The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 2: My Truth

Episode Date: July 22, 2025

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our friend Bill Lawrence's gigantic successful production? What are reports saying on the evolution of Ted Lasso? That they are filming and that reports are everybody, except there is one Jamie Tart, I think because of scheduling is not, but everybody else is reportedly back. And I was just like, yeah, because outside of the main, outside of Jason Sudeikis,

isn't that like a lot of their biggest, it seemed like a funny thing, like oh the biggest show you were ever part of wants to get going again. Yeah, I'm gonna do it. How is that gonna work? Because I heard that this season he's coaching a women's team.

Is that not true? Is that the case anymore? I just see here the original cast confirmed to be back. Spoiler alert, I thought Ted Lasso died at the end of season three. What? No, I don't think that happened. You went back to alert. I thought Ted lasso died at the end of season 3 What no, I don't think that happened you have never seen the show You would like it for those who were kind of catching I did never watch the end of season 3 though So I was a I was like wow

Minor penalty two minutes for lying My truth. Pick it back up. Just like am I supposed to be shocked that Nate is going to be back? He is? Yeah. Which one's Nate again? Oh, come on.

He was the assistant coach. The guy that turned his back. Why would he be back? You didn't see the end of season three. I know that he did his Mourinho thing. And he betrayed Jason Sudeikis and went to another club and then I didn't see like how that ended. Exactly. They made up. You didn't see how it ended. Well I thought Ted probably died from what Billy was telling me. In an explosion. Nate is someone I believe who did business with Metal Arc Media. Did he not? Didn't we have an Apple podcast about soccer with Nate?

I don't know the character Nate, I don't know what his his real name was, no I thought he We had Coach Beard. Yeah, Brendan Hine. That was our guy. Oh so that's a different, I don't know which one Nate was because I only watched The one who betrayed Ted Lasso.

The one who started as a ball boy, became an assistant with the team and then went off to the rival. The Wonderkind. Yeah. The Wonder Kind. The ethnic one. You will have to forgive me because I only saw season one and I don't remember much of the details. So was that in season one? No, no.

Why didn't you watch more? It's such a great show. It was such an uplifting thing. It's a wonderful show. It was a great show that I'm definitely gonna finish now that I found out this is shocking turn of events. It sounds like Mike hasn't finished it either. And I guess Danny Rojas wants to still do Ted Lasso.

I mean, it's just not that shocking. He's the one with the long hair. He says, football. Football's life. Football's life. I feel really guilty about making that admission. Bill Lawrence is a fan of our show. I just learned, I just learned that from Zaslow

because New Kids on the block and forgive me a member of new kids on the block whose name I don't remember. My friend Danny. Yeah Danny Wood. He was he reacted immediately to Zaslow saying what he said before we posted anything because evidently at least one of the new kids on the block watches the show live. Loves the show. And somehow you just offended him again.

Yeah well I mean yeah. Thank you one of you. I mean, I'm sorry Can't name any of the old men on the block whoa I'll have you know is a wall Berg oh Which one I can donnie okay? Yeah, don't give him that I wanted to see him try to find it Oh, sorry, he's on my phone. Is he? Oh, wait a minute, I gotta do this to myself, I think. That's terrible, terrible. Probably FaceTime him.

Look at me, Louie. What is he in your phone house? Yeah. Do you want me to FaceTime him? Yeah. Are you that close? No, the only reason I have this telephone number is out of nowhere, he called me to tell me that he loved the Mike Tyson

the one one of the two art of did you tell ESPN that when they made the decision this whole time where Zazz is detailing his friendship with a member of new kids on the block and here you are friends with another member I didn't even know I well I didn't know and you didn't even know it. Well, I didn't know, yes, I didn't know that the band he was in was New Kids on the Block, because I don't know anything about boy bands, and so the only story I have about boy bands

is what Stu Gotts did to Nick Lachey at the Versace Mansion, where he insults him and then demands that he call his wife, his own wife, Abby, and then makes Nick Lachey do that, and then we do something on the air with Nick Lachey, and he insults Nick Lachey again and again. That's all I know about boy bands. And I know that Lou Pearlman documentaries

are interesting to watch because of how he did formulaically the math on making Boy Band successful, that he was actually somebody who had some sort of skill that other people don't have. And that's not all he did. Yeah, there's that. But the documentary work on all of that is interesting on how it is that there was a formula to all of that

that has clearly ensnared all of you. Because if Jason and Chris Cody are flying across the country to see the Backstreet Boys and Zaslow is here shaming him, but has seen new kids on the block five times. Yeah, a lot. There's a phenomenon I missed out on that you guys. You guys are fun.

