The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 2: Ken Jennings

Episode Date: June 14, 2023

Amin continues to search for the culprit in his crime, but the results may not be in his favor... We also take a look at the reverse boycott in Oakland and the impact of the A's potentially moving away. Then, what are pennies made of? Plus, Dan learns Will Arnett hates him and Ken Jennings of Jeopardy! joins the show to share the question that haunts him, having more knowledge that anyone else, and more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

You're listening to Giraffe King's Network. This is the Don Levertor Show with this two-gots podcast. From my vantage point, I did not have a good vantage point. I mean, don't let us bother you there. You've been stellar today and hitting the microphone at the start of the segment is exactly the way that I wanted to start that segment. You hit the, we give a countdown before we get going.

I did, that's your time to adjust. I did, it wasn't adjusting. I was just like flailing it. Not right, it's happened seven segments today, including one where you were fully eating a muffin and I couldn't go to you because you were fully eating a muffin and I couldn't go to you because you were busy eating a muffin. Untrue. Untrue.

I will not stay here for these untruths lives. I mean, you walked in at the last second of every segment we've done today and that's not the worst of it. He's a victim of a crime, Dan. Yeah, well, this is the thing that I noticed during the break that is like offensive and he should be embarrassed by because I couldn't believe what I saw and I couldn't see his face when it happened because it was hidden by the door of the fridge. Billy emerged from the fridge holding triumphantly a means allegedly stolen flon. Wow.

It had his name on it and he made all sorts of accusations including blame to Hildey. She admitted to it, which is weird because she didn't even commit the crime, but he convinced her to admit that she ate his blood and then it happened. You forced a false confession. Yeah, rather convenient, I do declare. Wow.

First of all, young Mr. Gill just appeared with the flood out of nowhere. It was behind the name on it. It handed name on it. The handwriting analysis is still in effect then. And we're going to figure out we're going to get to the bottom of this. You're saying it wasn't your handwriting? The investigation is ongoing. Oh, guys, all right.

It was exactly as you described it. You were with the cook. I should have had your name and then had the a. And then you said you did, you said originally that you thought the a would be enough. And then you're like, you know what? I'm going to put my whole name here because there are no other means and it had a mean on it. I said, Mr. Levitade, the investigation is ongoing by top men and women. I don't understand why you have felt the need in the last two segments to do Obama,

doc rivers and I'm not about to say what he was, but I'm a little late, but better late than ever. You have written the word a mean on the top of a plastic container. It is your handwriting. The A is larger than the rest of the letter. How can we be really sure? That's flawed. It looks like cheesecake from where I sit. It's the letter Todd. Okay. How can we be really sure that's flawed? It looks like cheesecake from where I sit, Mr. Levittard. I'm cake. You actually saw it and I thought, is that cheesecake?

And then I was like, this cannot be it. It's just behind a pickle jar. There's no way this is what he's being a big deal in. No. If the camera's could zoom in a little, you could see. That's not how you're supposed to handle evidence by the way.

What? It's a gloves. Oh, well, you know, it's not the finger prints account. It's the handwriting analysis that would perform the Mr. Ruiz. As I said, you can see the sample of my handwriting right on this bottle right here. It's a little faded, but you can see my handwriting there. Now compare and contrast this handwriting. Totally different, totally different. I submit to you in the court that this is a fabrication. This is not the Flan in question.

This is a plant made by one Mr. Gilliam, aka Billy Gilliam. So someone got you a fresh flan, that should be a net positive. It's a flan fabrication. Flan and fabrication. Why is that? And a quote, line, tell. I did not say I was part of this.

I did not have sexual relations with that woman. I did not have sexual relations with that woman. I did not have sexual relations with that woman. I didn't say either of those things. All right, take you and all of your characters and get in the penalty box. Not until like reinforced gender stereotypes, whatever, they're bad, et cetera, but men are terrible at looking for things, right?

Like objective. Yes. We can accept that. We can accept that. My wife says that of me all the time. This entire situation is fuba. Ghosts in the penalty box. What killed the dinosaurs? At Levitard show.

