The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 2: Nothing Personal With Mike Schur

Episode Date: June 27, 2023

David Samson and Mike Schur battle it out over David's "shilling for the ownership class." Things get...personal. Then, Tony offers to fight Mark Zuckerberg, Billy tries to derail Tony's career, and Stu tries to guess what Mitch Kupchak was saying after the NBA Draft. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

You're listening to Giraffe King's Network. This is the Dunluba Tarshou with his two-gats podcast. I believe Mike sure is now presently looking at his telephone where he is discovering that someone among us has betrayed the culture of metal arc and the wishes of Mike sure and given Mike sure his number has been given to David Samson by somebody by a a double agent a trader we will see if we will get a source revealed here how many people at the company had your telephone number, Mike, that you know of? Because Stugots was threatening to give away the number and then just sent him, Mike Buck

from Nature B and Mike Lowell and other mics in. And it wasn't Stugots. Stugots did not betray you. It was not me, but I don't know who it was. He got the number somehow evidently. What does it say? What did he text you? I don't know because I just blocked the callers is the tax came in

okay so he is keeping you out of his life he does not want to be teammates with david samson and you have the number but you cannot actually access mic sure it says delivered so delivered and then it was blocked no but that means you saw the original text he saw it was from you you got my number very clearly got my number from someone I saw who is from and I blocked it immediately who is the most likely culprit billy do you think I don't know how many people here have mic sure's name I am bothered by the fact that this this has been a breach

because a number of angles yesterday the samsin tried to get it from me and somebody else I don't know what the rules are but make you think I had it from someone in this room I don't know yesterday, David Samson tried to get it from me and somebody else. I don't know what the rules are. But in this, I think I got it from someone in this room. I don't know what you got it from. I didn't get it from anyone in Metaluck. I was out in the hall and I heard him yesterday asking, yeah, maybe some suits are in town asking for them.

Nope, didn't get it from anyone in Metaluck. Wow, okay. I'll tell you that. Are you still hurt or bothered that Mike sure doesn't want to interact with you? We're doing a segment together. Hello, Mike. Hello, David. How are you?

I'm doing well. Thank you. All right. The tension is so thick, you could cut it with a thick tension cutting utensil. I thought Mike sure was not going to respond. Well, it's a response. I just find it to be sad. A thick tension cutting utensil. That's right. That is correct.

That is exactly what I said, and it is what I meant. That is the tension is so thick. I do need a big case. It's not that thick, really. It's not like there's simmering tension. It's all out in the open. Can you see? No, but can you have Wi-Fi? Do you have the ability to see on the corner of your screen the the

laughter on of david samson and do you know what that laughter is about that she are delight on his face i'm guessing it was from when he was joyfully imagining how badly he would have screwed over bob ross in his state that was how badly he would have screwed over Bob Ross in his state. That was amazing. It is unbelievable. It's unbelievable. It's an unbelievable thing to have out in the open.

I feel like we caught him in the natural environment of an evil doer just thrilled with the idea of ransacking. Bob Ross is the first time it's happened. It's the same exact joy that he expressed when he was talking about how much he wanted like firing people, right? It's like the same, the same deep, dark instinct of like just pure evil and hatred just comes spilling out. But the funny thing is that it comes spilling out in like glee.

It's not like evil James Bond villain like, you know, it's templating his fingers and stroking a white cat. It's like it's genuine happiness. It's genuinely what makes him happy and excited to be alive is screwing people over or firing people. Those are the two things that bring that out of him. I'm sorry. I couldn't hear what he was saying. He was bad connectivity. Was he commenting that he is not happy with how?

Is it by internet not working? It could be us. I heard you find. I heard you find. I think he was making a joke just to make this more awkward because you are saying things to him. You don't like that he shills for the ownership class. That's what you don't like about him.

I don't. But I'm saying it. I don't shill from that. I'm telling people why Mike doesn't like that he uh... shills for the ownership class that's what you don't like about him and that's not saying it i don't show for them to i'm telling people why mic doesn't like what you don't i don't i actually just tell the truth and the fact is micwatt's funny about you is you're so interested in your opinion and what you say that you're not even willing to hear i'm willing to be wrong when you make points that are correct you're not even willing to hear things that i'm saying. And we've never met until this text. And I sent a very nice text.

