The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 2: Morning Radio Hell

Episode Date: July 29, 2024

Stugotz triumphantly returns from WFAN with his Weekend Observations. Plus, Dana White has vowed to eliminate the extra KO bonus from UFC cards, does a monetary incentive make people fight better or do styles truly make fights? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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But just like that, after four days out, four days off, the rare four days off where I was actually working, make no mistake about it, I am back. That's never been delivered that way. I. In the third person, it has never, ever, ever been delivered that way. I am back

Yeah, it was a little it was a bit wordy match the appropriate fanfare. It was it was it was a bit wordy You're right. It was a bit controversial. You're right If you thought you were having a bad weekend People are saying JD Vance had sex with a couch more cushion for the push in Dan out That is true put it on the pole please juju does JD Vance have more cushion for the push in because he's having sex with couches they call him love seats for a reason Dan Dan you know what the couch said to JD Vance? Pull out. People are worried that the Trump ticket

will turn America fascist. But JD Vance actually wants to turn America into the Ottoman Empire. Top five empires. Wow. Top five empires. Wow. Top five empires. Excellent. Ottoman Empire.

That's pretty good. Number five, Empire State Building. Number four, the Galactic Empire. Number three, the British Empire. Number two, the British Empire number two the Roman Empire and number one the Yankees right the evil Empire what happened now I get it to the lady that called WFAN and said she would buy my book to use in her fireplace. Hey lady, all sales count the same. Thank you.

StuGotsBook.com. I mean who's going to throw a book into a fireplace? That lady. A book that hasn't been written yet. Listen, once you buy it, it's yours. You can do whatever you want with it I don't care. Just buy the book Yankee fans. Do me a favor. Shut up. It's July. You're leading the wild card You're a game back in the AL East and your competition in the East is the Orioles Orioles are good to guns Taylor

The Orioles are good. The US and I And I just traded for Zach Eflin. The O's. What? The O's and the Yankees. He's starting today. Huh. The Vance of Blue Jays tricky matchup. Let me tell you, Yankee fans would not last a month being a Mets fan.

They would not. The O's and the Yankees have been bad for about three weeks. Yeah. And I mean, and yet still, they're at the top of the standings right shut up Taylor feel bad for Marlin fans their team exists to trade their best players to other teams who are actually contending the M in Marlins stands for minor league team for the teams that are actually contending

Here's the problem. You can't get excited about the prospects They get back because once they become good they'll be traded back to the Yankees Oh, but I can get excited by him. I was on the MLB network on satellite radio listening to miners and majors on Sunday. In fact, I believe the Mets, I believe in trading, one of the trades the Mets made is they sent away a 6'9", 250 pound pitcher. I wonder how hard he throws. 6'9", 250.

The Mets traded him? Yes. News to me. Yeah, that's what part of why your FAN appearance was controversial. Jazz Chisholm, cool name. Top five athletes that can note a music genre. O.L.I.

Zack Pop Dwayne Johnson Number five, The Rock of course. Nick Falk. Number four, the Minnesota Twins outfield in the early 2000s, Soul Patrol. Number three, Pat Rapp. Wait a minute, wait a minute. Who was Soul Patrol? Who was the outfield? Was Kirby Puckett part of Soul Patrol?

Who was Soul Patrol? This is early 2000s. I feel like it's Tori Hunter. Tori Hunter was Soul Patrol? Is this a Taylor Hicks reference? The guy that looked like Leno from American Idol? Look it up. Okay we've got to look it up because he has not Bryant Reeves big country And Dan Ford Disco Dan That Taylor's terrible Terrible, are you not writing any of these anymore now? Taylor's just writing all the white socks are 54 games under 500 now. That's all I got Listen what I'm doing with Taylor is

Taylor lays down the foundation. I have to twist him and turn him a little bit to show him how to exactly write these things and then I add my own and you know we put together weekend observations. And then he fixes your spelling errors like foundation. Of course he does. Hold on a second the Chicago White Sox to give people slightly more information. 54 games under 500. They've lost 14 straight. They're on pace to win 40 this season. The worst is 43 ever. Southside. The Detroit Tigers. They have as many blown saves as they do wins. Penicillin for my Mariners. Headline. Bo Nix is making his case to be QB1. Here's his case.

