The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 2: Greg Almost Sleeps (feat. Amin Elhassan)

Episode Date: December 15, 2025

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It is time for To share his game notes No one in the media will tell you what happened better than my voice I mean Weekend Observations is presented by Miller Light Hold on, pause here I'm sorry

I can't hear the beeps Thank you You sound like you've had a rough weekend Well, the first joke was going to be weekend observations presented by Miller Light and my voice is presented by Vegas but I didn't hear the beeps so we have to start up and then start again.

Weekend observations is presented by Miller Light and my voice is presented by Las Vegas Dan after missing three wakes of action during which his team performed just as well without him as they did with him leading some to question

whether his impact was overrated he missed the entire first quarter of action But checked into the second quarter and posted a plus 20 in seven minutes against the best team in the league. And just like that, make no mistake, Victor Wembenyama is back. Wembe. Might have been the first time I've actually considered he could be the greatest player of all time. Whoa.

Yeah. Dan, the best team in the league looked terrified every time he was on the floor. It was so undeniable that he changed the entire complexion of that game just by checking in. I finally felt it. I was like, oh yeah, this is it. In the words of comedian Jamel Johnson, that shit with the monks might be working. Dallas Cowboys, they got a bed. It's a beautiful bed with a duxiana mattress.

Zaz, you know about that Duxiana mattress? Nah. It's a really expensive mattress. Whatever. 800 thread count sheets. Wow. Goose down filled pillows. And then they proceeded to take a fantastic dump in the middle of it.

In other words, the cowboy shit the bed. Buffalo Bills. Spotted the Patriots 24 points. Then remembered my Immaculate Dentek Grit of Punishment record. And they kept me undefeated. Deflon. Headline. Oldest man ever plays NFL game and manages not to die.

Seriously, how does he do it? Philip Rivers took five years off and still ended up down one score marching down the field with two minutes ago. Incredible. The Cleveland Browns have a titan named Harold Fanon. The name like that, he sounds like you could be an accountant. Top five NFL players. names that could be accountants oh well i harold fanning o'alli pat firmouth number

five pete gogalak number four George Kittle number three Barry Sanders number two Greg Dulchitch And the number one NFL player name that could also be an accountant name, Jackson Smith and Jigba. Whoa, wait a minute. What about Andrew Van Ginkle? That's a good one, but it's my list. Okay.

Yeah. Greg Cody. Yeah. Good seeing you. Thank you, I mean. How you doing? How about those dolphins? I'm telling you what?

They're alive, longer than the Chiefs are. How about it? How about it, indeed. Speaking of the Chiefs. Natalie and Bruya, big Chiefs fan, she's all out of faith, this is how she feels. Mahomes is on the ground clutching at his knee, delusion never changed, into something real. Nothing's fine, I'm torn. She's wide awake and knows that Mahomes ACL is torn, actually.

Too soon? NBA Cup, I try to get to my seat in the middle of the row. the guys in the aisle seats got up real quick I think they were terrified of the hog I went in backside facing because the unspoken covenant was observed I amced so dumb I emceed the Steve Nash Foundation

soccer showdown in Phoenix this last weekend huge success lots of money raised for kids in underserved communities great turnout by a limine World Cup winners and NBA Hall of Famers. Plus, I managed to drop a North Korea joke. The crowd loved it. I don't think they're gonna ask me to emcee it next year.

It's a shame. This week on Cinephope, episode 293, Rush Hour 3. A movie that considered casting John Claude Van Damme or Steven Seagal as the villain, but ended up casting Roman Polanski. You don't get that joke, I kind of finally direct you all to the legal history section

of Roman Polanski's Wikipedia page. Cinephobe, wherever you get podcasts. Speaking of villains, Desmond Bain, quickly becoming one of my favorite purveyors of shenanigans in the league, needlessly escalating situations,

then telling the ref, I'm just trying to protect my guy. I love it. Anthony Black, still reeling from that Jalen Brunson crossover. Shout out to my guy Marlin at the Aria. Big DLS fan. Michelle Beatle.

