The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 2: I Love Hitting All My Friends (feat. Cam Jordan)

Episode Date: January 22, 2025

NFL star Cam Jordan joins the show, and even though he wants to stay in the positive land of his foundation, Dan and the crew need to know which Tight End he believes would be the easiest to kill. He also tells us about his pure hatred of the Falcons, the only time he felt bad about sacking a QB, Tom Brady's broadcasting chops, and Cal Twitter. Then, Greg Cote's dentist is a yammerer, and his old neighbor gifted him with a golf club that is too small to nudge an iguana will. Plus, Stephen A. Smith rips the NBA All-Star game. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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This is the down labor tour show with this two guys podcast This episode of the Dan LeBattard show is two gods is presented by Venmo Before we get to cam Jordan, I've been wanting to talk to this guy for a long time, Stugats. One of the really good guys in the NFL. An immortal. Yep. An immortal.

Oh, now you're saying yes? That's a bit much. An, that's a bit much? For Cam Jordan, a bit much, yeah. A legend? I'm not gonna say it when Cam's on, but I'm saying it to you right now. He's already on.

Oh, Jesus, man. He's a menace of a man. He's good at everything. He's good at podcasting. He's good at sacking your quarterback. He's good at Walter Payton, man of the year. And I want to start off by doing this. I want to ask Cam Jordan if this is allowed. You've got the Philadelphia mayor coming out here and she is trying to do the Eagles chant. And I think it's the first rival that we have to one of the most famous sounds in our shows history listen to what other philadelphia mayor did here while trying to spell eagles

let me hear you all e d e e let's go bird what's the problem uh... cam what are your thoughts there on what just happened there in Philadelphia?

I got nothing on that one. I'd say big time players show up in big time moments to make big time plays. Sometimes the lights get a little bright. Sometimes you miss that ball. You know, we've seen it happen over at the Dallas Stadium earlier this year in the season. So I'm just gonna say to keep it in the division, the lights got a little bright.

Is that as bad as one of the most historic sounds in show history where a Miami city councilwoman tried to introduce Dwayne Wade after winning the championship and this is how it went. He's calm, collected, has a will to win, because his name, of course, is Wade Jones. Wade. The people clapping gets me every time.

The one stray, who that is? Who that is? Well, oh, again, when you face these big time moments, can you succeed? Are you in the best position to succeed? Maybe she caught the wrong notes. You know, maybe maybe she saw the potential in Pelican's Herb Jones and was thinking about the way he plays perimeter defense a lot like a Prime D Wade. So maybe that's the time.

You know, you're very kind, compassionate to failure in big moments. You are a compassionate person. As someone who understands not everyone gets to succeed. Hell, your game has had a lot of success in it, but it can't come with a lot of success unless there's also failure. Like, you don't get to be successful all the time when you're a 14-year veteran and you're an eight-time pro bowler

and still some guy will embarrass you on the next three plays. Absolutely. I was gonna say some guy embarrassed me on that app called X, but when you think about,, yeah, you could play 65, 75, almost 80 snaps. And if you walk away with the sack, in your mind, you have dominated the office of Lyman every snap of the game.

And on the flip side, you could play 65, 75, 80, 80 snaps and not come out with a sack, but have a hell of a game be as bad as they come in the run and the opposite lineman feel like he dominated you the whole game. So it's all about perception. And also, just like the mayor down in Miami, she thought she finished it strong. And sometimes, you know, you don't.

Sometimes sometimes you got to look at the glass like it's half full I see you know we say you probably need a need to have a better mentor forgive me for the interruption I do believe if people do not know that this is one of the greatest pass rushers of this generation to do it 14 years is a bit of a seismic accomplishment that I don't even understand how the human body does it. To do that and also be Walter Payton Man of the Year because your intent on using the platform for good is an unusual set of things that you have put together that is wildly impressive. What are you proudest of?

Man, I'm obviously going to push legacy. I'm overly proud that I've got a six-time Pro Bowl Vikings Ring of Honor dad, as well as a nine-year-old son who, you know, always wants to work just as hard as his dad did, just like I was in his shoes trying to work just as hard as my dad did. I'm excited and proud, extremely proud of my Cam Jordan Foundation and the way that we flipped the name this year from God is Love to the Cam Jordan Foundation, raised a quarter million dollars, which will now go towards scholarships for this, for the next generation who go towards scholarships for kids' college tuition this upcoming year, upcoming school year.

