The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 2: Panky Rings

Episode Date: June 9, 2025

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This is the Don LeBattor Show with the StuGuts Podcast. This episode is presented by Smirnoff. We do game days. Please drink responsibly. The Smirnoff company, New York, New York. If you want some concentrated, 100% pure basketball, good stuff, Amin and Izzy and oddball will be here at the end of the hour to cover things better than we did around here today as Greg Cody just fell in

love with the mid-range game of Shay what did you call them Gilgis did you call him what did how did you pronounce Alexander okay Alexander works yes that works correctly the better analysis from experts better than us ameen and Izzy will be here shortly. Dominique had an observation during the break that I would imagine, Chris, can you reach out to your mother and ask her how she feels about this? He was asking, how do you imagine Greg's wife feels?

Erlene, wonderful. Erlene, wonderful woman, everyone agrees. How does she feel about the fact that Greg doesn't wear a wedding ring but does wear two pinky rings? Okay. How old are the pinky rings? They older than your marriage? Did you mean to slur that like that, or did you?

In the meantime. I'm wearing clear aligners, you know. Okay, it's not the big league shoe from the other day? No, it's still stuck in my teeth. That's not good. Let's go ahead and clip that one for the club, though. Couple blocks down. Little marble mouth.

I don't know how old these rings are. I'm not sure. But you've been wearing pinky rings for roughly how long? 10 years maybe. And how long haven't you worn a wedding ring? 10 years maybe, something like that. So you took it off and said, you know where I'm gonna put the ring?

Instead of my ring finger on my pinky finger. Instead of one symbol for my love, I'm gonna put two symbols for my narcissism. That's right. That's right, cause I'm a playa. That's right, spelled like we spell beach. That's playa. I've texted her, I'll let you know when she responds.

We can also get her on. It's a good question. How do you imagine she feels, Greg, about this? That you do not wear a wedding ring ring you have not worn one for ten years But you wear two pinky rings because that you want to give off his style And that is the only jewelry you wear right you do not wear a necklace or a watch of any kind It's just two pinky rings. Yes, pinky rings. That's right I she knows we're married. I know we're married. I don't need a ring. You know she knows we're married is a great lie

I want you to be honest with me. How long did you say you have not been wearing the wedding ring? I don't know ten during that time have you ever had to say like somebody or no no sorry I'm married like where somebody gets the wrong idea, and you have to be like I'm married I know I have only two pinky rings here, and that's it I'm a player it suggests. I'm open for business that I don't Connotation of pinky rings no, oh great. What is it? Tell me great like me Greg. I have no idea your jewelry Absolutely says you're open for business Your lack of a wedding ring isn't the only thing on your hand that says you're open for business.

Well, where is that written? It's never written. On your face. It's unwritten rule. Of course it's not, you don't write it down, but like. Never write it down. People, it's like, the first time I became aware of like pinky rings was like through the HBO documentary Pimp's Up, Hose Down.

Okay. The pimps. You familiar, Dad? They wear pinky rings. Sure, nothing wrong with that. Okay. And it was like, nothing's wrong with anyone wearing a pinky ring.

I think when I was young, one earring meant a certain thing and then it became a time where two earrings was cool and you weren't suggesting anything by wearing two earrings. So things changed, but from when I was a kid until now, it may have changed, but it was understood that if you had on a pinky ring, playa. And if you got two of them, panky.

Open for business two times. I'm open for business, you think I'm closed? I'm still open. I particularly found it interesting though because we were talking about wedding rings and so I looked around to see everyone didn't have wedding ring and you were obviously very offended by the idea that anyone would expect

you to wear a wedding ring and then I looked a half inch away from your ring finger and was like, so you decided that whatever these pinky rings represent to you, because it's not even I would get if you were like rings make me uncomfortable, I don't wear rings, then you have neck and hands like my man Roy, neck and hands, but you were like no, I just don't wanna wear it for what reason?

Why don't I wanna wear a wedding ring? But also making the stylistic choice of, I do want to give this off. I don't want anyone to know what this one gives off. But two times over here, I want everyone to know what this is. I want to know also the backstory of how you purchased it. Were any of them a gift?

Did you do it at the same time? Did you do it when your hand was naked? Did you say, I want to be open for business? Like, what's the back story? I've got him just stumbling into like in his junk drawer a bolt and be like, oh this will look cool. Yeah That's not entirely untrue. I don't remember the Reasonology behind it. I have several of these I picked two that I think go together Although one is silver and one is but you like the way they look, yes. Like what are you really doing putting those on all the time?

