The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 2: Make Saturday Nights Great Again

Episode Date: February 19, 2025

Stugotz is longing for a different America. An America where Saturday night means something. An America where you can watch The Loveboat and cap off your night with a funny version of SNL. Then, Stugo...tz delivers his Weekend Observations including a shot at Draymond Green, the Top 5 Best 3 Words In Sports, and the Rick Pitino PHD. Also, it's time to normalize women being taller than their partner, but it's also funny to laugh at Kevin Hart's height. Plus, how did we break into a "Face of Basketball" conversation? Can SGA be the face of the league? Anthony Edwards? Wemby? And can a bowling ball be a bowling ball if it doesn't have holes? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:28 and on time each month. Rise to rewards with the BMO Eclipse Rise Visa Card. Terms and conditions apply. This is the Don LeBattor Show with the StuGuts Podcast. ["The B-Mode Clips Rise Visa Card"] David Sampson is pissed at us because he was supposed to be on today and we've flown in Darren Revelle to do that business off with him, but now we've got to cancel it because Stu Gotts is fired up about his weekend observations. He hasn't had a chance to do his weekend observations and he is coming in a roaring
Starting point is 00:01:05 you have to understand that right still gots has not been able to get off his takes here in a couple of days because it's gotten crowded around here and he wasn't here in in in the beginning of the week well that's the reason but he just said under his breath in a way that andrew hawkins agreed with that made me feel like that is to got to his prime that is the best Stu gots can do in the giving of takes. He just said Saturday nights used to mean something. Yeah, different time and you had such great television on Saturday night. You had Fantasy Island. You have love boat and
Starting point is 00:01:40 then if your parents were nice enough or if you could sneak away into doing it, you would stay up until 1130 to see Saturday night live you would actually see it live That's when Saturday's meant something back in the 80s. I mean you are 138 years old yes the love boat When did the love boat air I've only ever like heard like jokes referenced by my grandparents about the love boat air? I've only ever heard jokes referenced by my grandparents about the love boat. Or like on South Park or something.
Starting point is 00:02:08 I feel like though you've captured the essence of why SNL feels different now. Because it's not cool to stay up late and watch it. You're an adult. Yes, you just. I agree with you. When I was a younger person and I stayed up late and watched Dick in a Box,
Starting point is 00:02:21 it was the funniest thing I'd ever seen in my entire life. Goat sketch. Someone's Dick in the Box happened last month on SNL and I just wasn't watching. That is a great sketch. Lonely Island, I can sing Chronicles of Narnia word for word, bro. What pulls a Narnia? The performance that the Lonely Island had.
Starting point is 00:02:38 Wake up in the late afternoon, call Parnell just to see how he's doing. Yo Sam, what up, Pawn? Yo Samberg, what's cracking? You thinking what I'm thinking? Narnia, shit is happening. The whole thing. That's in the last 25 years.
Starting point is 00:02:51 That's in the last 25, bro. Take it from there, Dan. The concert did like a whole Lonely Island montage. It was so good. It was really good. They had Eddie Vedder play the Michael Bolton role. That's amazing, man. It was so good.
Starting point is 00:03:03 Love Boat, so SNL shouldn't be Saturdays. Right. It shouldn't be at night. And it shouldn't be live. It should be what, Thursday evening taped? Yeah, the last episode of the Love Boat, by the way, was 1987. I was born in 1986.
Starting point is 00:03:17 The first episode was 1977. Are you kidding me, man? Captain Stubing. To get to the point that Stugatz is making there though because uh... he does come from a time as do i three channels saturday night is uh... the love boat and fantasy island and then saturday night live uh... that that and and saturday night live was a treat but that the narnia skit is like the other day it's the original it's it's almost that uh... it's the original point of this stuff goes viral you have to do no
Starting point is 00:03:49 longer have to be somebody who watches it when it happens it's where late-night television got destroyed is you can get it whenever you want to you don't have to wait to get it live and that's an amazing development i appreciate that nineteen seventy seven the love boat alabama's first black football player was 1971. This is how long ago, this is how long ago it was. There was nothing but Cooper Dejeans back then.
Starting point is 00:04:13 You understand what I'm saying? This is a, times change. America longs for that time. Yes, you're over here trying to make America great again. I'm just trying to make Saturdays great again. We're just trying to get some funny sketches. I'm just trying to make Saturdays great again. We're just trying to get some funny sketches. I'm on a love boat.
