The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 2: Mina's Hot Take Close-Up

Episode Date: January 4, 2024

Jessica cannot understand the current craze surrounding new Stanley Cups, Shannon Sharpe's interview with Katt Williams was incredibly entertaining, and Dan is going to give AROD a gift under the desk on the next South Beach Sessions. Then, Mina Kimes is back to break down the Dolphins-Bills showdown, QBs as game managers, the Baltimore Ravens, and Nick Sirianni. Plus, we get to the dirtiest football analysis possible with some truly gross QB matchups coming up this weekend. Will we get to Jets-Patriots? And can Mina deliver a big-time hot take close to the camera like Stugotz? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

You're listening to Giraffe King's Network. This is the Dunlabel Tarshall with the Stugat's Podcast. Jessica, I feel like I'm left out on a trend that I was not aware of. You have come in with one of those giant Stanley cups and you are informing me that this is the most popular thing now. There are lines everywhere all over our country. People are outside actually. It's not just trying to order by delivery on the internet.

They're going to places and forming old-fashioned lines in order to get a cup that I am here to say, even though Flanagan's is not paying me for this, is perhaps the second best cup anywhere to be found in the world, but that Flanagan's has the greatest of all the cups to be found in the universe and should be insulted by the fact that there aren't lines at Flanagan's to get flanagans cups instead of the Stanley Cup that is very big and looks very expensive to me. You're telling me that America's wasting money on cups. I have so many thoughts on this phenomenon. So yes, first of all, agreed.

The flanagans cup, flanagans cup, Mike is holding one right now, the best cup ever. It does sweat a lot. What? You need to sweat when you're eating the wings or the ribs to kind of like wash it off. cup Mike is holding on right now. The best cup ever. It does sweat a lot. Hmm. What? You need the sweat when you're eating the wings or the ribs to kind of like wash it off. It's an all-purpose cup. The Stanley Cup you can one can only really drink out of. But somehow via TikTok and the internet and viral trends, we talked about this last year

with Billion and how if you Google Stanley Cup now, this is what you see. You do not see the hockey trophy Stanley Cup. You see this 40 ounce tumbler thing that costs like 50 bucks. You could do some damage with this. Is it a style and fashion thing? Like people want to be seen holding this cup? People want to collect different colors of the cup and only in this style because this brand has been around for decades, but for some reason it caught on on the internet.

And now this week, people were, the camera is way too zoomed in on me. Please, back that up. I did not get enough sleep last night for this kind of level of close-up. But people have been lining up outside of Target to get a special edition Stanley Cup. It's a $50 cup give or take. $50. It's coming out in like these special Target Valentine's Day edition colors that are like hot pink.

And it's resailing, I have seen on eBay, people reselling the cups that were hard to get this week for like over $200. For a $50 cup that you just drink. All right, what are we doing? And it's not even I, I, I like the cup. That's a damn good cup. I have one of the cups.

I will say it's not let it's no flanagan's cup. First of all, second of all, it leaks. What are we doing? Though, I look back, you sealed. I don't mean to sound. I'm going to sound like the world's oldest person not understanding a country that is making popular a $50 cup. I know there are all sorts of forms of the apocalypse and coaching upon us, but really like do it and Not under I sound like the world's oldest person not understanding the popularity of a $50 fashion cup

I completely agree with you Dan I find it baffling because I think like the purpose of of these cups is it's better for the environment to drink out of a reusable cup than to buy plastic or use plastic that is one use. The single use plastic that you can't really recycle. It'll keep your drink cold for like two months. No, these ones actually, the ice melts. So I also have a ton of yaddies because yaddies are in my opinion the best of this kind of like vacuum seal cup thing and they also don't leak. If you put them upside down with the lid on,

water does not come out. These water comes out and also the ice melts very quickly. It's also very difficult to clean out the straw. There was someone on TikTok, not with one of these cups specifically but one of the other very trendy viral cups who didn't realize that there was like mold growing inside the lid and she was getting sick because she was just inhaling mold all the time. So you have to clean them very intricately.