You know, watch Manudo growing up? I did watch some Manudo growing up. That's a boy band. Yes, those are my people. I know who they were, but I couldn't name any of their people or any of their music, anything. If Danny Wood wasn't your friend, how many New Kids on the Block shows would you have gone to?

It's funny because the way that I met Danny Wood, one time when I hosted Mornings with Joy Taylor on 790 The Ticket, New Kids on the Block had just reunited and they put out their first tour, and somehow it came up on the show, and I literally said on the Block had just reunited and they put out their first tour and somehow it came up on the show and I literally said on the show, you wouldn't catch me dead at a New Kids on the Block show. And then Danny Wood tweeted at me, said,

it's okay, I still am a huge fan. And that's how we became friends. Go ahead. You sound like such a dork. I'm sure he's used to, I mean mean boy band members are gonna get used to the mockery right because there's gonna be some of that you came in here and just shamed Chris Cody today because of his allegiance to one boy band yeah Baxter boys suck you don't know what you're talking about I know that's not me

not a good boy that big boy better not a big boy man I've never done that segments. I feel like your friend would admit that they were bigger New kids. Yeah, shut up. No, I think you're wrong about that He's from the new kids put her on the pole juju at levit Show. Would new kids on the block admit that Backstreet Boys are bigger than them? No way. I mean, this is chartable. It's not even remotely close.

That's bullshit. So the way to determine who is better is who has sold more albums. That's what you're saying. That's a good way of doing it. So you're telling me some of these pop stars that are out right now, they're bigger than like Led Zeppelin. The pop stars?

Well, let's look at it because I imagine Led Zeppelin has a lot of albums sold. Okay, and there's definitely some pop stars that are out today who have sold a lot more albums. So they're bigger. Well, you think Doja Cat has sold more albums than Led Zeppelin? I don't even know what Doja Cat is.

But you're holding up another boy band. But what? You're putting up two boy bands. So if we're gonna do this, we should just look at album sales. Like if it was two genres, then you could just say maybe different, but. You could do that with any genre.

You take one band and just because they've sold more albums than the other, they're bigger? Okay, I mean, yeah, that's a good, yes. No. Bigger. No! Yes. No. Bigger. No! Yes. Yes.

Led Zeppelin has sold between 200 and 300 million units. So how much? Doja Cat has sold over 100 million certified units. I mean, I don't know why Doja, I haven't even heard of Doja Cat, I don't know why that's the example. Doja Cat, the hell's a Doja Cat? I don't even care if I'm offending this person, whatever.

No one knows who Doja Cat is. Well, that's not true. You're gonna feel so sorry a Doja Cat? I don't even care if I'm offending this person. Whatever, no one knows who Doja Cat is. Well, that's not true. You're gonna feel so sorry when Doja Cat meets you later and says that she was listening and her friend. She's here online. I'll tell her to her face you're not Led Zeppelin. I'm afraid of that. What's the matter with you?

We do have contacts that we could immediately ask the people involved, do you think that you're bigger than Backstreet Boys? Because I think new kids on the block would concede that they weren't as big as Backstreet Boys, but I'm also willing to say that the ultimate measurement of all popularity is not just record sold. There are other measurements. It's not just that one. Like you do a TV rating. So, you know, show A had higher ratings than show B.

Doesn't mean that it's bigger than that show. No, not necessarily. But there is data points that you can point to, streaming numbers, shows catch on late. Breaking Bad became the biggest show on TV, not at its inception, but several seasons into it. There's different ways. I mean, the office had terrible ratings for a very long time.

Terrible. That's what I said. That's what I said. Terrible ratings. Terrible. Terrible. But not good. New Kids on the Block, 1 million Instagram followers.

