The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 2: Is That A Snake Or Am I Aroused?

Episode Date: November 11, 2024

Auburn's men's basketball team had to turn its plane around because teammates were fighting on the plane and Bruce Pearl is getting props after they went out and won. You know who is not getting props? Lionel Messi. His Inter Miami Herons crashed out of the MLS Playoffs in disastrous fashion to Atlanta United and Greg Cote and Mike Ryan break down what went wrong. Luis Suárez shoved Team USA legend Brad Guzman (as Dan calls him) into the net after scoring a goal and it was uproariously funny. After that, we run through more football storylines including Deebo Samuel choking the San Francisco 49ers' long snapper, the Detroit Lions' great comeback win over the Houston Texans, Carson Beck stinking without Brock Bowers and Ladd McConkey, and the New York Jets losing in epic fashion to the Arizona Cardinals. Plus, Chris Cote shares a poem about the Miami Hurricanes that leads us down a steamy path. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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No purchase necessary. 21 plus ends November 15th, 2024. See rules at website for participating area and other important details. Sponsored by Diageo Americas Inc. New York, New York. This is the Don Leventor Show with the StuGuts Podcast. Leventhor show with the Stugats podcast. I saw a few people giving props and credit to Bruce Pearl for confronting a situation

straight on that I have not seen a lot of coaches have to confront before, which is an Auburn program that has gotten very good, had a flight derailed from where it is that it was supposed to be going because players were fighting on the plane. I would say that this is one of the places when you learn that your program is indeed getting good. But Bruce Pearl had to, well not Bruce Pearl, flight regulations made it so that once you've got

being shouted to air traffic control from pilots, the problem that you have on your plane, you cannot just keep going with people fighting on your plane. So Jessica, I know you are our flight correspondent, you are obsessed with flight, with planes and with travel. I don't have all of the details on this story. Please inform me because I can't wait

to get all the details on the story. And I'm hoping that we have, are we calling it cockpit sound? I'm hoping that we have- We do. We have air traffic control dispatches that Chris Cody is now going to play. We're all police on the ground and we had two players that got into physical altercation, clothes were ripped and one blood player. And center point, 681, it's kind of crazy. Will we direct Montgomery?

So this was en route to Houston where this fight broke out and you might be thinking, hmm, why do they have to turn a plane around for a fight? But then I saw a picture of how small this plane was and there's a decent chance the pilots could feel the jostling around back there. This plane was probably rocking. It was a small plane and people were, body parts were flying I guess, clothes were ripped, and it kind of makes sense. They ended up flying back,

they chartered a different flight, went back to Houston, those players stayed behind, And then Auburn won and they celebrated by referencing this incredible moment. Yes, they're running around the court the way that Patrick Mahomes ran around the field yesterday when they won. Is it more fun to run around with your arms spread like this? This is how Mahomes showed more joy on the field at the end of that blocked field goal. And I would ask this question via poll at LeBatard show. Can you have any faith in your athletic team when you're sending Lutz out there to do the winning?

Someone named Lutz. I will take it one step further. I didn't realize until last week he only has one L in his first name. That one slipped by me. That one slipped by me for... You thought it was a double L? Yeah.

I mean, oh, oh, I'm sorry. No, I just, I'm just, I'm asking because how, the LUT you were imagining was a double L, are there a lot of double Ls in last names that start a last name? No, Will. Will has one L. The first name has one L.

See, you made the same, how many one L Wills do you know? I thought, well, he's got another L today. You thought it was like Lloyd, like two L's in the last name? Like Lutz. Or like Greg Williams. Why would you spell Will with one L?

Like what's the parent thinking? You know, what's that short for? I mean you spell Greg with one G Everyone know this am I? Learned it when you said it I Thought you were talking about Lutz started his last name with two L's and so now I'm just looking at ways to make jokes about L's because he got an easy field goal blocked He got the 30 you're not expecting the 35 yarder to get to watch you're expecting the 50 yarder to get blocked It gets that low trajectory on those 50 yarders and that's where those big boys can put up

But when you get that one you got that pop shot up Just a great. I'm sorry great great penetration by the by the line. Oh, yeah I need to go back for a second. We all didn't well, let's had one L in his first correct, correct Okay That actually that makes me feel a lot better because I don't play fantasy football anymore and that when I saw it I was like I bet if I played fantasy I would know this so then I googled it and I was like maybe His first name is just WIL and not William or maybe it's William with one L, but it's not, it's William with two Ls. Then shortened to one L.