You'll have to forgive me for this, but this was a question that we were, it's a bad transition, but it's a question we were asking before you came on here. It needs to be asked. Wait, wait, wait. So you can't go from like, what are you proud of to, I'm sorry, have to ask this?

Well, we can't answer yet. You're right, because that is a sweet answer. And you seem like a sweet man when you're not dismembering quarterbacks. But the thing that Billy wanted to bring up from earlier in the show is we were trying to figure out which tight end would be easiest and hardest to kill. Like if we- There's context to it. With our bare hands, like not, yes, you can't use-

Well, no, you can trick them. Okay, Cam, here's the deal. Did you see those hands? Yes, those hands. We were talking yesterday about the immortals of the game and naturally Mark Andrews came up. And then we were talking about which tight ends would actually be immortal by the definition of the word and who

would be the hardest to you know kill or trap and who might be the easiest. Yeah the hardest would the hardest kill would be tight end Steve Jordan of the you know six-time pro-boat in Minnesota Vikings. I don't foresee the edipis situation situation ever happening. Like we're gonna have to kill my own father. That's tough. Right. The easiest kill would probably, man, if you look at the pantheon of tight ends. We thought we could trick Gronk.

Yeah, like if you went to the forest. It's anything, including death. Yeah, like I could probably clean kill Grunk, you know, like out the conscious, like conscious free. I'm like, hey Grunk, you know, there's your favorite meal behind the door. And it just be like a cliffhanger, you know? Like all you have to do is jump through this layer

of balloons and you get a million dollars. It's a well thought out answer. I mean. Like we thought of a scenario where Gronk goes into a forest and all of a sudden he's hanging upside down with his foot stuck to a vine because he like saw something. Yeah.

I think there's a potential to like cleanly do it. You know? I'd probably, the only way I'd counter that would maybe be Atlanta Falcons, Cal Pitts. If you like, if you throw them in a pit and then tell them to rise up, cause they never do. Whoa. Wow.

He hates the Falcons. Somehow meaner than actually talking about murdering someone. Yeah, that's wild to think about, Hey, all the good that I do for my foundation and then go in an easy kill situation. Yes, he is great with kids, but also he just told the American listening public that the way he would kill Gronk

is a layer of balloons that would lead to a cliff. That would do it though. And he's right, that's exactly how you would get him. You'd just throw a football through a layer of balloons. He's been waiting for that question his entire life. No, you know, I I'd say I'd say things like, you know, he was a he would he would be inspired to go full force because that's what kind of guy he is. He's a full throttle type of individual that played from snap to whistle.

So all you have to do is, you know, say, hey, there's a there's a touchdown on the other side of this door. And I just feel like he would go get it. You know, with the confidence and the swagger, if you will, of knowing that he can get things done. I'm gonna just reiterate, with the confidence and the swagger. Yes, there it is. If you will.

Look at him, he is a man. He is a man who sweats and needs to smell good. Cam, we've highlighted obviously all the great things that you do and how you don't actually wanna murder people. Have you ever said sorry after sacking a quarterback? Never, no, I almost said never have I ever. That's not true. I've only felt bad one time in my entire existence

of being a defensive end from the time I was 15 till now 35. And it was against Denver Broncos, COVID year, when they were like 17 quarterbacks down and they hired a quarterback like off the street a week before. And I like, I like sacked them and I didn't really want to, but I did, like I needed this, I needed to sack them, but I felt bad and I like looked at the sidelines.

I was like, why would you bring him out here? No. Why are you making me do this? What is the name? Who was it? Do you remember the name? You just felt bad for him? Yeah, no, he was, he was a really hard working individual.

Oh boy. Oh no. Was it Trevor Simeon? I mean. No, no. He literally, I think they literally picked him off. I think like the story was like, he might've been like bagging groceries weeks prior.

