The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 2: Iffen He Gets Plagarized...

Episode Date: March 6, 2025

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You're listening to Giraffe King's Network. This is the Dan LeBattor Show with the Stoogats Podcast. Turn your mics on so we can enjoy some pre-segment banter. How's everyone doing today? I don't know if we're ready to have the conversation. DK Metcalf's really athletic, but not that good. How's everyone doing today? I don't know if we're ready to have the conversation DK McCuff's really athletic but not that good That's a different sold segment of you're not ready for this conversation. Sorry Like very good, but he's not like

He's not amazing. He's fast. He's big and JSN emerge. He's like Dan eat him anymore No, yeah big fast and strong. Yeah. Yeah National legend? What does DK stand for? Drash Kings. That's true. The crown is yours. It should be, he should be sponsored by Burger King. DK, have it your, you should change his name to BK Metcalf. There it is. It's actually his first name, Dekaylin. So it's like D-E then K. So that's where the D-K comes from. You don't think we're ready to have the conversation about whether D-K Metcalf should do more with that body? That body was made to play wide receiver. He came into the league, we were all made aware of his career from Oklahoma State at the same time

because of physically he walked into Pete Carroll's office and he was shirtless and so we all thought that that receiver type, the new evolution of receiver should dominate the league. He's been great though has he not? Like are we not giving him great? I think DK Metcalf has done really well. He's a great wide receiver. I don't think it's because of his body. I think you're objectifying an NFL wide receiver and I'm not gonna stand for it. I feel like a piece of meat sitting here

as you talk about wide receivers. They're more than just their body, Dan. You went to Ole Miss, by the way. I didn't wanna come and just jump on that. I wasn't sure if we were gonna go there. Wide receiver room was AJ Brown and DK Medcalf. That's crazy. However, they were better. They. I wasn't sure if we were gonna go. Wide receiver room was AJ Brown, DK McCann. That's crazy. However, they were better.

They were better in the NFL than they were in college. That's the real travesty. I did, I actually confused him, honest to God, with a guy whose literal last name was Blackman. From Oklahoma State. Justin Blackman? He was good for a while. One of the great John Brinkus sports science episodes.

Sports science, man. He had the catch radius of a two-door, two-car garage. Oh, yeah? What's Brinkus up to? He's actually broadcasting a highlight. He has his own network. Yeah, Brink TV. Yeah, he has his own network.

DK Metcalf as a number one, because you guys were arguing with me whether Tyler Lockett was ever a number one or not. Are we not in agreement that if we're trying to select from the last 10 years of wide receiver from somebody and the choices between Lockett or DK Metcalfe, we can have 10 years of their career? Who are you choosing? Lockett. Lockett in.

Lock me in. Legendary status. That's an NFL legend. I want to be a legend. Sorry, Dan. I wanna be a legend. Sorry, Dan. I wanna be remembered. And also just projecting, DK's not gonna have the longevity that Tyler Lockett had.

Big bodied wide receivers, they come crashing to the ground carrying their own weight. The way that Roy Williams just went from one day to the next, like big body receivers, this happens. Yeah, I mean, DK Metcalf is a specimen. Height, weight, speed, obviously, strength, a part of that. And if he gets with a quarterback, like if he does go to a contender with one of these quarterback,

who can take that ability to the next level, you'll probably see a career year from D.K. Metcalf. A specie man, some might say. Chris Cody has announced that he is out on JJ Reddick. No, we don't remember that one. I don't I don't know why he's out on JJ Reddick. I just think that I liked him. When he was doing his podcast, I would see the clips

and I would be like, oh, he seems likable. And now he just seems like he's reverted to like Duke JJ Reddick. He's so condescending now to the media. It's just every single clip now that I see, I have the opposite reaction of just like, ooh, that's unlikable. And I know he's probably trying to do that.

He's trying to distance himself. I'm not a media man, I'm a coach, I'm a serious coach. But it's just, every single clip I see is unlikable. Probably what Tony's gonna do when he gets over to the U. I would never flip up, come on. Stay true. You know what makes him more obnoxious? Is that most coaches who are like, oh, media.