Backstreet Boys, 5 million. Who cares? Well, what is the measurement that you're using to allege that new kids on the block are bigger than Backstreet Boys? My taste? How many Backstreet Boys have tweeted at Zaslow? Taste maker, zero.

Your measurement is just your taste, though? That doesn't seem empirical. That supersedes everything. But that seems subjective. Subjectively right. The taste maker. That doesn't seem like data It's just it's just what you like sometimes You got an eyeball it no, but that's no you don't make something bigger just by I want yeah Sometimes you just got an eyeball it sometimes you know you know something when you see it

But you're the only one knowing this when you see it No one else is knowing it when they see it temple of the dog bigger than machine gun Kelly tell you that right now great example you tell me machine gun Kelly is better than temple the dog always stupid we're talking about here Can we start it? Ridiculous. Folks, nothing says summer like long days, clutch plays, and firing off a few bets on the game. All with DraftKings Sportsbook.

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Stugats. I ain't cheatin'. This since you cursed out Joe Rose. I don't, you, have they offended you? Because I, look, I am admittedly ignorant about what we're talking about, but I believe I my taste is representative of What America would say about this conversation that we're having which is the backstreet boys are more Historically resonant than new kids on the block the backstreet boys I I think of them as the biggest form of this. You might say

in sync is bigger and I wouldn't have any idea, but I thought it was in sync in Backstreet Boys and then whatever's third is going to be, it's going to have Nick Lachey in it, but it's going to be a little further away. That the bronze medalist, this race is a photo finish at the tape and we're going to have to rewind it and the person running in the back pulled a hamstring. You broke it down, you nailed it. I will give you a data point right now. Are we saying bigger right now?

Bigger right now because New Kids on the Block didn't sound to help them. No, I think we're talking overall. But I mean, shoot, New Kids on the Block is playing Stole Out Stadiums, you know? Not the Sphere. They're not, in fact, both these acts right now are presently playing Las Vegas Residencies.

Backstreet Boys are at the Sphere, and New Kids on the Block are at the MGM. Yeah, they're doing a Resi, Backstreet's doing a residency? Yeah, this is a three-month one, but they were, I think, at Planet Hollywood doing a longer one, that this one, they're like, oh, we wanna be at the Sphere,

so they're doing both. Well, it's the anniversary of Millennium. I don't know what that means. Billy, would you do me the favor of looking up for me, what is the host, what is the name of the show that I just saw Donnie Wahlberg on with someone I didn't know was on? Wahlbergers. Wahlbergers.

I just cooked Wahlbergers last night. Really? Wahlbergers are good. What's the brother's name, Paul? I don't know. Oh. What do you know? If you guys let me finish a thought or a question, you would know you're not answering the correct question.

What I was going to ask is the name of the show that Donnie Wahlberg hosts with someone I did not know was his wife, which is Jenny McCarthy. I didn't know that until they hosted a show together. They came out together and I'm like, I didn't know that they were married. Wahlbergers? That sounds a lot like Wahlbergers. That's sliders last night, Wallbergers. That's not the show. That's sliders last night.

They were good. That's not the show that I was watching. I found a new data point for you Zazz. So the Backstreet Boys were honored with a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame April 22nd 2013. New Kids on the Block received their star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame October 9th 2014. I mean, what kind of hooligans are running that? Donnie Wahlberg hosts true crime documentary series, Very Scary People. Donnie Wahlberg was in the Saw movies. That is what I was watching, Very Scary People.

It is not Wahlbergers. What is that about? It's about burgers. Yeah. They have a family burger restaurant. They run it. They've about burgers. They have a family burger restaurant. They run it. They've got burgers. He also was on The Masked Singer, which she's a judge on.

So maybe you were watching The Masked Singer if it was scary. Wait, he was one of the people under a mask and she was trying to guess who it was? And she, spoiler alert, didn't guess her own husband's voice. I don't understand that show. They're supposed to guess. It's pretty complicated. Like they do a performance and then they're supposed to guess who it was. Could it be anyone in the world? How do you guess who it is? Celebrities. It's only celebrities. There's more than a few. There's a lot of celebrities. There's clues. They give you clues. They're like, oh, I hit three home runs in a high school baseball game. Are you wrong, Gant?

