The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 2: Kenny Atkinson And Them Boys

Episode Date: October 30, 2024

We kick off the hour with Against The Spread and Tony comes out firing with analysis about the Cleveland Cavaliers. Greg Cote has a pick this week but manages to mess it up as he forgets the name of t...he game. Chris wants to apologize for the cup incident and own up to his mistake, then admits he is a cream corn guy as well. Then, Jessica Smetana and Lucy Rohden are back with a new episode of Gen CFB. Ope of the Week returns to recap a wild Week 9 before previewing the upcoming slate for Week 10. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:02:06 Tony, kick us off. We got a big matchup in the association tonight. One of three unbeaten teams playing against another good team. We got the LA Lakers traveling to Cleveland. Amin, are you intrigued by the Cleveland Cavaliers? The unbeaten Cleveland Cavaliers? The unbeaten, undefeated Cleveland Cavaliers. I am. That's the same thing. Coach Kenny Atkinson. And them boys. And them boys, exactly. Close to putting in a rule that you got 15 seconds to do this.
Starting point is 00:02:31 Oh, sorry, all right. I'm going to go Cavs at home minus four and a half. I like the Twin Towers lineup. LeBron and them boys, not enough. And that is... Double homecoming. In the spring. Dan wants to give these with heart. He wants to give these with conviction.
Starting point is 00:02:46 But damn, I can't even get a take off. Akron's favorite son and favorite grandson coming back to town. Exactly. Tony! That was good. Billy, over to you. I'm gonna go with... Wait, you got caught up there, man. Did you forget that you had already thrown it to Tony and then you threw it to Tony again?
Starting point is 00:03:04 Tony, that was good. Contract year. Draft Kings wants a sponsored segment that's done well and professionally. Tony, give it to us again. All right, the Cavs. I mean, Twin Towers line up. There's something about that Donovan Mitchell,
Starting point is 00:03:16 Kenny Atkins, and boys. Them boys. I wonder how Amin feels about this matchup. Amin? Yeah. You in on the Cavs? I'm really excited about Kenny Atkins and them boys. Unlocking that offense.
Starting point is 00:03:26 Against the spread! Over to Billy. I'm gonna go with the commander's minus three and a half at the Giants. Really? Against the spread! Okay, two guts. What are you doing there?
Starting point is 00:03:38 He doesn't want analysis, he just wants a pick. Just wants a pick? Last time was too much, this time not enough. I just believe that we need to do this better for draft King. Are we today? We are getting worse at this the pressure is getting higher and higher on Everybody's jobs are at stake. It's a contract year. Our contract is up in in June everybody everybody's up for sale We need to do this correctly. I know what we do here. We bring it home with Greg Cody.
Starting point is 00:04:07 Damn right. Aaron Rodgers is a year and a half into failing New York Jets fans, and yet the Jets are favored against a good Houston team, albeit by only a point and a half. Houston straight up, baby, against the spread. Funny line. Against the spread.
Starting point is 00:04:24 It's against the spread. It's not straight up. Against the spread! Moneyline! It's against the spread, it's not straight up. It doesn't... Against the spread! Start it over, do it again. Pick the spread. Not Moneyline. I thought he was going to hit it with the Scranton. I heard some Scranton in there. In Scranton, we love the Houston Texans.
Starting point is 00:04:40 Sitting around there, all of a sudden my voice changed. What am I doing right now? It used to be the Scranton Texans. If there all of a sudden my voice changed. What am I doing right now? It used to be the Scranton Texans if it's against the spread You shouldn't pick them straight up because the segment is called against against the spread Yeah, of course, but I mean I like them straight up With the the points you're getting to you know like this win the game right straight up I don't think they're gonna win by one point right favored by one, you know getting one and a half
Starting point is 00:05:06 He definitely won't win by one and a half. Right? Yeah as a gag Sure against the spread Yeah Contract here call up the DraftKings people sign that deal right now. I am right before it goes up. Hello. Ask for more. There you go the spread back to you before it goes up. Hello. Ask for more. There you go. The spread. Back to you, Denim. The spread. Coming up later this hour,
Starting point is 00:05:33 Gen CFB is gonna be on, and there you will hear good football analysis, and you will hear good broadcasting, and you will hear something that is professionally done that DraftKings could be proud of sponsoring. Can I jump in real fast with an apology for yesterday? I want to apologize for the cup thing. What do you mean?
