The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 2: Mina Kimes and Greg’s Eyebrows

Episode Date: January 9, 2025

We kick off Hour 2 by discussing why we have not heard from De'Vondre Campbell since he quit in the middle of an NFL game. Then, we have a new episode of Off Rohd-ing from Lucy's trip to Austin for the College Football Playoff Game between the Texas Longhorns and Clemson Tigers. Hook ‘em. Plus, Amin has thoughts on why the public feud between JJ Reddick and Charles Barkley may have actually just been a misunderstanding. Then, Mina Kimes joins the show in the midst of her evacuation from the fires that continue to rage on in Los Angeles and details her experience. We do our best to cheer her up with some discussion about the National Football League as she runs through topics such as CJ Stroud's struggles, Derrick Henry and Lamar Jackson, Sam Darnold bouncing back, and who is between between the Lions and Bills.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

You're listening to Giraffe King's Network. This is the Don LeBattor Show with the Stoogats Podcast. Has anyone spoken to Devondre Campbell publicly, the quitting 49er, who we shame, shame, shamed, even though a lot of us would kind of love to quit our job in public, just tell our boss to go bleep himself, I'm leaving work right now. I have not seen him interviewed,

I have wanted to hear from him, I have wondered what the toll would be of doing what he does for a living, getting to money that is substantive, and then one day on television quitting, and then the next day on television, the easiest thing in the world appears, which is every critic can come out and say,

you're a quitter. Every quitic can come out and say, you are a quitter, you're a coward, it's the easiest thing. I'd be curious what that person is thinking. Like what? I haven't thought about that name since like the first 15 minutes of reaction in the morning

when we found out about the story and we all moved on. I think the silence on that front either indicates a lack of interest from people wanting to find out or probably an admission where, you know, I don't need to get my seat. Let me just hope this goes away. But if I, but if I told you right now, if I said coming up next, this person is talking and going to explain to you what happened that day, you wouldn't stick around to listen

to why it is that all of that happened or what it is that it felt like to go through that the next day watching a Bunch of critics tell you that you're the quitter No, no, like do I have to sit through a commercial? I'm not that interested like this guy's made a lot of money in his career Even though he played well like it's pretty clear what happened there was was playing a lot, was upset that another guy was playing over him, seems to be at the end of his career, and that's just how he goes out. Antonio Brown, fascinating, because for a lot of different things, different person, well known, the way that he did it, but also the notion that he saw plenty of football,

good football left in front of him. I just, people learned his name through this story, so I don't think people care. That's a tough part. The guy I remember did this before Antonio Brown was Vonte Davis, you guys remember? He retired at halftime. It was of repute. Yes, and but also.

Wasn't it halftime of the last game of the season where he was just out? It was the second game of the season. Yeah, it was like earlier in the season. It was the second game of the season, Yeah, it was like earlier in the season. It was the second game of the season, and that's what made it so shocking. But also, for him, it wasn't, I'm upset about coaching decisions, whatever.

It was like, you know what? I don't need this. And he walked away from football. My question for Campbell is, do you actually have plans to play football against somewhere else? Because you have to know that reaction in that sport is the death knell.

I found it fascinating for a number of different reasons and still find it fascinating as we talk now because I don't know how many of the people listening to this are unhappy at work. I do know that a lot of people come up to us over 20 years and say thank you for making work some semblance of easier because I'm with you for three or four hours and I don't love what I do for a living

and there are any number of times I've wanted to quit and you make the day half as long. You're welcome. If the audience is out there, one opinion I didn't hear from anybody after that happened is, man, a lot of people would kind of like to do that. Would kind of like to be just one day at work very publicly, like, you know what, I am done with all of this.

However it is you imagine quitting a job that you're unhappy with, what is the best and most spontaneous, relieving kind of way to do that, that you imagine in the scenarios that you've always wanted to tell your boss to bleep off, you've always wanted to do X, Y, and Z. How many people listening to this are unhappy enough at work that they connected with him just being like, you know what, I am done, I do not work here anymore.

The Wall Street Journal published a story in December saying that the number of Americans wanting to switch jobs has hit a 10 year high. I for one have never wanted to tell my boss to bleep off. It really depends on how much you talk about Jimmy Butler and that's my threshold. Same. Where is Lucy Rodin's off-roading?

