The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 2: Help, I've Been Orbitally Altered! (feat. Amin Elhassan)

Episode Date: January 5, 2026

"You were the waitress with the pretty eyes and locked-in gaze who served our table. I was the guy who was slurring the drink orders." Amin delivers his Weekend Observations, which feature a recur...ring Mike Ryan theme, and the members of the Shipping Container who attended the Winter Classic felt it was a total disaster in nearly every way. But other than that, the vibes were great. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is the Dan Levitar show with the Stucats podcast. I'm curious as before we get to Amin al-Hasson and his weekend observations, with all of the analyzing that we do of football, all of the love that we have of transactions and player movement and when a team gets a star, what has happened to the Jacksonville Jags since trading for Jacobi Myers is startling. They are a team that is running rough shot over people. They are not turning the ball over anymore. They have 18 touchdowns. Their offense is formidable and not to be questioned
Starting point is 00:00:41 over the last six weeks. If you look at their losses over the course of this season, it's only against good teams. They've beaten a lot of good teams. Jacoby Myers has changed the landscape of when we were talking about Daniel Jones, and they traded for Sauce Gardner. And we talked a lot about sauce gardener why wouldn't more people talk about jacobi meyers as a season shifting conference shaping acquisition i think because the numbers aren't big like you're really going in the weeds if you acknowledge what chocby meyers has done because it moves one player to the slot and jacobie mire's the better uh receiver on the outset and that guy was like jacobie meyers though is not putting up big time numbers no but their offense is it's it's five and a half
Starting point is 00:01:25 game since Thanksgiving, 18 touchdowns won turnover. They've won eight in a row. We only doubt them because no one's going to believe in Trevor Lawrence until he's done it, but what I'm telling you is over the last half of a season, he has. It's not up for a dispute. He's putting up statistically
Starting point is 00:01:41 numbers that make their offense something that's rolling. I think it's also easier to give the credit to Liam Cohen. I think that's probably the easiest thing. Well, but we're doing the change of power in football. So Ben Johnson, the Chicago Bears presently have the best quarterback they've ever had.
Starting point is 00:01:59 Caleb Williams almost got 4,000 yards. They're the only franchise in the NFL's history that has never had a 4,000 yard passer. They're set for the next few years because they've got a quarterback who can bring the last two weeks his team back from down 16-0, even if they've been farting around all game. You've got two teams where the new young coordinator came and said, you know what, give me a stallion quarterback and let me show you what I can shape him into. And both of those teams are not only exceeding expectations, they're similar, and
Starting point is 00:02:31 Jacksonville will not be believed in until after they've won the championship. How much of a role does Trevor Lawrence's emergence, and granted, really in the second half of the season, which also coincides with Jacoby Myers' acquisition, but how much does it matter that Liam Cohen is there now, and we see what's happened to Baker Mayfield this season in Tampa minus Liam Cohen? I think he's the difference. I'm worried about this if I'm a Bill's fan. It's a good team, and also the Jags.
Starting point is 00:03:00 They occupy this weird place in NFL history where they have like this one outlier weird run and then they're bad the very next season, but the run takes them all the way to the AFC championship game. I have made my assessments on what the top of that sport is based on watching what Seattle and the Rams have been doing and thinking that they're the best. but I would put Jacksonville, Jacksonville's talent level, I would put in a class and into class with them only because I haven't seen anyone do that to Denver at Denver this year.
Starting point is 00:03:33 That's a defense that's crazy good. Like that defensive line is crazy good and there were no answers for what Jacksonville took to Denver. Like Denver's supposed to have the best advantage in the AFC because they get to play a couple of home games and they get a buy, but they should be terrified if Jacksonville rolls in. of that. Even with Sir Tan back, they had no answers for Jacksonville, and he's the defensive player of the year. I was really surprised at what Seattle did on Saturday night. I thought San Francisco is going to win that game, and they hold, you know, you want to talk about Denver's defense. San Francisco's been the hottest team in the NFL up until this weekend, and Seattle holds them on the road to three points? Well, is Mike McDonald's record
Starting point is 00:04:11 now 15 and 2 on the road the last two seasons? Is he 15 and 2 the last two seasons with a team that travels. But doesn't need the one seed because the thing with Sam Darnold, his QBR is not very good over the last few games. The same thing that people fear with Sam Darnold is the thing that can wreck this season, just like it wrecked Minnesota's last one. Another storyline that's interesting for me is that if San Francisco can get out of the first round, Fred Warner's return is looming. He might, as sick as it sounds, he might be back for them. Amino Hassan. Oh. Per Adam Schefter, Raiders have fired head coach Pete Carroll.
