The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 2: Minute Kimes Show pt. 2

Episode Date: December 7, 2023

Mina Kimes is back and might be delivering her analysis in song, with speed, or...normally. She takes us through all the fun topics of the NFL including Aaron Rodgers, Zach Wilson, Jake Browning, the Ravens, and Dan's outfit. Plus, the Cesta Cyclones are ready for the primetime as they have a huge matchup coming up, Lucy is ready for Army-Navy, and the Victor Wembanyama-Jaime Jaquez Jr. debate takes shape. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

You're listening to Giraffe King's Network. This is the Don't LaboTar Show with this two-gots podcast. Mina Kimes has told us she wants to sing her takes today. I cannot wait until we get to hear some of what she's got to say. Meena, I just had a conversation about Zach Wilson and it got me to thinking about the way the Packers handled Jordan Love and the way the Jets are handling Zach Wilson. We used to do it the way the Packers have always done it. Aaron, you sit behind Brett Farve.

Jordan Love, you sit behind Aaron Rodgers. That was all the quarterbacks. CJ Stroud didn't change how quickly people became good at quarterback. And then the last few years, we wrecked these quarterbacks faster and earlier because of the amount of pressure and because the salaries have gone down and they're more disposable than they've been. I'm rambling. It's a habit. Jordan Love and the way they've handled him. I don't know how good he is, but they've given him a better chance to succeed

than the Jets have, Zach Wilson. Yes or no? I'm going to push back, well, yes, but I think almost every quarterback in the NFL is in a better situation than Zach Wilson, rice young, not a standing. But I do want to push back on your, take a little bit about how we used to sit quarterbacks

and then nurture them and these gentle, loving environments. That feels a little bit like survivorship bias. Like we're thinking about Rogers, but for every Rogers, there were both manning so you remember how to go through, how to take their lumps early in their career. And then they got better. Like yes, the Jordan Love situation is ideal in some ways.

Patrick Mahomes situation is ideal. Both of those quarterbacks were behind other quarterbacks who were playing very good football. Alex Smith was excellent at the end of his career in Kansas City. But there's plenty of examples throughout history of quarterbacks who were thrown into the fire and succeeded and I think you've seen those it's not just CJ Stroud There's been some examples like that in recent years too. How would you articulate to people? How difficult a position that is to play in ways? How do you reach across the bridge to explain to the sports fan? You don't understand how much information is being processed there?

I think the very it there's a very simple way to illustrate it, which is you make people watch football from the end zone point of view. I remember when they first, I can't remember, it was a few years ago, when they did Skycam and they started, they broadcasted a few games entirely from, that I remember one was Marcus Marioid on the Titans,

and just watching him over the course of the game from that vantage point. First of all, it would make offensive lineman famous because you see who is good and they should be advocating for that, but you also see just how unbelievably difficult quarterback play is you have usually less than two and at three seconds. You have the biggest fastest people in the world

coming straight at you. You have guys behind them who are changing the picture for you and you have to execute. And I think when you see it from that point of view, you understand how utterly impossible it is. So many things have to go right for a quarterback to complete a pass. And you can see all of the forces contriving to make sure they don't. You were mentioning how Green Bay is a better situation for a young quarterback than New York. And what makes you so certain of that? Because New York is a pretty good situation too.

They've got a great, young wide receiver. They've got a good defense. You don't have to put up a lot of points. Is it as simple as the offensive line and the offensive for the interview? We said they were a quarterback away. It didn't have to be Aaron Rogers. We watched that team last year and said it was a quarterback away. There are several quarterbacks playing right now that are also young that can go in there.