Whereas the Yeti has like two parts, you just clean it and that's it. Put it in the dishwasher, whatever. I don't understand this either, Dan. I think it's totally bizarre because like I was saying, the purpose of like a reusable cup is that it's better for the environment, but now it's become like a collector's item. You have coffee in there? Yes. I have a coffee in there.

All right, well, forgive my ignorance. And it's just becoming one of those like over-consumption things where it's like people are collecting tons of them just to have them. And it's just kind of defeating the purpose of why you would buy a cup like this to just use it and not buy, you know, like a regular plastic cup. Mike Ryan, are you looking because she was drinking so vigorously with from that cup that

has an undertow in it? And she had a lot of coffee. Is it because of the speed and the amount of information when she gets passionate around these things, she speeds up whether she's having the coffee or not. And I don't still know how you got this one. What did you get it recently? Was it hard? This one was hard to get. This was just a regular, regular, old Stanley Cup, not one of the special edition collectors items cups, Lehman, because he heard us talking about it on the

show a few months ago. God, it for me, like, it kind of has a bit like, ha, ha. Look, I got you a Stanley Cup for Christmas. So I've been using it. And I do like it. It fits in the cup holder. It's a nice cup. It's very, it's a good quality. It's very expensive, but you know, I'll probably use it a lot, so it'll be worth the cost per use I would assume. But it's not like I don't understand the impetus to collect. If you go on TikTok and you can see people that have every single color of this cup and it's just like hanging on their walls. The question I now have for you, please forgive my ignorance here, but the only reference point I have for this

in my lifetime was the cabbage patch doll in the children wanted 30 years ago. You're telling me this cup is a global or it is a national phenomenon that is the craze of all buying crazes that people are physically going to places to get something and not just demanding that the internet bring it to them. Yes.

And I just don't, I don't get it. It's a cup. Like the beanie babies, that was, I mean, that had its own weird bubble. Same thing. You can cuddle with that at least. It was a unique toy. It was, I mean, I know like moms in Naperville are kind of what made the beanie baby blew up, but you could kind of say like, okay, like kids liked collecting

them and they had different cute little fuzzy faces, but this is just cup. I don't get it. And I guess like, I don't, I don't think like the people doing it, like I have no beef with them. Like they're not really doing anything like that bad. It's not really hurting anyone, but I just find it bizarre. Chris Cody, why are you just? Well, I'm a very, I'm pro Stanley. If you're out there watching Stanley, I love you. Okay. That's it.

Why are you guys showing this? Shilling for Stanley Cup over here. For all Stanley. My wife loves them. She has four. Okay. Really? All right.

Mike, Brian, I need some assistance with something here because I really don't know how to talk about some of the things in the industry that I want to talk about without people feeling like I am salty or bitter about something. Aaron Rogers is in the news and then I become anti-Pat McAfee when I couldn't possibly be more supportive of Pat McAfee, Shannon Sharp, everyone who pets on themselves and gets to use this system, like I want to support what those people are doing,

I want those people to win. Shannon Sharp's podcast is a monster. He just had on Cat Williams. I have never heard, I mean, Cat Williams does some of that, but that interview that he did with cat Williams has now set the internet on fire because you never see a great comedian take out everyone else

in his industry name by name and that comedian has the credentials, even though he's a little bit crazy. He's got all of the credentials where you say, that man is telling the truth, but he's also such a great storyteller that he can always be lying. And he took out Steve Harvey,

and he took out Cendrick the entertainer, and he took out a thousand guys in this interview with Shannon Sharp, Shannon Sharp, who can keep up with anybody. Shannon Sharp couldn't check him on all the things he was claiming because he took out Kevin Hart. He called him a Hollywood plant as if he's the old and but while also saying Bernie Mac was the greatest to ever do

it. So he's got the comedy credentials to take out everybody and he did. It was an electric interview, Dan. I was watching the entire thing and I was like, my one question is, yes, Kat is a little eccentric. He says sometimes things that are a little out there. How many times you need to say something that's a little out there to be discredited on all the things you say, because he took out Harvey Weinstein, he took out Diddy, he took out Steve Harvey, he took out Kevin Hart, he took out, you name it, he's taken them out. So what does he have to say to be discredited on all that stuff? I think that's as good an interview as you will hear this month, just because cat Williams is that entertaining. And cat Williams will say things that you just don't hear.

