The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 2: Mina Kimes Saves The Day

Episode Date: October 27, 2023

"How Childhood is about Kirk Cousins." Mina Kimes, the most popular person in the DLS universe, joins Dan and Mike in Los Angeles to talk all things NFL: Myles Garrett, the Tush Push, Micah Parsons, Brock Purdy, Tua Tagovailoa, Kirk Cousins, Aaron Rodgers, Deshaun Watson, and more. Plus, we find out if Dan and Mina are DolphIN or DolphOUT. Then, Mina explains how the early stages of motherhood feel for her as she simultaneously has more and less time, watches a ton of football, and learns how to keep another human alive. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

You're listening to Giraffe King's Network. This is the Don Levertar Show with the Stugat Sputcast. I said before with Mike Sure that we were trying to save the show rescue the show, but now we're bringing in the heaviest hitter we've got. We're bringing in the most, maybe the most popular person in the history of our universe. Wouldn't you say? I would say so. That's not true.

There's no way that's true. I believe it. No, when it comes to fans of our show, I think you rate highest. It's either you or Jiu-Jiu-Gadi, I think, or Lucy's making a song along now. Yeah, Lucy, I get tagged. I was telling Mike, actually, when Mike came over to my house, I get tagged in a lot of the videos Lucy makes because people, in a positive, hey, you're going to love this, check it out, and it's true, I do love it.

That's great. We love Lucy. You're on the medal stand, for sure. I want to acknowledge that, though, because I feel like so many of our conversations are about how toxic the internet is over and over and over. And it's not all toxic. A lot of your listeners are like, hey, we love this.

Check it out. I was thinking about this the other day with McAfee growing up of a certain age Pat McAfee seems like he's a little hurt by having been popular all of his life. And now he's not 100% popular. And it actually, if I'm not betraying any confidences here, it reminded me of how you entered and your experiences with fame where I thought you were getting nothing but applause.

And you were getting an awful lot of applause, but you were being wounded because you come from the business world and you're being wounded by the occasional cruelty in a way that you've gotten so much stronger. I just wanted to ask about CJ Stroud. We just did it. I just said we've done it so many times and he just did it. He can't resist. Tell me about CJ Stroud. We've got so much football to talk about. He's so good. Tell me about motherhood.

Tell me about motherhood. We'll get to football this time. Hold on. Yeah. Mina, this is the first thing that you've done since you've had a baby. Congratulations. I thought you were going to say this is the first thing that you've done in reference to me having a baby the way you come out. I was like, Jesus. This is your grand reemergence. A baby who looks like Stugots, by the way. He looks more like Stugots than me, but I think all newborns come out of the wound looking a little bit like Stu gots.

They're a little squished faces condensed kind of the with the height ratio is Stu gots in. Um, I see it in the hands. You you met him. Yeah. Yeah. Why don't you you give him a review? Uh, he's very sleepy.

He was very sleepy. And I was afraid to touch him. A lot like Sue got. And Lenny is starved. Lenny is starved. Yeah, my main takeaway was that Lenny and I got along so much better than we ever have because Lenny is so starved for attention. He was loving it.

He was in your lap, in your face, the entire time. Mike came over to watch the dolphins' equal game. Yeah, and Lenny was on his lap the whole time. Lenny, of course, is mean as husband. Lenny is a co-host of mean of times's football podcasts, mean of time show featuring Lenny and ESPN and Omaha production. Thank you.

Yeah, I'm gonna start recording in a couple of weeks of your show. So thank you. I wanna get to all your footages. Do you miss talking into a microphone? You might. I told Dan that I was, it's like a clogged duck. All these takes are just, actually though, Twitter kind of negates that,

or mitigates it to some degree because I just do share some of my opinions. But yeah, it's been interesting to watch football without really having a place to put the opinions though for the first time in like five or six years. You and I because the Eagles because the Eagles were playing. We talked a lot about the brotherly shove. And one of the things that we kept saying is, well, how can you ban this? No one's gotten hurt. And since then Brock Purdy got hurt.

So the rest of the league, I imagine, is going to prop agandize this Brock Purdy injury as a reason as to why they should do this. But you were telling me something that I hadn't considered is that while the Eagles are the best at it, everyone is pretty good at this play. Yeah. I think there's this like narrative that only the Eagles are good about at it. But some teams have been pretty successful. Kayellen Collar did a really good piece. She's been kind of the push push. How do we all agree to do brotherly?