What? Not a fuba. Ju-ju-at Levitard show are men terrible at finding lost items. I was great at hitting pictures. You know, the plexigal burris Jersey is pretty alcohol. Yeah. He was great at hidden pictures. You know the Plexico Burris. Jersey is pretty awful. Yeah he's worried about the dog. He doesn't want to go outside because there's a dog at the door. He's sticking the penalty box with the dog. Yes, yes. Put him in the penalty box with the dog. I do declare the person we're in the Plexico Jersey just shot himself in the foot.

shot himself in the foot. I don't think we should be skipping past something that Brockmeyer said. It was odd enough that the Gator story was true, but also kind of odd is what is happening around the Oakland eights because in a season, Mard, by one of their announcers, leaving the team because he used the N word by accident next to a colleague in Dallas, Braden who was sitting next to him, confused and didn't correct him. It was so much like the scene in Anchorman. After going bleep yourself in,

go bleep yourself, say, and then go, dude, dude, good show everybody, Bob of lights. But okay, so that's that's over there. The tricky spot for Dallas. It is a tricky spot for everybody. Thank you, Stugots, but it's not a reaction. You can have a reaction. You cannot make it that obvious that you weren't listening, which is the best case scenario for Dallas Britain. Regardless, it's a controversy off to the side

That I'm not sure the Oakland A's didn't welcome so you wouldn't see how bad their baseball team is talk about anything else But now they've got a seven game winning streak I stood out the last two days has come in here delighted and surprised that he's won bets in which he is bet Oakland against Tampa The greatest run differentials in the history of the sport Tampa's is so good and Oakland's is so bad and Oakland has beaten Tampa two nights in a row. I got him a plus two 20 and plus 180 plus 180 because they're hot. Uh, yes. They are seven straight.

They're the hottest team in baseball. Yes. However, yesterday, you have to understand they have gotten zero crowds for their game. Oakland, the city around is so fed up and And it's got such a great baseball history. Oakland's got such a great sports history. Oakland's history in general is interesting. It's like the original ghettos were in Oakland and you will find Hall of Famers

in various forms of entertainment within blocks of each other, grew up because there was so much talent in Oakland. Nobody goes to the baseball games. Like abysmal crowds and the ushers are getting in trouble for enforcing seating when there are dozen people there. But yesterday they got 27 grand for a game. And it was to make the owner sell the team by chanting in unison, sell the team and wearing uniforms. And in honor of the 55 year history of the Oclinets, they pulled off a 55 second moment of silence,

which would have been much easier in all their usual ballpark crowds. But 27,000 people being quiet and protest had an impact. And I don't know which was the better impact. 55 seconds of silence or chanting sell the team and only showing up to where shirts where you're chanting sell the team.

If I may, last night, very clearly was a difficult sports night for me and I noticed this thing was happening and I sought it because it was such a great palette cleanser and it was a cool feel good story. They're gonna lose and it stinks, losing teams. And they're about to like set a record. I know that the Golden State Warriors are Golden State

and they're in that area, but they left the Oakland area to for more high price real estate. They've lost the Raiders and now it looks like they're gonna lose their baseball team and has to feel terrible. And normally you'd see people check out in the whole notion of a reverse boycott was kind of inspiring and it made for one of the wildest baseball environments

that you'll ever see. It was a surreal experience. You say it's a feel good story though. It's a horror if you care about sports because their chance are going to be lost to history and their pain is going to be lost to history because they're going to kill baseball in that market. Plus the idea of having a baseball team in Vegas is so cool. We did an episode of Metal Lockers where we talked to Andy Doleich and Dave Newhouse. They wrote a book about called Good Bioc, about how the city of Oakland,

for its entire existence in professional sports, has just been kind of something that's been used as a pawn, as something to build interest somewhere else. And how they've been dicked over as a city, over and over and over again. And this is just the latest and the long string of owners that have used and abused this town that really deserves better in terms of especially in consider the amount of fandom

