The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 2: Me And Ted Danson

Episode Date: March 13, 2024

Dan wants to know if anybody cares that Neve Campbell is returning to the "Scream" franchise, which leads to the show discussing the movies that scared them as kids. Also, Amin is very excited about the new season of Curb Your Enthusiasm. He tells a story about meeting Ted Danson and telling him he is friends with Charles Barkley. Then, Rajan Rondo joins the show for an interview in which he ranks the Top 5 Smack Talkers on the '08 Celtics. Plus, internet commenters are really mean and Jessica and Charlotte's first words were the same. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

You're listening to Giraffe Kings Network. This is the Don Lebatore Show with the Stugatz Podcast. Does it mean anything to anyone in the room here that Neve Campbell is announcing that she is returning to the Scream series. I don't know how you feel about movies and movie franchises, but Scream is one of the great modern-day horror franchise certainly and just overall franchise I think. Why'd you wave it off Amin? Enough with Scream. Enough. There's only so many times we could do the meta. Oh, this is like just all the other horror movies in there

It's for meta. Oh, it's just like all the other scream movies enough. What's your favorite scary movie? You know what my favorite scary movie is one that isn't just recycling the same goddamn movie over and over again I certainly can't watch scary movies don't know about the rest of you. Just can't do it? Just can't do it, terrifies me. I have nightmares. Last night I was convinced that the scary monster from Stranger Things was in my hotel bathroom.

And that's a show for children. What is the worst horror movie that you've happened upon that made you fear all horror movies? First of all, I knew this about myself before I ever saw a horror movie, but it was the ring in seventh grade, can even, can even, strikes fear in my heart to talk about it, damn. Rosemary's baby, terrified. It's the only horror movie that I've ever been scared at, like legitimately like, ah, I gotta throw this down. It was Nightmare on Elm Street for me, I'd say 36 year old.

After I watched, after I watched watched six cents for the first time I didn't leave my bedroom after my parents were asleep for like three years really. Yeah, I hated it I hated a dark hallway. I was confused. It was alive. Who was dead? I had no idea what's happening I famously still got called that Bruce Willis was dead like in like 20 minutes of the watch like 20 minutes of the watching the movie. Oh, she's so smart. Oh, she's so smart. So just running a movie for everybody. Oh, man.

I didn't know that. What are you doing? Middle of a theater, I was just like, he's dead. Oh, how annoying are you? She said in the middle of the theater. I did. You must have read it before. You must have read it before.

No, no. This is before you could read things before. Another actor better than G.M.A.D.y. People couldn't read. Recent development. I know what you did last summer for me. What? I liked that movie.

I saw it when I was in kindergarten. That's bad, guaranteeing. That's a scary movie. That's a five year old, yes. A five year old learning about guilt? Exactly, and then I went to Catholic school and then, oh my God, the combination of the two. I was just afraid if I ever did anything wrong,

someone was gonna come hunt me down and kill me with their hook hand or something But then you you read the Da Vinci code and everything was good after that Yeah, it is a gag. I don't know how many screen papacy trying to kill me. I don't know how many screams there have been I don't know any screen how many how many saws there have been a saws But I think once you get into the eight, nine, ten of anything except Billy's beloved Fast and the Furious, that anything is going to get bad and anyone is going to come, any of them are going to come with the complaint that it's not as good as it used to be except for perhaps curb your enthusiasm. Oh! Woo! There we go.

Now it means a week. Let's talk about curb. You better not spoil this shit too, I mean. So good. I'm only four episodes in, but it's just been banger after banger. Four might have been one of my favorite episodes of all time. So good. He's there.

Look, there's been some slippage in recent seasons, right? When they came back after that long hiatus, it's like, ah, I mean, it's funny, but it's not quite what it once was. But it kind of found its footing there in the second season of the return from hiatus. But then this season, this season is legitimately one of the best seasons.

He's going out, he's entering all the chambers. Everybody's on top of their game. I submit to you that Vince Vaughn is the greatest Kirby enthusiasm actor. Not playing himself. Not playing himself. Other than Marty Funkhauser. Super Dave. That's the only guy.

