The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 2: Joe Meatandpotatoes

Episode Date: October 30, 2023

Andrew Hawkins sticks around to share his thoughts on Halloween and why he's *always* in costumes. Dan, Hawk, Stugotz and the crew discuss Taylor Heinicke, Gardner Minshew, and the show's made up nicknames for athletes, the University of Houston jersey controversy, DeAndre Hopkins' resurgence, and Flavor Flav's National Anthem. Then, the show discusses the sexual assault lawsuit filed against Dwight Howard and the way it has been covered by people across the sports media landscape. Plus, Mike desperately tries to get the rest of the show into the NBA In-Season Tournament, and we learn about the state of "Sears" as a business. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

You're listening to Giraffe King's Network. This is the Dunlabel Tarshall with the Stugat Spatcast. Andrew Hawkins has been nice enough to come in here. He's very busy with Tomahawk. It's nice to hear them together. Joe Thomas, they've run into each other's loving embrace again. They brought back the original strong chemistry that those two have together as teammates in losing and teammates brothers forever, I would imagine, given the relationship that they have.

And perhaps one of the few people in football media that can step into the shoes of mean At times and cover at least some of the likeability aspects. Oh, I like that. I appreciate that Stugans was just making small talk with you and said what I do Do you have any Halloween plans and you said you've never done Halloween? Yeah, no never done Halloween Mom was a minister dad was a deacon. They just didn't get into the Halloween. So I never dressed up. And then as I got older, it felt like I'm like,

yeah, I don't want to do this. And so I just never, never really partook. Well, but then you said the thing I didn't know. Yeah. That part was one kind of interesting, but you're like, I love, I'm always in costume. I'm always in it. Yeah, I do a lot of skits as you guys may or may not have seen.

I do a mean Dennis Rodman for sure, that one viral a couple times. But so I have a bunch of random like just costumes and props at the house. And I recently bought a silicone muscle suit of around my skin tone for a shenan sharp. And I'm like, you know what, Shannon? ULK is, I wanna see what this becomes.

Yeah, this was not, this was expensive, finding a $400, yeah. And you're gonna do this correctly, right? You're going to look, you're going to look, you're going to look like Shannon Sharp. And because no one looks quite like Shannon Sharp in a suit, correct? No, no, so you have to get a muscle suit. There's no way not to get a muscle suit.

Even me, I'm like, I'm decently fit. It won't, it would not come through a shit and start without the muscle suit. Is there another signature to the costume, other than the $400 muscle suit? What else are you putting out of there? I gotta go to the sole patch, so I gotta get rid of the beard. That's an important aspect.

Slightly off center, sole patch. Is it slightly off center? It is. Okay, slightly off center. I gotta get the glasses. can you say skip skip skip Working on that the the voices that the very important part of it Have you tried it on yet? No, not yet And what are you about to unleash on the people with the certainly you have an idea in your head?

So that's where that that's where the creative juices get to come in you get you get the costume and then you let You let it speak to you a little bit because I would love to yeah to host a show on Monday morning With the fake shin and sharp and not even having seen what what the muscle suit looks like. Yeah, you're just already committed Yeah, I think it would be exhausting I think I think what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna recruit somebody to also place Divenay and so we might come do it here. We got a desk, we got cameras, we might just come shoot the skit. Right, but what is the idea? I'm sorry to say the time it is to have him do it every single week on a prank.

I want to sign a fake channel, but we had to. I want to throw a metal-lark resources behind the fake fake Shannon Sharp that Andrew Hawkins does not have I want to I want to build this story and I believe that your inspirations must be followed here. Why are you interested in loves costumes once you open this Pandora's Oh, I don't understand why anyone loves costumes. They're they. It's fun to imitate other people, number one. And I typically only do it for people that I enjoy. Like, it's like, I can't look away from these people. So that must mean everyone else feels that way. So then I'll typically figure out a way

to do a sketch around it. It'll be good. It'll be good. I'm gonna make sure we come in next week. Next week, okay. Next week, I want to interact with this character. We're developing. I did not know that people are so eager around here to get behind anything Heinecke is doing. What is the fascination with the green lizard? Look at how it makes my cry and smile. I don't understand.