But tell me, tell me again, then, I'll listen. I'll do you the courtesy of listening to your argue. You better better make a irony on the heat of a listen. Okay. He is willing to listen to make a nice that's on the heat of a listen. Okay, he is willing to listen to Mickey Eries. That's on the internet, did go wrong. But he has seated the floor to you. Go ahead and make the argument that you want to make on behalf of Mickey Eries and doesn't have $5 billion because he's going to give it to his son.

Thank you. Okay, no, and specifically how he loses money every year. That's what I'm interested in hearing about. How does Mickey Eriesen lose money every year? The expenses of running the heat are greater than the revenue that he gets from running the heat. So the heat as an actual entity, the entity of the team loses money.

Of course, you can argue that that's a worth of investment because the team is going to appreciate and value, but he can't take that appreciation and fund the losses. The way to fund the losses is either by more debt or it's by funding it himself with checks that he could write from other revenue that he gets, from investment income, from carnival salary income, whatever he does. He has to put money into the heat in order to cover losses on a yearly basis.

Eventually him, his family at some point, they could monetize that, but at this point, they're not. So he loses money every year, the expenses of running the team are greater than the revenue is what you're saying. Yes, I am saying that. And the majority of sports teams are like that. No, they are not. The majority of sports teams on paper report losses because laws were changed in the early 90s allowing teams to, while allowing businesses first to do complicated accounting and amortize down assets and write off a bunch of stuff. Interestingly, in the early 90s, those losses, those paper losses, they're not real losses,

they're paper losses, sports teams were excluded from that loss, specifically because they knew exactly what would happen. And then, about a decade later, those losses were changed to include sports franchises. And you know who changed them? George W. Bush, the four-part owner of the Rangers, who did all of his buddies, and Major League Baseball and elsewhere, a big favor by allowing them to depreciate certain paper terms, paper assets, and claim that they were losses. Paul Beiston, the guy who used to run the Blue Jays, famously said, I can make a $4 million profit turn into a $2 million loss using very standard and legal accounting practices. And that's what they all did. So when you say that the team's lose money,

you're not including the fact that by losing money in quotes, what they're doing is writing down a bunch of paper losses on things that aren't actually losses, like the revenue that comes in from TV contracts, which is not in any way a depreciated loss. So yes, technically, according to the law, they've lost money, but it's only because the accounting rules changed and allowed them

to report as losses every year, things that are not actually losses. That's why they claim that they lose money every year, when in fact they don't. And the way that you know that is pro-publica, did this huge expose very recently, where they talked about Steve Balmer and how Steve Balmer bought the clippers and when he bought the clippers the clippers were reporting profits every year and then suddenly the clippers lost like $700 million on paper

over a period of time and so he claimed that the clippers were losing money and the reason that doubly sucks is because if you report that your team lost a ton of money, you can sell other assets and to up to the level of your paper losses and not pay taxes on them because you are technically speaking have no income. What you're saying in this argument is this... I haven't been able to say anything. If I have five dollars in my pocket,

but I own a million dollars of Microsoft stock, a million shares of Microsoft stock. If I lose that five dollars from my pocket, but I own a million dollars of Microsoft stock, a million shares of Microsoft stock. If I lose that $5 from my pocket, but the Microsoft stock goes up 10 bucks, you're saying today I lost $5. That's one of the things you're saying. And that's patently absurd. No one in the world would say, oh, that poor guy, he lost $5 when a million shares of Microsoft stock went up 10 bucks

and now he has 10 million more dollars. So when you say they lost money, you're just being lawyerly legalistic and you're shilling for the ownership class by claiming that that's an actual loss. It's not an actual loss in no way, shape, or form. They manipulate the way that they report income and revenue and appreciation and depreciation to get to the point where they can claim on paper all we lost $3 million this year.

And by the way, you of all people should know this because when dead spin to like reported out the finances of majorly teams, the Marlins, the Rangers, a bunch of other teams, You specifically were caught misleading about the amount of money that the orderlings had made. You were in that article, I went back and read it yesterday. Yes, of course I was. You were in that article specifically, your name.

I know the whole thing. The whole thing. The whole thing. The whole thing. The whole thing. The whole thing. The whole thing. The whole thing.

