The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 2: Jim Harbaugh's Diving Board

Episode Date: September 19, 2024

We kick things off with Thursday Thunder AND get to this week's Useless Sound Montage. We also found Jon Lieber...but he's at a sales training conference in Fort Lauderdale. Then, Boxing Hall of Famer Andre Ward has joined All the Smoke, and he joins us to discuss his transition out of boxing and into having a regular life, the difficulty of being excellent, his relationship with Floyd Mayweather, and Jake Paul and Mike Tyson. Plus, what does Amin think of the report that the Golden State Warriors were sniffing around Jimmy Butler? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Dan, you'd be surprised by them. I wouldn't say good, but I would say pesky and frisky. Pesky and frisky against the New York Jets tonight in New York at the Meadowlands. Perky. We've got a three-leg parlay all in Thursday Night Football, a single game parlay by our friends at DraftKings. First leg, over 60 rushing yards for Breece Halton. 60 rushing yards is the number there. Second leg of the parlay,

we're going back to the ground game. Dan, we're establishing the run early on Thursday Thunder. Braylon Allen, who I very much like, by the way, very much like, over way. Very much like over 25 yards on the ground. We didn't get your top five observations. We have it. If you want to go to it we have it. We have your top five football observations. We absolutely need to get to that. Last leg New York Jets minus six against a spread. Different segment but in the same Thursday Thunder. So Priest Hall over 60

Braylon Allen over 25 and the Jets minus six that is your Thursday Thunder, so Priest Hall over 60, Braylon Island over 25, and the Jets minus six, that is your Thursday Thunder. The good news is we have found John Lieber, who allowed two RBI to the one-handed Jim Abbott. The bad news is that he is tied up all day at a sales training conference in Fort Lauderdale to promote his new cruise planning business. Wow! He's here?

He's here! He's gotta be in studio tomorrow. I love a cruise. He's gotta be in studio tomorrow. I love a cruise. He's gotta be in studio. We gotta see if John Lieber will come in tomorrow and sit with us. I will drive. I'll go drive and get him.

I'll go on his cruise. Yeah, I'll pick him up. Wait. I will. You'll go on his cruise? I mean, isn't that what he just said? He's at a sales training conference to promote his new cruise planning business.

He can plan my cruise. There you go. He have one customer in me if you come on this show. I'll pick them up tomorrow. That's called quick pro quo, folks. Let's do this. Let's do the useless sound montage because we've gotten away from the useless sound montage

and it is Thursday and it's late for the useless sound montage, but off of the football weekend, there were all manner of people saying useless things. Let's gather them all in one place and let's start with Jim Harbaugh. I love guys who like football. Guys who like football, they like me back and I like them back. And even guys that don't like football, I mean, they try to avoid me because I'm always trying to get them to like football more.

The first chop of the tree doesn't chop the tree down. It takes sometimes 272 ax chops and it took every single one tonight to get the job done. The quarterbacks tend to play better when you're able to run the football effectively. I asked Malik why he didn't throw the ball in that third down and he told me that Josh threw up on the ball and I was like, that's the first time I've ever heard that. These are kind of the games you look back on late in the season and you're thankful that you won these. Yeah, it's just great to get a win,

any win that you can get, especially early in the season. They're gonna be critical as we go move on forward to the season. We're not gonna hope for a change, we're gonna do some things to create a change. I'm not a doctor. I take accountability You know there it starts with me as players. We got to be better. I got to be better I got to you know, pick him up. I got to pick up other guys. You know, the guys got to pick up me That's how we win and unfortunately couldn't overcome too many mistakes today and look in the mirror and fix it

You know, I got to play better How do we put guys in some better spots and that's collectively and it always starts with me. Their head coach cost them this one so 100% on me we improved there's areas we got to continue to improve on but it's not okay. Just because you got you know really good players and good scheme doesn't mean the other teams gonna give it to you you have to go out and earn it so we've had to learn that you know the first two games of the season so hopefully we can be better next week. We always take it one week at a time.