I just saw an invoice from Ricky Williams. I just saw the invoice. He gave a deduction for what is usually his appearance fee because we got in trouble with so many people because you can't just go on the field and video things because Ricky said, hey, let's go on the field. We don't have any video we can show anybody from what it is that you were doing at Texas.

Wait, say that again. Someone was talking to me in a red jacket and I don't wanna call their name out. Well, the last sentence is all you needed to hear, which is not even. Sounds like. We do have off-roading. Yes, we do, Dan.

Can we play it? Let's do that. Hit it. How have Clemson fans been? Have you interacted with them at all? I had one hold the door for me as I was at the Porter Party. So I got a little respect for him, but I'm about to show my ass today. I ain't going to lie.

["Porter Party Theme Song"] Hi, everybody. It's me, Lucy. Yee-haw hook'em. We're here at the University of Texas for the first round of the College of Ball Playoff. A playoff game at a home school. It's so cool. I don't know how this is going to go, but I'm grateful for the opportunity.

What are the vibes? What's the energy of today? There's a lot of energy, a lot of orange going around. Texas will win and not only will they win, they're going to cover the spread, against the spread, bet the house on it, put the town on alert. Go Tigers, horns down always. I'm about to go f***ing crazy! It's playoff time, baby!

Let's go! Beat Clemson! Why do you think everyone hates Texas so much? You got better spirit, a better fan base. They hate us because they ain't us. How much joy does it give you knowing that you guys are here competing for a national championship potentially and South Carolina is not even though they beat Yale?

We're just happy to be here. We're in the playoff. We have a shot at a national championship. They don't. So that's their loss. Do you like Dabo Sweeney? Dabo who? Dabo Sweeney. Who is that? Exactly. Oh he's weird. He's like toast. Transfer portal Dabo is the scariest thing in college football.

Just getting a guy from Southeast Missouri State and now Purdue I feel like it's slowly starting a domino effect where he's gonna get big names from bigger schools. He's gonna be a Hall of Fame coach and I believe in Dabo's ways. He's a little bitch. If you guys had to make a choice right now and you were the coach, would you pick Quinn or Arch? I'd pick Quinn. Start Quinn when we go to the red zone, put Arch in. No, I'd stay with Quinn.

Raise your left hand for Quinn or your right hand for Arch. Okay, I have to check. We just need somebody to play some ball, that's it. That's all I want. Mike Ryan on the LeBatard Show says that the upside down you is one of the most offensive things a fan base could do. No.

How do you feel when someone does the horn snap? You know, they spend more time thinking about us. We live rent free in their head. Breaking the you is better. Doing that is a lot better. I personally, every time someone does that, I'm like, yeah! Do it right now. Horn snap.

Oh! Yeah! Where did you get your shoes? Lucy Rodin, the greatest artist, podcaster, everything in the world. I painted them. I painted the shoes. I did them and they look so good. Ah, that's so exciting!

What's the fit check today? This title belt, it's something I've carried around for a few years now. I got this custom cable. Shortly after winning our national championship in 2016. Did you guys ever get taken Matthew McConaughey or no? Yes. Why? He bullied my aunt's brother in high school.

I would never get tired of seeing Matthew m-a-conna-head, god damn it. Matthew m-a-conna-head, you the m-a-c-man, baby! What's the worst fan base you all have dealt with? Your least favorite? Aggies. Might go A&M. Well, Aggies, of course.

I mean, you know. It's been a very popular answer today. Them Georgia fans be acting out of hand sometimes, man. They don't know how to win with class. We had some cat that just didn't know how to hold his m*****. Lick it, almost got the m***** the right hook. Miami. What makes Miami fans so bad?

They talk a lot on Twitter, and then they don't show up to any of the games. Last question, anything you want to say to Dan and the Levitard Show crew? I love you guys. You saved my life. I've been listening to the Levitard Show since 790 back then, and yeah, I've grown up with him. I love him. So like, have you watched an episode in the last two years? I've watched a few, yeah, here and there. I don't believe you.

You had to guess what my name is, what do you think my name is? Emily. Whoa! You had such a great time, and the game ended up being like way more fun than we thought it would. There were a lot of points.

A little too many points, kind of alarming how many points, but nonetheless, great time, and Texas will, well I'm not gonna go to that game in Atlanta, but have fun. Hook em. A great season, Emily. That's disrespectful.

Worst name one can pull. By the way, that was $7 for not listening earlier to the Venmo fine bucket. What is your fine for chatting when you were supposed to be working? What's your fine for snitching? That is pestering. I didn't say anyone's name.