The whole thing. The whole thing. The whole thing. The whole thing. The whole thing. The whole thing. The whole thing. I guess that's what you do. I'm not telling you how to be a show runner, I'm not telling you how to be a brilliant writer. I know exactly what you're talking about, but you're not telling the truth and you're using sources that are not accurate. So go. Okay, start with, I'm talking about cash losses. Mickey Erison has to finance the operation of the team

with sources of cash. I'm not talking about paper losses. The depreciation that you're talking about, basically for the assets when you buy a team, there's a five year depreciation. I'll keep going, Mike, we can go class by class with what you can depreciate and how long the depreciation is for player contracts,

for the equipment, for every asset, and an asset purchase agreement. I'll go one by one in the last minute 23, but you with your absolute perch, where you get to say how it happens and how we do it, because that is what your raison d'être is as you sit in your beautiful house with your beautiful money.

You are absolutely misinformed. So let's start with dead spin. They did not show you. I don't give a shit about EBITDA. It doesn't matter to people who actually own a business. What EBITDA means, that's when you can play around. That is nothing to do with operating income or cash requirements of a business at the end of the year.

When presidents have to go to owners to get money to fund a business, that's what I'm talking about. And Mickey Harrison is required to put money in. You can talk about $5 and Microsoft all you want. And it's an absolute apples to oranges. When you lose $5 out of your pocket and you have a share of stock that you did not cash in and you need that $5 to get on the subway. Guess what? They don't take a share of Microsoft. Mike, you can't go and say, hey, let me on the train. No, you need the $5. That's the concept. The deadspin article showed you two years, two years of books. That's it. That is not why we got public

financing. The overall claim is exactly what happened that's like saying that Jeffrey laureate took one point two billion dollars and put it in his account i want you to tell me that tell me took one point two billion dollars and he put it in his account because that's the kind of math that you do what did he but what did he what did he don't answer a question with the question because under your math, Mike, you are saying that that's what he did. What did he, what did he buy the team for? What did he buy the team for? I was, how do you, I'll go through every number with you, everyone, what, all you have to do is take my god damn text and

I would love to go to launch with you and show you the financials that I have. I can show you the exact why I'll show you the wires. What did have i can show you the exact why i don't show you the wires what a jeffrey laureate by the team for how much did he spend ask a better question what did he that's a very good question how much did he buy the team for which team marlin's that was that was that was a ten thirty one exchange so that is not that is not your the question that you can ask he bought the back by the team for it i'm i said what team mantra all exposes he got uh... eighteen percent of the team

for twelve million dollars okay and what how much did he profit when he sold the team are you asking what is cash profit was in two thousand seventeen from the one point two billion yes he put in hundreds of millions of dollars what his cash profit was in 2017 from the 1.2 billion. Yes. He put in hundreds of millions of dollars in over the course of his 18 years. No, Mike, look at you. This is really good TV.

You get to go like this because it doesn't matter. Are you saying when you put extra money in? It's an audio medium. I didn't say anything. When you are redoing your kitchen, Mike, when you buy a house for a hundred grand and you redo your kitchen and put 50 grand And what's your basis for your house now? How much did he make when he sold the team? That's all I'm asking. How much should he make? he made

approximately hundreds Not 1.2 billion over 18 years not 1.2 billion. Over 18 years. Approximately 100. It's not my business to tell you what Jeffery deposit is account, but I will tell you that when you add up the losses and the debt that he had to pay back and the debt that was on the team,

he had personal debt and the company had debt. And so the 1.2 billion is not 1.2 billion. You take down debt for the company, that's the enterprise value versus the equity value. Then you distribute equity to the other owners of the team. Then you pay a little kicker to the county. Then you pay taxes to the government for the gain. Then you have a number left. No, I understand. I understand how I understand how taxes work. How much did he profit when he sold the team

his and while he was writing off losses every year while he was writing off losses every year he saw that might and then not pay taxes on them again did he not pay taxes on other assets that he sold when he wrote down everybody in the world we can't take i'm saying when counted his return, we of course calculated the losses that he got to carry forward. We of course calculated the losses that he used for the revenue that he had in his other businesses. Everybody does that.

Do you do that? Every person does that. Tell me you don't, I wanna hear this so badly, I'm saying that you don't deduct your losses against your income. First of all, listen, of course, I do something is not the issue here. This is, it's so, this is so enraging.