The Eagles got us all to say that. And that, I think, is by the way, hurting their cause because not only is there this narrative that only the Eagles are good at it, it now has a Philadelphia centric name, which if I'm how he roseman, I'm like, cut this out. No, we got to generalize it and we got to propagate or draw attention to the instances where other teams are good at doing it because the worst thing for Philadelphia is if there's the belief that only they are good at it. I think the Bears and the Bills for the two teams, she singled out as having pretty high success

rates doing it. I think it's because when the other teams are bad at it, notably the giants, like two offensive linemen got hurt, it is so buffoonish looking that we remember that, like all things forth down related, we only remember the failures. Whereas other teams have had six. I mean, Josh downland is a load. Can you pick it look bad at it, but it got a first down somehow in that game because Mike Tomlin is a wizard of some sort, a master of the dark arts.

Then that's the only way that you can explain it. We were talking some earlier this week about Miles Garrett and how there were guys and individual generations, like Julius Peppers, would stick out as someone that looked the part and played the part Reggie White also. But in this generation, there's like four guys that have a pretty good claim to defensive player of the year. What Miles Garrett is doing and improving and impacting the result of the game. Every time TJ Watt is playing a big game, he's impacting the result. So it's to me though that Miles Garrett is better than I mean, Mike Parsons and Watt

and Boses, they're all but Miles seems better to me. Seems and maybe it's because of the physical strength. It's not I'm not just seeing a body type that is quick and faster than everyone else, but he's so clearly stronger than everyone else too. Uh, yeah, I mean, he, I think that there's like a probably a top tier of like four guys you mentioned, some of them, maybe three actually at this point. No, four, I'll put Watt Bosa, Parsons and Garrett in that tier. And right now Miles Garrett is defensive player of the year. Some of I do think his physique stands

out. I also think though that on tape, Micah Parsons is as fast and strong, not as, but like, you know, it's pretty similar. Is it the running game? Maybe pushing miles. Garrett, I think how they're using him this year. I mean, when you see clips of him lined up over the A gap, like doing Alan Everton style cross it. You're like, oh, my God, that's the craziest thing I've ever seen. And that's, you can see the terror and the eyes of the offensive lineman because they're not sure where he's coming from. I mean, the Brown's defense is so good. Has been so good that that's helped him as well, like stand out and he gets to play with better defensive

lineman. But it's you know there's a thing going around the NFL right now where offense is down. It's I'm sure you guys have noticed that and part of it is because there are so many good head rushers like there's that tier but then there's a second tier that's really really good. It feels like every team has a superstar head rusher at the moment, and they're all being deployed, and not all of them, but a lot of them are being deployed in really interesting ways. But yeah, he's been, I mean, he, a defensive player won't win MVP,

but if there was, he is single-handedly winning games for that football team that you know. That's a huge airwalker keeps playing football games. I wanted to ask you about Brock Pertie, because he mentioned Brock Pertie. I find super interesting this part of the Brock Pertie story. You know better than most that we have evaluated quarterbacks very poorly for a long time at various points.

Basically, if you won football games, you could be Tim Tibo and we'd be confused about what the assessment should be about your quarterbacking skill. But what I am seeing in the instantaneous nature of us needing to have an assessment on what Brock Pertie is and assuming that the system is why Brock Pertie is. I couldn't believe the other day that our evaluation, it seemed like, went very quickly from Brock Pertie, maybe, an elite quarterback to Brock Pertie, maybe an elite quarterback to Brock Pertie is what I said. He is a system quarterback. And all of that analysis was being pushed without the knowledge.

