The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 2: NFL Report Cards

Episode Date: July 15, 2025

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Proximo. Cuervo.com. Please drink responsibly. Cuervo. This is the Dan Leventor Show with the Stugatz Podcast. Stugatz made me laugh as soon as the microphones went off because he just snorted toward Greg Cody. You were right, Cody.

There were a lot of laughs in that one. That was a fun segment with Congressman Maxwell Frost. And then the next thing that he says to Gregreg cody any said it would sort of delight the same sort of like the one said that i might my shot i'm a guy he says to greg cody had great a hundred and fourteen-year-old marathon or just died and then there's this silence and he's like hit by a car

uh... and then greg cody goes i saw that! And then they started talking excitedly about the great misfortune of staying healthy for 114 years, healthy enough to jog, and then getting hit by a car. He's the world's oldest marathon runner. He's 114, Fauj is saying the Turban Torpedo.

I mean, this guy deserves a better fate. He was just out for a little stroll, a little and that's what he's done the last one hundred years of his life i'd legitimately can't believe that there's such a thing as a hundred fourteen-year-old jogger it was a hit and run and i suspect that his hundred and twelve-year-old rivals probably the guy who had a man ran let's uh... play the sound that we got from the sbn of still gots excitedly telling mike that Marty Schottenheimer had died.

Mike, Marty Schottenheimer passed away. Sort of bored and belching. Ron, you've waited long enough. Thank you for waiting so long here. Apologies for keeping you waiting so long. We talked last week about the majesty of the Everglades but coming off of the segment that you just had to endure there the end of which People can't live in the Everglades like that's not a place. That's not a place where human beings can live reasonably is it? It's a place that can live if that's been their home for many years like, you know, the Miccosuke the Seminoles

He's that is their home. They've lived off that land. They've proven you can, but when you haven't been used to it, no, absolutely not. You won't survive. So, you know, listen, that was a great segment. I got a lot of respect for that congressman. A lot of respect. One of the few politicians I've enjoyed listening to.

It is a little hotter now, but you're in luck. The state's attorney general just made a sweeping order yesterday that we can no longer genetically modify the weather. We can't do that anymore. It's true. You could look this up. The state attorney general said it sent a memo to all the airports, hey stop manipulating the weather. So that's gonna be great news for you and your hurricane press. He was sending that memo to me and Stugats, right? Unbelievable. Ron, let's play some videos here for Ron

McGill and Gregody's had a question for two weeks so before kazi we want to know what the hell for what purpose of all i have seen kody a couple weeks what is that on his left i'm trying to grow a ron mcgill style mustache but right now it needs to fill in a little bit uh... little bit you look like every look at what you've got uh... i think you have in a little bit. A little bit? You look like Pepe Le Pew, what is that? Thank you. Greg

Cody has had a question though for two weeks and last week he was lamenting, hey you kept going to those videos and I had something to ask and so he's been sitting on this for a couple of weeks and let's do it before the videos this week so I don't get reprimanded. Okay this is a very quick question Ron and this is actually something that I heard on the Greg Cody Show podcast presented as a fact and one of my favorite podcasts, by the way. And here's the fact, you tell me if it's true. Jack. A full-grown giraffe has a heart that is two feet long and weighs 25 pounds more than a car tire. 25 pounds more than a car tire? A tire without a rim, just a tire with no rim? Yep.

No rim. Yeah, it probably could, absolutely. It's a lot of water weight in there too, keep in mind. Okay. Greg, we're all in agreement this is a good look for you. Yeah, you got what the kids say. You look great. Aura.

I think this should be a part of your aesthetic going forward. You look far more distinguished, more creative. Nobody would guess that your feet look the way they do. Yeah, comfortable in your own skin. This is the look of someone like I know what I put out there. This is a hard lean in from one great co-worker. Will my wife buy all of this adulation? Oh jeez, come on, take that off the screen, please, guys. It's his feet for the audio. Yeah, the devil's feet. Ah, yes, his own human feet. Let's play some videos here. Now, Ron McGill has told us before

that he doesn't know that much about the insects, but he has told us that the bee is interesting. Can you explain to me what's happening in this video where we've got a queen is mating, but then there's a praying situation? Well, yeah, that's obviously a spider is going in on whatever is mating, but then there's a preying situation. Well, yeah, that's obviously a spider is going in on whatever is mating. I don't know if that's necessarily a,

I'm assuming it's a queen, I guess. I don't know. Queens aren't usually on their own like that, unless it's a different type of bee. That looks like a bumblebee type of insect there. Okay, but what's the spider doing? The spider is attacking during sex? Yeah, sure, sure. That's a good vulnerable of bee. That looks like a bumblebee type of insect there. Okay, but what's the spider doing? The spider is attacking during sex? Yeah, sure, sure.

That's a good vulnerable time to get them. Are we sure this isn't birth? Not that I would know. It's not birth. Look how big that thing is. It's not birth. There's no way it was inside the other insect. It's not birth, guys.