Starting point is 00:04:27 There should be a mashup then. I'm on a boat, there you go. Time now for Stugatz's weekend observations. It is time for Stugatz to share his game notes. No one in the media will tell you what happened better than my boy Stu. Weekend observations brought to you by Miller Lite. Din in 1980, in a little town I like to call Lake Placid.
Starting point is 00:04:56 They captivated the country's heart when a team of scrappy college kids went and shocked the world and toppled these Soviet juggernauts. Sure, there's an occasional TJ Osh moment here and there, but they really haven't had another moment that compares since. But Saturday, that all changed. Really? When they beat our neighbors from the North. Do you believe in miracles and now this time it's their tournament to lose and they're taking
Starting point is 00:05:31 the ice with a chip on their shoulder and Dan just like that make no mistake about it USA hockey is back Jessica rolling her eyes at this. I thought the Yukon Huskies would be back this week. I'm not gonna lie. But it was a good one. Do you have that as the second biggest American hockey moment then beating Canada and a made up tournament? Yeah, I did. Yes. You don't know so more moments. The gold medal game. I have a little town I like to call Lake Placid the 96 World Cup hockey right and oh she go here. Oh she go there
Starting point is 00:06:12 The Stars didn't play in the last two Olympics right like this is Patriots at patriotism is back Patriotism yeah, but they have to win because if they lose the championship that is all for nothing terrible Yeah, but we're also fighting Canada. I mean they did beat Canada. They beat Canada at their sport. That's what I'm saying. And they won like in Montreal. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:33 You gotta do it for the championship game. Then you guys brought PK Saban on that same week. And we didn't talk about the Trump stuff at all. At all. At all. I lived in Montreal in the height of PK Sabanine. Oh, you talk about a superstar, bro Yeah, you talk about a superstar in a city. He knows I was poor He was rich. I was poor
Starting point is 00:06:59 We've cheapened it I need a look at me Louise I need a look at I need more look at me. All right speaking of back st. John's the Johnny's top ten Big win over Creighton over the weekend you watch it then I did not great team tenacious defense senior guard play Experienced coaching don't be surprised if the Red Storm find themselves in the Elite Eight.
Starting point is 00:07:28 March is coming. Oh, March is coming! We played some Patino sound yesterday from the locker room. Patino's back. He is back. So back. I like him that. So back. You've been making fun of him having sex. Not anymore. For ten years you've been doing it I don't know how patino got back
Starting point is 00:07:48 st. John's top ten went over Creighton Congratulations to Adam Silver He somehow replaced One bad all-star game with three bad all-star games What are we doing? what was wrong with East versus West huh put it on the pole what was wrong with East versus West huh if
Starting point is 00:08:12 Dalton connect is playing in your all-star game guess what not an all-star game put that on the pole as well is an all-star is if Dalton connect is playing in your all-star game is it an all-star game? If you want to see change, commissioners should be up for election every four years. They're skating by, Dan. That's a good take. I don't like that at all. I like it.
Starting point is 00:08:35 The new commission? That is a good take. Yeah. But who votes? I don't know. The players. Because they'll just keep voting for the guy that does what they want them to do.
Starting point is 00:08:43 That's exactly how it works. Yeah, exactly. The players. Because they'll just keep voting for the guy that does what they want them to do. That's exactly how it works. Credit to Victor Wembenyama, the rare player giving effort in an all-star game. Wemby, he'll stop giving effort in like two or three years, right? It's just a newness for him? Like, he thinks he has to go out there and try? He doesn't. I'm glad he did.
Starting point is 00:09:04 But he doesn't. Who is't. I'm glad he did. But he doesn't. Who is asking for this much Kevin Hart? That was a take from the weekend, right? Did we all arrive there at the same time? At the same time now? Put it on the poll, Kevin Hart or Mr. Beast? Number one, Auburn. Visiting number two, Alabama.
Starting point is 00:09:24 The Iron Bowl. That's a put the kids to bed game. Four p.m. tip off. But I was serious. I think Jessica's feelings just got hurt from how little effort you put into that fake laugh for her Mr. Beast joke. Do you know who Mr. Beast is?