And I think that's one of the great things that Coach Harvaz has taught us is, you know, you can't be 2-0 without being 1-0 and you can't be 1-0 without winning the first one. I mean, we suck right now. So I'm pretty shocked. He's a grown up and he knows better. And so, you know, I was really irritated that he cost us three points in a game that we probably needed it. Congratulations to our offense and our team. but we still got work to do. I'd love to answer that question, but there's a lot of meat on the bone. Great team effort, offense, defense, special teams, great week of practice.

All three phases did an excellent job today. They got to be a catalyst for us. They know it, they own that. They don't run from that, they run to that. Going into it, we know the turnover battle would be a big piece of this. It's how we want to play, it's part of our identity. And so to win the turnover battle, I thought was big. We get the little things right, the big things will take care of themselves.

And we just didn't take care of the little things. Just got to find a way to win. You know, like you said, I used to be an O-2. You just got to catch our momentum and get it started right away. We come in with that mentality that if we get the football with the chance to win the game, we're going to do it. And we were able to do that today. Sometimes good steps don't turn into wins though. Turnovers, they kill you. They very seldom give you an opportunity to win the game.

What I was most proud of is that the guys fought all the way to the end. I've tried to flip off a diving board into water. I've tried to do it off of a trampoline. I've, I mean, only tried it once off to just the ground, like he did it. And pretty much every time, for some reason, I stop mid-turn. I know people can do it, you know, rather easily.

Something I always tried to do. So yeah just cool cool. I've always admired people that could could do that. That's something I'm missing. Not getting that last part of it in. You know none of your businesses chop back, do it to the other team. You know I can't give you all the ingredients to the hot dog, you might not like it. None of your businesses, put it on the poll please, Juju. Does it sometimes take 272 ax chops?

And was Jim Harbaugh on a diving board of some sort while he was talking? Like what were those springs making sound in the background of what it is Jim Harbaugh was saying that was incredible for a couple reasons Number one the sound of the diving board do do do do like it's like he's bouncing on it But he's like he wants to do it But he's scared because he's failed as he told us in that sound and number two he went on for a long time Talking about that trampoline

trampoline Number three. What was the question that elicited that answer? Do you ever think about that, Dan, when you hear an answer in one of these press conferences? Not with Harbaugh, not with Harbaugh. I mentioned yesterday, I'll tell the story again because it's such an amazing one, the 2003 deposition of Donald Sterling

about his mistress when you wonder what a question is, because I've never seen this kind of answer to a question. I have to find it on my phone. I got you, so he's giving a deposition, right? And he's under oath, and he gives this answer, which is long, like Harbaugh's, and very detailed. It was about how he liked, I'm just gonna paraphrase, he liked to fool around in the back of a limousine, This answer, which is long, like Harbaugh's, and very detailed. It was about how he liked, I'm just gonna paraphrase.

He liked to fool around in the back of a limousine, he liked the sucking and the enjoyment, and he gave a lot of details, and then the attorney says, sir, the question was, is this your handwriting? The answer was, well, I fool around sometimes, I do. When a girl seduces me and tells me all these hot stories and dirty things and tells me about how she wants to suck on me

and take my shoes off and licks my feet and touches me. When I'm in a limousine, she takes all of her clothes off. The limo driver says, what's going on? And she starts sucking me on the way to Mr. Coon's house. And I thank her. I thank her for making me feel good. And that's when the attorney says, sir, the question was, is this your handwriting?

The greatest question and answer, answer and question ever. The other thing I really enjoyed this week was, I'm gonna pull back the curtain for the people. We get a list of all the sounds, and a little like two word, three word summary of what was said. Jim Harbaugh football guys, Trevor Lawrence looking in the mirror, et cetera, et cetera.