It's not birth. And the spider, yeah, is probably capitalizing on a vulnerable position, so to speak. Because that bee that's being predated on there probably didn't have anything on its mind except for one thing, and it was quite vulnerable because it wasn't paying attention to its surroundings. Something I see a great deal in South Florida,

weirdly I saw it a lot on 441 plus those old radio stations where we used to work at, the bird flight coordination. Can you explain to me the where and why this happens, the way that it happens, and what is happening here with what is called, I guess it's murmuration? What is murmuration? You bird synchronize their flight as part of a defense mechanism.

It's the same thing you see it in fish, except it's in the air. If you watch a school of fish, watch a shark go in there or a sea lion go into a big school of fish, basically they form this confusing dance, so to speak, which basically blends them all in with each other so the predator cannot focus on one animal.

It's the same thing in a lesser scale of like, when a lion is going after a herd of zebra, all the zebra run together and all the stripes blend together, it confuses the predator and it's harder for that predator to concentrate on a single animal. More often than not, it doesn't work out for the zebra run together and all the stripes blend together, it confuses the predator and it's harder for that predator to concentrate on a single animal. More often than not, it doesn't work out for the zebra, but the safety is in numbers here with these animals.

And they know if they stay synchronized like that, again, it's very difficult to pick one out against the other to be predated on. I can't believe there's not one bird in this mix that like misrehearsal. Right. It's like flapping around. How did they do this?

This bird doesn't know what everyone else is doing. Right. It's an instinct that is a split second reaction to the bird next to them. And it's something that they do for survival. Let me tell you something guys, if it meant life or death for you, you'd be surprised what you could master.

Ron, I might have a problem in my home. A few months ago, I noticed an owl living in my home. A few months ago I noticed an owl living in my fishtail palms. I didn't know if he was just visiting, but then two weeks ago I saw a rodent that was on the ground, and I don't have rats in my home. It looked like this was predation, and this morning when I was taking my dog out

I saw this very big bird fly away from my fishtail palms. If I were ever to consider maybe getting a puppy is this a hazard I should consider because I've got this owl now in my fishtail palms? No. An owl generally speaking unless you're gonna get a puppy like Chihuahua, yeah I wouldn't put a little puppy Chihuahua out there, but a general puppy of you know that's already a good, I wouldn't put a puppy out in the yard by itself unless it's at least three months old to begin with. And any puppy of any reasonable size is not gonna be

predated by any owl. The only owl in Florida that would even consider predating on an animal that size would be a great horned owl. I doubt that's what you have in your yard. You probably have, you know, I don't know. Your standard owl. Now, you know, little screech owls have you know I don't know your standard owl. Now you know little screech owls you know you might have a barred owl but these animals generally speaking the great horned owl is the the king of owls

here in Florida as far as going after larger prey. I doubt you have that in your yard I don't know exactly where you live Mike but not likely. Well big most puppies are not going gonna be a threat. I think by hungry bear. Big Boy told us the funny story of a teacup Maltese named Halle Berry that he let out of the house and then watched a bird of prey take it away. Carrie Champion asked him about this

without knowing that Halle Berry had perished. So let's talk about Bad or Bougie. Some of my producers told me to explain this to the audience. So how would you, shout out to Migos, how would you explain Bad and B bougie? Some of my producers told me to explain this to the audience. So how would you, shout out to Migos, how would you explain bad and bougie? I guess, you know, having an attitude and a certain confidence about yourself

where you just don't deal with anybody, you know what I'm saying? But at the same time, you gotta be a super raw dog and so fresh, so clean at all times. You got a dog named Holly Berry. Is she bad or is she bougie? She's dead. Oh!

No! Yeah. I did not know that! That is awful. I know, yeah, yeah, she's dead. Michael Dutcher didn't know that. I feel awful. Yeah, yeah, she's dead. I'm sorry.

And not just dead, in the most horrific manner, where you have a pet and then a bird of prey comes from the wild and just takes it away. Again, what is that, some teacup thing you said? It's like I said, a baby chihuahua. It could happen to Jumpin' Charlie. Let's play another video here for Ron McGill. Is the panda clumsy?

Is there such a thing as a clumsy animal? Not just an individual, but a breed, a species of animals more likely to be clumsy than the average clumsy? You know, bears aren't the most agile animals in the world. And pandas, of course, sometimes underestimate their weight when they climb and they fall and things like this. So they've been known to fall quite a bit. You know, animals are adapted to their environment, but sometimes their environment is not as much adapted to them.