Starting point is 00:09:41 No, no, no. But I supported you. You you did Marshawn Lynch Yeah, ballot beast mode to me It's my mr. Beast. I called them in Australia And I told her to go to bed It was 11 a.m No show on Presidents Day. Put it on the poll.
Starting point is 00:10:07 Have you ever put the kids to bed at 11am because you thought, you didn't know it was in Australia. I forgot she was in Australia. I thought she was in Syracuse. I called her. I told her to go to bed. She said, Dad, it's 11. What happened?
Starting point is 00:10:20 No show on Presidents Day. The Ellen LeBotard stands for loves himself a long weekend. Dan Lebatard, taking Presidents Day off despite hating the current president. Dan, the StuGOTs is strong in you. It's a federal holiday. Oh, is it? He's the president of the company.
Starting point is 00:10:40 You took a week off. You took an extra Tuesday after the Monday off. Friday and Monday, that's it. I mean. What was yesterday? I don't know. I mean, he doesn't know time zones in Australia. Monday, President's Day, Dan said we're all taking it off.
Starting point is 00:10:53 Tuesday, lacrosse game. I didn't say anything. It's a federal holiday. If I showed up, you wouldn't have been here. I mean, I was here, you weren't. It's a federal holiday. I didn't choose to make it a federal holiday. You weren't here, or any of the days before it
Starting point is 00:11:08 Interesting if you need someone I was here Thursday, I mean Thank you If you need someone to play a flamboyant man from the south Your first call is to Walter Goggins and your second call is to Walton Goggins to offer him even more money. What? You know I got mixed up Walter Walton it should be Walter it's Walton Walton Goggins is the guy you call and if he says no you call him again and you offer him more. I'm starting to think that you're not writing me. Draymond Green. Because he's watching so
Starting point is 00:11:44 much White Lotus. Saying I love White Lotus. Are you kidding me? Dreymon Green saying the Warriors will win the title. Ha! That's all I got. Dreymon, don't write any checks that Steph Curry can't cash. Dreymon should thank Steph Curry every day for making his career. Draymond Green in Detroit is Rodney McGruder. Rodney. There he is. That would be good for Roy to have there. It would be, but I'm doing too much stuff right now. Spend in place. Yeah, it's a push. Leave Roy alone. I mean, you wanted the Rodney there, didn't you?
Starting point is 00:12:23 I said it. Would have been nice. A heads up would have been nice. Heads up would have been really nice for a producer. I mean the Rodney you wanted the Rodney there, didn't you I said it What a nice? Really nice for a producer. Yeah, yeah, I mean he has the script Taylor script it's there. It's right there. I don't have it. Are you manually pushing the beeps? Yes. Yes That's great timing William Byron one back-to-back Daytona 500 the great American race You know what the B and Byron, one back to back Daytona 500s, the great American race. You know what the B in Byron stands for? No.
Starting point is 00:12:50 Back to back. You know what the W in William Byron stands for? Who the is William Byron? I thought Lugano was back to back Billy. No. It's end of the year. That's the whole champion. Exactly, whole kid in Kabuto. William Byron, due to Talladega. Dega. Buzz Peterson is
Starting point is 00:13:12 advising UNC on who to hire as their basketball GM and his first move was to tell them to interview Buzz Peterson. Buzz, the Joe Bailey, and Stugatz is strong in you. That's a good story. Hawkins, just real quick, Joe Bailey, Dolphins CEO, didn't hire Mike Tomlin, went with Cam Cameron instead because Mike Tomlin was too hip hop. Too black. He was hired by the Dolphins to do a national
Starting point is 00:13:44 and international search for the next Dolphin CEO. And he found him in the mirror and he named himself CEO of the Dolphins. That is the joke that he's making there. Well, he knew that candidate the best. He interviewed well. Yeah, he interviewed great. Killed the interview.
Starting point is 00:14:01 Wow, exactly what I would have said. Stash this away in the something the Ponderfile biggest star in their respective sport Jimmy Johnson the football coach or Jimmy Johnson the NASCAR driver No need to discuss now. Just stash it away for a rainy day The only Kyle Busch you'll get after a race is a frustrated Kyle Busch. It's all he's got.
Starting point is 00:14:31 Take your word for it. I mean, win a race once in a while. Even then he'd be frustrated. Which, which Bush is the one that hung up on us? Kyle. George. I mean, that was a good guess. 50% shot. I don't recall. They were both kind of surly. It was Kyle. George. I mean, that was a good guess. 50% shot.