Starting point is 00:05:54 Yesterday I got shamed, Dan called it littering, I'll fight still that it's not littering. Dan said that I left a cup on the stairwell for a few weeks, and I did. I was doing a science experiment, but that was inconsiderate of me. I didn't consider other people walking by the cup. I should have thrown it away. It's still not littering, but I will admit that I was wrong for leaving that cup on the stairs. Couple of things, I listened to that segment yesterday,
Starting point is 00:06:22 and all I could hear was Jon Taffer going nuts. You're gonna friggin kill somebody That's black mold right there. Oh shut this place down That's number one number two. We just showed a video someone disposing of the cup. That's me. That's my video I went in the stairwell yesterday, but you kicked No, no, it was kicked. I did that thing was always upright cup the door the part of the door where people Oh, yeah, I think that you all kick it though. No, I'm kicked. That thing was always upright for me. No, not the cup. The door, the part of the door where people touch with their hands. Oh yeah, I kicked that. We all kick it though, to be honest.
Starting point is 00:06:48 I'm not touching that door. Why did you guys? Why not? Because you kick it. Time out, time out. I remember the old garage in the Clevelander. Absolutely, that's the door you kick. You never touch that one.
Starting point is 00:06:59 This is a brand new building, and we're the only people who use the staircase. Why would you kick it? I mean, I have a great answer for you. The reason why, and everybody knows when you take that staircase, no, not only that, it's a very hard door to open if you're just doing with your hands.
Starting point is 00:07:13 You have to get in there and give it a kick. No, hip check, hip check, you gotta hip check. The problem is mine hits me in like the thigh. It's also a dusty door, very dusty door. It is, there's a lot of dust near MMA style just need but that's why I go with a front kick Oh the front kick at the bottom of your foot is nasty you've been walking around all day long now someone unsuspected What if I use that circus? I don't use it. I just want the record cleared. I apologize for the cup thing Well now you have another apology. Yeah, you gotta apologize for putting the bottom of your foot on this on this
Starting point is 00:07:42 Door and how you do it down there. No, not down there. Anywhere else, yes. Dan, it's a brand new building and we're the only ones who use it. It's not like homeless people are having sex in there. Excuse me, unhoused, unhoused. You don't know that. Unhoused gentlemen.
Starting point is 00:07:55 Baby, old women. I mean, I will tell you that I'm perpetually mortified by how disrespectful and entitled our entire environment is about new things, old things, any things. and so it's not surprising to me at all that we would soil a staircase that only we use filled with litter and all sorts of mold and Greg Cody or Chris Cody the bottom of his foot and I don't know what Greg Cody does in that because whatever Chris Cody learned he learned it from this particular person. Look at here, of all, you can litter indoors.
Starting point is 00:08:25 No, you can't. And he did, and I raised you better than that, son. I raised you better than that. I don't litter. I haven't, like I said, I don't throw shit outside, ever. You left an empty coffee cup inside a stairwell. Raised you better. I'm gonna stick up for Chris here.
Starting point is 00:08:41 It's inconsiderate, it's not littering. Chris, I'm gonna stick up for you here. To be fair, the way Greg just said it, it is confusing. He says you can litter indoors. I'm like, wait a second, is he giving him permission to litter indoors? I know what you're saying.
Starting point is 00:08:53 You're saying, yes, littering can happen indoors as a concept, but the way you said it, maybe young Chris was like, but Papa said I can litter indoors and so that's why I can do it. Greg, if Chris was in a bind and he had to litter indoors or outdoors which would you advise I mean that's obviously a trick question it's better to litter indoors and I agree mm-hmm but neither is wait proper it's better to do it indoor but what if it's
Starting point is 00:09:19 biodegradable mmm I mean yeah and in a thousand years that paper cup is gonna disappear. What if it's food and there's like birdies around or like seagulls or whatever, pelicans, and you go out there and you have like a piece of, I don't know, toast or a sandwich or whatever, you can put it out there for the pelicans to eat it outside or you keep it inside and then they can't get to it. I do like wildlife being able to eat on outdoor litter. You know, it's making a good out of a bad, but nothing should be on a stairwell except the smell of urine. Okay, that's the only thing that should be in a stairwell. Come on. No, let's be honest.
