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This is the Don Leventor Show with the StuGuts Podcast. I want to talk for a second about something Aaron Rodgers related here.
That I was laughing because the other day Mina Kimes was sort of dragged away from Aaron Rodgers has spoken on Pat McAfee and retired quarterback who's not retired, who is not that wanted and not that good anymore trying to make a decision on
Lot of bad offers and maybe one in Pittsburgh
But not one in Minnesota the free agency of Aaron Rodgers who would play if
Somebody appeared with a job offer that made him feel like a good quarterback
But instead he is only in the news to continually make news. Mina Kimes was pulled away from the conversation we were having to react to the breaking news
of Aaron Rodgers' speaking and has done it so many times that she is made weary by there
is no new ground to be covered here.
He was bad at playing quarterback last year and now he's not terribly wanted, but he's
famous and he's infamous and this ending is going to be intriguing if unwanted.
And so now Aaron Rodgers exists basically as to just be something that is the last embers
of what kind of conversation can we make around old, famous, tired quarterback.
I think he's going to retire.
I don't think he's playing anymore.
I think he's gonna retire, and I think stringing it out
like this works in his favor where he can make it sound
like I decided I don't wanna play football anymore.
Like he said with the Jets, the Jets asked,
do you wanna play football?
He said, I'm interested.
And now he doesn't know because he's got things going on
in his personal life, that's why there's no timetable
with the Pittsburgh Steelers
I think he's going to eventually make it sound like not that he was pushed out
But he ultimately decided heads not in anymore. I think he's a retire
I found his quotes on his ending with the New York Jets to be pretty fascinating and like
Is usually the case when he joins Pat McAfee, totally lacking in self awareness.
He took exception to being flown in across the country.
On his own dime.
To meet with Aaron Glenn and have Aaron Glenn
not waste his time.
Like Aaron Glenn just said, hang on one second,
let me go bring the GM in here.
Well he made it sound like they were mid conversation and Aaron Glenn ran out. And he's like, let me go bring the GM in here. Well, he made it sound like they were mid conversation
and Aaron Glenn ran out.
And he's like, let me get there GM.
Look, Aaron, our plan here is to not bring you back.
Now, it's weird that Aaron Rodgers of all people
takes exception to, this could have been an email.
Considering how much he likes to draw things out,
I imagine he was stunned
that not everybody else operates that way.
And I would get it, Aaron, if this were Green Bay.
But to Aaron Glenn, you're Tim Boyle.
You're very clearly not a part of their plans.
If anything, they did you a great service, so you can draw this out however long you want.
They didn't waste any of your time.
I found it to be very weird to have it...
Like, it sounded like he was taking a shot at Aaron Glenn for how
Aaron Glenn treated him. Oh, yeah nothing. He was very disrespectful
To me was the attack that he took the Jets owe him nothing
Aaron Glenn owes him less than nothing and by the way if this took place over a phone call
You know
Aaron Rodgers would have said you didn't even have the guts to tell me face to face.
Let me take up the other position though here,
because I do understand how it is that Aaron Rodgers
would receive all of that coldly,
and you guys saying, he owes them nothing,
they owe him nothing, he gave two years
at the end of his career to that franchise and
thought he did so with all of the power in the world. That he would not be disabused
in those two years, you don't have that power anymore, you deserve the respect of this meeting
to be more human. I understand why he would crave a two hour conversation, a human connection,
but you guys are saying, nope, at the end this is how cold employment gets. We just sever our ties and in this instance it's
interesting for to hear Aaron Rodgers plead for humanity and respect. He's
asking, he's feeling that's all disrespectful in its coldness. It sounds
like he was craving a preamble. Like he didn't like what he was being told and
then took exception to how quick it was
Zazz is on the money
He would have been insulted if they didn't bring him in for this meeting and he would have made a whole deal of it
He just didn't like the breakup
But it's a weird it's a weird fixation that he has with drawing things out
Like they they know that about you
They actually made this super efficient so you can take all the time that you want.
And also a little awareness that this didn't work out
the way that anybody wanted, not you, not them in New York.
And this is how a breakup happens.
You guys don't find it funny though
that basically all that's actually happening here at the end
is that giant legend, Aaron Rodgers, or Packer that giant legend Aaron Rodgers or Packers legend
Aaron Rodgers just wanted a hug at the end. It wouldn't have just been about a
hug he would have found something else to complain about it's just he I
understand why he feels like his time is wasted but it's just a weird messenger
from a guy that's been wasting our time now for he's doing the far thing over and over again
Will he or won't he only he doesn't have the suitors?