Starting point is 00:14:45 I don't recall. They were both kind of surly. It was Kyle. I think. I don't think you're right. It feels more like Kyle, but Kurt was also. It was Kurt. I think it was Kurt.
Starting point is 00:14:57 Did you just need to hear the name? I think it was Kurt. Well, he didn't know who the second Bush was. Yeah. I was pretty sure it didn't sound like Kyle. I was like, I think it's, but I wasn't sure it was Kurt either. It was Kurt. Royal find it. Hey, other sports watching the four nations tournament. Take notes. That's how you all star break. Dan, you know what you say? If you have four nations, nations I do not they say you have a great tournament
Starting point is 00:15:26 They do they don't say you don't have one nation They just say you have a great tournament this four nations thing is the greatest thing to ever happen to hockey and all-star games Jessica's skeptical. I don't think she thinks you believe in anything you're saying right now I just you can't get when you start a game with a I haven't watched a second. How many games have you watched? None of it. I just, you can't get one. When you start a game with a fight, you've got a good one. It was Carl Bush. Told you.
Starting point is 00:15:52 Do you have the sound? I do, it was 52 seconds. All right, we'll do it at the end. Okay. Dan, this Thursday, USA Canada, the best three words in sports, winner takes all. Top five best three words in sports. Oh wow.
Starting point is 00:16:13 That's an important list. Number five, touch them all. Number four, for the win. Stunning development here on the Kyle Busch front. What happened? We hung up on him. Well Dan did. Dan did. Dan did the Vegas blackjack dealer thing.
Starting point is 00:16:35 He's like, all right, we're done here. That's crazy. You go from Kurt Busch hung up on us to we hung up on Kyle Busch. We hung up on Kyle Busch. That's how we just did it. That's right. Now I see why you don't respect black history. Shit talker. You like to change it. Number three, first and goal.
Starting point is 00:16:54 Number two, defense wins championships. Wouldn't it be fourth and goal? And number one, Michael Jeffrey Jordan. Why would it be fourth and goal? Because it's stakes. You love first and goal. No one likes fourth and goal. No, but it's stakes. No, but if you have first and goal and you get yourself to fourth and goal there's a big problem. I mean there's stakes. Alright put it on the pole. Better three words first and goal or fourth and goal. First and goal makes me happy. Fourth and
Starting point is 00:17:19 goal makes me nervous. I know, but why are you only thinking offensively? I don't know fourth and long. It's probably even better than fourth and go but hmm It's my list footage your backs To everybody that does mock drafts. We don't need your mock trades enough But when the mock draft comes out, that's all trades that one is electrifying every spring. Saturday Night Live. Oh get over yourselves. The only anniversary you should have been celebrating is the 25th anniversary since the last time that show was funny. You know what the S in Saturday Night Live stands for?
Starting point is 00:18:02 in Saturday Night Live stands for? Sorry, we haven't been funny in 25 years. SNL, do it on a Saturday. Lorne Michael, do it this century. Michaels. I don't care. Make me laugh. Okay, but I mean, Lazy Sunday is in the last 25 years. Nobody loves a chirp like Dan Hurley loves a chirp.
Starting point is 00:18:26 It's true. What happened to him? He's really fun. Seriously. And arrogant. They won twice, back to back, like Ligano. Lazy Sunday was 16 years ago. OK.
Starting point is 00:18:36 They made it. Dan Hurley calling a fan baldy while being bald himself. Hurley, the Stugatz is strong in you. Bald on bald crime. I thought they stuck together. No? You don't call another bald guy Baldi? Sure you do, man.
Starting point is 00:18:53 No you don't. Absolutely. I call Kevin Hart short. Yeah, but it's not an insult to say, hey Baldi, if you're bald yourself. That sounds like a bald person's take. Jessica's got some Kevin Hart takes. Like Jessica speaks for the internet.
Starting point is 00:19:08 I don't know how it happened. Kevin Hart has been overexposed for a long time. I'm surprised that this is the moment that people are objecting to it. Not wrong. It's Black History Month though. He sells underwear with his face on it, doesn't he? He does. He's a short king. It's hard for me to just rail on the underwear.
