just get up, go and say, hey, what's up, Dan Marino? I can't have too much. It's too weird. Really? What do you mean? Go say hi to Golik. No, he doesn't care about Gol, what's up, Dan Marino. I can't. I have too much. It's too weird. What do you mean? Go say hi to Golik.

No, he doesn't care about Golik. He cares about Dan Marino. That's right. Yeah. Look at you. Your star shrugged a little bit. Well, it's little dicky, man. It's Marino.

Yeah. That's Ace Ventura's pride and joy. That's exactly right. We like to play a game called Marino Montana. Yes. Oh, OK. That's basically the whole game. It's Dan Marino.

That's it. You got to pick one. You know, I wasn't like, I can't tell you that I grew up watching these guys to give it the proper eye test. I can just tell you I don't know statistically you got to go Montana right? He's one more. Well, he can't hear me. That's true. Yeah, but you see what he did? He did the rings thing. So, Stugans, what a phony baloney you are. You're saying say hello to Marino, you're a little dicky and you have no idea who you're

talking to. No. Just told me right before. Just go up to Marino and tell him you're Lil Dicky. That'll mean something to him. I don't know who you are. That's what I do. I mean, I'm back on radio.

I did it to Wu-Tang. Who am I to say? Don Lebatard. Kiss me where you bruise me. Taste me on that fleshy part. Really? Yeah. Really.

Taste me on that fleshy part. Taste me, not touch me. Taste me on that fleshy part. Wow. Wow, Bruce. Stugatz. I'm talking about the Clitoris. I'm talking about the Clitoris.

Yes, I am. Now we're out here riffing. And I'm gonna try to find it if I can. Okay. Wonderful rendition. This is the Don Lebatar Show with the Stugats. from Brandon Marshall. I think it's I am athlete, the I am athlete podcast because I'm surprised this hasn't been something that's talked about more, but maybe it's because there's some credibility issues with Brandon Marshall. This seems like it would be a real big story if it were true or at

least a big pop culture story. Justin Tinsley is a senior sports and culture reporter for ESPN's Anscape. He's the author of It Was All a Dream, Biggie in the World that Made Him. We welcome him back for his hip-hop wisdom. Kanye West has returned with number one album on the Apple charts. He would appear to be uncancelable. And here is Brandon Marshall telling you something that I had not heard. I've not heard a second source confirm this. It sounds like it's just a rumor, but here's what he says happened to Kanye West around Taylor Swift's skybox at the Super Bowl. Kanye West pulls up to Vegas. Kanye West buys a ticket right in front of Katy Perry's boot.

So anytime they were gonna be showing Katy Perry, Kanye's face was gonna be there. Did you say in front of Taylor's boot or in front of Katy Perry's boot? Oh, my bad? Oh my bad my bad my in front of Taylor Swift's booth. Oh, you had a mask on with his logo on the mask right typical Kanye. Taylor Swift gets pissed off. Sheek Boom Boom makes a call or two. Everybody's involved. He gets kicked out the stadium. Oh this is hot. But Kanye, Kanye, this is hot tea, hot tea, hot tea, hot tea, hot tea. He got kicked out the stadium.

He was trying to leverage her celebrity to, because they're not going to cut to him, so he's like, I'm going to strategically position myself. So every time they cut over here to her. So now you got to go back to the beef, you know, him cutting her off. It's like, you know, Beyonce should have won it. And then years after, just that whole relationship. But that's what he tried to do.

He tried to sit in front of Taylor Swift. Somebody would have reported this if it were true, right? Somebody else, a second person would have reported this if it were in any way true. I mean, I gasped, but I'm not going to question Brandon Marshall. Justin, are you? I have to because I feel if you're involving Kanye West if you're involving Taylor Swift and you're involving Taylor Swift at the Super Bowl and There's no secondary backup source or or confirmation from that story I just I don't know how accurate it is now now could it have actually happened?