He's not Zach Wilson or Jared Stidham. That is a good case. It's a good case. What a case. He wins. Synchronized diving. Boring. Synchronized diving.

After taking a gummy. Mesmerizing. Incredible what they do. I mean. How much? You have not been healthy. You have been self-destructive for a while now. About three years.

How much gummy are you having these days? Because the other day, you threw out a 40 milligrams. And I just was like. Mahala. I mean. Do you do any flaxseed oil to offset it? No. Because sometimes I get that choking sensation.

Supposed to alleviate that. Really? Yeah. I've just been doing less because of it. And now I'm on alpha brain. Mayosed to alleviate that. Really? Yeah. I've just been doing less because of it. And now I'm on alpha brain. My ins pain. Oh, is it good? Are we going to see a situation where Stugatz has

deon waders on an airplane because he doesn't know? Or is he just so strong in terms of immunity to high because he's been getting high for so long? I have to take 40 milligrams. I mean, nothing else gets to you? That's really strong. That's really strong. It's really strong. You're asking me if alpha brain works.

I respond by saying, I remembered a Taylor Hicks reference. Yeah. You need to stop shilling for this Joe Rogan snake oil. I'm wearing his jeans right now. I bought some of it. I was at the MMA Hangout. Yeah. My friend, I don't know what's exactly in these alpha brain

pills, but I know one of them is red. How did the hangout go, Tony? Incredibly, Dan. We had everybody over at Casa Tiki. The fights were good. Could have been great, except for a couple different things. No bonuses! No bonuses? Crap card. The whole thing was tough. It started at 3 o'clock in the morning in Great Britain things were a little you know upside down So little to be loud Muhammad though new and new you feel me and new welterweight champion you beat Hometown kid Leon Rocky Edwards who kind of a boring fight

Dan you know what the s and synchronized diving stands for it stands for sativa makes it a lot more entertaining That's one that gives me like the choking. Really? Yeah. Flaxseed oil. I just read your next one. This is crazy. What do you mean?

Well, whatever Taylor wrote next. College football has a two minute warning this year. I just learned that. You're not playing CFB 25 and then shows. Put it on the poll please, at LeBotard Show, Juju, at LeBotard Show. Did you know that college football has a two minute warning this year? Things you think about wandering around the West Village on a gummy. Valhalla, 40 milligrams.

Roger Maris isn't a Hall of Famer. How? Because he only had the one good year. Just assumed he was. Top five athletes you'd be surprised that they aren't Hall of Famers. OLI, Kevin Johnson, KJ. Number five, Sean Kemp, the Rain Man. Everyone makes it into the basketball Hall of Fame. How is Sean Kemp and Kevin Johnson not in basketball's hall of fame? Explain it. Someone explain it.

Cocaine addiction ruined some of Sean Kemp's better years. Parking lot shootouts. Right, man. Number four, Chase Utley. I mean... Chase Utley is one of the ten best second basemen of all time. I don't like him, but he is. I mean...

Great second baseman. Yes. Great hair. Amazing. Has he been retired for five years? Yeah, I think so. I think so. Yeah.

He was playing when I was last paying attention, so it has to be. Number three,ger maris number two carlos beltran and number one this is a shocker tori holt the south sudantin ken hoop damar de rosen said he's still friends with Drake after being on stage with Kendrick Lamar You know what tomorrow is doing? He's playing both sides Yes, so lying that is that might have been the worst Connor New because you said shy but it might have been like foundation. Shides.

No. The 40 milligrams, like you could have just slurred your way through it. Mahala. Sal Lakata said that the NL wild card race was over. The Mets haven't won since. Callers are enraged. That's what New York sports radio is all about, Dano. I wish I had that take I was too busy

Taking gummies and trying to take everyone's job Not happy about that which part? Taking everyone's jobs what those jobs mean a lot to those great people at WFA and I should not be doing that at an open Microphone, I mean it's okay to think about it never say it out loud. It's not okay to think about it and say it out loud. Yo, chicken thot! You couldn't mean it more! You couldn't be lying less! You just get out the half-hut it, brother! You're playing more charge! Chris Cody, what kind of chicken was that? You couldn't mean it less, you couldn't be lying more? Is that what that chicken meant?