Starting point is 00:19:27 He wants to be a billionaire. That's why he works that way. He wishes to be a billionaire. I'm not saying people haven't mistaken me for Kevin Hart in airports more frequently than I'd like to admit. Okay, I think it's the style too. It's very similar. I don't know, man. I agree, maybe not at the All-Star game. Right. We're in agreeance, Jessica, don't you worry. Rick Pitino says you need a PhD to play at St. John's. A passion, a hunger, and to drive. Gooseies.
Starting point is 00:20:04 Pitino. I'm back in on him. Yes. Goosey's. Oh, Petito. I'm back in on him. I mean, you gotta root for the vampire. Societal shift. We're good. I think you wanna read some of the details of his past, but also some of it is just like, ah, the FBI got there before the NIL.
Starting point is 00:20:20 I've read them all. Passion, hunger, and drive. Pretty redundant though, right? Yeah. Okay. Just making sure we're all- Goosebumps though, I mean seriously. Is it da drive or drive? Like which was the D? Just drive, just drive. Okay, gotcha.
Starting point is 00:20:32 That pro choice was surgical, Jessica. I didn't say that. I don't doubt it. It has to be almost. Well, not anymore. Well, most countries. Mack McClung, the best dunker ever? Please, the hell are we talking about?
Starting point is 00:20:47 Speaking of hell, Arp Riles, Dan, those are the weekend observations. He's not the greatest dunker ever. It's absurd. It's absurd. Does he have the most trophies though? I don't care how many trophies he has. Do it against John Moran, do it against Jordan.
Starting point is 00:21:02 The slam dunk contest happens in the forest. No, but I'm simply asking I'm asking more and I'm not objecting to his take here I'm actually bad ideas write that down for that would be interesting contest in the forest Folks did you know that sleep is one of the most important parts of recovery Whether you're a pro athlete or just looking to crush your day getting the right kind of rest is key And that's where sleep number SmartBeds comes in. Since 2018, Sleep Number has partnered with the NFL to help elite athletes get quality sleep that they need to perform at their best.
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Starting point is 00:24:55 Listen, I will never have the relationship with Aaron Rodgers that I have with the guy that I thought was Aaron Rodgers. I mean, that is the greatest conversation I've ever had with my cornerback. This is the Don LeBattar Show with the Stugats. Can we watch the Kevin Hart video now? Because as a self-proclaimed short king, I do want to know what your reaction would be if you were in a situation where there are several extremely tall women sort of like mocking you for being much shorter than they are and trying to take selfies with you. Let's do it. Let's take it. Who are the women? Rekia Jackson is one of them. Dijonay Carrington is one of them.
Starting point is 00:25:36 It's a bunch of WNBA players. Okay that makes sense. I've been down low, take this turn Kevin. It doesn't? I took it. You would be the fool in this car. Come on, come on. Oh, no way. We got paid. We got paid. For what? Come on, come on.
Starting point is 00:26:00 Wait, wait, wait. Wait, look. Look at that, he's taking a picture with him. That's so stupid. Sadler. Close the eyes. Don't hold the phone from that angle, Kevin. Doesn't help the situation.
Starting point is 00:26:11 Looks like a toddler grabbing a phone. I love this video. They're so tall, and they have one, Heels, too, which I'm sure makes them even that much taller. Heels do that, yeah. They do, man. But when you say toddler, I mean, he looked like Brad Williams, like, he looks so much smaller than them.
Starting point is 00:26:28 I have a number of, some of my best friends are former women's basketball players, and they are super tall, and we hang out and they put on heels, and we are walking around, me at five, eight, with my heels on, and them at six, four, and it is a sight to see. I have pictures, maybe we can put that on the poll. No, we need to normalize this by the way,
Starting point is 00:26:50 because this whole thing of like women can't be taller than their husbands or men or whatever. It's just wrapped up toxic masculinity and it's just, it's a terrible mindset to have. You should be able to date or be with whoever you wanna be with, regardless of who's taller or shorter. However, it is very funny in this video, seeing how tiny Kevin Hart looks.
