The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 2: Heavy Tongue's Got Bad Judgement (feat. Jamal Crawford)

Episode Date: April 15, 2025

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Starting point is 00:02:09 added him i've not told him this there is a lot what you know there's a war brewing uh... between athletes and journalists in the media and he went on with lou williams on the underground lounge and he gave up the goods to a teammate and friend and and colleague and didn't give us the story of the time that he lost a car gambling in Chicago. He knows that that's the story that I want. He knows this and he goes with Lou Williams
Starting point is 00:02:34 and he gives him the great story instead of us. And look, he's nodding and he's like, yes, you're right to be furious at me. And hi, it's nice to see you again. Nice to see you as well, Dan. Thanks for the introduction introduction I appreciate it. I want to hear this story because it's such a good story Jamal like the idea of losing getting to the league and losing a car gambling because things escalate you don't know what
Starting point is 00:02:59 you're doing it's a funny way for a rookie to lose a car. A new way and a way that you never expect, right? But for me, I got in over my head, I was like betting air money, shooting dice. And I'm thinking it's like, okay, it's a friendly competition, these numbers are getting so high, he doesn't really want this money, does he? Oh, he wanted the money.
Starting point is 00:03:19 So I said, you know what, instead of me getting that money as a rookie and not making much at that time, would you take the car? He's like, yeah, I'll take the car. I'm like, oh here you can have it Just let me take my basketball out of it. That's what I learned not to gamble outside of actual casinos But how does that happen? Like I you you I it seems to me your entire career that you've seemed savvy Yeah, no, but you know what you You can't have a testimony without being tested. So I had to, I had to go through it.
Starting point is 00:03:48 I wasn't always this savvy, Dan. I had to learn and that was the school of hard knocks of learning for sure. But come in the league, 19, 20 years old, you know, you're around all this. It's new to you. Uh, you think you can kind of hang and hang around and do things you're doing as a kid with these are grown men and you're still a kid and you have to start thinking like a more mature young man instead.
Starting point is 00:04:10 And I learned that day and never did it again. So now it's a lesson. I tell young players coming into the league. But he made sure he got the basketball, Dan, because he's a professional scorer. That's right. It's such a good touch to make sure, can I just have the ball?
Starting point is 00:04:27 In the East, it's, I think, the only interesting series, maybe I have this wrong, is Nick's Pistons, but it seems like all the scary stuff, the fun stuff, the drama stuff is gonna be all out west. We're about to all be very tired with what happens in the NHL and NBA playoffs because the the games out west which is the one that you're most interested in? I think I like the Lakers Minnesota series just from a standpoint we know
Starting point is 00:04:54 what LeBron and Luca bring to the table but they've never been down this road together with each other you know so there'll be moments in the game where I'm sure they're both used to taking it over. It may be moments that kind of overlap. They'll have to figure that stuff out. They're playing well right now. And JJ Reddick's done an unbelievable job. Austin Reed has been balling. I think he gives balance to their team as well.
Starting point is 00:05:13 But Minnesota is just so fearless and he's such a competitor. And we know what they were doing last year at this time. So for me, I think, you know, sorry about that. That was good work. That was good hands. I got quick hands. The hands aren't just... Yes, good hands. It just aren't for the handles. I didn't For me, I think. That was good work. That was good hands. I got quick hands. The hands aren't just. Yes, good hands. They just aren't for the handles.
Starting point is 00:05:28 I didn't even notice. I didn't even notice what happened. That was amazing the way you did that. You are so much better than the vice president of this country. Oh my gosh, I'm not going there. But I'm interested to see how that series looks because I think Minnesota are competitors
Starting point is 00:05:43 and I just wanna see how it looks going down that road together. What about you guys? Who who do you have dad well no i'm glad you have that old old i think you should have done better with the trophy old old heavy tongue chris cody just said to me again in a private show that i'm getting boy he really all right he said to me boy jamal crofford really stiff armed you on that one Dan You went in with the vice president dropping and he's like nope. He crossed you over Like Steve Smith he's got a move Would you look at the calves and say what everyone is saying that nobody's gonna believe that that will be Boston?
Starting point is 00:06:29 Yeah, I think most people would say that. I think Boston now, you remember for years, it was like, break up Brown and Tatum. And I was saying years ago, just get them a vet. I think they were young enough, I think they were good enough, and I think they could figure it out. Now their team has figured out their style works. Before it was like, oh, we can get a lot of success.