He was a lot worse after he seemingly got that concussion than he was before that. The two interceptions and whatever you're blaming him for, because you're saying win-one on the road, win-one late, win-one in a pressure situation. He's concussed and we didn't know he was concussed. I think that's true. I also think he haven't watched his tape throughout his career. Does put the ball on harm's way a little bit and has gotten away with some throws that he could have been turned over. In other instances, he was punished for it in this game. He was also concussed. It's very, as with all things quarterbacking, it's hard to parse out the individual responsibility from the context. And of course, with Chanahan,

Kyle Chanahan, quarterback, the context is so different from other teams that it makes it even harder. Right now, we are seeing Jimmy Garoppolo separated from that context. It looks very different. Now, he's older and he's obviously, he's injured at the moment. He's been battling injuries, but which isn't to say Brock Perdi is entirely a product of the system and he's Garoppolo 2.0, but I think that the Garoppolo case is illustrative of how much that offense, what it does for quarterbacks. And people always point to, well, Kyle before he had

Purdy, he wasn't winning as much, but the team wasn't what they are right now. Like it drives me crazy when people bring up Kyle Shanahan or quarterback numbers from before the last couple of years. They didn't have the team of all pros. When Kyle Shanahan got to San Francisco, skill players were bad.

So it's actually really noisy to bring in stack quarterback stats, win loss records from those years. It's hard to evaluate him. And I say that not to say he's bad. I don't think he's bad. I think he's played really well in that context of that system. But it doesn't matter. Does it matter that to a might look like more like Kenny Pickett in Kenny Pickett's offense and that Kenny Pickett might look a little more like Brock Purdy in San Francisco's offense? Doesn't matter why the quarterback is looking excellent. When you say doesn't matter, I think it's like, well, what's the question being asked? How good is this person?

How good is the quarterback? How good is the quarterback independent of all of the variables that go into quarterback assessment? If I throw Patrick Mahomes on any team, he's going to be good, correct? Yes. It matters when you're making decisions about the quarterback. So if you're a team like Las Vegas and you're like, okay, we're going to grab this guy from this offense, that's when it matters.

I guess it matters if we're trying to have abstract conversations as we do of like, you know, how good is the quarterback, whatever. But it doesn't matter when you're talking about the quarterback, can you be successful on this team? Tuwa is a perfect fit for that offense because of his skill set in terms of the accuracy and anticipation. We all know this. So the question, what is Tuwa in a vacuum, it doesn't matter right now. It would matter, I think

when you're, if he was leaving the team, what's going to matter when they have to pay him? They have to pay him. It's going to matter when there are competition for what is his value. But the coach is going to stay. You know, I think some of the players will say, I mean, we'll see when Tyree Kill eventually coast down, but Jalen Waddle will still be on that team. You're still going to have really fast players. You've got an innovative coach. You have a quarterback who's a really good fit with the coach. You have to consider all of these factors. I hope I don't sound like I'm equivocating, but I think like too often when we talk about quarterbacks, it always comes down to the inner vacuum. How do we rank them? She hasn't

gotten any better about the equivocation. She still has way too much context. She's got to get better at the take at the, she's got to tell us the way we talk about quarterbacks is stupid. Yeah. Well, it's only got to get done. Or Sam Darnold has a good game. I know. I made a joke about it. I will have a good game. I mean, it's, it's going to be so toxic. It, but you notice, right? The, the most toxic, it's moved from two at a perdius here. It used to be two at now. It's perdi. The most toxic conversations around quarterbacks are always the ones where it's hard to isolate them from the context. It's funny, though. It's legitimately funny

that we're sitting here and we don't know how good Brock Purdee actually is. But he's so cheap too, which is another thing that matters when we talk about him. Like the fact that he is that cheap makes, you know, it doesn't have to be as good because of what it allows them to do with the rest of the team. It's like what are the great man theory of, you know, a history? We do this with quarterbacks and we really, especially I think at a moment where like all the,

we have certain coaches who are so good at scheming and so many skill players who are so talented right now. That's another thing happening. Oh my God, the White receiver play, the young White receiver play in the NFL right now is insane. We shouldn't subscribe to this great man theory when it comes to quarterbacks. You don't need Patrick Mahomes to be really good in the end for your team to be really good. That's exactly how it helps. Yeah, it does help. That's why we came out to Hollywood. To get that analysis from Mina. Patrick, my homes will help your team. Don Lebatard.

It's just one way for the audience. We may be established on some reasonable out. Yeah, so that's it. It's so fun. He's so nice. He's so nice. Stop everyone with the space to our way. He's more than you do.