and the passion of these fans from it. How much wedding they've done too. That's true. That's an organization. Successful yes. That was a great and really informative episode of Metal Larkers and you'll also enjoy watching it because those are some of the oldest men you'll ever see try to use Zoom in your life. And I guess part of the Raiders history is that they were this transient franchise. So we're going back and forth. And the warriors do have roots in San Francisco and it's not necessarily Oakland's team though it kind of felt like that, especially through the Baron Davis years and that great low sea that beat the Mavericks, but the A's have such a rich history in Oakland out of all the professional franchises that feels most like Oakland's to me and to move them seems more wrong than I guess it

feels like for any of the others. Can you guys look up for me the last time they got 27,000 people for a baseball game? Because it's not just that Oakland has a history of winning, even though one of the reputational credibility hits that they take is that Billy Bean, who changed the way the sport was measured, changed the way analysis was done, changed, really formed the modern-day race by being smarter than everyone else and finding value in the market. Yeah, never won it. Yeah, never did win, but did alter the way that player analysis works in that sport. Mm hmm.

Oh, win. I'm trying to find out the last time that drew that many fans. It's been a while. It looks like the wild card game in 2019. They had 54,000 fans. So it's been three, four years since it's easier to do that when you have a football stadium as we've learned with the Florida marlins at the time setting an attendance record.

You guys have to look up their numbers and how far they are from everyone else in the major leagues and attendance numbers. You are talking about a team like it feels when you're watching a baseball game on television in Oakland like you're watching a haunted ballpark. There no, it felt like it did during the pandemic when fans aren't allowed in the ballpark. So cavernous because it's such a huge ballpark like that. They said that the 27,759 surpassed their opening day, 26,805 and the A's had not drawn more than 20,000 fans since until this reversed.

They are averaging 9,000, just over 9,000 fans per night. The Marlins are second to last at 11,000. They had a game earlier this year where they drew 2,064 fans. Someone say another stat really quick, right in a row. Lois in September, 1979 when they only drew 10, 10, 100. This is a 100. Nice clothes, nice dismount. hecho de 100. ¡Ten 100! ¡Nos son muy bienvenidos!

¡Ten 100! Hola, alguien me escucha. Necesito ayuda. Estoy en Barcelona y las criaturas están por todas partes. A la esbloque de la guía. Escucheis lo que escuchéis. Tapados los ojos. La calle vamos todos a ciedas,

pero lo más aterrador es no saber confiar. Uy de las personas que os piden que mireis, si queréis seguir convido. Kenzli Jansen, I gotta be careful here. What not just either? Let me start again. Stugats! He's the closer. Comes in, ninth inning. Closest the game out. His name is Kenli Jansen.

He has blamed his recent... This is the Dalibata show with his Stugats! I want to explore this for a second because Tony it can be hard with the number of people that we have in here to get in in the tight windows where you're not stepping on others and there isn't a lot of space to be a sixth or fifth or seventh or ten hundredth voice on a show where everyone's got microphones. I just want to know when Jessica put out the challenge of go ahead, we have three seconds left in this segment. Somebody give me a stat real quick.

Why it is that you comfortably and confidently jumped into that breach and then how you felt immediately when realizing, oh no, I've got my numbers wrong, I'm stumbling over the finish line. Take me through what just happened there. Yeah, so as she's saying that, I'm like, oh perfect, there's one little stack as I saw where a mean said it. It's the next sentence, September 19, 1979, they had a thousand thirty seven fans. So as I'm looking at that, I'm like, all right, perfect, here we go, it's time to deliver three seconds.

And then two, one, I lose the 10,37. And I'm like, 10, I'm like, looking for it, damn, where is it, where is it, that's 1979. And then I said, 10,00. And I just said to a mean zero while you were starting the segment, that one's gonna sit with me for a little bit. None, they rarely do, right? Great shooters keep shooting no matter what.

This one, 10,00, that one. This one, $100,000. That one sold me for a little bit. So it was at the buzzer and it was just, Rick and I was like, oh, come on. You need a good line to make up for it. You know, yeah, to make it go away. I gotcha. All right.