I'm at the point where my eyes just gloss over when I see any bit of text written about Aaron Rodgers
I just like I don't care. I don't want to cover everything
He says like it's news anymore and my eyes just gloss over and I'm like I just play don't play I don't care let me know in September what
team he's on. I think you speak for everybody there and and and it was just
weird that I've seen the career arc of Mina Kimes once upon a time Aaron
Rogers showed up at her apartment to do a magazine profile because he wanted to
be seen by the world to Mina Kimes is now on celebrity jeopardy saying
Scared money don't make money and saying I don't want to talk about Aaron Rodgers anymore that became boring two years ago
Like let's let's let's talk about the quarterbacks who were good last year
Let's talk about the quarterbacks who weren't all in the 20s and what the advanced metrics are for me
It's the respect part that I think stands out the most like wouldn't you quantify the way?
His relationship at least publicly with Robert Salah was was pretty respect part that I think stands out the most. Like wouldn't you quantify the way his relationship,
at least publicly with Robert Solowos,
was pretty disrespectful?
That to me is what I'm seizing on here.
It's a weird message coming from Aaron Rodgers.
Like often, he exposes his own hypocrisies,
and that's fine, we can be hypocritical people,
but at least have the self-awareness here
that they are very clearly starting a
new chapter.
Okay, but can you just allow this one thing, right?
I don't know how people become egomaniacs.
I don't know what it is to be as great at anything as Aaron Rodgers was at quarterback.
But if he still thinks that he is a talent to be respected throughout that sport for
having a mastery of that position
that very few have ever had.
My guess is I understand why he would have blind spots
where his arrogance is about,
I'm the greatest, treat me like I'm the greatest.
Well, the market's not treating him like that.
Understood, but do you understand
how he arrives at the blind spot when?
Well, I know how he became an egomaniac
and kept finding out algorithms
that just fortified his own beliefs.
Like I read a book on the guy with my ears.
Like I understand how this came to be,
but I don't like it.
And I really take exception to it
when you start taking shots at people
because like he, on his way out the door,
he wanted to make one more mess for the Jets
and say, the guy that you hired,
he's not a good people person.
This is how he treated me, like,
dude, it didn't work out.
They did you a great service
by telling you directly to your face,
your future's not with us anymore,
for you to still be taking pot shots.
Out of what will, history will reflect
on your time over there with the New York Jets
as one of the biggest sporting disasters of all time.
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May I just add, it will not go down
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Billy, it's fast and furious Billy. It's Carlitos way Billy. It's Andy loves baseball and it's bad Monkey Billy. It's John Ortiz.
Are you excited?
Fast and the Furious.
I figured you'd be sniffing around this one.
I'm so excited.
It's great to see you, John Ortiz.
How are you?
It is great to see you guys.
This is amazing.
I'm like completely like a kid in a candy shop in here,
watching you guys and hearing you guys.
What piece of candy am I?
You are a Jolly Rancher.
Wow, good guess. I would have gone candy corn. I would have gone...
That's not nice, Dan.
What do you mean it's not nice?
That's terrible candy.
That's a color thing?
I like candy corn.
Why don't you do Roy next?
But a lot of people hate candy corn.
But I love candy corn. But you know what you're doing. Yeah, I'm just trying to get it
I'm just collecting data here do Roy next please don't do Roy John. How do you feel about?
Candy corn candy corn on a scale of one to ten. It's about a one point eight Wow
John when you did bad monkey, and thank you for joining us, I want to
talk about this dream project that you're presently doing, because I did not
know that you were a baseball fan, but I enjoyed Bad Monkey for a number of
reasons. One of them because you guys really honored Carl Hyason, and because
you really honored Miami and Key West, and I've rarely seen anything on
television that had that kind of touch
on things.
So thank you for making it.
But what was your experience with making it?
I loved making that show.
It's so great.
It really was an experience that's right up there with all the best ones I've had and
I've had a few. You know, I think it's challenging to shoot in Miami
in the middle of the summer.
That is correct.
It's challenging to do just about anything outdoors
in Miami in the middle of the summer.
But shooting a series, you know,
when you work in the 12, 16 hours a day, it gets on you, you know, so, but we shot the entire series, when you're working 12, 16 hours a day, it gets on you.
We shot the entire series, including the interiors there.
Carl's stories and books are also very challenging to capture. So I honestly didn't know how it was gonna all come together
because of the tone that's kind of nuanced and just tricky. It's funny, but there's serious
undertones in there and it's so geographic heavy.
