The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 2: Lou Tut

Episode Date: November 5, 2024

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New York, New York. This is the Dan LeBattor show with the StuGuts podcast. Five, four, three. Dad, stop clacking when he's counting. I'm not clacking. Thank you. Clacking it. It wasn't me.

We'll just go. We already started. We already, that was the countdown. That was you clacking. Mike, you were gonna say something to Greg? Greg, I caught wind that you might be into the NASCAR playoff chase. Wow.

Caught wind. Caught wind. Is that like a fart? I'm a casual NASCAR playoff chase. Wow. Caught wind. Caught wind. Is that like a fart? I'm a casual NASCAR fan. You consider yourself even a casual NASCAR fan. Welcome, brother. Do you write on it like once every three years? I rarely do anymore.

Obviously when Homestead had the championship race, I was there every year. Greg, Cody, and I would go with Gary Long and we would trek out to Homestead and we would report and stand next to Richard Petty and we would cover the hell out of that sport. Damn right. Look at me, Louie.

Right. Every year, Greg, Cody and I would trek out there to cover the holy hell out of the Homestead, whatever it was called. That's right. Speedway. Homestead, Miami, Speedway. Speedway, that's all you're missing there. Whatever it was called. It should be Miami, Homestead, but it's in Homestead. Homestead Miami Speedway. Speedway is all you're missing there.

Whatever it was called. It should be Miami Homestead but it's in Homestead. Every year we went out there. The drive from the parking lot just to the track was about three miles because there were so many people out there, Greg Cody and I, with Gary Longintel, would cover the hell out of racing. I'm excited that you're here because I don't even have

just a casual NASCAR observer. I'm the only person that's really into NASCAR and I'm curious that you're here because I don't even have just a casual NASCAR observer. I'm the only person that's really into NASCAR and I'm curious your thoughts. We have the big championship race this Sunday. It's no longer at Homestead, which I'm sure you're bummed about. Yeah, terrible. But it's at Phoenix. What are your thoughts? Well, you know what?

At least they gave Homestead a playoff race. I like Joey Logano. I think I know he's done. I think he's the second. Okay, that's it. You bring up Logano in the first sentence and it's over. Never mind. Yeah, it's over. But, Loey Logano. It's over. But I will say this, I think their playoff format is too complicated. I think it turns off fans. For a casual fan. There's like six different layers

where they winno from this number of drivers down to eight down to Final four I think it's complicated. I don't like that You have to take their word for it But in terms of making it easy for the viewer throughout the playoffs they have a live playoff table the entire time Sure, it's so you can kind of catch on to why people are passing but I do find it absurd and I'm genuinely asking for someone that knows NASCAR better than I am and I'm sure there are many to explain it to me as to why maybe they change it because Jimmy Johnson how Kyle Larson is not in the final four even though he has six wins and the final four no one has more than three wins. It's

a total flaw in the system and that's one of my problems with it is that it doesn't put enough stock in the long regular season. This sport goes a calendar year. It's like baseball. They go from early in the year to very late in the year. Six wins should automatically be in the final four if it's much more than anybody else. I think that what what needs to happen is the final four, you're gonna think this is crazy. I'm the only one saying this. The final four. Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.

Let me gather myself. The championship four they call it. You're the only one saying it though. Hold on, everybody. He let me say it. Everybody settle down, okay? Because you've been elevated here for a while, and I'm gonna let you say it,

but you're promising the audience right now something that no one else is saying. You're going to have a racing take about their playoff format that hasn't been said by anybody and I wanna give you properly the floor so you can deliver that correctly, please. When it comes to the championship four in the final race of the year,

those should be the only four cars on the track. I knew it, we knew it. Mike said it, Mike said that's what he was gonna say. I love it! There should not be 30 other cars affecting the race. It should be the final, the championship four should be the final four. Four drivers, four cars, and that's it. Yep. And that's it. You don't have like somebody, you don't have somebody starting 34th who's crazy and intentionally driving into cars, ruining the race. Four only. That's my plan.