He is. What do you have on South Beach sessions? Alex Rodriguez. Oh, that's a big one. That's a good. Hey, Rod, do you know the interview? The Alex Rodriguez. Yes, I baseball player old Kugler old Kuggler when he left here.

That was a real taunt from you. He's gone. Well, I haven't seen him this week. He's gone for like two weeks or I don't know where OOO on the calendar. I don't know where he is. Out of office. Yes, he said we cracked the machine. He said that that A-Rod was cracked in the South Beach session that we did with him. Is that tomorrow? You're asking me? I was the guy that just asked you what's coming up. Well, but genuine question.

But yeah, it was a genuine answer. And I didn't realize until after I'd answered it that you were taunting me with Shannon Sharp got a better guess. Well, no, you said right before that, that's the best interview you'll hear all month. Yeah, and I'm like, don't sell yourself short big dog. Yeah, that's Timber Wolves owner, Alex Rodriguez. And you can do this. Tomorrow it is Timber Wolves owner, Alex Rodriguez.

I don't know how to better be coogs, you better get out, you better delete that OOO. It cracked, cracked open Alex Rodriguez, I give him a gift. I don't want to spoil it Oh, yes, you do Do you know what this is? Do you know what this gift is? I gave in a public moment because I've been critical of a rod over the years I have beaten him up. No spoiler alert Now that's gonna make news We were reading about the solid beyond spoilers going well beyond when I was trying to accomplish with foot girl

And you don't even see it because it's below the death. Yeah, little little below. That's better than cat Williams, Dana low deck There was a gift in tomorrow What a tease it is a fact like it's like wedding crashes. That is correct advertising. Tune in tomorrow. I will. The dinner feels so good. I will give Alex Rodriguez a gift under the desk. Yes.

You can make that as central as you'd like. You may go viral for this gift that you give under the desk. I believe I will. Do any of you know, is there a video yet that anyone is seeing? I saw it as it was happening. I was on a zoom meeting and I burst out laughing because, you know, it's so graphic what's happening under that table.

I saw it as well. And anytime you see a gift under a desk, it's something. Yeah, that's tomorrow on South Beach sessions. I'm glad you asked, but hopefully it won't be as good as the cat Williams interview though. That's going to be a pretty big moment. Who do you take out, Dan? Yeah. Who's a plant for sure? Kevin Hart, Dan.

He put out some plan. He put out an outline that was incredible. Another South Beach sessions guest. I love Kevin Hart. Great partner of ours. I would love to do five hours with cat Williams. Unfortunately, that Shannon sharps interview on the volume. We had a chance to hire Shannon Sharpe a long time ago.

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Go ahead, do you want to do that for the people? You're Gary Stevens impersonation. You want to give people some of that 30 years in the making. Who gots? What? Who needs me? Oh, that? What?

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Tony, what do you have to up? Coked up a little sum for Thursday Thunder? We are staying in one game today, ladies and gentlemen. The Denver Nuggets versus the aforementioned Golden State Warriors. I like the Nuggets minus three tonight. I also like over on Chris Paul assist at seven and a half. And I'm also slotting in Nikola Yokic, over 25 and a half points., over 25 and a half points.

So over 25 and a half points, over seven and a half assists for Chris Paul, Denver Nuggets minus three gives you a nice plus four, seven D, little parleski. Jessica, why are you making those faces? I didn't think he had to go parleski there either. I don't know why he made it. Well, we're achieving Tony.

I call him a parleski. That sounds pretty good. How so? How is he overachieved? Three picks. Yes. But yes, very serious picks and... Oh, I thought you were gonna be a real brood. I thought my bad.

Totally different game. Yeah, it's a totally different game. My bad. I can't believe we're gonna get to meet a guy who's here in a second. But Mike Ryan, I've got to call you out on something because it is a bit pathetic and it's nice to see the general eagerness of Jeremy Tashay around.