And when it all came together, I was really pleasantly surprised.
And then the audiences loved it as much as they did,
was just a cherry on top.
You've done so much work, so much award-winning work.
When I present you with American Fiction,
Silver Linings Playbook,
when I put your history in front of you,
is there something that you thought while you were making it that was going to stink,
and then you couldn't believe how it came together because you doubted it throughout?
Not necessarily I doubted it, but I just didn't know, kind of like Bad Monkey, how it was going to
come out, because we were doing so many different takes,
we were just going for stuff without too much thought, we just trusted whatever was put
in front of us.
So Bad Monkey and the second one that's right up there and they're similar in the way we
attacked it was Silver Linings playbook.
We just, I had no idea. I knew we had a great time doing it. We believed in
everything that we were doing, but in terms of what the hell is this gonna
feel like or look like, I had no idea. We had David O Russell just behind a camera
just throwing lines out at us and
we would just say them.
And then Fast and Furious I like actually you know the first time I was offered the
role I turned it down.
Well if you recall that's the first time in four was when Vin Diesel and Paul Walker
were going to come back.
So Tokyo Drift, they weren't in.
And it wasn't that much of a hit.
And I had just done Miami Vice, another 305 plug.
And the roles were similar.
So I said, nah. And I was convinced to do it,
and that was a shocker that it was that big of a hit.
Billy, what are you shaking your head about?
Tokyo Drift was not that important.
Some would argue Tokyo Drift holds the entire framework
of the franchise together.
There are so many plot points that go through Tokyo Drift,
and then you look at the different timelines
You sound like a fool. I don't think you know what the John John you sound like a fool
You don't understand what you're talking about you disrespect
Well, I tell you I I didn't say it wasn't
Important I just said it wasn't that big of a hit Yeah, who do you with, the Rock or Vin Diesel in this feud that was going on?
You were there, you probably got to know both of them.
Whose side were you on?
Thankfully I wasn't there.
So I plead the fifth on that one.
All right, that stinks because we needed to know
what the truth was there.
John, you're in the opening scene of Carlito's Way,
which is really one of my all-time favorite
movie scenes in the billiard room with the drug dealers.
What do you remember about filming that scene?
Oh my God.
You know, first of all, that was my first movie ever.
So as you can probably imagine, I was nervous as hell.
And right before the very first take of that scene, we were shooting it in a studio,
so we were outside the door, you know, the entrance, which wasn't real, you know, it was built.
And so we're like halfway in a club and halfway in just a makeshift
in a club and halfway in just a makeshift space.
And I'm trying to be serious actor because I'm right next to the legend Al Pacino.
And lo and behold, he's chit chatting me.
And I'm like, this guy, I can't believe it.
I was just like so surprised
that he would just be talking about whatever
as we're preparing to get in
Yeah, I stole it from the earlier segment
Stole the chit chat from you were listening to the boost mobile hotline
I love the boost mobile hotline that thing was just so entertaining. I was just like give me more
And now I'm just obsessed with chit.
Anyway, so we're hanging out,
which seems like forever,
but it's really like three minutes, right?
Before they get the cameras going and waiting for action.
Very first action I hear ever professionally
from Brian DePalma. I'm just waiting, but I can't because Al Pacino is chit-chatting.
He's like, so what did you do this weekend?
I'm like, I took my girlfriend out for her birthday.
We went to the movies and had dinner.
He's like, how old did she turn?
I'm like, 23.
And there's a light pause and then he says, good age.
Action!
This project that you're now doing, John,
the Diamond King, your love of baseball,
before we get to it,
how much could we badger you right now on the Knicks
and have you run scared because your confidence
is shaken after last night?
Yeah, I'm kind of pissed.
A buddy of mine who's a Clippers fan just texted me
at seven in the morning out here,
and I just responded by saying,
I hate basketball, which is of course not true,
but I'm really down, but I'm not nervous at all.
We're definitely gonna take the series.
So what I'm loving about it is that it's a real throwback
to when I first fell in love with the Knicks,
which was when Bernard King was dropping 50 every night.
I don't think you can feel like you definitely anything,
like definitely gonna take the series from the Pistons
You have not earned that confidence. Why would you have that confidence?
because
The Pistons are talented, but they're young team and I think they're just gonna fold John
Can you rate my Al Pacino from that billiards scene in Carlito's Way if I do it for you?
I think it's pretty good. Yeah, okay. Do you need any help? Do you want me to throw you a line or something? No, you're already dead at this point. Your character's already dead.
Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah. He's in the bathroom. You know, he's hiding out. He's going to go.