Starting point is 00:06:46 We can push people. We can make to the Eastern Conference Finals. Now they know their style works so they can rely on that. If you're the Cavs, you're the underdog, obviously. But if you're going to play Boston, I would try to play them as tight as possible. Because to me, that's when Boston at times lose their trust. And that can help your team more than anything.
Starting point is 00:07:04 But the Cavs are going to have to prove it they're gonna have to prove it they're young they had a terrific season but you know that the boss of the tough task for anybody especially when they're shooting the three and moving the ball the way they do okay but Jamal like that's covering a lot of ground when you say the style works like you must be a giant admirer of the fact that what Boston will do is drown you in threes because of how that team is built. And there's nothing that you can do. You just gotta hope they miss. That's it, but can they miss for, you know,
Starting point is 00:07:35 potentially seven games? That's the thing about it. The way they shoot it and when they go from good to great, that's almost like adding another star player because the ball is moving so fast that you know guys want to shoot it, but they're still getting clean looks because that ball has energy. So yeah, I'm a believer in what they're doing. I don't like when they just sell out to threes, but you know, they proved it.
Starting point is 00:07:55 And I know, I know you're in Miami, so I know they've had some battles. I want your expertise here because I feel bad last year I cost people money because I kept saying of the Clippers that that team if healthy could win a championship and then they flamed out early because they weren't quite healthy but these Clippers Jamal I think have a chance to be the most surprising champions in the history of the league because it's exactly the kind of team that would beat OKC and they can lose in the first round. So what are you telling people to do then? If you lost them some money you're going to help them regain it?
Starting point is 00:08:31 I'm looking at... Are you saying take the Clippers to win the Wests? I'm asking I'm asking your opinion of the Clippers because I've been high on them and I've failed and cost people money and I just think they're even better this year They are better if you're watching how they're playing They have a certain belief a certain Mati and you're watching Kawhi and you're seeing he's healthy But I'm seeing like a more fluid Kawhi the way he's moving is more fluid. I'm watching that. He's handling the ball The the moments where you feel like if you're the Clippers, you have the best player on the court, no matter who you're playing,
Starting point is 00:09:06 because he's been through it, he's battle tested, and the playoffs spit and suit his game. But I'm a big believer in the Thunder. I really am. Just the way they played, they brought like a college style of play and system and winning to the NBA, to the pros. You watch how,
Starting point is 00:09:20 I know everybody talks about their interviews, but if you watch how they're playing, they know Shay's the guy, but they have other guys that they allow to be the guy. He doesn't take away from other people. And then I think Coach Dagonall is a star on the sidelines. So this is going to be a fun playoffs. And I don't think it's going to go the whole playoffs series in every series.
Starting point is 00:09:38 I don't think it'll go like most sticks it will. There'll be some surprises. Jeremy gave me private show because he's getting tased the entire time. I got all sorts of facts spit out at me as to how wrong I was because I excluded Bucks Pacers from my analysis. And I don't think he's wrong because Bucks, the Pacers are really good. Yeah, Dan, you mentioned on the show yesterday how good the Pacers have been. And I think it's gone under the radar because they made a run last year.
Starting point is 00:10:02 And when they started slow, everybody sort of wrote them off. But in 2024, so like before the turn of the new year, they were 16 and 18, they were 10th in offense, 23rd in defense. But since then, they're 34, don't tase me, 34 and 13, fourth best record in the league behind OKC Cleveland and Boston, top 10 in both offensive and defensive rating. Jamal, do you think there's a chance that Indiana can be the one that kind of messes this whole thing up for everyone in the East? There's a chance, but you know that they love to play with the pace. They love to play up and down in the playoffs.
Starting point is 00:10:36 It's just not sustainable to do it. Or at least teams historically have not kept that same pace. So when the game slows down, where do they go? I'm not saying they can't score and they can't generate baskets, but it's just a lot tougher to do. I'm not sure it'll be the surprise in the East. I think that could be a good matchup depending on health and how everybody's feeling in Milwaukee
Starting point is 00:10:53 and where they're at. But that could be a good matchup, but I don't have them going much further than after the first round, if they can pull that off. So give us something controversial that you think about, about who's going to beat whom. Like you're not exactly a hot take artist, but do you have an opinion that not a lot of people have about what we're about to see?