This is such what about is him when you can't defend the argument. You, you attack the person making the argument. I'm not attacking. When I'm asking you two questions, they're very simple. You are. You literally just your business. I'm asking you two very simple questions. Did Jeffrey Laurie end up

Did he end up with a lot more money when he sold the team than when he bought the team? It's not them when he bought it of course then from when he bought it in 99 the question is it end up and while he was While he owned the team when he was writing down assets when he was writing down paper losses and Claiming that he had lost all this money. Did he sell other assets in his life and use them to not pay taxes, which is a massive advantage to someone like him. Did he do that? I would assume he did. He was an art dealer, I assume he did. I was not involved in his other business, but I sure sell hope he did because I do it also. Anytime I have a loss, I use it against a game.

Okay, so do you. So does everybody claiming. And what this goes back to the, but no one does it at that scale. That's the whole point. He's doing it at this massive scale. He can sell tens or hundreds of millions of dollars of stock and art and anything he wants and not pay taxes on it because he's writing down paper losses from his team. That's the point. And when you say Mickey Eris and loses money, that's why it's a patently absurd argument. He's not losing money.

No owner in professional sports has lost money in the last 30 years. I said on an operating basis, Mike. How many times do I have to say it? I know. On an operating basis, the lose money, that's all I said. I didn't say limiting it. You're limiting it to this very narrow definition

of losing money. Oh my God, this is crazy. I agree. I don't want to it. You're limiting it to this very narrow definition of losing money. Oh my God, this is crazy. I agree. I don't want to do it anymore, Dan. And Mike, I hope that we continue to do some content, but I would just like to help you. It's like me telling you how to do a show. So, Mike, could you help me?

I would love to. Are you showing me what a hit show is? Because you understand your lead. I can't understand it. You are the one who's the elitist. You have this position that we're all evil because we want to make money You on the other hand do all your shows for free. Thank God. I did not say you were evil I said you were absurd to claim at the owner of a professional sports franchise lost money

That's the latest thing that you've done to our me Mike. That's just the latest you have spent your time finding ways to MF me with no particular interest in actually meeting me ever. Not one time. It's a nice gimmick. Oh, don't give me a son number. I blocked it. What do you sound like? It's a synonym. How does me meeting you are not meeting you like make any difference? Because maybe we could have a conversation. I made a very specific where things you may maybe a blind spot We're having a conversation. We show them the wires are be a great. Now live on the air. I would show him everything now It be a great to learn six minutes ago. I would everything I would show Mike everything. Oh, I have I'd like to go I'd like to go on that lunch. I'd like to go point by point on that dead spin article

I think I want to sink right into the muck of this. I want to know that tax trick. But you do it. We've got to do it. We've got to do a stay the day. Yeah, just don't pay the government. And don't tell anybody that's what you're doing. Easy.

Let's do the stat of the day. Please $5, Samson. Let's start of the day. Start of the day. In this year, start of the day. Start of the day. Start of the day. In this year, start of the day, star of the day, and this is star of the day. Star of the day, star of the day, and this is star of the day. Star of the day, star of the day, and this is star of the day. Star of the day, star of the day, and this is star of the day. First of all, there's a lot going on, but I just want to thank whoever turned on original

sound so I can hear the music. Let's talk about Shohei Shohe Ohtani. Okay. According to baseball reference, Shohe Ohtani is in the top ten in the league in the following categories. You ready for this? As a hitter, games, play appearances, runs, hits, batting average, triples, humors, extra base hits, times on base, RBI offensive and percentage total bases, slugging OPS, win probability added, and batting war. He's also in the top 10 of the league in ERA, ERA plus innings whip Dance Flareously Leads all of the PS at a thousand air than what illegal is no PS against him of 609

Which is better than Randy Johnson when he went 24 and 5 and won the CY Young in 2002 so show Hayotani Prime steroid era Alex Rodriguez plus peak Randy Johnson in one due. Mike, the internet has been going in and out. It could comedically perfect time. So can you just give me what you had after whip there? Because I know the point of that was to just keep giving stats and we lost you with whip. Please get keep going after whip and we'll pick it up there. There is only one more after whip was put out as a pitcher which is like a grounder to wide of first and you run over and cover for space. We can we can make the argument can we not I mean I think you just did that