Starting point is 00:04:55 Wow, that's a big reaction from a meme. Look at that. He's joining us from a frozen tundra somewhere. You're surprised that Pete Carroll's been fired after going 3 and 14 and after yesterday's big victory in Travis Kelsey's final game over the Kansas City Chiefs. He delivered. They won the number one overall pick. They got it. Why to get fired? Again, just a reminder. Because they were terrible. Atlanta Falcons fired Rahim Morris two years ago could have had Bill Belichick. Things changed a lot in two years. Are you ready to do weekend observations?
Starting point is 00:05:28 I mean, before we do, I've had a question I've wanted to text you for the last two weeks, and I haven't done it, so I'm just going to ask you on air. Please explain why the Cleveland Cavaliers are regressing. Why is that team not at the top of the conference? There's a couple of reasons. They've dealt with injuries, that's for sure. But even without the injuries, they just haven't played well. And really, it's their offense.
Starting point is 00:05:48 Their offense a year ago was stellar, and now it's simply good. Their defense is also regressed. They've gotten worse on that end. I think they're suffering from some depth issues as well. And then if you listen to, I know you like rumors and murmurs and whispers, but it feels like Kenny Atkinson might be wearing a little thin on some of the guys. He is a very demanding coach, and the rumblings are like, yeah, the guys are kind of reaching their limit to how much like they'll take from him.
Starting point is 00:06:18 him. It's been two years. It hasn't even been that. And he reinvented them and he got Mobley's usage rate in a place and made them good offensively. Well, Dan, as we saw with Chris Paul, sometimes you can be right and still a jackass that nobody wants to be around. I'm not calling Kenny Atkinson a jackass, but I'm just saying that that is a possibility. You can be someone who is an irritating person who is also right. I mean, Draymond Green got ejected again over the weekend. Why does Steve Kerr look surprised every time? I think this time they felt like it was a quick ejection. The thing was he got teed up and then he kept complaining and Kevin Cutler, he said something that made Kevin Cutler say absolutely not
Starting point is 00:07:00 second T, you're out of here. From the Warriors perspective, you know, I've told the story before Rashid Wallace, not getting teed up because, quote, that's just how he talks. The Warriors perspective, it felt like Baymond Green was just doing whatever he usually does and that didn't rise to the level of a second technical. Having said that Kevin Coutt, is a really respected referee. He's not a guy who's emotional. He gives guys a bunch of leeway. And so for him to say absolutely not get out of here,
Starting point is 00:07:29 Draymond must have said something that crossed the line. Hey, Jeremy, happy holidays. Happy Junuka. I want to toast you. Actually, I don't. I will toast with you. Okay. We're co-workers.
Starting point is 00:07:40 Mm-hmm. Friends, you could say. No, we cannot say that, but we both enjoy an ice cold Miller light. That's true. Especially around the holidays. You know, it's a 50th anniversary of Miller Light. It's really amazing.
Starting point is 00:07:51 Every time we say that, I can't believe it. Well, it's crazy because, like, they've basically been partners with the Dan Levitard show for half of their existence. Wow. When I put it to you that way, we got an old-ass show. Yeah, we do. That's crazy. Hey, let's look around at our friends, not each other, and our family, even though they're not here. I do miss your brother, though.
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Starting point is 00:10:12 See official rules at program website. Don Lebatard. Chris Cody does an impression. Just be careful. Dangerous game. This is a dangerous game. I don't want to play this game. No, he was saying, man, I could do such a great Kendrake.
Starting point is 00:10:22 No, I don't want to play this game. He's like, man, I can talk to you else like him. This is who we're going to trust with this. Let's let Amin do it, I think. Stugat. I think you could do it, Chris, because you did a great Charles Barkley. You're one for one there. Did no one just hear the segment we just did with Amin?
Starting point is 00:10:38 We cannot be taking counsel from the local drunk on whether or not you should do the impersonation of a black man stumbling over his word. Like, you don't see the bad charge in that. There was. Moza Moody. Moody, Moses? Don't, don't. You need that.