And if you just take what they've done on other teams and I know that this is not a fair comparison and you plug that into New York at all, the sudden becomes a good situation. No? I think you hit on why it's uniquely challenging for a young quarterback. And I want to be clear, this is not Zach Wilson. Apologism. I don't think he should be a starting NFL quarterback unlike, you know, some of my colleagues. Um,

you mentioned the difference between those teams is largely the offensive line, which is very different. I mean, in Green Bay, you have probably one of the five best offensive lines of football. They've had some injuries there. They've been healthy lately. I think it's no coincidence. That's a big part of why Jordan love has been comfortable. Um, and then then New then your jets have one of the worst offensive lines in football. I think when you have a quarterback like Aaron Rogers that mitigates that to some degree because he gets the ball out so quickly, you know, you could say, well, it also endangers

him. But when you're just talking about, you know, efficiency in quarterback play, if you have a better and it tends to make bad offensive lines look better. But when you have a young quarterback, it's so important. And I do think if you switched places, like I don't think Jordan Love would be having the season he's having. The other thing you mentioned by the way, play color, another thing where I think it's so important for young quarterback, whereas Aaron Rogers doesn't, it's okay that they actually want to be as offensive like all their, I think, in a way that it's clearly not okay for insert random judge quarterback. I mean, I'm curious when you were doing long form magazine features, Aaron Rodgers wanted to be seen by America differently. He came and spent time with you at your apartment and you wrote a very good profile on the psychology

of Aaron Rodgers. Now, after you've seen the last few years of everything that's happened there, I'm genuinely curious what you make and how you experience the last few years of Aaron Rodgers from the person who walked into your living room wanting to have a different relationship with America to the person who over the last few years has done a lot of stuff that we couldn't have seen coming. I swear, I'll answer your question, but this is when you put Dan up, that was my first time seeing him on the big screen. Did you get lost on the way to Home Depot today, Dan? Like what's going on with the plastic?

It is, it's me, but you look like you're about to ask me to like check the oil on my car. Yeah, no, no, no, no. Like come over and like look around and point things in my house that need to be fixed. Can you say hi, I'm Bob Vila. Could do it. Happy. I love you all in that shirt. Has he ever worn that on set before?

I've never seen you wear it. Ha, ha, ha, ha. He's bundled up today. It's cold out. He's bundled up today. It's cold out. He's by amy. It was 63 degrees this morning. I have never worn this shirt. This was just bought for me recently by my wife.

And I haven't any reason to wear this. This is like when Kirk Hussin's wife dresses him up. And he's like, I don't know. My wife fixed these out for me. And it's like a little short sleeve shirt. And everyone's like, you look so cute. Everyone today has told me that I look better than I normally do. I fixed these out for me and it's like a little short sleeve shirt and everyone's like you look so cute everyone today Has told me that I look better than I normally do I've taken I've taken it today as lashing

I look like some thought was put into it You look your age age appropriate age appropriate a Job appropriate a appropriate the You know like there's been a lot of serious takes where Dan's wearing costume, which is of course the dynamic we all enjoy.

But Dan giving like, Siri asking me serious football questions dressed like someone your age who might actually be doing sports radio is equally disconcerting. I'd argue. I really hate when Dan makes serious points while wearing a ridiculous costume. It's absurd of him. Jake Browning looked really good on Monday night football. That's a, that's a best quarterback has looked

for Cincinnati this season. And I know Joe Burrows' health has a lot to do with it. I started getting swept up in all the things that maybe flashed occasionally in college for him. He looks good. Can he be good? He looks good. Yeah. swept up and all the things that maybe flashed occasionally in college for him. He looks good. Can he be good? Yeah.

I was I'm a Huskies fan. I did not think that he would look that good. Obviously, someone who very much enjoys college career didn't think he was an NFL prospect, totally blew the doors off of my expectations. But I will also say, I was really impressed by the coaching in that game. And I have to think that had to feel good for his act Taylor and Brian Callahan because nobody ever gives them credit because we just watched that offense. And it is an offense that is not heavily skimmed up for Joe burrow because of what he is good at what

he likes, which to sit back in the gun point, be the conductor, whereas with Browning, they were booting him. it was very RPO head, like that was a very schemed up and well executed offense. It was kind of like, hey, like we're good at coaching too, guys. We just, you know, you just don't, we have a really great elite quarterback so you don't see it and we never get credit for it. Oh, but they were 428 and 1 without burrow,

like that, before that game, why would they get credit for it? They lost 28 of the 33 games they played. Yeah, awesome. Yeah, I don't disagree. I just think there's like a thing for coaches. I wonder if Bell Check felt this way like during like the castle year or whatever.