I am the commissioner of sports. I love it. Thank you. Bravo. Thank you. And that's the incarnate word. Yes, well put. I do. Well put. Let's make me a biblical preacher

who is spewing the ward of God. I think the ward is God. I think the ward is Jesus, technically. Greg Cody. Dan, the NFL news, it never stops. Diana Rossini is reporting, and I can't believe she's reporting this, North Turner is back.

No! What? No! He is back as an offensive consultant for the Raiders. This is not breaking news. What are we doing? You're abusing the sounder. No, that's big.

That's how you do it. That's big. I don't know what's going on across that sport, but also Dana Holgerson is back as a consultant for Nebraska. No way. Wow. So the consultant is a new thing now with Robert Salah.

That this is a new thing we're doing. This all purpose coach who comes down and gives us his football thoughts. Exactly. Norv Turner. How old is Norv Turner? He's over 70. Norvell?

He's 72. He's the only ever Norvell first name He's over 70. Yes. Norvell? He's 72. He's the only ever Norvell first name I've ever known. Yeah. Who's the world's second most famous Norv? Hmm. Hmm. I know the second most famous Norvell, but that's his surname.

Right. I've never heard the first name Norvell. Nor-Val. Is it Norval? Norval Turner, not Norvell. Norval? Wow. Put it on the poll please.

Interesting. At the Levitard show, are we still making Norvs? And I don't know whether we asked it earlier, are we still making Mals? We've been a little name obsessed today, he made him Hunter Travis. I do still think we're not paying quite enough attention to the fact that there's someone who seems to be good enough

as an athlete at Colorado to play wide receiver in the nfl or to play cornerback in the nfl because he can do both very well little bit unusual but since we're name obsessed today something that i could that just came across my feed that made me i hadn't thought it before anderson cooper do you have anyone in sports around sports or entertainment who has a first name that is both a first and a last name and a last name that is both a first and a last name? Is there anyone like Anderson Cooper whose first name and last name are both a first

name and a last name? Hmm. A ton. Yeah. If we're doing like technically like Kevin Gregg, Gregg Cody, I guess. Michael Jordan, Jordan Michael. Are you saying just like in terms of being a newsman? Because that we can really nail it down.

I don't think Michael's the last name. Yeah. It's Michael. George Michael. Al Michaels. George Michael. George Michael. Okay, you're right, George Michael.

You guys think there are a ton of these? Oh, there's a lot of them. George Michael, Michael George. Does the person have to be a CNN anchor also because then it's more trick that would narrow it down Yes, John King King is not really a look at King Charles King rice King James. It's not a first name. It's a title It's a royalty Kings not a name. It is a name. Yeah big time. Yeah first name. Yeah. Yeah King rice what do you mean?

King out there Morgan Yeah, first name. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah King right? What do you mean? Morgan Carol King Stugats, do you have a top five miles? Do you have top five miles? I only have four Five are you ready? Are you ready for top four miles from? Doesn't even have a fit also King tough might be the first ever nickname King is not King Tut's first name Yes, it is Yes Isn't it Tut? Luigi Tut? I think it was King, it was King Lou Tut, yes. L-O-U.

Huh. I don't know what King. Number four. Are there any Tuts? Number four. Mal in the middle. I regret going to this list. Number three.

He's full time on the Craftsman Truck Series series did you know that number three Mal Gladwell? Thousand hours number two Mal X What are you pointing at the camera for with finger guns in salute of Stu gots his shitty joke because the idea that Malcolm X was referred to as mal X by his friends is funny to me I call him X people probably thought that about two-ton common and then they're like hey tut It is the first ever nickname Put it on the poll please juju Do Malcolm X's closest friends call him now

What number are we on number one? My oh geez. I'm sorry. I don't know what happened. No one was ready for it. You did No, I was gonna go mal Kuyper jr. And I had to tell Dan before I did it that I had a fifth and it's mal Kuyper jr. What number one is Malcol Jordan and I had to tell Dan before I did it that I had a fifth, and it's Mal Kiper Jr. But what just happened? Number one is Malcol Jordan. Oh, well. What was this list again? Top five Mal's. Top five Mal's.