Starting point is 00:10:55 It sounds worse. Be careful, man. We got to, like, we cannot do this. It's too close to the line. This is where the line is. Something legitimately funny can't be funny because we're scared. Our ginger's going to do something racist by accident. Carry the hell on, Dan.
Starting point is 00:11:11 Rachel. Dan, the line is where we feel alive, though. This is the Dan Levitar show. With the Stucats. It is time for him to share his game notes. No one in the media will tell you what happened better than my boy. I mean. Weekend Observations is brought to you by Miller Light.
Starting point is 00:11:30 Legendary moments. Start with a light. Dan. Holy shit. Mike was right. Holy shit. Mike was right. The Cains.
Starting point is 00:11:45 Aggie the Aggies. They bucked up. the Buckeyes. And now all that stands between them and the national title game is a school that thinks being proud of being on the wrong end of the war about slavery is somehow a cool thing. The rebels. It kind of makes those 40-minute segments where Mike drills on and on about teenagers I've never heard of worth it. Almost. The nuggets might be cooked. They lost to the Nets last night, who started some dude named Igor. Google told me it's pronounced Yagor and not Igor, even though it's spelled
Starting point is 00:12:18 E. Gore. Google also told me that he was a lottery picked last June. Google further informed me that he started 23 games this season. Google is passively aggressively telling me I haven't watched a lot of Nets games this season. Amin, Yolkid should get
Starting point is 00:12:34 another MVP, and this one's the clearest one of them all. Specifically for this. I mean, the day that went, the week we were off, the idea that he had 18 4th, or 18 overtime points, and went for like 56, 16, and 15 the other day? Like, there's never been a player like this.
Starting point is 00:12:52 They scored like 30 points in five minutes of basketball. It was unbelievable. Incredible. The Finns almost made good on Greg Cody's preseason prediction. I won't lie, that first drive when Quinn Ewers was money on every throw had me hype. I was like, holy shit. Mike Wright was right about, Mike Ryan was right about the canes. Then I said, holy shit.
Starting point is 00:13:15 Mike McDaniel is the quarterback whisperer Then they turned it over on downs in the red zone And they lost about like a million points And I thought never mind But Mike Ryan was right The Giants You had one job over the last two weeks of the season And that was to be as bad as you've been
Starting point is 00:13:34 For the first 16 weeks of the season And somehow they blew it All of a sudden now they know how to play football Unbelievable To the elderly gentlemen sitting across the aisle from me on my red-eye flight. I promise you, you don't need the brightness all the way up to max on your 65-inch screen I've had. Especially if you're using it to listen to music. Christ Almighty.
Starting point is 00:14:00 I felt like I was escaping Alcatraz and they had the floodlights on me. The thunder lost their mojo. What happened? They're six and five in their last 11, and we were talking. Zadzlo was saying they were going to win 80. They're not even going to win 70. Remember that movie, Dan, Austin Powers? The Spy Who Shagged Me?
Starting point is 00:14:20 Lost his mojo. That movie turns 27 this year. Put it on the poll at Levitart Show. Are you surprised that Austin Powers turns 27 this year? What happened to Mike Myers? That's a great question. What did happen to Mike Myers? I think he's just rich and chilling.
Starting point is 00:14:38 It's okay to be rich and chilling. You don't have to be doing stuff all the time. put it on the poll please put it on the poll please at lebitard show is it okay to be rich and chilling and not aspiring to do anything any of the time shout out to eddie the mailman saw you at the steve nash charity soccer attorney in phoenix promise you i'd shout you out why do you keep doing this promptly forgot but in how el hasson always pays his debts the bills loving shit out of of the Jets in their last game at Ralph. Afterward, their fans celebrated by shoveling snow or taking out the trash or some shit. I don't know. Why do you say Ralph that way?
Starting point is 00:15:23 Because it makes me want to Ralph. Miss Connection. You were the waitress with the pretty eyes and the locked-in gaze who served our table. I was the guy who was slurring the drink orders. Don't look now, but here come the Celtics. I'm telling you not to look now. It's not because they've won seven.
Starting point is 00:15:42 of the last 10. Yeah, they look good. Not because they destroyed the clippers the other night behind Jalen Brown's 50 Burger. Not because they're three and a half games back of the pistons for the one seat in the east. I'm telling you not to look now because you don't have to look at all.