Starting point is 00:11:12 Dan, you know what? You came in with a hot take with me losing the Mercedes, the first question. I mean, you can't get much more controversial than that, but I would say basketball wise, all right, you want one, I'll give you one. I'll say Minnesota beats the Lakers. Woo!
Starting point is 00:11:30 Wow. Thank you. That was hard for you. It seemed like it was not. I mean, you forced his hand. It was tough. Okay, and this is- Yeah, you did, you twisted my arm.
Starting point is 00:11:37 You did twist my arm like that. And this is just about your simple belief that this is Anthony Edwards' league to take over from Luca and LeBron? I just think his, his competitive, it will be his league one day, or at least one of the faces of the league. I just think his competitiveness along with them right now,
Starting point is 00:11:55 I think he wants to be a spoiler. Everybody's talking about the Lakers. Everybody's talking about, you know, they can make this run. I'm just gonna throw a shot in the dark and see what sticks, but I'll say Minnesota. What is yours, Dan? I need you to pick one.
Starting point is 00:12:06 Who do you have that nobody has? Okay, thank you. You threw it back on me. Dan, you have the heat over the calves, right? And you're playing with the table right now. Yeah, well, you put me on the spot. A little nervous there. I wanna see where you're going with this.
Starting point is 00:12:16 I am, so I'm gonna... I'm gonna take Jamal's one step further and say that Timberwolves are gonna make it to the NBA Finals. How about that? Okay, see, yes, it means nothing. But it's brave, but it's brave. And I like the Clippers to beat the Nuggets,
Starting point is 00:12:32 but that's not controversial, it's just a five over a four. No, yeah, that stinks. Dan, maybe you can't evaluate the Cleveland Cavs, but what are your thoughts on Chris Cody's Cavs? Yeah, thank you. Thick, freckled, hairy. I have to do better than that though. It's a good flex.
Starting point is 00:12:48 Try to buy your time. Can I knock out the Rockets in the first round? Even not knowing who they're gonna play? I think most people expect that though. They do. No matter who they get in the play-in. No matter who, that's right. No matter who they're getting.
Starting point is 00:13:01 Whether it's Golden State or Memphis, no matter who it is, they're gonna go ahead and beat the two seed rise. Can I do that or no? No, you can't do that. I can't really do that. You can't do that, Dan. Okay.
Starting point is 00:13:09 It's like picking a run from the play-in teams in March Madness as well, if you had picked Carolinas in 11. Put Golden State in the finals. Do something like that. Put Memphis in the Western Conference finals. I mean, give us something. Okay, I know.
Starting point is 00:13:21 Give us something, Dan. I really feel so pressurized right now. Put the Knicks there, I dare you. Well, all right, I'll take the Knicks out in the first round. Yes! Oh, no. I'll take the Knicks out in the first round. I'll have Detroit beat them.
Starting point is 00:13:33 Wow. Thought you were going the other way with that. No, what, making them advance is the three? To the finals, yeah. Oh, no. I'm going the other way on that one. And I'm rooting for that, right? Like, that's, I don't know, do you hate anybody?
Starting point is 00:13:47 No, not at all. Not at all. You've never played against a, there's not a city or team that you have a dislike for. Not one, no, no. I was good there, but then you're not spinning this on me back to me again. Like you pick the Knicks to lose, stick with it,
Starting point is 00:14:03 and we'll all just go with that. You cornered me, it was unpleasant. Well, you cornered him, I mean. I know, lose stick with it and you cornered me it was unpleasant you cornered him I know but he comes in here to be cornered that's like that's the whole transaction no I came here to have a conversation and we're having a great conversation right now yeah that's sweet it really is great energy warm moment. Jamal, if invited to go to space, would you take the invitation? No, I don't even like flying across the country. I'm not going to space. I'm sorry. Are you going to space?
Starting point is 00:14:34 I would not. Stugats? I would go to space, I think. Yeah. We were talking before about whether you'd least prefer to go to space or to go in the submersible underwater. So look, I hate flying, I can't swim. I'm gone either way, like this is, how long is that trip to space?
