The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 2: Marty Smith Will Not Complain (feat. Lucy Rohden and Marty Smith)

Episode Date: December 2, 2025

"You really are Scooby-Doo." Lucy is here to talk about the Ole Miss student body's freedom at their pilates classes, a fake Kiffin dog, and a Turkey Trot prank. Then, Marty Smith joins us to discuss his time LITERALLY chasing down Lane Kiffin, a task Dan seems to think made him sad for some reason, and shares all the details before he makes Mike Ryan dance. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Ryan Day versus Michigan. Let's see how the game plays out. Rose isn't here, so there's no risk of pepper spray this time. Do you feel like it's appropriate to call this game a rivalry if only one side is winning? It's always a rivalry. No matter who's winning or losing, it's always a rivalry. Not really. It's really just like a little, like a great school and then a shitter school.

Like that's kind of it. That's all it is to it. Yeah, I mean, even though Ryan Daywell had pee coming down his leg later today, it is a rivalry because, you know, like, I look at all these people wearing red right now. I just feel like they're just like below me. It is a rivalry going back to the War of Toledo in the 1800s, so this is a long time coming. All the Hawaii State fans crying on Twitter, oh, this game doesn't mean much anymore. Oh, blah, blah, blah. They go crazy for it.

It's all they think about 364 days a year. And today we're going to win for the fifth straight time, and they're going to go home sad just like the last four years. TJ, you got to take me through the fit today. What are we wearing? So we got Michigan pajamas on. And you're warm enough. I'm so warm.

I have three hoodies underneath this, some thermal pants on, so I'm really, really warm. This is our everyday look. So we just woke up, you know, little makeup. We're so a week we bleed base in blue. Yeah. So this is just our true spirit coming up. Are you guys a couple?

Yep, we're married 10 years. 10 years. How do you make it work? Um, we, it's hard. He literally crosses out all of my M's on Christmas stuff. In the whole house. Ooh, go blue! So are you two friends?

No, I don't know, I just met this guy. Oh, okay, so what's your first impression of each other? I don't like him. He talks too much. He's wearing the wrong hat. And your impression of him? I think he's soft just like Ohio State's defense and their coach Ryan Day.

Is there anything redeemable about Ohio State? Um, they sure know how to spell their state name. No, not at all. I mean, I'll give them credit. Like, do I like red sometimes? Yeah, but like this color in general is just really, really ugly. Like it makes you want to throw up when I look at it right now. Nothing.

No, no. Like the school down south. Michigan's above them for a reason. They're also little brother. We own Ohio State. We will always own Ohio State. What is one nice thing you can say about Ohio State? It creates really great people.

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You lost a day and it could guarantee a national championship this season. Is that like a bargain you'd be willing to make? Um, unfortunately yes, because the national championship is the best thing. Wait, wait, wait, wait. Five minutes ago, you just told me the complete opposite thing, so now he's lying for the TV. That's not true. That's not true. That's not true.

Oh, okay. That being said, we're going to do both so it doesn't matter. Harbo devalued the game of 2019, and I think Michigan lost, what was it? 6335. By a lot. By a lot. And we learned from that year, you cannot do that because it's just bad karma, bad juju. You've got to value the game.

Because if you beat Ohio State, you're most likely going to be a national champion or in the playoff, whatever. And it's the same thing for Ohio State, even though they're going to deny it, like, what they do. Do you value the game? I value the game so much. And we're going to win it this year. We're going to win it next year. We're going to win it for the next 20 years because we're better than Michigan. Our program is better than Michigan.

Our coach is better than Michigan. Everything's better than Michigan. You've never seen Michigan lose to Ohio State of students here. No, no, and we won the championship in our freshman year, and we're going to win today! Sike! Dan, that is a wrap on off-roading regular season number three. This one was so special. Thank you guys for following along, watching, loving.

Anyone who didn't love it, I don't acknowledge your opinion because it's wrong and it's bad, and we did a really wonderful job. I want to say specifically to you, Dan, check out those expense reports. because I barely spent any money. I didn't even buy anything this whole season. Not one singular hat did you pay for, which is actually kind of messed up now that I think about it. And I think you should retroactively give me a gift card or something so I can go buy, you know, hats.