And yeah, pandas often make the mistake of underestimating their weight, and the props that they're hoping will sustain their weight. I don't mean to be stubborn about this, but is there a clumsy animal? Like, would there be one that you would dismiss bears as clumsy? No, no, I wouldn't dismiss bears as clumsy. I would dismiss, generally speaking, all young animals are clumsy, just like young people are. They tend to be clumsy. But animals adapt to their environment,

and they could be clumsy in certain environments. You know, if I were gonna put a sea lion on the beach, it looks very clumsy as it's trying to move around on the beach, put a sea lion in the water, and it's, you know, unbelievable. So depending on the environment it's in, animals are not, generally speaking, clumsy in the environment that they live in you know, unbelievable. So depending on the environment it's in, animals are not generally speaking clumsy in the environment that they live in. That's the general term. They

they've adapted to survive that way. A clumsy animal usually will not survive in its environment in the wild. Ron, it's good seeing you. Thank you for making the time for us as always, sir. Always a pleasure, guys. Have a good week. Love the stash. Really love that stash, Cody. Thank you, Ron. Cody getting a lot of compliments on this ridiculous mustache. Hey everybody, it's Mike. Down here in South Florida, as the audience well knows, we've been celebrating a proper championship and we've been enjoying every minute of it. And by my side throughout that entire championship celebration has been Miller. Like, yeah, I

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see dkng.co.au. Don LeBretard! The elephant went into a 7-Eleven and bought a pack of cigarettes. But my question to Ron is this. Stugats! That joke didn't really land the way you wanted it to, did it? We all just stared at you. Didn't land at all. This is the Don LeBattar Show with the Stugats! Given what I have done over the course of the last 45 minutes here with both Topic Choices and what we've done conversationally, I want right now to offer all of you guys a bit of a treat here

Okay, a bit of a July treat just to feed you guys the way that you would feed sea lions little, you know Baby fish. Are you ready? offseason NFL Report cards Wow by Seth Walden. Oh boy. He's only given four A's Really four offseason A's do any of you want to choose? That's an all-time low Keenan Allen's a free agent Amari Cooper's a free agent Do any of you want Carson Wentz Carson Wentz is a free agent to do any of you want Gabe Davis? Gabe Davis is

Anybody interested in I want wanna guess the A's. That was Jeremy was. Go Knights. Jeremy was very excited there. I was very excited to hop in there. Weirdly excited on Gabe Davis. I would have thought Keenan Allen might have lured someone out with that kind of enthusiasm.

Nope. I'm also gonna get bullied for the things I normally get bullied for, the way I reacted to that. It was Gabe Davis. Yeah, it was strange to see you react that way. But are we now with Amari Cooper and Keenan Allen in the one year DeAndre Hopkins, Julio Jones stage of their career?

Or are we already at the like, Well, Julio Jones for sure, yes. No, but I'm asking you. Depends. Keenan Allen I think of as an immensely useful wide receiver in Chicago with the Chargers. I would want him on my team. I don't think he's a guardable human being and I don't, I'd want him on my football team as a number one wide receiver.

No. He's a ball winner and he's not guardable in that because he's never really relied on his physical traits. He just, a lot like Anquan Bolden in that way. Anquan Bolden looked like he was a superior athlete, but he didn't have speed that would blow you away. He was a ball winner, crisp route runner. Keenan Allen's very good that way. Can I guess the A's? I wanna guess the A's.

By the way, Keenan Allen is two years removed from a season in which he played 13 of the 17 games. He had 150 yards. What Greg Cody is saying, he doesn't regard Keenan Allen this way anymore. And there are no announcements on this stuff, okay? So when I'm talking to you earlier this week. Dan, there usually is. They usually sign with the Tennessee Titans. And then that is done. Even the two that you just referenced, they did that same thing. It's where Randy Moss did this. You go to the Titans as a wide receiver, Andre Johnson,

you're dead. That's it. But we're at that stage of the career on Amari Cooper and Keenan Allen because I didn't think we were. Amari Cooper certainly fell off and I thought that would be because he's a lot like Anquam Bolden and Keenan Allen never really relied so much on his physical traits, was a ball winner, but he wasn't good for Buffalo. I kept thinking that he was gonna have a moment for them.

He wasn't, ironically enough, I think they should take a look at Keenan Allen. Ooh, is Buffalo an A? Buffalo is not one of the A's. Really? How about Chicago? We will take the guesses on the A's. You include the head coaching hire too, right?

Chicago has to be an A. The Bears were not an A. Chicago is not an A? The Bears weren't an A? The Bears are not an A. Who wrote this? I told you already, Seth Walden. Denver? Tennessee is not an A. cargo has the various was not a word and i was or not in a row this there i told you already set the wall

tennessee is not an a they have came or we talk about the patriots the patriots are not in a lot stop you guys for a second before this more more wild outbreak of guessing uh... breaks out i just want to play for you the only interview we ever had with the mark cooper goss in trouble at the s p n we were happy to take it from me as pan he just graduated from alabama this was the entirety of the interview what do you imagine you'd be doing the nfl right now

dominate he was right those the whole interview yet well concise you don't yes yet a good career well-spoken yep we got in trouble for that, did we not? Why? Kinda like Alabama had an issue with it. The Bucks got an A. Ooh.

The Bucks did not get an A. Oh my God. You may not have heard Broncos? I did not hear you, but the Broncos did get an A. Yeah. Finally. That is one, but Billy, you memorized Seth Walden's list of report card A's because this is right in your alley

And I would imagine dookie would have his own list of offseason a not for this week now That's some we do that later on this keep putting out this early. It's just still time. It's just fluff Every team is not complete yet. There's still the free agents out there, you know And a is a mine and we count an a minus as an a You know and a is a mine after we count an a minus is an a I mean some people are asking I used to how many minuses were there? I didn't memorize it. There was an a and three a minuses The Broncos got the only a no they got an a minus Yeah, who got the only a the only a it's a great question. I went to the Rams Interesting they did make some moves this offseason where I'm like, I like that. Good analysis, Chris, excellent work.