You meant what you said, you're lying a lot. Okay. Here. Okay, well, but you said it You're lying a lot. Okay. Here. Okay, well, but you said it. There's usually more than one and you can't really tell what they're saying and we're just like, yeah, you said a lot of things. That's what I do, I just say a lot of things.

You want my money money? I do give a damn. I get it, chicken. Salamone. Salamone. Do you know, Stuart Finer of Barstool, one of their great court jesters, was offended by you court jesting on WFAN.

We've really arrived, StuGuts, when our greatest fool can be so much bigger and better than Barstool's greatest fool and make Barstool's tout hold his rosary beads because he so finds New York sports radio precious that you not knowing about Mets Yankees offends him. Fart is in the eye of beholden. I'm team finer on this one.

And have been since I was like 12 watching paid programming. I love finer. He's great. You offended him. I don't care. No, but I mean. He's an absolute lunatic and I'm worried about him generally, but he's funny.

I got to tell you, Dan, at this stage I don't care. If Stu finer likes me, great. If he doesn't like me, great. I don't care if Stu fighter likes me great if he doesn't like me great I don't care. I want him to like me boxing match I just can't believe that you made barstools guy What you did to his morning radio? Mission accomplished. I mean, it's just stunning. It's stunning that you can outrage barstools. I was confusing everybody. I mean it's just stunning. It's stunning that you can outrage Barstool. I was confusing everybody. I mean, I really was.

Listen, by the end of the week I had everyone into an open microphone saying they wanted Evan Roberts' job. They came into it mad at me for saying it and then they were saying it themselves. I feel bad about it. You don't sound like you do. You had everybody talking about it. You sound kind of happy about it. Talk to self. This is the Olympics. The best athletes in the world.

The best we have to offer. Can we not do better than cardboard beds? I can guarantee you, who isn't sleeping in one of those cardboard beds? LeBron. You know what the L in LeBron stands for? It stands for luxury hotel. Oh, what are we doing?

These are athletes. They need sleep. They need a comfortable bed, not one made of cardboard. This has been a complaint I have heard since the original Dream Team. They were sleeping on a yacht. Barkley and Jordan were sleeping on a yacht.

And the regular Olympians were sleeping on cots. By the way, don't even think about comparing this team to the Dream Team. Don't think about it. Don't think about it. And if you are thinking about it, don't you dare say it. What are you crazy? Larry Bird had ice on his back.

That team is the reason the rest of the world is so good now. Agreed. That's it. Don't think about it. Greg Cody, thank you for the invite to your birthday party. Put me down as a maybe. Have to get back to you. I mean, it might be a LaCrosse Mitzvah.

I have no idea. I'll let you know. It's a birthday party I want to go to though. It is. What is it? 21st of September. Get back to you. It's part of our 20 year celebration.

It's right around some of the stuff we'll be doing to celebrate 20 years on the air. I'll get back to you. It's part of our 20 year celebration. It's right around some of the stuff we'll be doing to celebrate 20 years on the air. I'll get back to you. On whether you're going to do any of that with us. Yes. I'm excited for that. When are we doing this? Soon. It's coming up. It's like in a six weeks or so. Does this make us like, can we get into the hall of fame now or how does this work? Did we know that you had a year? You might have ruined that last week with the WF a and Stu finder really? He decides I don't know. I don't know the odd person I I was saying me I the FAN people were mad because I was saying that you are a bigger personality than everyone there They played it back for boomer a psion because you are a radio hall of Famer. Those people are not yeah Kobe Bryant's

staple Center Locker hits auction with $1.5 million estimate. The people selling that should be ashamed of themselves. Also, this stugatz is stronger than them. It's weird. Simone Biles finished first at Olympic qualifiers despite a calf injury. Hockey player. Blue Jays are listening to trade offers for Isaiah Connor Felica. Who is this person? IKF. That is Taylor by the way. Me responding to Taylor. Who the f**k is Isaiah Connor Felifa?