And then they're like, no. Would never watch that show. They would be like my if it was wrong, get to be like one of my favorite colors is red. So they like throw it because he was a red. Yeah, I used to I used to show it. Well, Ray Langford and like Mr. Chow then guesses who it is.

Well, they never get it. They never guess it because they don't want to ruin it so they're always like kind of close. They're like it must be a professional baseball player but I just don't know! Brian Jordan was there. Billy, you're going to just accept Billy? To your face he continues to say again and again that Masked Singer is a stupid show. That's your show? And you're just eating it like again and again.

I don't care what this guy thinks about anything. I told you that earlier today. He can do whatever. He's wearing a Bret Hart shirt. What are we doing? That's right. We hate Bret Hart. Excellent justification.

That's what it was. You're going to two nights of wrestling? I'm going to Summer Slam Night one and Summer Slam Night two. Yes, it's in less than two weeks. Are you taking your kid that ran away from home? No, I'm going by myself. I don't know, that's don't know. I'm taking one of my sons. Not that one I'm taking the younger one. Consider taking your wife. Chris Cody had a great time. Why one?

Because the older one, no, it's just a trip for me and my younger son. He grew up and he's like I don't like wrestling anymore. You know what that may or may not be true whatever his loss I I would I would take my wife okay but based on based on her reaction when I'm watching Monday Night Raw and I say hey Tam come sit down Cody Rhodes is entering the ring and then she scoffs and runs away I don't think that she's really try it with backstreet boys Mike this me I'm fishy right now I have American nightmare I have never seen, I have never seen Billy as happy as he just was when he said to your face,

she broke up with you and then applauded himself. I dropped the dry race. Why would you applaud my misery? I wasn't applauding your misery. Two of the worst months of my life. No, I was not. I mean, not enough though that you've told us that if it were to happen again, you wouldn't fight for that to survive.

I was really down when the Heat lost in 2005 too, but those two months that I broke up with my wife, that was rough also. It's funny that the worst time in your life brings a smile to Mike and Dan's face. Yeah, that's kind of bullshit. Yeah. It's a nostalgia.

My heart bleeds for you, Zazlo. It was great banter in the office. I don't believe you. I don't believe you. You did survive it. Everything has worked out. You have a wonderful family and you have a wonderful wife

and a wonderful life as well. But I'd like to go back to what it is that happened all these years ago because I did not know the story of you yelling at Joe Rose and cursing Joe Rose, formidable former tight end for the Miami Dolphins, and I wanted to just find out a little more about what happened here. Were you guys aware of the details or did you understand the details on how it is all of this escalated? Because it wasn't Joe Rose teasing Zaslow off air.

It was Joe Rose spending weeks on air rummaging through Zaslow's very private pain. There was even one time he got my father to call in. He got my father to go in. Thank you. He got my father to call in and my father's like defending me. And I'm oh, you're such a sucker, dad. Like I can't you're falling it, and you're calling in. That was like, eventually I had to stand, there comes a time, alright, everybody calm down.

There comes a time where sometimes a man needs to stand up for himself, and that's what happened. That's what happened. What'd dad say when he called in? He's like, oh, he's a tough kid. He's going to be OK. I'm like, you're such a sucker. You're falling for it.

I'm not going to be OK. That's exactly what he wants. Devastating right now. Joe Rose is 68. Did you guys know that? Fresh fish. He looks good. He does for 68.

He looks great. He's only two years younger than my dad. That's wild. Well, I mean, Mike Ryan, if you were reporting exclusively on why that was, is because he's got a bunch of chapapote in his hair. Like that is just straight tar that he's put in his hair. I haven't seen him recently, but yeah, he used to. He's good.

I mean, what are you kidding me? I can report with 100% certainty that back in the day he used to, I don't know if he's just, if he's leaned in. Don't do that. This is one of the many reasons that Spanish is a better language than English. Tar becomes chapapote.

Soaked becomes empapado. Sounds delicious. The language, the language of chapapote is very inefficient where you can have tar or you can have chapapote. Either way, it's what Joe Rose had in his hair. Like, nobody's hair is that black when they're 68. There's just, except for Mike Shashefsky.