Starting point is 00:15:55 Just close your eyes and listen to the wine coming from Boston. Holy shit. Mike Ryan was right. I mean, but also, holy shit. The persecution complex from these guys. Tatum's coming back. Tatum's going to be back soon.
Starting point is 00:16:10 Eh, he's not going to be back soon. That's just, it's just, no, he's not coming back. But the other day, Jalen Brown took to social media and his stream, he's a streamer now, Dan, to complain about not winning Player of the Month. Ah, please. Player of the Month. He said, quote, no disrespect, no disdice or Brunson, but neither one of them had a better month than I had. First of all, I wonder how good of a month Jalen Brown would have to have to be SGA for Western Conference Player of the Month.
Starting point is 00:16:39 in the words of Victor Maitland that'd be a neat trick Remember that Dan Victor Maitland That's a Beverly Hills cop Yeah Here you go That movie's a bad guy
Starting point is 00:16:50 That movie's 40 years old Movie turns 42 this year Second thing I thought of We're whining about player The Month now I worked for front offices For almost a decade I worked in media
Starting point is 00:17:03 Covering the NBA for almost a decade and a half I've been an NBA fan for about four decades I promise you I could not name a single player of the month recipient a day after they announced it. Other than the one that Hakeem won in 95 because he won't player of the month while fasting the entire month for Ramadan. It's a crazy story. Feels like someone will make a sick documentary about that. Dan?
Starting point is 00:17:27 Loud wrong on the Panthers. Now I'm rooting for the only way you can be even louder wrong if they somehow beat the Rams in the playoffs. What a bullshit team that is. A bullshit team This week on Cinepho Watching you lose 16 to 14 in the rain to Baker Mayfield fucking up my Saturday afternoon because I got to pay attention to you
Starting point is 00:17:50 And you lose the game but your season's not done Because I got to watch Saints Falcons Bleep you, Panthers This week on Cinepho We did 200 cigarettes A period piece vignette movie about New Year's Eve With a star to study cast featuring Ben Affleck Casey Afflitt, Kate Hudson, Martha Plimpton, and Dave Chappelle.
Starting point is 00:18:10 Fun fact, they shot it on location in the Lower East Side of Manhattan, and the lady who lived in one of the buildings where the location was, protested the movie being made because she didn't like cigarettes. Cinephope, wherever you get podcasts. While you're at it, please check out, here's the science of Bar Rescue podcast. I saw Sing Song Blue over the weekend. You seen that movie, Dan? No, no, I've not seen that.
Starting point is 00:18:38 Holy shit. Mike Ryan was right about the Cains. But also, holy shit. I did not know what that movie was actually about. Has anyone in there seen it? I know what it is. I know what it's about. I don't think you know what it's about.
Starting point is 00:18:52 No, I do. Incredible movie. I know what the little twist. Okay. All right. Incredible movie, yes. Great performances by Kate Hudson and Hugh Jackman. But I thought I was watching Saving Silverman
Starting point is 00:19:02 and ended up watching Saving Private Ryan. Totally mismatched energy. Wow. Holy shit. Mike Ryan was right. Also, holy shit, war is hell. Speaking of hell, Art Bryles, and those are the weekend observations.
Starting point is 00:19:16 Amin, thank you. Stick around here. We're going to keep going. I wanted to talk to you guys. We had not yet talked about it. The Panthers did beat Colorado yesterday. We have not covered the Panthers very much this season, but the Winter Classic was a bit of a disaster
Starting point is 00:19:33 at Lone Depot Park. Thank God I didn't go to that. The ballpark that David Sampson built that is now home to some major events and usually doesn't rise up to the moment with what those events are, whether it's concessions, lines, whether it's fan experience. How is it that that ballpark has already gotten outdated for major events? Well, I don't know that it was based on all the stories from like opening day back in 2012, it would never have been dated, right?
Starting point is 00:20:06 Like, this is always, all these issues that I'm sure you'll explain here, Mike, because I didn't go, I'm glad I didn't go. This has always been the case, right? By the way, I should mention, the Rangers beat the Pants as 5 to 1. It's an outdoor game. The Rangers are dominant outside. The Panthers that champions cannot win outside. So I went to the Winter Classic.