I thought of this when I read a story earlier this week about somebody, a family, found that a father who had passed away had left behind a million pennies hidden in the home in a wall of the home It's $10,000 200 bucks guys tried to do that. That is correct $10,000

$10,000 of thousands of dollars. I Would have thought it was more than that. A million pennies. That's such a, you like to got to move. It's such a dick move. I mean, it's a million of something. That's gotta be worth at least $5 million. I think it's worth more if you melt it down.

Yeah. I believe that's true. I don't know, are pennies worth less than a penny now? Cause they're really like, Yeah, so you melt it down into copper. Yeah. And just sell the copper. And just sell the copper worth more. Put it on the pole.

Please add Levitard show. Do you still use pennies? Also put on the pole at Levitard show. Do you take pennies back as change if you use cash? Most people don't anymore. I don't take any change back anymore. Do we? We're thinking yeah, everything, everything.

Yes, even if it's 75 cents, 84 cents, I think back quarters just give me the bills. back anymore. You're a weird thing. Yeah. You round up everything. Everything. Yes. Even if it's 75 cents, 84 cents, you don't take back quarters. Just give me the bills. Yeah. I love change. Change is the best. What if this guy gave them up? It was Obama's slogan.

No, I don't. I don't like it. Why would you say change? In that moment, in that voice, that's why. Penny's are made of zinc, by the way. Huh. Put it on the pole pole is that right? It's not I googled it. It's I don't think so as to expensive could have eaten a penny during But this is from the United States mint which always sounded tasty to me until I found out it's just like

Mint it's like where they make money United States mint Dot gov it's a dot gov so it's legit United States Mint. It's a dot gov, so it's legit. There you go. Although, there was, I was doing something like, with like US Customs, Border, whatever, Homeland Security, all that like,

Pre-SAT check, pre-check. And they were like, how do you know at the top of the website? How do you know this is a real website? And I was like, you know, if a fake website was trying to pretend to be a real government website, it would probably have the same slogan at the top two but they said dot gov was a slogan what what slogan you said it had the same slogan at the top like this is how

you know this is a real website to try to like convince you are on the road if there's that of their website's pretending to be got a cop as a cop you know right but that's what a fake that Tony knows that's what everyone would say. Put her on the pole, please, Jude, you at Levitard show. Did the United States mint sound tasty to you when you were a child?

And did you know that pennies were made of zinc? I'm still questioning that. I don't think that that's true. On a dot gov, I just told you. I know, but I'm still. It says it's a real website on the website. I understand. Thank you, Bill.

It says the outside layers are three quarters copper and one quarter nickel and the filling is solid copper. Penny's are made of zinc coated with copper. What? Billy, I need to go back. Sorry, I cut off the beginning there and it made less sense than it should have. Okay, you guys are doing great so far this segment.

Billy, let me go to you because I want to go back to the first hour of this show when you were playing a means patino game with former Florida Panthers and I believe that you through three or four names at us that weren't actually Florida Panther. Well, I was saying Florida's Panthers coaches because we were talking about the coach. Yeah, because it was like a mean yesterday. It was like Westworld season two where I was making jokes about the coach. Yeah, because it was like a mean yesterday. It was like Westworld season two, where I was making jokes on the jokes.

And did I throw in some made-up names? Yeah. What were the made-up names that you threw into the very- No one knows. Small windows. Did you notice the made-up names? Exactly right. Did you?

You know what you should do, Billy? You should say the names over. And then again, Dan pick out which ones are real and which ones are fake trapper LaFlure was a completely made up name really Pierre France Wajaxon made up name huh these are names that I mean was just texting me while I was doing this so he was complicit wow can I go back can we go back back to the guy that died and left his kids a bunch of pennies thing? What if he was more devious and left in the million pennies, a couple of those pennies that are worth like $80,000 each?

But you have to search through all the pennies to find the right year. By the way, I also don't buy that because people say that all the time, like, oh, a 1943 penny or whatever it is, is worth like $3 million. It's like, what sucker is going to give me $3 million for one set? Because I don't believe time to go on 1943 penny or whatever it is. It's worth like three million dollars. It's like, what sucker is going to get me three million dollars for one set? Because I don't believe that that's real.