When you have a really really good quarterback and Nobody really talks about you ever and you're right. They they weren't good before Joe burrow But I thought I think like they also deserve like they changed the offense with him They showed that they could change it on the fly These are the moments in which we start thinking about coaches and what they actually contribute of course It helps when you have Jamar chase who who literally cut everything in that game and was unbelievable. I've got a question for each of you. Mina, how much better are the Niners than the Eagles? Because that played itself out pretty horrifically for Philadelphia and for Dan, which is the

best IPA to pair with a brisket? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha is that their defense, which has had holes all year, has holes that make them uniquely vulnerable to losing to the San Francisco 49ers linebacker. Yeah, obviously they were injured, they went out and signed check Leonard, but that already was not a strength on this team. It is actually something that I think they devalue, like the Eagles are a team where they're not gonna spend a lot of money and very, very high draft picks

on linebacker and running back because they're run going to spend a lot of money and very very high draft picks online Backer and running back because they're run the way nerds love football teams to be run the problem is Against the San Francisco 49ers in particular. I think you need a very good run game and elite linebackers The Baltimore Ravens have those and that game I'm very excited about the Philadelphia Eagles. I think Just by design have a hard time with them, and I think that'll still be the case with if they meet again. Haze. Good answer.

That's what you want to go with. You didn't answer my Aaron Rodgers question. Yes. I think what's been revealed to me is when you, a couple things, one, people do change, especially I think we've seen people who are on the internet, you know, a lot of, I mean, it can become very, I want to speculate about Rogers, but I think when you talk, when you hear him talk and the things he's talk about, he's obviously someone who is very online. In a way, that I think is very unique to our time right now in the world. But I also think another thing, and this is kind of your question

was like, well, are you surprised by the person you met? Well, you know, it's someone I spent less than 24 hours with. And I think that something as a writer, you sort of have to come to terms with, which is you try to do these magazine stories, you get to know someone as a writer, you sort of have to come to terms with, which is you try to do these magazine stories, you get to know someone, but ultimately, you don't really know them. And that's something that's been proven time and time again when I look back at guys, not just Rogers that I profiled over the years. But you're reporting around them too. You're not just spending time with them and getting

to know them. We're going to come back with me in a kind of, I'm going to get her to speak very much faster. The fastest minute and 45 seconds in sports. In song. Don Lebertard. And finally, fruit loops are all the same flavor, just different colors. I refuse to believe that. Is that right?

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Back with Mina Kimes, host of the Mina Kimes show featuring Lenny. Lenny is her dog. Mina, I hope to see you on Monday at our all ages event in Dolphin Mall, Vivo Miami, the Miller Light Sage. It's brought to you by Miller Light and Dollar Shape Club. All ages, we're going to be watching Titans and Dolphins. Ooh, that sounds fun. It's a big holiday party with a Levitard show.

Come on out. Dan, take it away. Meena, you look radiant. You, I don't know, radiant is the word. Are you feeling radiant? Because I don't imagine that this stage of the baby having is a radiant time. Well, I think the reason I might look radiant is literally there is a light coming right

in through my window for the podcast audience just trying to pay the picture. I'm still trying to adjust settings in the mornings. Dude, these shows with you guys and I'm on first take and it's very bright here because it is 9.15 am. So there is literally a beam of light coming straight at me. It is not something I would attribute to a post baby glow or anything like that. But yeah, it's it's been very fun being back at work and having an outlet to like, you know, give my opinions and whatnot. It is a little bit weird because, you know,

you spend two months of your life spending 24 hours a day, a little bit less than 24 hours a day with a human and when you're away from them a little bit, it's a little bit strange, especially because that it is an unusually physical, oh my God, this is gonna really start the clock while I'm talking about the physical maternal bond. Okay, let's do this. I disagree with his executive ruling there. I was enjoying that conversation, but Mike Ryan wants his football information. So

tell me what's going on with the chiefs. Kansas City chiefs. We talk a lot obviously about the defense and the White receivers dropping passes. This is a big narrative. They're dependent entirely on perhaps Kelsey, maybe Rishi Rice. That is a serious problem. But another thing that I think is flying a little bit on the radar is over the last few weeks the defense which started the season so elite. Performance is that client a little bit. They got shredded by play action by the Green Bay Packers. It defensive line is not getting quite the same push they were earlier in the year. So they seem to be suffering. Splash.