Still gots. I always like leaving my hand off the tickets. Because he's so vulnerable, I just unfairly fade down the tickets. He just really can buy himself. This is the Don Lebatar show with a Stugat. Mina in line with the last segment that we just had about wondering aloud about quarterback evaluation. There's been one name that we've been wondering about for a decade and it's Kurt Cousins. And he has value this year. And while the contract number is big, there

are some unique things about that contract that might make it appealing to acquire him. And he'd be an upgrade over a lot of these teams that would seemingly be a Kurt Cousins away. Jetsons and for six months. I mean, right now in season in season, it's a, it's a very affordable contract, but Jetson San for Cisco are the two that are most associated. Mina has another team that it would make a lot of sense for. There's a few teams I think that he would make sense for, but he has no trade costs,

which is important. I personally think if I'm Kirk cousins and you're looking at a team like Atlanta or Cleveland, which I don't think they'll do it because of the Watson contract, I would go there, the Jets. He should want to, I mean, I would think he would want to be in, you know, Minnesota, they're going to compete, but they're not a playoff. They're not a good team. I think if I were him, I would want to play for a good team.

I don't know what matters to him. The judge can't be in play though. If Aaron Rogers will come back week 13 or week 14. Well, if he's trying to come back, what you're, okay, he's not going to come back. I would be unprecedented. It would be unprecedented. It'd be a medical marvel. Yeah. So talk about the jet season as if him coming back week 13 is a realistic proposition. I think does a disservice in that yet you have to mention it but it shouldn't guide their

decisions at the position yeah that i agree but cousins doesn't win the super bowl i think he could i think that team with kirk cousins could win the super bowl i really do i i i um... i'm like a little bit billed

i think i've arrived at the place where now where i think he's underrated as a quarterback and actually i think um... in quarterback series, they were asked that in both Mahomes and Mario to said Kurt Cousins when they were asked who's an underrated quarterback. Obviously, this is easier to say coming off of Monday Night Game, which is maybe one of his best performances in the NFL. Certainly, his best performance in prime time. But I've actually thought this for the last, I wanna say like year and a half or so, he is taking risks he didn't use to take

as a quarterback in terms of throwing down field and attempting challenging throws. He's always had the throwing ability in the game, but he's always been a little bit reversed. I was impressed though by Monday night against, whether San Francisco is healthy or not, doing that without Justin Jefferson, doing, having that game and throwing whatever it was 55 times

because they knew they had a hot quarterback and doing it in prime time when he's had like one decent prime time game. I was stunned by all of that. I think you saw the difference between... There's this kind of joke in the football nerd internet that there's like, when you tear a. There's the Kirk cousins tier of quarterbacks. You throw in Purdy, Tana, like all the got the Shanahan quarterbacks, we call them. And then Kirk cousins is the best of the Kirk cousins tier. I think you saw last night. It's like, oh, he might actually be above his own tier of quarterback.

I when I try to rank quarterbacks for the season, which I know I just spent 15 minutes lashing at the concept of trying to evaluate quarterbacks in a vacuum and making fun of it. And yet I do it as well. I do rankings. I usually end up putting him in that 10 to 15 range. People were laughing at, I think, Aikman said he's a top 10 quarterback. It's such a trick.

I remember saying Rex Grossman was a top 10 quarterback, just because I couldn't find nine other quarterbacks that everyone can agree with. Yeah, because once he gets a number eight, like eight through 15 are pretty interchangeable. But the 10th best quarterback in that league is better than he was when Rex Grossman was playing. Like Kirk Cousins, I think everyone listening this might have doubts about Kirk Cousins, but what also know, okay, he's serviceable.

I might everything might need to be right for him to win a championship, but he's serviceable. Like he's somebody that you could pay money and feel decent about quarterback play. Well, San Francisco is the ultimate case study for it's like in these big moments throughout the Jimmy Garoppolo era, he was probably the 15 to best quarter back who was putting up video game numbers. All the stats are just fake and that often. So the, but then in these like huge moments, notably the Super Bowl, he couldn't make that one throw.

It was the difference between. So it's like, okay, well, how good does our quarterback have to be? Is Kurt Cousins the guy? And they took the leap with Traylance. They're like, we're going to try for them a home scene, which is to say, let's take a shot out of quarterback with tools who maybe can elevate the offense. Obviously, it was a mis-scooted him or whatever. His Kurt Cousins splitting the difference.