Never watch antique roacho, huh? You need to find someone to buy these things for them to be worth the things that they say that they are. You can say anything is worth anything if you want to. No, if antique roacho says it's worth that much. The most expensive penny right now is $408,000. There you go. Yeah, the 1944 Steel Wheat Penny.

Oh, whoa. Yeah. I've had a year for pennies. I'm off the top of my head. I also saw Dan. Pen for your thoughts. Speaking of fathers that died and tried to teach their children a lesson, I saw a story in a remind of me of a rest of development where a father died

and arrived at his funeral in a helicopter to teach his children a lesson to enjoy their time with him when they had it. I love that story, man. I saw that story today. I was like, Oh, that's awesome. You have to cut that guy off forever, right? No.

You're never speaking to that family member again. He's in a molestin. That's the less any teaching. You guys don't call me enough. That's why you should never leave a note and just give me a call sometime. Say hi. That's why you never trust a man with one arm or whatever.

Jean Parmesan. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. See, Jean Parmesan was a character on this television program called the Rest of Development. Speaking of Will Arnette, God Bluth, he's hosting a simulcast of Formula One races this year with Daniel Ricardo now and ESPN. go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go I hate you, Dan. Does he? Yeah, cause yeah, you did an HQ interview with him. You only asked, you started griefeding and the publicist was like super mad about it.

The first I'm hearing of it. Oh, it caused lots of problems. We lost a lot of graces, because of it. Dan didn't even know? Well, it was supposed to be to promote the Lego movie and instead it was about his addiction. Addiction, yeah. What's with this Dan Levittart guy anyway?

Just can't resist. With club sauce. Club sauce. I'm learning right now. You guys could probably reveal to me a top 10 of things like that that I would learn right now. He had a very powerful publicist who made sure that you got no one for a very long time.

First I'm hearing of it. Yeah. Ed Helms. Because I asked Will Arnette about addiction. It wasn't only about addiction. Yeah, it helps. Because I asked Will Arnett about addiction. It wasn't only about addiction. Yeah, only about addiction. Why am I hearing this for the first time now? It's not. You're always a last-minute. I don't know who you're trying to fool, but it's certainly not the first time we've made you aware that Will Arnett hates your guts. I love

Will Arnett. And it's most certainly not the first time we told you the ramifications of will are not hating your God I am telling you it with one hundred percent honesty that I'm receiving this information Don't you think I think who got to know his will are net I've gotten so I've gotten so many people angry over the years that I simply forget I have so many in the library that will are net who I love and I watch I give no thought to when I'm watching him None zero to that person hates me. I remember a terrible interview He hates you Mike and I have had to scratch off entire teams like we don't go to those Pay for that for about 15 never gonna get away from people to retire that I know I knew Memphis, Grizzlies

I knew King Kong Bundy. He died. You're good. I know that he was mad at me. What's the gotta call it a monkey? Diamond Dallas page is still with us. Okay, all right. That what I know as well.

Wrestlers, I've got a good, I've got a good library of wrestlers that I have bothered. Joan, the late Joan Rivers, I remember that we bother her. Yeah, we did bother her. Who did you ask about eating children? Was a Patrick Willis? Yeah, that one just didn't land, but I that we bother her. Yeah, we do bother her. Who did you ask about eating children? Was a Patrick Willis? Yeah, that one just didn't land, but I think we're good.

Okay, all right. He's been on with us since. Yeah, he had a really. That was fine. That's back. Still pretty boring. Stephen A, still probably hit Stephen. Jimmy Butler.

Apparently he talked about you on the Macafe show today, Dan. I'm good with Stephen A. I'll never have any problems with Stephen A. Stephen A doesn't have any problem with it. See, all this stuff comes to me and I'm not sure what people have right and what they don't have right. We'll learn that evidently is right

because all of you believe it. I'm dead serious when I tell you I have no institutional knowledge of this. I feel like I'm hearing it for the first time. Let me be very, very clear. Dan Lebert taught, there's like a brother to me. We grew up in this industry. He is one of the most gifted writers I have ever seen. But you mean to tell me, you've never cut off a brother to me. We grew up in this industry. He is one of the most gifted writers I have ever seen.