Starting point is 00:20:24 I was stunned at how expensive this ticket was. Never drop below 500 day off. It was crazy. Shout out to game time, though. I did find a good deal, like one sub $400. a seat ticket price and I pounced all over at promo code Dan. But I've been to Marlins Park mostly not for Marlins ball games. I've been in like three Marlins ball games.
Starting point is 00:20:44 I usually go there, either for monster trucks or a concert, the occasional world baseball classic, the worst day of my life, which was FIU Miami, and I went to this. And outside of the world baseball classic, there hasn't been one time where I come away with the feeling like, wow, this stadium operations gang has it together. everything is a huge pain in the ass the lines to get into the building amateur no order no communication people piled in like sard beans them directing themselves where to go why then for the winter classic you're excited about all these novelty snacks that they advertise hard to find signage next to nowhere and then when you get to the lines it takes you 40 minutes i walked around
Starting point is 00:21:29 the entirety of that lower level concourse looking for food everybody right ran out. There was just hot dogs. Hold on. They've actually run out of some food. They ran out of food. They ran out of a bunch of food and not just the novelty items. I went to get a cheese pizza. You think that that would be readily available. That's a popular item. Not available midway through the second period. I tried to rationalize my boys because I told them we were going to go but tickets never went below $500. So I'm like, listen, it's a good thing we're not going. It's going to be a disaster. They never have enough concessions. And like they're like, what do mean they don't have enough food? I'm just telling you.
Starting point is 00:22:04 They never have enough food. No, I actually got an Uber pretty quick, which I was like pumped about that. And then I sat in that car for a good 40 minutes having not moved because the stadium is located where it is. Infrastructure wise, like, it's tough in the
Starting point is 00:22:20 middle of little Savannah. But in terms of game ops, you control that. And I don't have a good reason as to why this place is always a disaster. But outside of all of that, I thought there was a good buzz in the air. I'm not kidding actually Like outside of
Starting point is 00:22:34 I agree with everything Like lines stink Don't get food You had the best weather The best weather in the United States Was happening Everyone seemed happy At the beginning of the games
Starting point is 00:22:43 It didn't feel like a celebration A festival of hockey Well keep in mind The concept of black off the street Because the player entrances Into the ballpark Especially for the Panthers Who all came in
Starting point is 00:22:53 In a fleet of Ferraris So they blacked off the road for that Yeah Panthers looked stylish Marchehan looks so good It seemed like we were more into that The pop and the circumstance and the actual game. I enjoyed watching on TV.
Starting point is 00:23:05 How it looked in Miami? You're kidding. Just how everything looked. It was all. I saw Barkoff carrying that cup out for the Sally song with Role Model, and I'm like, okay, he's ready to go. You think a Chuck could have carried it a little more. He's closer to being ready than Barker. And you mentioned saw them because you couldn't hear anything.
Starting point is 00:23:22 From the location, Mike and I were. I saw a role model performing. Who's role model? They play the Sally song. I don't know that fool. Yeah. I mean, they're like a movie with Paul Rudd. That's a role model.
Starting point is 00:23:33 He's had a big year. Role models had a big year. They were a big group. I was excited to hear the song that I knew and I could not, I'm not going to lie, could not hear it. I saw a TV broadcast of it. You could hear it on TV from where we were standing, not that far from that performance. I didn't even hear music. You know what I used to have for breakfast?
Starting point is 00:23:51 Cocaine. You know what I used to have for lunch? Cocaine. Don Lebertard. Again, started on the breakfast lawn. Oh, man. I've been singing the song. to myself all morning long.
Starting point is 00:24:00 Breakfast flaunt. Stugats. Have you never heard the breakfast flound song? No, hit me with that. Okay. I wish I had some breakfast flound. Breakfast flound. Where can I find a breakfast like that?