Like, they're coaches, right? But JJ does the, oh media, I did your job way better. You guys are so terrible at doing that. I literally know what your job is, because I did it. He was pretty good at it though. Right? But he was likable then, I don't know,

it's just maybe that's the job. Maybe it's me, maybe it's not him. But is he telling that to beat writers? But you know what this is, right? This is the true JJ Reddick, right? Like one of my favorite game ops decisions in the history of all sports was the Wizards years ago. This is, JJ Reddick is in the league,

but in games that the Wizards aren't playing against the JJ Reddick team, when the opposing team was at the free throw line, they would put a picture of JJ Reddick up on the Jumbotron and the crowd would instantly start booing because it's a Maryland stronghold and everybody hates JJ Reddick. Now this is earlier in his career

because after he left Orlando, I think people kind of forgot how hated JJ Reddick was and only for it to come back up now. The thing, Dan, that made me laugh, I wanna say we talked about this, but maybe we didn't. Where Michael Porter Jr. interviewed JJ Reddick on his podcast, and he asked him, wait, so were you ranked in high school?

And JJ Reddick says, well, I mean, I was McDonald's All-American MVP. Does that count, right? But Anita Fish big? Anybody get that reference out here? I mean, I guess. He's just still recruiting there are trophy fish I don't

Know we're trying to connect with you. I mean File I really don't understand what Chris Cody is doing It seems to me that Chris Cody is taking just that podcast experience and erasing the rest of who JJ Reddick has been the entirety Of his life, which is how does JJ Reddick get to 14 points a game in that particular league? Being an asshole on purpose, fighting everyone, doesn't care who dislikes him, uncommonly brave at sort of leaning into,

do not care how much you dislike me, I'm gonna get into your league and I'm going to make millions of dollars. Also good at shooting. Yeah, that helps. Yeah, like being an all-time great shooter probably. Being an all-time great shooter. Greatest shooter in college history probably. And that was a ridiculous question from Michael Porter Jr. Also good at shooting. Yeah, that helps. Yeah, like being an all-time great shooter probably. Being an all-time great shooter. Greatest shooter in college history probably.

And that was a ridiculous question from Michael Porter Jr. if he was ranked. That is- Dog! He was- That's a ridiculous question. I get it. Michael Porter Jr. was like eight when JJ Redding was a dude. But it's like, you gotta know, 99.9% of the players in the NBA, you gotta know, they were

awesome in high school too. That's a bad question. Then there's levels to it it's not like hey I was highly ranked but I didn't make the All-American game it was like no no I was him that was nobody was better than I was. I went to Duke when Duke was Duke. I was the best player at Duke. ACC went to Duke every year. League of the Beaver reruns. National Championship, final fours, right? Again, McDonald's all over, lottery pick in the NBA. But this doesn't happen for the guy that kind of like was, oh, I had a growth spurt. But in the history of Duke though,

there have only been two guys who have actually had all of that and embraced, I don't care that you hate me, eat also. It's him and Leightner on, I'll invite the hate and I'll be better than your hate and I'll welcome it and I like The idea that JJ Reddick changed Chris Cody's mind on who he is because he did a podcast for a couple Likeable for a couple years that we forget he got himself into the media and he was there for long enough And look there's people online trying to convince me that like Paul George was better than Dwayne Wade at their peaks. Everyone forgets everything

because of what's happening right now. So Reddit goes and does a podcast for a couple of years, he's jovial and likable, and he does a good job on first take. And every young person watching basketball might not remember. I think he was with June Corleone, Orlando Magic. He just hit it.

It was those first take appearances where he would dunk dunk on Stephen a Smith because no one can't that's where I became that's where I started by the way Chris what kind of skill set does it take to dunk on Steve is it nice humble well pardon me he's mr. Smith but I believe you might be mistaken or is it the asshole and but I say this is someone I like JJ ready I'm people who are assholes I like him no no no I didn't, people who are assholes. I like him. No, no, no, I didn't.

What he did to Mad Dog was unfair and unreasonable and everybody knows it, okay? But he was being an asshole in a room full of assholes. Mad Dog's an asshole. Come on now. Look, like I love JJ Reddick, we could love Mad Dog and also admit. Love Mad Dog.