Is that the list? Because Mike Shashefsky pulled that off for a long, Mike Shashefsky is about 82, is he not? I meant 80 also. Mike Shashefsky is 80? Isn't he pretty close? He's 78. Wow. So he's 10 years older than the big dog. He looks good, good for him. I meant 80 also. Mike Shershefsky is 80? Isn't he pretty close? He's 78.

Wow. So he's 10 years older than the big dog. He looks good. Good for him. Well, but again, it's the Chappapote. It's because that hair, like your dad, your dad, Chris, the other day, looked much younger. Let's get that text again from yesterday

that Greg Cody shared with us. I don't know if you've seen this, Chris, because he came in here yesterday with a shaved mustache. from yesterday that Greg Cody shared with us. I don't know if you've seen this, Chris, because he came in here yesterday with a shaved mustache. He was working the Colbert mustache for a while. We celebrated him. He took the compliments. He thought we were joking because we're always joking and he feels we're insincere. But we were sincere in saying that your father looked younger. And so he sent it to your mom, Earlene, a couple of pictures of the mustache and it was just the darkening of the face

that made him look a little bit younger and your mother immediately killed the mustache. I mean those are not great photos. I guess it doesn't photo well. It definitely looked better in person, but yeah, this is, what a creepy photo honestly. Please stop zooming in on those. And so she wrote, just, uh, just when I thought

it couldn't get any worse, what are you shaking your head about, Zazz, because you're Nemesis Cody. How do you feel in general about Greg Cody? Has some of that softened the Nemesis stuff with him? Uh, it was never, it's never been personal for me. All right, it's about his work. And has his work changed since I started coming around here

Not particularly so none of that has not solved but personally a nice enough man Well, but I would say that if you're questioning How good someone's work is and they take pride in their work it immediately becomes personal hold on You've never had a friend who you're like, wow, they're really shitty their job That seems personal to me like if I've never had a friend who you're like, wow, they're really shitty at their job? That seems personal to me. Like, if I'm making that complaint publicly as you just did at this... Oh no, I didn't say that about Greg Cody.

I'm laying a scenario in front of you. I don't know that it's not how you feel about... I certainly don't think Cody is shitty at his job. That's a ridiculous thing to say. Which one of the jobs? He's been a columnist here for many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many years.

All right? So certainly I'm not saying that. Do I like his columns all the time? I'm going to go on the no. All right? But he's a nice man. I've enjoyed getting to know him a little bit. What's wrong with that?

There's nothing wrong with that. I would just say that as a matter of nuance that what you think is not personal some other people might take is personal That's how people get insulted your line isn't everyone's line and I will tell you should be I will tell you that if he Heard this my guess I don't know how his son feels about this. My dad's a big fan of Zazzle 2.0. So I'll tell you something. I think my comments a couple of weeks ago being sarcastic I think well, that's not nice. Well, just hold on a second. Let me do this again because it's been an outbreak here Minor penalty two minutes for lying I will tell you I think my comments a couple weeks ago thinking that it's crazy

That people are waking up in the morning and they're immediately checking out the new episode of the Greg Cody Show podcast featuring Greg Cody. I may have been wrong because I've gotten a lot of messages from people saying I just woke up today I'm already listening to Greg Cody Show. I may be wrong about that. I will say that people who love Greg Cody will love that podcast even more because it is such a funny different thing to see the relationship that Chris and Yeti have with Greg Cody.

It's unlike anything that I have seen. If you love Greg Cody, I find myself, my wife came in the other day, this may have been the time with the anger that scared me, she came in the other day and could not believe that I was just sitting there giggling at a YouTube video of Chris and Yeti making fun of Greg and Greg being the pathologist, totally confused. I was really enjoying how crudely the art was put on Greg Cody's show because they're doing

a low budget production because it's just the three of them trying to put together whatever it is that they can put together against a man who's not built for the modern age. He's just wildly confused by an assortment of different things that always make it seem like he's got bees he can't see in his face

and in his hair and he's trying to swat them away in a delirium. I want... Dan, we are closing a loop. We have found out what Jimbo Fisher is up to. Uh oh. He today at ACC Media Day debuted with ACC Huddle on the ACC Network. Oh snap!