Hey, the heat, win in Los Angeles. Lakers are pretty important to him. Okay, you can make the regular seasons irrelevant, but let's go heat chance and then Shams is reporting deepening disconnect and hardened heat fan, Mike Ryan, who seems so much that happening against LeBron, the reporting of the deepening disconnect. And you being like, yeah, who cares when they're 35 games in and they're making the LeBron thing shake and crumble? You're a bit hard and cynical and got too much sports in your life.

If you can't feel that a little bit based on what it is that you and LeBron had for a relationship. Correct. On the air off the air. I'm training machine and like a son of a gun. Meena Kimes is with us now. It is nice to see you, Meena. We are headed into the biggest dolphin game since I don't know when.

And I'm going to say it's bigger than the one they just played against the Ravens because I think Buffalo is better than Miami. And this is a super interesting game. Are you in the camp that believes that Miami has been exposed here and the injuries are going to be a problem in Miami would have very little reason for confidence against this bill's team this week? First, I'd like to say I love your polo shirt today. Van haven't seen that one before. I am nervous if I'm Miami and I'm mostly nervous because of the defense. Buffalo fans will give them no sympathy for the injuries. Obviously, they had their fair share

of injuries, but I think the timing of them is such what's such a problem. Those injuries came earlier in the season and you've seen that Bill's defense make adjustments, young players stepping up. They've evolved their scheme. Whereas Miami and I think this was a real big problem against Baltimore where you saw so many miscommunications on the back end. Marjacks it was amazing, but guys were open. There were busted coverages all over the place. They got them with the motion plate that they use. That's a problem at this point in the season. The fact that you are down, you're Xavier Howard, obviously Bradley Chubb is horrible.

Jaylen Phillips is already injured. It's a really bad time to lose your most important players and then to lose them right before this game. I'll be very curious to see how Vic Fangio approaches that challenge because it is not going to be easy for him, especially with some of the deficiencies in personnel in the secondary. Well, what do you make as someone who digs deep on where it is the advantages are found? What do you do with Fangios never had any answers for Josh Allen?

Like if you're building your whole division on toppling the bills, statistically, fancio, no matter who his defense is, can never do anything against Josh Allen. So why would that change? Well, earlier in the season, when these teams play, they didn't have Jaylen Ramsey. It should be noted. Philips was still coming off of the injury, but the bill's offense was also really different. I don't know if you remember this, but Stefan Diggs went absolutely nuclear in that game. And he hasn't really been a factor for a few weeks now. This bill's offense under Joe Brady has been more

about like ball control, throwing to the tight ends. So I think for Fangeo, it's a different challenge from what it was earlier in the season. I do think having Ramsey and helps a lot. I think on that side of the ball, you're hope, frankly, and this is something that I think Fangio will probably orient his game to a plan towards is that you get yellow, Josh Allen. I were coming off of the game, by the way, where Josh Allen did not play well against New England.

He has been a little bit up and down this season. There are games where he just feels compelled to go nuclear and put on the cape and make throws with three guys covering one guy down field. And the truth then is the best way to get him to do that has nothing to do with thick fangio. It's the offense. The offense has to put up points pretty much every drive to force Josh Allen into that mindset where he feels like he has to be superhero Josh to keep up with them. Can you explain to me, please, just in ways that I can understand because the position is changing so much, the schemes and systems around the positions are changing so much

that Cam Newton tells me that so and so and so and so and so and so and so, so game managers. No one would ever accuse Josh Allen of that because he plays the style of football that Cam Newton tells me that so and so and so and so and so and so and so and so and so game managers. No one would ever accuse Josh Allen of that because he plays the style of football that we think is reckless and fun and can be great. And he can have five turnovers explained to me what happened against the Patriots where the Patriots almost won that game, even though they had like four first half turnovers because Josh Allen was so terrible. What did Bella check do to Josh Allen that's repeatable?

No. Nothing. He was just off. And that kind of goes back to what I was saying. I feel like with Josh Allen, it's almost less about what the defense does and more about what version of him you get. The risk reward balance is always the thing with him. And the reason we accept some of the riskier plays is because the reward is so great.