I don't mean to be prisoner of the moment that show hey, Otoni. He's the greatest athlete ever Hard stuff. He's the greatest base. I think you could say he's the greatest baseball player of all time I've heard of MJ. I know it sounds crazy Yeah, except for MJ of course because of the six rings I don't think he needs a few more years of doing it. We were talking about this before how many more years does he have to be a Two-way player to be the greatest player of all time or is he already there? Do it in October. I mean, how about that? There you go. There you go. Still doing it in October. They'll just get to October. You think that he would be better? There you go. Three best players ever. You are so right on everything except I will pin down to make sure on this is Shohei O'Conning more dominant at at what he's doing, than Tom Brady's ever been at what he's doing.

Well, I would say that, yeah, if Tom Brady had also played middle linebacked, if he was also regular, that's right. Yeah, yeah. Which would be amazing incidentally. Can you imagine what a star that person would be playing an anhyme tackling people and throwing for 5,000 yards? Yeah, if Joey boasts it becomes a quarterback and throws you 5,000 years

That's what it is. That's what's happening in baseball. No one cares. What's happening? No one cares. I mean, but he's great He's gonna get paid more than anyone in history by the Met's baby. Oh Man, can you imagine how much they'll be able to write off from his contract? ¿Pero te va a ser más de la historia? Por los miembros. Baby. Oh, man, ¿qué puede hacer? ¿Cómo va a ser más de la historia? De mi contras, la depreciación será increíble. Nos vemos en el tomorrow, Mike. Gracias, sir. Bye. alguien me escucha, necesito ayuda, estoy en Barcelona y las criaturas están por todas partes a la isluc y a la isluc, escuchéis lo que escuchéis, tapados los ojos la calle llevamos todos a ciedas pero lo más aterradores no saberen que confiar

huir de las personas que os piden que mireis, si queréis seguir convido the game. Bird Box Barcelona, a strong Netflix, the 14th of July. You have to know. Don't let it hard. Oh, I like firing people. So I take the opportunity to fire whenever I possibly can, because I can use it as a learning experience for them and try to help them out and try to point out what they did wrong. But in this case, the employee was enough levels below where I was that

I did not do the firing, but I had it done within moments of discovery. I'm just like firing people. It's absurd. It's absurd. Still gots. I'm talking about people who I fire, who deserve it, who have done something that actively requires me to fire them. It is my unadulterated pleasure to do so. This is the Don Lebatars show with Estugats. David thinks he has some sort of control over things going on around here. He is taking charge, he is making new rules, and Stu Gotts who was back from an eight day vacation for his first day can't be found.

And I'm told it's because he's smoking heaters in the parking lot instead of doing his job. Yes, his friends are. He has to get the stress off him. So he's coming in right now just in time to see perhaps Nick Saban boxing because it's video we have not yet gotten to. And I think this

was funny. I don't know how many of you thought it was funny, but Dana White saying he doesn't do gimmick fights and then saying, yes, please bring me Zuckerberg and Musk. I would love to promote it. It's just wonderful. Dan, that would be the biggest fight in history, paper view history. He said he could do 25 million paper view buys, which is like blows out like the last 10 fights combined even more.

I take Musk now. Yeah, for sure. Musk is minus one-fifth, even though he's older. Zuckerberg is plus one 10, a great student. But he's trained for fighting. He is a trained fighter. He's 14 years younger. But what Musk has is, and I think this is what people

might be afraid of, and a fight with him, is the hard, hard thickness and bones that goes back centuries through a part time where he comes from and just like thick aggressive I'm going to destroy the world. But I think Zuckerberg knows Jiu Jitsu. And he also wants to destroy the world. And so both of them are fighting each other and trying to destroy the world at the same

time. There has to be a lot of data on that though, Dan. Elon Musk's mom says that the fights canceled, they're not doing it because she said so. There you go. So. Mrs. Musk. We live in the worst timeline, man.

It is perfect. And symbolically perfect that this is what these two human beings are doing with the currency of, they have audience, they have power, they have money, and they're high school guys who want to be popular and want to, you know, own Twitter and Facebook and possibly fight. Go read about how much land Zuckerberg is buying in Hawaii.

But their companies lose money. I'm going to let it go. Every year. Musk doesn't pay taxes. Doesn't pay any taxes, right? How could you pay taxes if you don't make money? Look, if Musk's out, I'm gonna step in the breach and all fight Zuckerberg.