I hate her. What? Michelle Beatle. Acting an absolute fool at the Spurs game. Then flagging down Adam Silver. Then having a 10-minute conversation with him. In the middle of the game. then says let's go gambling

says to me I know the loosest slots on the strip I sit down I tell her what do I do she said put the money in there I said okay now what she says tap this setting I said cool

and I said now what she said hit that button I hit it in 22 seconds I blew through all my money Michelle Beatle says you're doing it wrong puts in her money chooses the same setting

presses the same button get out of here $6,000 $6,000 get out of here one push $6,000 wait a lot

proceeded to do this four or five more times no not $6,000 Dan the guy had to come from the back put in like a nuclear launch key code punching some stuff and then someone

with a briefcase showed up and just handed her stacks of money. If I wasn't there, I would have said I'm a liar. I saw it with my own eyes. And you were done in 22 seconds. 22 seconds. Did she give you any money? Hell no.

Slots are stupid. Speaking of hell, Art Bryles. Those are the weekend observations. Put it on the poll, please, Juju at Lebitard show. Is Desmond Bain a needless purveyor of shenanigans? also put on the poll Dan's worst mistake confusing John Sina and Kurt Engel

or calling the hurricanes of Larry Coker worse than the Tigers of Coach O? Can you tell me, please catch me up and I want to get Amin's opinion on this on the things with Dylan Brooks and LeBron James that continue to escalate? Yeah, like Amin, that was crazy last night, right?

So the Sons and the Lakers played, Lakers blew at 20. fourth quarter lead. And, you know, Dylan Brooks and LeBron were going at it all throughout the game. But shit really got wild like in the fourth quarter. And there was one sequence where Dylan Brooks slapped a ball that hit LeBron like in the chest. And LeBron went crazy. Like, resulting in LeBron grabbing back and forth the referee. I mean, you touch- Not many people can get away with that. But you touch a referee, you get thrown out. He's grabbing the referee and like yanking him back and forth. He did get a technical foul. And then with 10 seconds left in the game,

Dylan Brooks hit a three to give the sons the lead. LeBron totally fouled him, no call. And then when Dylan Brooks got up, he got up in LeBron's face because they had no timeouts left, like to DM up and like aggressively to deem up. And LeBron totally flopped. And it was Dylan Brooks' second technical foul. So we got ejected. And then LeBron was fouled. Very controversial. Final play right after that on a three by Devin Booker. He had two or three free throws. Lakers win. Amin, did I leave anything out? No, that's pretty exhaustive.

I mean, like LeBron's behavior was kind of ridiculous, no? I mean, Dylan Brooks is really annoying. Let's start there. And then we can also throw in that Dylan Brooks, by the words of his own teammates, he blacks out when he's out there sometimes. Like, we all think it's this calculated Dennis Rodman-esque masquerade. try and get under people's skin but apparently like no he really is like not present of mind in terms of like knowing what's happening he's just in his own little world and so you know you could say

lebron flop but also dylan brooks you got to know time and scoring situation and what you can't and can't do he didn't get called for a foul he got called for a technical foul because he wasn't just deeing him up he was going above and beyond and part of being a vet in this league is knowing when someone is running in the red and not under control and using that against them. And LeBron, I thought that did a great job of doing that last night. Greg Cody, the Greg Cody Show featuring Greg Cody is featuring this week, Dave Barry and his holiday gift-giving guide. I don't know how good all of you are at giving gifts, but what is, and I want to ask

him mean, how good or bad he is at giving gifts, but what did you cover with Dave Barry in the Greg Cody show featuring Greg Cody? He's got an array of wonderful gifts. His gift guide is not in the Herald this year for the first time ever. He's on Substack now, so go follow him on Substack. Or listen to my podcast to find out all these crazy gifts. One of them is a can full of fish balls. But my favorite was the toilet with a mirror on it.

So if you've ever had a desire to watch yourself wipe... What? This is the gift for you. It's supposed to be helpful. Yes, it's supposed to be helpful. Amir, you can put on your toilet so that when you're wiping, you can really make sure you're getting everything. So that you can be accurate. For those of you who need help, wiping.

Can you think of anything you'd rather see less? It's a bad gift. No, it's a great gift. It's not a great gift. If you've ever had the desire? You can't give that to someone you care about. It is not a great gift. You can't give it to someone you care about.