That are also first things and last things. The only thing that's saving me is, in my mind, I'm imagining a four-car NASCAR race on a super speedway, and I gotta tell you, this idea rocks. It does, thank you. I think Dan is malcontent right now. I'm imagining people walking up to King Tut and calling them Luigi. Lou for short. That's ridiculous. Michael Jordan, you get it? Yes I did get it. It was good. I didn't know why you went Spanish. MJ. and family safe. Simply Safe is a new way to protect your home that stops intruders before they break into your home. Old school systems

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Shred them this is the Don LeBattard show with the Stu gods I This is the Don Lebathear Show with the Stugats. I wanted to ask you guys something that Jason Kelsey found himself in yesterday because I was really, I don't know whether you guys found this interesting or not, but Jason Kelsey and Travis Kelsey have had put on them and have grabbed at an enormous amount of opportunity that usually just goes to the quarterbacks on how you build this sport to the future with its future broadcasters. Andrea Mitchell. And Andrea's not really a last name. Andrea? Is Andrea a last name?. Shelley Andrea, yeah. Andrea? Billy. Jason Kelsey opened last night by apologizing and I've gotta be honest with you, Stugats,

where I often want people to just be their maximum self. And I think Jason Kelsey has largely been his maximum self and I've liked who that guy has been. Chris Wallace. Chris is not a last name. Darren Chris. Yes, it is, it's a last name. We're looking for common last names.

But common Anderson Cooper, Anderson and Cooper, those are both common last names. Oh, common. Just one name, first and last. Yeah, common, thank you, Billy. Excellent work. Common, common, common, common. There you go. First and last. Yeah common. Thank you Billy. Excellent work. Common common common common.

There you go. Jason Kelsey finds himself last night, and this doesn't happen to me very often. I didn't want him to apologize. I didn't want him to have to apologize, but he is a father. Jane Paulie. And he seems, Jane is not a last name. Thomas Jane, he played the Punisher. It's not a common last name. No it is. I have a last name Thomas Jane. He played the Punisher. Mm-hmm It's not a common last name. No, it is. I have a friend named Allison Jane. How about that?

It's got to be a common everyone in Allison Jane's family's last name is Jane Mary Jane No Jason Kelsey Has to protect now a brand an economy an assortment of things that corporate opportunity will bring that will make him i think a slightly less authentic version of jason kelsey than the one i prefer it sort of the pressure of what it is to work for disney and amazon and have all the opportunities

but jason kelsey said he didn't want to meet hatred with hatred by tearing up someone's phone but i thought jason kelsey was behaving in character there as I would expect a football player to behave when you disrespect him in public. Right. And so I didn't think he necessarily had anything to apologize for, but I feel like a fool for arguing on behalf of you shouldn't apologize for destroying someone's phone. Well, he was provoked into doing it uh... what ice when i first saw that i said my wife he's gonna get in trouble for that

obviously is going to replace the phone and he's going to do the apology tour but i'm glad he did it and so i think you and i are on the same page here he was provoked his his brother was insulted and he reacted emotionally and and i don't blame him for it but he reacted as I would expect Jason Kelsey to react right it's not

even that he reacted emotionally he's apologizing for behavior that I think is in character with who I believe Jason Kelsey to be well he also may have been apologizing for repeating the slur that's what I that's the way I took it like he was apologizing because he he says I fought hate with hate. He used the word, if the guy said asshole, he probably would have said any word back to him. But you just can't use that word. So I think that's what the apology was for.