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for live for live streaming now. Don Lebertard. He seems like a not nice guy and he's always been a not nice guy. I don't care for him and I hope he has the day he deserves. Oh, let's see. Stugats. I hope he has the day he does. deserves. That's how I get people when they're really mean to me. I'm not like go F yourself. I'm like, I hope you have the day you deserve. It's a great kind. It's a great kind

insult. Yes. It's beautiful. It's leaving it to the cosmos to sort it out. That's a less southern bless your heart. This is the Dan Levitar show with the Stugats. I have noticed, Lucy, that you have kept expenses down this season, although we did get hit hard at the beginning of the season with all of these college towns and hotels where you have to stay that are awfully crowded. But I appreciate you staying within budget this season and doing another fantastic job.

We've got two more appearances from Lucy. She's going to do the Orange Bowl back in Miami, and she's doing some of the games. You're doing something this weekend? next weekend, when are you doing your next game? You're doing your next game in a month? Yeah, we're going to do the first round of the playoffs, so the ones that that's at the homeschool, the most expensive one. Yeah, I assume that you're going to spend on an assortment of souvenirs to catch up on lost spending. Did you find the Lane Kiff and stuff as funny as we found it and interesting as we found it? I think that I reached like my fatigue level yesterday

where I was like, okay, I don't know how much more of this I can take. But overall, yeah, I thought it was pretty funny. I mean, like, this is the most just Lane Kiffin being who Lane Kiffin is. There was no way this was ever going to go casually. Like, this is, it's what Maya, Maya Angelou, when someone shows you who they are, believe them. Lane Kiffin's done this a million times before. And guess what? If that Alabama job ever opens up, he's doing it again. Lucy, you reach the point. You're tired of this story? Marty Smith will join us in 10 minutes. Wait, you guys, look at my t-shirt. It's a link. Do you see it? I got it at Tennessee. It says, hey, Kiffin. Payback's a butch.

I'm going to get expense for that. We're going to get expense. We're going to get expensed for that. I expends this to you like two years ago. You didn't notice. Dan, did you see Lane Kiffin in one of his recent tweets? You put out like a Bible verse. And in the tweet, he put a picture of the flag of Trinidad.

That's a dick move. What I've loved online the most about this is all the women who go to his Pilates studio being like, this is the best news ever. He was the worst person to take a Pilates class with. How can you be bad at a Pilates class? Why is he... They said he would tip people over when they were planking, that he would pour water on the floor,

that he would change the humidity level on his own, that he would, like, tell the instructor he hated the music. Like, there is a whole section of the internet right now that is just like, old Miss students and Oxford residents being like, I'm so happy I get my hot yoga back. What do you feel is the fairest criticism of this? Because I really do find interesting how appalled people are while clutching their rosary beads

that this guy would be this much about business when he always did this to be about business? I think the fairest criticism is, like, maybe not even with Lane Kiffin, maybe more of the, like, conversation happening around Lane Kiffin, where, like, I can't tell you how many times I've seen a Nick Sabin type or Kirk Herbstry be like, yeah, this guy's a victim.

This is just how college football set up. Not really. Like, yes, the schedule is bad, and that's something we'll have to look at later. but like John Summerall was able to leave Tulane very casually, very amicably, where I just don't, I don't have any problem with Lane Kiff and leaving saying, hey, I'm getting a better job, but you chose to do it in a way that like drew a lot of attention to yourself. It's not the first time you've done this.

It's not the first time you did this at Ole Miss. This is a year where you had a great roster, a team that's going to go to the playoff. And like, I think the fairest criticism of this is, hey, you don't get it both ways. You don't get to throw this giant Lane Kiff in spectacle. I'm leaving, here's what's happening, but also give me everything I want. I want to still coach this team. It doesn't work like that. Lucy, because of that, I totally get the Ole Miss AD telling Lane Kiffen,

we want nothing to do with you in the playoff run. What do you think about that? No, I think that's absolutely the right move. People like forget, LSU and Ole Miss don't like each other. They're a rivalry. These are two teams that do not get along. So starting when Lane Kiffin signed that contract, you are now recruiting the same guys. So you're going to give Lane Kiff an extra time to be with your play.

and your coaches to convince them to leave to go to LSU. And whatever happens, let's say he's like, you know what? He said there would be guardrails in place. That's like made up. I don't know what that would have been. But let's just say Lane Kiven's like, I'm leaving Ole Miss alone. I'm not taking anybody with me. Like, this is just going to be separate.