Yeah, a little bit. I think part of it is that you're entirely right. I've never worn jewelry. I've never worn a wristwatch. I'm not a chain guy. I just don't, you know, I don't have tattoos. This distinguishes me in a very tiny, small way. I didn't know it symbolized anything.

I thought it was just me wearing jewelry on a different finger. So before we get contact from Earline, I think we as a team, we're gonna have to come up with some good explanation for Greg Cody because I feel like I've backed him into a tough corner right now because it's like what you are suggesting is

whatever the feeling that these panky rings give me is so strong that I will put it on my ring finger, which would suggest that there's another feeling somewhere else that is so strong that you might wanna wear a piece of jewelry. If you were naked handed, I'd be like, all right, Greg, it's uncomfortable. It's like an OCD thing.

I feel you, dog. You don't have to wear it. But the fact that you were like, hey, let me put on one of these, you know what? You know what my you know what this left hand me another one at it To Panky's the way that Greg is doing it. Go one more take that early. It's it's so aggressive. Yes Greg guys are insane Greg. We're great. Yes, you Greg don't wearing two Pinky rings makes it so that he has no discomfort whatsoever saying to you and being accurate that they're both Panky he's saying it's P a n k y Because you have two of them. Okay, it ceases to be merely a pinky ring that you're being so aggressively

I'm open for business that they're Panky ring. Okay, alright, Hanky Panky, is that what that means? Getting closer. It's in the realm. You go upside down pineapple on a cruise ship? Like what else are we doing here? I don't know what that means either. You back off with that. If you see an upside down pineapple, don't go in.

I didn't think that you thought that I would on this Monday ignore the number 11 Toyota Camry of Joe Gibbs racing. You didn't think I was gonna do that, did you? You didn't think I was gonna do that, not today. What a race! I was not gonna do that today. Talking about this foolishness with his panky rank. Might be my favorite Fire Keepers Casino 400 ever.

Wow, that's insane. It really might be. Great racing on Amazon Prime. Denny Hamlin, he had just had his seventh hundredth start, and he wins his first race post-700 start, 44 years old. And something interesting that he said after he won the race to the Amazon crew, well, he said plenty interesting after the race. In fact, let's queue that video up first. Alright, hold on. Heel turn? We're going full heel turn? I mean, he's been NASCAR's's heel and he relishes the rule. Daddy I'm sorry but

I beat your favorite driver folks. I gotta ask, like Tony did, who's that? All of them. Josevar was a hometown guy. Josevar has been racing really well, had a flat tire, gets him out of the race. But that is a cliched line that he occasionally tosses out there. He also, keep in mind, this was Michigan Motor Speedway, after that, recent Buckeye fan Denny Hamlin, at least publicly, gave him the OH on his way out. But one thing that he said that was interesting

is all he wants to do is get in the top 10 in NASCAR wins all time. Which is a curious thing for Denny Hamlin to say because the thing about Denny Hamlin is he's never won a cup series championship. He's always up there. It would shock people that have casually followed NASCAR that he hasn't won a championship yet. He's still looking for that, but he says top 10 wins all time means more to me than being a cup series champion, which I found odd and awfully convenient for a dude that hasn't won it.

It's true that he's the Connor McDavid of NASCAR. There's no question about that. Only, only he's 20 years older. You know, the window's closing for him. Yeah, but NASCAR drivers age a little bit slower than, than hockey players and some other athletes. Leave McDavid alone. Just stop.

I'm just noting that he hasn't won a Stanley Cup yet. So what happened 10 years ago? As a matter of fact, right? So 10 years ago, what happened? There was so, I think you've been married for like 40 years. Oh yeah. Yeah. So you had that thing on for 30 years.

Yeah. And one morning you woke up, let me move this over to my left. Okay, I can tell you very easily why I don't wear a wedding ring. It's more difficult to tell you why I wear a pinky ring. Okay, the wedding ring, probably because my fingers got fat, the wedding ring split on the back and began really pinching me almost to the point of drawing blood. And so I separated it and rather than have it repaired, I'm like, you know what, my feels good without without that ring.