My favorite thing is on this sheet, Patrick Mahomes, just his name because we know it's just his voice. Doesn't matter what he said. We just like listening to his voice. McVeigh's voice was unusually hoarse during that one. Raspy. Andre Ward next. When you're hiring for your small business, you want to find quality professionals that are right for the role.

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Terms and conditions apply. Don LeBretard. You are very comfortable talking about how you met your wife, how much you love her, how important she is to you. And that's the reason that I asked the question. I've always admired that about you, that you have no problems whatsoever professing your love. Well, the thing is, I got a new wife now.

You know, me and Bianca didn't make it. So I moved on, we moved on. It was for the better for both of us. Stu gots. Things just got a little awkward there. So let me be the first on this show to congratulate you on the new wife, Vince. Congratulations on feeling feeling whole feeling complete

you know let's talk tailgating yeah don't be those don't feel awkward buddy you know I appreciate you soothing me in this regard but I already feel terribly awkward and then my teammate comes to my defense with not a question, just a healthy congratulations and the further pointing out of that awkwardness because he's always good for me in those spots. I'm also thinking of divorce Vince after many many years, 18 years with a partner who does things like that to you. This is the Don LeBattar show with the StuGuts. things like that to you. This is the Don Lebatar Show with the Stugats. I'm excited about this one. He's a boxing Hall of Famer, he's an Olympic gold medalist, a former unified world champion, retired with an undefeated

record. He is with our friends, Matt Barnes and Steven Jackson. He is their chief content officer on a combat sports vertical. You can follow on YouTube at ATS Fight and on the DraftKings network. They're doing a lot of great work. Steven Jackson has a show, Mortal Kombat, tapes out of the Metal Arts Studio in New York.

They're on the ground at Fight. There's a lot more coming and you've got Dre's show, The Art of Ward, debuted this week. Good talking to you, Andre. Thank you for making the time, sir. I appreciate that at this point in your life, you are now an executive and a content person and you have found out what to do in retirement

that doesn't batter your body. Thank you for making the time for us, sir. No, man. But it's good to be on with you. It's very, very good to, yeah, to not be in those wars and taking that punishment. But I kind of miss dishing it out, though. I've got to be honest with you.

You miss it? I miss dishing out the punishment, not taking it. What don't you miss about boxing? You know what, man, it's a and I've said this several times post retirement is one of the reasons you retire is to get your freedom back. And a very dedicated person, you know, how I do some things is how I do all things. You know, I'm very, very locked in.

I understood the dangers of the sport. I understood the dedication that I needed to be there. So whether I'm on vacation or whether I'm having time with my family, I got the sport on my mind. I don't miss those times. I don't miss those periods where my brain is always kind of split to think about my weight or the next fight or the next negotiation. So having that freedom and being a civilian, if for lack of a better phrase, and just being able to be a normal person and working out what I want to not beat myself up if I don't want to work out and just being a normal person and taking on other tasks like we're talking about today with this all the smoke stuff. That's that that's that's a very freeing feeling. But Andre you are underselling the obsessive compulsive thing that you had to do to be great at that when you can have it taken away from you on a punch and every Young hungry person in your sport wants what you have explained to the uninitiated

What it took to be you because I don't think anybody understands how hard it was to make it look as easy as you made It look I mean, you know when somebody's great at what they do, they make it look easy, but it's anything but. It's a lot of tinkering, a lot of toiling, a lot of rough days, it's a lot of questioning yourself, it's a lot of finding yourself again, and obviously a lot of physical hard work. But I'm a very, like, I'm a mental guy, you know?