Sure, I don't put anything past anybody especially when it involves Kanye West, but there's video online I saw it on Twitter the other day of Kanye West in a suite with Anderson Pack. And they, you know, the internet did his research and I actually zoomed in as well. It's late in the third quarter when this picture was taken. So if Kanye was actually kicked out, unfortunately for him, he got kicked out right when the game

started getting really good. But I haven't heard this confirmed by any other source source and I just feel like if this actually happened TMZ would have been all over it It would have been the first story on a lot of podcasts and radio shows across the country This from anybody else other than Brandon Marshall if you were Kanye West at this Circumstance and you wanted to get more publicity this way. why not just confirm it to bleep with the media because who cares? Yeah. I mean, of course, this is a guy who, you know, Kanye West, he, he's been a focal point in the spotlight for over 20 years, over 20 years at this point.

We just recently passed the 20th anniversary of his, uh, of his debut album, the college dropout. And it's And it feels like we've been talking about him ever since and he understands what a moment looks like. And so he knows if he has an album coming out and it's been reported about the struggles about getting on streaming and him trying to find other arenas to perform in, we know about these struggles. If he has a chance to promote that album

and promote Kanye in that moment I don't see why he wouldn't do it so that's why I question this reporting from Brandon Marshall. So this is interesting Justin because if you reported it without a second source I believe it and I believe Brandon Marshall it seems unfair to Brandon Marshall. Yeah it may seem and again it may be correct but I just feel like if this actually happened if Taylor Swift got Kanye West again Like he said in his own video knowing their history if Taylor Swift got Kanye West kicked out of the Super Bowl That would be that would be major. It wouldn't happen quietly Right Kanye Kanye would have said something because him getting kicked out by Taylor or allegedly by Taylor kind of plays into his hands If that's the attempt to to siphon off the fame.

All right, but let's stop talking about the stupidity of this, Justin, and let's talk about the larger overall problem, which is Kanye West's commentary and behavior has been super questionable and actually cancelable for a long time now, where you can wonder about his mental health and yet he's got the number one album on the Apple charts he's not actually cancelable is he? No because he's he's always going to have that

legion of fans behind him who will support him and whatever he does Kanye is never wrong Kanye's ahead of the curve Kanye is never wrong. Kanye is the head of the curve. Kanye is this genius. So he's going to have that segment of society, which honestly Dan, honestly Stu, that's a large segment of the musical fandom in this country. Kanye operates a huge space in that and nothing is going to change it now. Granted, yes, things will change in his career.

Obviously we saw how those comments impacted him in terms of business and in terms of honestly in terms of music as well But that doesn't mean that she still won't have a large following behind him. It's very Honestly to make this comparison. It's very Trump like in a sense Isn't a bigger indicator of him actually being canceled or not because I don't actually think that's a real discussion Ben Shapiro had a number one overall track when it came to streaming. I think the bigger example of him not being canceled is him actually getting time on the Super Bowl.

He bought AdTyre. He got a 30-second video, selfie video. And the NFL and networks have taken sands before and not allowed advertisers. There have been plenty of people willing to pay for the time and that's a decision that the NFL and CBS granted. Yeah. I mean, look, unfortunately, we know how time influences discussions. Now, had Kanye done what he done,

don't know what he did last year in terms of the, the anti-submitted comments he made on multiple programs, if he did that like two weeks before the Super Bowl, then no, that wouldn't have happened. But I think unfortunately in many ways,, time has passed that, you know, there's been so many other big stories that have dominated pop culture since then. It's like, okay, maybe we can let this guy come back in. And of course, if you're going to pay for it, we know how Super Bowl commercials go.