That is a big one. But I mean, he's not with us anymore, so. Right. Vince Vaughn's number one. Living. I wouldn't even put him top five. Yeah, I know. Name some.

Name some. I'll make a list. Okay. I thought you were gonna say, I would argue Vince Vaughn, top 10 actors of all time. Oh no, I won't go that far. Susie Green. Susie plays Susie.

No, she plays Susie Eismann. No, but she plays Susie hurt whatever Susie is like that in real life Jeff's like that like I'm not talking about those guys. I'm talking about the people cousin Andy No cousin Andy's nowhere near Vince Vaughn cuz Vince Vaughn is an improv genius He's just throwing things back at Larry Whatever you say he's got Leon black. Oh Yeah, JB smooth dude like the best character in the show the whole This is not a spoiler, but the whole thing with his balls hanging out of his shorts. Oh, that was great Was like legitimately so funny

I texted him me to tell him that I saw the best part about this season has been all the callbacks to prior seasons Yes, so long ball Larry's I just rattled off for though pretty Don't count long ball Larry Walker they're being themselves I have a show of how it ends But I don't want to spoil for anyone and and other people have kind of run with this theory also wait I have a theory to you go to jail. Yes He's doing the Seinfeld finale again

Yeah, he's doing the Seinfeld now But this time it's actually better because the Seinfeld finale they went to jail because they didn't do the Good Samaritan thing This time he's gonna go to jail because he did a Good Samaritan thing so it's the opposite Did he do a Good Samaritan thing? This isn't a spoiler by the way because everyone in the studio is freaking out right now This happens in like the first five minutes of the first episode of the season so the trial hey guys. Yeah settle no This is a theory too is it a good Samaritan thing if he didn't mean to do it I mean the whole thing of the bit though or he's getting all this credit for something he didn't mean yeah take credit

I mean, oh no it does two gots is incredibly strong Take credit for something you didn't mean to do I miss read Billy's mischief there I thought that he was coming in to destroy all things curb your enthusiasm No, I just you got in into the conversation a little bit late I didn't realize that you were following along and we're gonna have a critic's appraisal of whatever, wherever it is we finish with this story. Because it's one of the great television writers ever at the height of his powers trying to age

with his last show when he didn't have to do anything after Seinfeld in this political comedy climate. Like that's a pretty high bar to reach, to reach a mean, a mean is ready to criticize everything. Yeah. I mean, I don't think Larry David's doing things for a means approval. Yes, again.

Might I remind you that I once shared seats on a plane with the Ted Danson. Hey, you shared a seat with him? Yeah, well, I mean, he was my seat mate. He was next to you. He was next to me. And so then I shared a row with him. Yeah, well, I mean, he was my seatmate. He was next to you. He was next to me. And so then I shared a row with him.

And how did that go? It went great. It went great because at first I was like, you know what? I'm not going to acknowledge him, right? All these people are coming on the plane. Oh, I love you so much. I'm not going to acknowledge him. And then I said, wait a second.

I'm going to wait for one of these people to come on. I mean, I love you on ESPN. That didn't happen. And that was the first time. Every flight I'm on, someone ever saw, I love your work. This is the first time it didn't happen. I wanted to down. Every flight you've been on, someone comes up and says,

Amin, I love your work and you're hoping they did it in front of Ted Dance. And they didn't. I wanted to like, excite my down. The one time. So anyways, so then we take off. He said something about what I was eating. I was like, oh, I got it from this place.

It's really great, whatever. We had some small talk. We take off then, like maybe a third left in the flight. I said hey by the way, I love you and Kirby enthusiasm And he was so happy like everyone always says cheers or the good place Whatever it's like you're the first person and I was like, oh, you know, I'm cool like that Then I told him Charles Barkley is not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure.

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Rome's ancient ruins? Wherever you're going, whatever you're into, book your next travel experience at GetYourGuide.com. Don Lebatard! All these high paid analysts, I don't want to mention names, TNT, ESBM, you know, oh yeah, they are dead. They cannot, they are not going to make it, you know, even if they win in, if they lose it in Miami. I need to calm you down. I need to calm you down. That's right, they lose in Miami, they don't got a chance in Boston. Oh, they are going to have their ass, you know, what in Boston, you know.