But you mean to tell me you've never cut off a brother? I am a Paul that you think that we are still good down, Levitard, after you besmirched my name. One of the things from yesterday that I enjoyed so much, like it was so much. What was that impression? I was lost, sorry. There's a television person out in him. Steven A Smith. He's featured

very commonly on ESPN, which is known as the World by the Leader of Sports. And he has a very bombastic style. Oh, communicates. Continue. Back to you, Dad. Thank you guys. I appreciate the amount of space I've been given here. I don't believe you. I think that's sarcasm. I've been given here. I don't believe you. I think that's sarcasm. You see sarcasm is this tool that people use, Michael, that sometimes when they say one thing, but they actually mean the exact opposite.

Look at Dan's face right now. When he closes his eyes and starts doing breathing exercises into the microphone, that means we've worked him. So let's... I stopped looking at him. She could willow in here. She's good for that. Yeah, let's get a therapy dog.

It's a therapy dog. I feel for him though. Give her a pet you'll feel better Shannon Sharp yesterday while he is doing his tearful goodbye on Interrupted instead of pardon the interruption just interruption. He's he's doing his tearful goodbye And skip Bayless interrupted him. Nah, of course he does. And he's like, let me finish. He's like, I'm crying right now with gratitude.

This is why I'm leaving. To skip Bayless and skip Bayless. And the moment there was a silence, skip Bayless stepped into it. And you will have noticed in the segment that we just did, the tensions that arise when people work together for a long time and one of them is not allowed to speak Oh Two of them The ones whose names are on the show

Oh, cuz I get never never get interrupted Seems like everybody has a resentment. In the end. Good timing. Good timing. Good timing. Yeah, Tony, finish this up. 100. Down lebertard. Let's go Islanders, pump, pump, pump, pump, pump, two guts. Let's go Islanders, pump, pump, pump, bump, bump, bump. Two guts. Let's go Islanders. Bump, bump, bump, bump, bump. This is the Don Lebertar Show with this two guts.

This guy walks around with a drape on him that not a lot of people have, which is he's just walking through the streets and people see his face. And like that person knows more than the rest of us do about things. And now he is writings to God, he's an author and I didn't know he knew about the afterlife, but evidently, evidently, he knows about that as well. He's got the hundred places to see after you die.

So he has done knowing everything that there is to know on this planet, this time space continuum, and is now visiting another one. This book, I suspect, is better than the Bible in terms of bringing you the afterlife and what is possible in the afterlife. Ten Jennings, if you're not familiar, is the guy who won a Jeopardy in a way that was freakish and unbelievable and now co-host Jeopardy. So he won 74 times in a row. I don't know how he lost choked. He's a bum.

Do it 75 times Jennings. Yeah, I don't know what happened on the 75th. Do you have great remorse Jennings? And thank you for joining us about what happened on the 75th. Do you go back in time and just have nightmares about like, oh, I had this one and that one. I should still be playing. No one should have beaten me. One thing I've learned is that every jeopardy player is for the rest of their life just haunted by the clue that beat them. Like I saw in John McCain's obituary, he was still mad about what is Ecuador when he was on jeopardy in the 70s, you know, like. mad about what is Ecuador when he was on jeopardy in the 70s, you know, like, so yes, I still feel about the pain. But you know what, like by the odds, I think I should have lost long before that. It was a weird, it was a

weird, the magic of like speak, the never should have happened. What is the one that haunt you? The question, it ancient our block. I'm in a strip mall. I see the ancient our block sign. And I think, H&R block sign and I think oh, if only if a man said what is ancient R block. I'd still be on jeopardy today. I'd be like game 1000. Forgive me. What was the question that you missed? Did you have it somewhere in the recesses? Like I what was the what was the or the answer you missed? I guess people tell me it's easy. So you guys will enjoy this especially because I just gave you the correct response. It's like most of this firms, 14,000 white