All right. Ready? Yeah. You think you're big time?
Come on!
That is on my infamous scale of one to 10.
That's a 7.6. Solid, good job, Zazz.
Good job, good job.
That's a suey nominee right there.
Good.
Zazz asked what he did this weekend now.
The next time I come on the show,
if I'm fortunate enough to ever be invited, I got to tell you one of the best stories of that scene,
of that moment, actually.
All right, we need it right now, and we'll wait,
because I want to have you on again,
but I want that story right now.
I'll give you the very short version,
but I couldn't, I was, I was on very little sleep,
because we shot that over the course of two days, But I couldn't, I was on very little sleep
because we shot that over the course of two days.
And it took way over the 12 hours to complete the first day.
And they called me in like a six to seven hour break
the next day because I had to put on the prosthetic
for my neck, you know,
and that took a long time. So I had very little sleep, maybe like an hour, so I was
on caffeine the whole day and when we finally got to that scene, which was at
the very, very end of the night, Pacino needed to fly to LA for the Oscars. He was nominated for two that year.
And for anyone who can answer the two movies
that he was nominated for, I'll send you a prize.
And I'll give you a couple of minutes.
But don't-
Roy, go ahead and take your guess.
A Scent of a Woman.
Scent of a Woman is what he has guessed.
And, but there's two.
Roy, he's trapped you,
because the difficult one was not the first one.
You jumped into the breach.
You're like, I got it, Dan,
and then you had no number two.
Glynn, Gary, Glen, and Ross.
Eh.
Ah.
Okay.
You're stuck out there now, Roy.
Now what do you do?
I lost.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You lost because there's a really nice prize that was coming at you
and I was afraid to depart with it.
So thank you for-
You're welcome.
But what is the second movie?
Are you going to tell us?
Dick Tracy.
Oh yeah.
Whoa, who would've guessed that?
That's right, well that's why he was doing that to us.
Your Pacino was great.
I'm sorry, we interrupted you. No, no, no, no, that was nice. That was a that to us. Your Pacino was great. I'm sorry, we interrupted you.
No, no, no, no, no, that was nice.
That was a nice little break.
So, you know, there's a lot of pressure
to get him on the plane.
And right after he does that speech,
he bangs open the door,
and there's a beautiful long crane shot
that goes through the bathroom, through the doorway,
and lands on me and then
pans to him, lands on me dead, pans to him and he says there are no friends in this business,
primo, and he takes the money and leaves.
Well, when the camera got to me, my eyes were blinking because I was so jittery on caffeine that the palma would
yell cut.
And it happened four or five times.
And by the fifth time, it was like the palma decided to take Pacino aside and I could hear
the conversation because I was stuck in a pool of fake blood.
And he says, I'm just, I'm sorry about this.
I know you got a plane to catch,
but I'm just gonna like not go to the kid
and I'm gonna just stay on you.
And I was devastated.
I thought for sure my acting career was gonna be over.
Like I'm playing dead.
I can't even do that.
You're disappointing Pacino while just laying on your side trying not to get in the way,
trying to hide under the floor. In a pool of blood. Dude, so embarrassed, so embarrassed. Shame,
shame. And Pacino says, give me a minute, clears the entire room. Everyone leaves. So I'm like,
guess I got to get out of this sticky fake blood.
And I'm starting to move.
And he's like, no, no, no, stay, stay.
I'm going to have a, I just needed everyone to get out of here.
I'm going to have a, I'm going to have an espresso.
Do you want one?
That's the last thing I should be drinking.
But I'm not going to say no to espresso from Al Pacino.
I'm like, yeah, sure.
And we have an espresso.
I don't know what we talked about, but it lasted maybe,
you know, 45 seconds.
And he's like, all right, let's do this.
And we go back in and it gets to that moment
where I was hearing cut over and over again.
And I don't hear cut and it gets to that moment where I was hearing cut over and over again and I don't
hear cut and it continues and I hear his line and I feel his you know his fingers taking
the money and he leaves I hear his footsteps and then I hear cut and Brian saying we got
it that's it it's a wrap and Pacino, as everyone is wishing him good luck
and surrounding him, I'm just looking at him from afar,
still on the floor, covered in fake blood,
and he turns around and this is like an iconic moment
for me, but he turns around just as he's leaving the room
and he shouts out to the room,
if I win them both, I ain't coming back.
And he leaves.
And I was like, that's my man.
You think you're big time?
You're gonna die big time.
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Why does the project mean something to you?
Because I'm being told it's a dream project for you.