So fat fingers, your fingers had gotten too fat. Yeah, yeah, I'd probably gained 10 pounds over the years, you know, I'm not the kind of guy who really balloons like you tend to. But, you know, I will, I will gain, you know, 1015 pounds, then I'll lose, you know, you know, I just mean, I don't mean now you look pretty, I was gonna say svelte looks like I carried away but he's laughing out there. What is that? I'm a pimp all of a sudden? It's in the preview it's not on the screen oh you're looking at something that's a good Photoshop. Yeah we're a terrible Photoshop. Where'd the right side of my face go? Bit of a difference in skin color there.

All right, look. That's a good looking cigar though. Somebody get ahold of whoever's in video with the Photoshop. Big looking cigar. And arrest that person. Take them outside and take away their freedom. Danny, get outta here.

The other thing that I just want to address here. The verb balloon. Where's my heart now? Balloon. What about it? I mean, it's just, it's, there's a cruelty in it. Crituitous. It's a fun word, you know, it's like, yeah. Party's festive. I think you've deflated it in recent years. Yeah, he just made you a good time. I don't wanna look at you, I can't look at you. Balloon as a verb, like to look me in the face when. No one wants to do that. It's a party balloon, helium. Have you ever been somewhere where there are balloons

and it wasn't fun? Good question. Not a lot of balloons at funerals in sad places. Balloons are happy things things he did get me on that but balloon is a verb to talk about no there's that yeah that's a different kind of balloon roy reporting live you guys want to watch roy again which one do you want to watch i like the sad one so clarify there's there ceased being a balloon when the good times stopped that's true there wasn't like a hind, Hindenburg crash,

let me bring in some balloons. I like the sad one where it's like, they've scored. They've got a goal. Okay, let's do the sad one where Roy grabs his, look, this is what's happened, okay? A man who's had many years in the field of military training of knowing how to report in times of crisis. As others scurry for the exits,

as others who like microphones but don't know the responsibility of microphones, yell, suck at Mike Ryan, and then run into the distance, Roy Bellamy is in the middle of the chaos meets the moment and grabs his headset and runs into the fray. He is Tom Hanks, Forrest Gump, going into the fray again and again to go and retrieve people

and bring them to safety. Heroic. Yes, it genuinely harkens back to a time where you look to a news person to lead you when you're scared. In times of fear and crisis, when you need a reasonable objective voice to just deliver the news,

Roy's there to give you the score going back to the point you know that oh my god oh my god the Everton all is a tight dis game at four wow Edward R. Bellamy going to go in overtime

oh my god dude this is like a team of destiny holy shit Corey Perry Oh my god, dude, this is like a team of destiny. Holy shit Cory Perry Has tied this game of four 17 seconds left in regulation I have fixated it took several times playing this clip check out the terror on roses. Oh my god Pure terror. It's not only saw a ghoul. It's wonderful for a number of reasons first of all inexplicably Rose is doing the game in another language broadcast in Spanish like simulcast. She's broadcasting it

What is she saying? Well, she's giving more colorful play-by-play because Spanish is a better language, but the thing about Roy That makes this so wonderful is that he is giving the most basic of information to emergency survivors. Radio listeners. But it's just, everyone knows what's just happened. Look at how everyone went and fled the video.

But Roy is there to explain. It's a bit of the slow report, but also factually correct Right in the middle of it. Everyone settle down. Here's what the score is radio time in place Wow Rose looks hair for a peri yeah, it's tied this game of four 17 seconds left tonight Can I I want to ask you guys if you know those dry cleaning racks You know the dry cleaning that brings the suit back from brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr that he's wearing to all of a sudden having a sports coat a tie and reporting the news as a horrified Rose nearby

Looks like she saw the mushroom But what she's not worried about Iraq she's worried about Iraq what she's seen is far worse than what broadcaster Roy is And you know what she sees what cometh this way you tell me that that's what she sees? What cometh this way? You tell me that that's not what she sees. That is. Oh, God. So good. The little moment, like there was like a little

hesitation fear and I'm trying to figure out if that's when the puck first found Corey Perry. She's like, oh no, they're gonna get a good look here. And then like, cause she kind of screams a little bit beforehand and then it settles in on her face. Horrifying. It does look like that door in Greg Cody's garage just closed in her face.

She looks haunted. It is the same silence, the two like silence that was everywhere is on Rose's face. You do understand that that right there is the whole reason to do the broadcast, correct? Like, we can have all sorts of other accents, noises, talking, voices. It's just, what does that better than sports?