That entire Ole Miss playoff run will be about LSU. That is Ole Miss basically running an ad for LSU with Lane Kiffing coaching that playoff run. It's just like you don't get to have your cake and eat it too. I know we've heard that a million times over the last couple days, but it was just a very, like, you don't get everything you want all the time. But you're getting like a billion dollars, so you should be good. I'm not willing to say that LSU and Mississippi have a rivalry.

A hammer and a nail don't have a rivalry. Like Mississippi can think that's a rivalry? LSU doesn't think that's a rivalry. No, I think that's a fair statement, but I think maybe you're looking, you should look at it more from the perspective of Ole Miss because Ole Miss is the one making the decision of whether you get to coach in the playoff or not. Those fans hate LSU. They, this is like, obviously Egg Bowl is number one in the rivalry terms

for what Old Miss, you know, hates, but they do not like LSU. This is someone who you are now competing with on a regular basis. LSU plays a road game at Ole Miss next year. Like, this is not Tulane to Florida. This is not, you know, a group of five to power four. This is within the same conference. All right. So speaking of Tulane to Florida, I totally agree and get with Ole Miss not allowing

Lane Kiffin to coach in the playoffs. Why are we potentially good with John Sondon? Sumerall coaching Tulane to playoff? They're not in the same conference. John Summerall has handled this in a way that has been like, I think he came out yesterday and was like, I'm not telling any Tulane commits to decommit and come to Florida. Those are Tulane's guys. I'm not taking them.

It's a very casual transition of power. And John Summerall also, like the last month has not been about him. John Summerall has not been egging this on. There have been reports and things like that, but it has not been the world's biggest distraction. So I think it's just one, Tulane probably understands, yes, Florida is a better job than us. And yes, LSU is a better job than Ole Miss, but you're in the same conference. And you've chosen to handle it in a way that, like, you are not a victim. This was the Lane Kiffin show.

But that's who Lane Kiffin is. It's the risk you sign up for when you hire him. It is just, they're different circumstances because they're different levels. And LSU or Florida and Tulane are not competing against one another. I really do wish that Lane Kiffin had gotten off the private plane and slid down the railing on his ass, down the stairway, just slid onto the tarmac with his tongue out. So the one thing that's been interesting that's come out of this, that I'm curious if you all have been on this part of the internet, there are lots of rumors circulating that Lane Kiven does not have custody of his dog. Have we seen this? I follow Juice, now Juice Rebel, not Juice Kiffin. And a lot of people were trying to see if the dog was giving hints

because the dog on social media was kind of dropping all these hints that Lane was going to stay at Ole Miss. And we turned, it turns out, deadbeat dad, not the dog's actual dad it would appear. Because the dog. Yeah, Juice is staying in Ole Miss. He's got to live here now. You know Kirkhurf, she's got a dog? Lucy, what are you laughing about?

You just love that the dog has changed. It's just crazy. Well, he just changed his last name. No, it was a prop. I thought that this was his dog. I thought it was his dog. The entire time, I've been under the, under the assumption that that was Lane Kiven's dog because I had no reason to believe otherwise.

And then Lane Kiven leaves and it comes out that that is not his real dog. He does not have custody of that dog. So, like, why, like, why did you have the dog around you all the time? It's not your dog. He has to live here. You know why, Lucy? Because it was a very effective device to make Lane more likable as he publicly rehabbed his image and had a documentary

made, we all loved the dog. Yes, to live here. People love dogs. Yes, to live here. But it was a prop dog. Prog. It's crazy. Do you think that Lane Kiffin walks around with a bag of fake poop? Oh, hell yes. Tan, there was a moment. Hell yes. I was pretty plugged in on this story.

There was a moment where I was reading a dog's tweets being like, wait a second. Is he staying? It's a great way to gather news. I love the way we're gathering news in 2025. Checking in with the social media account of a dog that is not actually... So is it a real dog or is it like an AI dog? No, it's a live dog. It only exists to make Lane Kiffin

appear human. He would go to the games with him. When we went to Ole Miss, we saw Jews at the game. So like you assumed this was old, like Lane Kiffin's dog that he brought with him wherever he went. He was like a very popular. You could buy juice merch when you went into like the Old Miss student store. Like he was a very like key part

of that university in Lane Kippen. And then it came out that it was like, that's not his dog. Is it a rental? Is it a rental? Put it on the poll, yes. Put it on the poll. Are you surprised that Lane Kiffin was renting a pet to appear more human at Lebiton show? That dog was also not neutered.