Starting point is 00:09:57 Greg, it's a brand new building. Nature's waterfall. No, I'm just saying that's what you expect in a stairwell Yeah, I would rather smell someone else's urine than see a cup that's been littered in my stairwell That's correct Nothing wrong with that now do it in the Joe Biden exactly say it again in the Joe Biden voice Who said that kind of thing in your ear? You just agreed with your slogan? No, exactly somebody said to you that kind of thing and then you said, yeah, that kind of thing. Exactly. It occurred to me to say it. I wanted to emphasize that. I'll admit, I don't mind
Starting point is 00:10:34 the smell of somebody else's urine. Do I want it? Do I seek it? No. But if I'm walking, like this happened at the Clevelander stairwell all the time, you know, thank God. There's not a pile of poop which occasionally there was But if there's the smell of urine in a stairwell, it's like alright. I'm walking down a stairwell. I expect this It's why expect a trip over a half-filled cup that someone's left. No. No, I don't know It was very to the right as close to the walls. It could be well You've apologized and then you go semantics of still arguing that you're right about whether it's litter or it's not litter. It's rude, it's inconsiderate.
Starting point is 00:11:10 I believe you've only changed your mind because the internet shamed you. They did. But I believe that you are just a malleable jellyfish that stands for nothing. That you litter and then the internet says, what a slob, you're terrible, and then you're like, okay, I give up.
Starting point is 00:11:24 You were proudly a litterer yesterday, even though you were arguing the semantics of whether it was littering. Do you still stand for porn? Very malleable, O is pro-porn. And corn, I'll do cream corn too, don't tempt me. Really? Ugh, don't like the consistency.
Starting point is 00:11:39 Who is this boy that you raised? Sometimes I wonder. You raised him better. It makes a little bit more sense now that I know that Greg likes to smell a urine in his staircase. I didn't say I liked it. He didn't like it. He didn't expect it.
Starting point is 00:11:50 Yeah. Thank you. Oftentimes, monsters are not created, Dan. They are bred, right? And so we have a monster here, and clearly he came from an environment that was very amenable to. Yes, Cranton.
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Starting point is 00:13:34 And the only thing I want to see clapping are them cheeks on Mrs. Met in my face, Mike Shirt. All right. So that's one thing. Stugats. They're a bunch of cheaters, Dan. And you know who should be cheating? Mrs. Met on Mr. Met. And he can watch if he wants. This is the Don LeVatar Show with the Stugats. Jessica. Lucy.
Starting point is 00:13:54 Jennifer. Ah, Jennifer. I am feeling the cheesiest today. Is it a day that ends in Y? This is a day that ends in Y. Because we're back with Jen CFB, the two Jen's cutting it up. Yes, in person.
Starting point is 00:14:07 With Cheez-Its. I'm excited. It was a fun weekend this week. It was a fun weekend. You were at Oklahoma, Mississippi. A much better game than I thought, but I really couldn't care less. I took one step into the Grove and said, I'm home. This is where I belong.
Starting point is 00:14:21 I don't need anything else. Alcohol was flowing. I'm sure. I didn't drink. It was a little embarrassing to, because they had these insane setups and one of the tailgates we went to had a whole bartender. And to go up and be like, just a diet coke, please. But poor.
Starting point is 00:14:35 Are you a diet coke girlie too? We got a lot of those in the office. It, one day I woke up and I was like, I need a diet coke. And ever since then I haven't stopped. Wow, I woke up feeling cheesiest. We already did that bit. We already did that bit. Let's move on to the main bit, the bit of the week, which is we're bringing back a
Starting point is 00:14:52 crowd pleaser, a favorite, if you will. Ope of the week. We're feeling very Midwestern. We're going back to our roots. We've got our open week. Good thing that this week was weird. So we had like a million and 10 nominees. Do you want to go first?
Starting point is 00:15:08 Sure, I'll do the first OPE of the Week. This one, the Midwest connection, fairly obvious. It's the kicker at Indiana, not the kicker on the Indiana football team, the kicker at College Game Day, who was kicking for the $100,000 prize winning. He blew out his knee warming up. It was a big ope. To like blow out your knee is bad but to do it where I feel like this year everyone's made that kick. Everybody has made that
Starting point is 00:15:35 kick. Like it's happening more and more. Well the Cal guy did it in Vans. Yeah the Cal guy did it in Vans and then I think the next week somebody did it too. Yeah. It's been happening a lot. So like you had to feel pretty good about your chances. And then to just eat shit on national TV in such an embarrassing way, like, oof, tough. That's a big ope. It is a big ope.
Starting point is 00:15:59 What did you think of Lee Corso at Indiana for Game Day, Lucy? That was a very, very sweet moment. Now we didn't get to watch Game Day live, so I had to go back and look, but I know that I have had some takes before about Lee Corso on Game Day, and I've always loved Lee Corso, I always will.