Stugats. They were wrong. They were, are they going to lose their job? No. Are they going to get a cutting-pipe? No. What are they going to lose a job? No, are they going to get a cutting-pipe knock? What are they going to do? Keep predicting. What is the obvious? They are going to say, oh, the nuggets are going to win. Oh, Denver, the altitude.

And you know what? The heat are going to win at all. This is the Don Lebatar Show with the Stugads. MUSIC He's a two-time NBA champion. He's a four-time All-Star and I always thought he was interesting. I didn't sort of understand, I mean, how it is that he did some of the things that he did. I knew he had to be smart. I knew he had to be tough, but I was sort of confused by how can he control a game at that size. He was also talented. Yes. And had, uh, and had, had everything on a team that you would want to win a

championship. So Ray John Rondo is with us and he's the latest addition to our new partners at all the smoke productions. We will tell you to find them, uh, on YouTube, all the smoke. So, uh, Ray John, thank you for joining us. And I just wanted to start with those Celtics teams because we watched them, we admired them in Miami, we respected them, we learned to hate them.

And it seems like you guys, Boston and Miami, anytime Paul Pierce's talk to Garnett, you Donis, that none of that anger from those competitive battles you guys have had, it seems like none of it's gone away that you like still wear the scars because you guys were fighting for the top of the sport now i would say that you know we're very competitive gentleman and uh... as part of the nature of the game

uh... me myself personally i don't want to compete with the best but uh... that's in the past i've actually played with you know the brahman d way since then so but there's no hard feelings, and I've actually won one with LeBron, so that's in the past. What can you tell us about the time playing with Dwayne Wade? Because it seemed like in Chicago it seemed like those were three veteran players playing at very different personalities

playing with a bunch of players who weren't veterans, and you were brought into an interesting set of circumstances. To me it was a great experience. The young fellas that was there, Denzel, Denzel Valentine, Bobby Portas, all the young guys I've developed a relationship with still to this day that worked extremely hard. You know, they were hardworking young guys and were dying to be led to understand what it was to be a professional anti-champion. So along with the other two big guys Wade and Jimmy, we had a great run. You know, I believe we would have beat Boston that year as A seed. Unfortunately, I broke my thumb in that series game two and we didn't win another game. You mentioned Jimmy Butler. Did you think Jimmy

would turn into the Jimmy that we're seeing right now with the heat? Absolutely. I mean, I think he was that guy, even when the Bulls, like I said, we didn't get an opportunity to get far into playoffs, but Jimmy loved the big games. He loved the big moments. Um, and he's a, um, a professional at his craft. Uh, Jimmy was a hard worker, you know, back in the Bulls days, he has a lot of discipline. You know, he kind of reminded me of Kevin Garnett, how he approached the game. And so what he's doing now, I'm not surprised.

Like I said, this is who he is. And he thrives in the big moments and he wants all the pressure on himself. I don't feel like you're allowed to say you're not surprised. I don't feel like, I understand. And I mean, no disrespect by this, but if I come up to you in Chicago in the locker room where you're in Dwayne Wade are there

and I'm like, you know what's gonna happen here? Jimmy Butler's going to you in Chicago in the locker room where you're in Dwayne Wade are there and I'm like you know what's gonna happen here Jimmy Butler is going to lead a team to the finals and the numbers he's gonna put up are all gonna be Michael Jordan's numbers. Ray John Rondo can know a lot of things without knowing that that was going to happen because none of us thought that could happen. You're telling us no I knew that could happen that he could drag a team by himself to the finals like that. Looking like Michael Jordan. He has a 24.

You know, you gotta think about it. You know, Jimmy has also one of the greatest coaches that I've coached all the time as well, you know, um, in Spole. So the preparation that Spoles put in, I played against Spole many years. I can't say that Jimmy obviously wasn't gonna have those particular numbers, no, but the way the game has changed, you know, you see the numbers inflated. So the game has changed, the referees, the game is called differently.