Do you find it weird that Lamar Jackson and Tour are still healthy, but they're the only quarterbacks who are still healthy? That's a great point, and I really hope it's something that we bring up in the future. When we talk about narratives and quarterbacks and being injury prone and dual threats and all of that, because there was so much Heming and Hanks,

we pay Lamar Jackson, he's injury prone to a tingle, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, can he make it through a season? And we are right now here in the season. I think it really sheds light on the fact that quarterback injuries tend to be really random and we get really mad about the fact There a lot of backups right now starting in the ASE We got changed the rules You don't have to respect the splash you can talk through it a little bit a little bit

No, it's like the bell on pti. She doesn't have to respect the splash if she does not want to splash That's not something that's a thing if I can't hit the quarterback in the head and if I can't hit him in the legs and if I can't hit him at all, then why is it they're all getting hurt? Well, it's kind of what I was just saying at the last point, which is that it tends to be really random. By the way, it feels like all these quarterbacks are hurt and it's worse than it's ever been,

but when you actually look at the statistics, the percentage of the starts you're getting from quarterbacks to start week one is actually highest. It's been in years. It's just very concentrated in one conference. conference obviously that one will go up as the season goes on but it's not like an unusually injury prone here. Are the Steelers? I'm sorry about that that's my fault.

I'll be the splash that time. Are the Steelers any good? Should I stay in my deck Dan? Again with the Bob Villas back. Again with the Bob Villas, Black. Again with the Bob Villas stuff. I don't understand why it is that, I, via, I go in here. Via.

Answer my question. Oh, about the Steelers. Ah, they're fine. They're not like, they're okay. They're, I would say an average football team. I obviously, the, you know, underlying numbers reflect that. There's a point difference. Nine and eight, baby.

This is flash. Can you? I got there playing tonight. Yeah, give us a preview. What was that? Do you think the ZG all you will have fewer than 60 rushing yards? I was looking at the, I know there were,

I'm kind of mean when around because when they advertise these games, they put up the two quarterbacks usually And I think they had Bella check out for the Patriots which Who knows if he'll even be you know, they're on with me in the Patriots next year But I saw they made a new one with Bailey Zappi and Mitch Trubisky and the looks on both their faces in the photoshop in the picture is They're both like looking at the camera like you really gonna watch this you really gonna watch us What are we to do with how dreadful Bella check's team looks? Uh, so this is going to, I feel like this is simmering right now,

but it's going to obviously heat up in the end of the season when the Patriots have to make a decision and they're headed into the draft with potentially the number two picked. Is this the guy you want shepherding the future of the franchise? I think because of not just his record, but what he's done recently on defense, it makes sense to keep him, but only if you can get someone to intervene on the personnel side because he's been a horrible GMO last few years. Who's better, the Patriots or the Panthers?

The Patriots, the Panthers are really, really bad. Splash. Really hard to watch. Bryce Young the other day, at halftime, 47-yard line, his own 47-yard line, fourth and two, two seconds left. They didn't trust him to throw a Hail Mary just threw it out of bounds. He can reach the end zone from there, correct?

Hi. Bryce Young does not have a super strong arm. I don't think that's even one, like top 10 on the problems with the Carolina Panthers. There's maybe a top 10 but not top five on the process of the Carolina Panthers. But yeah, it's not great. And when you watch him, it is one of those things where it's kind of, we're talking about earlier, but it's just so hard to parse out responsibility because of the circumstances. Quit being around the bush to Did the committee get it right? Uh.