If you happen to get one of those games where the risk, it's tilted too far towards risk and not enough towards reward because he was just off throwing the ball in that game. It wasn't like Bill's private Patriot defense was throwing anything crazy at him. They do have a very good run defense better than Miami's, I would say, but it really came down to just the quarterback having an off day and then putting too much pressure on himself. And I want to just if you're a Miami fan, you're listening to this and you're saying, well, she makes it. She's making it sound like because of her defense, we don't have a chance.

I don't believe that. I really think if your offense can bounce back, and we have seen this Miami offense, by the way, bounce back after bad performances pretty frequently over the last two years. If they can bounce back and put pressure on Alan to keep up, that is how I think you start forcing him into making some of those decisions. Explain something else to me. Why were you one of the very few people I heard saying weeks ago when a certain hyperventilation had taken over the 49ers and all they can do offensively that you were telling us,

hey, Ravens really match up well with them. It felt like that, Mike Floreo is over here saying Ravens are going to get the shit kicked out of them. Everybody thought that the six, I'm sorry, the 49ers are going to out physical out tough you, but nobody does that to the Ravens. What were you seeing in the matchups that you were telling us before anybody else was, hey, the Ravens are, that they can be seen as better than the 49ers? I do want to start with saying I did pick the night of Sui that came. So I'm not trying

to take a huge victory lap. I did not think that the Ravens would get the bleep kicked out of them. However, because the Ravens defense is very well built to play both of these Shanahan type offenses in Miami and Terranese. I mean, that back-to-back performance from that defense against those two offenses who've been so domino over the course of the season is incredibly impressive. And there are two things I think that really matter. One is that they have elite linebacking, which is kind of rare in the NFL right now.

It's been interesting as I, well, frankly, I think Miami has suffered from this a little bit. You look at a team like Philadelphia that didn't chose not to invest in the linebacker position because for years Dan, we thought in addition to the valuing running backs on offense, off-ball linebacker was not as important. I would argue that right now off-ball linebacker is more important than it's ever been because these offices, these shanahan offices are basically built to mess with linebackers by always making you wrong, whether it's through the option stuff, the RPO stuff, all the motions and whatnot. So the Ravens come in with next to San Francisco, the best off ball, the best linebacker duo in the NFL.

Rokuant Smith has been unbelievable this year and his ability to cover pressure basically take out the middle of the field, which is so important against both Miami and San Francisco is paramount to beating both those teams. And then the other thing is their defensive coordinator, Mike McDonald, is brilliant. And in my view, should be the number one head coaching hire candidate, the cycle. It's so interesting to me, though, because I feel like when they talk about seriani, and I couldn't believe I'm seeing Adam Shafters say he's safe. He's safe. Seriani's not going to be fired when I'm watching a team that's been pretty great.

And now people are questioning the eagles. And I thought it's not about toughness. It's not about anything else other than their linebackers can't cover anybody. Their linebackers are terrible. And it's not just a lot. Well, I didn't know that Adam said that Ciriani is safe, but that's funny. I the way you just did that, it's like when there's a natural disaster on Facebook and you can tag that you're, I'm picturing Adam Schefter, like, what going around the NFL and tagging

coaches safe. Or they use the Reaper, right? Because they'll let you know if your job is in jeopardy. It's good for Nick Cereani, he is not having a good season. I would say he bears a lot of responsibility. And it's taken a second, I think, to get to that point for some of the issues that they pad on both sides of the ball. I actually think offensively coaching has been more of the problem.

Whereas defensively, it's a personnel thing. Lineback, you came into the season knowing linebacker was weakness, but the thought was, well, they still have this elite front and they have these two good cover corners. They'll be fine, but the front hasn't been elite. The corners have either been injured or not playing well. And suddenly you look this defense and it's like, what do you do well? And the answer is not really anything right now. We've seen progressively as the season's gone on that defenses have caught on to what

the Eagles have done over the last few years. And I guess it culminates a build sick reshender with someone that was formerly on their staff just totally taking them apart. And I know AJ Brown held the players responsible somewhat, but it appears from watching the the Eagles these last few weeks is they're out of moves on offense. Would you agree with that? They're when you compare them to some of the offenses, the ones we were talking about San Francisco and Miami, or I would say Baltimore, frankly, when you watch that offense and some of the things that Todd Munkin is doing creatively, the Eagles offense feels relatively simplistic. It was that way last year too.