And the answer is the voice of a baby crying at midnight in a cornfield. That's horror right there. That's it, she was going, she was loving her life. 17 seconds to go, I'm speaking Spanish, I'm delighted. Oh my God, what cometh this way? The game is tied tied 17 seconds left just meets the moment no but you heard the tremble in his voice though it was shaky the foundation that house was on stilts my friend that house was not that was shaking he did

get in there and give the facts but it's cuz it's all he was holding on to in the store was this yeah that's one that's one one one click go back go back go back right there yes Dwork's giving it to Dwarves giving me a little something there too. Zoom out there. Yeah. And then go to Roy. What's Roy doing right now? Oh!

Oh! That was me saying they scored. Score. Score. No, I think this was just before the score. No, that's score. That's the O in score right there. Let's play the sound.

I don't think that is the score Yeah, the score is that something being? Wow smile What's with that smile right Dominique was saying that you might have a little bit of sadist in you what like what what's with that smile like the pain No, I was actually literally in pain because my shoulder was hurting. So you smiled.

That's what pain looks like. Randomly, shoulder pain. Maybe he was smiling because he knew he delivered the news. Ha ha ha. You did just hold onto the face. Look at that face from the newsroom. That's a smile, Roy. How is that shoulder pain, Roy? My shoulder was killing me. But Roy, that's not, how is that shoulder pain, Roy?

It was, my shoulder was killing me. But Roy, that's not shoulder, that's pain. He likes it. It's a grimace, I don't know. Yeah, a smile is a grimace. That's a good point by Roy. I just hurt myself again. That is not shoulder pain, Roy.

That was you. You see the face you just made when you just hurt yourself? That's the face that people make when they're in pain. Yes, that's the face of pain, correct. Pain looks like pain, it doesn't look like joy. It's a sharp pain. That's why the teeth are showing. Look at Rose there.

Rose, that is a catastrophe. Yeah. And Dwork, by the way, I don't know how Dwork haunted and talking about, oh no, it's a team of destiny, how he finishes fourth place here on the motion reactions because everyone fell apart and again i will explain roseanne ethan fell out of your screen they just it to recover from that in edmonton to give us a series i know people are tired how much we're talking about hockey but

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You know, I'm a married man. I don't cheat on my wife despite that gratuitous line Stugats I wish you were here my wife. I really miss her No, I don't that's the thing about being married. You know you're not allowed to say I don't miss my wife I've been gone two days. I haven't been gone long enough to miss my wife. I'm sorry I call her 30 seconds you know I'm sorry. I call her. I'm on the phone with her for 30 seconds. You know, what am I? Hello. All right. All right. We'll see you.

All right. And then, you know, I'm going to see her in two days. I was jumping Charlie. Good. This is the Don LeBathardt Show with the Stugarts. Means coming to us from Oklahoma City, where the Thunder have evened up the series 123 to 107. I like the live action feel of this. There's like people around in the background. I mean, I mean, right from the top main story about this game too. All right. So first of all, like my location is right by where the Thunder locker room tunnel is. So, okay. You're going to see a lot of activity in the background.

Great. I'll describe it if necessary. Yes. There you go. Yeah. The Aaron Wiggins just walked by by the way, big hero. Wasn't necessary. Thank you though. Not necessary. Okay. No, you know, but the history of this team all season long has been after a loss, it's a The history of this team all season long has been after a loss. It's a resounding answer right it's not just they don't lose back-to-backs or two games in a row it's They beat your ass right and that's what happened tonight First of all they did a much better job on the on the glass the offensive rebounding opportunities that the Pacers were feasting on in Game one were not Present they still even though the turnover account was a lot lower opportunities that the Pacers were feasting on in game one were not present.

They still, even though the turnover account was a lot lower, they definitely got their way in terms of creating offense off of those turnovers. And the third part, I think this is the most important part SGA got help and the help came from some unexpected sources like an Aaron Wiggins, but also from the people that you kind of rely on. Jalen Williams had a great game and Chet Holmgren had a great game. What I really liked about it was the aggression. He went out there and he, from the opening tap,

was intent on making an impact and he did. I'll give you that. I'll give you Chet. Chet was, you know, a lot more impactful, especially early on, really sort of set the tone. Jalen Williams, when things were close, was not good. And he finished with 5 of 14 for 19 points. But it was exactly like, it's everything that you wanted from a response game. And you just so happened to get the 18 points from Andrew Wiggins in the 12 from Alex Caruso was