Understood that, understood. You think he doesn't apologize at all if it's not that word in there? You think that there is, I'm asking you because Jason Kelsey and Travis Kelsey are, I wanna say embarking, word in there you think that there is i i'm asking you because jason kelsey and travis kelsey are i'd i want to say embarking but they're not embarking anymore they've arrived at a roller coaster in a rainbow that has all of hollywood's opportunities in

front of them these opportunities do not go to the center and tight end ever like it's not sometimes they go to know it's always the quarterbacks that they have come to become a royal family of football. Does their behavior have to change? Because I thought you were hiring Jason Kelsey to be Jason Kelsey. I'm with Dan. I think we fell in love with the Kelseys

for being the Kelseys. I would hate to see them change because of the opportunities in front of them and because of the platforms they have. Right. I think that he would have apologized regardless, but I do think that the vast majority of people would have done the same thing he did, or at least excuse him for smashing the kid's phone. So, either way, he comes out looking pretty good in it, because not only

did he give a genuine heartfelt apology, he stood up for his brother and stood up for himself against some dork that was trying to go viral Yeah, that that's the annoying part is that the guy filming him and obviously provoking him was really wanted to get exactly What he got was that kind of a reaction that would make news and that would become viral So what are we doing though in this time of this economy for the Kelseys. I wanna ask you guys. Reese Davis. Reese is not a last name. Warren Davis. Jack Nicholas. Marcel Reese does not have a last name.

It's not a common last name. It has to be spelled the same too, by the way. Is Jack a common last name? Gabby Reese, I mean. You're telling me that it's not a common name when they have an anchor called Wolf Blitz. Jared Jack. If I told you his name was Blitzer Wolf, you'd be like, that's ridiculous.

Jack Nicholas. How many other wolves do you know? Nick Wright. Yep. Matt Damon. Wright Thompson. St. Nick. There you go.

Thompson Wright. Yeah, that one actually kind of works. What was King Tut's real first name? Tutankhamun. He's got one name. He's Cher. It's Tutankhamun. I don't think they did first name last name.

Jack Nicholas is our best one so far. Okay. Thank you. What about Liam Michelle? It says the guy who said it. Jess said it. He's it's tootin Connor. I don't think they did first name last name Jack. Nicholas is our best one so far Folks the NBA is finally back a new season means new ways to get in on the action at draft king sportsbook an official Sports betting partner of the NBA who's draining threes from beyond the arc who's crashing the boards who's grabbing rebounds get behind your favorite players and The prop bets you can make on DraftKings, the home of NBA player props. New DraftKings customers bet $5 to get $200 in bonus bets instantly. Every point counts with DraftKings Sportsbook. Download the DraftKings Sportsbook app and use code DAN.

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They call him Pooka. Pooka. Pooka Nakua. Pooka Nakua. His quarterback is not named Tuah. Yeah. Yeah, he is Pooka. Pooka, Pooka Nakua His quarterback is not named Tua Yeah, he is Pooka, Pooka, Pooka Nakua This is the Don LeVatar Show with the Stugats I uh, I hate to say this because I'm genuinely, usually when I see Nick Wright's face it makes me

happy because his ascent in sports media is uncommon and I love that all the things and gifts are coming to him that sports have to offer but and sports media have to offer but the reason I'm annoyed by him now and I don't like his face is no it's just because you come in with 14 straight Chiefs wins and it's like your team is an underweight City verse everybody. Yeah, I'm sorry. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. All right, but oh Oh my god, everyone the Chiefs have so broken everyone's brain That every that now the postgame. it's a Zapruder film of like, hey, mid-second quarter,

they called a face mask instead of a hold, and those five yards would have changed it. Oh, they missed a false start. As if anyone believes, okay, give them the false start, then guess what happens? Mahomes beats you. Everyone's such crybabies. They drafted Todd Blackledge in 1983. The

next Chiefs quarterback, hold on, the next quarterback drafted by the Chiefs to win, not a playoff game, one game was Patrick Mahomes. And I got to listen to people, they went 40 years. I got to listen to people be like, oh, you're so lucky. Shut up. Shut up and eat it. You guys had Dan Marino for 20 years. Sorry, you couldn't get it done. I know there's gonna be people be like, oh, you're so lucky. Shut up. Shut up and eat it. You guys had Dan Marino for 20 years. Sorry you couldn't get it done. I like the Packers had Farve Rogers forever. Sorry six years on my homes is by any measure better than 30 years of Farve Rogers. You guys can all shut up.