You know, the three balls being shot a lot more and the way he's been able to manipulate the game and draw fouls gets a free throw line at all time high. But to me, Jimmy still gets to a spot. These are the same spots that he gets to when I saw him working in Chicago with Chris Johnson. So no, I can't say he was gonna have Michael Jordan like his numbers, but at the same spots he gets to when I saw him working in Chicago with Chris Johnson. So no, I can't say he was going to have Michael Jordan like his numbers, but at the same time his willpower and, you know, he's the dog. I mean, he's one of the most

dominant guys when it comes to, you know, man-to-man matchups, you know, he wants all the smoke. His mindset along with Spoe and then the guys around him, you know, everybody bought in, understand that he was the leader of the team and those guys make shots. Ray John, Charlotte Wilder, resident Celtics fan, which is good because there's not enough representation of Boston fans in national sports media. Are you in touch with guys on the team now

and like how are they feeling? Cause obviously they're the best team in the league. I have terrifying feelings of like it's going too well. What do you know about? It's a little weird the way that people think that the only thing that can derail the Celtics are that they're not as mentally tough as Jimmy Butler. It feels like that's the only criticism you can hear

of what can undo the Celtics. Ooh. I don't know. I keep in touch with Sam Tissell and Phil Presley. They're on the staff and they're a good friend of mine. Phil was my rook and I was damn near Sam's rook. So full circle moment. I do keep in touch from time to time, not particularly individual players, but I played at least with like seven guys on the team.

Drew Hiday is one of my favorite teamies of all time. And I thought that was a great addition. And we're seeing it now with the way they're running this year. But they, obviously they have a shot. They have a really good opportunity to get it done this year. And I don't think Joe gets enough credit. No, Joe's kicking ass, as far as his X and O's and the way he's exhumed down the stretch. A lot of people meant not like his thinking

or the way he's substituting pattern in some games. But at the end meant not like his thinking or the way he's substituting patterns some games, but in the day, that's the team to beat, I believe. Right, Ray, John, thank you for the team to beat was a little bit better than they have a chance, okay? You need, I'm gonna coach you up here. I'm gonna coach you up here in the media game and the take business, in the take business, okay? Go ahead, Dan.

Just, Stugats, I need your help here. You're the take master. Yep. To say that Celtics have a shot, Ray, John, not good enough. Not not like not to say they have a shot is unacceptable. And we're gonna need you to do better than that. You have to say Ray, John, they have to win it this year or break up the team. Oh, no. They have to win it this year or break up the team. Something like that. Oh, no. Yes, yes.

You got to, you know, it's something that we can. Fire someone. Fire somebody. Trade somebody. Like, you've learned nothing from Kendrick Perkins. You've learned nothing from how Kendrick Perkins does it. That's not me. That's not me.

But I won't say anybody has to get fired. If anything, I'll say they have to hire me, I mean, you know, along with Joe. There you go, there you go. Coach, hire me, coach Rodney. No, no, no, no, no, I said hire me alongside Joe. I didn't say that. Oh, no, no, no, no.

What are the great untold, there's gotta be something about your championship teams that most people do not know because it is very hard, Ray Jean, maybe people don't understand, right? the Warriors broke up after four years of winning because winning together can be hard and You guys got together very quickly. You did the hardest thing together. You developed lifelong bonds You have a championship. What are the things that people don't know about those champ that champion Celtics team? Um, I think one thing that helped us glue really quickly is we went to Rome right away. I went to Rome Italy. We all shaved our heads. Paul called me sleeping one day in the

room and he kind of came in the room and he nicked my head and I had a ball patch and I want to whoop his, you know, but um, I end up sitting, huh? When in Rome. When in Rome. He just saw an opportunity to make a Went in Rome. I end up si- Huh? Went in Rome. Went in Rome. Went in Rome. He just saw an opportunity to make a went in Rome joke. You left me a window. Yeah, he did. That's right.