Starting point is 00:27:11 It's funny watching Kevin Hart get bullied by women's basketball players. And then, I didn't see that video, but now his post on Instagram makes more sense where he has a picture and he's cut off all their heads, purposely. I did not know he was getting bullied now he is very he is very likable Kevin Hart I don't know has mastered anything quite as much as he has mastered that he can sell all things because you like him like it is I don't
Starting point is 00:27:42 know that a lot of people would say to him that you're one of, I mean, I don't know people would put him in the highest of the high classes of comedians respecting other comedians, but as a businessman, you can make the argument he's the best there's ever been at making money through comedy. If you ask me would I trade the injuries for the money that I've made
Starting point is 00:28:01 as a professional football player, I would tell you no. And I would ask you, would you trade being 5'3'' for a billion dollars? I would probably tell you no if I was that too. I mean, that's a solid trade-off. It's life. You're just taking two inches off. You're giving me a billion dollars?
Starting point is 00:28:18 Yeah, man. Was he the first to sell out football stadiums as a comedian? He has absolutely mastered popularity, but I was surprised to see it turn this weekend. Like he's been this for a long time and has masked whatever is the greed of capitalism with enormous charm. That's his gift.
Starting point is 00:28:36 The issue is he's become the easy button for everybody. And it's like, just throw a little Kevin Hart on it. And I remember Kevin Hart when he was doing indie films and he was hilarious right, but to Jessica's point like he shouldn't be in on Everything like there are certain places where the joke does not Correlate I don't even remember saying that was that my take. Oh, I don't know I don't I thought the sentence is now and what we had too much Kevin Hart a part of the weekend of the NBA I mean she has voiced like a lot of people this weekend
Starting point is 00:29:08 Objected to Kevin Hart having to be a part of everything. Yeah Maybe Lucy said it. I don't Jessica's like do not put that on my name I would still like to be in a Kevin Hart movie one day if the opportunity presents itself There's a lot of Kevin Hart's he's just one of those actors that like you always see. Oh yeah he's everywhere. Yes, he's everywhere. Yeah, he's too much. His resume says I'll do it. I wanted to ask you Hawk about some news item here that came across on a very very slow sports week. Shay Gilgis Alexander has let go of his agent. Well, he's hosting SNL next week,
Starting point is 00:29:48 so that's a weird time for him to be doing it. So he's let go of his agent, and this is the best team in the sport, best point differential in the sport. This is the worthiest challenger to the Boston Celtics, and he's let go of his agent and when he did that i thought to myself well he doesn't need to give an agent a percentage of what will be a supermax contract because oklahomis oklahomis
Starting point is 00:30:13 city is rigged the game so that they got the draft picks and they can lock them up and you can pay them more and it's going to be hard to get any free agents to ever do what you know to ranch at a hardening westbrook escaped from okc this guy could stay there for life and be paid supermax after supermax what does he need an agent for can you answer that question for me can't i cannot sit here and in explain why you need an agent if he is like i am going to be here we're just gonna supermax this thing out until we can supermax it out anymore there is a point in time for athletes in in my opinion, where you don't need an agent.
Starting point is 00:30:46 And this is the time for him because the max deal is a slam dunk, right? Like he's gonna get that, why give up 15 to 20% of that money to an agent? Well, it's not 15 or 20%, but why give up 1%? Why give up any of it? I wouldn't wanna be a part of your agency, for sure, with those prices.
Starting point is 00:30:59 But also, if he knows that he's gonna stay there and it's gonna be a super max, yeah, and if you need to eventually be like, hey, I gotta get the hell out of OKC, I'm gonna need an agent to do so, then you'll sign it there, but you don't have to give up the three, the four, the five percent, whatever the hell it is.
Starting point is 00:31:13 And they'll line up to sign you. But think about what the money is we're talking about, because we've arrived at a place in sports where the numbers are so astronomical that what he's giving is, what is it, tens of millions of dollars that you'd be giving an agent? So on a super match?
Starting point is 00:31:25 Yeah, probably like more than 30 million bucks if he signs like a 300. Geez, yes. I don't think it's 10%, but even if it's 5%, it's more than, it's a guaranteed deal. He needs a business manager though. He needs people, because right now, I saw the other day, Stephen A. Smith,
Starting point is 00:31:44 they were discussing during a slow time face of basketball stuff and making the argument on behalf of the and and and words and talking about foreign player can't be the face of basketball kathleen heart but if this if this player wins the championship this year toppling the celtics
Starting point is 00:32:03 he will catapult and that's the best team in the league and they're young and they're gonna lock him up and he doesn't need an agent if he does not get hurt they can be running the sport soon and it's going to feel a bit like it came out of nowhere not to basketball people obviously but his stardom has not yet yet arrived he's basketball famous he's not any other kind of famous i mean he's like he has the potential to take probably the spot that they were
Starting point is 00:32:27 you know it felt like job marant was sending into as kind of the face of basketball and like but shades continue to play really well doesn't get into a lot of trouble doesn't have some of the headlines that you saw from john that moment if you with the championship it validates in that way i'm kinda with them and i don't think he needs an agent they just normally take home four to ten percent of a player's annual salary just so we all it validates him in that way. I'm kind of with him, man. Like, I don't think he needs an agent.