Starting point is 00:14:54 Like how long take to get there? 11 minutes. It's quick. It's a cup of coffee. It's 11 minutes. Here, do you wanna see Gayle King? She seemed kind of scared and I would be too. Yeah, let's see Gayle. I would be terrified if I was about to go up into space. Let's see, Gil.
Starting point is 00:15:09 Oh my gosh. Yeah, she's scared here because I think she's scared, either scared or miserable. You sure? You think she's just unhappy? I don't know, I can't make that look right there. I think she's like, all right, well, let's do it. I don't know where she's at with it.
Starting point is 00:15:24 Nah, that's like to me, she's like, all right. Well, let's do it. Let's just I don't know where she that would know To me it's like what am I doing? This was the names on the suit. I don't know. He was ready for this. This felt like a good idea Jamal, I think that she doesn't look ready for this. Look at what's happening here with you know, what the more I look at it I think she's looking at what if I don't make it back? The more I look at it, I think she's looking at, what if I don't make it back? I don't make it back space. That is exactly what's happening there. You have to choose between the two though.
Starting point is 00:15:49 I understand that you don't wanna do either. I was saying that the submersible is much more mortifying to me. But it's just because of, it was that tiny little thing that exploded that we thought for a minute that somebody was tinging in the depths of the sea sea trying to get out of a tiny contraption, losing air, but it just
Starting point is 00:16:11 instantaneously exploded. How quick do I get back from the space? Is that 11 minutes too? Well, I think you float down. The entire thing is 11 minutes. Round trip, yes. Yeah, it's 11. I'll do that.
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Starting point is 00:20:08 96 calories and 3. I did get stiff arm. I just really wanted to know what he thought about the heat and bulls. Is today the anniversary of the Titanic sinking? I believe it is. Too soon? No. What, 190 years?
Starting point is 00:20:36 No, 110 years. Chris, how are the takes back there? People have been calling 305-486-gots, 305-486-gots. I'm surprised gots hasn't been calling 305-486-GOTS, 305-486-GOTS. I'm surprised GOTS hasn't been calling 305-486-GOTS. I've had the time, that's for sure. We have, 4689 is the way that it goes. Boost has been a very good sponsor,
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Starting point is 00:21:14 It's presented by Boost Mobile, the newest 5G network in the country. It's our listeners with their chance to shine. We do a lot of takes around here and we give the audience a chance to give us their takes and let's see what they got for us this week. Hey guys, it's Scott on a mobile car phone. My hot take is that Paul Skeens and Libby Dunn
Starting point is 00:21:36 in a doubles tennis match versus only Anthony Davis. Anthony Davis wins that every day of the week. I'll hang up and listen. There is something seriously wrong with grown men wanting high fives from golfers in between holes. We've all seen him run. Stop calling Tom Brady the greatest athlete ever. What up, guys?
Starting point is 00:21:57 This is Cody from Tennessee. Look like a husky, Sergio Garcia. I've got a limited fake Billy Ray Cyrus for you. Whose balls are juiced? Hey, this is Bull in a big truck. My hot take is that the worst hot dog you ever had at a ballpark is still better than the best nachos you ever had at a ballpark. Limited fake Slim Shady.
Starting point is 00:22:23 Nanny, everybody want to talk? They got something to say, even if it comes out and they move the leaves, it's a bunch of jibber-bits. This is Liam from Fort Wayne. I'd just like to say that Girl Scout Cookies and Eric Clapton are basically the same. They're both adequate, perfectly fine, but people pretend they're a lot better than they really are. Well, for Florida P again, my bold take is Denzel is overrated as an actor. But people pretend they're a lot better than they really are.
Starting point is 00:23:06 So much to chew on there. Speaking of cocaine. Paul from a big truck. Why do adults want high fives from golfers? Put it on the pole please, Juju, at Levitard Show. Why do adults? I love that. I love going to golfing events. You know what? It's the simple pleasures in life.
Starting point is 00:23:24 Just going out there, drinking your hand, wearing shorts, going, woo, after a drive. Rory! Yeah. It's one of those things that you do, right? You just do it, and you never think about it. Like, if I see the rope there, and Rory's coming, I'm walking over there.
Starting point is 00:23:39 You got it. You got it like a stick in the hand out. You're just chilling with your drink, and you got like an open gate and you're just walking and you're going, woo, it's the best in your shorts. So was it Anthony Davis first, Libby Dunne and Paul Skeens? Yeah, does he get two rackets or is it just him on his own?