We can set that up. Zuckerberg versus that wouldn't get five buys. Nobody would buy that, Tony. What are you doing? You're just trying to get in front of a microphone? No. What are you doing? No, no, absolutely not.

I'd be putting on for the people that wanna see him go down. What? That's not why the Muscleberg fight is good. You want to see somebody go down. I'll tell you, I'll take somebody down. You want to see those two fight is what you want to say. It's what I think it is.

Tony, I don't like how every story becomes about you. Go sit alone with no, no, no, no. Keep them in. I will say this. Tony did start doing Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu training. So leave, Tony. I am God. with no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no to be this. This is the consequence. Well, it's not just him. Look, the error I've made among many in giving young people microphones is their judgment is not to be trusted. There is a reason that Dan Patrick and Colin Cowherd and everyone else is very careful about who they give the microphones to. We are less careful around here. And what happens? Tony happens.

This is. If you want, Dan, I can do Tony's top five things you don't want to get Tony started on. Oh, let's do it. Jeremy, you go sit with him. What? So the bill is alone in that room and he's got no reinforcements. And I...

I don't know. I don't know how long it's going to take me after that last top five that Tony had to prepare three days He had to prepare off the NBA draft three days Stale he was coming with his material and his top five one segments and what not even one segment Give me 90 good seconds, so I don't have to talk and he gives me scoot as a good guy is number three Go bleep yourself man better if it had been number five would you been yes yes i would have been less man i

would have been less man about a top five there was three days old and stunk that badly i have the list if number five if number five had been scooted is a good guy. That's the error in judgment. He had many places. It wasn't just that. It was in the top five. Nah, number one, the casual homophobia number one was pretty bad too.

As the big joke that the internet was making, like it wasn't even his. It was shit. Two minutes for shit. Two minutes for sitting. Two minutes for sitting. Delayed penalty. Delayed penalty, unfortunately. We have created a company where now it is official.

There are more people getting paid who are not here than are here. It's empty. We're looking at you. I heard D.P. And I heard D.P. And I heard we have to have you or you got to turn the lights on. We've had that happen to us as well where lights go out and in the middle of the last segment

when you argued with Mike Sherr, look who's in charge how he laughs. He loves it. He loves it. He did lose powerfully staff. That was an important detail. That is correct. But also an important detail is in the last segment. You may have missed this, but still gots.

Ever pulling the grift when he's not smoking heaters said to you that you could write off your $5 fine for coughing into the mic so that I'm finding you and I'm actually costing the company money. Because everyone here is working against me. Nobody here is working at all. They're not working against me. But the one who's working is working against me.

They're belly just roared with laughter. Roared with laughter and everything falling apart around him. Show the video. Tell the video department to be ready with that Mixamon boxing video. I'm here for two days, two days. I don't know. I don't know if videos back there. They're eating the salads.

Here is the video of Nick Saban on the wrong monitor boxing because what people want is old people boxing. I also want Billy and I don't know video is ready for this. I've been asking for this for two days before we get to Stugots is weekend observations in the post game. I have wanted because video around here is elusive sometimes and Stugotsots i don't know if you saw what happened with mitch cup check over the weekend but did you see that shows that i haven't heard that name it a decade shows yeah on stuff that he doesn't know about right russian asking if he's seen cup check is that part of his jobs i'm just asking him if he's followed sports and all over the way to our uh... yeah well i would listen i watched the college world series i was not following what was going on with mitch cup check i mean it's on me you're right

it's on the aspiration well i'm to well of course he's mailing and any herd it's his back and he gets an epidural he's doing drugs on the company time and telling you how to commit fraud as well while not paying attention to the stems but who looks good today that is correct but the news involving Mitch Cubchek what are you laughing about billing? He's trying to do real my career more Dan don't worry about it. I tell them that when he came back he should ask if you played the saving video and offered a fight Sabin.

So he's actively trying to undermine you. He didn't tell you why he was trying to do that. He did that off mic just to bleep you. It's not even being a teammate. He just wanted to advance the show, the storyline that's going on. No, but that could have been the content with you doing it with the mic on. You're actively trying to derail the career. Feed him the joke or derail the career of Tony. One of the other, they could be confused.