Starting point is 00:24:20 This is the Dan Levitar show with the Stugats. The reason that I want to put a microscope on this particular event is because a South Florida champion was protecting and presenting a hockey heirloom in a really unusual part of South Florida for that to exist outdoors. It's winter. It's our coldest day of winter, but it was like 50 degrees. absurd for us to have any of this in South Florida made more absurd by the fact that the Panthers are two-time champions and they're rolling into the place with Ferraris. But they lost five to one. And when Mike's talking about a otherworldly international stadium experience, he gives all this credit to Stephen Ross for doing that correctly every time at the stadium where
Starting point is 00:25:20 F1 and the dolphin disaster is. But this place was built by David Sampson and it was never meant to have this many people in it because they'd only get them. this many people one time a year for opening day and they'd run out of food then as well this kind of event our city and this particular haunted burial ground of a stadium where the marlins failed to do things well until recently um or not even not even it felt like copa america that's the only worst experience i've had trying to get into a game and get anything at a game And it was like the worst experience maybe in modern times because Kamenabal was in charge of that.
Starting point is 00:26:02 For it to be on Kaya Ocho, though, I mean, for it to be in a Hispanic neighborhood, Miami and South Florida were trying to show out that Dade County could represent well. And my guess is it looked great on television and just wasn't great in person. It did look great on television. I do have a question because in a situation like that, the Panthers are technically the home team. they control the gate they get the concessions and all that but they obviously because it's not their building they had to do a deal with the whoever the loan depot you know lease holder is whether it's the marlins there's a funny story about that too because the NHL is really the home team here the NHL handles and so they deserve some of this blame too because they should be more
Starting point is 00:26:44 across the ops it's not their first winner classic but as part of the initial negotiation Remember, they were supposed to build a Miami live, one of those live venues there. The pre-construction's there, but the NHL and the Florida Panthers had no idea that the plans were going to be for that to be built during the Winter Classic. And I think it actually postponed the true construction of that project because everyone was like, what do you mean? You're going to have an active construction site at the entrance of our Winter Classic. All in all, just a bad experience. One that I always have over there, which is I never have a good experience in that building. And I love going to ballparks
Starting point is 00:27:21 Because you only go in as a huge event Correct, but I love going to ballparks I can have a good time at a baseball game Sit down and just enjoy the ambiance Everything from the seat color To the lights It's just a garish looking place I don't like it
Starting point is 00:27:36 The ops are terrible I can't say a good thing about it Bulldoze it Well Well you can't have Once a classic at Harlem Rock Stadium Because it's within the football window They should have punted this
Starting point is 00:27:49 to Freedom Park was open because that place sucks. Stadium series, however, is the beginning of February. So you could probably have it there whenever the next time they have it. No, they'll never be allowed to have it again. What? Why? Come on, man. You can't have it be a horseshit experience the one time it comes down here?
Starting point is 00:28:08 They have one coming to Tampa a few days. Yeah, you keep saying that. You just wanted to celebrate your champion. You just wanted a reason to be the center of the sport again because your dad's T-shirts of McDavid being overrated are already selling in thrift stores. I wasn't eating, though. I was, that's not the Panthers's fault, though.
Starting point is 00:28:26 No, no one's putting this really on the Panthers. I'm putting this on the NHL and that ballpark. The Panthers? I've been to plenty of Panther games. I don't have bad times in Panther games. I can get food at Panther games. I'm putting this at the one place that I always have a bad time at. And that's Lone Depot Park.
Starting point is 00:28:41 Just because it's new doesn't mean it's good. It is bad. Start over. You just said bulldoze. Start over. Yes. It would be, that's start overing. Got it.
Starting point is 00:28:50 Has it ever happened that a stadium was bulldozed and they just built a new one? It's ugly. Tear it apart from the insides, build new stuff. It's just blue. No, it's awful. Like, my eyes hurt in that place, I hate it. Take it up with David Samson. He built the whole place.
Starting point is 00:29:05 He knows how I feel about that. Did I just say start overing? He said start overing and he said bulldoze it and there's no one reasonable around here. That stadium is just built. And it's sent such a ridiculous place. 15 years ago now. It's the only building I can think of where the surrounding, like immediate surrounding environment has zero restaurants, zero bars. There's a Wendy's.
Starting point is 00:29:29 Thank you. My apologies to Wendy. But that's the first thing I thought about the first time I went there. Roy says there's a brewery somewhere in there. Yeah, somewhere in the parking garage. They started putting people in now now. But you see what I'm saying? It's like you got it hidden.