No, because Washington should have been one. That's right. But I don't care. Leave Michigan out. You agree with that? Leave Michigan out. Is that, Dan, is that been your take? I loved Washington all year. They're just fun.

I love because the quarterback throws it down the field. You know those videos, the video of Michigan reacting to Alabama getting in over FSU, where they're just fun. I love because the quarterback throws it down the field. You know those videos, the video of Michigan reacting to Alabama getting in over FSU, where they're like, it's really quite funny. That was the opposite for me at home watching. I was like, well, I was prepared to like fire up. My Washington was robbed, takes when I thought it was FSU, but then when they said Alabama, I was like,

cause you, cause you, two fields are right. Cause you don't, oh, so you don't want you think out you too fear Alabama to expose a team that you think is good, but was a 10 point underdog against the ducks. I would rather play Texas in Alabama as a Washington Husky's fan. Is that a, and that's not Texas slander? It has something for me. It's a little bit about the Nate, the build of the teams.

Um, I think that they can just go toe to toe with them. But Texas beat Alabama. How can you say that once better than the other? I don't know. Is that it Texas? I feel like it that was more like a college football fan watching ESPN who feel slated. That was a fine bomb caller. I didn't sound like I had a lot of South. Did it have a lot of South in it? I didn't want to offend. It did. You know where in that shirt. When you say that San Francisco has a particular set of skills to dismantle the Eagles, who has the particular set of skills that would cause the problems for San Francisco? Dan kind of looks like the guy in the hallmark movie

where his significant other leaves to go to the big city and comes back and maybe he runs like a Christmas tree farm now and they meet again and they fall in love and they and she has to make a decision does she want to go back to her big city life. Those sweet home Alabama. His dad was Santa Claus the entire time. Splash. It's a great answer. I'll ask it again. Who gives the 49ers trouble? I said this but I'll get into wide but the Baltimore Ravens I think because we look at the Niners so hard to find problems with that team. They're so dominant. A couple of things though. They actually do not have a very good run defense this year, particularly runs between the tackles, which is something Baltimore is very good at, best rushing attack

in football. And then defensively, I think Baltimore has the best defense in the NFL. And they also have an elite linebacker duo, which you need linebackers who can cover and tackle to play the San Francisco 49ers because of how multiple they are on offense. You mentioned Mike McDonald as someone that's disguising blitz schemes and coverages, and he's a Raven's defensive coordinator, and he's been someone that's really impressed here.

What's another coach that we should keep an eye out as these jobs start opening up? Ooh, I'll do a weird, a very, I actually think Arizona's offensive coordinator who was with Cleveland, Mike, drew pet sing as done a very good job this year. You really saw that with Josh Jobs. And I actually think when you watch Kyler,

the offense, which is very different from what Cliff King's very ran, which is more of the air raid. This is more of a like we're gonna put to tight ends on the field. We're going to use more run actions. I think he's doing a lot with Difficult circumstances. Meena, what do you think about the NFC South having a playoff committee to decide who gets in?

I don't know who would be the FS because It's really three teams you're deciding between and I Yeah, actually, I don't mind that idea because I don't like I don't want to see any of them particularly in the playoffs so I think it would be better at the end. Splash. I had to choose who would be the most entertaining. I'll just stop respecting the construct of this. You did I'm gonna stop answering. Yeah start answering.

Answering questions like a normal case. Yes. Yes. Yes. Decided we're putting Baker in. It was moving very fast and then it slowed down because you can be jostled into always football, Comato's talk. Like there's no, I gotta imagine, I don't know if your husband cares about any of this stuff, but the amount of football you want to talk care about

can talk about with anybody. You can absolutely get lost in football land for hours at a time. Do you know how I felt there? At a, they're totally agree with you about sort of why I stopped doing this. Splash. There's this thing that babies do called dream feeding.