You said it's not a leak in the first time. It's not the way you said there a no hitter in baseball has never meant less It's disgusting. We used to lead SportsCenter with them We used to break in the programming with them now No one cares and this was a complete game no hitter. Those are the only kind there are Well, now you have these combined no hitters of the ball. Hey, one picture can only have a complete game no-hitter. Those are the only kind there are. Well, now you have these combined no-hitters of the bullpen, right? No, but I'm saying one pitcher can only have a complete game no-hitter, right?

The 6.30 AM T-time always sounds and feels better the day before when you're booking it at 2.30 in the afternoon. And then you get there. Everyone agrees that the by committee no-hitter is less valuable than one. That's not a no-hitter. Just doing it. That's not a no hitter. Just doing it.

That's not a no hitter. Yeah. Doesn't count. Tua grabbing the microphone to publicly celebrate himself as the wealthiest person in the Dolphins organization. It was strange. Tua, the Stua is strong in you. It was really strange.

It really was. I'm just confused by it. How the money y'all. The wrong people are around. Look at this. Do Dolphin fans have to pay in order to hear him say that? Are they doing admission to come training to his page? How do you know he gets paid? Drew Holliday, quietly finished,

as the third leading scorer tonight for Team USA. Everything Drew Holliday does, he does so quietly. He does! I was chanting Drew S.A. at my computer when he had his steel. I'm not a morning person, Dan. I love WFAN, but man, morning radio is the sports radio of hell. It's the equivalent of hell for sports radio. It is.

It really is. I did not feel good after my third show. I didn't. Someone called me papa. Speaking of hell, or Pryles. Dan, those are the weekend observations. Your stamina is not what it used to be and morning radio. Well, you just no, no, I'm not saying here.

I'm not I wasn't criticizing what you just did. I was saying that your inability to make it through it wasn't even a full week of morning radio was four days. I have questions by the way, you were supposed to be here and there on Monday of last week. No, how were you not in and there on Monday of last week? No. How were you not in either place on Monday of last week? They didn't need me on Monday. Jerry Reckow was filling in. Top 5 update anchor of all time, Jerry Reckow. He was filling in. By the way, I fired all update anchors at WFAM while I was there. I'm a jackass.

Didn't you just say you were sorry for bringing that up again and again? Yeah, I am. i am sorry to do that uh... but anyway did they didn't need me on monday i figured you were fine here on monday monday was a travel day for me had to get up there so i could be fresh and what the other ways are needed here nobody understood why you weren't here uh... i understand we have a video from your time up at f a n what do we need to know here i understand that you spent metalwork resources yet interns working five thirty in the morning you were right across from the street from metal arc never went to metal arc i was busy i

had a i had a lot to do it i regret not doing that i do i apologize to all the folks at the uh... at the new york metal orc offices i was going to go there friday i was told no was there on friday uh... and i was proud of everyone and so i decided not to go i had to go out and see family and do all this stuff. The video you're about to see is me on my final day at WFAN. I thought the listeners would like to see a day at WFAN with me. And so Lucy, one of our interns,

she joined me at 5.30 in the morning, met me out in front of the hotel. And together we spent the day at WFAN. So this is our daily stroll over at WFAN. But she did it. She was nice. She said, yes, she's doing it. She's doing it with a smile on her face. But I know what's underneath that is what the hell am I doing with my life? So anyway, we're going to walk you to WFAM. It's on the lobby here, WFAM. These are how old grounds right here. OK, they're really not.

But they are. OK, these are the same hallways that Mike Franceso walked through. They're for Cifuca and Ruzzo walked through. That Joe Benningo walk through, the great Sydney Arthur Rosenberg walk through. We are now going to walk to the elevator. Lucy, you have a long walk for that. Got it. Dan, Dan, we've arrived at Radio.

This is Radio. We are walking through a hallway at 5.40 in the morning. Oh do I miss the feeling of walking into a radio station? This is radio Someone pounding in a door at 540 so we can make a 6 a.m. shift I got it. You got that? Yeah. Beautiful. WFA.