It is premised around the idea that they have a numbers advantage, which Jalen Hertz is a runner, which has not been the advantage it was last year this year, and then talent. We've got a better wide receiver doer than you. Why do we need to do all kinds of crazy stuff to get them open and the motions and all that stuff? Well, the problem is when, as you said, defenses are keyed in on that. And when you lose that number's advantage and when guys aren't executing at a super high level, and you don't have a schematic advantage, suddenly you're just not dominant anymore.

They're not a bad offense, but they're no longer great because the coaching isn't putting them in the same position you see with some of the really, really good offenses around the NFL right now. I'm going to break with you real quick, but just out of curiosity, if we gave you endless questions about football because we were forever fascinated. Do you think you could answer them endlessly, like that you would enjoy informing our audience because you care about this stuff so ridiculously? Like, if you were asking me about like, bucks, panthers and jacks, tightings and like, you really want to get gross. I was getting gross. Ask me the, the most unpleasant football

question you can come up with after the break. All right. Let's do this and let's speed it up because I do believe that Mina would be forever titillated by being able to answer your endless football questions. Let's do this interactively next. Don Lebertard. Mike Marty Shot and Heimer passed away. Still gots. Why do you sound so happy?

I just do say that. I was very excited. I was wrong. I was wrong. I was not excited. I was very excited. I was wrong. I was wrong, Tony. I was not excited. I was not excited. What the fuck is he really pointing out

that a Browns legend has to hold on? That was unbelievable. I was just trying to hide him and I'm gonna die. Hold on, hold on. And maybe the greatest coach to never win a Super Bowl. Okay, wait a minute. Let's just everybody, let's settle down.

Shut it all, I don't care. This is the Don Lebatars show with Estugats. I'm now officially a bit disgusted by Mina because she wants to talk about Carolina Panthers football and I just, I can't do it. It's too dirty for me. I've got to stay with the high end questions like, who's better, the dolphins or the lions, the dolphins or the lions?

Because I think they're kind of the same. They're mirrors of each other in different conferences. Who's better, lions or dolphins? Ooh, the dolphins are the better team, but the injuries on defense make me a little bit hesitant to pick them right now. I'm still going to go Dolphins, so I actually really, I still believe that offense can put up points on anyone. Also, Bucks Panthers isn't even close to being the grossest thing this week.

Like that game actually matters. The Bucks need to win. There are, yeah, have you looked at lists of quarterbacks who are starting, we're getting one-star-nulled. I cannot wait for Wendt's start are starting, we're getting one startled. I cannot wait for what starts. Oh, you're not that dirty. Give it to me. Give me one startled. I'm not going to get that dirty yet. I want to ask you if at the age of 35 is Travis Kelsey

at the end of this. I don't think so. I think obviously he's not quite what he was last year, although they've been kind of limiting his snaps until recently, but I still think he, when you still watch him, he still gets open. He's still bodies, guys. He just has a little, you know, a few more drops, a little bit of a lost, a little bit less juice in his step. Can you give us a Jets Patriots preview, perhaps?

No, no, come on. Come on. Straight to the X-ray. Aggressive. Aggressive. Can we go? Come on. Go. I Straight to the X-ray. Are we ready? Are we ready? Aggressive. Can we go? Come on. Go. I got a good one here. How about a preview of Eastern stick versus blame, Gabbard? So Eastern stick, after a very, very disastrous start, I thought it looked a little bit better

against the Buffalo Bills, his mobility. It's a factor that can be hard to project. Obviously, the chargers aren't really playing anyone right now, but, you know, I, I would say like don't, the fact that he has been playing more football than Gavart who obviously has not been playing for this and had to. They're gross. You're disgusting. I can't believe you actually. There's some of these.

You discussed me. You, you, you, that you want to now go Gavart on us when I refuse to believe that I believe I will not believe that Gavart gathered starting an NFL football game this weekend. Come on. Is he the worst quarterback? Who's I don't think so? Come on. I was one game.