This is from who's more popular? Minshu or Hanaki because there's reasons these guys aren't playing. That's easy, but easy. Yeah, cheating. I mean, the short shorts, the mustache, come on. But the real ones they know that Hanaki a backup in the XFL, the green lizard, as we like to call it, that's where the joy is. And he came in and he was solely betrayed by his receiver.

Has the nickname ever done more for a more average quarterback? Also, everyone gets so excited about Tyler Hanikki because he's called the green lizard. And that's not good. And I think that's just us. It certainly has to take it on. This is news to me.

I had no idea what his nickname was. Just man, man, that's used to call Hanikki as the green lizard. Yeah. Yeah. I don't think people are calling him the green lizard. We are. We are.

You know, it's taking off. No, here's the thing about Taylor. Why everyone loves the same people. He's the guy who readily admits during the off season. Hey, rather be back up. I'm good holding a clipboard. That can't be true. I don't think he said it.

Look at me. He said it. That's not true. Taylor, he is going to set the best job. It's for it. Not where is he going to find it? Best job. You look at our together.

Here, you have to the end of the second. You'll find it up for us. Dan, you know what we learned while you were in LA? Do you know? So I guess this is a nickname that the show just has from the no one else has for him. And we've just been using it as though it's a real thing. So we found out that Lando Norris, the race car driver,

it's the same thing. Baby Lando is not a nickname anyone calls this person other than Jess. So we have been here calling this person Baby Lando and it's just a pet name that Jess has come up with him. And like he was on the show and we were calling him Baby Lando and Mr. Baby. Just in your team embarrassed,

I haven't seen a lot of shame on you. I didn't realize that no one else knew that that was me infantilizing him and not something that everyone called him. We assume when you say something about that sport that that's the thing. That's right. That's right.

So that was just me doing a bit for myself, I guess. I was like, I was like, for several years, I'd wanted Jay Cutler's actual nicknames was Fat Elvis. And that's just something I called. They were calling him Mr. Baby to his face. Yeah, that happened. He didn't even correct them. Yeah, I called Dante D even Chinsa White Dante

to his face, not realizing that everybody wasn't calling a White Dante. That was only Bermani Jones. And I'm like, you didn't know that was your nickname. He was like, I've never heard that. I'm like, okay, sorry about that. You know any white Dante? Like, no, you followed up. You follow me. You're the first one I've ever met. You followed up. Deandre Hopkins, are you in any way surprised? All of a sudden you look up and and in the coolest uniforms I've ever seen.

The coolest I've ever seen. It shouldn't be allowed to have it. It shouldn't be allowed to have it. Turn your back on Houston. You saw the NCAA. They told Houston, the University of Houston, that they can't wear their oilers inspired uniforms. They put the caboch on that, but Adams who takes the Titans to Tennessee and rips all

its history with them. He gets the well that family now gets to trot out those sweet throwback uniforms and it should be a brown situation. Oilers history should have stayed in Houston. Thanks, though. Yes. No new team. I guess with the Texans. The Texans should assume Oilers history. I don't I don't know if I agree with that. Taylor Heineke. I understand it. Taylor Heineke being a backup in the NFL is probably one of the best jobs in America. How about at his right? That is not the same.

Where's the quote from? Like you said, a sentence. You just said Taylor Heineke said, I would rather be on the sideline. I never played an NFL game. Are you serious? Fox news. Do not. That's what it's right.

Yeah. Okay. Excellent work. I knew five minutes. Go send the penalty box for five minutes. What do you mean? It's right here goes in the Poundy box. They say in the article who the president is it's not what you said it was it's not what you said it was you lied fake news I

Know thing that's a real thing on the internet. What did you search? My phone Jess sent me a link? I don't think that's a real thing on the internet. What did you search? My phone Jess sent me a link Oh, Jessica go sit with him Everyone's passing the buck Jeremy who sent it to you Jeremy's not even here today. It's the ghost of Jeremy What happened with Will Levis and Deandre Hopkins yesterday where all of a sudden Deandre Hopkins is 50 yards down field I want to just tie that as well to what happened with Kyler Murray yesterday

where he's a healthy scratch from the game. That team at one point, it wasn't but like, I'm gonna say 20 games ago, they look like they might have, Arizona look like they might have been the best team in the league. I thought Deandre Hopkins, I thought he was done. What was that yesterday? I mean, I don't think he was done. What was that yesterday?