Feed his demise. The joke would have been so well received great for everybody. Dan would have kicked me so far into the Bay. Yes, I guess. That Billy has suffered these things before and been sent to the Bay many times in pursuit of that kind of derailing funny. That may cost you your career because I am insane at this point

that I can't take a vacation that everyone else does. What video do you want up? Of Mitch Coptchek, and this is the backstory. That's right, Mitch. And, well, let's see, actually, you know what? I would like to seed the flor Stugots to react to see if he has any idea what the context for this sound is. Just play the sound. Let's do it this way from this angle just to see how little Stugots knows and whether

he can actually fake his way through this particular labyrinth of mailing it in. Here's Mitch Cubschek talking Stug pleas. This is a quiz. Tell us what it means. Well, everything that we, you know, every answer that God we got to every every question. You know, I would say, you know, he is a freshman, right? So, you know, he's a little bit, you know, I would say younger than, So, you know, he's a little bit, you know, I would say younger than, um, I wouldn't say younger. I have been going to go in that direction, actually. I just got to go.

Stugots, his fat fingers are trying to call something up for information. Go ahead. Go ahead, go ahead, Stugots. Well, I was trying to see where Mitch Cubschak is currently working. It was right behind him. All you had to do was look at the video. It was a giant banner. I was told to listen, not look and I was listening. Okay. So he is talking about whoever they got in the NBA draft. Okay, I don't want to do this. You know who they got? Oh, they got a Brandon Miller. And so what's he saying? Is that the kid from

Alabama? I know he's got some off the court issues. I know there are a lot of people who are upset that we took this guy, but he's the guy from an on court perspective and hopefully he'll get better off the court as time goes on. But from an on court perspective, he is exactly what we needed. We got the guy we wanted. We got the guy we needed. Were you too busy looking it up to retain anything that was said there, like why it is that it's funny that that sound is what he did there because that's not what he said. Oh. What, I mean, you come-

You're talking to guests, I mean, like, but you're just, you weren't listening to the sound that just played. Well, I was gonna try again, or it's- You want, I guess we should try it again. Oh, no, no, we don't want to try it again. So they didn't get the guy they wanted. How can it change? You think you can? want to try it again. So they didn't get the guy they wanted. How can it change?

I think you answered. I only do it again if you think that his answer will change upon watching it a second. I promise I'll pay attention this time. I promise you, it will change. I didn't ask you to pay attention. Do you think his answer will change? I don't know if he'll understand it still.

Let's see if his answer will change. I don't think the subject matter is something he has very much familiarity with. let's go again scouts on or do Well everything that we you know every answer they got we got to every every question You know, I would say you know, he he is a freshman right, so you know, he's a little bit, you know, I would say younger than, I would say younger than, I have been going that direction actually. I just better go. So he works for the Hornets. I told you this is terrible. He's the GM. He just decided like, hey, there's no excuse

for the guy that we took. I took the best player. That's it. And he backed off because he had the back off. I still don't think you understand it. What he's doing there. But it was a different answer one more time. He didn't want to make excuses.

He realized that he was gonna get aggregated. He realized it. He's about to make excuses for something that you can't make excuses for. This is top quality. I told you to be different. Let us write into this. We may want to bank this one. This is gonna be great.

Stu, can we show it one more time? One more chance. Do you wanna see where he works? Charlotte, do you see the thing that's important? Well, everything that we, you know, every answer that we got to every question. You know, I would say, you know, he is a freshman, right? So, you know, he's a little bit, you know, I would say younger than, I would say younger, not a bit like you can go in that direction, actually.

I'll just back off. He's younger, but he's not younger. This is top quality entertainment. I mean, he got it. He did get it right. He's younger, but he's not younger. I don't want to say he's younger, because there was that gun thing. And somebody murdered that. And I got caught in mid-air and I was saying something as the leader of a team

And it's Mitch Cutt check I've been in basketball for 30 years and these gun incidents I've learned enough about the internet that I don't want to be aggregated here with I was saying that that whole gun thing Hey was younger. He wouldn't have done it as a sophomore. So the new owner is gonna fire him. He knows that He's done. He's in the ninth inning. Then he looked it. Put it on the pole. Please, Jude, you at Leviton show did cup check look like he was in the ninth inning. Third time to charm, Dana.