You're disgusting. CJ Bethard played nice. CJ Bethard protected the football. You know, I mean, you played massive role. They needed to win that game. CJ Bethard, either they ran the ball well with Travis E. T. N., which obviously helped a great deal. But I thought Bethard, like he also showed a little something running the ball.

I have a confession about him, which is I think he's tougher than he is purely because his name is beat hard, which I also realize is other connotations. Come on on tomorrow with Alex Rodriguez on South Beach sessions. That's absent context for me. Uh, is Mike Vrable going to be coaching his last game in Tennessee? It's been a weird, but it's been a weird week in terms of leveraging the media. I think rain Carthon is incentivized to kind of play out. No, we love Mike.

We love Mike. Mike had a lot of success over there prior to rain Carthon. That's always a dicey scenario. It's best. It's in the best interest of the Tennessee Titans to Rand Carthon. And that's always a dicey scenario. It's best, it's in the best interest of the Tennessee Titans for Rand Carthon to make it seem like no trouble in paradise whatsoever, because maybe he kind of wants the Patriots to trade for him. He's not the, oh gosh, he's not the problem in Tennessee. That team was bad coming into this year. I thought there would be the worst in the division and the offensive lot. There are rebuilding team that didn't really go full rebuild because

they kept Tannen Hill around and then obviously they started to love us, but the labels not the problem in Tennessee. By the way, it's being absurd. The jacks are playing in the jacks, have to win this game. I'll probably pick the jacks, but do not underestimate Mike Rebels ability to drag teams into the mud. He will do some of the grossest stuff in that get we're a fake ponds, weird rules, exploitation that we don't even know about. I would stay so far away. I think Jen is one last ride with Tanael and Reibel as a super dog ruining everything.

The Titans are actually pretty well positioned though. They have the most cap room out of anybody next year. Like they did a good job of digging themselves out of a bed situation. This was the rebuilding year, yeah. You're dirty though, because Jeremy was whispering in my ear in a way that made me uncomfortable the names of quarterbacks who are playing this week. Jeff Triskles going against Browning. That's a football game that's being played this weekend.

Like we got corrected because I think the Texans, Texans the year that TJ Yades started a playoff game had four quarterbacks. So prior to this year, they were the first team to have four quarterbacks in here and make the playoffs, but not nearly as strong as this Browns team. The Browns have won up them and decided, okay, we're going to start a fifth just to make sure we have that record. You're coming just to risk. Jeff Driscoll, I believe briefly tried out to play wide receiver when he was in Cincinnati. Like he was considering a position change because he thought it was career as a quarterback was over.

Oh gosh. It's a Jeff Dress school revenge game, if then, right? Got a factor that into his account. You're gross. He's got legs. He can move. But, you know, Jake Browning, when you look at all these backup quarterback city, a real sentence that has to be said is Jake Browning

is the cream dilecrème of his group. Huh. Come on. We're still waiting on that Jets Patriots preview. No, not too fast. This has been disgusting, by the way. But my question was too gross. Now, well, Stedemont Connell, both quarterbacks who I think are probably near the top if we're ranking all of the gross quarterbacks. I would probably, Oconnell's been playing longer. And I think that I kind of like what this Raiders defense has been doing lately. They've been sneakily pretty good under Patrick Graham a lot better than you would expect.

Don't love Max Crosby versus that offensive line. So I'll go, I'll go Vegas and Oconnell. I do enjoy this part though. Antonio Pierce is going to be the first genius in that sport that descends from interning for Howard Stern. Antonio Pierce is going to get that job correct based on the fact. Yeah, he interned for the Howard Stern show. And you didn't know that. Yes. Antonio Pierce did that. And now he kind of Jeff Saturdays his way into a job a little bit, right? He was the guy who was available near, but no, he's got coaching experience. He's not Jeff Saturday, but Antonio Pierce is going to end up getting a prime job because

they won six games at the end of the season. I think you'll also get a prime job because, and this is something we probably don't talk about enough when we talk about organizations and decisions they made. The Raiders don't have a ton of, and I don't mean this to diminish Antonio Pierce, just try to understand what they might do, especially after the contracts that they gave out most recently to Josh McDaniels before that grewton. They don't have a lot to spend on head coach. Should I suspect they might see the opportunity to just stay in house, ride with the guy who

has been doing good job this year and stick with him, especially after they let Bessachia go. Not that that would have been the goal. Is that a problem for any other team, Meena, that the finances of a coach, that's a problem for a lot of organizations in that sport? Yeah, yeah. Yes, it is. And I said, we don't talk about it enough. It does affect decision making, not just with coaching hires, but with players.