That's how you do it, that's how you play the game. You just raise a finger and are like, do I like that? A, I give it an A. That's how they all do it. That's how all the personnel evaluators do it. That's how everybody does it. I like that and then just point at it. Whenever, growing up, if I ever got a B+, that was an A.

Oh yeah. I was like, B+, is an A. Guys, did you ever get a B+,? I think so, a couple. Okay. The NFC West looks to be loaded. They've got three of their four teams in this division logging A minuses.

This is pretty crazy. Right. Why, you're taking the Niners seriously? The NFC, the Cardinals got A minus. 49ers, Cardinals, Rams, all got A's. But is it because they started from a bad place and now they've improved? Not sure, but we mentioned the Broncos

and the Broncos are a key cog in what has been happening across cable sports networks for the last couple of weeks and I love it. It's very lazy because Patrick Mahomes is the cheat code. He's always going to be in the conversation. As long as he's at a high level, they're always going to be there. We want to eliminate the Chiefs from the conversation

so badly because there appears to be Chiefs fatigue, maybe Taylor Swift has something to do with that. But now the conversation is, are the Chiefs done dominating their own division? Dominating? And that is a conversation that I was like, man, this is so phony, who's talking about that? And then I take a look at the Broncos,

I take a look at the Chargers. I'm like, Raiders reason to be excited. And I got a new quarterback over there, Gino Scrappy. They're gonna be. You went too far with the Raiders. No, no, no, no, the Raiders. I was with you at first. Have the Chargers retooled though?

Like who do they have on offense? May I remind you, the Raiders are always the team that somehow upsets the Chiefs and has us thinking, wow they actually might be done this year. They do this. They've done it. Are the Raiders for real? They're always gonna be hanging around that conversation Dan. I like this division and I think it's time to entertain. Are the Chiefs done dominating the AFC? That seems like a different wrapping for are the Raiders for real?

Yeah, Bo Nix. Okay, excellent analysis. That's true, that is a quarterback. NBT. Yes, NBT. Sean Payton. The Cody's have really brought the analysis this segment, and I believe this is us getting ready for football.

They got some guys, Bo Nix. NBT. I like that move. It can happen with rookie quarterbacks, but we had two examples in the NFL of starting quarterbacks that we thought we were sure about the limitations in their game, and Bo Nicks and Bryce Young,

towards the middle part of the season, they started adding to their games and totally made believers out of a lot of skeptics. J.K. Dobbins. 21 out of the 32 teams are B- or better on Seth Walden's list. Easy, greater. That's a lot. 21 out of 30. The Dolphins, keep in mind, they did change their culture. That's got to count for something. It's in the B range. It's fixed. B minus. I think I made the mistake of calling him Seth Walden instead of Seth Walder, my profound apologies to all of the Seths for misrepresenting the only four A's given.

That's a tough grader. But everyone else got a B basically. I enjoyed going. Hand out a D. Only one, only one on the list, no F's. Take a guess who the D is. No F's, geez. The Jets?

No. The Saints. Oh. Yeah. Greg Cody, you looked at your son and you said, did you get a B plus? Why is it that the Cody kids didn't care enough about their grades?

Is it because their father wasn't stern enough? Could be. Yeah, it's possible. Yeah, the wife and I have talked about that. I had a good solid like 3.0, a little below 3.0. I was fine in school. I was an honor roll student, but I did my thing. But he just asked you, he just asked you.

I got plenty of B pluses, all right? That was like the peak. That was like, I got a B plus in geometry. Yeah, he got some Bs. There's no doubt. He did okay until he got to college. What? What happened there?

That's true, college took like nine years Dan I have a song here Jeremy yesterday. We celebrated mr. Met falling at a lumineers concert Jeremy got in the lab You want to hear it not particularly slab lab He did try and change the subject because you just mouthed long story when he said college took nine years, right? because you just mouthed long story when he said college took nine years. Right. Yeah. All right, go ahead and play it

since I'm not gonna get any commentary from Greg Cody. He's just gonna pantomime and mouth things when I need his audio help to produce an audio product. I'm doing that for life. Oh, f*** off! Ha ha! ["Keep It Light"] Hey!

Hey! I've been trying to keep it light I don't want to lose my wife Cause all these other men Are trying to sleep with Mrs. Med Sleep with Mrs. Med Hey! Hey! On the stage, he looks at me Hey! So dang impressively Hey! Till I fall right off the side Hey!

Didn't know it's six feet wide Hey! Now I'm screaming f*** my life Hey! Now the luminaries are wiping all my tears with their suspenders. Now the Lumineers are wiping all my tears with their su- Oh! Good job, Jeremy.