Starting point is 00:29:43 Every other arena stadium in the nation, you walk up and there's like a bus. commercial district. Wait, I'm being told now they closed that brewery. Oh, God damn it, man. Do you guys not realize what happened here? They promised, Samson promised us an economy would build around that stadium in Little Havana. And there's a Wendy's. He lied. There's a Wendy's. Is Bull Bar still open? No, but its bones are still there. What's crazy is the Orange Bowl gets a lot of this nostalgia because it was just the first thing where people would congregate and watch sports and had good memories, but it was a dump. But even then, you know what it was like getting in and out of the Orange Bowl.
Starting point is 00:30:18 Even the in-game experience, concessions and all that, and getting in and out and logistics and no blocky, all that was a lot better run than this is. Jeremy, can you look up for me, please, real quick. Bull Bar, the original critique on Bull Bar, that on the internet, there was a, there's a famous review of Bull Bar, which used to be on the corner of what used to be the Orange Bowl. It's a place of great criminal activity. I would say it is the heartbeat, the beating heartbeat of all of South Florida. that this place...
Starting point is 00:30:49 Criminal activity. Oh, yeah. Come on. Criminal activity. People trying to get over, Dan. I had to go through, like, airport security in order to get in there the one time that I was there. The drinks were cheap. And the one review is famous on Bull Bar that...
Starting point is 00:31:04 I believe Adam Smoot wrote it. I just want people to know what Bull Bar was because right next to the Orange Bowl group. Give us time. You're asking for a Yelp review of a place that's been close for 15 years. We're working. Has been that long, 15 years? And for me to know what he's talking about, like, we're working on it. To be honest, though, where the bones stand, there's a massive, huge mural that says
Starting point is 00:31:27 Libert Taparakua, and there's like a Cuban flag, and there's like a whole bunch of stuff. So that's the place if you're driving on 17th and Flagler, it's right there on the corner. Welcome back from my brother's mural. I wanted to ask you a couple of different questions because we have not talked about the Jake Paul thing that happened a while ago, wildly unsatisfying. I thought if I was going to watch him get his jaw broken, I would enjoy it. I did not. It just was terrible and
Starting point is 00:31:51 he was crawling around on the floor and then his jaw... That part was tough, yeah. And, well, the whole thing was tough. He didn't belong. It's a dangerous human being to fight with and if he cocks back his right arm and hit you in the jaw and you're not a professional fighter so your mouth is wide open
Starting point is 00:32:07 because you're like, holy shit, here comes that punch. Because you're gasping for air? You're then on the floor. At least we can stop with the conspiracy theory stuff now, right? Can we at least put that stuff? You have a cinder block that hit Jake Palm broke his jaw in two places, we'll put that to know. But unsatisfying, though, right? Because you need him knocked out if that's how he's going to be hit.
Starting point is 00:32:23 You want him sobbing afterwards instead of like taking it. How cold is what he wanted. But if you're watching to see him, if you'd ask me before the fight, hey, will it all be worth it if he gets his jaw broken? Yeah, you'd say yes. And then I watched and I was like, not worth it. Dan wanted him snoring in the middle of thing. More pain? No, just unconscious brain.
Starting point is 00:32:44 Look, I wanted the brain. brain injury. I wanted the brain to move through the liquid protected buffer that keeps it from the skull and hit the skull in a way that left Jake Ball not with his faculty. 20 seconds of fear where we're like, is he going to be okay? Yeah, yeah. Yes. That's what he did to Francis and then he comes to and like, we're like, okay, he's fine. Longer than 20 seconds. To be honest, though, the shot that he took that did eventually knock him down and knock him out for the fight was a vicious shot. Well, not only was it vicious, he went down to a knee, and I've never seen this before from somebody who just lost a fight. with their jaw broken. He just said, wow. Yeah. What did you think that was good? Yeah. That's what that's going to feel like. If you take that, it's going to break your jaw. That's the way that's going to work. But the other thing I wanted to ask you about, Tony, is Ospinall. Is his career over?