collar workers are seasonal employees and only work a couple months of the year. What is H&R block? Oh, you're right. Yeah. What was I thinking? Excellent work by StuGods, smarter than Ken Jennings, not surprising at all. We'll get to your book in a second, but when did you realize at what age did you realize that you were talented at this thing? I was always a game show nerd as a kid. I remember just being heartbroken on my first day

of kindergarten, but I was going to miss Hollywood squares and password. So I was like a deeply weird kid. But Jeopardy was very empowering. You see smart people on TV who know everything, and that was always just who I was. The kid reading out of the Guinness Book of World records, amazing facts about the biggest pumpkin pie ever baked. It's a certain kind of kid, and I feel like I must have just come out of the womb that

way. Do you have a bit of a photographic memory? I don't know if that's a thing. I remember things the way everybody does, which is if you're interested in them, they just stick, right? You don't have to work to memorize the lyrics of the song you like or the names of the roster on your favorite team. Like, the stuff you like just sticks in your head.

And I think the thing about Jeopardy people is we're just interested in everything. So if you can trick yourself into being interested in everything, then everything sticks. It's like you have a photographic memory. Do you ever tone it down like when you're around other people or you just always kind of like annoying and telling them, you know, everything? No, one thing about America being deeply suspicious of Noadalls is you breathe that in as a kid.

Like at some point, you realize, oh, it is not a hit with girls that I know Captain Kirk's middle name. And so I developed this sense of shame about it, which I think is good because it turned into a self-awareness of, do not always be the biggest know-it-all in the room, that's a dick move. And I think that's certainly pretty well. What is Tiberius? I'm very curious. I don't know. Look at that. Yeah. Do you have a story in a cocktail party setting where you are or many stories where you're purposely being dumb or so that you're not the dick?

Yeah, often you're soft pedaling it. You know, somebody will say something that's wrong and you're like, you know, I think I, I think I once heard a podcast about that. And maybe it's the other way, you know, you know, I don't want to let it go unchallenged. There's too much of that in America. But there's certainly the desire to not like take pleasure in it. You know, I think that's the character flaw.

You taking notes, Dan? I was just asking Mike, I was asking Mike if he's taking notes. It's there, there's something. There's no, it's there's real wisdom to be had in what it is. The man is sharing, including what he's got to say about the hundred places to see after you die. The first time you went on Jeopardy though, were you 100% confident? Like you imagined what in your wildest dreams? The first time you went on Jeopardy though, were you 100% confident? You imagined what in your wildest dreams?

You know, I knew everybody on that show was the same weird kind of kid as me. And so my only goal was to not be the person who's in the red going into final Jeopardy. You know how if you're negative, you just kind of disappear from the third act of the show. I always felt so bad for those people. And once I did not do that, I was like, okay, like, this isn't a catastrophe. I can loosen up. And every game that I won, it was just crazy.

Like, I couldn't believe it. Like, I was fine with one. Ken, I don't know if you've seen the news lately, but I'm a little concerned at the general lack of care that we have that aliens are very much clearly invading our planet. The sightings are going up exponentially. There was this whole neighborhood in Las Vegas that very rationally described aliens walking through their neighborhood with big bulging eyes. Do you believe in alien life? You're a very smart person. And are you concerned at people's lack of concern? I'm Jen X, which means I was educated by hundreds of books about aliens

and vermina triangle and big foot like who built the pyramids. This was going to be a big part of my life. I thought it's it's one of the big reasons I wrote this book about the afterlife, because I've always loved mysteries. But the thing about aliens is We've all got cameras on our phones now like wouldn't we have better cell phone videos? They're adapted in they're adapted at claiming private property That's why we don't see what's in the backyard can come on also who built the pyramids will shock you They had why fine. There's no video. I'm just saying it's freaking vegan. There's no video. You're correct. Did you at any point have a secret

jealousy or a private feud with that grinning freak James Holeshawars? James is a very unique person but the thing about you get to know I mean you find oh this is disappointing because he's actually kind of lovely and normal. It's just that on TV, he watched enough pro wrestling that he thought Jeopardy needed a heel and he does not break K-Fate. Like he is dedicated to that idea that Jeopardy needs a bad guy, but to his credit, he was right. You know, without him, the goat tournament never happens.