I mean, I don't think he was done. You know, when you get past, nobody wanted him. 30. Nobody wanted him in this office season. They didn't want him for the price that he's demanding. When you get past 30 in the league as a wide receiver, everybody wants, I don't want to call it a discount

because it's the fact of life. You're slowing down. You're not the same guy that you were at 25, 26, 22. And if you're still demanding those 26, 22. And if you're still demanding those prices, it's even if you can get it off now, like it's only a matter of time before someone says, I'm not paying that much money for a 33 Euro. I receive it because eventually it's going to be done. And I don't want to be left with the bill. And so that's what you saw with Deondre Hopkins lack of probably a lot of teens trying to get his services that amount. But

Deondre Hopkins still has a lot of ability Someone like Will Levis can bring it out because he has a rocket arm and I'm never dead if someone like Will Levis can Erad out as much as he can and that has been the special thing about Will Levis But what is he because we love doing this? I I've made the argument for a long time now that almost anybody in that league can go in there and be 20 of 30 in one game at the quarterback position, you know, complete 66% of their passes and not throw anything down field. That's not what that was yesterday.

No, that was Will Levis putting on display the thing he does really well. The reason why there was an infatuation with him going into the draft is because, you know, he looks like Tarzan, he can throw the ball quarter mile. You look at his resume and you say, I don't know, it doesn't really quite match that of a first round or someone who's leading a franchise, but you can't help but see the way he hits an out route from the opposite hash with that ball and his zip and the tightest spiral you've ever seen. And so, yesterday, a player comes in with no prior film, that a defense can't say we know what you like to do and don't like to do, and he does exactly what he's good at,

which is air it out. And Deandre Hopkins was an incredible receiver is making those plays down the field. Now, can he do it again next week? And continue to do it is the biggest question because you see a lot of quarterbacks coming and have success because there's no film on you. We haven't seen you, we weren't prepared for you. And I think that also had something to do it is the biggest question because you see a lot of quarterbacks coming and have success Because there's no film on you. We haven't seen you we weren't prepared for you And I think that also had something to do with the success they had on Sunday

Have you seen any of the video coming out of Milwaukee bucks pregame where flavor Flav is singing the national anthem? Have you seen this? I see some clips on Twitter. What do you think of this as an idea? If I just tell you, if marketing comes to you and says, flavor-flaved wants to sing the anthem? It's genius marketing because you will be everywhere. Bad is the new good. Bad is the new good. Attention.

It's hard to bubble up. All right, let's play some of that for the people. Let's hear it. Oh, oh, say. I'm gonna turn it off. That's it. Oh, oh, oh, say. I'm gonna turn it off. That's it? That's, I'm good. That was all I needed to hear.

Oh, oh, oh. I'm glad that he tried seriously to do this, but you're opening yourself up to all sorts of... You're disrespecting the... You know? Who sung the National Anthem? Also, it was Hatzog. Fergie.

If I had to take my hat off at a sporting event. All the fade. Play the play to if I have to take my hat off at a Sala babe play the play of as to take his hat off at a sporting event was it a player Fergie had a popular one at an all-star game one year where she did her own rendition and it was Yeah, that was the call Lewis as well Carl Lewis I wish you do got to see if you can do a top five worst national anthems, but we have our hats off The Marcus where was it for you to the whole thing? That's who it was. The Marcus where is he wasn't.

But then it was like you're doing it for a friend that passed away and we couldn't criticize it a little bit. But I feel like it's been six months. No, we're good. No, we're good. Are we good now? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no We're ending to the segment and throwing that out. 10 seconds. Thank you, Millie. Also wearing sunglasses. Disrespecting the eloquent, whatever, whatever. In the clock. In the clock. In the clock.