Shortened to one L. That doesn't make any sense. No. Thank you. If anyone knows why this is the case, please let me know. It's been bugging me all week. Let all of us know and in the interim, let's just hear Kevin Harlan's guttural reaction.

Oh! He went and got it. He went and got it from under his ground. Oh! He always does though. Yeah, but this was a stunner. He went and got it. He went and got it from under his ground. He always does though. Yeah, but this was a stunner. We weren't expecting that. I don't know what... I expected maybe a miss. Is Kansas City going to get lucky or I wasn't going to actually expect them to produce their own luck by blocking the field goal. I was as surprised as Harlan was

there. Maybe the Chiefs will give him another L. I've already felt like I made that joke a couple of times with the L and you guys are not listening. He did it better? Yeah. He did it better? Okay. All right. Well I thought. When I do it it's done. Okay. Me maximum. All right. All right. Let's see here. With as a will as an elf. Okay, that's... Greg Cody, major penalty, five minutes, me maximum. I'll serve that on Greg's behalf. That was my joke. Right, wow.

I haven't seen that happen around here before, but we're making our own rules. I haven't seen Greg deliver a line I've delivered in his ear before. Thank you. So, really good teamwork. Yeah, it really is. Okay, or bad teamwork that's getting you

to analyze that. It's on me. I wasn't gonna throw you under the bus. No, that's totally on me. Okay, way to go, Greg. Thank you. Good team player. I wanted to talk with you and Mike Ryan about what happened to Enter Miami on Friday because. Saturday.

Saturday, thank you. It's the highest paid team in the sport. It's the best regular season team there's ever been in the sport. The first time there have been two 20 goal scorers. You saw that Taylor Twelman put out that in the last 18 games that Messi has played where he has played all 90 minutes for

Inter Miami they are 15 and 3. All three of the losses are against Atlanta and they just had their season extinguished and something that has to represent one of the great postseason collapses that we've seen losing that early when you have that payroll and that kind of star power we discussed last week. I Was saying I will not call this season a failure just because they're building something here And they've built it and there were plenty of people who cared about what was happening against Atlanta But there is no arguing that when you've had the regular season they have and when you have that payroll you're expecting more and that this ended with the greatest duck fart that you can have losing at home in Fort Lauderdale to Atlanta losing to a team that you're better than because soccer

happens sometimes and and losing to a 40 year old goalie on top of that losing to a 40 year old goalie when you control the entire game you you're taking all the shots, you control everything, and next thing you know you're finished because the Guzman is laughing in your face. Brad Guzan, not Guzman, legendary international keeper for the U.S. men's national team. To dismiss him as a 40-year-old keeper is... Guzman. ...got unbelievable disrespect for one of the great legends. national team to dismiss him as a 40 year old keeper is Guzman got unbelievable disrespect for one of the great legends. He's 40 years old. He's

really good though and he didn't have to move around that much. You can be a 40 year old goalie. Brad Guzman as Dan likes to call him. Yeah you can be especially at the club level you can be a very effective goalie at 40 years old, Brad Guzman. It does sound like a name. American legend. In respect to Dan, Brad Guzman sounds like a name. We do one thing historically well and consistent enough and that's produce goalies, but apparently not good enough for Dan to know your last name.