I'm very, very in tune with the mind, And I feel like, you know, that's, that's so important when you talk about just life, but then also sports. And so I was always not just doing physical reps, but the mental reps. And then after you've done all that prep work, all the hard work, now you have to go execute. So that's the tricky part about this thing, man. But, but I love, I loved it. But you just get to a point where you don't love it like you used to. And when you start to get to that point where the R word, retirement, starts to get in your mind, you start saying it and it starts to,

you just start to hear it in your conversation, it's probably beginning to be time to start making that decision. But the beautiful thing is this, that obsession, that being locked in, that focus, now I can put that toward other things. And that's the missing piece a lot of times for athletes and even entertainers or anybody who's done something

for an extended period of time, the door closes on what they previously did or what they were known for, now they're lost. They don't have that other project. I've always been a man on a mission. I've always been a man with a mission. You just have to change the mission. Same passion, same drive, just for other things.

More specifically though, if you were explaining to a stranger, here's the arduous thing that I had to do in the shadows that no one understands how arduous this part of it was to be as excellent as I was, because Drew Brees says, excellence is lonely. Greatness is lonely. Like when you're running at five o'clock in the morning

and you don't wanna do it a second time, third time in a day, like explain to the person who doesn't understand, for you to stay on top, the example you can give me of, you could not do what I did here would be what? The one thing, one thing, there's many, but one thing is maintaining your belief in yourself and your ability in the

biggest moments. Fighters, athletes, they put on a good front a lot of times. And I'm not saying that we do, we aren't confident we are, we would not get to the level that we got to if we were not confident. But every athlete, at a certain point in time, when the event gets close, and even in preparation, where you have to battle doubt, you have to battle fear, you have to battle worry, you have to battle these things. How you battle those things determine who you are that night, that day, whatever sport you play. You got to win that battle over

and over and over and you have to fight that fight very very well or you won't you won't be successful for any extended period of time. That's not talked about with a lot of athletes, but that battles, that's a real thing. I think it's super interesting that you're shrugging off the physical stuff and you're just doing the mental stuff, because I'm imagining what you're saying to me is,

do you understand what my pain threshold has to be as a boxer for the physical stuff? That I got conquered, that ain't the hard part. Well, I can't even really do the physical consistently at the level it needs to be done if my mental isn't right. We shine a bright light on the physical and that's cool to get the clips for, you know, All Access, 24-7, or just whatever content,

whatever content channel you're on, but you do gotta wake up. there's some days you wake up and you don't feel like doing that. That's when the mental comes in there's some days because you've done this thing whatever sports you're in or whatever it is that you do for so long that you can kind of do it mindlessly you can just go through the motion. But when you train with a purpose when you train and prepare with an urgency, that's mental

fortitude. That's something in you saying, I don't feel like it, but I still gotta push through. So that's why for me, the mental part is so important. Who gets the most respect from you there on he would fight anybody? What do you mean? Just somebody whose legacy you do not question

because you are saying they took on all comers and didn't do the earned right of I'm going to pick and choose at the end because I've, I'm going to protect the business. There's a lot of guys. I mean, you know, but you, but the more we start talking about those guys like the James Tonys and, and, and many others that came behind him, the, the McClellan and, you know, Roy and certain people at certain points in times in their career,

um, you start to get, you start to get further away from this, this, this legacy. Excuse me, you start to get further away from this era. So the game is different. And even Floyd, you know, Floyd gets a lot of flack for picking and choosing and Floyd fought the tough fights. You got pretty boy Floyd Mayweather at the first 10 years of his career.

And then he got to a certain threshold threshold in a certain point after the Oscar Delahoye fight where he could pretty much fight whoever he wanted to fight. But even Floyd later in his career, he still fought Marcos Madonna. That ain't twice at his age. That ain't that ain't no easy fight. So Floyd is definitely in that category and there's a lot of other greats that are in that category. It's tough to point out a lot of those guys now.

It's not a lot of those guys that are in the top position where they're there. They have high earning power that are willing to take on those challenges. And again, you shouldn't take on those challenges, fight in and fight out. You should not do that. That you get to a point you earn the right to pick and choose. But if you want to have a legacy play and a money play at some point in time, you got to fight some of the other best guy in that division or around your division and continue to show the fans and prove to yourself that you are still the guy you say that you are.