Kurt Warner. And then, yeah, and then picked him up. Not Kurt Warner, the opposite of Kurt Warner. Kendall Hinton went one for nine for 13 yards and two picks was sacked once in a 31 to three loss to the New Orleans Saints. That's your guy, right? I'm telling you, I felt bad. I wish I could have been a critical component. Like I wish I could have mentored him

after, you know, like, you know, just like the old spice that has a mentorship program that you can learn more about it. All right, Cam, listen and subscribe to Off the Edge with Cam Jordan from the NFL Podcast Network. And January is Mentorship Month. Visit oldspice.com slash school of swagger because it is why he's here. So I looked up Kendall Hinton,

and when you look him up on Wikipedia, it starts with, is an American professional football wide receiver. Yeah. He played quarterback in college, so they were so down that they- Technically not a sack, I mean, of a quarterback. That's what I'm saying.

Again, I felt bad, and that's the only one I've ever felt bad about. Would you say the multiple times I've sacked Tom Brady? Absolutely not. Would you say, you know, how I sat Eli Manning? He deserved it. Would you say like, you know, the nine or eight or nine times I've sat Cam Newton

when we were of the same draft class? Absolutely not. It is the best draft class ever to exist. And no, I didn't feel bad. But would you say, you know, maybe the 23 times I sat Matt Ryan over the career, which is the most between one defensive end ever between a defensive end and a quarterback.

For sure not. Do you remember all the sacks with Matt Ryan? Which one was your favorite? Some would say a four sack night on a Thanksgiving Thursday night game where I ate a turkey leg on their field. You know, closed out a two minute, like the last possession where

they sat. They never rise up, right? I think they were trying to pump in their crowd noise at that time, or maybe that was a little bit after. Some would say. Yeah, some would say. Some would say, allegedly proven. Since the season has ended, have you caught Tom Brady broadcasting at all?

Because we had Katie Nolan on just before you joined us and she said odd criticism that she could hear his teeth. What does that mean? You can hear someone's teeth when they talk, think Rex Ryan. Okay. Yeah, I thought he did a great job, you know, as he's only going to get better. So I think I focused on I was looking for error and he didn't show much this last weekend. Yeah. Cam, you've had 121 and a half sacks in your NFL career.

And I am wondering, is there a quarterback you have in sack that you're dying to sack, that it keeps you up at night? Yeah, I'll never get to sack Peyton Manning. That's just one of those ones. Like I was like, dang, how'd I fall off? Like I had him. And I, you know, I didn't get to play him at Indianapolis.

I don't think, I think Painter took over for that one year. And then he went over to Denver and they, I think they like made me play a three technique to nose, but in a lot like this year, didn't work out successfully for me. When I think about, yeah, when I think about the quarterbacks that I wanted to sack, sack Tom Brady, AKA sack number 99 and a half and 100. Oh, I'll never sack Drew Brees, you know?

So that's too, absolutely. What? Oh, I never sat Drew Brees, you know. Do you want to? Absolutely. What? I'll do it. I love hitting all my friends. That is my greatest happiness is plastering one of my friends, you know, from Shane Vareen, if I could ever catch Barb Jones on a, on a, on a slant route, Keenan on a, Keenan Allen on a bubble screen. If I can catch one of my friends,

we'll talk about it in the group chat. I need that. Walter Payton, man of the year, Cam Jordan with us, a man of great decency and generosity. Absolutely. It's a part of my mentorship program. You know, we went to Cal together, and then if I can hit you, then we'll talk about it,

and like, see where you can get better. It's like the thousands of young individuals that are eagerly waiting for a mentor because Old Spice recognizes transformative impact mentorship on their lives. That's what I'm trying to do too. Okay, you brought up Cal. I wanted to ask you if you were following any of the Cal sort of like resurgence this season, like the Cal-Gar-Rhythm and all of the fans getting really into AI generated shit posting. What was your thought on all of that?

Go Bears, first of all. We finally got both eligible, you know? So we're doing, I can't say we're doing things right. We're headed into a positive direction. Do you love the ACC? So we're doing things right, and we're headed into a positive direction. Cam George is with us again.

January is mentorship month. Visit oldspice.com slash school of swagger. It is a pleasure to watch you work, sir. You are a craftsman of the highest order. I say you're an immortal. Stu Gott says you need to have more than 121 sacks to be an immortal. I'm sorry, Kip.