Is that the difference? Will that be enough for us or for these other teams that we've been talking about? It's interesting that we've come around on him to a degree that he presents a clear upgrade at the position over with regard to some pretty good teams and Cleveland being one of them and not to just fixate on the quarterback position, but this is an organizational call if they were to entertain and Saphanski does have ties to Kirk Cousins. They've got a really bizarre situation right now with the Sean Watson. He clears a concussion protocol, but he doesn't return to the game.

PJ Walker starting again this week against the Seattle Seahawks weird reporting going on surrounding the Dishon Watson injury situation. In your opinion, I know you're plugged in. What's going on here? So it's not irresponsible to say it's weird because the weird comments are coming from the coach. It's not even like the reporting around it like, oh, who knows what's the severity of the injury in the arm and we're hearing different reports. No, your own coach was saying he was fine. Your own coach was like, yeah, we kept him out even though he was cleared. And then your quarterback saying, no, I wasn't clear. Like it's confusing. And then right after the game, your own coach is saying, it's on to Seattle.

DeShon Watson's going to be a quarterback. Then days later, it's like, no, actually, there's this reporting. Oh, he's got this injury. It's really serious. He might be out for weeks. Oh, it hurts baseball players like four to six weeks. I saw that. And you can understand where that's probably coming from. Is all of this, this injury and the spin on it coming from a specific camp because it doesn't seem like the organization in the player are aligned. Mike has said somebody's lying and it feels like someone's on.

You love to shout that and in all circumstances someone's lying allows us to a theory that I'm running with here, Mina, is that an injury like this, ambiguous, hard to nail down a timeline for, conveniently does extend a timeline in which Dishon Watson would be judged against. And when you have that contract, and when you're lacking in confidence, and when the film that you've put out there has been such, this could be a convenient injury. Mike, I think Mike has created a scenario, a conspiracy theory where DeShon Watson is having surgery just to protect not having to play anymore and show that he's not as good at football as he used to be.

I don't know who's lying, but I do know this before the season, I think we, maybe when talked about, I was like, by mid season, if Watson's not playing well, and I think we can all agree, he's not playing. Well, you can, again, the question is whether he's heard. The Titans screw up all these samples, too. I guess people just pointed out he was good against the Titans or terrible. He was also playing poorly before the injury. We talked, we talked about in public, podcast. Anyways, if by, I said midway to season, that's we're not even there yet. He's not

planning well. You are going to the covering of the asses, which I realize is unfortunate language when we talk about this particular player, is going to start and it's going to come from all sides because someone fuck and who was the driving force behind the acquisition? Was it the owner? Was it the GM? I mean, the GM ultimately does bear responsibility. Andrew Berry for this. He somehow escaped. Nothing on this was and the statements from the owner. The responsibility lies squarely on Jimmy Haslum's daughter. I think everyone can agree. That press conference, by the way, is not going to age well. Oh my God.

The coach, everyone's going to start the, I mean, this always happens in the NFL where you start getting reports, it's like, oh, he never wanted him or oh, this, you know, the coach actually wants, he wasn't actually hurt. Whatever the point is, there's got a fast and furious. Everyone's going into job saving mode or you know wants to preserve some degree of their reputation and you're going to start this is like so predictable of course you're going to start getting weird reports coming from all sides that would seem to impute someone else for the failure and it's so stark because you have a team with a super bowl caliber defense that I think maybe was not something that everybody saw coming where it's so obvious

that all they need is competent quarterback play. If Jacobi Berset was still on this team, they would be viewed as competitive. Speaking of weird injury stuff, there were a couple that got my attention last week. The Bajon Robinson thing where he has headaches at night doesn't seem to have a history of migraines and wakes up in the morning and says he's so foggy that he's trying to play but doesn't know where he is, is super confused. And I'm listening to that and thinking, well, how does this happen? What happened to his head that would make all of this so? And then I juxtaposed it against Jamal Adams is fighting with concussion doctors on the sidelines. And I'm like, is something happening

with the heads here that is in this nebulous area where we don't know what the science is. We don't know with a Brock party had a concussion here. What is happening that Jamal Adams would be fighting with doctors that way. And what is happening that B. John Robinson is suddenly unavailable for a game and nobody had any notice. Well, the Robinson thing, I mean, I, you know, I used to get my rings. It can be really, really brutal. So I don't know in terms of like what exactly he's dealing with the way the Falcons handled

it was strange, which is why the NFL, I mean, I don't care if what Arthur Smith says, he's very like combative about it. Yeah. He's kind of combative, dude, with the, it continues to be strange. It's weird. Yeah. The timing of it, the like, okay, way we can use him for only for this situation. Like, that's, it's weird.