I surprising thing in the world that Jeremy's a big Lumineers guy. Yeah, I mean, come on, look at me. I felt for Jeremy before the show, and I know he's told this story on air, but I don't think all of you have heard it. And it is charming and it is endearingly innocent and a bygone time for most of you when it comes to how it is you feel about your sports. But Jeremy came in here today with his spring in his step and among the stories that he told was, again, saying that the first time he told his wife, I love you, his now wife, I love you, she thought he was speaking to LeBron James. That's right.

Yeah. At the time, she was, yes, he was. Heat pacers. Heat pacers, the last year that the Heat were making a run, ultimately lost in the finals, really devastating, not great for our love life, but we had been dating a few months and I was scrolling through Twitter after a big win,

obviously in a great mood, and we're sitting in my dorm room and my wife said something really funny that just sort of disarmed me and I hadn't said I love you yet, but I knew I loved her. And I just, because I was so caught up in the moment looking at my phone and LeBron and all these things

And I just been talking about it. She literally responded. Are you talking about me or LeBron beautiful? The answer was her and it's 12 years later, and we're happily married How'd you respond I mean did I love you too really and surprisingly given the circumstances at that point you gotta say it right you gotta say it back You do kind of just jack just pressure. Yeah, I could have been a moment to go. You know what it's only been a few months Let me cut loose. I think you just say it and then you think about how am I gonna get out of this? Stugots do you have any stories from Tahoe that are worth retelling? I enjoyed your coverage on stupidity People could check out everything that Stugatz did last week. In Tahoe, was there anything left unsaid or uncovered from your week out there?

It looked like a lot of fun. We had a blast out there. Aaron Rodgers, Dan, and I am basing this just off of me watching him on a driving range, and it was Aaron Rodgers. It was not Jake Owen. You sure? I am positive, yes, although they're still making fun of me in Tahoe for that. I am convinced seeing Aaron Rodgers on the driving range for about 25 to 30 minutes that the Steelers are

going to win a Super Bowl. I mean, I am serious. This guy is in such good shape. He is taking this season so seriously. I feel like this is the exact same setup for last year when it was Jake Owen. It's exactly the same. The last couple of years, I'm telling you, he's out in Tahoe, he's partying.

This was a business trip. This was, hey, there's a golf tournament to play. I'm going to play in it. I'm going to play well, and then I have to get off the training camp. So you have him playing well in the golf tournament as being focused for football. I have him not drinking as many beers this year as he did the last couple of years and being in much better shape this Year than he was the last couple of years and just seeing him move around a second year Okay

Now he's two years removed from tearing his Achilles and so I think Aaron Rodgers is gonna have a monster season I think in an AFC where the Chiefs are gonna be down to Mike's point I think the Steelers have a chance to make it to the Super Bowl. This implies that at one point you saw him indulging. Never saw him. In Tahoe. I never saw him do that. Why would you do that?

He didn't look as good, that's all I'm saying. No, physically he always looked bigger than you think. I don't know if that's because he was the Jets quarterback and just I walked in there and he didn't look as good, but now he's the Steelers quarterback. He looks fantastic. He didn't look good. And man, can he drive a ball?

Yeah, but he didn't look good because you were talking to Jake Owen. That's a good point, yeah. He looked thin. He didn't look good. And man, can he drive a ball? Yeah, but he didn't look good because you were talking to Jake Owen. That's a good point. Yeah. He looked thin. He looked battered. I'm battered by merely country music as opposed to battered by football. He looks fantastic. We got game Jake Owen, man. I need to stop all of you here because... Aaron looks good, Dan. That's all I'm saying. All right? Healthy and good and motivated. I just have to stop all of us because DraftKings has invested in this thing as it approaches football. And the analysis is Chris Cody raising a finger saying Denver got some guys, his father saying Bo Nicks, and then you saying Aaron Rodgers is going to win the Super Bowl. I saw him golfing. Yeah. Let me add to that. Lad McConkie's got a shot. Yeah. I mean a legit shot.

Agreed. To be the Goat White wide receiver. He's got a shot. People don't know this. You know what Lad McConkie, uh, well. McConkie, McConkie. Okay, okay. You know what Lad McConkie? He needs a nickname in a real bad way. Just like Cooper Flan. He's getting one. Minor penalty, too many. Stumbling. Slightly delayed. You know what he ran at the combine? Because people think that he's like,

he'll find the gaps in the zone because he's a wide receiver. Ran a 4-3-9. Wow. Call him the fancy lad. You have to get out of here just because that was an unfortunate place to make that mistake. Understandable. Yeah, it does. It happens. You just have to go. You have to get out of here just because that was an unfortunate place to make that mistake understandable yeah it does it happens you just have to go you have to eat it worse it's not really a lot of ways it

could have been worse there could have been some body parts there could have been not a lot of ways that it would have been worse so that's something that you have to be careful with. Billy, I know you talked about this Friday, but I have some follow-up questions because I was delighted to hear. And I don't know, there are details missing for me that I want to gather from you.