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I came in today Stugats and I asked Mike Ryan. Did anyone around here talk about Dwight Howard while we were in Los Angeles? And Mike Ryan? I knew. Mike Ryan stared at me and said, so you're asking, did Stugots talk about Dwight Howard? Cannonball! I don't believe we have seen anything like this in major American sports before. I remember a long time ago stugots that I thought in football for example it wasn't

even that long ago to be honest. I thought in football for example it wasn't even that long ago to be honest. I thought in football we would never see a gay player. We would never see it in my lifetime. And things have changed throughout sports, but they haven't changed so much that what has happened with Dwight Howard is something that can happen quietly or not covered well or not talked about because we've never had a player of his caliber come out and sort of come out. He has not come out. No, no, but sort of come out by... He hasn't come out and it should be said because we've already gone too far

without addressing this, that all these details, and there have always been online, there's been an online conjecture about Dwight in the past, and what came out now was a sexual assault allegation that someone was unwillingly a part of something that moved them to file a complaint against White Howard. And in all the coverage, I know he went on Sirius XM and they asked him directly about it. And he's in line with his personality on social media, saying things like, where I lay my wood is my business. And to that degree in terms of where it comes to who decides to spend his time with. He's absolutely right. I understand why it's interesting. But in all of this,

people seem to just be glossing over the sexual assault allegation. Well, but when you say where I put my word, where I put my wood is my business right up until there is a lawsuit and it's making its way through legal ramifications that now make it so he feels the need to address it in his own voice to God with a reaction that while right is a surprising reaction. It's not something that you have seen before where he is correct. Stop gossiping about my personal life, stop gossiping about my bedroom. Yes, that would all be better if we were to do that, but we're not talking about Dwight Howard right now for any other reason, other than what the details are

in that lawsuit. I know, I also think it would be discussed differently if he came out and denied everything about it, but his argument was not what happened was consensual. I don't think it would be, I don't think it would be discussed necessarily in the mainstream if he came out and was denying it, but the way that he has approached it has now made it something that everyone is talking about even more than I would say the initial details, which are the ones that had everyone clocking because the, in the lawsuit the details

are of a man dressed as a woman named Kitty and some of the details that are that make people be surprised to not deny it and come out after a lawsuit is in play and say it is none of your business where I lay my wood he can be right and also be someone who's responding in a way that's surprising. I'm telling you, out of all the things that I've experienced to why Howard related, no one is covering the assault, the alleged assault. No one. No, not the way that first take approached it. And keep in mind, basketball, Twitter, while the nation has come further along, basketball,

Twitter seems to be stuck in a bit of an arrested development when it comes to these things. And no, there's like a side show attraction to this thing. There's a gacha element to this thing. But he's better off, Mike, leaning, and if he's not dealing with marketing people or the economy around Dwight Howard, but he's better off putting flares over here and saying, it's none of your business where I lay my wood than actually talking about the sexual assault that is the reason all of this is in front of us. Like that is an imposing man. And when the details in the reports of the lawsuit are, I will do whatever I want to you

and you will like it. He's over here denying it in a way that's not denying it, but just talking in a way that's awfully comfortable with the subject matter. Yeah, but just talking in a way that's awfully comfortable with the subject matter. Yeah, but still got to be denied into the proper authority. But what he sounds like is it's more offensive to him to be in his business, in his bedroom,

than it is to be a sexual assaultor, which is the reason this is all out in front of us. And I think you're articulating one of the more difficult parts about discussing this story, which is among sports fans, the bigger offense might be what, wait, what do you feel about your love life? What were your deeper passions? I mean, given the recent, very recent history on how both have been handled in mainstream sports,

I don't think that should come as a surprise. I don't think that these details can come across anybody's computer knowing what they know about Dwight Howard and for the details not to matter. You can laugh at Dwight Howard all that you want, but of course there's going to be more laughter here than there is going to be sexual assault. But this man is an enormously strong physical man. And sexual assault in this realm is not something we've talked about in sports. Like this is not a conversation we've had

because this has always been in the shadows, whispered, rumors, nobody talks about it. No, but this is something that exists on the internet. I haven't seen them be asked about the sexual assault. I haven't, which goes to my problem with how this is covered. It's not about that. It's not what he's addressing on social media.