Arthur Smith saying he'd rather talk world politics than the drama of that that he was suggesting. Why can't we talk about, no, not climate. Let's talk about Israel, Arthur. You want to, you want to talk about everything happening there? Um, he's kind of defensive generally with the press, so, but, you know, it's like, don't, you know, it was odd. Um, but I'm not like, I, like, you know,

I don't know what's going on with him. Adams, too, that was weird because the first concussion where he got into the doctor, people were like, how can you find him for this? He's concussed. Everybody said he's concussed. But then the second time where you like got into the doctor, he wasn't concussed. So the error, you know, so I think that was just nobody really know what to do with that the second time around. But this is the NFL. Like their injury designations are always going to be a little bit strange. I mean, the pretty thing, we didn't even know he was

concussed until days later. And then you saw it and you're like, oh, yeah, obviously. But you could do that so many times on a Sunday, you could pull out a plane, say he was clearly concussed. I mean, you know, if- Got a minute left in this segment. And there's a lot of local audience that, maybe in one time, probably when in your mentions

last season, when they're they're still there's still a making videos about stuff. Sorry, but you're your dolphin. I don't want to do. Are you dolphin? I don't want to you do the one minute. I want to. I want to talk about the dolphins in more than a minute. I just don't want more. No, no, we cut right to it. She's dolphin. She's not dolphin. I'm still dolphin. I mean, I think the Eagles last we watched together had a lot to do with like finally injuries

on the offensive line. Bad officiating. Bad officiating. Yeah. Game changing officiating. I don't remember exactly how I felt about every call, but yeah. The Cetric Wilson thing was crazy.

You got a face mask and that was bad. That was really bad. Yeah. I think they'll be fine. But you're still Dolphin. I think I'm still Dolphin. I think they'll be fine, but you're still dolphin. I think I'm still dolphin. I think they'll be fine I'm not terribly worried Are people dolphin?

What does that mean? What do I think they go in the Super Bowl? Yes, they obviously look like a team that can win the Super Bowl if they're healthy That's dolphin. Okay. I guess I am done. Lebertard That's how it's gonna end. The mailing and end of the retirement. Chris go get me this is just an a be him coming out and hitting the one and two notes of that kind of thing. And you know it's just giving us finger guns and leave it. Baby. You should listen to the great Cody show podcast because that's all we do for 55 minutes a week is just say catch phrases. We even make songs about them And you know it is a song for crying out loud. That's great. Hopefully that's a sui nominee for best song

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You care about this stuff and obsess about this stuff in a way that is addictive and a bit nuts. You care about this stuff and obsess about this stuff in a way that's truly passionate. How much have you missed not being able to give your opinions on football in front of a microphone? Well, we were talking about this before we started a little bit. And I struggled to convey the millions of your listeners who are like, I have a kid, I know exactly what this was like. It's like I have more time and less time at the same time.

Christopher Nolan really should do a movie about the first four weeks about having a baby. If you thought, ten, it was like a trip. Cause that's just, you're just like, where did the day go? But then I had all, I was on my phone cause you know, when I'm feeding him or whatever, whatever. Yeah, what's your screen time telling me? You know what I mean? It's not great, it's alarming. feeding him or whatever, I'm literally- What's your screen time telling me to do that?

It's not great. It's alarming. But it's also, I'm like, what did I watch? I am up to the Amethyst League on Duolingo Korean, but I don't feel like I've learned any Korean. It's, you know, by the way, Duolingo, why are they always trying to make you befriend, you guys are on Duolingo?