Whose dog is this? Lucy, are you laughing? It's a rebel dog. It's on its own terms. It belongs to the university. Can you tell us, Lucy, whether you think it is funny what is happening right now to the University of Miami? I

think it's more funny in the, it's funnier that Duke's playing in the ACC championship game. That's the funniest case. That's the funniest case scenario ever. That is like, it is awesome. Seven and five, Manny Diaz.

It is so stupid. Well, so here's the thing. Duke may not realize it, but right now they are the most powerful team in college football because whatever happens with Duke in the ACC championship game and potentially the playoff, even though I don't think they'll make the playoff, they will change the rules because they'll never let this happen again.

Like, there's no way Duke will ever play in the ACC Championship again if they're 7 and 5, but it's objectively, like, hilarious. Shouldn't an ACC Commissioner just do the right thing, Lucy? Just say, hey, it makes the most sense. Virginia, Miami, they're playing. No, I disagree with that because I like college football because it's stupid. Like, if I want to watch things make more logical sense, if I want to watch really good football, I'll tune in on Sunday. I like college football because it's big, giant, and dummy. And Duke playing in the ACC is the dumbest thing ever, and I will be tuning in. Marty Smith's going to join us here in a moment, but not before.

we get to Lucy's internet. Oh, up. Time to get in it. It's Lucy's Internet Minute. So there is a big, like, controversy on TikTok right now with this one family who did a turkey trot

prank on their son's fiance. She had never met the family before and they told her that they were a turkey trot family and they ran the turkey trot 10K. And then the morning of the turkey trot, they filmed her being like, okay, let's get ready for the race. And they were Like, just kidding. We're not actually running the race. And she burst into tears and started crying.

And they posted the video being like, ha, we're a funny prank family. How hilarious is this? And people are really split on the matter. They're like, hey, that was kind of messed up. You guys humiliated her, put her on the internet, all that stuff. And other people are like, it's a prank. But I do think there's an important qualification here. She was training for this. She spent months training for this. Well, and so that's why I'm like, I think this is kind of messed up because her fiancee let her train for this for months. And knew it was a prank. I knew the whole time that she wasn't running the day.

It makes it better prank if there's humiliation involved. It makes it an even better prank. I don't like it. I should have known that's what you guys would have voted. I don't like this would have been. What's the point of a prank? And that's the person that she's agreeing to marry. Like, that's the family she's marrying into.

I personally should have cost you months of preparation. Oh, sorry, you're in better shape now. You're getting better. What do you know if they had like, if it was like day up and they were like, hey girl, we're doing this turkey trot prank. She'll be like, oh, my God, that's crazy. And then no, I think that's a fun prank. I think that's fine.

Months of preparation, months of work. She went and spent money on running shoes. Like, she got ready for this. And then they filmed it and they put it on the internet, which is like, oh, I don't know if that's nice. And they were like, we're just a prank family. So I think I'm on team, not that family's side. But I knew you guys would vote on this.

All right. Well, let's get Marty Smith. Thank you for being on with us, Lucy. We appreciate it. Hell of a year you had, again, a third straight, hell of a year that you've had. This time of year, it's a lot. Lights, noise, pumpkin spice, it's everywhere. But one feeling that we are all still chasing is coziness.

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I just said in his headset, haven't you been to all of them, too? It sounded like you were speaking aloud. My bad. Totally on me. That's 100% on me. Stugats. But that goes without saying.

Right. That it couldn't have. Well, now he said. He didn't. He didn't say it. He said it. Greg. Greg.

Greg. Greg. Greg. Greg. Greg. Greg. Yeah. Greg.

He apologized. Craig. Sincerely. This is the Dan Levitar show with the Stugats. Marty Smith is always having a hell of a year, although I do believe he's coming off of his worst professional assignment. Since he, since Marty came into our life, since then. He's probably had worse before then.