Starting point is 00:16:17 To sort of see him, his time is probably, he's probably got one or two seasons left at this point, so to see this sort of victory lap that he's getting to take and to go back to Indiana, especially after a few weeks off, was just like an incredibly special moment because he's meant so much to college football and college football fans.
Starting point is 00:16:34 And for Indiana to have the season they're having right now has to be just unbelievably special for him. Yeah, I loved his sweater. Also speaking of sweaters, big weekend for our friends at Homefield Apparel. Big Indiana people there. They were having a good time. They're gonna have to rebrand the 9-win-Diana because they're gonna need way more. 12-win-Diana? 13-win-Diana?
Starting point is 00:16:55 National champion-Diana. I mean, it is good news at Homefield. I'd give you approval. Yeah, no copyright infringement there. Yeah, Indiana, like Bloomington, we would agree, right? One of the most underrated campuses in America. It's nice that- Buffalo Louis, great wings. Yes.
Starting point is 00:17:13 Buffalo Louis is awesome. It's nice that they had their moment in the sun. And hopefully their moment continues, Lucy. Ohio State in two weeks? Yeah, it's a big test coming up, but before we move on to what's happening next week, we gotta finish our OAPs of the week. Yeah, we have a big test coming up. But before we move on to what's happening next week, we got to finish our Ops of the Week. So why don't you give us the next one?
Starting point is 00:17:30 Our next Ops of the Week is the LSU Holder getting smacked in the face with a football and then subsequently chewed out by Brian Kelly, which doesn't sound like him at all. Something must be up. He's always a very normal level-headed guy who doesn't openly hate his players that doesn't that doesn't sound like them for game plan now with what we okay we gotta get the operation there here we go but touch they go I he was screaming at this guy's face in on the sideline and
Starting point is 00:18:03 screaming you got to get out there and get the f'ing operation going, which is such a funny thing to scream at someone. It's crazy because it's like, hey you messed up what are you gonna do? At that point and then ended up not being an issue because I think it's so funny to chew out your players like that and then after the game have one of your players come out and be like, yeah, we did not plan even a little bit for Marcel Reed. And it showed.
Starting point is 00:18:28 Not once. Like we didn't, we had genuinely no, even earthly idea that they might make a quarterback change, even though that Wegman has been out for a chunk of the season too. So just absolute failure, but sure blame it on the holder, do whatever. Yeah, but bad moment for the holder,
Starting point is 00:18:44 but like bad moment for LSU just in general, the second half of that game. Like there was also a very funny OPE moment where Garrett Nussmeyer like kind of like attempted to tackle a Texas A&M player after one of his interceptions, which was kind of funny. But yeah, LSU not being able to defend the QB run at all, maybe does not bode super well for when they play against Jalen Milro in Alabama in a couple weeks, but also they have a bye this weekend so I'm sure that will be something that they will focus
Starting point is 00:19:10 on because that's kind of game right there for them if they lose to Alabama. It feels like there are gonna be a lot of points in that one. It could, yeah, it could. There's definitely like quarterback shootout potential. I think it's gonna be odd. I think it's gonna be weird. I think it's going to be odd. I think it's going to be weird. I think it's going to be odd. But it's like weirdly enough a playoff elimination game, even though I've said that about like every game of the season, but this one's a big one. But you want to move on to our next hope of the week.
Starting point is 00:19:36 Let's do it. All right. Auburn had 14 players on the field for a field goal attempt, including two holders. Yeah. Which I know Brian Kelly, including two holders. Yeah. Which I know Brian Kelly is like, two holders, what a brilliant idea, I should have done it. Auburn had a double open of the week too, because Hugh Freeze had some tummy trouble. Yes, he had diarrhea.
Starting point is 00:19:54 We've all been there. We had an elite illness graphic come out. And it just turns out that Hugh Freeze, when he's shooting himself, is the best version of Hugh Freeze. And Auburn won, and they won pretty big against Kentucky. It's an all-time quote graphic thing with Hugh Freeze that just says illness that I'm going to just get so much use out of, because it's like up there
Starting point is 00:20:13 with the Sam Darnold mononucleosis one, where it's just like, you didn't really need to put that on a graphic card, but. And you can double it up with him in the hospital that giving the thumbs up. Oh my God. So he really has just reached full mean potential. Auburn's still pretty bad though, but Kentucky has just lost three straight,
Starting point is 00:20:29 just huge downward slope. It's the quarterback situation hasn't worked out. Things are just not good. You beat Ole Miss and then that was it. Things are not looking good for Kentucky. Like you said, Auburn's first SEC win of the season and they ran the ball really well and now they got SEC juggernaut Vanderbilt. So at home, so that'll be a big one.