But the decision at 11 AM on a weekday to stroll into a weekday matinee movie theater felt to me Like a decision one makes when the bathroom is no longer good enough to hide it from the kids with your iPad that you needed That you needed 90 minutes to yourself But I didn't know who you went with or what the details were I just assumed if you're going to a movie publicly at 11 a.m. That you would be doing so by yourself No, I went with my wife. A little date, date.

Yeah, check out Mission Impossible. A date? Yeah. 11 a.m. I don't make the movie times. What was the movie over at four? It was a sad time for a theater, for sure. Was the theater empty?

Yeah, we were the only two there. Wow. He revealed something else they did. But we won't repeat that. Well, they had the theater to themselves. Watched the movie. Mission Impossible. Yeah.

It's a good one. Have you seen it yet? I have not. You should go. I recommend seeing it in the day no one's there. Especially eight weeks after it's come out. Would you have Mike Ryan's great endorsement of it being the greatest of all

of the action franchises ever made? No, come on. Fast franchise. Stupid questions. Dad, have you ever found yourself on a date in an empty theater? Never, never been in an empty theater. Really? Why not? Why not? I mean, because other patrons are in there. Can't control it. It's a great answer. A great answer by Greg Cody and an accurate answer. Why was the theater not empty? Well,

because there were people there. Would you not want to see one alone? I remember, this is the first time it's happened to me. One time I saw The Adventures of Pluto Nash. That theater was empty. That was like the second week that it came out. That was just a very historically bad movie. An empty theater is fine. I hate it when there's like one other duo.

And it's just like, I'm up here and then like another, I did happen to me meet my daughter and another father and a little kid at the, what's the Jack Black movie? The chicken, la la la lava. It was Minecraft. And it was just, it's just like awkward. It's just like, what? How did Dan know?

It was a popular movie, it was popular. But yeah, it was just, I don't like when there's one other group in there. Cause then you're at the whole time, you're like, are they here? Are they laughing? I don't know, I just, either filled or completely empty, not one other duo. Greg, you might find this, it was instinct for me,

I hadn't been to a movie theater in four years. It was the first time I went, you know, post COVID. I went one time for Adnan's movie podcast, Cinephile, which now is a book, by the way, that you can get. So I went on one time because I was reviewing a movie for Adnan I thought we were all going to watch the movie or review it it turns out I was tasked with going to watch this movie on behalf of Chris Cody and Adnan because they did not watch the movie and I came

On and told them about the movie so I was confused as a concept was it fast and furious I forget it was it was the last fast and furious movie Nevertheless when I went to this movie and it was just me and my wife, just out of instinct, because again, I haven't been to the movie theaters in a long time, she started talking to me in the middle of the movie, and I was shh, shh. And she was like, there's no one else here. And I was like.

But there's a movie on. Etiquette, movie. You still gotta whisper. I need complete silence in a theater. That's why I stopped going to movies. I don't like any, everybody gets mad at somebody shouting what's about to happen or laughing too loud. I don't like any sound, okay?

Even if there's something hilarious said, I want a low, murmuring laugh. I just don't like loud noises at all. And if I'm in the fourth row. You don't think a comedy experience with other people who are finding it just as funny or you is a better shared experience and sort of the point? Yeah, but the next line is right around the corner.

I mean, everyone's laughing, and you miss the next line. Yeah, and there's no replays in a theater. If you miss a line, you're out of luck. I do like the contracts of a movie theater that kind of force me to keep my phone in my pocket. I won't. Nicole Kidman telling you beforehand to do so? This is right, I've committed to watch this movie,

start to finish, and if I'm in my living room, I don't care how good the movie is, I'm gonna check the phone occasionally. So I do like that I kinda force the issue with movie theater. That is goosebumps, Nicole Kidman. It is, I dig it. I liked Tom Cruise coming on before telling me. Thank you for coming to the movies and I started seeing it the way that we intended it to be I was like

Whoa, Tom. No, thank you. Yeah. Thank you He said that we're how did he know I was what a nice touch. Yeah There is something Remarkably quaint about the idea of Scorsese or old action stars like Tom Cruise coming from on their perch of what used to be movies and what movies used to mean to thank you for keeping film alive as opposed to those dirty streamers

that are just allowing it to be on a small screen in your bedroom comforts away from the noise and people as you get more and more disconnected, convenient, and lonely. Wait, Scorsese does that too? Scorsese has opined about film being more important than just streaming. That's different.

That's the same thing. Just thank me. Yeah, exactly. Tom nails it. Does he mean it? Absolutely not, but he says it. So where Stacey coming out and saying, my films are art, they're better than,

shut up, buddy. Thank you for spending $75 on two drinks, a popcorn and candy. Oh, we had a gift card. I was shocked that it wasn't expired. Movie gift cards, we get those still, like as a couple's gift, they still give you that. Like, oh, here for a date night.