I wanna reiterate, I do not think Greg Cody is shitty at his job. That's a stupid and not nice thing to say and obviously accurate. So I don't want him to think that because that is not true and that is not nice. Minor penalty, two minutes asshole. Alright. It was like a jump ball. I had no idea what that one was for.

Don Lebatard. John, can you rate my Al Pacino from that billiards scene in Carlito's Way if I do it for you? I think it's pretty good. Yeah. Stugats. You think you're big time? Well you're gonna die!

Big time! That is... You think you're big time? When you're gonna die! Big time! That is on my infamous scale of 1 to 10. That's a 7.6. Solid. Good job.

That's a sui nominee right there. This is the Dunn LeBattar Show with the Stugats. Music Jimbo Fisher, it's a stunner that not the news that you just broke, but that we had ACC Media Day and the first coach we talked about from ACC Media Day was Jimbo Fisher, because Belichick has to be doing something today, right?

I do, NFL teams have their form of Media Day. I imagine if the Patriots did, they very much control the message, as the Belichick way did. I mean, Belichick is there, and everybody that is in the ACC network of affiliates and beat writers The two four sevens the on threes everyone can go there and ask questions of Bill Belichick He doesn't have his media relations person. They're like hand picking people

So if you're we're gonna get a car wash So yeah, if you have a Clemson Tigers beat right off ask Bill Belichick a question, you know Somebody's gonna he's gonna have someone with him that walks up to every table and are like, we're just sticking to football here. Yeah. I think he's talking later in the week. I know Miami, Crystal Ball was making the rounds this morning.

I believe Belichick is Wednesday or Thursday. Yeah, Crystal Ball and Beck are there on behalf of Miami. But yeah, he's gonna have to answer questions or at least try to find a way to deflect attention away from it. You can go there and you can have your SID say, hey, we're keeping it to this. But you're at the mercy of that.

It's not the same kind of power dynamic that you had over there. And also it's ACC Media Day. You have people trying wacky things. How's Bill Belichick going to interact with wacky things? Is it Pablo? Maybe he tweeted today. Maybe that's where he's headed.

Can you imagine? Oh. Don't you have to address it somewhat, somewhere? Pick your interview. But like, laugh about it. Like, if he acts, if he does the super serious, oh, I'm not talking about it. Like, I just feel like that's just gonna keep

the train moving. Chris, what if she's there? Right? Okay. Well, she probably shouldn't be if she doesn't wanna get brought up. What do you mean? What do you mean? No, I know, she's there? Right, okay, well, she probably shouldn't be if she doesn't want to get brought up. What do you mean? No, I know, she's that person, right? She might be the person walking up to every table. Does she strike you as someone that knows how to keep the heat off of them? I would have thought after all of the last couple months, there would be some meeting there where it's like, someone else is going to handle this.

We'll find out, we'll find out, and it's happening right now and i think pablo tori finds out has reported that she's not wanted by the people around that north carolina through emails that have been found in everything else she's not wanted at the facility and i don't imagine if they're trying to manage this stuff that she would be there with him today but put this on the poll are you now loud and now looking forward to bill bella check interviews because i did not think there was a circumstance under which i would enjoy or predict that i did not think that that that you a lot has changed in the

last year ever since that ring camera video emerged of what we didn't know at the time was Bill Belichick, but looked suspiciously like Bill Belichick, but couldn't possibly actually be Bill Belichick leaving an apartment with a, I love that sound, that sound is so funny. I wish, can we go back to the show where we originally played that, just to hear our commentary on

that can't be Bill Belichick, but holy shit that looks like Bill Belichick. I will tell you, I often leave my apartment like that and go outside and walk the dog shirtless like that. So there can be camera footage of me somewhere, not unlike that, that people are saying to. Pretty much exactly like that. Yeah, that people are saying to,

that might be Dan Leventhaler. Much younger, prize on your arm too, like conquering hero, feeling good about yourself, yeah. That gives you off conquering hero to you? Oh, he conquered that night. But that video didn't give off conquering hero. Sometimes that's what that looks like, Dan. I wanted to ask you guys about news from yesterday,