Well, then give it as a joke. I mean, seriously. Why is it not appearing in the Herald for the first time ever? This is an annual tradition that his column appears in the Miamer. Amy Herald, this particular column is very popular. Oh, yeah, and it is on substack as well, and hopefully with my listeners and viewers. But why doesn't it appear in the Herald? You're promoting it fine.

You're not answering my question or coming close to answering my question. I don't know. I don't want to get in Dave Barry's personal business with the Miami Herald. I can just tell you that this year, it's on substack. I mean, what kind of gift giver are you? I'm a terrible gift giver. That's why I adopted the whole philosophy if I don't believe in birthdays and birthdays. because I don't like giving gifts

I'm not I just that part of my brain doesn't exist not like the part of my brain where I don't want to give a gift the part of my brain of knowing what is a good or a bad gift and because that stresses me out I tell people don't bother with my birthday and that way I don't have to bother with yours

really it's all a defense mechanism do you get mad at somebody if they get you a birthday gift absolutely I really I really get upset I get upset tell you what my birthday's next month Feel free to get me something. Do you have any... You know what, I'll get you? Go ahead.

I'm sorry, Dan. No. Yeah, no, I'll get you the mirror for the toilet. Yes, thank you. See when you're wiping. There you go. Sound like a good gift. Hey, guys, Tony here.

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My algorithm on Instagram is, Dan, it's all boobs. Stugats. It's a good algorithm. This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugats. Do you have any Janus information for us on the way out? What do you think is going to happen here? So I had a conversation with Kevin O'Connor on his podcast yesterday about Janus and particularly the San Antonio Spurs. Should the Spurs make a move for Janus?

And I've been thinking about it a lot, Dan. And especially after the game on Saturday night, my feeling is kind of like, no, for a couple reasons. Number one, very realistically, looking at this team, and it's not just Wembenyama, it's Stefan Castle, it's Darren Fox, it's Dylan Harper, all of these guys with marginal improvements, like just a steady improvement that we would expect of guys that young, they're going to be competing for an NBA championship within the next two years, right? So you start there, then you say they're all on rookie scale contracts other than Fox. So it's like you have cost certainty, you've got low costs, you've got guys who are all around the same. age group, why would you cash those pieces in that will be championship contention worthy in no time for a guy who's in his 30s and makes a lot of money and is a very particular style of play? It's not on Alcagnanis. It's just, hey, we're cooking, we're baking this cake 400 degrees at 40 minutes. Why are we trying to jack it up to 800 degrees and shortchange this process? So I think I kind of logically went through it and I'm not reporting it, but

kind of feel like the spurs are not going to be getting Yannis and Ocumpo just because the cost does not outweigh or it does outweigh the benefit that they're going to get from getting them. I mean, it feels like the best time to do it was when they had the second pick in the draft and you have the mystery box of, ooh, we have the second pick, package all those things and try to get Yonis in the off season. Now you already know what you have in Dylan Harper. Vassell's been good.

Obviously, Stefan Castle is the best guy in that draft. You start looking around and the pieces are like, all right, we have these pieces. The best time would have done it would have been doing it during the. the NBA draft. Yeah, but you know what's funny, Tony, is usually when we say that, we mean like, hey, now that we actually use the pick and got the guy, it's not quite as sexy to the other team. You know, as far as acquiring, it's like, oh, it's a mystery box is somehow more tantalizing than a good player that you draft.

Let me pin you down, though. He says, you know, go ahead. Hold on. Let me finish the point. But in this case, in this case, it's a case of however good the Spurs thought they were going to be on draft night, now playing. 25 games. They're better. Holy shit, we're a lot better. We're a lot better. So back in offseason, like, oh, we can get Yannis. Oh, that'll put us in another echelon. But now it's like,

we're kind of already in that echelon without him. He says he wants to play in the sun in a big market. You know any place that has one of those? Anaheim. The Anaheim Amigos. All right, go ahead and get rid of him. There is no such thing as the Anaheim Amigos, a useless contribution by him. Hold on, Greg, the Anaheim Amigos, you hear with me, and the San Diego Conquistadors. Where did they play, Greg? Damn right, ABA, baby. Thank you, thank you. Hello, see you later.