Starting point is 00:23:54 Like can he hit with both hands? I think one racket. It'd be confusing. Just one racket. Why would he have two, Jeremy? I don't know, just for the extra reach. If you're playing two on one, you get him an extra racket. I mean, they have two, why not? Yeah, they have two rackets.
Starting point is 00:24:04 He should have the option of having two. He should get two rackets if he wants it. I feel like you're picturing like an octopus though. Not like a human man. Anthony Davis, yeah. I think I'd be worse at tennis with two rackets. Most people would be. Yeah, all right. You know what, I take it back.
Starting point is 00:24:17 You shoulda tased me when I asked the question. Just pastels, patterned shirt, a dad cap. Which hole you guys wanna go to? Basically what you're wearing now. You guys wanna go to nine or 12? Which hole you guys wanna go to? Basically what you're wearing now. You guys wanna go to nine or 12? Which way you guys wanna go? We following the pack? We following the pack?
Starting point is 00:24:33 Oh, I forgot to put on sunscreen. I gotta take a piss. Hovland's about to be at 14. Oh, Hovland. He crushes it. Is the worst hot dog at a ballpark? Yes. That was a great take. Best nachos.
Starting point is 00:24:47 Best take ever. The worst nachos. I thought. Or was it the best nachos? No, I think he said worst hot dog better than the best nachos. He's saying the worst hot dog will be better. Is better than the best nachos. The best ballpark.
Starting point is 00:24:59 So always get the hot dog. I'm with this guy. Nachos at ballparks and stadiums? Awful. Way overrated. Wait, Jessica. You okay? You're still you I think I'm pretty sure that the what he was saying Is that the worst hot dog at a ballpark is better than the best nachos at a ballpark. He's correct
Starting point is 00:25:15 Yes, you want us to play it back? I want to hear the Kermit the frog guy from a few weeks ago hit on me again You want to play the whole thing back again both things Chris Cody said not doing old heavy tongue says no Heavy tongue is out on that to battle Just trying to get clarity on it, I mean I but I thought That ball parks keeping up with the times baseball's done a really good job, Stu Gotz, of being ahead in the media space, and ballpark amenities has been something over the last 10 years that the best ballparks
Starting point is 00:25:53 do it absolutely right. Like those are gourmet experiences and you're having a night out with the family to ballpark in a different way. I thought the nachos had been upgraded. It was not any longer the chips and three things from the cheese whiz. Like I way, I thought the nachos had been upgraded, it was not any longer the chips and three things from the cheese whiz. Like I thought, I thought.
Starting point is 00:26:08 Oh yeah, my nachos at the Orange Bowl were upgraded, there was a third ingredient, it was plastic, from something, just in my nachos. But even these upgraded nachos, they get soggy in like three minutes, it's like, you have like four minutes. It's not something to get in a gig, right? Four minutes of good nachos. I'm totally with you.
Starting point is 00:26:24 This is what I'm arguing, and I say this not knowing, get in a gig. Four minutes of good nachos. Totally with you. This is what I'm arguing and I say this not knowing because it's been a minute since I had nachos at the ballpark. However, I would make the argument that at least what they did in San Francisco once upon a time with their meals, that there are culinary experiences in the major leagues that we might have some ignorance about because I think somebody might now be making nachos.
Starting point is 00:26:46 More than one group. I think there are gourmet ballparks that take great pride in their food and that the nachos somewhere are a famous thing that everyone likes to have. But I'm guessing it's not based on any information. Word you're saying it's not good ballpark food. You have to make nachos with chips and chips get soggy when they're outside. It's just not, it's not something I would get at a game. It's something nachos for me have to be ordered in the restaurant and eaten immediately. Like the second they're ready, that's when you eat them. There are certain things, Dan, you don't get to go.
Starting point is 00:27:19 Nachos, potato skins, those things have to be eaten at the restaurant, at the point of execution. I'm taking this very seriously. You're cooking right now, they don't get soggy because they're outside, they get soggy because of the cheese. You said the chips get soggy for being outside. I mean, roof open, Marlin Stadium, July, go ahead. Condensation.