And this idea that they got lucky are the refs. Oh, it's rigged. Shut up. Good to see you, Dan. All right, four shut ups and you wonder why it is I'm not happy to see. The Obnoxious Sheaves fan now gets to win all the games. All the games, all the close games, all the third, all the third down passes he completes, all the fourth down passes he completes.

Nick Wright, two first names. We already did this, Steve Martin was prop comic, it's how we introduced him. But I will say, I wanna have the best tone possible though, because it's been a couple years where we've noticed this right tackle, and it's been explained to me by certain cheese fans that he's not actually doing something illegal.

But it looks illegal, and it's not like end of game stuff. He gets a chip on every play. It's not end of game stuff, it's something like, you can watch an entire football game, like what is happening here? I'm asking you, I'm begging you. He's a cheater. I'm just begging you, like can you explain it to me like why am I wrong

why is it not illegal exactly I'll tell you exactly it I'll tell you exactly what it is he smartly said hey who's the best right tackle in the league they said Lane Johnson let me watch his film and what you'll see is Lane Johnson for every snap of his career has done that exact same thing. And no one's ever cared about it, because what are we talking about? Like, I can't believe, of all the things to discuss, we're talking about a potential false start. And I apologize, Dan, for telling you to shut up. But it was more the ro- like, you know, the royal we, it was the royal you.

And by you, I mean all the morons out there who are trying to ruin the nfl season by made by going with these anonymous twitter accounts who figured out the way to get aggregated is that is to snapshot potential missed calls it's a terrible way to watch sports it's an awful awful way to watch okay and another awful way to watch sports is you getting to win them fourteen straight weeks your team always wins you've got the best water back on the be better you are obnoxious somehow when there is tony lined up offside we also i lined up on side but it just wiped out an awesome play patrick mohomes and more whining and crying than you accuse us

of doing and since then he's had a very beneficial whistle and there have been a lot of close calls at the end of games it's true though but you're like what can I say Cincinnati game was a little soft but it's alright oh Mike can I ask you a question yeah so here's here's a thing people like to do they like to say that was the right call but it made me sad so I'm gonna whine about it was the Cincinnati call the right call or not? At the end of the game no I don't think that was the right call this time no. I think that you guys got lucky on that one. Okay okay. But that happens over the course of the season you don't need to apologize for

that I'm just asking about like the right tackle why I see it like all game if I'm just like not informed on the rule Maybe maybe from the luxury box is the next offense game You can pull up the YouTube stream of an Eagles game and watch watch Lane Johnson Okay, and see if so there's two cheaters that I can so I can fix it on two cheaters again again I don't eat the there were a lot of things that I thought we'd talk about today the minutiae of Offensive line play and start I'm stunned by it there were a lot of things i thought we talk about today the menu she of offensive line plays on by a star i'm still going to have a job not just faces the problem the problem is the chief my face is not obnoxious my face is crooked now there's a difference

it's about your face which is why it's not a weird spot dan as a beer guy hold on as a bearded guy you can empathize with this if my beard gets perfectly done professionally it looks crooked because my face is crooked. So what do I tell the barber? Like hey cut it crooked so it looks straight or cut it straight and it'll look crooked. I'm in a weird spot. You have a perfectly symmetrical cherubic round face. You told me to shut up and now it's cherubic. Look, this boy's getting disrespectful.