He's... Much like the Celtics, Rome wasn't built in a day. Right. So now we went to Rome, Italy. You know, no one spoke Italian. So we kind of was stuck with, you know, kind of being in our rooms a lot, going a lot of dinners and getting to know one another again, because the age difference was a lot, you

know, we had Sam Casales, we had Scott Pollard, you know, Eddie House, Kevin, all the older guys, and then we had a bunch of young guys, you know, kind of implemented in Big Baby, myself, Perk, T.A. So again, it's, you know, being, me being older now, understanding like, you know, you don't really clash or click a lot with a lot of young guys and vice versa. So getting that chemistry developed pretty early, you know, the big three coming together, understanding about sacrifice and us watching them develop that type of chemistry early on and watching those guys grow. That was a big difference. And I believe that if we don't go to Rome that particular year, preseason, we don't win it. We gel pretty quickly. was a big difference and I believe that if we don't go to Rome that particular year preseason we don't win it

We gel pretty quickly Our mindset doc has a great and boot to word that we we love we loved in a locker room And we visualized and we talked about it every day The rookie said I do a presentation on them boot to and I think we bought in and I think that's the key You know we bought them right away. We handled adversity early Not much adversity. Obviously we was kicking ass early, but, uh, when we did have those times where, you know, arguments to lock rooms or, or fights in practice, uh, they didn't get out into the media.

Um, and like I said, we went about it as professionals and we, we locked in and figured out how to get it done that year. How many, how many arguments fights, how normal is that in a high in a highly competitive environment where like how how normal is every day has some arguments and fights in it? Not normal especially nowadays I mean I don't feel like my last couple years in the league that practices were as competitive I believe in the 08 the 910, 10 area. We had a thing called G-Unit runs out of practice. This was back in the day when G-Unit was popping. We would play one-on-one and there was no fouls being called.

I mean, guys would get up. I mean, it was crazy. Guys would get hit in the mouth. And if you weren't bleeding, it wasn't considered a foul. And that's how we competed. The first unit versus second unit, we wanted to destroy them every day. And so when we got in the game, the game was a lot easier.

And that's, you know, as cliche as it sounds, like that's how we approached it. You know, Doc made us compete. He would have to sit Kevin Garnett on the sidelines because it got so competitive. But Kevin, he never wanted to come out even in practice. And then when we did come out, he would run the sidelines up and down the court as if he was still in the game.

So, that's just kind of stilled in the young guys. It made us more competitive as Orin off the court. And it helped our bond as well. Can you please though explain to the audience, for those who don't understand what championship medal looks like, and Kevin Garnett was a kind of crazy competitive at the height of you guys competing maximum escalation champion no fowls are called here unless you're bleeding what's the worst of that look like what's the friends like who gets angriest with whom because now you're talking about you know you're talking about very physical people being very competitive. Well, the most, the two giants that used to go at it all the time was Leon Poe and Big Baby.

You know, and it's two young guys obviously competing for a spot. So it was a little bit more to it than, you know, it was say Leon Poe versus Kevin Garnett. You know, he's already established, you know, he's a main man, first, first, first Ballaholla famer. But Leon po versus Kevin Barnett, you know, he's already established, you know, he's a main man first, first, first Ballaholic hammer, but the Leon po baby matchups with along with perk. Those were fun to watch with sideline because guards, we would, you know, we would have our own games down on one end. And then the big guys would be on the opposite end playing one on one. So that was fun to watch. And like I said, when we're done playing, you can hear all the shit talking in the gym on the other side and it got very physical, but nevertheless, like I said, each game and each practice, we finished as a team, you know,

maybe times where guys were pissed off next couple of days, but at the end of the day, we would still come back the next day and compete just as hard and Doc always reeled us back in to have the main goal, the focus is to win the championship. Dan, I don't think you understand how many shit talkers were on that roster. Oh my goodness. The whole how many shit talkers were on that roster. Oh my goodness.

The whole roster were shit talkers. Because everyone always thinks about Paul and KG, but Eddie House is a world-class shit talker. James Posey. James Posey is a world-class shit talker. So, Ray John, rank them for us. Who was the one seed? Who was the two and who was the three?

Wait a minute. I think... Hold on, Ray John, can we do this dramatically with you? Can we do it from the bottom up? Who is the two and who is the three? Wait a minute. I think. Hold on, Ray-Jun, can we do this dramatically with you? Can we do it from the bottom up? Can we go five, four? Can you organize your thoughts to go five, four, three, two, one dramatically? Five top, top five shit talkers on the champion Celtic.