He just yap yap yap yap yap, yap, yap. Ever since he left the executive producer role, he sits in the back row and creates the general chaos with Billy back there. I miss it. I do miss it. Pretty chill back here. Can't lie.

I wanted to talk to Amin about what's going on with JJ Reddick and Charles Barkley because I mean If basketball has been about storylines and basketball is great at making Players and personalities stars right because it's so much better than the other sports It's almost kind of weird to see what's happening with basketball where basketball's biggest stars are bigger to see what's happening with basketball. Where basketball's biggest stars are bigger than football's biggest stars, even though football is the biggest sport.

And at the height of all that, the Lakers are fascinating. They've got the oldest player in the league who defies science and gravity and picked his own coach or podcaster who nobody likes. No. JJ Reddick since, no look, I like, let me, to be clear, I like someone who is publicly confident,

says so and doesn't care what you think about it, he's been this since Duke. I like it, that doesn't tend to be likable, especially when it comes from uh... from duke a lot of people do appreciate that later in his career j j reddick was very good at the content game and explaining basketball really newest stuff but then became a coach for the lakers

and now charles barkley is going after him in a way that uh... nobody wins fights with charles barkley and charles barkley knows it which is why he keeps saying over and over, if you come for the king, you better not miss. I have a platform, it's bigger than yours, even as Laker coach, I will bury you. Yeah, no, look, I think it's all born out of a misunderstanding, to be honest with you.

So if you don't know, JJ Reddick made some comments about, that was asked about, hey, people were saying that the ratings are down and it's because they shoot too many threes. And JJ Reddick kind of pushed back on the notion that the league is, the style of play, is there anything wrong with it? He says the players are more skilled

than they've ever been, or at least since when he came in the league. Certainly from three. Yeah, well, he's skilled overall. He said that the players are more skilled and more talented today than they were 20 years ago when he first came into the league. And he said he thinks a reason why this discourse

is happening is because there are a lot of people who talk bad about the game, right? Now, he said that without naming any names, Charles Barkley took that as, oh, he's talking about inside the NBA specifically, and that's why Chuck went off on him and leveled him with what can only be described as Operation Shock and All.

JJ Reddick was asked, hey, what did you think? And he gave, and we broke this down on Basketball Illuminati, a response that was, he clearly lost the battle there. Said, I don't care, I have some thoughts that I don't care, and they're like, JJ, you can't do that, but this is what happens when you're used to arguing people online versus arguing someone real life, and that Charles Barkley takes that round.

But I submit to you, this was all a misunderstanding, and that he wasn't talking about Charles Barkley or inside the NBA. You know who he's talking about, Dan? Y'all. And specifically, that red-jacketed joker in the back over there. All that mess prior to Christmas break,

when I yelled at Mike and Mike got upset that I yelled at him, and when I patted him on the back to let him know, hey man, we're just doing show, he's like, and he tried to pat me on my back. And when I patted him on the back to let him know, hey man, we're just doing show, he's like, and he tried to pat me on my back. He's talking about you, man. He's talking about you and your negativity around NBA basketball.

That's cool, I wasn't watching. Thank you for updating me on the situation. I will say, as it regards some of this stuff and the packaging framing, and I mean, you're pretty astute as a front office guy on marketing type of issues. I remember Scott Boris the Super Agent in baseball said a long time ago during all the work stoppages and all the fights over the money that get fans really mad. Baseball is the only sport that takes a product off of the produce aisle, a can, throws it on the

floor, kicks it all over the floor then puts it back on the shelf and asks you to buy it. ESPN ran off Jeff Van Gundy and NBA ran off Jeff Van Gundy because that's too negative talking about the sport. We need a framing that's not quite... don't criticize the officiating all the time. You're great at what you do, but we need the voices to be a little more positive. A problem the NBA has is the people on its most popular show don't like today's form of basketball either. Shaq wants it in the post, Barkley plays down low, Kenny Smith will play along. Your biggest property doesn't always seem like it likes how they're playing today.