Jeopardy masters, the chase on ABC. We have all this TV now built around the idea that Jeopardy just needed an A-hole for almost 40 years and we didn't know. What would you say in honor of Pat Seijack saying this will be his final 41st season with Wheel of Fortune? What are the top five game shows of all time according to Ken Jennings, game show aficionado. Yeah, Pat SayJack is an absolute legend. You know, he's the only other person until I did it who had hosted an episode of Jeopardy.

He and Alex switched place once for an April Fool's gag. The guy was just reliable. You know, Jeopardy and Wheeler comfort food and he never let the price of a vowel go up over 40 years. No inflation, $250 still. You got to admire that. Do you have a top five, though, for us of what you would say are the best game shows of all time? Do we'll afford you and Jeopardy both belong in there? Sony is my employer, so yes, absolutely. Jeopardy and Wheel. After that, gotta be family-fewed. That was my favorite kid. Password.

I think that's a show that needs to come back. And I really liked... Stop the Schwab. Yeah, that's it. Stop the Schwab. I thought so. A hundred places to see after you die is available now. Tell us why you wrote it, what you're writing about.

You did pretty meticulous research such that it is on the afterlife, correct? I did not die, but yes, I spent years in libraries reading ancient Buddhist sutras and weird mystics visits to the afterlife. I've always been fascinated by, well, everything. I'm interested in everything. And so when I go down a rabbit hole like this, I get really, really excited about whatever it is. And in this case, it was the biggest mystery of all.

What happens when you die? We thought about this for thousands of years. Is it the Egyptian Hall of Judgment? Is it Dante's in Ferno? Is it the good place? Is it the sitcom heaven where Larry Natha goes when he he dies on curb, you know, so there's hundreds of these team park rides and fantasy role-playing games and comic books, they'll have their own vision of the afterlife and I wanted to take readers through them all

because there's a lot of imagination there, it tells us a lot about ourselves, what we think might await us. Do you rank them? Do you have like, do you go to number one or it's just a hundred of the best ones? I would say it's a hundred of the best, but I do have personal favorites. I think like if I had to choose an afterlife, I feel like it's hard to beat the vibe in the field of dreams in Iowa, you know, like just spending all day in the bleachers watching old timey baseball in the corn. That sounds pretty good actually. Wow, that's, I'm surprised.

I mean, wouldn't be surprised if Stugat said that. I'm surprised that you've done meticulous research on all of history's theories on the afterlife and you've arrived at it. I was not having day. I did. A corn field with Kevin Costner is not what I, where I thought our story would end up. There are 99 others, but do they have old timey ball players in scratchy uniforms? No, it turns out that's what I want. All right. So, since you're such a sports fan, we're going to try and stump you here with Stugots. He's going to try and stump jeopardize my estrow here with some sports questions.

Let's go ahead and ask the first ones, Stugots. All right, Ken, this person left Oklahoma City for Golden State and won no titles with the Warriors. Who is Kevin Durant? Yes. Um, I think that's not the only one. It's very easy to, it's very easy to stump me with the sports trivia, but those are the former sonics.

So that's my team. All right, okay, but that they won. They won't do a title. Okay, but that they want to do. They want to. Okay. They want to know. They want to know this person won eight straight titles in the 90s with the Chicago Bulls. It's great. It was Jordan. That's right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It didn't win. He won. It's six. Well, that leads to my next question. This used in rocket center from Nigeria never won an NBA title. It was a key in the dream of logical. You are on your game today. And all the not coastline. Is hot. Do you have anything else? This former Clipper and current Phoenix Suns point guard is not a top 10 point guard of all time I think I'm stopped wait, who is this? That would be Chris Paul

Okay, but I don't understand Three or four hundred hundred places to see after you die He just wanted to give you takes and his opinions on things. Ken, thank you for being. It doesn't seem like he agrees. Thank you for being on with us. Ken, we appreciate it. I had a great time. Thanks for having me. Thank you, Ken.