He's an asshole. I don't understand what you guys are doing in the history of sports Duke arrogance and the face of it It's one of the most hateable things there are in the history of sports and on that Mount Rushmore There ain't four there are two. I'll give it a name. It's Grayson Allen Allen forgive me Grayson Allen For your Nile and another one although he's mellowed out

now that he's head coach, but John Shire was an asshole too. I like him. Nobody liked John Shire in college, man. That dude was a jerk. I like him. You know what, Dan's right, this is on me. This is my fault. You're out on-

JJ hasn't changed, I've changed. You've changed. Well, but it's not just that though, hold on a second. So now I'm- I'm sorry, Dan. I give you the whole history of JJ Redic and now I add to it first time coach cuts the line Hey here LeBron and Luca as your protege. You think that's gonna feed the arrogance a little bit, dude Let me tell you something when they when they beat the Nuggets like a couple weeks ago

And he was like we circled this game on the calendar I said, oh no, because here's the most dangerous part of any coach's timeline is when you fall in love with your own bullshit, right? You can bullshit those guys in the locker room as much as you want, as much as you need. When you talk to everybody else, hey man, this game, was this a big game?

You say, that was another game on the schedule. Obviously they're a really good team, but you know, and we kind of looked at it as a little bit of a measure of stick, but look, there's a lot of season left and I'm sure we're gonna see more of them probably see them down the line and they'll have changed will have changed their answers you give you can't be like this was our Super Bowl we wanted I'm like dog it was before like the All-Star break I think. It was a little just a little bit too

much of I'm I'm high on my own supply, you know? Chris, tell me this. What coach's disposition do you like in the media? Like when they're talk to the media? Missoula. I love it. Coach Missoula. He's so annoying with the media, he just is like, oh, that didn't matter. That game didn't matter.

Isn't that just another form of asshole? That was gonna say it. It's the same thing. It's the other side of the spectrum. The other side, where he's not being, I mean, I guess he is being arrogant. No, he's absolutely being arrogant. Absolutely being arrogant. That is arrogant.

He was asked how does it feel to be in a, like if not the first one of the few times in NBA history of finals where both head coaches are black and his answer was, I wonder how many of them were Christian. I'm like, buddy. Good question, I'm curious. Yeah, I'll get an answer for you. Almost all of them.

We could probably. Almost all of them. We could probably. Almost all of them. We could have answered at least. Almost all of them. You would have gotten this question answered. That's it. I gotta go back to like Red, our back to get to like,

okay, maybe a couple of them are Jewish. I like them. He's, like he's the asshole I really don't enjoy because. We're playing different games, you and I. He's flippin', man. No, I. You don't like flippin' asshole. I don't like flippin' asshole, I don't like flippin' asshole man.

Listen, I also think that for JJ Reddick, who is to Dan's point the head coach of the Los Angeles Lakers on a team with LeBron James and Luca Donchit. Spoiled. You have to get up there and not treat media a certain way, but you gotta exude a certain confidence in every room to be able to go in that room and get them to be like, hey I gotta respect this guy. I gotta listen to this guy

He knows what he's talking about and so that is a piece of it That may be a little different than the media game and for that reason I like them I mean being a media member being a podcaster Obviously the last thing that JJ reddick did was podcasting If you were given the keys to a kingdom in an NBA setting and being the head coach, how would you be? Would you be the flippin' asshole that you hate? Would you morph into something different? I'd be JJ Reddick.

So you would be an asshole too? Absolutely, because a couple things. First of all, what he said, like you gotta be able to, especially in that town, right? Frank Vogel won a championship with the Lakers and they got his ass up out of here. Paul West had won a championship with the Lakers and they got his ass up out here. Paul Westhead won a championship with the Lakers, they got his ass up out of there.

You have to have some sort of gravitas when you walk in the room, regardless of who you're coaching, but especially when you're coaching those kind of guys, right, number one. Number two, I don't know if you've noticed, Tony, I'm a bit of an asshole. Again, like JJ Reddick, like this is not,

like that's who I am. So for me to be nice and kind and like, oh no, it was a good, I can't do the dock rivers. That's a very handsome question you just asked me or whatever. I can't do that stuff where everyone's laughing. I'm going to be like a little sarcastic jerk, especially if I hear a question that has either been answered before or a question that is especially lazy or ill-constructed or whatever, because I'm going to have the same judgments that I'm sure JJ Reddick has. That's why I'm like, I'm not mad at it,

I'm just like pointing it out that, hey man, you might be getting a little high on your own supply. Larry Brown, recent Jew. There you go. Found it. Define recent. That is a while ago.