Get out of here. Not what I wanted to hear from you. I wanted to ask you about Miami, giving me the basketball team in Anaheim not helpful, not useful. But you got to throw the show to Greg, so he could help you there. Just like we planned it. Vegas really got that, man. Yeah, that's a problem with Vegas and him. They shouldn't be together.

It doesn't result in good things after the week. weekend. Tony, your beloved Jags, they have since the week 8 by, they're averaging 33 points a game, and they've scored 25 in seven straight games. Jacoby Myers makes a pretty giant difference for them. What's up, Trevor? Changing also the offensive scheme from going from Brian Thomas Jr. to literally anybody else seems like it's working. And Trevor Lawrence has been playing great football. Liam Cohen, like, that's why I was so high on the Jags when they made the move to go get him. Like, he was a lot of the behind-the-scenes stuff with Baker having such a good

resurgence in his career. It's like if we can start moving that over a little bit north to 904, all of a sudden, Trevor Lawrence could be somebody that in this conference, like, why can't the Jags make a run? Cody, do you have any opinions here? Because the AFC feels like it's filled with flawed teams. It does. I would put the chargers probably on top of the AFC along with Buffalo. Their offensive line problems are too big. It's true. Herbert can't be hit that much.

You're just asking for him to get hurt. He's getting hit more than any quarterback in the league. He's already playing a little physically broken. That's fair. I would probably put Buffalo and the Chargers, despite what you say, on top of a wide open company. The Jags beat the Chargers 356. And Denver.

And Denver. Don't sleep on Denver. You just slept on them wild. You just woke from your slumber to remember that Denver was in there. Right. You can't say don't sleep on Denver while sleeping on Denver. No, no, I almost slept on them. No, no, no, here's what happened.

Here's what happened. It was me, so let me express what happened because I was the one living it. I was drowsing. You were laying in your bed, you were crisscross applesauce. Right, yes, which I can do again. People around here cannot be trusted to be correct about their self-assessment. For example, I have now been told that we have located an assortment of Zetka. tweets from the last 13 years that say the same things about Jimmy Cephalo and the

Dolphin broadcast that are being quoted in the article on awful announcing. It seems obvious to me, it seems obvious to me that you are one of the sources on this awful announcing list of worst local NFL broadcasters. They're putting up, look at you. You're being very critical there. Matthew, if you had Jimmy Cephalo calling them the Redskins in the first quarter, you're a winner, is what it is. You're just, you're coming after Jimmy Cephalo from a number of different angles. God forbid, Jimmy Cephalo can tell the difference between Jarvis Landry and Devonte Parker.

Oh, it's an old one. Devonte Parker. Similar build. Man, I thought he and Jake Cutler were going to be magic together. This Jimmy Cephalo is so awful in the car for just a few minutes and you have no idea what's happening. It's true. But you're heckling Jimmy Cephalo on Twitter. Ten years later, still true.

In the car for one minute, already have Cephalo calling him Jakeem Hunt. Who's even talking about there? Good start for Jimmy Cephalo. First drive of the game and he doesn't realize how the field flips after the 50. Think the 33-yard line is the 27. That's a major error, Dan. First time I've listened to the Dolphins Radio call in a long time. First, two, it was sacked, then it was intercepted, ended up incomplete.

Cephalo still got it. That was this year. That's the play I was talking about. That was this year. It seems obvious that you were the source on this. It's tough to deny at this point. It's mounting. Another couple of football things that I wanted to get to.

I just want to check in week to week as we do around here. Jerry Jones, still a good GM? No. Michael Parsons got hurt. I mean, you can't control that. Not this week. Okay. Not anymore.

The other thing. This probably shouldn't be something that happens quietly, given that T.J. Watt is pretty good. The collapsed lung thing seems kind of horrifying. Yeah, sure does. Seems like a lawsuit waiting to happen. So is this the Tyrod Taylor, the puncturing of the lung? What is the collapsed lung information that we can, as I was reading some of the details on this, I was like, man, it had to be scary for T.J. Watt. These guys have such high pain thresholds that by the time they get to the hospital, it's something that they really don't want to be doing.

I can't imagine what was happening with the pain and the breathing. Yeah, like, what happens when you get a collapsed lung? Can you still breathe? What happens? It collapses. You have the other lung. It's dry needling, though, different than the Tyrod Taylor situation, which it was taken a... I think Dan does dry needling.