Starting point is 00:20:49 Hugh Fries versus Diego Pavia again, a rematch that we all totally saw coming last year. I think Auburn plays New Mexico this year as well, so they have potential to lose to the entire state of New Mexico, but I'm not 100% positive on it, so you can't get mad at me if it's not accurate. Okay, the next OP of the week is the Texas Tech kicker Reese Burkhart, who wrote MAGA like Trump 2024 on his shirt and lifted up his jersey to show his shirt after a trick play touchdown. The OP part isn't that. The OP part is that-
Starting point is 00:21:21 A little bit. Well, that is very OP. I mean, yes. And also, by the way, very hard to find a Midwest connection in this game, because this is like a Texas Tech TCU is like a very Texas-y situation. Like, Sonny Dykes, what's his name? Joey Maguire, the coach of Texas Tech, super Texas-y. But anyways, OPE of the week on the lifting up the jersey, but bigger OPE, missed his
Starting point is 00:21:44 field goal. Texas Tech lost by one point. This game, I don't know if you watched any of this, it was like probably one of the week on the lifting up the Jersey, but bigger. Hope missed his field goal Texas Tech lost by one point this game I don't know if you watch any of this it was like probably one of the craziest games of the weekend because TCU was up by a lot early and then Texas Tech came up and then TCU like overcame a 17 point deficit at the end So like it was a lot of back-and-forth a lot of run felt like a basketball game game of runs But TCU gets the win Texas Tech loses by one point after that Game of runs. But TCU gets the win. Texas Tech loses by one point after that.
Starting point is 00:22:05 OP showing by the kicker. Hell yeah, brother. You own the libs. Just not TCU. Just not Sonny Dykes. Sorry about that. All right. Another OPE of the week.
Starting point is 00:22:17 This one, a Jessica Smetana special. Navy's sixth turnover day against Notre Dame. Yeah. Navy's sixth turnover day against Notre Dame. Yeah, it was Navy going into the game, led the country in not fumbling, or I think we're second in the country not fumbling. That is no longer the case. Six turnovers in this game. Just fumbling here, fumbling there, interception there, muffed punt here.
Starting point is 00:22:40 It was just a really sloppy game from Navy. But the Notre Dame postgame win expectancy 100%. So you can't just say it was the turnovers. Notre Dame won by 37 points. But I think like my takeaway, Navy's a lot of people are going to write off Navy after that, but they still have the toughest part of their schedule ahead of them. I think what true chronic is doing with their offense is actually like pretty cool. Like there were a number of times where my I discipline watching Navy's offense was not where it needed to be.
Starting point is 00:23:08 Like I was watching the wrong guy and this guy's got the ball, like very tricky offense, lots of motion and stuff. Um, so very much still in it in the conference. We'll see how they do now. They got, they got to play Tulane still, which is a really good team. They got to play army still, which is obviously still undefeated. Um, but not, not their best day at MetLife stadium. They gotta play Tulane still, which is a really good team. They gotta play Army still, which is obviously still undefeated. But not their best day at MetLife Stadium.
Starting point is 00:23:28 So we have a double of a source. Oh, let me squeeze right past you. Oh, let me squeeze right past you there, sorry. Two six turnover games. However, SMU managed to win despite turning the ball over six times. They beat Duke, came down to a failed two point conversion for the Blue Devils. I think something very interesting about this
Starting point is 00:23:50 is that SMU turned the ball over six times. I don't believe Duke ever turned it over and still managed to lose this game, which is just, that's not great. That's not good. Yeah, fumble luck is tricky, but then when you get it and then you still lose, that's not good. an option and just the guy was covered so it didn't work and that was a bummer. But big games for both those teams next weekend Duke Scott Miami, Manny Diaz revenge perhaps perhaps not I don't know. SMU also might get their first like big
Starting point is 00:24:35 big win of the season against Pitt we'll get to that a little bit later but I think before we do that we need to talk about another big ope which was Ohio State Athletics Lucy what What did they post? I missed this. So reading over the notes has just given me a lot of joy right now which probably is bad that I didn't read the notes that closely. I did not see this. That's the one downside of spending your Saturday in the Grove. So Ohio State Athletics accidentally reposted a photo of Urban Meyer from his night in Columbus two years ago. And you can just look it up. I think like we all know what night it was. He was wearing the pink quarters. He was at Urban Steakhouse and he... Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:16 Yeah. That was like a where were you win moment for college football fans. I know he was like the coach of the Jaguars at the time. But like, it was like, yeah, like it was, it was for us. I was at Andy's Custard in Chicago after driving home from a Notre Dame game with my parents. And I was like, holy shit, holy shit. And then I was like, I don't want to actually explain this to you,
Starting point is 00:25:37 but Urban Meyer did something bad. Yeah, they reposted it without knowing that like a fan was holding a sign with a picture of it on it. And they like reposted it without knowing I think what the picture of urban was from very very awkward I mean the whole game was full of OPEs for Ohio State. They made a lot of mistakes in this game Obviously we talked on the LeBata show this week about how their fans were like reacting as though they lost because they wanted to beat Nebraska by a lot of points like Indiana had done the week before and they couldn't. The offense was not what you would expect they could barely run
Starting point is 00:26:08 the ball they've had a really bad time with injury luck on the offensive line they're now down two tackles Lucy which is not gonna be great going up against Penn State. Do you think that this is like a repeatable performance that Ohio State is gonna play like this more or do you think this is just like maybe, you know, big game ahead, they kind of overlooked a tough Nebraska defense? I think it's definitely repeatable because we want to give credit to Nebraska.