So what's the number there? Are we thinking 125? We're both thinking 125, and I'll be there shortly. 125 is the number. You reach 125, which you will by game four next year, and you're there, okay? That's what I'm saying. 125, and then the, I think the only two

guys that have 125 sacks and aren't in the Hall of Fame is the Marcus Ware and the Sizzler, you know, Terrell Suggs. And they'll probably be in there in the next year or two. So then, again, after 125, Cam, I'm be looking for a Jackie. Can you explain to us before, yes you are gonna be looking for one of those, 20% of your sacks are all on Matt Ryan. Can you explain to me as a lifelong saint and a metaphorical one in all of the work that you do off of the field, can you explain to everybody listening to this,

where it is that you are on your legacy, like how it is that you want to be remembered having left this game. And all I want to be remembered as, as a member of the Saints is to be one of the greatest. And that's on and off the field. The accolades are phenomenal. The fact that I got to over a hundred sacks

and in my wildest dreams, I thought I'd get to like 30 or 40 and then I just had to dream again. And in my wildest dreams, I thought I'd get to like seven years of football. And I was like, I was like, I just got to make one pro bowl. Dan made six. I'm sitting at eight. In my wildest dreams, I've thought about like, man, if my kids could see me play and know that I'm that guy, that's that'll be all right.

You know, and I literally had my son jogging on the field with me towards the end of the season this year for warmups. I've lived out my wildest dreams and I'm just, I'm making new missions as I continue, which, you know, this idea of legacy is my proudest part. There's no one play that I can look at like I didn't give it my all. So off the field that's exactly how I live as well. Whether I'm at home or whether I'm in the

community I'm giving my all. So if I'm in the community now whether it's the backpack drives, it's the schools that I visit, it's the kids that I try and mentor, it's the scholarships that I'm trying to create. It goes hand in hand with my identity. And that's why it's so easy to partner up with brands like Old Spice because they have a mentorship program as well that you can learn more at www.oldspice.com backslash school of swagger.

January is mentorship month, oldspice.com slash school of swagger, articulate it as a voice for New Orleans. How much do you hate Atlanta? You can't articulate some things, some things you have to feel. And if you ever walk down the streets of New Orleans and ask anybody about a Falk can't,

you'd realize that they're falcons. That's an excellent dismount, sir. Thank you. Thank you. You and your giant hands can leave. You are an assassin. It is nice seeing you. You can indeed kill most people with those giant bare hands. Thank you for being on with us. Go grok with food and balloons.

Yes, go with balloons. Balloons, a sandwich. I'm sorry, grok. Hey, you're my dog, still, Go grok with food and balloons. Yes, go with balloons. Balloons, a sandwich. I'm sorry grok. Hey, you're my dog still bro. He gets it. Yeah. Good seeing you sir. Thank you for being on with us. We appreciate it.

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We don't have a lot of fireplaces down here, but I've had the premise of it. I wish I could, but it's out Florida. When it gets down to the 60s, we don't have a lot of fireplaces down here, but I've had the premise of it. I wish I could, but it's South Florida. When it gets down to the 60s, we're like, we're bundled up, but certainly no fireplaces. Still too warm for that. But we do have our football Sundays. And one thing that always makes football Sundays good, and I know you've had plenty of experience in your life with this, Miller time.

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Pick up these may apply. Don Lebatard. You have some hot takes today. Joe Chestnut nuts a fraud fire He calls Connor McDavid overrated before the show Yeah, no, I love it stoo guts Roy Let me explain it to you and not that you need to you know more about hockey and this is coming from a guy That's watched Connor play six times right if that

This is the down libertarLevatar Show with the StuGuts. I have some follow-up questions with Greg Cody on a Greg Cody Wednesday, and I'm told we have a Greg Cody Thursday in store as well. Chris Cody, you mentioned, and we bypassed it, that you are tired of your father's yammering dentist. God, yes, he was talking earlier about his dentist, and I had to switch dentists from that guy.