But since we were introduced to Marty, I don't think he had a, worst professional assignment than the one he just had before we get to that though i don't think he loved it i don't think he loved that i don't he was begging he was begging lane kiffin to put an end to it he dispensed with all pretensive journalism and just begged his subject please stop making me chase you around this brown lake in mississippi please i don't want to do it anymore uh before we get to marty though marty can you settle uh what it is that lucy is needing an arbitrator for here what is your opinion on pranking a family member and making them train for months for a turkey trot your family's not actually participating in it's pretty sinister yeah but i do appreciate the i mean

that takes a lot of planning and it takes a lot of personal conviction and discipline to not let that person know that you're completely screwing with them and uh as a family in the smiths that does a turkey trot every year and in fact did so on thursday before i got on a plane to fly to birmingham and then drive a conversion van to Starkville and onward. That's a hell of an elaborate effort. So good work, family. Well, I want to talk to you more about the misery of this, but is the Smith family a prank family? Not really. No, we don't do a whole lot of pranking. One of the greatest aspects of my wonderful marriage with Laney, 25 plus years now, is that we do bust each other's balls a lot. But in terms of like those pranks you see on the internet,

no we don't roll like that we don't have that kind of effort like we don't we don't put that much energy into it it takes a lot of energy to create content like that and stuff so marty you have a lot of energy you seem to have been just really defeated by everything sucked out of him i believe that i don't this is the carcass shell of marty smith energy and entertainment personified and mississippi and lane kiven have defeated him look at this picture of yourself i was shocked to see you on ESPN looking this way. It aged you terribly. Like, honestly, what have the last five days been like because I felt sorry for you? I just hope my hair looks like that when I'm 104 years old. It looks like me. Yeah, look, I'm not, I am tired, but I'm not going to sit here and talk about it

or complain about it because it's the job that I get paid to do. You know, you get commissioned to an event that ESPN and the rest of the world. I mean, Lane is, Lane is interesting because he's polarizing. Lane's interesting because he makes people feel one way or another. And that is interesting in a world that is so vanilla in so many ways, he's anything but. And so that's, you know, look, that's interesting. And so they decided to send me down there and I did the egg bowl and And then I kind of drove across Mississippi, and I will say, man, Saturday was interesting, Dan, because it had been made pretty apparent that a decision was expected from the athletic administration at Ole Miss on Saturday.

And that's unfortunately, I made a mistake, and I thought that would happen as a result of it being an expectation. I should have known better. And as it went on into Sunday, you just sit there and hope, all right, man, let's get a resolution here because I love this job. And again, you're not going to hear me complain about it. There's a whole lot of people who are working. No, that's not in any way true. I heard you complain on air as you begged Elaine Kiffin to please put an end to everyone's misery. Will there be a resolution tonight? Please God in heaven. Tell me yes.

I don't know if that's, I don't know if I would characterize that as a complaint. That's a statement. And it's a prayer. It's a prayer to God. It's a prayer to God. Look, bro, you've done this. Any of you guys who've ever worked in the field and have, I don't care, like, this is not the first time I've ever done this. I've sat outside of courthouses. I've sat outside of NASCAR headquarters of all God, you know, places. I have waited on NASCAR to tell me if some crew chief isn't going to be able to work because you had an illegal spoiler for 15 hours. Like, this is just the job.

And you're put in a position to do this job. And you do it to the absolute best of your ability with the most accuracy and energy that you can muster. But it is a fact at 8.46 p.m. I texted Lane and said, God Almighty, can we please do this tonight? So, Marty, you did eventually get him right before he left at the airport, but was there any moment where you thought I might not get him at all? Oh, yeah. Oh, absolutely. Yeah. Oh, yeah. There was a lot of moments where I thought I might not get him because it wasn't just wearing him out. with phone calls and text messages trying to get to him. It was also like what did or didn't come from those text messages. There's a lot of logistics involved in it. Where is he going to enter the airport? What is the law enforcement presence going to be? Like, you know, with, it's against the law

for me to just walk through the FBO onto the tarmac. So, you know, like, you know, like, you're like, there's a lot of obstacles here and hurdles that you have to manage and and we did a good job of it if I'm I don't put us there as you're driving around the fire trucks like how much offroading are you actually doing how much okay I'll paint a picture for you man so we take a left off of whatever highway the Oxford airport sits on and and as we take this left and it's myself my producer louise who's a Miami boy he went to the you, and our camera guy and our audio guy, all right. And I see you. And so there's all, there's like a barricade of fire vehicles and individuals and people, presumably fire men. And I was saying to Laney, I don't know why I reacted the way I did. I didn't really even

slow down. I just whipped this van to the right and through a field. And there was some equipment sitting in the field and I don't so I did slow down a little bit like it's not like a full throttle bonsai run I'm trying to make sure I don't hurt us and I'm weaving through all this equipment and then I get back to the road and up on top of the hill maybe 150 yards is where Lane Kiffin stood along the fence that goes to the runway of the Oxford airport where he was entering the airport you were chasing him like did he see you in the river no he was he was stopped he was at the top of the Hill stopped. I was not chasing his car, but he did see the entire thing happen. He was from his vantage point atop the hill. He saw the entire chase. So he's Will Ferrell with Baxter after he's