and this is a bit awkward, and you can continue to play that sound behind me. It'll be funny, just the creaking of Bill Belichick emerging from a shitty Airbnb. But there was some sad news yesterday. And if we have to go back to the time of, I'm going to say what was this, when was the Cosby show popular? Oh my god, mid 80s, late 80s. 84 to 92. Yeah, it's crazy. Just by the way, real quick, UNC is going UNC gonna be there on Thursday so we'll get

our answers to our questions then. Thank you but I just want to before recent developments what I had often thought was one of the biggest Greek tragedies in the history of sitcom television is just the story of all the people involved later in life with different strokes. The show, Different Strokes, ended up being a whole lot of actors succumbing to addiction or death or just a great deal of awful. In retrospect, the Bill Cosby show was not just a phenomenon and the

number one show on television for a long time but uh... that show was one of the last places where you'll find the sitcom dad the sitcom dad uh... basically died after that show i mean you still find it more modern family in a few places but not very many after that show. I mean, you'll still find it in Modern Family in a few places, but not very many after that. And then yesterday, and not only that, but in plain sight, Bill Cosby was running a gynecology office out of the basement of his house.

And then you learned everything you learned later about Bill Cosby, including that in interviews with Larry King, he was basically telling on himself about, yeah, I kind of put things in drinks. But to hear yesterday the news that Malcolm Jamal Warner had died at the age of 54 by drowning, I don't know how much you guys feel some of these celebrity deaths and how much they bring up for you some kind of personal thing that makes you feel sadness and changes what could be a lovely childhood experience but that show now has for me some connotations that come with sadness instead of happiness and I can't say it for a lot of shows in the history of television that reach through

spend time in your living room and then develop and intimacy in entertainment that i think is harder to come by now because audiences are so fractured that you don't have all of america watching one thing and talking about it whatever the numbers were on the cause be show i'm guessing bigger than any numbers that are even possible today i'm guessing that if i look at past numbers from a different time in entertainment

that it's not even possible to do anymore what the Cosby Show did, even though we have more ways of being connected to streaming and television and entertainment than we have ever had. But it's crazy, during its peak, number one show on television, 33.7 million viewers per episode. Unbelievable. Had the number one spot for five consecutive seasons.

Wow. So Colbert, so you know, highest rated show on late night television, 2.5 million people as the highest rated show. So the idea that in prime time, 33 million people. That was an average, by the way. It's peak, there were certain episodes that crossed 60 million people watching.

It's not even possible anymore, right? No, no. There's just... No, Super Bowls don't come close to that. No, I think Super Bowls are better than that. You're probably right. Let me check that. Super Bowls, I think, are better than that, but Super Bowls go into the 100 million, I think.

There's too many channels. Like, a show will never do that. Never come close to it. Well, can we find out, though, like, what the closest thing existing right now to that is? Like, what would be the closest thing in closest thing it was probably something like the Walking Dead wasn't that like a monster for a while yeah the most recent Super Bowl had 127.7 million so it's double the Cosby show but didn't Yellowstone wasn't

Yellowstone some sort of great achievement it wasn't that the number after Walking Dead are all these numbers going down or all like if if I say over the last 40 years number one show in television will the numbers on that just be a Chart that goes straight down. Yeah, my guess is like the highest rated of like the last 20 years Maybe gets close to 10 Maybe the biggest show on TV last week had 4.8 million viewers. It was America's Got Talent. Wow.

Holy shit. So the best you can do this time in network television though is less than 5 million people per episode. Not peak season. Let me find out like, I'm sure there's an NCIS in here somewhere. You can also change the way that you report things so like in the first half of 2025 Bluey was the most viewed TV show with 25.1 billion minutes viewed.

Yeah the numbers make it hard because the ratings these days aren't something you can actually trust or measure correctly not that that's ever been that. How about this here this puts it in perspective Dan the most watched Sunday Night Football game last year was Chiefs versus Ravens. You honestly could probably measure how many things are being viewed more accurately now than you could back then. How many people do you think watch Chiefs Ravens? Low teams. 29.2 million years below the average of the Cosby show for that five season long stretch well below the peak of 62 million people watching. You mentioned Yellowstone, their season five finale

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