It's honestly something that college game day should monitor because what people love so much about college football is this tribalism, this fun that goes, that's associated with it. And it's veering off into Surly town where we're not having as much fun and we're just complaining about fans the entire time. And we're saying that the games are bad, even though we're the ones that air the games

and hype the games up and have hour-long specials telling you, hey, these might be the games in a couple of months. So it's something that everybody should monitor. Mike, do you know why it's happening? Social media? Yes, that's exactly it. We went from whether it was the leagues themselves

or the broadcasters crafting how we're going to talk about this product to checking online. What are people saying? I hope people are saying this. Let's follow that. Letting the cart lead the horse rather than the other way around. And I think it's a massive problem. Look, in the 90s and the 2000s, what was the league slogans for the NBA?

I'll stick for NBA. I love this game. I love this game, where amazing happens. And now it's like, what's trending? Too many threes! The number of people who said, oh, there was a game where 75 three-pointers were missed combined.

And I'm like, you're talking about the Charlotte Hornets? Who cares? It would be like judging college football by what happened in Liberty versus Elon Yeah, I mean I get you and social media is is look It's toxic and it seems as though the algo is just gonna make it more and more toxic But I'm not really take I'm at the level of disinterested where I didn't really start filing my complaints on social media about baseball If I'm asked about it on this show, I'll tell you my stale take on that, even though I credit them for making the changes

that I was asking for. Basketball, I'll catch up. If my team's good, that has a lot to do with it. I'll follow back up with basketball if the heat ever become good again, or they fix the things, because I have no interest in watching these top level games. I think my point about social media isn't that always to get rid of it it's the

people who control the product should stop following it stop listening to it because ultimately for the most part people will believe what you tell them to believe like last time when when the meaty was here and i talked about the idea that I said, hey, what do you guys miss? What you really miss is the Kurt Thomas mid-range

baseline jumper and the Tyrone Hill pick and pop. In the next week or so after that, the number of talking heads I saw on, not referencing me, but just echoing that same exact well you got dismissed mid-range shots by role players and I'm like while you are bolstering my point I'm like this is also making my grander point which is we need to just stop this echo chamber right and again that's fine for fans this people not not an echo chamber we need we the league you asked

me from a from a league perspective they need to control the narrative and that starts with yes a meeting with the commissioner and everybody who broadcasts league partners TV and radio and elsewhere Kirk Herbstreet has solved this problem he came out and said, my son runs my social media accounts for me. Every tweet I've been sending, it's actually been my son, which is definitely the biggest lie of the year. What?

Yeah, no way. He didn't say that. He literally did. He was like, I'm not on social media. My son runs my, he said, well, he said a buddy, actually my son runs my account. No, shut up. That feels like, did his son, wants my account. No, shut up, you're lying.

Did his son send out his own congratulations for committing? Yeah, absolutely. His son has been really active online, offering prayer support to everybody. He's been tweeting like crazy, but not Kirk Herb Street, who does love to go on air and be like, you know, the Ohio State fan base is vile, they're so nasty online, but how would you know that? Because your son runs your account.

Somebody please get in front of Kirk Herbstreet. The following, let him know this is so. I have already alerted Chris Fowler. I had to alert him that this was so. Even I'm going to let it slide. I'm going to be a good teammate. I'm going to let it slide. Everybody's going to be espion.

Because had you not taken the route you've taken, I would have lit their ass up. But I'm going to let it slide. You know what, because had you not taken the route you taken I would have lit their ass up but I'm gonna let it slide you know what guys congratulations Ohio State you won the game but hey if we're gonna be on the same team if we're gonna work for the same network don't do that Kirk Chris Fowler I promise you if you ever mention anything any platform that I'm on again and talking about I wonder what they're gonna say in negativity, I promise you, ESPN ain't got enough bosses to keep me off y'all for what I'm gonna say. So I'm gonna let y'all slide today,

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Stugats! You look like you're about to ask me to like check the oil on my car. Get him! Or like come over and like look around and point things in my house that need to be fixed. This is the Don Lebathor show with the Stugats! Music Music

Music Music Lucy has followed Greg Cody out of the room. She is doing some of the work to see what it would look like if Jared Goff is indeed named MVP and if Greg Cody then has to shave his eyebrows because he said there would be no circumstance under which Jared Goff would win MVP. Mina Kimes is appearing now to, she's had a real star turn here over the last month. Netflix and The Simpsons, like some pretty cool stuff has happened for her.

Some uncool stuff like what's happening in LA is also happening right now. Maybe we should start there before we're like, oh that's cool, what's happening? I'm happy that you mentioned that because while we make the content, we should issue that our thoughts and prayers are with everybody affected, which seems to be everyone in my life right now that I know that lives out there has had their life impacted by this. So, Amina, we're very concerned and we hope that you're okay. Yeah, it's been an absolutely wild 24 hours.