eaten the wheel of cheese. He's like, honestly, I'm impressed. I'm not even mortified by you. I'm just impressed. Yes, he was. I mean, his word to me was, holy bleep, you really are Scooby-Doo. Yeah. Like, that's what he said. And because he'd been making fun of this van, I was driving all week anyway. Any fear of getting arrested? Did you know you were doing something when you're going around the fire trucks that's right? You know, honestly, it never entered my mind in the moment. And I don't know why because like the Oxford police officers that were at the airport world class dudes. So cool. But they made it really clear. Like you can't go on to this tarmac. And so I was like, all right, how far do I push this thing here?

I would have loved to have seen you arrested. Getting arrested would show that you're dedicated. Yeah, I would have loved that. It would have been terrible for you, but great for us. Well, I appreciate that. I appreciate that perspective, gentlemen, but I really wasn't interested in going to the Oxford County Plink. Marty, there was a scenario that would have seen Ole Miss potentially play in the SEC title game.

I'm sure a lot of the hang of. a hang up was the Iron Bowl. Lane had made his decision well before you actually got to Oxford. So how much was this arguing about money, the kids, and the SEC title game? And what would have happened if Ole Miss found its way into the SEC title game? I have no idea, man. I don't know. Look, Keith Carter, the athletic director, made it pretty clear Sunday morning that Lane wasn't going to coach that team. And now, I know contextually you're talking about Saturday night in the Iron Bowl. If Ole Miss makes their way, way into the SEC Championship game against Georgia. I don't know. I heard yes. I heard no while I was

there. And once Alabama won, that was completely off of my radar. And I didn't follow up on it. So I don't know if he would have coached in that game if they got there or not. But it seemed like Keith was very dug in that when he made the decision to go to LSU, that was his time. I know that because we have Marty here, and I know we're Lane Kiffin obsessed, but I know that Greg Cody and Mike Ryan have some NASCAR questions for him. So certainly, now that you have Marty Smith's attention, I think we'll get more energy. He's been defeated by this story. I think if we talk some racing with him, I think we can get the Marty Smith we've been accustomed to here who's not defeated.

I don't mean to be down on energy, Danny. I love you guys. I know. I have, I've wept for you over the last few days. You keep doing this thing. I think Marty was loving the last. This is what he does, Dan. He eats, sleep, and breathes these moments.

Leave it to the TV professionals to tell you, all right? He would have liked for it to be half as long as it was, half as long. Wow, what's Roy's outfit all about? I am John Tesh. It's amazing. Are you round ball rock, bro? You can have a keyboard out there? That's awesome.

That's awesome. outfit sucks, costume sucks, it sucks, it sucks, it sucks. It's awesome. I think Danny Hamlin appears to be trying to find himself going to childhood tracks. One of the more devastating loss is in the history of motorsports. How do you envision next season going for him? It looks like that loss took a toll. It's hard to tell when someone's sad when they were in a helmet, but Denny Hamlin pulled that one off. I don't know how you could be in a moment like Danny was right there. Some of you guys watching may not know Denny's dad is ill. I'm not doing well. And he introduced Denny to the sport and is the person that really cultivated and shaped the passion that Denny has

for the sport. And so to dominate, like first of all, the way NASCAR's playoff is structured, it's so hard just to get an opportunity to be in the moment to win a championship. four drivers, one race, 300 miles, and, you know, for the rest of your life. And he dominated that race. He was gone. He was running away from it, boat racing the field. And then another really good driver pounds the fence and knocks the fence down. And so you have a caution.

And then another driver, strategy-wise, takes four tires, and Denny takes two. And there were a lot of drivers that stayed out on that caution, or on. took two tires on that caution so there was a lot of static it was uh i don't know man it was uh it was a crazy crazy crazy thing marty i'm trying to get uh my idea off the ground what do you think of it it's that in the championship four instead of a full field it should just be the four finalists on the track i mean i'm i might have misspoke there mike did i think denny took two kyle took four i don't remember if i might have misspoken i'll kept taking two denny took four I appreciate that you didn't even, you didn't even tolerate his question.