You have to look at how much cash owners have on hand. It's why the Bengals changed the name of Thursday stadium because they literally needed the money to pay Joe Burrow. And we'll see who else. See, Jim, our chase will be next. But a thing about NFL owners, right? Like a lot of them are like, you know, the third generation of owning like a pencil factory. It's not like tech where it's like Mark Cuban and there's a lot of, I'm not calling them

rope, rope, but they're not exactly, you know, this sort of wealth that we see sometimes in other leagues. Meena, there's a quarterback that is six and two in his last eight with his team in the playoffs right now fighting for a division and we are not talking about him. Gardner, Menshu. Why are we not talking about Gardner Menshu in the Colts? Because he's not the reason why they win games. I would say that would be. I would do that. I think the change, this is interesting because it's kind of coached to the year, Bull because Shane Steichen at Domingo Rines is probably deservedly favorite.

Shane Steichen has done a fantastic job Rines is probably deservedly favorite. Shane Steak and has done a fantastic job with this Colts team. Despite the fact that Gardner Menshure was given him pretty limited quarterback play, tries to turn over the football a lot. He is not playing at a very high level. I wouldn't even, like when we go through that list of backups, I probably wouldn't put him at the top. I acknowledge you've probably addressed this on your podcast.

I mean, a kind of show featuring Lenny and all the other wonderful things that you do for ESPN. But bad defenses are giving the Kansas City chiefs problems. It's not just the good, and they're going to run into plenty of good ones in the playoffs or maybe just. Do God says he wants to see the chiefs in the play? I don't disagree. And I think playing Blaine Gabbert, even though you know that Patrick Mahomes isn't necessarily the issue there, but I think this offense just needs more reps somehow. That it doesn't look like they got a snowball chance, even though they have Travis Kelsey

and Patrick Mahomes. What is the issue with this offense? Is that the clip where Sue Gatz where I just saw it on my socials where is he's like incredibly close to the camera for some reason? What was the thinking? A viral take. We wanted to have a viral take. It worked. It worked. Dan produced it. You noticed.

Should I try to do that? I don't know if I want to be. Yes. Let's zoom into her screen. Yes. Can we just maximize that? Let's see how we do that. We've got two minutes left in the segment and we've got a hit.

We can't distort the image. She has to do it because she's not going to be able to do it. Okay, but let's know what you mean. Don't underestimate her. She's not an old person. I can't do that. Can you zoom in? You can just bring your face to the camera.

All right, but you've got to do a take of what you really close to the camera. All right, let's do this. You've got this is what we need from you, me now. You've got about 90 seconds left. They'll give you a countdown. But we are trying to get a viral take from you

that goes as close to your mouth as it can But you have to say something that's at least a little polarizing or meant to go viral So you have 90 seconds right now Wait, I have to okay. I have my close enough for should I get closer? Well, how should we do this closer? Just we've got 80 seconds left even closer I was talking about like salt bomb bathtub close. This was your idea. I mean all right. We have 70 seconds left and it's okay. I'm giving you time to think about this and we will work on our end to get as close to your mouth as we can. Okay. Uh, here's my. Oh, I don't like

my teeth. I just had I just chipped both of them by the way because I grind them so much but I was All right, okay, okay, 50 seconds. Okay Here is my potentially viral take. I think the Kansas City Chiefs will still play in the AOC Championship I know that how oh it's good right? I look so bad in this video. I can't believe I'm letting this explain with 20 seconds left. I think outside of the Baltimore Ravens, when you look around the division, I think or the conference rather, I think all the AFC teams are pretty flawed, talked about Miami's defense. We'll see what happens with Buffalo, the Jags are a mess, but they'll probably win. The Browns are scary, but I think that they'll get knocked out by the Ravens, depending on

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