Starting point is 00:33:30 Like, when you're just going straight to multiple eye surgeries and your dad's talking about the details of, you know, we don't know if he's ever going to be able to see right again. You can't fight. You can't be. That guy's a legitimate champion. And he just, I think he's, just had his career ended by eye gouging. And that's the scary part, right? Like, he came back from a massive knee injury a couple of years ago where he tore his ACL on a return kick that knocked him out. He ends up getting back, storms through the heavyweight division, one of the best
Starting point is 00:33:59 knockout artists we've seen in the division, and then fighting a guy in Cyril Gahn who had his opportunity to be heavyweight champion, kind of faulted a couple times. And then in that fight where you think Tom is going to piece him up and knock him out and under the round, he's kind of getting pieced up by Cyril Gond. Cyrilgon goes in with the eye poke. Now, we're talking about a guy who's 6.5, 265 pounds in Cyril Gond, and his fingers are massive. So that finger went knuckle deep. And when it happened, a lot of MMA universe was saying, you got to tough that one out.
Starting point is 00:34:30 All the former champions that have gotten poked in the eye that have fought and through poked eyes have gone said, hey, or Chale Sondon said, hey, you got to finish that fight. Doesn't matter what's on the line. It doesn't matter if you can't see, you got to finish that fight. And now we're looking at two, three surgeries down the line of an eye thing. Like, that is a massive, massive surgery. You've got to take that back, right? I understand the fighting culture. I understand that they're all much more insane than I am and than we are.
Starting point is 00:34:53 Like, you have to be crazy to do that for a living. But you have to take that back once the guy needs multiple eye surgeries because it's not just an eye gouged. The man has been digitally, orbitally altered in a way that affects his vision for the rest of his life. That's a great way to put it. I've been orbidally altered. I mean, yeah, digitally and orbital. Listen to what you're saying. Go ahead and imagine.
Starting point is 00:35:20 I understand that some of these things feel like they're not. It's an alteration of the orbital power. Go ahead. Or knuckle deep. Imagine someone else's hand going knuckle deep into your eye. A very strong hand at that. I mean, what was the fight? Did you enjoy yourself at the fight?
Starting point is 00:35:35 I had a good time. Me, Juju, Trista, Danny Benitez, aka fake Dan. We had a nice time. He ate spaghetti, right? I believe we have a photo of it. Yes. Yeah, there he is. He ate the spaghetti.
Starting point is 00:35:50 Is that Dan or Danny? Unfortunately, as I foretold, Netflix wasn't as gung-ho to put us on their broadcasts was they figured out Dan Levitard wasn't there. It's kind of like the whole crux of it was that Dan would be there. And like that's a funny joke. Hey, we sent fake Dan. Unfortunately, Netflix didn't fall.
Starting point is 00:36:12 pour it. Well, and so it makes everything ruined, doesn't it? I mean, thank you. I wanted to bring up something regarding Netflix because, obviously, they're crushing it in sports. Whatever that Jake Paul thing was, I'm sure it was a monster
Starting point is 00:36:28 success. Whether you liked it or not, it doesn't matter. Netflix is now in the live sports business. And on Christmas Day, they took football. Football took basketball. Took Christmas Day from basketball, even with crud games. Like, just terrible games but football is Kingsport and it doesn't matter. And the thing that I wanted to ask you guys
Starting point is 00:36:47 is they brought in during the Cowboys Commanders game. They brought in Emmett Smith to talk to him during the broadcast for Dallas. And this is how bad Washington's been. Clinton Portis is who they had to go get to get the most legendary of Washington figures that can be had to talk about greatness in Washington football because Washington football hasn't been great. for so long. Your thoughts were what on how Netflix's broadcast did on Christmas Day as a first time undertaking? Yeah, I thought it was good. I mean, it really seems that Netflix in the live sports game, the only problem they've
Starting point is 00:37:26 ever had was the very first time they tried something. And that was the Jake Paul and Mike Tyson fight. Ever since then, whatever I guess kinks there were, I think Netflix has done a terrific job with the last sports. This is the second Christmas Day for Netflix, right? Yes. I mean, all of these streaming services are doing a great job, making everyone else be better at the production of television events. Yeah, I mean, it helps to have a bunch of money and the tech on your side.
Starting point is 00:37:55 You've really fallen apart here. We're going to let you go. Thank you. Wait, can you remind the people that I was right about the Miami Hurricanes? Mike was right. Petering out that way. Before you go, just so you know, Mike Myers working on Shrek 5. That's what he's been doing.
Starting point is 00:38:08 Of course you just. Counting money. in production. Just counting money. Excellent dismount. I mean, appreciate the way that you ended that segment. Just sort of licking, coughing, coughing, sounding sick, and generally uninterested malaise. It's very cold where I am.

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