there was some conversation you didn't hear this during the broadcast about why Tyrese Halliburton wasn't more aggressive like that a little bit of a head scratch for me that people say that is because he is like we said he's the point guard right he he really gets going if somebody else gets going with them, but it's never really been Tyrese just go get yours and so this idea that he needs to be the tone setter in terms of scoring. Do you think that there's more there from him or do you think this is pretty much

his role the entire time? Well, I mean, I like, I think it's fair to expect him to be aggressive when the office isn't, isn't operating, right? Like I think that's the big thing is that I get it. And, and, you know, we went through this when I was in Phoenix with Steve Nash Where Steve wanted to set people up Steve didn't want to be aggressive offensively, but like I can't remember how many times used to say this on the broadcast Steve Nash senses the moment and the sense is like, you know, it's not working So now I have to unveil like what probably could have been a 25 point per game score

his entire career if that were his everyday mentality. Tyrese has a lot of things that reminds me of Steve Nash in that way and that he wants to impact the game as a facilitator and as someone who's kind of touching different parts of that aren't necessarily captured in a box score. But there has to be that recognition of we don't have it going, I need to do something. Now some people might say, he trusts his teammates, he trusts them to, you know, if he keeps facilitating them, they're gonna get it going.

And like, the crazy thing is, the building was nervous the whole time. Like, yeah, they were up 20, but like every time they would hit like a Niesmith 3 here, or an Anne 1 there from Siakam and it's like, everyone just started getting. So it's like they learned their lesson from not being as alert from game one. But the part about Tyrese though, it's almost like because he knew his team could make a huge comeback at any time that he didn't really have to push the

panic button. It's like when he finally did push the panic button might've been a little bit too late, little too little, too little too late. But also, let's be honest, they got what they came for in terms of the split. So right now they are even as after a pretty tough loss tonight, they're still kind of feeling about like, yeah, we achieved the mission, so to speak.

And you go back to Indiana for two and we'll see how it goes there. Again, Izzy, I got to go back to, would love to see what this series would look like if we were still doing the 232. Yeah, that added a whole lot of elements to like, to break down the series back when it was 232. Like now when it's 22111, it's like, it seems more fair.

So there's not a whole lot of roller coaster-y to go around. It's a little bit more drama back then. But in terms of Indie, like what sort of strategic game plan has to change for them to keep Alex Caruso and Andrew Wiggins from going off? Because obviously they're not gonna stop Shea. Like Shea's gonna get somewhere between 30 and 40 and if you know 40 plus if he's having a great night. But it feels like they can control Jalen Williams. It feels like Chet Holmgren is not really gonna explode for you. So if you can keep those guys off the board,

how do you do that? Yeah, I mean, the simple answer is I don't think you can. I think that's what you live with. If you're Indiana, you say, I live with that. Alice Hulves are going to have to live with that, right? Aaron Wiggins will come in and hit a bunch of threes. I'll live with that. You've got to live with it.

I think the part that's a little bit more difficult is, first of all, it's not like you helped out on Shay much. And I got a shout out Eddie Johnson on this one. He said, I get that the strategy is we're gonna guard Shay one on one, but maybe every once in a while, just to mix it up, just to surprise him. Like, we're just gonna watch this slow march down the drain.

And then the other part of it is, again, like Chet Holmgren really put his imprint down the drain. And then the other part of it is, again, like Chet Hongren really put his imprint on the game. Oh, by the way, I forgot to mention this. The two big lineup, right? What they ended up doing is they basically ran it a bunch when Siakam wasn't on the floor. And so that kind of alleviates some of the issues as far as, hey, if we're going too big, does that mean we've got Chet on Siakam and Siakam being a lot more kind of laterally

mobile might present problems? But in those minutes where those guys ran together, I'm trying to find the details from my kind of like my naked eye, the too big line of what was was tremendous for them tonight. Can you help me out with something? I know I was watching on TV. You were watching it there. What I saw because we talked about the NBA Finals trophy being on the floor or at least the finals logo, some sort of logo graphic

today turned on the game, I mean, and there were two kind of tiny logos on the floor. It seemed like, and it clearly wasn't real. It clearly wasn't put on the floor, right? You didn't see logos on the floor, right? Okay. I'm looking at the floor right now. There are no logos on it. It seemed like they didn't want to make them any bigger than the advertisements that were on the floor that were showing on the floor because they weren't bigger than any of those. And then oddly,