Where is your relationship these days with Floyd Mayweather? I offer you no disrespect when I say that he used to call you a corporate shill and I imagine a man as proud as you probably wasn't having much of that. I've never had a relationship with Floyd. I've never had a relationship with and I imagine a man as proud as you probably wasn't having much of that. I've never had a relationship with Floyd. I've never had a relationship with Floyd. I've always seen Floyd in passing. You know, I've flown from the Bay Area

probably three or four times when he had training camps. I would come watch him for a day. Was always respect, you know, when I see him. Oh, what's up champ, oh, what's up champ. That's always the case with Floyd. But he's taken many shots at me throughout the years. That's a question you gotta ask him. I have no personal issues with Floyd.

I don't agree with a lot of stuff that Floyd does or says, you know, outside the ring, but I'll always honor him. I'll always give him the respect he deserves as the virtuoso that he is inside the ring. Man, I've taken a lot from him. I've stolen a lot from him, I've stolen a lot from him, stylistically, while at the same time trying to maintain and stay who I was, but relationship-wise,

it's never been there. Hurtful to hear a great talk that way, or if there's no relationship? The only people who hurt me with their criticism are people whose opinions I respect, right? And so I don't know how any of that stuff lands. You're taking the high road. It's very kind of you, but does it hurt?

Or it's just sort of like, eh, whatever. People can say what they want. No, I mean, I think when I was younger, I think it did hurt, and I think I felt it a lot more. But as I got older, man, I just understood. I wasn't the only one. I'm not the only one that Floyd would take shots at or say different things about, you know, it's interesting.

The why is interesting. I've never had no history with Floyd. We don't have any off camera or offline issues. I've only respected Floyd. You know, I don't think Floyd can find somebody that said, oh, you know, we're talk bad about you. So I really I think that's that's the biggest thing is just what is. And I spoke about this in my book, just, you know, I said, man, that's something y'all got to, you know, the people got to ask Floyd Mayweather.

Floyd has never really embraced me as sort of one of his own. And I really don't know why. But the thing is this, like I said, when I was younger, you feel it because you look up to this person as a fighter. But when you become full grown and you become a man, you understand tendencies, you understand how a person, how their patterns are, you start to see, okay, this ain't just with me, this with other people, okay, in this situation, he tends to move like this. So I just, I let it be what it's gonna be. And you know me, man, I'm a praying man.

And I try to make sure that all my relationships are, are relationships God want me to be in. And I've learned that when a door seems shut, when there doesn't seem to be any synergy or don't seem like it's not, it's like a natural situation, I've learned to leave those relationships alone because they're not for me, for whatever reason. And I don't, you may not even know what those reasons are.

So I will always honor Floyd Mayweather for what he's done in the ring and how he prepared for fights, how he respected the game. He's given my generation and many generations so much inspiration seeing how he dealt with big moments in that ring. Some of the same media backlash that he got, I got, and a lot of other fighters got. And we pulled from Floyd to see how he dealt with certain things and how he navigated that. But there is a point where that respect stops, and I just live fluid be fluid. You are not a hater,

and you are also a lover of the art of boxing. How do you feel about the circus freak fights, like the Paul brothers or Jake Paul and Mike Tyson? You feel how about that? Man, it's tough. On one hand, for me, like, let me just start here. I look at Tyson and I look at his age and there's a part of me that doesn't appreciate that part because Mike could get hurt in that ring if they're truly going to be throwing

punches and trying to hurt each other. On the other hand, and I've said this before publicly, that there's another part of me selfishly that wants to see Mike out there that is interested in the spectacle and I want to see how it's going to turn out. But the better part of me is saying, bro, we need to make sure Mike is good, not because Mike ain't tough or can't defend himself. And if there's any man at that age that you probably don't want to worry about, it's Mike Tice. But the spectacle as a whole, a lot of people have an issue with Jake Paul, man.