So, when you're entering the biggest sports radio station in the history of sports radio, you need to dress it up properly. The entrance needs to be dressed up properly. Look at this. Look at this shrine to New York sports First off, Lucy come back here for a second. You see the beautiful logo of WFAN

This is how you have to have the entrance big right you have Mariano Rivero up there You have Babe Ruth right there, Babe Ruth. Think about that. There's Willis Reed Okay, there's Yogi hugging Don Larson, I believe. There's the marathon being run over the bridge. Patrick Ewing, Dwight Gooden, Dr. K, Dr. J, two of my top five doctors of all time. This is amazing. I'm actually tearing up right now. I don't know why. It's weird. We are currently watching the great Al Dukes tour radio promotion in which they are asking for caller seven to the contest line. I love a good contest line. Oh do I love a good contest line. Okay now we're

back out in the bullpen. Here we go. I gotta be honest with you, last year everyone loved me. This year not so much. A little frosty. I am here with a very special friend. It's the Dale Evitarard Show with Stugatsch Universe. It is Mick Lovett. This has been a very special week here with Stugatsch. You have no idea. Just him being in the building has changed the entire energy of the whole company. It's a big company.

There's several floors here. And everyone, every elevator again is like, oh, did you see Stugatsch was here this week? I'm not kidding. Like you have impacted WFAN, like the salespeople, everybody's talking about you. No one's talking about me, he's lying. There's not a single person talking about me. Oh, this would have been my office.

I just walked into the program director's office while he was on a Zoom call and blurted out this word in my office. I'm never coming back here again. I'm never going to get invited back here again. So I'm here with my buddy, Mike Francesa, the Pope. I'm like, the Pope. Hi Mike. Small feet. Oddly small feet.

Lucy is agreeing with me. Oddly small feet. This is the room at WFAN. And what do I mean by the room? I have no idea, but it feels like the room. All right, we are in the WFAN studios. This is radio. Radio, Dan.

Show them the studio. You missed that? Radio. He looks like radio. This man is aged 10 years for every year that he has done morning shows. This is amazing. This is where Gio sits.

This is where the great boomer size sits. Who Dan said is the only one of this radio station that is bigger than I am. Debatable. Look at all this stuff. That is Patrick Mahomes with Boomer Esiason. He only has one picture with Patrick. I have a complete photo album, Patrick, but you know, I'm part of the Mahomes family. He's not. This is what radio is all about. We have phone lines and we don't have windows. Hey there, loyal listener. As you know, in listening to this show, we've been around for almost 20 years. It's going to be 20 years in September and a lot has changed over those years. Not just the cast, but the locations we've been doing it from. We started out in Miami Gardens, went to South Beach, and now we're in downtown Miami.

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Luis Aguirre was one of them. They tried to dabble in Latin flavor and they went and got- Maurice Chestnut was one. Morris. Oh, Morris Chestnut, I'm sorry. God, what a beefcake in that show. Miranda, why didn't you stay with him? I mean, we're going to go with Steve on this one, seriously?

Spugatz! Oh no. Clear out. I have to issue an apology. Uh oh. Oh no. Oh no. Is it a Sex and the City apology? I would like to formally apologize to Blair Underwood for calling him Morris Chestnut.

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You guys do understand that Reese McGuire was actually masturbating in a parking lot and got caught by TMZ with police and everything else in 2020, masturbating in a parking lot. And so when Cal Quantrill yells at him, you jacked off in a bleeping parking lot, you dumb bleep, it's an argument ender. Whatever the fight is before that, you've lost the fight on that fact that he knows that about you and can deliver it at the height of rage. The fact that it's true is what makes it the best trash talking item I've heard in a single

sentence. Just to be clear, it doesn't work as an insult as well unless he was actually caught on video in a way that reached the Rockies. It reverberated from that parking lot to a mountainous region where a pitcher in Colorado can insult you with it. Amazing insult. amazing that it's true a little too real uncomfortably real a little icky feels icky the word don't do the crime if you can't do the time exactly right it all depends on the parking lot exactly the word icky is the correct word that you wanted to go with there. But as an

argument ender. Oh it's great. You jack... It's a Lowe's off hours. Off hours. If I'm on the way home. Yeah. It'd be better than while driving. We'd all agree. It's safer than while driving. Yes. Pulled over, responsible. Way safer. So speaking of safety, I have a Dana White clip that I want to play for the audience. You heard Tony and Mike talk about how sluggish the UFC weekend was. This one is super interesting to me, Stugatz, because understandably Dana White wants for his customer knockouts and understandably the fighter's like, I'd really like to protect myself in a fight. It's hard to do this and I don't want to for your extra $50,000 get knocked out and embarrassed

in front of people. So I understand why Dana White wants to entice me with his chief manipulation, which is pay the fighters correctly as opposed to what he's doing every day when he bullies them because he's a menacing bully skinhead. But let's listen to Dana White here as he just says, yeah, I want entertaining fights and I'm never doing that again where I offer them more money and I get nothing but decisions. Every time you get on a press conference, the fighters manage to get you to up the bonuses. Do you think there's an argument that maybe you should just up them?