And I can only imagine how bad it was for you. He knew I was your son, and it was just dolphins talk out the ass. And I literally switched dentists. Did you really? Yes, because I was just like, too much. I'm like, I have the thing right off that's like, shh like And then he's just like asking me for two it takes yeah, so I was just like and it has to be worse for you He doesn't stop talking no

He's a talking of guy and he asks you direct questions when you're incapable of answer like her after the whole party Why does he do that? I don't think I don't know let's do that. He's not Concussion prone yeah, he gets a lot of caution okay, but I Bad to it takes two yes I'm just like I'm basically just like that's true whatever. He's saying. I'm like a school point I want to hear you discuss this with the dental equipment in your mouth It's like those like the gauze and then that suction thing. It's like close your mouth Did he ever take you to see his Hall of Fame? Oh boy. Yes, it's just his office, but yes

I've been back. No, I mean I mean the one underneath the one downstairs. No. Yeah, go on. Is that a secret basement? This guy. The dentist's dungeon? Downstairs. Wait he showed me an office. That's a horror movie. It was just an office. It was on the same level. Dentist's dungeon? What do you mean underneath? It's not a dungeon, it's a hall of fame. Wait, so he offered for you to see it and you followed them down into the basement? You can't put it on the pole, Juju. Do you follow your dentist into the dungeon? No, his office was on the second floor of a building. On the first floor, in what I think used to be a garage, he had transformed it into his own personal hall of fame.

Actually an interesting guy, he played handball all his life, he was a very accomplished handball player. I get why this is your dentist. Yeah, and he was an original fan of the NBA when it was invented in 1946, whatever that was, so he had all these kind of signed Bob Cousy basketballs, all kind of stuff. He's an interesting dude He just retired For you know a few years ago

So what happens to the hall? Are you wind? Are you winded from talking? No Jessica asked me a question in the middle of this while we were talking and it was a great question. Put it on the poll, Juju. Do you want your dentist to be an accomplished hand baller? I mean, he's a handball player. I went to an oral surgeon once who was a former Notre Dame offensive lineman who did irreparable

damage to my gums. He was very rough with his hands. Oh no. Massive very rough with his hands. Oh no. Massive hands I would think. Yeah. He ripped those wisdom teeth out of my skull. Right. I understand what you're asking here Dan. If you're a dentist you shouldn't put your hands in harm's way. No I'm not even asking that. I'm not asking it. Jessica's making the point just simply. They're the money makers. Do you want your dentist to be someone whose hands are

hearted by the calloused excellence of having to slam handballs all day? I would want those hands to be gentle protected and pristine. I don't want that. Like a saxophone player. No I want calloused hands. Really? Yeah. I want hands that have lived. Yes, muscular calloused hands. Hands that can get bit by accident and they'll survive. I want hands that have lived. Yeah, right. Muscular, callous hands. Hands that can get bit by accident and they'll survive. I want an artist. I want someone who can draw well. An accomplished pianist. He's pulling teeth. He's not, you know, writing a memoir or painting a Renoir. I have to get to a couple of things here that I have not gotten to today and I will tell you again that the Greg Cody Show featuring Greg Cody is filled with magical content much of it on purpose

and laughing and until you cough is universally funny but so is Greg Cody chasing out of his yard an iguana that he describes as an iguana the size of a giant iguana. Right. What's so weird about that? I can see it. You're a writer and you said you were chasing an iguana the size of a giant iguana. Right. I mean, look, iguanas are all over the place in South Florida.

We got iguanas out the ass. And so. Again without the ass. Lucentus is right though. And so some of the iguanas are small. Right. They look like lizards almost. Right.

You know. Like a scat back. Yeah. This was an iguana that looked like a dinosaur. Eckler. It looked like a dinosaur. Right, that would have been a funnier analogy to use on the show.

With tail, it was about, I would say four to five feet right like almost like Humans wingspan so how'd the chase go well I human I picked up a I Picked up a golf club in old persimmons wood that Paul Frankie had given me I was looking up Paul Frankie's name in my notes because I wanted to big up bring up the golf club of Paul Frank What did I do? 60 what's Paul Frank? Yeah, what's Paul? All right P. He yeah, he passed away. He bequeathed me his clubs We played golf a couple of times and You know he like a lot of people in their 90s. He hit it straight, but only about 50 yards

I put it on the pole Please juju does the guy in his 90s hit it straight, but only about 50 yards. That was a good driver's ride. Put it on the poll, please, Juju. Does the guy in his 90s hit it straight, but only about 50 yards? Short and straight, and then he gets a bogey on every line. Yes, yes. I want all of you to visualize, Chris Cote, I know you're mortified by this, your father chasing a dinosaur

through his swamp land of a backyard with a golf club from the 1960s. Paul Frankie's. Paul Frankie's. How'd you befriend Paul Frankie since he was so much older? Couldn't be a less interesting story. Yes, thank you Chris, I appreciate you avoiding it.