The 40 year old goalie cannot be knocking you out of the playoffs. I mean you could say nobody can be knocking you out out the playoffs and speak with a good amount of conviction there. We talked about this. I will say, as much as I wanted to enter Miami to advance on this playoff being a supporter of the club, part of me is like a legacy. I'm a less fan is reveling in the fact

that Messi couldn't get past Dax McCarty and Brad Guzman, as Dan likes to call him. Because it's a kooky playoff. It takes essentially a month to play the best of three. They got a bit unlucky with Bousquet's illness. Bousquet tries to give it a go a little bit and has some minutes and some playing time against Atlanta, but where Atlanta and teams had success largely against Inter Miami this season's on that counter attack and without Busquets there

to help mitigate that, that was difficult, but you should be beating them. And we told you that's ultimately the barometer that US sports fans understand. You have a regular season, you have a postseason, the best team wins a postseason here in the United States. That's how it goes and if they're not going to win that that tournament then they're not going to convince the Casual sports fans that this is a success and the problem is the supporter winning the supporters shield has almost become a curse in Eight only eight of 29 supporters shield winners have gone on to win the MLS Cup But they didn't just lose in the first round. They lost to a team with a losing record.

They lost to a team whose entire roster made less money than Lionel Messi did by $5 million. So they, look, Inter Miami could have gotten to the MLS Cup final and lost, and it still would have been a letdown. That's how much of a favorite they were, a betting favorite and otherwise. You just have to win it all if you're messy after that regular season. There's no excuse, and I know Atlanta's a tough matchup for them. Atlanta has won four and tied one the last six meetings between these teams. There's something about Atlanta United,

but there's no excuses. They had the roster built to be the best team in MLS history, which has to include a championship. Mike, can you explain what this video was? Or Greg, maybe you can explain what happened here, because I didn't watch this game, but this video popped up of what appears to be a goal followed by

Look, the goalie's my age and then he gets pushed into the net. Inter-Miami just shoving the keeper into the net and then he can't get out. And Suarez is like, get up! Why did they do this to him? Because Messi was trying to get the ball. He touched Messi and so the team's gotta defend Messi. And the goalie was trying to get the ball from Messi. The goalie wanted to do some shithousery, which was prevent Messi. And the goalie was trying to get the ball from Messi. The goalie wanted to do some shit-housery,

which was prevent Messi from getting the ball to avoid the pomp and circumstance and quickly play a goal that no doubt gets reviewed for 30 minutes afterwards. That shove is so funny. I love Zora, it's just like, come on, get out of the net. What are you doing? Wait a minute, the thing that is funniest

is indisputably Armand Guzman falling into the net there and just being like he's kind of flopping but he also can't get out of the net. Ha ha ha ha ha. It isn't every day that Messi scores with a header. That was the craziest part about that. That was incredible. There was one controversial goal

that I didn't really have an issue with it and that Atlanta scored a goal while an Inter Miami player was writhing in pain inside their own box earlier yes There that's a dumb discussion you play to you played to the whistle I understand there's a sportsmanship where you'll see like a player go down and the team like kicks it out of bounds Not in the box though. They were they were on the attack there. I had no issue with it. They got him a list

They got look it's hard to win knockout tournaments especially in soccer because so many of the variables can change and that's embarrassing for Inter Miami. Ultimately, I think it took David Beckham a while to win that one too. There's more trophies for them to win now that Messi is in there. They've certainly won enough, at least in the eyes of FIFA for them to get the real prize out of this season which was earned placement in next year's Club World Cup where FIFA has already announced Inter Miami will be opening up that tournament. It's a World Cup but just for club teams. So you get the best of Europe, best of Middle East, best of Asia, best of Latin America,

and best here of North America. they're gonna be opening that tournament at Hard Rock Stadium. So I guess using that as a qualifier, they're in the tournament, then I guess it was a good season, but it was all kinda weird how they engineered that. I guess I'm the president of everybody, you're in, okay. Well, but you say,

you guys are making it very all or nothing, okay? You're saying either you win a championship or there isn't something that feels. I'm not saying that. But that's Joe Sports fan here in the United States. That's what Billy would say, that's what Stugatz would say, and they don't really care, they're just getting a reaction. But you have to win that, he joined MLS.

He hasn't won MLS. He's won a supporter shield and he's won a league's cup those are different he's got to get judged on by most people what he does in that in that seasons tournament right and and the fact is inter Miami only has them for two full seasons right and next year the odds are they're not gonna win the supporters shield again Messi's gonna be a year older. The league will have had an entire cycle of messy to get used to him and defending them.