Decentre? I was in high school. He just got bar mitzvahed. Chris Cody, can you explain to me after. The red foods? Oh finally Dan. We'll get to that another day. Oh my goodness.

I do wanna get to that. Red foods are killing us by the way. I do wanna get to your. R, thank you. It's a good impersonation. The limited. Damn good. Limited. I thought it was a sound bite.

Yes, Chris, okay fine. why are you out on Red Food? Whoa! Yes, we got there. I mean we can all agree that cranberries are overrated, right? No way. All right, I'm just gonna do the whole take. All right, look, cranberries.

There are so many things that I can point to where the red version of that food is the inferior version of that food. Ooh, I don't know. Red potatoes, the worst of the potatoes. No, I like them. Put it on the poll at Levitard Show. Are the red potatoes the worst of the potatoes?

I mean, there's the peppers, the red pepper. I prefer the yellow, I prefer the orange. Oh, you're talking about the bell pepper? Get kidney beans out of here. No, kidney beans are wack, yeah, you're right. The red apple, inferior to the green apple. The worst apple, it's the worst apple. Red grapes.

Hold on, slow it down. Put it on the poll. Is the red apple inferior to the green apple. It's the worst apple red grapes. Hold on slow it down Put it on the pole is the red apple inferior to the green apple the red grapes red onion I could go on for day one. Oh and a burger you put some red onion in there sweet I got one for you and a burger Fanta red Fanta worse. Don't you do worse flavor? No, it's flavor best flavor best flavor by far red tomato like it I like it taco bells coming out with a midnight flavor, Baja Midnight. But there's just so many red foods that are overrated.

That's the fattest thing you know. Cherries. Yeah, hold on. Not the Cajun. You want a bat? They are. Dan definitely just read a hype beast post about Taco Bell's new Baja Blast flavor.

Whoever the sham charade of fast food, Dan has him on alert. Fat food. Oh, look what just came up. A fat food update. But what is that? What does that even mean? Baja midnight.

Like, that sounds like that's purple poison. That's a battery acid. That's only something that people who are drunk at two o'clock in the morning are gonna have. I can't believe Chris doesn't like the cranberries, man. What about Zombie? That was a great song. the cranberries, man. What about Zombie? That was a great song. Cranberries, gross, the radish, get that out of my salad.

I'm just saying, there's one red food that I will say. What have you ever eaten a radish? In a salad. I'm always just like, what is this? Starburst. I don't know, I kind of feel like it's all in your head, man. What's the best Starburst? Red.

No, easily. I'm a pink or an orange guy. That's just me. Put it on the poll, Starburst, best Starburst? Red. No. Easily. I'm a pink or an orange guy. That's just me. Put it on the poll. Starburst, best Starburst. Red, pink, orange. Yellow. Yellow, put up those four. Red velvet cake.

Red velvet, see, all right, now you're kinda talking my language. I do like the little red. Massive black hole. I would say the only red food that I will say, I can't say a negative thing about, watermelon is delightful. Oh, watermelon. I can't say a negative thing about watermelon is delightful Oh watermelon, I won't say a bad word about watermelon

Watermelon is more pink Isn't it green? Like the inside is It's like green And also there's not like an alternative We're all pink on the inside I can't eat red velvet cake Because if I do it gives I'm not red velvet it's just chocolate cake dye

Exactly but the dye makes me make smells and then they linger. I mean, they have to linger? You agree with me. I'm just saying of all, like everything I did here, it's just the inferior version, the red version. I'm just out on red foods. Was Braun lactose?

Is that why they took the ice cream away? Ooh. On a plane? Maybe he was level linger. Then that would make sense. I'm asking you, Dan. I feel like you have this information. It would make sense.

Glad I got that off my chest the nutritionist the nutrition The nutritionist took the ice cream off of the plane. It was not Pat Riley That's all I'm so Pat Riley said but it's not me. It's my family's basically what he said. How does a nutritionist Feel so JJ reddick-like confidence to say, I'm taking something away from LeBron James? I don't know the answer to that question.