Shit even scowls a shit talker. Ha ha ha ha. Let's go with. Number five. Number five. Number five would be James Posey. Posey, Posey talks so much shit because Posey was on one of the, one of the championship on that team. So he would act like, you know,

like you don't know, nothing was going on. He had a ring and you did it. Right. He came in with a ring. Yeah. He came in with a ring already. So we gave him two of these like a couple of deals. So. Number four. Four. Because of the inexperience, I would say myself.

Number four, I'll go for it. You were young then, you got better at it. But number four, you are about the fourth best on that team. In the 08, I was probably about the fourth best. I was still very humble and I was trying to find my way, so I would say fourth for me. All right, you are an amateur shit talker. Number three.

Yes, yes. Three, Eddie House. Up. Eddie House. That's a good team of shit talkers. Eddie House is finishing a lot of bronze medalists in these categories on his fourth Number two Yeah, now we all know who Paul Paul was the hell of a shit talker like I said he would he would talk shit

Why he's at the Frito line. I mean come on. I've seen I've heard him say some wow shit to Richard Jefferson You know mid mid mid dribbling through the free throw He's talked the shit to every power forward that I've seen play against Joe Johnson. Josh Smith. I mean he's He's he's up there and again. He's my teammate So I had to defend him and you know go ahead and ride with him obviously But he he said some shit that he was like you want you want to fight him and, you know, go ahead and ride with him, obviously. But he, he said some shit that he was like, he want, you want to fight him right away immediately. So, and then obviously last, but not least, number one coming in most Kevin

can garden that. Dan, some names left off the list. Sam Castel, Tony Allen. I'm telling you you this was like the 1927 Yankees of shit talking. Thank you. We appreciate it Ray John. Thank you for being on the show. Good talking to you. Appreciate you gentlemen. Have a good one. All right. All the smoke productions you need to find what they're doing on YouTube. Thank you, sir. All right. Have a good one.

Don Lebatard. Jess, you can't talk about double digit national titles when every single call of you winning the national title sounds like this. Oh, there's Chubby Checker running down his eye line. The audio? That's not true. Yeah. And there's a World War II veteran pitching into another white guy and he avoids another white guy.

Oh my god, Notre Dame, the fighting virus have done it again for the Spook-Ots chubby checker He spells it differently. Maybe you didn't hear me correctly. His name is Chubby Chuckas. It's an S at the end. I feel like that should be the largest of five. Chubby Chuckas. It sounds like a college football name.

This is the Dan Levitar Show with the Stugats. Lebatar show with the Stugats. Stugats just discovered that the first comment on anything on the internet is from an asshole. Everyone's an asshole it seems like. But the first comment from everyone, there is real high comedy on the internet from just the first comment from everybody is from an asshole because Stu gots is just now noticing that Ryan leaf put something up of his new child and the first comment was something along the lines of does your daughter know you were a bust.

And Ryan responded and it was a good job by him saying not yet she's only 14 weeks she'll find out which is funny but why are people assholes I'm okay with being an asshole but I'm not good when I see others do it I'm just not that bit that begs a question at what point if you were a bust do you tell your kids does create the funny visual of telling a 14 week old sitting the infant down. When they figure out. They're laying probably, not sitting.

They went, when they figure out that you were, you reach very high heights of athletics and you have to be like, yeah, but didn't like fully pan. I think it's gotta be like mama, dadada, bust. Like that's the third word. No, second word, Mama and then bust. No, dad, da. It's bust.

Yeah. I bet that Ryan Leif was more successful than that commenter. I was just going to say. I love bust, though. No, because Ryan Leif went to prison. Damn. Oh. Automatically.

He was a seven-time convicted felon. I mean. Yeah. The commenter amazingly comes out on top here. You say that, but wouldn't Brian Leif be framing that to the child your father was very good at football all of his life? Top 1%.

We have a fun fact about first words. Jess and I have the same first word and it's really strange. One, two, three, back go. Yeah, like an excavator. Those are first words. Yeah, that was both of our first words. It's an odd first word.

Wow. Back ho? I thought they said tobacco without the tub. That was my first word. I thought it was like they were telling someone to get back. Back ho! Back! Well actually, you know, my parents never provided context, so maybe, yeah.