And I just think this was the year after the regular season they had. This was his year. He's shown these pretty good though, Greg. Like I think he's going to be good next year. I understand. Like they're going to add, they're going to add players to that roster. They're still going to be, they're going to still players to that roster. They're still going to be, they're going to still have deeper coffers. They're just going to, they're just going to have more lottery shots. It's not that you guys are just making it all or nothing or putting the appraisal where sports fans do on if you have the best regular season, you have to win the championship.

The thing that's deflating about it is it wasn't even any kind of run. You're losing to a team with a worst record and it's just sort of soccer happening to you in a small sample size and a weird playoff format that has you playing three games in a month. Better now than at the end. If they're not gonna win, let's save his legs and not have him go through that many games. It stinks, but you'll have to prioritize.

This year, they didn't make the regular season the priority. They had to suffer through a lot of injuries and they ended up still setting a record for the regular season. They tried to do things where they prioritize the CONCACAF Champions League or Champions Cup, whatever it's called now. That didn't turn out well. They tried to make a run even though Messi was hurt in League's Cup, fell short. They did win one trophy historically, unless you're the likes of Real Madrid where there's some instances in which you win a trophy and not everybody's happy with it, winning a trophy in a season when you have the ability to win three or more, that's not a bad season. Hey podcasters, it's Mike Ryan and let me tell you something, the NBA's got a lot going

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as punctuation video. Do you have the ability to show us Guzman in the net very slowly, slow motion trying to get out of the net. After he gets pushed in here, he's furious, he's bald, he looks like Pinhead from the horror movies. Cartoon sound effects would be so good behind this. Okay, but let's do this in slow motion first because this is funny and it would happen to any of us. It's how I try to get out of the ball pit

when I have fallen into the ball pit and my local Chuck E. Cheese's. When? Yesterday? Last month. It's how I try to get out of the ball pit when I have fallen into the ball pit in my local Chuck E. Cheese's. Last month. Yes, it's in the ball pit. Very slow motion. You know what, he did better than most under the circumstances as if he has some experience

propelling himself out of the awkwardness of a net. I love how protected Messi is. Number eight on Inter Miami shoves him into the net and no one's upset about it because hey you bumped Messi. Guzman was certainly upset about it. He looks like a marionette trying to get out of the net. This is one of the best soccer videos I've ever seen. It is great.

If they did this more I I'd watch them a lot. More at just pointing at his face. Oh, great. I wanna run through a little bit more football with you guys. Are you guys as surprised as I am whenever a young way coup misses any field goals, nevermind all of the field goals?

I don't know if you guys were surprised at all by Moody missing three field goals yesterday, and then Debo Samuel wanting to kill everybody on his team, including the long snapper. That's the part I was surprised by. It was literally Debo on the sideline, like did he smack the snapper? Both of them in one shot.

Didn't he put his hands on the throat of the long snapper? And then apologized to Moody for being Moody about it. The vibes were so weird in that game because it was like, oh, McCaffrey's back. We were humming a little bit. Like, Kittle, that touchdown was incredible. The throw was insane. The scramble, the throw, the catch was amazing.

Kertie made two plays at the end of that game that could have only been topped by the two that Mayfield made, and then they lose because, Tampa loses because Moody finally does make one of the four kick. Brock Purdy has a little Duncan Robinson in him that anytime he does anything athletic,

I'm just shocked at it every time. Because Purdy is legitimately good at like, seeing pressure, getting out of the pocket, but every time I'm always like, he's sneaky athletic. No, Chris, this is what's happening. Foxworth spoke to this in a second ago. Both Purdy and Baker Mayfield are great athletes compared to anyone in the world. You know, they're just not great athletes when being chased by 350 pound people who

are more athletic than anyone you also know, except when Nick Bosa is trying to bring you down and Baker all the Sudden just has the arm of steel and just like doesn't let him go that throws a rope does Rashad white It's like when you're eating food on the couch and your dogs trying to get it and you got to just stick the arm out You just gotta stick the arm out and it worked. It was ridiculous. Yep to that moody point though You come back from injury, right? You have a high ankle sprain. You're out for five weeks You're starting to get back into the flow of things. Hey, you miss a couple kicks. That's part of the deal, right? I got my ankle rolled up on it's screwed up and then a teammate makes you feel worse about it and then