Starting point is 00:26:32 Nebraska has a very good defense and has had a very good defense for a very long time. And if this had been any other team that had the exact same players, that ran the exact same plays, that just wasn't Nebraska, Nebraska, though Nebraska would have won that game. They just have like a...
Starting point is 00:26:48 Nebraska's just fated to lose. Yeah, like it has to be just a brutal life as a Nebraska fan to see you leading Ohio State down the stretch knowing that you're gonna throw a just gut wrenching interception, like without a doubt. So I genuinely think that if, you know, any other team had played Ohio State like this, they would have won. Like I genuinely think that if any other team had played Ohio State like this they would have won. Like I just think it's the Nebraska curse. There are issues with that offensive line. Penn State has a good defense but it's not as great as like previous
Starting point is 00:27:14 Penn State years. Their offense has improved. I'm curious to see if we run into the same sort of situation where like we're not thinking in the terms of X's and O's, but just in the sense of football. The way that Nebraska loses a game real close to the way that James Franklin just can't sort of win the big game. So is it gonna be a real just actually come down to the matchup, or is it gonna be the college football gods having agendas and pushing them?
Starting point is 00:27:39 I mean, something's gotta give, right? Something's gotta give with Ohio State and Penn State. One more, or I guess we have a couple more, oops, do you wanna talk about Cade McNamara? Yes, so Cade McNamara, I actually, this is, people are gonna get mad at me, I gave up on the Iowa game after he threw like an 80 yard pick six after Iowa had created a turnover
Starting point is 00:27:58 where we really just had to move the ball like 20 yards when we were to score it in. Cade McNamara turned that into seven for Northwestern. I quit, and then I looked back and I was like, oh my God, Iowa is up by 30. I said, wow, four pick sixes for Iowa, that's pretty good. Turns out that was not the case.
Starting point is 00:28:15 Cade McNamara was hurt. They brought in Brendan Sullivan, a Northwestern transfer, and he pretty much balled out for the Hawks. Cade is not even listed on the depth chart this week. They say it's injury related. I believe that he has been benched. This is a Iowa fans note this trope very, very well. We have had a, we have gone through so many great backup quarterbacks being like, why
Starting point is 00:28:36 are they not starting? Like what is the reason behind this? So it seems like it could be turning in the direction where Brendan Sullivan will be the starting QB for the Hawkeyes and that is what we all want. Iowa could have won like three more games with that, potentially. So I'm sad, Kate, I'm sorry it didn't work out, but like. And the OPE was the, if you're watching this on YouTube.
Starting point is 00:28:56 Oh God, I didn't even talk about the general OPE. It's because I forget that you guys don't all watch Iowa because you're healthy and happy and have life, you enjoy living. Kate McNamara refuses to throw with the laces. Like healthy and happy and have life, so you enjoy living. Cade McNamara refuses to throw with the laces. Like, I'm not even cheating you, he never does it. So he tried like a bomb with just,
Starting point is 00:29:12 like you couldn't even see the laces. They were on the- We just sort of chucked it up there. Yeah. Like, uh, that's not a helpful thing for our audio audience. But you can honestly imagine it. The way that sound is,
Starting point is 00:29:23 is the way Cade McNamara looks throwing the ball. Yeah, I didn't even, I just kind of forgot that that's not a normal thing. So that's the actual opal. I'm just happy that we have moved on and found a new quarterback. But yeah, you just look it up. Look up any photos of him throwing
Starting point is 00:29:36 and he never throws with the laces. And you're like, brother, what are we doing? I cannot believe he led a team to the playoff. Speaking of that team, there was another fight in the Michigan, Michigan state rivalry. I mean, I guess this is Ope-worthy because like, oh, they did it again. They did it again, but I'm getting sick of this Lucy.