Who's that? People in your life? Yeah. I actually found concession stand prices to be reasonable now. So as a couple's gift, they still give you that. Like, oh, here for a date. And it's like, we're married. Who's they? People in your life? Yeah. I actually found concession stand prices to be reasonable now by comparison. Because before, they were always super inflated. But I guess inflation has kind of caught up

to movie theater concession prices. So it's not that shocking anymore. But I think one of the things that people are going to gravitate to, and it seems to be the case already with the superhero movie, is we're back in a moment in time where people need Ted Lasso's of the world. And one of the things that Superman apparently does is, wow, the central characters got so much empathy. This is such a positive message. And people wanted to go to the movies to feel good, and people seem to be responding to that.

So maybe we're going to start seeing more positive movies like that. Don Lebatard! You don't remember the idea? I was probably like that kind of thing! Something? Okay no the home run call was that kind of swing that kind of thing! Stugats! Oh it's a good call.

Thank you and plus it doesn't matter who's hitting it like you're not tailing it to a particular aim you know all that jazz you know you don't gotta do that you know that would be a great call swing that kind of thing this is the done libertar show with this two gods I think less options at the concession stand. I don't need a corn nuggets combo. You know, I don't need, yeah, corn, they do have the one with that. You don't have to order it. They have corn dogs and they have the little corn nuggets. Oh, corn dog nuggets.

They have a pickle. They're selling a pickle at the movie theater. I like that. She's too much. How much? Yeah, that's interesting. MC. They have a pickle they're selling a pickle at the movie theater That's interesting MC Pickle smell. Yeah, right. Good point put her on the pole at LeBataard show do pickles smell The last time the Dolphins won a playoff game movie tickets were five dollars. It was five dollars for a movie ticket Do you guys think? Are you guys of the belief that at some point somewhere a studio executive

is watching streaming services and streaming services allow you to rent a movie that's in the theaters for nineteen ninety nine or twenty four dollars to buy the movie outright and do you think that studio executives old old timey studio executives saw that, did quick math and said, oh my God, people are gonna realize and do the math that they don't have to go to the theater, they can just give me the $20 now and watch the movie,

and that's gonna destroy movies unless Tom Cruise comes and rescues them with Maverick Top Gun, Mission Impossible, and thanking you for coming to the movie. I have a hard time saying I'm gonna spend $19 to rent a movie, even though I'm gonna spend $100 to go see it in theaters. Right, it feels better when you're spending it at the theater. Yeah.

At home, to sit down and have you kinda like, shake me down for $20 to watch a movie, it ain't happening, bub. I'll wait three weeks and it's gonna be free somewhere. Who's bub? Person who's not shaking me down. You can't say that bub. I'll wait three weeks and it's gonna be free somewhere. Who's bub? Person who's not shaking me down. Yeah, I'll say that right now. Good luck.

Tell me I only have 48 hours to watch a movie, enough. I wanted to get what you guys thought about Brad Stevens' allergy to the word that the Celtics are quote unquote rebuilding. He does not want it seen as rebuilding. He does not think it's rebuilding. How can it be anything other than rebuilding? What would it be other than rebuilding?

Retooling? Waiting? Whale hunting? Starting over? No, they're not starting over. They're not starting over. They're two core guys. Right, they're waiting for one to get healthy.

They won a championship with those two core guys. It'll be all right. And they got Derek White, who's awesome. Okay, but they'll be all right and a voice. Derek White, who's awesome. OK, but they'll be all right. And a voice, we were talking about Brad Stevens as architect. We can acknowledge now, given that he's won a championship, would we agree that Brad Stevens, one

of the hot shot young coaches ever to be, is a better executive than he was as a coach? Yes or no? That's fair. Yeah, I mean, he won it. Dan, I think I remember you saying something several years ago, that if Pat Riley was ever to retire, and this was years ago, that Brad Stevens was a name

on the Harrison family radar as someone that they really valued. Yes. Like dating back to the Butler days. Yes, and everyone did and does, but he's objecting in that town, right? When you went in that town, it's a different thing. You've seen that the Boston sports ecosystem can feed a whole lot of things

because the passion in that town for winning things is outsized. Boston cares about sports in a way that is regionally identity larger than most places. I don't know how you would measure these things. What do you think? if we did polling across the country and said square foot sports passion where will you find most of it historically passed down Boston is going to be at the top of all of those charts yeah Boston Philadelphia New York certainly so in the history of that city there's been Theo Epstein as architect one of the great architects ever and there's been Brad Stevens who came after danny angel dock rivers and a whole lot of people who were in a smart as he was about you know what i'm gonna do

i'm gonna do an actual heart thing in boston i'm gonna take away soul uh... heart and soul of a team market smart popular green hair and i give my young guys a chance by getting drew holiday porzingis and everyone salutes me as i figured out how to build a thing and make it better than everyone else's and now it means to be rebuilt at least in part because the star lawyer is hurt ritual they need to hit pauses what they need to do because it doesn't matter if those guys are there next year and i thought it would it without jason tatum and i think he

knows that and so you get rid of porzingis get rid of drew holiday and you wait patiently it's okay from gets healthy and you wait patiently until Tatum gets healthy, and you go at it again in a couple of years, right? It's about as strong a hand as you can go out to opposition. Oh, yes, no doubt. But it's Bill Belichick in terms of architect, right? Forgive me, I was doing Hot Young Thing more than,

yes, you're right, of course, but I was doing, and in that town, Theo Epstein was in his early 30s when he was alleged to know other things that most people don't. He's done that in two places. There will be very few resumes like that ever. Chicago and Boston didn't have any kind of winning key, won there. I mean, I have seen the president even associate hot young thing with Epstein before.