I'll be the judge of this. It's precisely the reason Billy asked. My wife and Barbara are lifelong friends. Before the show, Cody, I came in, I came in Cody before the show, that is a giant iguana. That's from my backyard. That's what he said. That's my video from my backyard, that's what he said. That's my video

Look at the one on the on the camera on the video right now Yeah, that looks a little bigger than mine. Barbara Frankie? I don't have the perspective. Yeah, that looks a little bigger than mine. I wanted, again, Billy, to talk about what it is that I walked into today. What's that? Not elaborations involving Paul Frankie. Well, Barbara. Barbara is still in our orbit. She's still kicking. Still with us?

Oh, that's great. Why didn't Barbara get the clubs? Right. She's not a golfer. Are you sure Paul gave you the clubs? Are you certain? Yeah. Yeah, I'll tell you how, you're a golfer, so you would know what I'm talking about.

Yeah. This is a long time ago, right, when drivers were really small. Yeah. The Persimmons Wood driver that I chased the iguana with, the head of the driver was about that big. Wow. That big really helps on a podcast. Are you gonna beat the iguana with, the head of the driver was about that big. Wow. That big really helps on a podcast. Are you going to peak the iguana with it?

What are you going to do with it? It's like to give the audience an example, it's like a hybrid face is what you're saying. Yeah, exactly. Is this the barber that's married to Jimmy? Yes. Really? Yeah. You know Jimmy?

I mean, I didn't think so, but we may have crossed paths. I prodded the iguana. I would never club an iguana. The driver head is the size of like a small driver head. Well, he tried to make that joke poorly in a window that was small and gave up on it halfway through. Is this the Barbara and Jimmy? OK, that's my iguana. It's not even that big.

It's big. Let me see. You don't have any perspective. The other one we just showed was twice as Yeah, is this is the Barbara and Jimmy that have Jennifer as a daughter no, how would you know that Jenny Billy you can't try. It's a good guess. It's a good guess. You can't try is it so His was good. I'm not gonna It's already an invasion of their privacy What's the dentist name? I'm not gonna, it's already an invasion of their privacy. What's the dentist's name?

I'm gonna Google hand baller dentist. Did we get to the bottom of the cremation with the ash and a bunch of teeth on top with an eyeball and a toenail? Yeah, they grind it. Yeah, they grind. Did we get accurate information of what an urn has in it? You telling me that the urn has teeth in it?

It's all powder by the time it gets to the urn. I don't wanna urn. So they do the cremation. I don't wanna urn has teeth in it? It's all powder by the time it gets to the urn. I don't want to urn. So they do the cremation. I don't want to urn. That's right. I heard Pablo's episode tomorrow is all about people spreading ashes at sports events. And everyone's going to think we did some great synergy there.

I didn't know. Total coincidence. I want to play some sound for you guys of both Nick Saban and Stephen A Smith. Which one do you choose here? Because Stephen A Smith is doing something that Charles Barkley is doing that a lot of people are doing where they're hating on the All-Star game and basketball in a way that makes it feel like they are against the product in a way that's super strong and so who would you prefer Stephen A Smith or Nick Saban because Nick Saban had a regret I was not expecting when he was talking about his regrets. Nick Saban. Okay that's too bad because we've got Stephen A Smith queued up in the preview

there that was right in front of you so here's why'd you give me the choice here's Stephen A Smith. I wouldn't give a damn if the NBA canceled the all-star weekend festivities. That's that bad. And these play in these players it's unconscionable and I don't give a damn how they feel about it, I mean I got a lot of love for a lot of players, I'm not talking about all I'm not talking about most but some of them should be ashamed of that

themselves with how they have allowed this event to be punished. They ruined it. Shannon Sharp, they ruined it. They ruined it. Shannon Sharp, do you know that Jalen Brown participating last year in the Slam Dunk contest was the first All-Star to participate in the S slam dunk contest since DeAndre Jordan in 2017. Michael Jordan did it three times. Kobe Bryant did it. Vince Carter did it. Tracy McGrady did it, okay?