Starting point is 00:27:39 Condensation, if you just leave chips outside. It's not a good thing to eat outside, I'm telling you guys. Same potato skins. I mean you guys want to hear Kermit the frog hitting on Jess I thought you said you weren't gonna do that heavy tongues got bad judgment today No, call me Glad we did that they need to do better. Okay. I liked it Why okay look I Don't know why you insist Chris Cody and on making your mark in the world by doing a limited fake Steve from Sex in The City, I don't know why you've decided that this is the lane in media that you're gonna chase Peter Schrager with.
Starting point is 00:28:29 Miranda? Why? Why do you keep lashing us with these Steve impersonations from Sex and the City? Miranda? That's been living in my head since I heard it. For the rest of time, when someone says to me, Sex and the City, I'll think of Miranda? Just in the shower, shampooing my hair,
Starting point is 00:28:58 out of nowhere I'll just go, you ain't Miranda? It was a bit overacted. He, um. Miranda? New yin. New yin. New yin. New yin. It was a bit overacted. He, um. New yin. New yin. New yin. Taylor and I have been trying to put together
Starting point is 00:29:10 like a video where we put all of the Sex and the City characters into the tier maker, like we did for the Lord of the Rings, just for no reason, just because, I think because he actually started watching Sex and the City for the first time a few months ago. So I was like, oh, I'll rewatch a few episodes. But then I realized that when I was ranking the characters, they
Starting point is 00:29:27 all were in just a tier called the worst people ever. And that's not fun because if you put them all in the same tier, it kind of defeats the purpose. But I hate all of them. Chris, can we get that sound again of you having the, again, I will say the heavy hockey tongue from one night before the playoffs have started. He, he could, he would, but he, he could. Okay, the last. He, he could, he would, but he. The last three years, Chris,
Starting point is 00:29:56 do you know what hockey has done to your father, to this show? I'm scared of it. We made his dad a legend. I'm scared of it. Listen to me, okay, I don't think this show. I'm scared of it. He made his dad a legend. I'm scared of it. No, no, listen to me, okay. I don't think this show can handle what the next two months bring.
Starting point is 00:30:11 I don't, we've got reinforcements, we're stronger than we've ever been, it's too much game, too much action, and Chris has a heavy tongue, and we haven't even started yet, and I thought his father was gonna die writing columns on Deadline running back and forth between championship games, this traffic,
Starting point is 00:30:30 and getting to this hotel so that the end of his career can be marked by dying at a computer because he's got a belly button flap that needs surgery and he's coughing every six minutes. When you're talking about how busy things are, are you talking about the Marlins? Red Hot, over 500. I was watching baseball late last night,
Starting point is 00:30:52 I'm like, Padres, I like the Padres. They were so close to beating the Dodgers last year. They hate each other, that can be such a good series if they knock them off one time. It'll be three or four fun years of wait, the Padres are gonna be actually, they were so close. They're 14 and three. Terrible.
Starting point is 00:31:14 Liranda? I took the Dodgers last night. There's nothing like betting a late night baseball game. I am a little concerned what the hockey playoffs in particular are gonna do to my body again. But now I'm approaching it differently because consecutive cup runs, one of them being unexpected as the final seed there,
Starting point is 00:31:31 I now, look, those two years, I didn't know if I was ever gonna be there again. You know, it's been a while, certainly. But now I think I'm approaching this, I put myself and my liver basically on the long term IR for an entire month, understanding I need to test my mind body. You've been training for this.
Starting point is 00:31:50 Oh yeah, testing my mind, body, and spirit. Testing your eyes with that shirt. I wasn't wearing it. It's a bad day to go viral. The way hockey works though, the Panthers are going to lose this first round, right? This is the way hockey works. I think the Panthers have arrived at a place
Starting point is 00:32:06 where you want to arrive as a team, right? They don't care about seeding. No, I know, that's the thing. And hockey when it's like, oh, the Panthers are gonna show up. I don't know, I'm just a little nervous with how everyone is assuming now that the Panthers are gonna win.
Starting point is 00:32:16 I wanted, I didn't talk to Roy about this yesterday and I wanted to because I don't happen to think that Washington is just gonna get strangled by everybody because it's now playoff hockey, but maybe I have this wrong. I do have to stop though for a moment. It's gone unsaid for too long in this program. That shirt, Mike.
Starting point is 00:32:36 Yeah. I wish I wasn't wearing this f***ing shirt. Look, I decided to go at Ryan Clark on the one day of the calendar year where I'm dressed more ridiculously than him. Can we talk about how it's like performance material? Take my eyes, not the shirt. Finally a costume.