Starting point is 00:32:45 Agents normally take home 4 to 10% of a player's annual salary, just so we all, we're all clear on that. But you're right with Shay, Dan. He has not crossed over yet. Like, I, this is how I gauge it. When I ask my wife, do you know who SGA is? And she says no, then he has a, he's not a massive superstar. She knows John Morant. I, maybe, perhaps because he got into trouble, but she is aware of who job marat is she has no idea who s g a s i will say in terms of how uh... however these things matter on who presents well right to jaylen brown is saying some form of what do you mean criticizing me
Starting point is 00:33:18 that i'm not interesting enough to be face of the league this is generally what it looks like it plays in the right market in terms of style of play, dominating a team, young person, but does not have some of the imprint that you might want for AI style. Like when we talk about John Morant, when we talk about- What a pro wants, didn't do it for you? When we talk about what it is gets to inherit the league I would be curious how she Gilgis Alexander's being managed because it is an entire economy LeBron's passing this league over to the young people they're going to fight for
Starting point is 00:33:54 whatever remains of the stardom and the money and the sneaker power and he's in line like he's if he wins a championship what has to happen next for you guys to be able to anoint him as something better than Anthony Edwards, something better than Luca, something better than the young stars in the league? He doesn't have it for me. I don't know what it is. Probably a championship and probably a really good
Starting point is 00:34:19 performance in a championship if I'm watching that championship. There's no it factor. Yeah, and- That team is fun and they fool around in interviews. They're purposely young. They connect with a different audience. But that kind of guy has to win like five championships. I think so.
Starting point is 00:34:32 He does. I think so. It's kind of, SGA's vibe is a lot like turn of the century Spurs vibe to me. Like I'll take your word for it. He's a great player, no doubt. I'm just not that invested. If I were Canadian, I'd get it.
Starting point is 00:34:46 But who gets to decide this though? Where, Mike, where it relates to young people? No, I'm not. Well, thank you very much. Put it on the poll. Does Mike get to decide the face of basketball? Mike thinks he gets to decide. I don't get to decide the face of basketball.
Starting point is 00:34:59 I'm with you on this though. Victor, because I think Victor's going to be that. No, it's still LeBron. You know where I'm at with basketball. I read KD's tweets, and I'm like, I don't think he's being sarcastic or an a-hole. I think he's being serious. And I'm like, okay, I agree wholeheartedly with every single thing that KD is saying. I think he's genuinely saying, hey man, we don't have the passion that you're looking
Starting point is 00:35:22 for, go watch hockey. I know his reputation is such, I know, I know this is hard to believe, but I think he's coming from a pretty genuine place in my, if you're questioning our effort, it's a different sport. Please go watch hockey. You will like that. I don't think he is saying like like, like a jerk, like, well, it's more fun to complain about our sport than the watch it. I think he's kind of being serious., he knows the game right now you turn on first stake They're talking more about like the drama around the game than the actual game itself And the NF and the NBA has benefited from that for a long time
Starting point is 00:35:55 But now that the games aren't as compelling there's more blowouts to the games because of the style of play It's hard to work myself up for a game. Why can't Anthony Edwards be the face of basketball? I know he said he doesn't want to be that. The team's not good enough. That's what his take was? My team isn't good enough for me to be the face of basketball? No, he wasn't saying. I'm not sure he wants that.