Look, I know he, I know, no, no, wait a minute. Three shutups and a cherubic? Three shutups and a cherubic. I don't wanna, I don't wanna get not invited back. I don't wanna get disrespectful. I listen to the oral history. I know we're not at a comedy club, but that can go left on people.

That's right. So I'm gonna, I'll be very careful. I'll be very careful. Thank you. I am made happy though. I'm surprised Nick is not playing the game correctly because his team has won back-to-back Super Bowls at 14 straight games and has the best defense in the NFL. Just say scoreboard. Stop being so defensive. Just say scoreboard. But here is where I will tell will tell him nick right i'm proud of him in a lot of different ways but this part this part he disrespects

the honor of what he's supposed to be as an entertainer and slash journalist and societal commenter when he goes to the kansas city parade and he's on every float and he's how good hugging every player and he's the voice of Kansas City in a way that's totally compromised. Like biased, not in any way objective. Can't even aspire to objective. Doesn't know how to find it.

Poppy was all on the floats, I was on the floats. That was my father, it was not me. Hold on, wait a second. Am I being lectured by Dan Lebatard Am I being lectured by Dan Lebatard about not showing a personal affinity on a national platform to your hometown team? That's correct. While aspiring to objectivity. Is that what's happening here?

That is what's happening right now. You embarrassed us by hugging the Kelseys, by being on all the floats. You have to have some level of decorum as someone who represents the uh... the media of kansas city nationally uh... well i mean listen i told you once upon a time long time ago i'd to be looked at don't show that picture uh... right now it's not good. It's a good picture. Of not just face and all. Can I tell you something right now? That face is so crooked. That's, my face is crooked and my nose is casting a shadow on my teeth. This picture is better. That's a better picture. This picture I'm okay with. The other picture is really unfortunate. It's really not great.

And I don't, God, the last time I was on with you guys, the guy in the background, it looks better than me. Tell you that much right now. If you're, if people are just listening and not watching, I'm seeing a cursor like create little boxes to try to zoom in. This is really, really highly unfortunate. I just want, I want the audience to know, okay? Again, here is, here's my day today. I did, I did What's Right with Nick Wright

and finished 10 minutes ago. In an hour, I go on with Colin. Two hours after that, I do my show. Then I'm flying to Vegas to play in a poker game with Gronk and Hellmuth and some other people. Very busy day. I like your chances against one of them. Hold on. Hellmuth? Just wait a second. Wait a second please. Very busy day. Despite all that, when I got the text, hey, LeBattard would like to have you on on Tuesday,

I said drop everything, let's make it happen. What do they want to talk about? It is election day, the chiefs play Monday night football. They're like, we'd love to have you on, talk about both. I said, okay, we'll cut the pod short I'll get to work late because I haven't been invited back on this show in months so I'm like gotta make it happen. We're now 10 minutes in we've talked about Mike Ryan's fetish of the Jawan Taylor's right foot and my misshapen face. This is messed up. This is not what I signed up for here.

I tweeted out just for you guys my electoral college map just to give you a nice little entry point if you want to talk that. And if you want to talk chiefs we could. Instead we're talking about this poor fella who just happened to be at a chiefs game and now you guys are being mean to him and you're being mean to me. This is god dog it.

Nick, how did it feel to be in a political cartoon and be the representation of Josh Allen haters? I loved that. That was a true, so can I have a, what do the kids call it this, the, when you're, when you're being too genuine, like one of those moments. So growing up, my dad ran the Kansas City Firefighters Union for 30 years, and the Kansas City Star had a very anti-union cartoonist. And so around our house were five or six different originals of cartoons depicting my dad either as like a pseudo mob boss

or the firefighters being jerks or whatever, that whenever one of those cartoons would show up in the paper, my dad would call the paper and buy the original, buy the original, snap by it and Frank put it around the house. And when this thing showed up in the Buffalo newspaper, and it doesn't say my name but it's clearly me, you can tell from the hair, the hair the nose the beard and let's be honest even in cartoon form the impeccable suit it's clearly me I hit the guy up and I was like you got to sell me the original and he did credit to him and so I loved it I thought that was one of the dopest