Our address is in a role play. He's in about the sexual assault. What is being asked about on serious sex, M.J.45, is not about sexual assault. What do you feel? What do you feel the need to defend is not the crime? Well, didn't he, he denied that to the proper authorities and publicly he's just saying with this other thing

That's none of your business. He's also to what Mike is saying not being asked about the crime The so he's not gonna defend it. He's not being asked about it the interest from sports fans and and a segment of a basketball fans is not The sexual assault allocation It's not what Dan is saying. It should be I you're assault allegation. It's not. But Dan is saying it should be. Are you agree? No, but wait a minute. Hold on a second. It should be in some, yeah, morally cleans utopian place where we all know how to talk about this stuff correctly. Yes, it should be, but I'm unsurprised that these particular details, salacious as they are about this person. Like, again, I told you Stugat's,

about this person. Like again, I told you Stugat, my ex-girlfriend was in a locker room. I was outside, I'm sorry, not in a locker room, outside a locker room, and I was talking to Stan Van Gundy, and I saw over my shoulder that my ex-girlfriend brightened from whatever was smiling behind me, and it was Dwight Howard shirtless half of him coming out of the locker room as masculine as anyone you've seen physically. That person with these details. Yeah, I you're also I would say as fit as anyone not as masculine. Yeah, you're conflating a lot of different things and you're I understand why you're doing it because he's a giant and a nightmare scenario in which there is a alleged victim here trying to fight that off.

I understand why you're doing it, but sexual is all the matter of your seven footer. And you're, I think you're highlighting that in ways that you probably, you probably should it. Because it could come from someone that's, you know, 5 foot six. That is correct, but I'm just talking about all of it, the way that it's being received from everybody, specifically because it's a man who was stronger

than the other men in the NBA. I'm not talking about the sexual assault part of it. I'm talking about the parts that everyone is clucking about that isn't the sexual assault part of it, which is the details that are out there, which people are finding, he's finding invasive correctly, but it's the reason everyone's talking about this. It's not just that he's gay,

it's the details in that lawsuit. It's not, I think you're reacting to the reaction, which from my vantage point has just been homophobic. And I don't know why that's something that we ourselves need to enter into the conversation. Like there's these really tricky topics I understand about sexual assault and power dynamics and all of sexuality in a sport that has overwhelmingly not dealt with it well, but I don't think that we need to inject that into the conversation ourselves.

And so where do we take it after that? He's been accused of sexual assault. It's incredibly serious. And I think that as long as we have these details and we know what we know, that is what we should be focused on, not his perceived sexuality or any of these other things that people have just been laughing about on the internet. Or people like Stephen A. Smith have been laughing about on their podcasts that have major platforms. Isn't that where the disconnect is though

between how it is that people talk about this stuff and where it is that we invade your privacy where Dwight how we can all sit here all of us can listening this could say that the rest of america shouldn't be in our bedrooms that that privacy if you're accused of sexual assault there's been an alleged crime committed so your perceived privacy goes out the window. Now we can read about what this person says happened. Usher's privacy went out the window the second that there were those allegations that were made public.

The defense something similar. It enters a pop culture conversation with portions, especially when you're considering sports fans, then aren't getting the HR annual video when it comes to how you behave in these instances. For me, the headline is the alleged sexual assault. Everything else, while it's interesting that a Hall of Fame caliber player,

such as Dwight Howard, when you've had Collins here and you've had past rushing specialists in the NFL, you haven't had a huge marquee name because he is still active being gay. I think certainly I've come across, I mean, openly gay. I certainly have come a lot further in the last 20 years

where I'm not at all interested in that and where the reaction to it kind of makes me take a step back and go, oh, ew. Yeah, like on major platforms, just just mentioned top-of-line industry types that are navigating this well. So no, I'm not surprised it's you got to sit and tackle it. This is what?

The, to me, the part, I spoke to a boat captain. And it's the right call. I think it's the right call, especially considering how this goes because you keep going to how big he is. And I do think I would like to dissect the reaction to it among sports fans, but there is a lot there. There's a lot to dissect there.

Dicec, dissect there. And it's not necessarily fun to do. I find the crossroads of it super fascinating, which is the way this is being talked about buries the sexual assault. The way the reaction, I know you're getting on me for inflaming the reaction, but the reaction has been louder to anything that you find around the sexual assault. Yeah, I also think that like treating this like a curiosity certainly doesn't do anything for the victim in the case.