You know about dry needle? It's acupuncture. Acupuncture is dry needling, but I'm not going to have needles on my lungs. That's a long needle, though, to go dry needling. Acupuncture is, like, kind of very surface area, though, right, Dan? Very much so. You're talking about a needle that's going to go in six inches into the back and to your lung? Like, that's kind of crazy.

Well, just take an aspirin, will you? You could not pay me. Literally, you could not pay me to take a six inch needle. But you said earlier in the show you'd pay $11,000 not to see John Cena's last match. Yeah, or any professional wrestling match. If you paid $11,000, wouldn't you rather just go? No. You know what I would do?

I would go to that city, have a nice meal out, you know? You can now. What? That's his Joe Zagaki. What is not the reaction to that, Greg, to inside jokes on the show that are, like, what? I wanted more of the Zagaki, though. I need a, you know, I need a Ed Williamson Cadillac reference. I need something.

Can you give me the... Williamson is Miami. The against... Don Louisville's going to win this bowl game. The Against the Spread music, please. Against the Spread. That's right. Against the Spread is presented.

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And that's what the Panthers are. And that's what I am going with tonight. The Panthers at one and a half goals against the spread. Go with them tonight. Ryan. I'm going to take the Texas long horn. It's minus six and a half. Hey, give me that. Things are going bad at Michigan, so I don't even know who's going to play. So I'm taking the long horns. I can't say it's a spread. It's a spread. Folks, listen up. You know my holiday pattern by now. Every single year I tell myself,

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Dan Lebatard. Baker Mayfield tearing up Tampa Bay, 38 for 45. Stugats. Shred them! This is the Dan Lebatar show with the Stugats. The big news from yesterday's football play has to be. Bill's Patriots because we will get tired of even droning excellence in football, even in America's

most popular sport, even when it comes to the Rams dragging the lions, correct? The Rams are so consistently good at this point that that becomes the lesser story. Them dragging the lions and being unstoppable offensively becomes a lesser story. The two Rams losses that we've got this year are a bit fluky, right? They were up a giant amount against the eagles and end up coughing up the game. But the Rams have been a special kind of excellent this year, but the football everyone's talking about is Bill's Patriots, correct? Yeah. Yeah, that was the game of the week, I think. And it's because I don't believe that either the Bills or the Patriots are better than Rams or Lions. I don't believe that they're

better than Rams or Lions. Do you? Do you guys both believe that that game that we're talking about because Josh Allen is coming back because you've got sort of more future at quarterback than past, right? Because you're looking at the Lions and the Rams and you're thinking past, even though Stafford probably should win the MVP award, you're looking at the top of the division, you're looking at in the Patriots, a team that historically has a storyline that makes people more interested in them. But yes or no, you guys agree with the assessment that both of the teams playing in Rams Lions are better than both of the teams playing in Patriots' bills.

I think the Rams are the best team of those four. But you're not willing to concede to me that the Lions are losing, at least in part, in that conference because they play in that conference. and it's harder than what it is that the Bills and the Patriots are doing. I just don't think the Lions have the defense to be talked about as a Super Bowl. But the Bills and the Patriots have the record that they do as it's good as it is, at least in part, because they get to play all the Saints and all the Carolina and the Bucs and all the crud in that division. It's the reason that the records are as good as they are.

The Bills are an incredibly flawed team. They've got a great quarterback and everything else about them is either injured or wrong. I mean, their defense is really good. The bills? No, no, the Rams. They're not a flawed team. I'll back you up here. I got Detroit fourth in that group.

Really? Yeah. Yeah, I think if the Patriots and Lions play 10 times. I think offensively they're second. Like, I think offensively, I think the Rams are first. I think the Lions are better than the Bills, and I think the Lions are better than the Patriots. I don't think it's like this huge golf. I don't.