But why would that be your first one? According to my mom, we were driving by a construction site, and she was like, look, there's a backhoe, and it happened to be the first time I decided to open my mouth. And I had a toy backhoe. My daughter could say excavator before I could. Because of blippy. You still struggle with that. There's an excavator episode, my daughter was like what's it?

You just said it wrong. That's what I mean I tell you I can't say it excavator whatever. I'm just like I said back on my daughter Showed me that I couldn't say that you should watch more blippy it sounds like yeah But Charlotte and I found out about our first words in one of the strangest ways possible because we are a few years apart in age in just as way as possible because we are a few years apart in age, didn't grow up in the same region of the country, never knew each other until our first job together at SB Nation and we were typing in Slack, having a Slack conversation across the office

and someone brought up first words. And at the same time, we both typed into Slack, my first word was backhoe. And it was so spooky. We both stood up. We were on the opposite side of the office. We didn't know each other and just looked at each other. I'm picturing two heads popping up from Cuba before. It was.

Cuba before. Exactly. Except it was an open office plan because it's start-ups, am I right? But we made eye contact and we were like, wow. I forgot this is a startup with an open office floor plan. Yeah, yeah.

I mean, they're the worst. There's nowhere to take a phone call. There's nowhere to zoom. Cubicles, bring them back, Jack. That is one of the most amazing origin stories I've ever seen of did we just become best friends? What the odds that back home were you spelling it the same was it indeed one word? We both spelled it correctly I will have one word which for me was huge But how the hell is that anyone's first words on anything right that doesn't make any sense

none That's yeah, that's why it's an interesting story. Yes. That's why she told it. I mean You're saying that this dunk last night on Wemby two nights ago two nights ago. Excuse me fine a Lot of people are trying to shame Wemby for being dunked on and You're saying it shouldn't count as a shame filled. Oh, personal record book, huh? I just got spoke.com. By the way, I got the email. Good.

You buy one? No, they want me to write. Oh, all right. Yeah, C.L.B. You also heard from his people instead of from him? Absolutely got an email detailing what they wanted me to write. Perfect. Thanks for the invites, Stu. I don't feel like this is an honor. We wanted me to write. Perfect. Thanks for the invites, Stu.

I don't feel like this is an honor. We're getting to you. What's your topic, Amin? I think it's Kevin Durant. I think I have to. That's my surest. Yeah, she got one of those. I don't want to give away.

Or can I give it away? No. Okay, I don't want to give away. Stu says no, because he doesn't know. No rights here. You just work for free, you'll hear from his people, just shut the f*** up.

When they should be filled with shame, but this is not a dunk, ladies and gentlemen, not a dunk. We have to be role here for people. Let's watch it right here. So here's the deal, right? In order for it to be a dunk, you have to touch the rim. You have to touch the rim. And I know what you're saying.

Oh, me, what about this dunk? And what about that? No, no, no, no, I'll tell you how we know. Way back in the day in basketball, when they outlawed the dunk, you were not allowed to dunk. What did Wilk Chamberlain and Cream Abduljabab and all these guys, how did they, Lew Alcindor should say, how did they get around it?

They got around it by making shots like that. They would get up high and throw it through the rim, but then they would touch the rim because technically that's not a dunk. Using that definition, this is not a dunk. It's a hell of a layup. It's an aggressive floater. That's what I like to call a highly aggressive floater.

That's not a poster if it's an aggressive floater. Oh, it's a poster. It's absolutely a poster. I'm totally with a mean on this. Your hands have to touch the rim when you dunk. Guys, have you been, can you be posterized, put it on the pole, Juju, by an aggressive floater? When did the amadeed?

I always hear posterized is posterized. Did you push back when Dwight Howard won the dunk contest a couple times where he like didn't even, with the Superman cape, I'm pretty sure he didn't touch the rim. He didn't touch the rim, not a dunk. Did you speak up then? I did speak up.

I have a long standing tradition of speaking up every time someone does a blade griffin over a't touch the rim, not a dunk. Did you speak up then? I did speak up. I have a longstanding tradition of speaking up every time someone does a blade griffin over Timothy Mosgov, not a dunk. Huh. Keon Clark over Sean Bradley, not a dunk. Trace Jackson Davis over Wemby, not a dunk. Backhoes.