things ever and I've actually been a Josh Allen guy this year because I've never been a Josh Allen hater I've been a Josh Allen truth-teller and i've actually been a josh allen guy this year because i've never been a josh allen hater i've been a josh allen truth teller and i've been everyone's like all nigger chiefs guy like i don't know i've been more right about the bills that i've been about the chief some other people been right about the chiefs last year's no one's been as right about the bills as me and this year i think they're good

i'm sure you guys thought the dolphins were going to put it together this year with two up thirty yard or a alright i don't want to talk about the chiefs anymore i do with the last ten minutes of your very busy day that we have with you i did want to have you on uh... election day not just after chief's victory because i told you a long time ago i don't know how early it was in your career but you would splice stop on television about five minutes of commentary on race

that was very high degree of difficulty i didn't see it done very much on television cuz television generally doesn't have the room for it on election day in it and america that must confuse you even though from kansas city you've seen and lived around all types and you've seen kansas city boo unity on on opening day because we've all thought about Kaepernick for eight years to sort of welcome in this time in America. I give the floor to you now to talk about what is happening today because I don't know your level of fear and I don't know how disappointed you've been by America over the last eight years I Well, I'm gonna take if the floor is really mine

I'm gonna take in a slightly different direction because I don't know that I have the right to be disappointed I the I don't think Anything that's happened the last eight years is Anomalous to things periods of time and things that have happened over the 250 year time we've been a country I mean that we try to act like oh my god we've never seen this but I mean Woodrow Wilson hosted a you know a Klan movie in the White House like we have with a we we had a chance at the country having a

true racial reckoning, and then post reconstruction or the end of reconstruction to basically guarantee a White House, they said, okay, we'll just, you know, we'll pull the troops out of the South and you're on your own for the next 70 years. We used to live in a time of political assassination, just with regularity.

So I try not to be hyperbolic about where we are, because to me, it lionizes where we've been and I think we are who we are as a country and we are attempting to be a truly multiracial democracy and you know it's fits and starts. What I will say is this, it has become popular to say you should not judge people for their politics. And I'm just here to say, please judge me for mine. I want to be judged for my politics. I think that who you are politically is very often a very true testament to who you are.

And so if you ask me my values, that aligns with my political leanings and my values are who I am. And so I get bothered by this idea that it is a failing to judge people for their politics. I don't think it's a failing. I think it's what we're supposed to do. And if you have had your eyes wide open the last decade

and you today are like, listen, I like what Donald Trump represents whether it is because purely, like some of my buddies who are big in the poker world, I'm pretty convinced they are a single issue voter and the single issue is their crypto portfolio. And they just think Trump will be better for crypto. So they're going with him. I judge you for that.

Flatly. Listen, I make a ton of money. The idea though that I would vote one way based purely off top marginal tax rate, I judge myself for that. You can, but you deserve in my opinion to be judged for that, positively or negatively. And so that's kind of my takeaway, this idea of like that, oh no, yeah, of course it's a private decision, but if you publicly espouse support for something

that I think is anathema to what the country is supposed to be, which is a multicultural democracy where because we're the richest country to ever live, which is a multicultural democracy where, because we're the richest country to ever live, we have a built-in, legitimate, long-term social safety net, you can feel differently, but it probably means I wouldn't enjoy a dinner party with you. So that's, I don't know if that answers your question,