But we're there whether we think that or not. Like that, it's not gonna stop us. Us not talking about it, isn't going to stop anybody else from not talking about it. It's just going to be, we didn't talk about it. Like, and we know when talking about an alleged victim. When you see what he did with serious XM, and you see like the way where a person feels comfortable

straight up asking, you're okay? Like first question, him being forced to answer that, there is an alleged victim here that everyone's ignoring. Don Lebertard, Raven's good, double up the call, and they are good against every team except the Steelers. I mean, so that's a 14 point win there for the Raven. Yeah.

Double up, two touchdowns. Spugots. I think double up is a score. Like if the Colt have 10 and you double them up, you scored 20. I don't think double up. That's what you do when I do it differently. Okay, but I don't think that double them up.

Like you explained it to me as if I was supposed to. I have my way. I understand, but that's not technically doubling up. Like I think you use the phrase wrong or something happened. Double-lup plus four. Yes. Exactly. Okay, that's what he meant, of course. He touched out.

You never cease to amaze me. He's amazing. He really is. He's breath-taking in his stupidity. This is the Dalébatá show with Estugats. Don't sound like a European sports star. Don't sound like a European sports star. Don't sound like a European sports star. I love the NBA's in season tournament. I love it all.

I love that there is a second trophy. I love that a European influence that's making its way to the States. I love that the NBA is forcing it down your throat and American sports fans are doing the Sukkatsung if we didn't ask for any of this. I don't know if you guys have seen the lengths that the MBA is going to to make sure you think that this thing matters. But they have announced specially designed

courts for the MBAs in season tournament. Every team's home court will look the part. We have a couple examples that will throw up on our video now. You can check out all the shows, full shows and full video on DK's DKN, a fast channel. And on our YouTube page, youtube.com slash ad levitard show. Right now you see a fully red court with a brand new trophy, which I happen to like. I think it's a great trophy of the NBA season tournament. And this is goes for every team. The Lakers have especially a design one and nobody likes this. Nobody wants this.

Nobody really understands why the NBA in season tournament games for the most part count against your regular season standings. No one likes it and I'm telling you, there is going to be one fan base in the end. That is going to love it, because they will hype themselves into thinking this matters,

and this is how you do it. Why are we making special points? Why don't fans like this, so it's not like it's extra games. It's just replacing regular season games a little more meaning, making them matter. I'm going to like you when you don't could Damien Lillard. That's true. Mike, they do matter. There's 82 games, each one matters.

Right, but you're seating in the post. Right, but this also is going to be an issue when Jimmy Butler is sitting out most of these games or, you know, LeBron James decides, you know what, quarter finals, I don't really care about. Exactly. No, no, no, he plays every Sunday night. Yeah, the players are going to matter. But it's not really an issue. Don't sound like a European sports knob.

It's not an issue when other trophies in Europe and other competitions go on simultaneously as a regular season. And big clubs decide we're going to rotate our squad for this. That's part of the fun. I think at all of this, part of the fun is, maybe the Sacramento Kings, actually,

they're pretty good right now. Maybe the Washington Wizards can catch a team sleeping, not taking it seriously. And you can have a Ragtag group of professionals that decide this thing is going to matter to them. And there will be a banner to... No, there will. There will be a banner if you win this.

Isn't there money involved too? There's money involved, which is great for the players, but ultimately it's a trophy. It's an opportunity for another team to come away feeling good about their season. And in the all-in way of American sports, God, I'm not doing a good job of helping myself. No, you know.

This is great to have someone explain, no, the season wasn't a failure. We won the in season tournament. I feel like a bad team winning the in season tournament is not going to get Stugots interested. Like, you need to have one of the good teams. I'm with you, Mike. I agree that it's fun to see the bobcats,

not in the bobcats. You want to know what's fun with the tournament? Chris, let me tell you what's fun. Hoisting the Larry O'Brien trophy in June. That's what's fun. These are fake trophies, fake banners, fake chords, fake tournament, deep in the cereal fire. No, I will not.

I will not. Who certainly will. I will. This is coming from the inner Miami fan who won the in-season tournament and now is gonna be in the business. Oh, I made up. I already missed the analyst playoffs.