I don't have an issue with what he's doing, man. Him and his brother Logan, they built up their fan base various ways throughout the year. If they are able to bring that fan base over here to boxing and sell out arenas and do some decent pay reviews and make some money, hey, man, that's their prerogative. Like, people say they're taking away from other fighters. No, they're not. The consumer can decide what they want to spend money on

and what they don't. And if fighters have a problem with it, then they just got to step their game. You got to figure out a way to sell yourself more. You got to figure out your niche. They found their niche in other places, and they brought that niche over here. The last thing I'll say about that is,

I respect, you know, what Jake is doing, because I know some of the circles that he runs in and some of the guys he's around and they're real boxing people. He's really in there getting the shiners on his eye, getting the black eyes, trying to learn to be a good fighter. And I respect that. He seems to be a hard worker and I respect that about him. Now, should he fight for a world title? No, I don't think that should be the case. I know that's what he wants to do and given how the sanctioning bodies do business, right? It's a business for them. Should he fight for a world title? Nah, I don't think that should be the case. I know that's what he wants to do. And given how the sanctioning bodies do business, right?

It's a business for them. I'm sure they'll try to find a way to make that happen. But he's not a world-class box, but his hustle and what he's doing, it's hard to knock it, man. He's earned the right to do what he did because he brought a fan base over here and they followed him in their pain. The Art Award is on YouTube and DraftKings network.

I'm surprised though, Andre, I feel like a fool. Everyone keeps talking about Mike Tyson might get hurt and I keep thinking Jake Paul might get hurt. Like if I, I would not want to fight you or Mike Tyson at 58 years old. Like I understand that Jake Paul is a professional fighter, but he ain't the professional fighter that you guys were in your prime.

He's just not. He's not. And I like Mike, and I'll share your sentiments early, right? If Mike catches you in the right spot at the right time, Mike will hurt you at 80 years old. So yes, I've considered that and I've thought about that. The problem is, as we all know, the age factor. And nobody escapes father time. And the body just doesn't work the same.

And I don't know if this fight kind of drags on. I don't know if this, what is it, eight rounds, two minute rounds or something like that, or are they doing three rounds, do you know? They've got all sorts of limits on it. I think the gloves are a little bit different. Are they doing head gear? Like there's some rules involved here

that you wouldn't normally get with your average. And yes, no one wants to see a 60 year old in the seventh round for sure. Like that's not something, there's no head gear, Chris. There are certain things that they're doing with this fight that are different. It's going to look a little different than the average fight.

Yeah, I haven't kept up with the rules, but I'll tell you this, the Mike Tyson that I saw fighting exhibition against Roy Jones, that was still a dangerous Mike Tyson. I felt like that was two of my uncles fighting at the barbecue. I love both guys, but I was nervous for both guys. I'm like, I don't hit Roy. I'm like, Roy, don't hit Mike. But Mike looked dangerous in there and Roy even talked about it. He said, man Roy, don't hit Mike. But Mike, Mike looked dangerous in there. And Roy even talked about it. He said, man, you guys keep talking about, um, um,

I know I think, uh, I don't know if Roy or Mike said it, but one of them said, man, you guys keep talking about this. My opponent getting hurt, but what about me? I think it may have been Mike. I think it may have been Mike, but Mike looked dangerous, man. If that, if that Mike can show up, man, it may get interesting early, but I get concerned about the age, man, the wear and tear and the miles on the old dominant man We're looking at no headgear 14 ounce gloves and eight two-minute rounds

Two minutes for you So it's gonna go quick, but you know, it is Still get spicy in a two minutes It's good seeing you. I'm sure the art of ward will also get spicy as I mentioned he is the chief content officer for the combat sports vertical that Matt Barnes and Steven Jackson and all the smoke are doing. Thank you Andre it's been a pleasure watching you and I look forward to seeing what it is that you make here over the next 10 years. Thank you brother appreciate you. Hey y'all it's Mike and as you know it is football season, the all consuming football

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oh irrational stugats how am i irrational did you not hear your voice there your voice Stugats! How am I irrational? Did you not hear your voice there? It's been a tough day for my boy, dude. Your voice... If I were making a cartoon thing that was meant to symbolize irrational, that's the voice I would give it. Entire premise.