He or she should have been fired. Well, the ice cream returned the next day. I don't know if the nutritionist did or didn't, but the ice cream did return when LeBron James was arrested. The plum also overrated. Think about the butterfly effect of that though. That alone should have gotten that nutritionist fire because A, it's attributed to Pat Riley,

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Stugats. I ain't cheatin'. This is the Don Lebatard red. I thought the purple. Close enough for this conversation. So you don't like pepperonis Chris? I'm colorblind. Oh pepperonis. Pepperonis are obviously red. Have we talked about that? No. We have not talked about that. I'm not completely colorblind, but I'm pretty colorblind. How does it affect your. Pepperonis are obviously red. Have we talked about that? No. We have not talked about that. I'm not completely colorblind, but I'm pretty colorblind. How does it affect your life?

Pinks and reds are really tough. One in 12 men are colorblind. Really? My kids, they crush me for it, man, because I'm always like, this matches in no day. You're wearing green and brown, and I'm like, oh, okay, sorry. If I couldn't see colors, man, I'd be dying inside. Yeah, that's because you're a racist. Put it on the poll at Labattar Show,

are we all painted inside? I'm free to decide. And what other effects are there to being colorblind? What other mistakes do you make? I mean, it's mostly just clothes situation, yeah. And I also feel like I walk around with a little more dull version of life. Like I feel like everyone else

sees a lot more vibrant colors than I do. It kind of always feels like. I thought that was depression. You ever get humans wrong? I might also be just depressed. You might be clinically depressed. But it's kind of like, it feels like

a non-color corrected film, always to me. So, let me name some colors. Can you see chocolate brown? Yes. Can you see chocolate brown? Yes. Can you see electric blue? Don't know what that is. Wow, he doesn't know what electric blue is, wow. Like what color are the three letters DLS behind Dan?

Yeah, that's, first one is, I'm gonna say yellow. I'm gonna say it. I would say blue and red. You just know that those are, like, I just know, like my version of yellow is just different from your version of yellow. I wanna be in your eyes for like five orange is in yellows That is a beautiful love song You not do not appreciate like a paint on car better make the Quavo Club

The club is very different Crows producing the show today. The Quavo Club is much different than what we do on private. That's the club I'm going to. I'm sorry. We're gonna have Quavo at the Quavo Club. Yeah, no, we're not drinking. At the Quavo Club, we're drinking Hennessy. Yesterday on the show, a lot of people were really touched by Tony Reale and the story of Around the Horn. No matter what you think of the show, I really did feel like we gave Tony Reali the right sendoff, which is the

applause that you would give at a craps table after a 23-year roll, where somebody has just rolled for 23 years and then you start applauding. That's what heaven is. I will sign up for that right now and you can send me to the fiery depths of hell afterwards. But if you give me a 23 year poll at a crab stable where it's hot, that is a peak feeling. I have never felt better in my entire life than when I went on a heater at a crab stable.

Doing that for 23 years? Unreal. Let's put it on the poll. Is there any better feeling in the world than a 23 year heater at a craps table? I hope virtual reality gets strong enough that I can just stay alive inside the Oculus Rift, playing at a craps table and always winning. This is heaven.

They have that for sure. Right now, today, you could go play in a craps table and always winning. This is heaven. They have that for sure. Right now, today, you could go play in a craps table in VR and fill that heater for as long as you want. Wow. That's it. What am I doing here? I should be doing that. Absolutely.

I'm guessing though that at some point you would become numb and it would become a special kind of solitary confinement to just win money for that long. No, you can mix in a loss. And then everyone at the table, we still got this, go roll, go roll, it comes right back to you. Everyone defers and goes right back to you.

Oh my God, yo 11. What if you had to stay in there the 23 years? You can start it, but you cannot stop it until after 23 years. Oh, TSL over here. Kilo, soda, lime, you know the deal. One of the worst feelings in the world, and I hope Mike doesn't tell any private stories here,

is being in the middle of a craps role and having to go to the bathroom. I'm not telling that story. Wait, you had a crap role during the craps role? I'm not doing it, Dan can reveal it. Dan? I'm not doing it. I'm not doing it. Dan can reveal it. Dan? I'm not doing it. Time to be a storyteller.

What happened to that edit in the middle of the new father observations, Tony? What happened? Labs. Labs, yeah. Speaking of labs. I haven't forgotten about it. Labs.