I am in my friend's guest room right now. There's a travel crib behind me for the YouTube audience, if you're wondering what that is and I don't know. It's just been absolutely surreal guys. I was flying back from Newark two nights ago When the fires really started kicking off on Tuesday night and we got the plane and there were some news reports at the time But I think everybody kind of assumed because we were being allowed to fly and land, it couldn't be that bad. And then you could see the plane sort of apprehend what was going on. And people were finding out on the plane that their houses,

their friends houses were burning to the ground. And overnight, my husband and my infant child came here because our house is pretty close to the second fire on the east side. And then last night, another fire sprang up pretty close near here, but luckily they were able to put it out pretty quickly because the winds had died down so much here in Los Angeles, but it's just been an absolutely surreal 36 hours or so. Fortunately things seem to be turning around a little bit, largely because the winds have died down. But I just, I mean, my son's friend's house burned to the ground. Everybody in their neighborhood lost their houses. It's just friends, family, friends,

people we know just up in flames. I've just never seen anything like this in my life when we feel the effects that feel apocalyptic about uh the stuff that's happening in the world climate related and otherwise wherever fears reside in california on what this stuff looks like it didn't actually look like this right i don't know when we fear the climate change stuff if we think 50 years down the road it's just going to be an explosion somewhere but it seems like all of this is a bit of forecasting for what things look like at the end where you don't have a precedent for what do you mean my home just gonna burn down not not here what do you mean hurricane winds during during fire and drought yeah it it hasn't rained here in months and so you know we've people

in LA are obviously very acutely aware of the fire risk it's not new particularly in the Malibu Palisades area but I think to just have that visually manifest itself so immediately the dryness combined with the unusualness of the winds and and that, I mean, we always get these Santa Ana winds, but this is, I don't know if I could say like once in a decade or whatnot, but the strength of them, the erraticism of them, that was the craziest part guys. Like on Tuesday, by the way, I flew by the fire and it literally looked like Mordor, like Lord of the Rings or something, but, um,

which was just surreal. But I think what the craziest part was on Tuesday, seeing the fires burning and growing at this amazing rate, watching the local news and hearing them say, we can't fight this right now because we can't put helicopters in the sky because of these winds was just stunning because I think with, you know, natural disasters or any kind of events like that, we're so used to authority figures just being able to fight them but we were talking about something these wins that nobody has any control over and it was just absolutely heartbreaking to see. I wish Mina you would have gotten some dark comedy humor out of while you were talking the sheer

panic that swept over the face of Chris Cody as he made sure some of the details you were giving, that the corner of the screen wasn't the video team putting Greg Cody losing his eyebrows, which is, I saw it show up in the preview and I saw just a blanket of fear sweep over the face of Chris Cody because as you were talking about these horrors, Greg Cody was getting

his eyebrow removed and video thought it would be a good time to put the photo of Mike Woodson up and Greg Cody losing his eyebrow. Good judgment by me? Yes, it was good work by you. Hey, welcome Chris. The panic on your face was good work. But I was saying by way of introduction, Mina,

that your last month at work has seemed like some of your, the weirdest dreams in the world coming true in a way that have, from over here it has brought me great joy to watch what seems like would be a great deal of fun at the center of football. Yeah, it's been a really fun month, I guess until now, for me, both at ESPN and doing some project outside of ESPN. The Simpsons game that we got to call was one of the more fun experiences of my life as a longtime Simpsons fan. Working on Christmas was pretty surreal.

And now we're in the playoffs. I just like as I was in Newark, I was on the East Coast doing NFL live from Bristol earlier this week. And it's been a when they suppose that it was most of you by the way and alive in l a on monday but as you guys i'm sure are aware it's pretty touch and go right now they're considering moving the game to phoenix and i think we will find out uh...

for a second what happens there with the ramsday what was the net flicks experience like what did you expect and just in terms of dizzying stuff that's happening with your career finding yourself in some of these places which is there one above all the others for you that's like all this is about the coolest thing i've known i could have never imagined this when i was a business reporter uh... the closely probably was doing the Simpsons game because as part of that experience I got to know the Simpsons show runner and one

of their writers and we were going back and forth all up to the game with just jokes and references and that was just such a cool experience for me personally. But doing the Nexus games it was a ton of fun. It was really unusual in that you're working with a bunch of people you've never worked with before. And I think it made me realize, oh, wow, doing NFL Live now for five years with the same crew, you don't get that many opportunities like that in television these days where there's so much people are talking about the chemistry. But beyond that, just kind of that inbuilt trust and comfort and working with each other, knowing when people are going to talk and whatnot.