I apologize, my internet connection's bad right here, but that's how I feel. Well, we enjoyed, though, the idea of you saying you make a lot of money while we couldn't get your Wi-Fi. Right, we enjoyed, but I didn't get, if anywhere in there you're afraid or you're just, okay, your scales were not pulled from your eyes, you've been paying attention to American history,

and yet still, to see this overt a racism uh... make an appearance in its most contaminated corrupt uh... obvious form uh... by leadership uh... still a bit stunning still a bit stunning watch it get this close to the throne all no doubt and certainly people were previously more polite than they are now but the here's the here's the thing that was stunning to me. What was stunning to me is like I said I'm flying into Vegas tonight for this poker

game and I had to have I had like a real talk with my wife. Like wait, cause she was gonna come with me. And I'm like, ah, I feel like we shouldn't both leave the kids on election night. How do you play? And both go to a swing state on a like, that just, and I know that sounds ridiculous, but just the tiny bit of

like, eh, could shit really go sideways over the next 48 hours? Like, the idea that that was even in my brain was an indictment on where we're at to a degree. Before we get you out of here, Stugots and Greg Cody want to change all of sports and they want you to make a ruling on this because they don't want last night's game to simply be a victory for Kansas City. Can we go back to Vegas for a second? Because the reason I said Hetty Play

is I think Nick just wanted to go to Vegas without his wife. Hetty Play. Honey, it's an important election. Democracy's in balance. Our kids need you. We can't both be there. Swing state.

In Sin City. Swing state. I gotta play poker on election night. I'm doing it for the democracy, honey. And I'm doing it for the kids as well. I should go to Vegas. What's the damn question? What's the question?

Should the final NASCAR race only have four cars? The question is whether or not Greg Cody and Stugat should be given the all-encompassing power of giving the Tampa Bay Bucks last night six points for a good loss and docking Kansas City a couple of points because they, you know, winning in overtime, not that impressive. We're trying to change the standings here, Nick,

because sometimes teams are injured, sometimes they do have a quality loss like the Dolphins this weekend that was a quality loss a QL and so we're just trying to change the standing so I happen to think that there are certain times with a loser actually has a better night than you've won 14 straight with the Chiefs they want to change the way we know the standing no no this is just for the final playoff spot the last wild card spot goes to the team with the most quality losses. Okay, so I think the final playoff spot is unnecessary. So if we wanted to do a thing where that seven seed didn't go to the team with the seventh

best record, but a team who like finished the season the best the best record over the final six games. Hot at the right time. The hottest team. Yes. That I think could actually be interesting. Right. And I'm not opposed to that. Thank you.

I think that could be a good idea. What I don't like is this because I, Dan, I don't know if you know this, but a couple weeks ago I turned 40 and the moment that happened, you know what? I started to feel like people are like, oh as you get older your politics will get more conservative that didn't happen But my sports takes certainly got more conservative. I'm all about taking the points now. I I'm a big punt like guy. There are a lot of things I'm running the damn ball. I like a lot of these things a lot more than I used to. And I see these guys like Ben Solak who I like and Warren

Sharp who I like. They're like, well, in 11 personnel, they're always great. And I'm like, you dope. Don't you realize that you got to feed them up with two tight ends to get in 11 personnel? So here's the thing the reason I say all that I I think we have gone too far There was like once upon a time was like winds are a quarterback stat and then smart people I think we're like well actually winds, you know with his quarterback can play well even in a loss or poorly in a win They're not a quarterback set but now we've gone too far to where wins are not even a team stat. It's like well you won but what does that matter? It's like I just I do think wins are a team stat and the analytical community

is out here telling me the six and three Ravens are the fourth best team ever and I'm like I don't know man they lost the Browns and the Raiders. They're like, ah, it doesn't matter. Their DVOA is off the charts. And that annoys me. So I do think wins are a team stat, and I would like to keep it that way. Nick, good seeing you.

Thank you for making time for us on a busy day. It's always good seeing you. It makes me happy to see you, even though right now I hate you. I just hate you. Love you guys. Be safe Talk to you guys soon. Good luck tonight. All right. Good luck in Vegas man. Have you played? Stugats here for my friends over at simply safe the holiday season is right around the corner

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