Starting point is 00:29:56 Find something new. I'm getting sick of this. You guys should do an opposite bit where you all like do the hokey pokey or something after the game. Oh, the hokey pokey. Yeah, do something fun like that. I haven't thought about the hokey pokey or something after the game. Oh, the hokey pokey. Yeah, do something fun like that. I haven't thought about the hokey pokey in a while.
Starting point is 00:30:07 You put your left foot down, put your right foot down, you put your left foot down. Shake it all about. That's what they should do. They should do, or everyone has to do a truss fall or something after the end of the game. It's not good for the state of Michigan. You guys gotta work on this. Yeah, it's just another fight.
Starting point is 00:30:21 Get over it. You guys are so dramatic. Men are so emotional. Let's so, they're so emotional. Let's go to our week 10 college football preview presented by Hampton Farms Peanuts, the official snack nut of the tailgate. Lucy's holding her Hampton Farms Cajun peanuts right now. The Cajuns are my favorite. I like a little spice.
Starting point is 00:30:42 Ooh. I like a little zest. Definitely love a little spicy peanut. There's a few big games this weekend, Lucy. I think one of the more underrated SEC matchups will be Texas A&M and South Carolina. Low spread in that game. Texas A&M is the favorite. Lucy, obviously we're all paying attention to Texas A&M's quarterback situation. Are they going to do a two quarterback system thing here? South Carolina's defensive front still really good. They've got a good defense and I think it's going to be hard for South Carolina to score points against the
Starting point is 00:31:16 Texas A&M defense, but it also might be tricky for Texas A&M to score a lot of points in this game too, given like we don't even know who's gonna start at quarterback. We don't know if they're gonna do like one series here, one series there, or they're just gonna feel it out and see what's working. I really don't know, we're recording this early in the week, so my guess is both guys probably might play. But that could be a really interesting one for Texas A&M and kind of a tricky spot for
Starting point is 00:31:40 them after coming off that huge win against LSU at home. Yeah, South Carolina is always a just sort of mess shit up type of team. Beamer ball. Yeah, whatever sort of season they're having, it doesn't matter. They're going to make your life miserable. And they're going to make their life miserable, too. They like to do both of that. This is a game I'm probably going to stay away from betting wise,
Starting point is 00:31:59 just because I felt pretty confident going to the South Carolina Ole Miss game that South Carolina was going to do some real like game cock for Tech shit and then just absolutely got smacked. But then the next week they play Alabama really close. They are really just a tough team to sort of figure out and I think that applies to them as well. They are a very tough team for themselves to figure out. The way that TechSaiyan beat LSU was pretty dominant.
Starting point is 00:32:19 Their defense is so, so good that I'm leaning towards there. I feel like after the performance you saw you got to go with Reid. Like I get that Connor Wegman was this super high recruit. after the performance you saw, you got to go with Reid. Like I get that Connor Wegman was this super high recruit. You know, he's been there for a while, whatever. I just think that what you saw from Reid was so impressive. And I also understand that South Carolina is probably going to do the not LSU thing
Starting point is 00:32:37 and actually prepare for it. Yeah, they'll probably defend the run better. I think, yeah, I think like maybe neither option is perfect. Like you're not getting a quarterback with like a elite passing game. But you have a player that can make more explosive plays on the ground. Perhaps it's a tricky situation. Yeah, and one we should all monitor. It's I'm just I'm gonna watch it. I'm gonna keep my eye on it. But I'm gonna stay
Starting point is 00:32:59 away from one thing. I'm not staying away from Ohio State in Penn State. I'm not saying we're either I'll be there. Lucy will be there. Actually, I guess technically I am staying away from it because I'm not going to be there. But like we mentioned, Ohio State has a lot of issues on their offensive line losing a couple of tackles in the last two weeks going up against a stingy Penn State defense. At the taping of this, we don't know if Drew Allar is gonna play because he got hurt at the, midway through the Wisconsin game last weekend
Starting point is 00:33:29 and he was having a pretty good game. And obviously I think Penn State would like their starting quarterback to be ready for this. It's the biggest game of their season so far. And Penn State too has been a little snake bitten with injuries. They've got linemen on both sides that have gotten hurt. So it's kind of tough to make a call on the game without knowing if the Penn State quarterback is going
Starting point is 00:33:47 to play or not. But I do kind of give the edge to Ohio State. I've just like, I've seen Ohio State go toe to toe with really good teams already this season. Like I watched the Oregon game and saw how explosive their offense could be. But I think if there's one weakness that is definitely going to be how the line plays it if they're able to run the ball. Yeah, I'm leaning towards Ohio State too. The quarterback situation is obviously a question for Penn State. And I imagine we're not going to find out who the starting quarterback is until game
Starting point is 00:34:17 time, which, eh, coaching move, whatever. Do what you want. I think Ohio State's going to win. I feel decently confident in that. I know that Penn State has made the changes they've needed to this season. Like their offense is better. They've added some sort of element of a bigger play to their repertoire, but the defense hasn't held off as well as I thought. You know, they've played close games as well. Like looking back at the time a few weeks ago, you know, barely beating USC was a quality win.