I think tonight showed that we should not. No. Upping them doesn't change anything. It doesn't make anybody fight any harder. It doesn't change anything. I'm not doing this again. Ever. Ever.

Today was the last day that I'm doing that. Yeah. Not saying that in the future the bonuses couldn't get up, but I'm not going to be at a press conference and say, hundred three hundred and never again never again you get that everybody on this card for that and the yeah and nobody fought any harder there was no sense of urgency

holy i want the hundred thousand three a seven straight but who gives a fuck it's uh... and seven o'clock in Vegas, so Whatever yeah never again. Okay, I lost seven straight fuck decisions Yeah, the hundred thousand was was was a real big fuck. Whoo. Let's get it boys That shit never again not the way fighting works Just not the way it works until one of your star says hey, let's do a hundred or three hundred thousand dollar bonus like okay Yeah, let's do that right It's a good example to us it was two guys that was about to fight before the match

They could it was about to fight before the match and then they'll say I fight and it was like the dogs They were the day open. It was like you punch first Yeah, you push first one of those guys ended up actually not getting his contract or now go into the PFL Dana's like hey you guys have an undefeated guy good luck He's what he said he cut him right after the fight and just said that fighting style is not for me He can go be undefeated somewhere else. I will only there was a matchmaker we could blame Someone that was keenly aware of fighting styles Because once I'm together hunter Campbell

Because like the fighting styles would kind of you looked at this card on the surface and if you follow the occasional UFC card You knew that okay, Leon Edwards is capable of being an exciting fighter, but he'll kind of Meet his opponent where his opponent wants to meet him and if in the event he loses like he did that fights Not gonna be very exciting. You have heavyweights There's a soft knock out there But the card didn't no one who follows a sport card to card would say that's an exciting card. Those matches are capable of fireworks. That's not really the case. So you have a card with fights that are odd and you have it

being at 3 a.m. local time. It makes for a less than exciting card and he's just lashing out, blaming the fighters for it. You're the matchmaker, bud. The fight that you could draw a circle around and be like, all right, this is the fight was the Tom Aspinall versus Curtis blades, both guys known for knockouts and we got what we wanted a knockout in 25 seconds. Again, soft albeit could have been soft, but when you get punched in the face by a guy who's 260 pounds with a left hand,

it's not that soft because you're going down and then getting disqualified. Us calling that soft is funny. It just wasn't a highlight real knockout. It was just, it wasn't a great knockout. It was a KO to stop it. Tony, thank you for having me on the MMA Hangout. We had a great time there. Record breaking day on the MMA Hangout by the way. Thank you to Cuervo, the tequila that invented tequila. Tommy Aspinall said something very interesting afterwards. He tried to start being a matchmaker because apparently anybody can do it. And if you just blame the fighters for a bad fight, like, shit, I can try my hand at that.

Yeah, did you see what he called for? He called John Jones out, but he had a unique take harkening back to the the days of yesteryear with the UFC. Two fights, one night? Yeah, it was a what he called for was a heavyweight tournament right uh Alex Bonetto who's been the biggest savior for the UFC this this year who Jake Paul wants to fight that would never happen for Jake Paul's sake but he has been kind of transcendent in the sense that he's gotten to the UFC he's foughten already in two division weight classes has won two titles now they're talking about him moving up from light heavyweight to 205 up to heavyweight which again is from

205 and up so it's a very broad weight class Tommy Aspinot the end was like we should have a heavyweight tournament where John Jones fights Steve Amiochich and then I fight Alex Breda and then the winner fights each other in a couple months so it's kind of like a back-to-back maybe two or three months separating these two fights. But there's no way that Dana is going to allow that one. But two, they're talking about Alex. There's no way that he can move up to fight John Jones, who walks around at two

forty five, two fifty Aspen. All the same thing. Stephen Mioche is the same thing. It's big weight difference. I think this weekend, this past weekend in the UFC was like the football fans, real deal football fans who don't mind sitting through a 3-10 Thursday night football game. I didn't mind watching the game, excuse me, sorry. Because Buddy, who I was complaining about being in a boring fight, he broke his toe first round.