I didn't know about this. I'm sure everyone in here with babies is aware of it. Oh no. While they're still asleep, they will eat out of bottle, but they'll stay asleep. It's amazing. It's a wonderful thing. So you put the bottle in their mouth. And they just kind of go like this. There's like something instinctively that just clicks and they just start sucking on the bottle. Anyways, that's how I feel sometimes. When I get asked football questions, it's like, I'm like, like there's like a part of my brain that just clicks on

and starts answering it, even if it's. So you're gonna really regret giving the internet that. Which part? The face. The, yeah, you shouldn't stop. Who should really stop? Does Mina, my eyes are closed so I can't see how bad it is. Who should really stop? Does Mina, uh, my eyes are closed,

so I can't see how bad it is. Splash. Does Mina actually dream about football? I always have dreams about football, and I can't even tell you the amount of dreams I've had over the years about the sea hawks losing. I've never had a dream where they won. It's a nightmare.

Yeah, well, I guess they're nightmares. Yeah, I only have nightmares. Is that weird? You only have nightmares and they're all about the sea hawks. No, they're not all about the sea hawks. I have the one where I enrolled in a class and I didn't know. I enrolled and I find out at the end of the semester probably once every two weeks.

I have that one all the time. Those are responsible students right there. Man, I never had that. I have the sports media equivalent of that sometimes to now where I show up and the conversation is it's about it like something I haven't prepared for. I also have that one every two weeks. See you later, Mina. The Mina time show with Lenny.

She'll be here every week. Thank you. Featuring. Featuring. Don Lebertard. I think I'd like to know when I'm going to die because I sort of romanticized the idea of like living like you were dying.

When you're on a countdown clock, imagine all the life experiences. Like I could go skydiving or Rocky Mountain climbing. Still gots. Roy brings up a point though. Like Roy does bring up a point. Like you might be risking paralysis And it's totally correct. Just totally tremble my life. What if God forbid it's

What if it says a week though like or two days or a month? I don't want to know that well Then you just love deeper and speak sweeter and give forgiveness to those that you've been denying Some day I hope you get the chance to live like you were dying Do you have more is that it? No, thank you guys for let me go through that smoothly VCC down libato show with this two gods Battle court playoff position has been locked in Chris Cody We have an opportunity on Monday before I suplay our way into our third ever battle court final. There have only been four of them. You know what that means? Cessice clones on

the precipice of being called the blue blood double header on Monday. Yes, huge. We go up against the hot of devils. We are the two C. They are the three C. We have the two C. Did Vantage. We get to pick one doubles pairing that will not see the the front on on Monday. Now, this isn't exactly open to the public. We are going because we are owners of the team and friends of the owners can come. But depending on what happens on Monday, will either be in a great or sour mood at our Titans Dolphins watch party at the Miller Light stage in Dolphin Mall. This is, I'm not going to mince words, hugely important to Chris and I. We have totally

thrown ourselves into it. I think with every passing season, we get more and more caught up in it. Well, last season, you guys derailed last season. You didn't want to talk about it. You were hurt. You were, you, you fouled it up after great success. You won the championship your first season and then the second season we didn't talk about it because you guys were buried in shame. Second season we lost in heartbreak in the final third season. We don't talk about that fourth season going great. The dynasty fell apart and we talked about it very little but you're telling me you've got the best chance since the first year this Monday. The boys are ready. I think our roster is we've brought back some pieces from when we were at our best. We've paired them with a young Buono who's just I think playing the best high life is life.

And I just think this is, I feel the team vibes in between games. You see all six guys together. You don't see this chemistry. I think that the chemistry is far and above the best in the league. And I think this team's ready. It's our time, Dan. We love this team. We love this sport. What started as a content play and maybe a little bit of a joke has become

something that we've grown really fond of. We love these boys. You own the team. You went Chris run. Come on. You went Chris run the team. Clones. Everyone.

Let's go. Clones come on. Every single person. Clones. Let's go. Clones, come on. Every single person. Clones, let's go. Clones, let's go. Clones, all right. Let's go. Clones, and you can follow the action.