So like, and then they money talks. Hold on, money talks. Hold on a second. Like let's think about what we're examining here that Kanye West who has been a raving anti-semite with comments that it should be noted in fairness He has since apologized the most in terms of his commentary on Jews the most recent thing that we have is an apology Okay, but when he's talking about time there here though the amount of the time passed Okay, the comments at any other point in our history would have gotten an artist actually cancelled a Super Bowl ad which is a 30-second selfie video in the backseat of a car that alerts people to merch on his website

He's claiming on Instagram that he sold 284,000 orders for $.3 million dollars in under 24 hours. So not only is he not cancelled, he's strong enough to have a Super Bowl commercial and turn it into a merch commercial during the Super Bowl. So it's not just not cancelled. It's the strength of riches. Do you buy these numbers? Because a Super Bowl ad is more than that. That would cost him money

if that's all he sold in 24 hours. That thing with Kanye, you gotta take a lot of things that are half truth. He's going to say what makes him look good in that moment. Honestly saying that, oh, this is my Super Bowl commercial, it costs X amount of dollars, this is my new album, whatever the case may be,

he's going to make a business decision for Kanye. And again, that segment of that population that will follow him everywhere he goes and believes everything he says, they're only gonna hype this up even more. Now, do I believe it? I don't wanna actually believe it. He may be looking at something gross

when it's really a net pay, but I feel like if he made that much money and that short a span of time, the same way with the getting allegedly getting kicked out the Super Bowl, I feel like that would be much more of a bigger story. And it just feels like he's the only one promoting this news and there's, there's nothing really to back it up or to challenge him on it. What were your main takeaways from Usher Halftime Show as a pop culture phenomenon?

I thought it had everything it needed to be in the discussion of some of the best Super Bowls of halftime. Now, to be fair, I don't think anybody's going to top Prince in 2007. I mean, the man literally did purple rain during a downpour. It doesn't get much more epic than that. But in terms of Usher, this guy,

we know he's an incredible performer. Like what he did on that Super Bowl stage was basically a preview of what his residency looked like. So we knew he had the performance down. We knew he could sing, but he was actually singing without background vocals. And that was a very physical performance that he did. And obviously the catalog backed it up. So I won't say it's the greatest of all

time but I guarantee you within the next five years we're gonna be talking about that as one of the best Super Bowl performances of all time. Tony's making a face at you. It was okay Justin it wasn't the greatest thing of all time. He was a little bit breathy, ran at breath, the dancers were okay, the roller skates get out of here. That was average. average. I mean, that was what the residency was. That's Vegas, baby. Like that was the show. Trust me, I was there in a main code.

I know exactly what Vegas is. There we go. All right, all right. You know, Frank Lucas? No such a no. Here's the most important question from the Super Bowl. Did Kyle Shanahan know the rules for overtime? Oh my God.

Stu, don't get me started on this. No, I don't think he did. Thank you. I really I mean, his players, his players actually said his players were his players looked up at the jumbo try and oh, they found out the rules. The same time I spice did that's unacceptable. If you are in the Super Bowl, you had two weeks to plan for a moment like that. And your players arguably the best team in the country not none in in the league all year They don't know the rules to overtime in the Super Bowl and you're playing Patrick Mahomes

I'm not saying I'm not saying the guy should lose his job. He should not lose his job He should but until until he reverses this This is a stain on your career that you're not going to be able to get over it unless you actually win one. That is unforgivable. And I'm not even reporting on this thing. Stugott says, Stugott says, no one is out here more aggressively with the take

that Kyle Shanahan cannot skate on this. No, you can't be forgiven for something like that. Thank you. It's the Super Bowl, baby, the Super Bowl. Follow-up question to that. You're the York family. You own the 49ers. Bill Belichick calls you.

What do you do? Oh, come on. No, no, I don't. I don't think so. You took it too far. You're not all I know. No, no, no, no, no. I don't think you fired the guy.

You definitely have to have tamed him all off the edge. This is what Billy said you yesterday. This is the thing. You give Stugatz a little bit.. This is what Billy said you yesterday. This is the thing. You give Stugatz a little bit. Stugatz, good take. And he's like, I need him more. I need more. Fire him.