I am. Yeah, yeah. I made two in the same place. But they won a trophy. Please cup. I need to explain to the audience just how much of Stugats' sports soul is dead. You can present him with nothing new in sports, nothing

that Stugats will not react to, don't care, no one cares, not caring. The red zone was the last thing he accepted. He does not like change and this tournament to me is only interesting because the NBA has now resorted to we know our regular season games don't matter. Let me pay you extra to try. Let me pay you extra to care.

Because we're not paying you enough. Let me pay you extra to care. Let me pay you extra to play playoff games and treat these like playoff games because we're giving you an extra million dollars. I feel for the people who have to set up this court. It just seems unnecessary. They set up the court. Well, they do it like daily anyway.

The current court is fine. I'm with you. I hate when I hate painted courts. I just want wood grain. Just give me wood grain, not gray, not teal, not purple, no trees in the background, just wood grain. Okay, these courts are a bit garish. I get that.

They could have made it a different court and not made it. Someone from Miami calling it garish. That's when you know. It's a lot. It's a lot. And when you're already having a difficult time selling this to sports fans, putting this in their face,

these courts, if you can show me just the heat one, there's a really bad sun's one too. But it's a lot, if you're experiencing it, if you're experiencing it, if you're experiencing it, if you're experiencing it, if you're experiencing it, if you're experiencing it,

if you're experiencing it, if you're experiencing it, if you're experiencing it, if you're experiencing it, if you're experiencing it, if you're experiencing it, if you're experiencing it, if you're experiencing it,

if you're experiencing it, if you're experiencing it, if you're experiencing it, if you're experiencing it, if you're experiencing it, if you're experiencing it, if you're experiencing it, if you're experiencing it, if you're experiencing it, if you're experiencing it, if you're experiencing it, if you're experiencing it, if you're experiencing it, if you're experiencing it, if you're experiencing it, if you're experiencing it, $3 million. Don't you like that they're trying something different? No. Yes. I like that the trophy is half a basketball. Mike could put something in it. Maybe like eat cereal. You say you say trying something different, Mike. And like the finals aren't the finals in Vegas. It's going to be fun to attend. I think it's going to be a fun festival of the sport. You say trying something different. And I check in with the pregame show last night on Sunday night football and Rodney Harris and Tony Dungee and Jason Garrett. What was your favorite bit of analysis in Jack Collins? I've gotten nothing. Jack O in the last seven years of that.

Tony Dungee didn't say something that really resonated with you? People don't like change, man. They like the comfort of everything just staying the same. How many people do you find complaining about Tony Dungee and Rodney Harrison and Jason Garrett? I think we pass a tipping point on that. Come like year 13. We're like, okay, he's just not going to say anything. Right. Dan, you're wrong about me.

We're on a game fans on game days. If you don't think people will complain about Jason. And you're wrong about me because I do love new things. I love Thursday night football. I love Friday night football. I love when we get to regular season Saturday game, Saturday football. I don't like the brown playing on Sundays, but I like football on Sundays. What is the more unnatural smile?

Jason Garrett or Ron DeSantis? Put it on the pole, please, Jude. At Levitard show. Jason Garrett has always looked likeantis. Put it on the pole, please, Juju at Levitard show. Jason Garrett has always looked like a mannequin at Sears. It's a great question. And he's smiling like when other people are talking, which is what you're supposed to do on studio television, but it's just unsettling.

Someone should give him the note, stop doing that. There's no such thing as Sears anymore, correct? There's like a Sears on our own. Yeah. How many Sears are there? Oh, I'm tall Sears is killing They're can't be there's one on Coral Way They don't even call the sears tower anymore in Chicago now. It's the Willis tower

I'd like to know right right aid went bankrupt the other day. That was another fallen giant as sears gone totally back 12 sear stores. Yep 12 locations and eight states, but you can't buy a house out of a catalog anymore, right? Put it on the pole, please, Juju. I can't, yeah. Can you buy a house out of a catalog anymore? There's catalog. Florida is tied with California for most sears. And what do they sell at sears, though?

Can I get a Jason Garrett mannequin at sears? What do you want? I want Jason Garrett mannequin. You can get it. Are you sure? Yeah. It Sears still selling clothes because you guys said tower and auto parts.