He was bold by the five cars. I do, I do want to, I do want to answer Greg's question. Thank you. Certainly, look, man, it makes sense to me because those are the only four cars. But look, again, man, this industry is such a unique industry. Everybody is a sole proprietor. It's not like a, and you have sponsors that are paying for this sole proprietorship. And it is a crazy business that the only business model more messed up the NASCAR is the NCAA, I think.

Were you aware that that is not Lane Kiffin's dog, that he does not have custody of that dog and that they've changed the name of that dog's last name from Kiffin to Rebel? That's funny. I did not know this. That is a shame that we're losing one of the greatest social media accounts there is as someone who loathes social media. How did you not know this, though? You are the source of information for all Lane Kiff and things. How has this escaped your attention? This important tidbit.

I am so damn proud to report that I had no idea about that. That means I'm doing this right. Marty, it's nice to see you. Thank you for always making the time for us. I was sad for you this weekend. Not me. But I was he either. I was happy for him.

Look, my man is on the beat. No one's going to get this story before Marty. He don't remember that for the rest of his life. Look, he's above this. I'm going to go ahead and say it. He's 13 and 25 against top 25 teams. He should be chasing around Sabin if he's got to chase him around. That's Marty Smith.

That's Marty Smith. He doesn't have to be chasing around Lane Kiffing. It's Marty Smith. Hottest coach in football. He's the hottest guy. He's the hottest college football. That's why they're covering each other. That's why.

Yeah. Now, he's outgrown this. He shouldn't chase Lane Kiffin around Mississippi. If not Lane, which coach? You just cited a retire one. I mean, that's a good question. Look, look. I don't, other, like Coach Sabin is just a different thing.

because to Dan's point, he's the absolute greatest to ever do it. But again, Lane is this enigmatic character that has done this and had this history of very polarizing controversial exits from multiple stops. And that makes him really interesting and makes people feel. And so it's my job. I've got really fast, okay, one word answers to all of this. Who's better? Miami or Oklahoma? Miami.

Miami or BYU? Miami or Utah? Miami. Miami or Notre Dame? Oh, Miami beat Notre Dame. There you go. That's this guy. Miami or James Madison.

There you go. I mean, I get some rest. Look, man, we have to be in a, the context of the playoff has to be. I do agree it's important that a team's playing well. but beating someone has to matter i don't even know if i'm on anymore you are you are you i'm laughing and mike dancing and tony i love mike's dance waving a flag put up put up one of your polls what do we name mike's dance it's the erin glenn it's good james or the robot it's erin glen running down the sidelines after blocking i want to see

i want to see a social media post that has mike's dance a graphic that asked to name name it and da-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-da-na-da-na-da-na-da-na-da-na-da-na-da-da-na-da-da-da-da-da. I love you guys. I love all of you, man. Thank you. Good to see you, buddy. Thank you for me making the time. Mike Ryan just danced like Aaron Glenn in front of a flag. He did. That was Aaron Glenn. It's down the sign-lines after blocking a field goal. in Tampa. I thought it was a combo of a robot and LeBron's like celebration. It's a bit of Rick Flare too and he's like...

Didn't Dylan Brooks do that to LeBron yesterday after scoring on him? Didn't he do the LeBron celebration in front of LeBron? You're having a great game, Brooks. Don't do that. It is disrespectful. It's indisputably. Agreed. What's happening to Miami? Huge. I can't believe you didn't ask about James Madison.

You coward. I should have asked, I should have kept going with that until I got something other than Miami from him as an answer. It sounded like he thinks Notre Dame's better, but he's like, well, they beat him, so I have to stay Miami here. Whatever. There's head to head. It used to be a proper country where two teams would play, and then the winner would be the

better team. He didn't ask about BYU either, coward. You look ridiculous, Tony. He looks ridiculous. Before we do the postgame show here, are you guys interested? Netflix documentary tonight, it's being made by 50 cent, and it's about Diddy. And it's coming out tonight. And I saw a video that I was shocked to see because it's Diddy talking to his lawyers on camera a few days before he's arrested. And I thought to myself as I'm

watching this, I'm like, how did he get this video? Is it legal to have this video? And is the answer to the second question answered by my first question, how did he get the video of Diddy talking to his lawyers telling them what to do like I'm interested in whatever it is that 50 cent is making here I've got to think the rest of you are interested as well right that's gonna do monster numbers on Netflix 50 cents specifically producing and he is incredibly petty Dan so you know he's not holding any punches he may go extra overboard to Diddy the actor from get him to the Greek