If you're not coming into town for our watch party on Monday, you can follow the action on e they always tell me to say ESPN3, but it's on ESPN plus. They have the ESPN3 built into it. But either way, you know how to find us, please support us because if we win this game on Monday and we feared pretty well against it, the how to devils owned by Jorge Maz, but all this season, if we make it to the finals on Friday, we go up against the Robote renegades owned by Udonna's Haslam. They have arguably the best highlight player on the planet and go cherry. We're gonna need every bit of your support Next Friday provided we make it to the final Lucy. Do you know anything about highlight? Nope

Do you care to know anything about highlight? Jessica, I think went out one time and oh no, please Dan I love that you guys are passionate about it And I hope that you have so much fun, but I'm busy on the day. I made just 80 bucks last time she went. I've been a handful of times. It's fun, isn't it? It's fun. It is fun.

It's a good way to get a little higher than it. It is fun. We say we chant, we drink beers, we have a good time, and Lucy has never been, you've never been able to go because you've always been off-roading. Is that how it's going to put off-roading? I don't really know. I don't know.

Another show with the name that we don't know about, that's all Lucy makes around here. We have a name for our segment, which we will be unveiling next week. We'll be record. So you... I wasn't ready for this week's recording. Okay, so foot girl says, still this. No, foot. Interim title this week. recording. Okay, so foot girls is still this. foot Injurim title this week. foot

I'm a little heartbroken. People really like that. You did a really good job. I just kind of hated it a little bit. Yeah, they liked it too much. That was the problem. I got a lot of DMs this week saying, foot girls, that's funny.

Ha ha, show me your feet. foot foot You weren't supposed to reveal that. The internet's a creepy place. What are you doing loose? show me your feet. Foot. Yeah, foot. You weren't supposed to reveal that. The internet's a creepy place. What are you doing, Lucy? From your dad.

From your dad. With army navy, Lucy, what are we doing? Like, what do you expect? Do you go into these with or without expectations? Because last week, you would think, I thought we were sending you to the most magical of tailgates where you would just have crazed debauchery over fighting over the south for the last five years and instead it was parking lots filled with corporate nonsense.

Yeah, I always go in with expectations and I was very disappointed last week, but I'm really excited for this one. I was a little nervous because I was like, maybe people won't want to talk to us on camera, but a few people tweeted at me and they were like, you are going to have a great time. We all get super drunk. Like, it's gonna be a really awesome experience, so I'm very excited for this.

I am looking forward to the idea. So we're not gonna get repressed servicemen who are afraid of being on camera and saying the wrong thing and disgracing the military. Certainly hope not. Navy does a great job tailgating. Noter name plays them every year. I was at the first game of the season in irland humble brag went to their pep rally they have a great time i think that

that is a stereotype that anyone who has been to a tailgate with navy fans and members of you know cadets uh... would disagree with that and they're very very polite they always come to our tailgates we give them some food gives them some alcohol and they have a great time and they absolutely love football. I always imagine it's like the fleet week episode of Sex in the City. My Brian has been pushing down repressed for three weeks of quiet as when Benyama hasn't exactly taken basketball by storm and recently I did not watch what happened against Rudy Gober.

But Rudy Gober, defensive efficiencies and Minnesota's defensive efficiencies this year have been very good and evidently did Gober undress when Niyama? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Rudy Gober, offensive juggernaut, noted, right? He played him off the floor. It's been pretty quiet over the last three weeks

as you mentioned, no aggregate sites, no Victor Wimbongamma being super tall. Thank God too, because if this kid ever figures it out, and no one writes this kid as highly as I do, I am not a Victor Wimbongamma hater, if anything, I'm a lover of the game. Thank God, he has a, no nothing coach that does not know how to use him properly.

Camp his ass out in the paint and just let him be tall for a while. Well, let me, let me ask you guys this question because I find this part fascinating. The sport wanted to go global and there are gonna be international things that happen to the sport and one of the things that has happened is

I am saying in front of you, Taylor gave the stat earlier of how Joe Ketch, you just routinely, every couple of days puts up a stat line. No one's ever seen before. He is leading the league in points, in rebounds, and in assists. And nobody cares. Maybe not even him. and nobody cares, maybe not even him. Nobody seems to care that there is a player playing basketball right now.