And there's Sears. Sears is still out here in the retail clothes market. Yeah. A appliances is their big $36.55 Southwest 22nd Street Miami Florida 33145 if you want to go today, Dan. $642 million in sales last year. Closes at six, which can't be good for business. That's in sales.

Would love to see busts open their books, Dan. Oh, it's sales at 6. Look at sales at 6. See how much money in there. No, they're seeing, when you put it that way, Sarah seems very healthy. It's a shock that they only have 12 locations. They're killing it.

If it's $680 million for just 12 locations, but how is it possible that seers would be killing it in clothing when i'm walking past a jason garret mannequin you think roe buck was pissed oh my god simmering uh... hatred uh... in the shadows that sears is still out here fighting in roe buck is fallen by the way side i found a pizza maker on sears really put it on the pole please to do is ro also. Dude, you is Robuck embittered. Is Robuck insane with jealousy at sears? Sears brand shoes? Is that what this is?

They're good shoes there. They cannot be good shoes. No, they are. Billy, Billy, you cannot tell me, you cannot make the argument on behalf of sears shoes being good. I will not allow it. I hate to break it to you. And pay less shoes.

Pay less shoes, RIP. Yeah, I always use to say it. No, I got the new Shaxx. Ignore the big Warner Brothers logo on the shoe top. Oh, they filed for chapter 11 bankruptcy last year, and they're going to liquidate and permanently close all their shops. So maybe hold out just one or two more years

on the Jason Garamannikin, and we can get a killer deal. Stock up on your shoes now. You could go with coals, I think, for the analogy. Oh, yeah, cold bucks. Stugots found on the internet using it, craftily as he always does, that Sears was indeed killing it.

What he could not find is Sears has gone bankrupt and all 12 of their locations will be gone shortly. I found that they actually sold Jordans. There's another side to the store, but appropriately, they only sell mids Still got I just look at revenue You do it's about all you do is say whatever it is I've said the opposite like it's this website the shoe where it's like If you've ever seen a dad at Disney World

This is this is every dad at Disney World. It's been... This is every data Disney World stream. It's great. Aren't you frequently a data Disney World? With way nice shoes. Billy, what are the most expensive shoes that one can presently purchase at Crasmin Dan? Right now, like a Crasmin Dan. Oh, Crasmin Dan, that's where you get your screwdriver. So that's a Sears.

Need a new toolbox. You get one now. I don't want to talk about tools. I want to talk about the NBA in season turn. There discount shoes and Rodney Harris and Tony Dungee and Jason Garrett saying nothing for 10 years on your television. Don't you find it really frustrating?

I know you do and maybe sports fans, I got a lot of like my meat and potatoes and my sports and being the way that it is And all that I get is that guy Joe's Joe mean potato Say $4 on LA gear Britis nights I like this character make your free throws Joe

Bad call raf you know Joe meat potatoes is the character that I want Bad call, you know, Joe meat potatoes is the character that I want to ball in games, I'm two hands, you know, hard tight. Clear the clear the neutral zone. What is the offside? No, no, that's not your sportsman. But don't you want to celebrate someone trying something different? And if it's a failure, maybe we'll laugh at it. And yeah, the courts kind of are a lot to deal with. But this, can we just take a wait and see approach? This is exciting that a league and

a brand that is strong in the NBA feels compelled to try something new. Like we do not wait and see anymore on criticizing and laughing. Like that social media exists for that. I'll wait and see who wins in June. There's no, there's no wait and see here that social media exists for that all wait and see who wins in June There's no there's no wait and see here that people imagine if it's a team that won the in season tournament Then they're going for a double When you say that people are quick to quicker to laugh and criticize something than they've ever been Because get to the jokes get to the jokes as fast as you can people are mean and they're naturally predisposed to say I don't like it, but they also won't watch I'm looking at you see gots. I'm looking at shoes right now

It's sears 220 dollars for Timberland. I mean I don't mean and they're naturally predisposed to say, I don't like it, but they also won't watch. I'm looking at you, Sue Gatz. I'm looking at shoes right now. It's Sears, $220 for Timberland, so me.