And your man, your goat, LeBron James never has. He said he had nothing to prove. It wasn't about that. It was about carrying on the tradition. I called Adam Silver. I called some of his lieutenants. I'm like, why? Why are we wasting our time?

I'm telling ESPN, I get paid to cover the sport and I don't want to go. I'm so disgusted with All-Star weekend because of what they've done. And it's no fault of the league. Adam Silver is a great commissioner and a great dude and a great dude. It's the players. Adam Silver is guilty for being nice and caring about the players and caring about

appeasing them because he wants them happy and he wants to be a great partner. And they've basically given him the proverbial finger and that's the whole All-Star weekend. Stugarts, I do think it's wildly interesting that at a time the NBA is struggling to progress where ratings are involved that you have so many voices who love basketball sound like they don't love basketball. When Barkley's saying he's going to boycott the All-Star game because it's rat-infested San Francisco and these are people who really do love basketball,

but the favorite part of that for me is Stephen A. Smith really does call the league office to complain about things he doesn't like personally. I'm pretty certain he told that story just to let everyone know he called Adam Silver. He also said in that piece, we didn't even run it, that we edited some of this out, that he called the league office to tell them

how much he objects to what happened to their All-Star game. I just love a receptionist picking up the phone. Somebody picking up the phone. Adam Silver's office like and then all of a sudden it's just Stephen A Smith yelling about how he doesn't want to go to the All-Star game. I mean, that's what you use the power for. And he's also not wrong that that's where we've gotten

with the All-Star game. It's not something that matters anymore, but I think it's a byproduct more of just every, the times that we're in, StuGOT, keeping the attention levels of everybody, you have to care, you have to try, you can't take our attention levels for granted by giving us a product that stinks.

I'm not certain I care about the old All-Star game. So like for me, I could do, if all the sports decided, hey, you know what? No more All-Star games, no more All-Star break, everyone take a couple of days off to a week off, I'd be good with that because I'm not a fan of it anyway. Even in its oldest form, I was never a fan of the Major League Baseball All-Star Game, or the NBA All-Star Game. I liked the dunk contest, but that was different. And Stephen A. is right.

It is different when it's Jordan and Dominique, as opposed to guys you've never heard of. Stephen A. is right about that. And another point I would make is, the three-point contest used to be interesting when everybody wasn't making 10 three-points a game. Correct, right. You had Carl Anthony Towns win a couple of years ago.

Yeah. It was like the most successful three point thing they've ever done though, with Sabrina and Steph. So they have innovated. That was a novelty. That was. Oh, but we just love complaining so much. I mean, we will complain about anything. Like it's fun complaining. I mean, the dunk contest is worthy of complaining, Dan, it is. In its heyday it was the greatest thing on the sports calendar. But I will also say that shows that ostensibly love sports, that love to complain about sports more than they love sports, is a place that media members graduate to in their 40s and 50s and 60s that not only

dampens intellectual curiosity, but becomes formed as you sit on the rocking chair, just bitching about entertainment. Like, I used to be more entertained by this, is like the curmudgeon's lament, and I'm telling you, you have important voices doing this to the league, like voices that are meant to be, they let go of Jeff Van Gundy, because he was complaining, Jeff Van Gundy was great for 20 years and

they didn't want negativity as the accent and you got Stephen A Smith and Charles Barkley the preeminent voices calling Adam Silver no offense loved the access to you your game sucks it's not your fault your game sucks you're a great leader you've led this the way you lead it sucks you're too nice like it's an amazing thing to listen to no you're right dan no one loves to complain more than people that get paid to cover sports oh this tsa line is too long oh i'm too important to wait behind all these common folk all these fans that spent their own money to travel for this game that i got to go to for free I'm just gonna cut the whole line because I'm so important and I deserve to cut everyone.

I'm blank. Not gonna tell you. Marty Smith. ["Age of the Wild"] Was it Marty? No. That's right, it's time for Against the Spread! And it is presented by DraftKings.

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What just happened there? The Panthers on TNT this year on the road, two and oh, tonight on TNT on the road. Make it three and oh. Panthers plus one and a half. Against the Reds! Jess, bring us home. Bills plus one and a half.

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