and they're also both facing the same direction, which people, when you're watching on TV, you're just like, well, obviously you should have one fate. The crowd should be facing the crowd on each side. So it should be the opposite way. If you look at, if you look at like, so right now I'm looking at their floor. I believe this is true of every NBA for, hey, how's it going? They're good. So every NBA, every NBA floor has, uh's it going? So every NBA every NBA floor has all the signage, all the logos, everything all face

the cameras. Okay, so if you're sitting on the bench, I'm sitting pretty much behind where the Thunder bench was. And so the TV cameras are there because the TV cameras always facing the benches. All the things on the floor are going to be facing the cameras. So that was accurate for them to put them both facing that way. Okay.

The part that's crazy is I did see like a little video, I think Arash Markazi posted it. And he said, how can you tell, it was like his capture was, how can you tell it's digitally imposed? And you know, they're waving like the OKC flag, and then you see it kind of just pop up superimposed on the flag and superimposed on other things.

That's the problem with that kind of makeshift style kind of solution is you're bound to run into those kind of issues. You made it worse and oddly late in the game when it was pretty much out of hand. I know this because I switched the game from the big TV to the little TV. Then they went with the little TV. Yeah. No, the big TV was, uh, the last of us. I'm trying to catch up on that.

And so yeah, the little TV and I saw the logo on there, the finals and script. And I was like, well, that's weird because if people were wondering if it was real and maybe had a question mark in their head, now they know for sure during that time out, they didn't just switch it to the finals logo. I don't really know what they were doing there. It's probably the biggest mistake Adam Silver's ever made. So you, you switch, you switch to the last of us. You missed the Johnny Furphy minutes.

No, oddly enough, I saw it. He felt Shay, which is amazing. Like first seconds on the floor and Furphy. Are we sure that's a real day? Dude, it's, it's like fake murphy right yes it's exactly that uh back to the basketball i mean what do we think of the series now because like we've gotten the shaken off the rust we've gotten the first two games out of the way indiana the first game the crazy comeback sort of masked the idea that it doesn't seem they don't really seem to have a consistent offensive flow right so do you see that changing in any way when they get to India? No, no, this is this is how they've been all year long So I don't see anything changing and again, like this is the part where

you know, everyone loves to overreact to a game one loss, but Yeah, man. Okay. See over time is going to prove itself to be the better team because that's how this thing works That's why we don't play single elimination in the playoffs. While we have a little bit of time, I did want to shout out Don Nelson won the Chuck Daly Lifetime Achievement Award. It's the award that the NBA Coaches Association gives out.

There was two really important things that came out of this press conference. Number one, this is the first time for him on the mainland in seven years. And the first time he's wearing shoes in six years. Wow. The shoes he wore are Luca Donch's Jordans. And he said, I'm wearing them in protest of the trade. Yes. So that's one. The other thing, and this is huge. He told a story about how they drafted dirt, and how they flew them him into a secret workout nobody knew and they tried to

hide them and they're worried and on draft day like they made the trade obviously to trade it down from six to nine with Milwaukee. Now here's the part I didn't know. He said my favorite player in the draft was Paul Pierce. We all thought Paul Pierce would be a top three pick and wouldn't even be like an option. So imagine their surprise when at nine, Dirk's on the board, which is their guy, the guy that they would do all these pains to kind of hide and stash basically. But also Paul Pierce is on the board. And so Don Nelson is like him and Don, he's still Donnie like, oh, what do we do? And Donnie was like, look, man, we kind of did all this to get this German kid.

Like we can't back out now. And that's how Dirk Nowitzki ended up to be a Maverick and Paul Pierce ended up being a Celtic choice. Let's be honest, made the right choice. Can I tell you my experience from watching Don Nelson get the award, man, they played this a still shot or it wasn't a still shot. It was a video of him and Rick Carlisle accepting the award and they were sitting there and they kept the camera on him for about 30 seconds. Too long. I mean, it was just sounds like, all right, let's get the camera off of Mr. Don Nelson here and then making matters worse because I mean, I don't know

what the hell Don was wearing. Making matters worse, they cut to him in the crowd. He had some popcorn food all in the corner of his mouth. And then they kept on that one for longer than they should have to. I wouldn't be too happy with these producers and directors if I was Don Nelson today.