Labs. Are you trying to get a dog? What is it? Speaking of labs. Or is this a blood lab? Chris Cody, the place I was headed with that around the horn story is that you were telling me yesterday something. You came in, I don't know how it is that the audience felt about this, but Tony Reali is somebody who's a very

special person to us for a number of different reasons and I loved his grace in the moment, but I was super bummed out not really understanding why a 23 year show of great success was going off of the air and the thing that I wanted to ask you was you began to tell me something about Woody Page one of the original members of Around the Horn yesterday but I didn't know what it is that you were saying or why it is that you were talking about Woody Page. I saw in a group chat pop up a link to an article that had the headline, Woody Page Repeats Denial That He Plagiarized Dan Lebatard in the 90s. Whoa!

And I had never heard of that. So I pose it to you. He plagiarized. Well, but wait a minute. Where is this? Where did this appear? That's been on the internet. Yeah. He's been called Woody Plage since I've known him because of that. Yeah, it's not just you. There's articles that share your story, because you revealed it on the air before on our show.

And then it occasionally gets brought up, and your name gets invoked as one of the ones. What? You know why it's a big story, Dan? Because he plagiarized off of a legend. Regional legend trying to plagiarize off a national legend. But why was it making a resurrection? Like where did it appear on a Reddit forum?

It appeared in my group chat, it's just a link to an article that I could click on that's just kind of saying this, because it's been a thing that he's been accused of. He's denied it, so let's be fair to him here. No, we don't need to be fair to him, he absolutely did it. Oh yeah. Absolutely, it was't need to be fair to him. He absolutely did it. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Absolutely.

I was offensive. It was wildly offensive. He added a little detail that made it different. What did he plagiarize? OK, I'm going to tell you what he plagiarized. I'm going to tell you the whole story. I don't even know Woody Page as a journalist. He's the guy in the round the horn with the sign.

I know who he is. And I love the sign. And I'm like, that old guy is funny. Yeah. Ha ha ha. I feel like I'm like, that old guy is funny. Yeah. I feel like I'm getting sentailed. Taylor's under there. Watch out.

So Mike Ryan sent it in the group chat, but it was an article about what, who's written the article? Someone put in like Woody Page, like he put out a tweet, sorry, to all the frats out there that take a shot every time I screw up, something to that effect. And then I was just reminding people, I'm like, this is out there on the internet. I report, you decide.

All right, so, but I'm the shitster. Hold on. So let's hear this thing. I didn't know he was gonna go to air with it. I was just telling my friends, hey, did you know this about what he pitched? Was it an article? Yeah, yeah, no, I linked the articles.

I linked a couple of them. What's the source of the article? All right, so I'll tell you the story. Tell me the story. Because I'm guessing that Andrew and Amin are gonna be more offended by a different part of the story not not the Plagiarizing part of the story. I think they're gonna be bothered more by the second part of this story And you've and you sing without me and Amin so that makes me feel like it's going in a certain direction This is the direction it's going in so the San san francisco forty niners are playing in the super bowl ricky jackson is one of their famous players ricky jackson's family lives in pohokey are one of the most uh... impoverished places that you

will find anywhere in the united states a couple of days before the super bowl i'd go to his family's house in pohokey and i write something about that all of those details appear in a Woody Page story several days later as if he wrote the story accompanied by quotes that are super suspicious because they are offensively in black dialect in a way that would be like really bad.

Imagine Quentin Tarantino doing an interview on B&T. Oh no. Wow. I had to do it though. I don't know. Writing in black scent is crazy. What year is this? I'm gonna say 99. So nobody even gave a damn at that time. Repeated denials from Woody Page. No, but I mean it's easy enough to look up. Like he got into a lot of trouble and stuff because he was a star columnist in Denver and you know problems came his way. Like it's not, I don't, it's not so pre-internet that you cannot find it

anywhere, it'd be easy enough to find. It was 1995, that was 30 years ago. Geez. And the article that Mike linked to was from westward.com in 2011. This is not the first time Dan has revealed this on the air. It's just been a good 14 years. They actually have a copy of Dan's email response

to someone who asked about this, in which he just detailed everything he just said on the air. Oh, okay, nothing added there? So he's a writer. Story adds up. Did he change the actual quotes that you had in your article, put it into Blackscent, and then put it in his article?

As I recall, they were just quotes I didn't recognize from a story in a book. Do you wanna hear your email from 2009? Let's read it. That explains the details of this, Dan? Proofread that, 09 was different. Different Dan? Yeah.