Yeah, I love documentaries, man.
I'm a documentary nerd.
I love sports documentaries.
And I love baseball.
And I always, you know, wanted to be Morgan Freeman
and narrate a movie.
So all those three things came together.
And then they told me what the project was about, the subject, and it's a baseball artist named Dick Perez,
who's Puerto Rican.
He grew up in New York City,
and I didn't know who he was.
And I used to collect baseball cards.
So when I found out who he was,
like there were parallels to my life
and I jumped right in and did it.
And I'm so glad because I think it's a beautiful film.
Is it true that your son is named Clemente
after Roberto Clemente?
He is named Clemente.
My cousin's name is Roberto after Roberto Clemente. Really? Yeah, if you combine them, you'd have Roberto Clemente. My cousin's name is Roberto after Roberto Clemente.
Really?
Yeah, if you combine them, you'd have Roberto Clemente.
There you go.
We got to get them together.
His middle name's Fenway for some reason, but we don't talk about that.
It's fine.
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Appreciate your work.
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Thanks so much, it was a pleasure being here.
Thank you, sir, appreciate your time.
Big time.
Yeah, big time. That was great.
Big time, pleasure.
Yeah, yeah.
It's an excellent Pacino that you did.
I meant to ask him whether a legacy game
can be inconclusive, because I don't feel like
we attacked that subject enough. I don't think also we talked enough about the Knicks and the Pistons
and and the NBA players have voted Tyrese Halliburton the most overrated
player in the league really which seems unfair like I don't he's a really good
player that means they don't like him I put it's so strange like he's a he's an
excellent player like well it's a hallmark of a good show and you have so many things
He wanted to get to him can't we didn't even dive deep at all in the new dangerous alliance between Seth
Frickin Rollins and Bron Breaker and also JD Vance and the Pope and the Cavender Twins video also
Kanya used to suck his cousin's no let's not do that. Oh, let's not do that
The Cavender Twins and JD Vance No, let's not do that. Let's not do that. Yeah.
The Cavender twins and JD Vance. JD Vance killed the Pope?
Well, there's a lot of memes going around
because JD Vance met with the Pope,
obviously a few hours before he died,
and the memes are things like,
what is JD Vance's full name?
And it's just killed Da Pope Vance
and things of that nature.
So he's getting a lot of flack for it.
I've seen a lot of people also saying
he didn't kill the Pope,
the Pope met him and then killed himself,
which is very dark.
But-
That's not what happened.
A lot of people are also saying-
No, he actually wasn't able to meet with him.
That if this were a Veep episode,
it would have crushed,
which that I do agree with.
And how about the timing for our partners over at Peacock
with Conclave premiering soon?
I was gonna say, if you've seen Conclave,
that movie's awesome.
Dude, I've never been so enraptured
with a bunch of old dudes voting.
Movie's awesome.
I would vote for Ray Fiennes to be the new pope.
Is Conclave a movie?
I thought it was a series.
I didn't know it was just one movie.
No, it's a movie.
Okay, and it's actually?
It's nominated for best picture.
Yeah, yeah.
You'll be totally gripped by this movie about voting.
Yeah.
I'm surprised that Zaslow got ensnared.
Yeah.
I don't know anything about that process.
This is incredible.
I couldn't believe how many times I went,
during a movie about old guys voting.
It's like a mystery thriller about electing a pope
and it's great.
I think it won best adapted screenplay, right?
Because it was based off of a book
and the ending is, there's a twist at the end.
The ending and the twist in the end of the book
apparently is different than the movie.
I haven't read the book.
Now I don't think I am gonna read the book
because I've seen the movie.
But anyways, I digress.
Ray Fiennes, Stanley Tucci, which one would you vote for, Dan?
Or mystery third pope, Italian guy who vapes?
Or John Lithgow?
Well, John Lithgow!
I'm a big fan of Lithgow.
Who would you vote for?
Pick one.
I'm gonna try and watch Conclave.
Pick one, Italian guy who vapes, Stanley Tucci,
Ray Fiennes, John Lithgow.
I thought it wasn't Ray Fiennes, I thought it was Ralph.
I thought his name was, I thought it was-
His friends call him Ray.
No, I think it's Ralph. Just pick it's race. I thought it was friends calm Oh, I think it's Ralph. I'm picking fines
I wanted you to say the Italian guy cuz then I would have said you're a fascist
Okay, just tell me okay say the Italian guy
Okay, it's still right fine. No, I thought so Ralph. It's neither. All right the Italian
He stinks.
Don't vote for him.
Fascist.
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