Smacks you with it. It's like I can't what are we doing here? I cannot talk enough to the audience in general about How little respect real football players have for the guys deciding games who do not play real football. I cannot articulate to you, cannot explain to you, they don't think they're actual football players and they all secretly feel like Debo Samuel, they just don't want to all strangle the long snapper for costing them games. When Debo Samuel was in the hospital recently, do you know what they're doing to their bodies

to win those games? And then the kicker comes out and starts bleeping with their money, with everything. They do not respect those guys. They're not playing the same sport that Debo Samuel is playing. And Debo Samuel resents that they're deciding the games for him.

I'm trying to think of other professions where this exists, like someone's job that can be very important at times, but you're just disrespected a lot, like in our world, like the IT guy. Like we don't care about GQ until something breaks and we're like, god damn it GQ, you stink. He's an engineer though, he's not an IT guy. Whatever, I'm just.

Yeah, I guess that proves your point. What are you doing? Robert is the IT guy and you're just taking over. Robert's also an engineer though. He's not an IT guy. Whatever. I'm just yeah I guess that proves your point. What are you doing? Robert is the IT guy and you're just Robert's also an engineer. But Robert is kind of like kickers. Robert's one of these people You might not talk to him for a few days, but if something goes wrong, we're like, god damn it Robert! Valid. Thank you, dad. That is valid. And by the way, nobody had a worse game than Koo Who's a Lobo and so the Lobos could have used him. You're like me. You're surprised any time he misses a kick of any sort, correct?

And here's the problem for kickers. It used to be if you miss a 50-yard field goal, all right, that's a long kick. You know, we don't blame you. Now if you're taking a 58-yard kick, I expect you to make that. I think it's gotten by 10 yards at least the the kicker is now Expected to make kicks that he wasn't expected to make before yeah like last night last night Bates for the line It was a 58 yarder to win it And I'm just like I mean he's obviously got enough leg you have to make that and he did because it's never short

It's crazy like these kicks someone's gonna make a 70 yard kick the way. They're making these 58 yarders It's crazy because they all make them by distance, way they're making these 58 yarders, it's crazy. Because they all make them by distance and they're never short, it's always left or right. What do you guys do with the way that the Lions won that football game and to be in the rarefied air, this is not, I don't have any experience with this.

The Lions have been bad the entire time I've been alive. The Lions are not a team, an organization that can ever be trusted to do the correct things because never mind that they're better than everyone else because they simply can't be trusted to do the right things. Chris Cody is watching that game last night, watching Jared Goff throw five interceptions and saying there is no circumstance under which Detroit's not winning this football game. That is a level of faith that I have never assigned not even for a quarter not on a Thanksgiving I have never assigned that kind of confidence to a Detroit Lions franchise in my lifetime where you would believe

That yeah, Houston's not gonna win here. Even though Jared Goff is turning the ball over five times They're down 23 7 and I thought they to cover. I had the Texans plus three and a half. I was like, my wife is like, Oh, you're up to it. I'm like, no, this is the Lions. They're going to come back. Like that team is so just like that offense do well oiled. There is no team in the sport that can beat you more ways, right? Cause they had golf like had 23 yards the other day and they were winning by 40 because their special teams

had three different touchdowns. Their offensive line is as strong as any in the sport. And then in the second half of that game, as they're putting up the fourth quarter points, you're watching and Houston's got nothing since halftime. They can't get points after halftime because of how restrictive everything gets when Nico Collins is hurt there.