Give me a minute. Dan was running around saying some wild shit in 09. No, but I'm like you, Hawk, I'm thinking, wait a second, did he, like, if the dude said originally, yeah, and that's why I had to come back and do it. And Woody Page's version said, yeah, and that's why. That's why I did that shit. With all these.

Like what, Woody Page? As I recall, it's even worse than that. I'm pretty sure it was somebody saying something along the lines of Ricky Jackson could get all the fish, free bait he wants in our town because it was just like something that was like just made up. What you have in your email is you responded to someone who asked you in September of 2009, is Woody Page a big goofball when he isn't on Around the Horn or is it just an act for

TV? You answered, no he's that. His career has kind of amazed me. My friends call him Woody Plage. Pre-internet during a Super Bowl in Miami, I went to Ricky Jackson's Pahokee home, wrote scene, described town, had a scene in which Ricky was coming home

with a big check for his family. A few days later, Page writes the same column, but he never went to the home, and he just made up some bait shop and gave some black guy a quote in ridiculous black dialect. This was during Denver News Wars. The other Denver paper called him out on it, even wrote a letter in which both columns were published.

I think. I wonder what the quote was. Now I need to find this quote. I need to see how that- Now we gotta do it. Now we gotta find the quote. Okay, Ricky Jackson, Woody Page. It was something about, as I recall,

God, 30 years is a long time, but as I recall, it was something about Ricky Jackson being such a local celebrity that he could have all the free Bait that he wanted when he returned back to town in the event that he wanted to fish Chris Why are you first of all? Chris you seem mortified and Mike is in the back row just delighted at his shit. It's his personal But I sure did I stirred it into the show apparently like oh My god, I found the fault. Oh my god!

I found the quote. What's the quote? First of all, I don't even know if I want to hear this on air, because I'm trying to balance between. I like them. I did like them. I did.

Jesus Christ. OK, so first of all, it's Harold's Bait Shop. You said there's a place called Harold's Bait Shop? I don't think there was a place called Harold's Bait Shop. So that's what Moody Bait says. And a quote from the shop owner, the Jackson piece, quote, Ricky J. gets all the free worms he wants, Harold says. That's crazy. Hold on, that's not the crazy part.

Start at the beginning. Hold on, do the whole thing again. Let me do it. Okay, are you guys ready? Ricky J. gets all... I can hear your smile. Okay, you you guys ready? All right? Ricky J. Get me your smile Okay, you don't you don't gotta read Smiling though the shit sir Ricky J gets all the free worms. He wants Harold says If and he wins the Super Bowl. Oh, that's nuts. If in that is really

If any wins the Super Bowl Then we gonna get some some worms and get the fish. This is why we don't have splash mountain anymore That might be the most offensive quote I've ever heard Tell you and did the column it's the final line of the column if it is gracious What if that's the reason around that was his closer? That was his clothes Got the line I got the line! I got it, here it is, an iffin! Wind up in the pitch!

That is bad. Yeeeeee! The day General Lee died The level of racist To write that quote it is not it is not a real quote dog That's the part

That's the part right there my man with Mark Twain on the shit It was the 90s. It was under surprise glad he didn't call Harold n-word Harold Granted nobody cared in the night. I don't feel good about this anymore That's a bad one I got it we got to do some more recently the article is if Dan wouldn't pick up the phone Hey was Woody through town But also like let's just assume it was, his defense is this was all a coincidence. I actually did go to town. I actually did interview these people.

I actually did find Harold, who owns Harold's Bait Shop. Dan, are you saying there was no Harold's Bait Shop in Pahokee? As I recall, we went and, like, tried to find one and couldn't. You went back? You went back? Yeah, because when someone tries you like that. No, no, no, I find one and could you went back you went down like that. Yeah because when someone tries you like that. I don't mean we physically went back I meant we went to like called around yeah called around trying to figure out if that existed and never found I think that competing look they had huge newspaper wars in Denver so the other newspaper was trying to get him in trouble. And failed. Yeah. They failed?

He didn't get it? He kept his job? It was the 90s. It was the 90s. If and they could find some evidence, maybe he would have gotten in trouble. Dan's just really like a footnote. There have been those allegations.