Keep going. I said fire to him in a public square. Yes, yes. If you keep agreeing with him, he will keep taking it out further and further. Let me know when you get to the Belichick portion of it. It will take a couple of days. I get there quicker than anyone, but let me know when you get there, Justin, and we'll call me back, okay?

I absolutely will. We'll have you on again. All right. Yeah, the Super Bowl was a lot of pop culture events meeting in the middle, and one of the news stories that has resulted from that is Beyoncé kind of did this big unveiling in the album plans, and she's going country with this next album, is that country radio stations are emailing people back who are requesting Beyonce songs that they're a country music station and they will not be playing Beyonce even though the songs are country songs.

What do you make of that? This is going to be a prominent discussion in pop culture for probably the next year. We're going to see, I understand what's going on here. Similar to act one, which was Renaissance and that brought, you know, attention on the the the country, the contributions that black artists have made to to house music. It's going to be the same here with country music because that is a long, rich, complex and at times very depressing history in terms for black artists. So I think the album is going to be fine. It's going to be another Beyonce spectacle, big moment, great album. It will go up for album of the year, which will also be another conversation

we'll be hearing about for the next year because guess who drops her album? March Beyonce. Guess who drops her album in April? Taylor Swift. So, you know, this cycle is just going to repeat itself. But there are going to be discussions about black history and country music, black artists and country music, what does the future look like, and Beyonce is going to be an entry point for a lot of that. We've been talking about reckonings coming to men with power and money, Dana White and Vince McMahon in sports.

Russell Simmons was sued on Tuesday by a former executive at Def Jam who alleges that Simmons raped her in his apartment back in the 90s and ruined her career. He's had similar lawsuits against him thrown out over the years due to the statute of limitations. Is there going to be a reckoning here or is Russell Simmons going to skate like he's always skated? Then I hope so. I really hope so. Yes, we know about Russell Simmons' history in terms of what he meant for basically constructing and building hip hop during its infant stages. We get that. But that cannot be, that cannot overshadow the actions and the history that this guy

has been involved with in terms of some very graphic and ugly sexual assault rape situations. I gotta tell you a personal story Dan, and this topic really means a lot to me for a lot of reasons, but one in particular is, when I was working on my book, the Biggie book that you had mentioned earlier, it was All the Dream, I interviewed Drew Dixon. And for people who don't know who Drew Dixon is,

Drew Dixon is a former music industry executive, a very brilliant woman and unfortunately she is a sir, you know, a survivor from Russell Simmons raping her, you know, raping her in the mid-90s and she told me a story about how she was very close to Biggie Smalls. And I was one of her very good friends. And I asked her, I was like, well, did you tell Biggie about what happened in this situation? And she was like, no, I couldn't. Because I didn't want to be responsible for him

going up to Russell, potentially ruining his career. But I also didn't want him to let me down. If he didn't do anything, it still stood beside him. And I think that is, that is another part of this conversation about Russell Simmons and obviously about sexual violence, sexual assault, rape as a whole. Yes, the actual act is horrific, but the burden that it leaves on victims and survivors, that's what really needs to be talked about. And so every time I see Russell Simmons,

I saw him last year, he was doing a lot of hip hop related events with Eric Adams. And Eric Adams was calling himself the hip hop mayor and then being seen beside Russell Simmons. He was on the Hollywood Walk of Fame. I do hope you talk about somebody that needs to be just removed from the conversation. Russell Simmons needs to be removed

from the hip hop conversation because there are just too many stories, there are just too many lives that have been, you know, ruined by these actions that is just reprehensible. And you can't talk about success without talking about the evil that comes with it as well. Justin, thank you for being on with us.

Appreciate the time, sir. Thank you for having me, fellas. All right, unfortunately, I did not have time to get to with him my Wu Tang mistake. That's so convenient. I was hoping to tell us to read it, and I was hoping to get his opinion. You got what what a coincidence.

We could have him back on when he gets around on Belichick. Nope, I gotta go. I gotta go.