That and Aiden Hutchinson, who was their best pass rusher, still is like top 10 or something in pressures for a defensive lineman. He hasn't played in like five weeks. Yeah, he's probably a little bit longer than that. Was there anything else in college football that jumped out at you guys from this weekend from the enjoyment of the weekend because Miami losing was one of the big stories but it felt to me that

Georgia losing that way and that George's receivers are so bad compared to last year they've left more yards on the field I think than any receivers that we've seen it's a bit startling for me to see Lane Kiffin do that that way though to Georgia. It's not that I'm gonna be surprised that Georgia loses an SEC game, but to have it be like that, where they're not able to do anything, and I generally assume that Georgia's got better players

than the other guys. Carson Beck is not good. Oh man, he misses Brock Bowers and Lad McConkie so much. It is insane just how much his play has changed from last year to this season. He is a turnover machine now. It's literally like, it's completely made me reevaluate him as a quarterback because if he doesn't have the world's best receivers with him, he's mid. I think it's an O-line issue too though. The O-line's not been playing as well and under

pressure he just isn't, he's not being, he's not playing well.line's not been playing as well and under pressure he just isn't he's not being he's not playing well it's not a good situation it's TV DS the way that he went from is he the number one pick in the draft to is he a day three pick is he a guy who's gonna be undrafted like that's how far it's fallen Gronk calls Bowers the best tight end ever right like says that he's the best time in football right now like Trey McBride would like a word that guy that guy yesterday You see how he threw sauce Gardner off him and then just hurdled another defender Stugats here for my friends over at simply safe the holiday season is right around the corner That means you're away more and burglars know it that means you need to protect your home right now

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Yeah. He said all. First I heard any of this Greg. Everything you're saying. It's all been said. Okay you gotta understand one thing. Stoogats. Me maximum. That's right. Until I say it, it hasn't been said. Boom. Okay understand that. You're the mayor. until I say it this is the down libertar show with his two guards the stuff with the Jets is super interesting I didn't understand yesterday why the Jets were a two-point favorite at Arizona. I thought Kyler Murray wasn't playing. I thought he was like a late scratch

when I saw that the Jets were favored by two. I'm like, why would the Jets be favored by two there? That was the weirdest betting line of the week. And I picked Arizona without giving it much thought. And not because I'm that smart, because the betting line looked weird. And I have to think it's because New York is always an over bet team because there's so many betters in New York. I mean the Jets and the Giants are always going to be bet.

That's not why it's happening. The Jets that was one of these strangest lines of the season, betting lines of the season, it's not because New York is over bet. of the season, betting lines of the season, it's not because New York is over-bet. I'll give you a stat. The two teams in the league that have lost the most since 2017, 85 times, the Jets and the Giants. New York football stinks and has stunk for damn near a decade. Since 2017, no one loses more than the Jets and the Giants. I didn't understand what, I actually asked Mina and Mike before the game, who's out here that I'm not seeing in any of the reports

that makes the Jets a two point favorite on the road? Like, why would anybody, and the response was that Arizona's defense is bad, but when you look at what Aaron Rodgers is doing statistically through 10 games games it's the same as what zach wilson was doing statistically through ten games like that experiments over it's not just a in at colossal failure it's an enduring one that's going to end erin rogers career can imagine

not only can i not imagine he's gonna want to play another year after this i imagine once a quick right now i imagine he'd like to not have to suffer through the last few games of what this feels like physically For for what for who like Ricky Waters said when he was running across the middle and wasn't putting out his arms to catch Something like what if Aaron Rodgers wanted to quit right now, would you be surprised? If he retired in the middle of a season wanted to not if he's going to wanted to if he just wanted to not go back to work this morning he's gonna take a cabinet position that's what's gonna happen oh I like that true yeah no you know like that you should not like that they

won't be out by January though so I mean they won one game and you went on McAfee and said like some wild conspiracy theory like two weeks ago and I was like oh man if they keep winning this is gonna be it's gonna be really ugly But thank God they've kept losing but Lucy's right. That's what we're heading towards But when I say that that the Jets are over bet what I mean is there's a million Jets fans Who keep forgetting that Aaron Rodgers is almost 41 years old and their wish betting their hope betting every week that this is the week that he finally looks like the player they thought they were getting and an ink and i happen but that's why i think that's why