So it was a novel experience with me to kind of be, I guess, you know, I feel bad comparing it to like an all star game because that implies that I'm an all star. I don't want to make that implication, but it was, it was really like, okay, we're teammates now. And the other thing that was very wild about it, Dan, was again, on NFL Live and all my shows, I usually have a lot of time to talk, but I realized on these pregame halftime shows, you don't have as much room.

Setting aside the fact that I was deeply aware of the fact that I had 45 seconds to give a take about CJ Stroud after Beyonce. Dang. So, you know, over 20 million Americans were just absolutely disappointed to see my face, and I tried not to let that trickle into my friends. Was it very pressurized, or was it okay? Were you able to take some of the air out of all

of it and make it less serious than Christmas Day, NFL? You know, the game, I just got so wrapped up in the game so quickly that I kind of lost sight of the context, because they were just quarterbacks I love watching and I was really interested in them and I got kind of locked into that. So yeah, I think that, and that's the fun thing about working in before, during and after games is like there's that energy.

That's what's different from doing the daily studio show, right, which I love doing. But when you're before and middle and after a game, it's more closer to the action and you're just sort of tied up in exactly what's happening on a field at that moment. Lucy, can you give us an update, please? Greg Cody, can you give us an update?

What's going on in the other room? Well, the concealer we have does not match Greg's skin tone at all. Okay, this isn't working. So it's... I'm thinking we're at cool. Yeah, none of this works. It's kind of working.

It's kind of working. I don't know, I kind of like it. We needed an orange concealer, a color corrector, which we do not have, None of this works. It's kind of worth it. I don't know, I kind of like it. We needed an orange concealer, a color corrector, which we do not have, and we need a foundation that matches Greg's skin tone, which we do not have. And the glue sticks we got were scented, so I think we needed a different type of glue stick, but we're working on it. Lucy, I'm going to tell you right now, it looks exactly like someone put two sticky patches over his eyebrows and ripped them off. It does! And so that the skin is so light now because of tearing off.

It looks like Lady Gaga at the beginning of The Starsborn when he gently peels her eyebrow off and kind of falls in love with her in that moment. What a compliment. Lady Gaga would be mortified that you have just compared her to a 70 year old man having his eyebrows apparently bleached and his skin distended. Lady Grega. to a 70 year old man having his eyebrows apparently bleached

and his skin distended. Lady Grega. Hey. Thank you Amin. That's nice. Thank you Amin. Thank you Amin, that's right. He's bringing it strong from the other room,

hopped up on pills and with no eyebrows. He's Greg Cody, ladies and gentlemen. Give me the fast music so I can ask Mina Kimes some hard hitting questions. I can't hear the music so I can ask Mina Kimes some hard-hitting questions. I can't hear the music. All right, Mina Kimes. Josh Allen or Lamar Jackson. Josh Allen or Lamar Jackson.

MVP. Who do you got? I voted for Lamar Jackson. It was extremely close to me. It went down to the wire. I got into it on my podcast with Dominique. Lamar Jackson, I just felt like, this is really what he did this year,

was just too hard not to vote for him. Explain to me why Derrick Henry is bigger and stronger than all the people who have ever been human. I don't know, man. I mean, I don't think people appreciate what he's doing, not just relative to, obviously, crazy, the yardage, but the fact that he is a historical anomaly in that his age and the amount of carries he has gotten,

the fact that he's still producing at his level, this just does not happen in the NFL. Wait, wait, I have a question about the Lamar Jackson thing, okay? Lamar's got plenty of MVPs. He may now have more MVPs and playoff wins, but that Ravens team offensively is loaded, loaded with first round talent.