I mean, we're coming out of the LeBron age. Who's going to take the league from him? Who is next? Because LeBron and Durant are old. They've got to give the league over. They've given it over to the champion who now leads the sport in points and rebounds and assists. And we talk about Lillard and we talk about yana's and we talk about the super teams over here and Denver's your raining champion and they've got at the center of it. Somebody who just said when banyama is going to change the game. Well right now it's presently being dominated and changed by one dude who maybe when banyama can do those things and be taller than everyone else, but one dude is doing it right now and

he's the raining champion and when you leave, I thought I may haggas. Points rebounds and assist Mike and nobody cares. Nobody cares that you can't tell me that anyone listening to this cares that the coverage is proportional to the greatness. Yeah, he, I think if he keeps this up, can be talked about as not just the greatest big man ever, but maybe the greatest player ever, which I thought it had been a good 12 years before we saw, like a big man totally dominated game that you couldn't

scheme around and we thought the game had just pass that position by. You needed an agile five. You needed a five that can come out and respond to someone stretching the floor on them. And this guy is just so skilled that he's made us change our perspectives. I didn't think what Yokech is doing to be possible. Jaime Hakez did just pass Victor Wembenyama as the best performer of the 2023 draft class,

according to Hoops hype, global rating. He has been spectacular. And last night, the duo of Jaime Hakez and Duncan Robinson were really great. And the heats went over Toronto. And really for Wembenyama, it feels like it all started to go downhill after Robinson hit him with the smitty. Like that was the moment where everything sort of changed for Victor Wemma Yama. And used to you, Duncan Robinson. We all love how much your game has grown. Whoa, oh, oh, oh. You're hitting threes, Duncan Robinson. Cutting and dishing to our big old. That's Orlando.

In Toronto. Where does big game boomer have one be ranked? and no in Toronto Where does big game boomer have one be ranked? Jaime Hakez was a player of the month that happened to Rookie of the month, yes. Yes, excuse me. So when Banyama got beat out last month after all of the hype by a local Mexican guy.

He got beat out by Chet all of the hype by a local mexican guy. Uh, he got beat out by Chet Homegren and his conference. Our local mexican guy won the Eastern Conference, but I think it's fair to say that Hacke is had a better month and when when Yama came in with a lot of fanfare, but the results aren't there. In fact, if you see the San Antonio stats across the board, they're worse than last year. And they were pretty bad last year, but they're worse defensively. They're all offensive efficiency is bad. They're turning the ball over a lot. Victor Wimbledon Yama seemingly has made them worse.

He's 19 though. Yo, I project him. Like the guys could have changed the game of basketball and we should raise the hoops and do whatever we can to stop this monster from doing whatever his monster paws can do. But come on, the kid sucks. Okay, there are probably a few stops between those.

He's not a good basketball player right now. He's just like, he's taking bad shots for what it is that he does. He's not an efficient ball player because they have them out in the perimeter. Now, if they want to make the investment that, okay, we view you as a perimeter player, it's better that you're on the outside and we'll work out these kinks here. This season doesn't really matter. Fine, but giving Victor Roimbland-Yama the basketball right now is not an efficient play. But you know who is an efficient and polished player? That's Jaime Hakez, Jr. and he's just coming off the bench for the Miami Heat. They won last night without three starters.

So that embarrassment of Rich's comments that you guys were all making fun of, how about Emmy Barisman of Rich's? Oh my God, go sit. Go sit in the penalty box as the state, that's perfect, just get out of here. Just, I don't wanna talk about this anymore. You're unbearable with this stuff.

Why are you guys holding up Bob and Jerry Baribles? There are Emmys. They are not Emmys. What are those Bobble heads of? Is that an eye? I think that Jeremy's is an Emmy. Is that an Iowa thing? I can't tell from me. Iowa's soccer. It was given to us as a gift. Very nice. And it's better than an Emmy. I believe my daughter's Miami. This is Dr. James Andrews. It's not the bobble head of Dr. James Andrews.

I kind of got in a surpassed by-Autache guy, by the way. I thought that was Henry Kissinger. I like him.