And that's fine. I'm just making something condoms. here around what it is that happened yesterday and how much we love storylines, right? Because you can be droning excellence, which the Patriots and the Rams have been this season, and we'll follow the storyline of, oh, Josh Allen was down 21. Drake May would like his MVP trophy. Josh Allen's not quite ready to give it away. And at the end of the game, even Vrable is running scared from Josh Allen, even though he wants Drake May to take Josh Allen's position at the of the conference. The bills going into New England and doing that feels like more of a statement

than we've gotten from anyone in the league over the last month of, nah, not yet. You're not ready for this yet. Your offensive line is injured and you're going to need to do more than score 30 to beat us. I mean, look, we could fast forward to the start of the playoffs. I would say the bills going into the playoffs, the bills are going to be the top story, right? Going into the NFL postseason? I mean, no Patrick Mahomes, maybe no Lamar Jackson. No borough. No borough. This has to be the year for the bills. I think the bills are the most interesting story, AFC or NFC once the playoffs begin. And you can see them losing at Houston like they just did because Houston's defense is good. You can see them losing against Denver because Sartan is back and that defense is even better.

You can see them losing to the Chargers because the Chargers defense can do that at Kansas City. And a bad matchup against the Jags. All of a sudden the Jags come out and you're like, oh, wow, they beat the bills. Yeah, everybody's flawed. Seattle, I think, is a really, really good team, but Sam Darnel leads the NFL in turnovers, including a bunch of points. Can you do me a favor, Jeremy? That stat I gave earlier in the show.

where I said there have been six times this season that the bills have given up 185 or more rushing yards. They're four and two in those games. Can you tell me how many bad teams that's against and how many good teams that's against? Because you're not going to be able to allow that kind of rushing total, and Ed Oliver will make a difference there if he's healthy. But you will not win a playoff game against a good team

allowing those rushing totals, even if you have Josh Allen. You're playing with too much fire there when they're four and two, but they can't actually stop the run. And I thought the way the Patriots were going to beat them yesterday is the way that game started, which is just keep handing the ball off and keep Josh Allen off of the field. But the bills end up scoring touchdowns on five straight drives in the second half out of nowhere because they couldn't continue to play the kind of football that just handed the ball off. I just don't think that you can have those kinds of weaknesses on defense and win three playoff games.

Like that's just that that's asking so much of Josh Allen. as to be unreasonable, and he'll end up getting blamed for running into one of these bad defenses if a team like Houston slows him in Houston. But aren't they always asking so much of Josh Allen? And then he's just going up against Patrick Mahomes in the end. And it's too much to ask at that point because Patrick Mahomes can make the very same place. But he's done so with better defenses than this one and less injured defenses than this one and he's lost in the playoffs.

Like it's not Patrick Mahomes this time, but going. up. If he's got to go through the equivalent, and I haven't looked at the brackets yet or how this shakes out, but that the defenses you have to go through are Denver, Houston, and the Chargers? Yeah, but they have to go through Josh Allen. Right now, they would face Jacksonville in the first round of class. Josh Allen is a wizard. He's this incredible card to pool. And it's not like, I understand the bills are hurt and their defensive metrics aren't great, but I trust the personnel on the defensive side of the ball. Rousseau, Bosa, Milano, always making big plays.

Are they supposed to get Ed Oliver back? At Oliver, Torres Bicep in October, so it's going to be tough unless they make a super late playoff run, maybe late January, but it's going to be tough. I trust the personnel on the defensive side of the ball to make a couple of plays to keep that in arm's lengths, so Josh Allen can just be Josh Allen. So the bills are four and two in those games you mentioned, Dan. The rest of the NFL is four and 26 when they allow 185 rushing yards or more in a game. The six teams where this happened, the Ravens, the Saints, the Falcons, the Dolphins, the Buccaneers, and the Patriots.

The two losses are to Atlanta and Miami. Right. So you're going to have a hard time in the playoffs with that. If you're allowing a bunch of rushing yards, you're not going to be facing any bad teams in the playoffs. No, but I do think Josh Allen is capable of scoring against the great defense. Like, I don't see Houston holding him to 17 points. They did last time they played. They held him to 19 the last time they played.

Okay, okay, but that's tough doing twice in a row. I mean, I get it. No Mojones, maybe no Jackson this year in the playoffs, but they haven't made the Super Bowl, any of those other years, and this will be the first year of all these years that they'll have to do it by winning three road playoff games. Like, this is literally going to be their toughest route to do it, and they've never been able to do it.