In the off season, they add Derrick Henry, who's a unicorn of a talent. All Buffalo did their entire offseason was strip talent away from Josh Allen and in the big moment they won because of the plays that he made as a treat they gave him an Amari Cooper at the trade deadline. For me it's Josh Allen. Maybe it might be Jordan roles, Jordan MVP fatigue but you gotta give it to Josh. Josh Allen I would say say is a better offensive line. Raven's offensive line is pretty good. I think his group of past catchers is underrated. People are acting like James Cook is some schlub. He's actually been one of the better backs in the NFL this year. And Rarik Henry, I would contend,

this is just statistically true, benefits more from the presence of Lamar Jackson than the reverse. Lamar Jackson, by the way, statistically when Derek Jennery is not on the field, is the best quarterback in football as well. The Dolphins, please explain. Uh, which part? The Tyree Kill of it all or the constant? I mean, the Dolphins, please explain. They have to take the run game seriously this offseason or they're going to have a similar outcome next year. I thought that Mike McDaniel was supposed to bring run game just because he's Mike McDaniel. What happened? Turns out the human beings on the field matter,

offensive line matters. Aaron Rodgers, what's going to happen? I don't care. Tennessee Titans, what's going to happen? I do care. This one is sore because their owner is just like steering the ship and like going in every direction and constantly pressing the red button to fire people. I mean they have a number one overall pick. Problem is Carver, yours Mike's not a great quarterback draft. So I do think they're probably going to take quarterback. Is the single worst opponent to see first for Lamar Jackson, the one that he's getting? No, I don't think so. I just think the Seeler's offense has just been too bad as of late. Obviously the defense has given him trouble so I think it's going to be closer than that 9.5 point line. Explain George Pickens to me.

The talent up there with the highest of the highs, the unpredictability is what makes it hard to project. And I think to rank him amongst my receivers, like on any given play, he could do the coolest thing you've ever seen or the dumbest. Mina is what the Patriots saw out of Joe Milton. Discouraging, encouraging, or just encouraging. No, we're not doing this.

Or just encouraging. Can I say something by the way? I've hear it, encouraging, speaking of encouraging, I've say something, by the way? I'm hearing, encouraging. Speaking of encouraging, I'm hearing the music and it's not phasing me at all. You might want to retire this bit because it's not, I literally, it's in my ears and I don't care. It's not affecting me.

You're going very fast. You're doing very well. Who is better? Who is better? Ravens or Eagles? I think that the Eagles are better, but that the Ravens have the higher ceiling. Who is better, Lions or Bills?

I'm going to go Lions there, just because what they've shown on defense, I mean, it's just gonna be. Is that going to be the way Sam Darnold season ends, the way the last game did? I don't think so. I think he has to bounce back. He's very street quarterback though.

Packers, what are they? Very young team that looks like young team that has a lot of talent, great coach, good quarterback, but some flaws. Greg Cody, what do you got? Give me an update. I still look ridiculous, but we're getting there. Mina Kimes, the Houston Texans, what are they?

Disappointing. That one. Has CJ Stroud regressed or is it the pressure up the middle? It's both, but I think that the latter has led to the former. I think he'll bounce back next year. Better offensive line, Philadelphia or Detroit? Philadelphia, but it's close.

The Chiefs, are you willing to say they're not gonna make it to the Super Bowl? No, I am not. Do you believe that the Bills are better than the Chiefs? No. You did that very well, Mina. Congratulations. I know, I know. It's the first time you have ever done it correctly.

You have finally graduated to doing this well. And for the video audience who didn't see, she added an extra element of doing the mall walker while doing the answers. She was dancing around during it. She was not afraid of the music. Pressure no longer phases her. She is a conqueror.

Mina, thank you for being on with us. We appreciate the time. Always nice seeing you. It's great to see you guys. I'm disappointed that she is all of a sudden someone who can conquer music. I mean, she's still someone who walks in front of cameras on NFL live when she doesn't know where she is.

Yeah, we ran out of time there, but we definitely should have asked about that, right? Like this was throwback Mina, right? Just the, hey, where are the cameras? Hey, how does TV work? She was very confident during the music. It usually rattles her. Greg, Cody, what did we think of this experiment?

I still see eyebrows over there. I also see what I would call from here, and I don't know if this is the technical term or not, but caked death Seems to be above his Just little little little bits of crumbs of death. What is Rose doing? What is Rose doing? Nine people working on me right now. I don't know what's going on. That's how makeup works folks. I Get a team They call it the more team I don't know what's going on. That's how makeup works, folks. Get a team. I'm not colorblind.

They call it the MUA team. M-U-A-H, makeup and hair. Wow. What is happening above your eyelids? It just looks like a different color and it looks a bit like something has been left under a heat lamp for too long, perhaps a burger of some sort.

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