They're always trying to make you befriend people on it. It's like, I don't want to be friends with Mike S. in Kansas who's giving me a high five because I learned Korean verbs, you know. Um, but I'm watching a lot of football and a lot. And so like I was I'm watching more college football than ever because I'm home. I'm not I have not watched Miami. You keep asking me about players who are not even draft. Well, you're going to, this year, when you prepped for the draft in two years and Rubin Baines talked about as a number one overall pick, I want you to go back to the Clemson

film. I, it's, it's, I actually feel like being a Husky's fan this year is kind of what must feel like being a Miami fan in terms of just like watching your offense, like do crazy stuff and completely obliterate. You mean to Miami dolphins fan? Yes. Certainly not Miami or a can't spend. So you ran into the powerhouse that is ASU. Yeah, so okay, so to actually answer your question, sorry, I feel like I'm taking it all in

and it has nowhere to go. I'm very active in many group chats now, perhaps sharing my opinions there. I don't really mind not being on TV or having a place to send them all, but I am excited because it's not like I'm like, oh, I'm so clogged and I just asked, it's gonna be a takesplosion or whatever. It's more just like, oh man, I there's so I'm noticing so many interesting things I can't wait to have conversations with people about them What has surprised you about motherhood? What is it that you had no idea that you were embarking upon? This is I'm trying to cite how real to be because it's all really gross visceral stuff. Just how like animalistic it all is, I think just primal. It's primal, yeah. And just like you're really keeping another human alive. And I'm not

good at that. I killed all my Tamagotchi's. I've never successfully kept a plant going. So I have a hard time with cacti keeping cacti. We have a lot of plants in our house and my husband takes care of all of them. I do not. I guess Lenny was good practice on that front, but yeah, it really, and you, it really does, it's weird because it would actually require all your attention, but it's not like work attention where you have to be dialed in. It's just like you actually just have to hold him. Yeah, and you're not necessarily getting the positive reinforcement that you're getting

is just they've stopped crying for a little bit of a minute here because they needed to fart. Yes. And also just going back to the physical aspect of it, you're just constantly in weird positions and you have to stay there. Like the other day, like yesterday, I was sitting on my sofa and you'd finally stop crying, but he was like on one arm, so that arm couldn't do anything. And then Lenny was on my legs. It was like misery, like Kathy Bates, you know, like I was just like, well, so that arm couldn't do anything. And then Lenny was on my legs.

It was like misery, like Kathy Bates. You know, like I was just like, well, I guess I'm just here now. And I just had to stay in that position for 45 minutes because I was trapped by... Do I have this wrong as someone who is childless? It seems to me like the first six months of having a child wouldn't come with a great many obvious rewards that you're, you've succeeded by keeping the child alive, but the interactions you can't, whatever the connection is, is not, obviously, a spoken connection. It's something that must be felt.

Yeah, that's true. It doesn't, he doesn't speak to me. You're correct. Yeah. Uh, he hasn't said said thank you yet for anything. That'd be nice when it gets it when it gets there. It won't come until his teams are 20. It's not it's not coming soon. It's my perspective as a father. It's like I one Juliet started reacting and that doesn't happen for like at least eight months. Then you're start like, oh, not just a wet potato. Yes. I remember with you, beautiful, wonderful wet potato that I have to keep alive.

But the first few months, they just look so uncomfortable and you're trying to figure out how to help. And they're not exactly there to tell you, like, oh, yeah, no, that's working. Yeah, it's, it's difficult. Yes, right. Cause when you're crying,

you're just, you're just going through your like, okay, like the decision tree of like, did he poop? Yeah, okay. You'd, I fed him. I held him. What's going on? He could be dying or he needs the bur, okay, I fed him. I held him. What's going on? He could be dying or he needs the burp.

It could be either one of those two. Yeah, I think right now the validation is less so from my son and more so like feeling, guess how weird, but like proud of myself for doing things I didn't know I could do. Literally body doing things that I just never occurred to me or whatever. And then like the teamwork aspect with my husband, this is saying the sound really corny. But like, it's beautiful. It's at the end of the day when like we actually did the day and it was tough and we got through it together, I'm proud of us for being a team

and it has brought us closer together. That's where love, I would imagine, grows around becoming about someone else's life instead of your own. I would assume that that's the thing that people rave about or why they choose. Well, it was always about my own anyways, bud. Yeah, you know, it's got to be like, you know, offensive defensive coordinate and like high five, you know, no, it's got to be like, you know, like, you know, the offensive defense accordingly, like high five, you know, did it.