Starting point is 00:36:15 He just sort of said, Wemby's got that handled. I think he's saying that Wemby cares more about how all of that is marketed as well. I don't think Anthony Edwards is so interested in some of these trappings i think you will be the face of basketball i i guess i pressure that comes with that all i know there's a pressure i don't think he cares about and i think in today's day and age of what the face of basketball is is going to feel a lot different going forward
Starting point is 00:36:39 then it has in the past in almost him saying that kind of put some directly in line for it because when you watch them in the playoffs last almost him saying that kind of puts him directly in line for it because when you watch them in the playoffs last year tell me you didn't feel something Stu tell me you didn't watch Anthony Edwards talk to KD his idol yeah in those moments and you'd be like man this is someone who does not care about his friendships he doesn't care about LeBron he doesn't care about any of these people and that's what you want from the face of basketball
Starting point is 00:37:03 someone that cares about it like the way Mike is saying that KD admitted that most players don't. But the face of basketball has always been basketball's pretty much basketball's best player. It's been Magic, it's been Michael, it's been LeBron, right? Those are the faces of basketball, correct? Anthony Edwards is not there, man. Well, but no one's allowed to be where we've been for 20 years They've kind of hogged it right LeBron and Steph have hogged it for NKD have hogged it for For 20 years all of it and now it's time for the for the youth for the young people I kind of feel like it's Caitlin Clark right now. Yeah wrong. Good shout. Good shout American whites man. Oh, you're so right about that. It's tough.
Starting point is 00:37:45 Crazy. Cooper flag coming up. I do think that's what they're making the way for, man. I do think that there might be a correlation between the general lack of it. Look what's happening with tennis now. Tennis, it's starting to get a little bit more attention because American males are starting to be better at tennis.
Starting point is 00:38:01 And you see what's happening in basketball. That's why everyone got behind John Moran so much, like, okay, finally, like a marquee American star player here. MVPs throughout this decade, European, trailing back to the end of the last decade, I think that there's something there. Markable US superstar in his prime, the way that LeBron was,
Starting point is 00:38:20 I think that that's the disconnect right now with the audience in part. Probably, and you got Dan saying, Yoke-age is better than Michael Jordan. Like that doesn't help what we're trying to do here in America. During Black History Month. During Black History Month.
Starting point is 00:38:34 Something he's been on record saying he does not have respect for. I know man. Nine days left. Billy, I saw during this segment on the face of basketball that we somehow stumbled into accidentally. I saw that you seemed distracted by, was that a bowling ball?
Starting point is 00:38:51 What has happened? Not just any bowling ball. It's a big surprise for tomorrow. What do you mean? What do you mean? What has happened here? We don't wanna give too much away here. Someone decided to mail Greg Cody a present
Starting point is 00:39:05 that appears to be a bowling ball that was made just for him years ago as a promotional tool with a Dolphins logo on one side and a Miller Lite logo on the other side. And there are no holes drilled into said bowling ball. So Greg, when he comes tomorrow, if he's coming tomorrow, whenever he comes again, can have this bowling ball seemingly personalized for him
Starting point is 00:39:26 and use this bowling ball moving forward should he want to. Wow. Hmm. Solid. And that's what I was looking at. Is it something that has holes in it? No, it has no holes drilled in it.
Starting point is 00:39:38 Yeah, and he can have it personalized. Exactly right. Have you opened it? I kinda wanna open it. That's the thing is I'm conflicted. Do we open it or do we leave it for him? It's not gift wrapping. I kind of want to open it. I that's the thing is I'm don't know do we open it? I'm gonna leave it Which probably means it's got an old-school Miller light logo
Starting point is 00:39:54 Make sure it's not something that'll put you in jail because you can't just be opening random You know I can see I can see the logos through it. Okay You know we're good. Okay This week we all go around the room and say our favorite basketball player. Mine is Josh Hart. Who's yours? You gots my day Jordan? Yeah all time or today right now, right? I was gonna say all time Josh Hart favorite basketball players a crazy take that I'll time but I wanted you to drill down I love him so much. All right that I wanted you to drill down into. Right now, I love him so much.
Starting point is 00:40:22 All right, I've liked him from my time at Chelsea. Stu gots you up. Brunson. I've got a legitimate question. Is it and can it be a bowling ball if it doesn't have holes? That's legitimate. Yeah, but he's gonna get hit for his fingers.
Starting point is 00:40:35 A car could have no wheels. But is it a bowling ball if it doesn't have holes? Oh. Wow, this is pretty dope. Yeah. What would you call it, a marble? Big marble. They sent a marble big marble? They sent him a big marble. I still have a bowling time. That is beautiful
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