arizona should have been favor by two or three points there's no question about it's not one great when i'm telling you is it's a i don't know how to tell you that that's not why it's not because new york all of a sudden was the only one interested in that game and move the line five points because in new york what i'd i was asking questions uh... before the game yesterday because i assumed that that somebody was out i was then told that the arizona defense is bad

and there were some expectation uh... that the jets would match up in some way in a way that suggested the better saw something. I don't know if you guys noticed this the other day, before the University of Miami Georgia Tech game that line started going down. It went from a 12 early in the week and it just all week went down and down until it ended up at whatever it was eight and a half points. The Jets line kept going in favor of the jets it it it was confusing to me that the jets were favored at all in that

football game or that the jets would be favored against much of anybody on the road for any reason like they're the one of the worst teams in the league and one of the worst offenses in the league so when they go to arizona and they are that the line keeps climbing, I'm assuming that I don't know something. But it's not because New York, that's never the reason. Because New York bets a lot is not the reason on an NFL game. I think you're wrong and I've seen it with Jets betting lines earlier this season. This is not the first time that the Jets betting line has looked

weird relative to the rest of the league on a weekend. I think people bet with hope that Aaron Rogers and the Jets are going to turn it around. They're wish betting. Exactly. But that's not New York doing that is what I'm saying. It's not Jets fans. It might be belief in Aaron Rogers. It's not Jets fans. There are too many bets being made for Jets fans to be making any kind of dent in that I just think also people aren't buying the Cardinals yet. Like I think it's just a combination of everything I don't just I think there is some truth to what my dad's saying. The Jets are a popular team

They're probably bet more than other teams, but it's not gonna move like it's not just in New York Well, but Kyler Kyler Murray has been pretty good this year and Marvin Harrison, Jr But Kyler Murray has been pretty good this year and Marvin Harrison Jr. has made his career. He has turned him around as a quarterback, as the quarterback that they hope he would be. McBride too. Like it's not a small thing that they have another one of these Frankenstein tight ends running around out there. And he only had four catches for 71 yards yesterday. But when you watch their games McBride is expected to be targeted Uh close to 10 times heavily. He still hasn't scored a touchdown yet, though I think he's got the most receiving yards and targets for a tight end without having a touchdown

Yeah, McBride. He hasn't he he was missed by the way There was a bootleg play action pass that kyler murray, I think two games ago completely missed him. He was standing in the end zone like Do you see me? Do you see me? And then Kyler Murray overthrew it six feet, you know, six yards past the line. But when you look at that game, it was, are people wish betting the Jets saying that, oh, they're going to turn it around? Because when you look at that line,

was Vegas trying to like get people to entice and bet on the Jets? Do you have a home dog, especially on a team going out west and a team who's not that good? That's not how betting works. Vegas, all Vegas does is try to get an equal amount of betting on both sides of a bet. That's all the line is.

I will just, I will say to you that while Cody's making this argument on the Jets, I have not seen a stranger line this season than that one. Where I simply assume, do you know what it is for me to look at a line and see it be five or six points off and make me think, is Kyler Murray out? Sure, that's the first thing you look.

Dallas yesterday was a 7 point underdog with their backup quarterback just simply because they were playing at home and we expect all of these games to be close because almost all of them are. There aren't a lot of differences between these teams. The thing that was special about yesterday in football wasn't that it was good football Is it's a ton of close football and a ton of close football at the end because there's not a lot of differences But between whatever it is you think the differences are between teams But to have a five-point line where I'm looking at something

I'm like I don't understand why the Jets are giving points on the road When they stink. And I feel while Arizona might not be good. They got my attention the very beginning of the season when they went to Buffalo and did that offensively and I'm like well maybe they're better than I think they are because that offense looked against Buffalo from the very beginning of the season the way it's looking like most of the way the rest

of this game since where you can't do much with Connor Connor's going to run to be able to run the ball on you because at least in part they have Harrison and McBride and Kyler Murray's impossible to he's impossible to corral. He's going to he's going to be somebody that extends these plays in ways that are athletically ridiculous. I would also mention and I just looked it up to confirm what I thought. Arizona does not have a terrible defense. Their defense has given up twenty two