Hmm. I Did you just zip up your mustache yes old-school move did you throw away like the key you just throw away a key I confirm it zip up I miss our dead fish in here in the heated summer of South Florida with no air conditioning fans in here yeah, I Didn't think that the Epstein list was the thing that was gonna break everything right of all the things. I did not think that that would be the lie that would make all the other lies appear like lies. And I don't know how to segue as clumsily from that as I am into Stephen A. Smith somehow saying that he doesn't care about Epstein when we're talking about what seems like a coverup

of the most horrific of child crimes. That kinda sucks, right? Stephen A., his opinions constantly siding with power and money over empathy or human decency just so he can get a bag? I was surprised, that one I was surprised by. Not caring about Epstein was surprising. They got Simons.

Yeah, it was a nice little move. Portland? The Broncos got the only A. In the AFC West. Yeah, only A, that's the highest grade? Why aren't the Bears? A minus. Why aren't the Bears?

They were in the Bs, but so was everyone else. They could dress the offensive line, they brought in the coach everybody wanted. You'll have to take it up with Seth Walden. Walder. Walder. Also, just a quick correction. David Sampson said there are no walls in Major League Baseball that are five feet tall. Fenway Park has a three foot tall wall very famously. And the wall in question was six feet. It's a wall he could climb. Stugance has been wanting to get that joke off at David Samson's expense.

Do you know how infrequently Stugance gets to make short jokes at someone else's expense? He's the only person shorter than me. It is a three-foot wall in Boston that we had forgotten about. There was, the other day, a 301-foot home run hit in Major League Baseball, which is more of a crime against baseball than what Greg Cody's been lamenting this week. I love how much time we spent on the Devers trade and the Red Sox have 110 straight.

I love it. Since I visited the Oval Office. Walder handed out seven B pluses. Wow. Make up your mind, Walder. Could have found some A minuses in there. An A plus somewhere, huh? What do you mean, make up your mind, Walder?

I mean, when you give too many B pluses, it's like you're pulling them out of a hat. If you have seven, do you really have any? Yeah, exactly. Mix it up. Give me an A minus, give me a D plus an a an a minus give me a D a D plus awarding the young minus I like a D minus. That's my favorite grade. Yeah, cuz you didn't have the balls to give an F Ravens be blessed. I Think I got a transition out of the

Raggedy now now you think's a good time for one Well, I finally made it through. I don't I'm not comfortable with saying how I Procured a copy of it, but I saw the entire eight hours of the black Sabbath Ozzy Osborne tribute show This had I known it was gonna be that I would have flown over to Birmingham England and seen it was it's insane Here's guns and roses for 15 minutes. Here's Alice andains for 15 minutes. Here's Metallica for 20 minutes. Here's a super group. And guess what, Steven Tyler sounds incredible. It was beautiful.

It was positive. It was uplifting. And one of the things that I'll remember the most outside of my mom coming home with Ozzy Osbourne being praised with love in what is his final act as an entertainer probably. You know, we've talked about this, about how Ricky Martin hit the stage at the Grammys,

did the Cup of Life, and everyone knew that guy's got it. That is a moment in time. Youngblood, who's been around for a little bit, the performance of changes that Youngblood did at this show, he just came out, one song suited up, looked in, it's one of the greatest performances, and just in talking about it, I got goosebumps, it's one of the greatest performances and just in talking about I got goosebumps it's one of the greatest things I've ever seen in front of a crowd you have to search it out I think YouTube has

been blocking it a little bit and maybe you can only find clips but every there is a hush that goes over Villa Park as if everyone recognizes in that moment what is happening you did have the added element of beforehand one of the guitarists said this song is going to be dedicated to Diogo Jota who was a brilliant football player that played for Liverpool that died tragically alongside his brother in a car accident so he was there in a Jota jersey and that added to it but the hush that went over the crowd was everyone at the same moment realizing, holy shit, Youngblood is going for it. It was a star-making performance.

Great performances by great performers who respect and are trying to memorialize other great performers competing against each other in order to do that, to honor somebody, to honor a legendary career in music because all of those bands that are willing to play for 15 minutes and only 15 minutes are doing so out of respect more than anything else but they didn't announce that any of those people were going to be a part of that it was supposed to be a giant celebration some people but you don't know what to believe you're like okay this is an insane lineup they're only doing like pop-ins right no they're doing proper sets and i wish i knew more about it i was never a big sabbath and and Ozzy guy now I am obviously that was an unbelievable show. Greg Cody you want to

give us all your thoughts on Ozzy Osbourne and Black Sabbath? I have a great respect for Ozzy Osbourne and I and I had this is a new and improved down levatar show with the Stugas gamble on by DraftKings