Starting point is 00:32:54 Finally somebody wears a costume and goes viral. You know, I was feeling pretty good about myself. And then I saw that photo and I just knew it was coming my way. John Amici, thank you for all your good work. I shouldn't have been so goddamn good on that clip. Why'd you have to run up the score? Why'd you have to be so good?
Starting point is 00:33:15 I like that Dan hired John Amici to try to get us to our costumes. It's great, it's paying dividends already. Literal dividends. Mike New, look, can I go back for a second? Okay, when I'm talking for a second, okay, when I'm talking about in the tapestry of what it is has been 20 years,
Starting point is 00:33:29 I'm telling you out loud that I'm leaking confidence and my executive producer with a heavy tongue is doing the greatest show I've ever heard in only my ear. And I'm headed into a playoff run that has battered his family and ours. Mm-hmm. I have a montage of you using the word understand as a crutch. Is it indeed 27, 28 years? Because both of those shows, I don't think that people understand.
Starting point is 00:33:58 You have to understand. Now I understand a lot of people lie about their height and weight. Do you understand how rare it is to get to the postseason? I simply don't understand. OK, so I misunderstood what it is that you were telling me. Oh, it's tricky. I'm just going to make such a dumb decision that I make everyone think it's conspiracy because they don't understand why I made that decision. This is one of the things that I don't think people understand
Starting point is 00:34:21 about television. Any of us can understand it, but to be professional is to not be that. You do understand, right? That was all from yesterday's show. Get outta here. That's why I'm leaking content. Which hole does it leak out of? Just out of curiosity.
Starting point is 00:34:39 Is this a biohazard? Should we call paramedics? It's been a lot of talking for four years and now we're headed into the playoffs and I'm not built for it. I gotta be honest. Miranda? I'm not being led by that, I'm not.
Starting point is 00:34:53 Here's what I'm telling you America, and I'm sorry, rarely is someone in my position this vulnerable. I can't handle what's coming this way. I'm just telling you, I'm too late in life. It's just the hockey playoffs, man. No, it's not just the hockey playoffs. It's the hockey playoffs and the basketball playoffs,
Starting point is 00:35:13 and it's too much. It's snorting. You'd say, you told me earlier in the show, no, if you give me an hour, I can't get cocaine. But it's hockey playoffs, and they're the defending champions. And and it's insane it's always insane every every year that we haven't talked hockey around here because we didn't have the champions or something that was obviously championship good after 30
Starting point is 00:35:38 years of God it's never good except that one year never and I never any good no playoff wins nothing we. We never get to enjoy the hockey playoffs in South Florida. So now we have it and we're complaining about it. I'm not complaining about it. I'm sorry if it sounds like a complaint. What I said was, I'm sorry America, I'm not built for this. It's too much to have the hockey playoffs be better than the basketball playoffs as they are every single year and the local team can beat anybody. But there are 10 teams that can beat anybody.
Starting point is 00:36:09 They're not going to have home ice this year. So that's going to be a change of pace. They're probably going to open up with Tampa Bay here on the road and it's going to be a more difficult march for the Florida Panthers than it was last season. But again, they've done this from an eight seed and they've done it from the one seed. They approached March like they were saving their bodies and going to play this healthy game and knowing that they'd already reached mountaintop. Veteran savvy teams tend to do that. This is still a young corps that should be in this conversation and give our livers plenty of a workout over the next five years or so. This is a core that was put together young and designed for this long run.
Starting point is 00:36:47 But it does have Brad Morchan on the team and that is a huge point against. Chris, are you worried about this with Mike? Because I don't like the position that he's put himself in. He's gotten very good over the years of sort of being obnoxious. Like Mike likes sort of the playful Heat Twitter for 15 years. Didn't he claim he invented heat Twitter?
Starting point is 00:37:07 No, no, I definitely did. Yeah, he did. Culture was a work that I also created. Give him his credit where it's due. That's all Mike. So Mike likes sort of fighting the internet on these certain sports pages. He likes fighting.
Starting point is 00:37:22 Well, but also with great arrogance sometimes, and he brought it today straight at Ryan Clark. I regret that because he's very online. And I wore this shirt. So I've got a lapel pin joke and that's all I got. And so, you know what, I'm just gonna go away for a couple of days. Today was not a great day for me.