That nickname Woody Plage, Dan didn't come up with it. It sounds like he created it, because I've heard it twice now when Dan said it and also in that email My friend called him what he played His friends at the bait shop If it if and he gets plagiarized That's crazy. I want to use if in the entire rest of the show now every time I say something Chris feels really uncomfortable when you do that

I feel uncomfortable when he does it all of us do but I gotta be honest in 30 years Having thought about it. Like I wasn't totally sure what I really thought it was a finna and not an if in I was gonna say I've literally never heard the term if in the granite I didn't grow it up in the south if and you had grew up in the south You would have known it then I use finna. I'd like all the time and you know everyone I'm around it's it's a that's a term that we use If in is like this is gonna be really unfortunate that sounds that sounds like Time for like a victory lap Mean to do this I did not mean to like this is a celebratory time

Which one of the three of you did this? It was Mike it was Chris it was Dan which one of you I? Blame pie this is my how much of a percentage is going around I told you Why would you ever tell Dan anything you didn't want to get on air? I was it was more I was genuinely curious I had never heard the story so I was like oh I'm seeing this thing about plagiarizing what he page and did who would have thought it would get to racism all I'm doing Is trying to like change individuals opinion of what he page not the masses

And it's gonna get picked up on way more it is before On at a time that it's it's really unfair. Woody all right right can we take it back? No absolutely not he did that shit We can take it back if and he comes on here and apologize he gots to say sorry to us No Where's the mystery box? Mystery crate. Magic crate. Mystery crate is a totally different thing. Magic crate is what Andrew Hawkins has just reached into to bail us out on any topic if and where struggling.

Tell me it's about John Cena, tell me it's about John Cena. Tell me it's got the word if in it. Who would be best to solve a train murder mystery? Who would be the killer and why is it witty? Oh wow, that's an old one. I think we wrote that one like in what, 2021? It obviously would be me to solve the riddle. What do you mean we wrote it?

Well, I mean- John Cena's a killer. The box gets- What do you mean? We wrote it. We didn't write anything. The box- I meant the royal we, the royal we.

So the question again is, who is responsible for a train mystery? Can we get a new one? Who would be the best to solve a train murder mystery? No, I wanna answer this. I don't like this. I wanna answer. Put it back.

The best, it would be Tony. It's me, obviously. Tony's a, yeah. Clearly. He's a murderer, he's a lead investigator. That's a terrible question. Okay, this is a good one. That's Fuente's.

Who is the most famous person that might come to your funeral? Fuente. There you go. This is a good one. That's a good one. Fuente? Dan, would you come to my funeral? I'd be in jail. Responsible for it.

Tony would close that case real quick. All right, I'm out. It was good. It was fun. I loved working here. I think I gotta go on that note. Take a stand. Most famous person at your funeral.

Do we go around the horn? Yeah. Oh, too soon. Hey, dude. Who's the most famous person at your funeral? Is it the around the horn? Yeah! Oh, too soon. Hey, dude, I'm... Who's the most famous person at your funeral? Is it the big guy? At my funeral? The big cactus.

You think this original legend? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I'm talking about Big Aristotle. Oh, no, yeah, J. Cole? Diesel's not coming to my funeral, man. J. Cole? Cole will come to my funeral. Well, that's a, that's a, that's a bigger than that.

But I'm trying to think of like a one-up Cole. I might be able to one-up Cole, man. Are you gonna be able to one-up Cole? You can't one-up coal. I might be able to one-up coal, man. Are you gonna be able to one-up coal? You can't one-up coal. No, you can't one-up coal. It's a festival headliner. He's lying. You can one-up coal?

Hold on a second. Look at me be roaring. That feels more racist than Hiffin. Look at me be roaring. There's plenty of black Louisians. I don't know why it did that. I don't know, I hit the look at me Louis. I don't know why it did that. I don't know. I hit the look at me Louie. I don't know why it did look at me I hit the look at me Louie. I know more black Louies than Leroy. I hit the look at me Louie. I know way more black Louies than Leroy's.

I don't think I know Leroy. I know a Leroy. Yeah. Leroy! Look at me Louie, chill! On behalf of battalions I'm gonna go with that. I don't know what's going on with that. I don't know what's going on with that. It's all offensive. All of it. Michael Jordan. Most offended by him saying Michael Jordan. Michael Jordan's not going to your funeral. Come on!

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