This is the Don Lebathor show with the Stugats! I mean, did you have any reaction? We mentioned Jimmy Butler and his Netflix documentary series that Jimmy Butler is going to be a part of along with LeBron, Sabonis, Tatum, and Anthony Edwards. The report recently that the Golden State Warriors had been asking questions about trading for Jimmy Butler. What did you think of that? Because it would make sense if the Golden State Warriors are trying to get a player that is win now to try and see if the last embers of Steph and Draymond

can win something. Yeah, we talked about this on Oddball the other day. And this is a particular type of rumor that surfaces usually late September or whatever. It can happen any time of the year, but it happens a lot around this time of year, which is a rumor that is, I would say, factually reported, but not necessarily timely.

My belief is that whatever conversation that happened between the Warriors and the Heat happened months ago. And there is no active conversation at this point surrounding Jimmy Butler. Like they expressed interest and nothing came of it and we moved on, but because... You're saying you think that this happened like toward the end of the season? Or in the off season?

My guess is sometime prior to Clay Thompson joining the Mavericks. Because if you look at the books, the amount of stuff that the Warriors would have to put together in order to get a Jimmy Butler, it doesn't work as cleanly as it would have before Clay Thompson was signed and traded to Dallas. In the same way that Paul George,

the Warriors were in the Paul George hunt until they realized the Clippers were not going to play ball with them in any sort. So probably around the same time. Whenever it is that they were thinking about Paul George would have been about the same time that they were looking at a Plan B on Jimmy Butler. How do you imagine that that conversation

went with the Miami Heat though? Like what is it that you'd be trading back to them to get Jimmy Butler? Well, at that time, like I said, it probably would have been a multi-team sign and trade with Klay Thompson landing in Dallas and some other pieces moving around. Now, I don't know.

I mean, I guess you've got Buddy Heald, you've got D healed you've got D'antony Melton a couple other you got Jonathan coming obviously is is the crown jewel Of any deal for the with the Warriors, but Dan, I'm gonna be honest with you. I don't know if that makes either team better obviously Miami is left without a Real offensive dynamo. You don't think that would make the Warriors better? I don't know because this is the problem that I've had with the Warriors the last couple of years,

Dan, I don't think they're deep enough, right? I think Steph has to do too much, right? And you know, Clay obviously wasn't quite what he's been in the past, and Jordan Poole didn't turn out to be what they thought he was gonna be. So they didn't have that plet what they thought he was going to be. So they didn't have that plethora of depth.

They were relying on young guys who were very inconsistent the last couple of years. And what they did this all season, I really enjoyed what they did, was they went out and they said, look, we're going to go back to what helped us, which is getting our stars, some guys who know how to play. I don't have to worry about them developing. So you add Melton, you add Kyle Anderson, you add Buddy Heald. These are dudes that know what they're doing out there.

They're vets, they've been around the league. And now they've got some depth. If you have to add all those guys up, or, and I'm assuming the Warriors would not want Andrew Wiggins, because that does not strike me as Heat culture, right? If you add those guys up, that's what gets Jimmy Butler, who makes a shit ton of money,

but now you're left with the same problem. It's Steph, it's Jimmy Stramon, and a bunch of kids. And I don't think that gets them closer to the prize. And also, there's the issue of how much is Jimmy gonna want? Because any Jimmy Butler deal, any team, whether it's the issue of how much is Jimmy gonna want because any Jimmy Butler deal any Team whether it's the Miami Heat or any other team that's interested in acquiring them That's a conversation that's hurtling towards you and he's not thinking of himself as oh, I'll take 25 and go along my way He wants to get paid what he feels

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