And Patty Pembroke came out and showed King Green, don't dive at me. So it was good to watch if you were an actual UFC fan. It just wasn't a fireworks that's going to bring a casual in. Yeah, I wasn't aware that the card was really boring until Dana made it so. Like Dana was a guy that crapped on the card harder than anybody.

And I was in YouTube comments. Those people lived to crap on shit. Well, he's talking about the money involved. Two different derivatives of human race. No, he's talking about the excitement. No, Stugatsch, just so you understand, he's talking about knockout bonuses, okay, trying to make the fights more interesting so that they do not go to decision.

What I would just say to you, all of you who are so comfortable saying 260 soft knockout is I want you all to imagine that you are in a fight, all of you. Your chief priority is what? Inflicting damage or making sure you don't fall under any. Now make it people who have to fight for a living, invest their entire lives in the idea of, I have to win this to get to future contracts and I have to be careful because this guy wants that bonus money too. Anybody in that situation is going to be hyper careful and then the next step on this is what Mike is saying.

It's a matchmaker's job to make those fights interesting because you throw two people in there who are going to fight that way. But the instinct to me in fighting if you're Floyd Floyd Mayweather, is how do I defend myself more than what kind of damage can I inflict? How is it that I make sure that I don't have my embarrassment reveal itself in five seconds because it's really hard to do this in front of people when you're fighting a similarly skilled fighter who's just as hungry as you are? You have those fighters that are more defensive based

and you know how to shape fights around them. If they make it to the very top and you have a guy that's earned a title shot, you can only do so much and you just hope the greatness steeps through. I was into the fights because I liked the chess match aspect of it. And the defense,

especially when you're talking about takedowns, like that stuff is interesting to me. Nobody was hoarder on this card than the guy that was making it, complaining that it wasn't entertaining, when it didn't really come across as a surprise that the card played out the way that it did. Mike, the way that I grew to like this sport is because I like the mixed martial arts competing against each other

to see which of these arts, the expertise in the singular arts, was the one that would win when you have all of the fighting styles in an octagon. The science of it is what I enjoy, but of course all he wants is the barbaric entertainment and the knockout highlights and thinks he can get it by offering more money, but offering more money is not an incentive in those spots. It's not. He'd argue it offering more money, but offering more money's not an incentive in those spots. It's not. He'd argue it quite literally is,

but look, the Patty thing worked out for them. They'd been serving him soft opponent after soft opponent, trying to make him a superstar, and everybody was saying, this is the time that the glass slipper does not fit. We see through you, we know what this is. And he receives the biggest bonus of the night because he had the most exciting fight of the night and

Proved he's legit Do you understand what I'm saying that when you're in a fight money's not the incentive? It's not the chief incentive Yeah, but I don't know I don't think you're understanding what I'm saying is like you say like it's about that a damage mitigation Floyd Mayweather No Floyd Mayweather got into a fight to win a fight and it's all about what are my skills? What's my skill set? How am I best suited to win this fight? But that's what everyone is doing. No, not necessarily.

No, how do I win the fight? Yeah, but how do I win this fight? And it's with my throwing. I get what you're saying, bro. Put me in the ring against a Terminator and say whoever wins, knock with a knockout, get a hundred thousand. I'm giving a damn about that hundred thousand000. It's Terminator on my ass. Yeah, leg kicks. Although checking a Terminator would be tough. The tough part is that, Dan, you're talking about all the mixed martial arts

and how they are better than one another. And that's what we're trying to see, right? What we've proven with the scoring, too, and close scoring is if you get somebody on the ground with wrestling and you can keep them down for five minutes, you're going to win. That's the ultimate cheat code is if I wrestle better than you, I'm gonna win. So it doesn't matter what mixed martial arts you know, I can do that. Exactly.