points a game which is about fourteenth mid-pack not terrible and so when you have kyle or murray working the way he's working right now they can win the people i was asking use different stats than the one you're using to measure defense that stat that you're using and i don't you don't use any of the advanced uh... metrics on what a defense actually is you don't use the numbers that would tell you that green bay for example any of the advanced uh... metrics on what a defense actually is you don't use the numbers that would tell you that green bay for example some of the stuff

mike ryan is arguing that their past uh... their past russian their timely turnovers mirage a bit of a mirage on how good they are defensively because generally speaking turnovers aren't something that you can cause or cause in a timely fashion they're pretty fluke the right the people who i was asking yesterday about why this not why is this number the way it is? That the answers I was getting was about that defense being Metrically challenged in the way that the empirical measurements are done

Not just not just points per game and 22 is not great by the way, like it's it's it's pretty middling back It's mid-pack. It's not bad If you look across all of the of the games this past weekend There was still a lot of like weird lines like the Cowboys game You said minus seven they they end up losing by it by four scores Which Vikings the Vikings were seven point favorites against Mac Jones and they only cut they they won by five the What was the other game Denver Denver game?

But the Bears and the Patriots Bears are six-point favorites against the Patriots team that isn't that good until you realize Hey, the Bears have been playing really bad teams for the first stretch of their other season now They're on the back half of playing some really good defenses and they can't do anything. This Dolphins line tonight is odd Why are the Dolphins only plus one and a half? Like they've looked really bad the last few weeks, the Rams are healthy, it just seems like an easy one for the Rams. I mean their offense is back since, you know, they've averaged 28 points a game since two has been back,

that's pretty good. Good loss last week or before. Yeah, I mean they've lost two games in a row on last second field goals, you know, they do a break, the Dolphins and I know that's an intangible nobody likes to hear do a break is not the way anyone's betting that's not they're not a one and a half point dog because they're do a break I understand that's why I instantly said I know nobody wants

to hear those intangibles because I know that do a break I don't even know what that means in fact I would say more than that do a break in football is there do someone physically breaks If Kyler Murray if to a guy hit the way Kyler Murray did on that play yesterday the sport shuts down, right? That's it. We do bring back the guy that accused the Dolphins of murder you have that guy on again If the Dolphins are do a break or the chiefs The chiefs to the whatever the opposite is that's what the chiefs are. Yes, correct. It's a law of averages thing, right? It's a law of averages thing.

The trend is your friend, but the trend must end. If you have a team that's lost eight games in a row... I'm in. Whatever he said, I'm in. He's got a poem. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree. Chris Cody also has, I hope, another poem that he can put together on the fly based on yesterday's, on the music played earlier in the show.

This one is about the University of Miami. ["Mario Crystal Ball"] ["Mario Crystal Ball"] ["Mario Crystal Ball"] ["Mario Crystal Ball"] ["Mario Crystal Ball"] ["Mario Crystal Ball"] ["Mario Crystal Ball"]

["Mario Crystal Ball"] ["Mario Crystal Ball"] dropped the ball, couldn't see with his crystal ball. Cam Ward ends with D, and so too, Miami. That's it. Is that a rattlesnake? What is happening back there? Is that, what is it? It's a slam poetry. It's a very spicy image on on the

music video it's called intimacy and it's like a fire beating up with an ice and they're kind of together bang to this music very spicy there is a even less reason as to why we've been waiting for six years for Sue gots to do this at the grid of death I mean Chris Cody just farted out a banger. Why hasn't Stu Gadd gotten around to this? It's been eight years. Is that a rattlesnake? It sounds a bit like a rattlesnake.

Can you start me over again on the music? Those are maracas. I know, but if I told you simply, you're walking through the desert, it's dark at night, you can't totally see everything that's happening. I'm going the other way. I would be a little nervous, but also, why does it feel like I'm about to fuck?

Walking through the desert, and also super horny, and it's scary. It's just me or is it really sexy out here? It is. I'm thirsty. I'm dying crawling through this desert. Yes. Johnny Depp's burying something in the ground.

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