You're side of the ball came through today, cause I'm good play. Usually an in-law comes around and special teams did it's job. Yeah, and then our quarterback is like, you know, he's, he's our Brock Bird. He's just executing the system, trying to turn the ball over. Yeah, it's so that part is validating. And so it's like, it right now, this, oh, do I sound like I'm patting myself on the back? No, no, I mean, it's as someone that has gone through it, it's not as revelatory, but I do think that the audience appreciates what your experience is with it because they've known you a certain way

the entire time and you've said it yourself, it's not necessarily something you ever really envisioned for yourself motherhood. Yeah, I think as well, you can say the most analytical answer to Pablo Torrey that I shown like six friends this video because it was so quintessentially mean like her talking about becoming a mother and how

analytical she was about the decision to get there. Here's something I'll say that it is surprised me. That's beyond just like, wow, you know, my boob's leak now. By the way, I've been looking down at me on that. I am someone who my whole life has struggled a little bit with personal pride in doing a thing. I'm in this, to bring it back to the internet. Now, if you could bring it back to Kirk Cousins later

on, that'd be great. Yeah, try. If I get 99 comments in 98, or I don't know, I just said, I'm 100, 99 are positive. And one's negative, negative one stands out to me. I'm not like, wow, I really crushed that. I don't feel that, but I feel my failure is a lot more acutely.

This is one where it's almost like that dynamic has reversed. I don't feel like the failures are expected and the successes are surprising. Does that make sense? Wow. It just allows you to be super gentle with yourself. What a great gift for a child to get through. You put it that way. Yes. I'm like, because you know what? I know it's less hurt cousins. I am more of the Brock Pruity and the Synology because I went into this with very low expectations. I've seen the reports. You are not getting on salary. I am. Pick 199 in the parent draft, y'all. Nobody was like, she's going to crush this.

Your cap number is not as fun. I am. Yes, I am lucky when I complete a pass. I'm like, oh my God. And you know, maybe Devo Samuel took it for 80 yards, but that screen was on time. And so, yeah. You're surprised when you succeed as a parent. That's, you are articulating it as you do. That's because you just never had expectations for it. Never had expectations. Not something I thought I would be great at.

Not like I was like, wow, I'm gonna fail, it was gonna be awful, but like it's just not, I go at like, you know, when I was in school and I would go into a test, anything less than, hey, I'd be like, you were the worst. You know, I go in with certain expectations. I did not go into parenthood, expecting to crush it. Every morning, I do not expect to crush it.

I mostly expect to fail. I expect he's going to cry a lot. When I try to change his diaper, it looks fucked up. And you know, when the nurse does it, it looks amazing. And I'm like, what? How? Why? Wait, it's so simple. Why? It's on his head, you know? The tape is like around his body, like the mummy. So anyways, every day I go into the day being like, and when I do something right, when he like kind of smiles, he's probably just burping, but I'll call it a smile. I'm like, damn, I actually feel pretty proud of myself.

Oh, that is wonderful. What a great gift for a child to give. That's so weird, like, I don't think people understand. It's your heartwarming answer by Kim. Maybe they do enjoy it. Meena's feelings sponsored by Venmo. She is so prepared. Meena, I always used to laugh,

because it's a highly questionable, like look, my dad's doing it over there in a second language, like why are you so prepared? It's your two prepared. This one doesn't come with a whole lot of, it must be, to me, it sounds given your personality type, like the responsibility of this before choosing it would feel totally overwhelming

because how do you prepare for this? That's the other thing. I am not a prepared parent. Like I play it as it lays. I am not, like I'm trying, but I really am not like I have to read this and optimize every decision and this and if it's going to be the end of the world, I'm like, eh, we made it. Yeah, what a great gift for a child to give you. I mean, a seriously not just the idea that you would be more forgiving for of yourself, but that you would also allow yourself to be less constrained by your own limits or things that you do to protect your insecurities so that you won't feel insecure. This is how Kurt Cousins is playing now. He is not like he is not mechanical. He's just throwing it up to Justin Jefferson and Jordan Addison

and hoping one of them comes down with the football. Yeah, you brought it around me and congratulations. Yeah. How childhood is about Kirk cousins? How everything is about Kirk cousins. She's ready to get back in the game. Hahaha.