Starting point is 00:37:42 It was just too much. But it was a great day. Great day, bad shirt. Terrible shirt. Yeah. Well, so what happened take me through what you know I'd lost some weight saw this shirt hanging up there for the last few months. I'm like Let me we try old girl on see if I still got Like it's debatable whether you had it at all Mike, but whatever the shirts on now, and we already steamed it Let's get out of here. Yeah, you're feeling better about your body these days And that probably is so you like the fit of that, but then you buttoned it up all the way to the top
Starting point is 00:38:13 Well, I didn't like the way that it looked open because it's not it's not a quality shirt This was an IG Is I see it open yeah? Yeah? Classic it's your classic IG shirt classic I like shirt you get like seven for the price of one and right maybe four of them are good matching pants It's an IG shirt. Can I see it open? Yeah, yeah, look. Yeah, go ahead. It's your classic IG shirt. Classic IG shirt. You get like seven for the price of one, and maybe four of them are good. Matching pants.
Starting point is 00:38:29 The buttons are not in the right places. No, I don't have matching pants. But you see how the pattern's done on the inside of the shirt? Mm-hmm. That always strikes me crazy. That's a $12 shirt. Although on TV, I should have had it buttoned open.
Starting point is 00:38:39 Right. Do you dare go at Ryan Clark or anyone else again while also opening yet more shirt to reveal your pasties? I'm not wearing that. I'm not wearing the pasties with this shirt. This one's actually, you know, it's good. It's good for. The pepperoni nipples haven't been out in a while.
Starting point is 00:38:56 No, no, no, I mean, you lose a little weight and the nipples look better. Is that true? Put it on the Poll at Levitard show. Do you lose a little weight and the nipples look better? I think generally speaking, right? We feel safe with that. That's a good take. Is that true? Put it on the poll at Levitard Show. Do you lose a little weight and the nipples look better? Generally speaking, right? We feel safe in that.
Starting point is 00:39:08 That's a good take. I don't, I'm at, okay. Not a good take. Vote number one, Juju from Mike says that's a good take. What do you guys do with the shirts? Cause like the opposite of what Mike's doing. You throw on a shirt for the first time in a while, you're like, okay, this is snugger than I'd want it to be.
Starting point is 00:39:24 I have like a shelf in my closet that they just go. Like, all right, that's where you're going. first time in a while, you're like, okay, this is snugger than I'd want it to be. I have like a shelf in my closet that they just go. Like, all right, that's where you're going, see you in a couple months. They stay there forever? Take you for a walk in a couple months. Chris, I'm glad that you mentioned that because I did have a bunch of shirts in my closet
Starting point is 00:39:36 that I'm like, I usually would give this away, but I'm gonna get skinny again. And I'm gonna wear that shirt. They're motivators. I have a few shirts that are like, someday, I'll get back in you. Are're motivators. I have a few shirts that are like, someday, I'll get back in you. Are they not a little more depressing
Starting point is 00:39:47 than motivating though? Cause every time I look at the shirts that I have where I'm like, oh, I'm gonna get back into that someday, the more time that passes without getting back into it, the more I realize it's not gonna happen. There's a sadness in how many shirts are getting into that pile. Yeah, exactly. So many.
Starting point is 00:40:00 Like it started with three. Shelf is getting heavy. So many. I spent so much money on double XLs too, and it's just like. You made the leap. But now I'm looking back at the other side of the closet, and I'm like, don't worry, I'll get back to you. It doesn't matter in time. You made the leap? It's a tough leap.
Starting point is 00:40:14 I mean, it is. You know, do you guys realize? You know, I had the greatest feeling ever. I hosted a gala over the weekend, and that wasn't a great feeling. It's just. Look at me, Louis. Look at me, Louis. Look at me, Louis. Look at me, Louis. I realize. You know, I had the greatest feeling ever. I hosted a gala over the weekend, and that wasn't the great feeling. It's just, I was just.
Starting point is 00:40:28 Look at me, Louis. Look at me, Louis. Chillin'. It's a black tie and back, right? I know I had one tux, and I was just sittin' back, I'm like, I know I fit in that tux. I'm not gonna put that tux on till Saturday. Normally, anytime someone dies, I'm like,
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