Starting point is 00:34:45 And now you're like, I don't know about that. Maryland beat USC, like a very, very bad Maryland team did. So there's a lot of questions. I think that this is probably the most evenly matched Penn State, Ohio State game we've seen in a while. Which is fun and exciting. But this is a real like, I think that Ryan Day has to prove himself, but not nearly as much as James Franklin does, because Ryan Day has lost the Michigan game, but he rarely loses the Penn State one. I don't know if he's ever lost the Penn State one. So I just look at this as this is sort of James Franklin, you have to prove it right now,
Starting point is 00:35:19 because Penn State is stuck in a situation that a lot of teams are stuck in. They're a very good football team, but they've never really taken that next step to great. And this would be a win that could do that for them especially in the 12 team playoff like a win like this would be really really helpful for their case even though I imagine they'll probably make it anyways. But yeah I think I'm leaning towards Ohio State but I think I'd like to see Penn State win. I think that would be more fun. I think like the stakes are really high for Ohio State to state the
Starting point is 00:35:49 obvious. How many times can we say state in this segment? I wonder. I think we're at like 30 in the last five minutes. But they already lost to Oregon. They already have one conference loss. So a second conference loss. It's very similar situation to LSU playing Alabama next week. Like it would be really tough to overcome that and still have a case in the CFP if you lose both of these big games on your schedule. I think maybe the Nebraska game was like a little alarm bell so they'll get it together in the week. You know that always that always works for teams. You get a little scared and then you use it and move forward with it. But gonna be a fun one at noon. Lucy
Starting point is 00:36:26 will be there. They gotta stop playing that game at noon. I'm so sorry. We have got to stop playing that game. It would be a great night game in Happy Valley. It would be such a cool night game. We gotta stop playing that game at noon. Governor Tim Walz also picked Penn State to win. He knows where the swing votes are. One other game I want to mention before we go, Pitt at SMU. SMU is a big favorite. This is another game where, as of the recording, I don't know the status of
Starting point is 00:36:54 Pitt's quarterback. He got hurt during the Syracuse game. That game was ridiculous. I ope-ed so many times. Kyle McCord threw three pick sixes and a half. It was just a absolutely ridiculous game. And Holstein was in late and got dinged up, and I'm not exactly even sure what his injury is, but that would be tough for Pitt if he came out.
Starting point is 00:37:13 Their offense has been a little slower in the past few weeks than the hot start that they came out with, but- Exactly where they want to be. Yeah, and our doozy's like, pump the brakes. Guys gotta stop scoring so many points. We're not a showy team. But, um, SMU's quarterback, very dynamic player, fun to watch. They got a good run game.
Starting point is 00:37:31 And this is gonna be a big test for the Pitt defense. SMU's a big favorite, seven and a half points at home. Uh, 8 p.m. on the ACC Network. I think the winner of this game might actually be taken seriously in the ACC running. I think right now, everyone's talking about Miami and Clemson, but it's hard to be undefeated. I know SMU has one loss this season at BYU,
Starting point is 00:37:49 but BYU is also undefeated. So two good teams squaring off on the ACC network. It'll be fun. We'll finally sort of figure out who the, there's such a jump between the top of the ACC and the bottom. Pitt and SMU have just been right, right there in the sense of like, are you as good as we maybe think
Starting point is 00:38:08 or not? I don't know. This will be a good sort of matchup. I think it's funny that it is on the ACC network. So I'm taking SMU. I think I'm gonna take SMU too. I am bravely taking the seven and a half point favorite. Wow. We are bold and we are living life unafraid
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