Well, clearly the NFC is better, and Draft King's latest Super Bowl odds have the Rams as the favorite and Seattle Seahawks second, and then Denver and Buffalo are tied for third in the odds. So I think it's fascinating. I know TV is already bemoaning the absence of the Kansas City Chiefs. I think it's going to be a fascinating playoff because for the first time in years, I think we're going into it saying any of six or seven teams can be in a Super Bowl and it will be a refreshing matchup. The thing that happened, though, with the Chiefs yesterday because I do still, I still maintain, even with the Bills and the Patriots playing that game,

and even with the Rams and the Lions playing that game, the biggest story in the sport every week, and OKC is like this in basketball now. OKC, when they win, it doesn't matter, when they lose people notice. Kansas City losing when it's been nine straight divisions, seven straight AFC championship games, and three straight Super Bowls. I was taken aback yesterday even while just watching for them to become the big story by being eliminated when it got a whole lot worse than that, the moment that Mahomes went down that way. And everyone started questioning, oh, will they be able to get back up off of a knee,

given the salary cap condition, given the age of their coaches, given how much money they've got tied up in Chris Jones, who didn't even know until after the game that he had been eliminated, Hey, these guys are so dialed in. No, that doesn't sound dialed in. That sounds the opposite of dialed in to not know that you've been eliminated. Look at Chris, listen to Chris Jones.

I got a lot of money tied up in Chris Jones. Listen to Chris Jones after the game, saying, and I didn't know that we were eliminated. Still had a fighting chance. Are we out of the playoffs? We are. Okay. That's the whimpering end of a dynasty right there.

Like, that's a... Oh, I'm sorry. We're out. Go ahead and play that again. So it's just, I didn't have it all going like this where we were just sort of like, oh, is that over? Is it all over? Is it over forever? We still have a fighting chance. Are we out of the playoffs?

We are. Okay. Well, the guy didn't follow current events. I like the reporter who once he says we still have a fighting chance, like, wrong. He was looking out in the crowd. You can hear him like, we still got to fight chance, right? And somebody's like shaking their head and he's like, we got to fight chances? No, okay.

You can hear the spot. where he sees a reporter saying, no, basic math has eliminated you guys. You didn't know that, did you? Are we out of the playoffs? We are. Okay. That's how I felt when you guys told me

UM had 17 first rounders and LSU had seven. Are we out of the playoffs? No. We are. Okay. You guys... The squeaky chair. Did you guys...

Let me hear it again. Clyde Edwards, hilarious. We need some dumb. WD-40 on that chair. Sounds like a rusty gate swinging open. Are we out of the playoffs? We are. Okay.

You guys think that the football watching fan had the same sort of reaction I did, which is I was tuning in to see the funeral, oh, this is a little worse than I thought it was going to be, because now is this going to go into the middle of next season? You can't have your – there's only one injury on that team that can happen like that to make it feel like that. And it was like, oh, is this really over? Am I overreacting to say the whole thing is over now

because they're going to have to wait until the middle of next season and they're still going to be throwing Chad Henny out there as the backup point. No, Minchu. I'm saying it's going to be Chad Henny. What is Chad Henney? I'm going to look for Chad Henney is. I'm saying it's going to be Chad Hennie out. Chad Henny at the beginning of next season.

He's coming back like Rivers, Chad Henny. I don't think it's in the middle of next season. The guys come back from that ACL way quicker. Nine to 12 months. What if he's the 12? Sometimes it can. We've seen guys get hurt there and be ready for the beginning of the season. Chad's last season 2022 for the Chiefs.

Again, I'm still, but it's still going to be Chad Henney. He had that one big first down, though, Dan, you remember? He had that one drive. Yeah, a long drive. And that's the point with Patrick Mahomes. We've seen him so many times. A leg go this way. go that way and then he just gets up and continues to play and this time I was like oh no wait

this is like really bad I've always wondered about how he'd age he's a big guy and he leans on his athleticism that is that's going to be diluted coming off of that knee injury and I know it happened at the exact same time Brady's happened but Brady was playing a different ball game my god stop comparing him to Brady walking his footsteps this is the first time since 1998 we're going to have a postseason in the NFL that won't have manning Brady or Mahomes I was three years old. Ha ha, funny.