The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 2: Phrogging (feat. David Samson)

Episode Date: July 17, 2025

Dan discovers a new term, and the crew determines the difference between a coach who can't win "a" big game vs. a coach who can't win "the" big game. Plus, The Pitch Clock returns from its All-Star br...eak with Chris going for a 3-peat over Jeremy in Taylor's Trivia and David Samson joining Jeremy to preview the 2nd half of the MLB season. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is the Dan LeBattor Show with the StuGuts Podcast. I learned a phrase that I had not known before and I'm curious how many of you know what I'm about to say is. The word is called frogging and it's spelled P-H. Do you guys know what P-H frogging is? Any of you? I don't. No.
Starting point is 00:00:26 It is, and I'm glad I don't feel alone with this because I'm like, what am I watching here? It was a television show, frogging, put it on the poll, a Juju at LeBittard show. Do you know what frogging is spelled with a pH? It is the act of living inside the home of others without them knowing you're living there. That a home is large enough that people can live
Starting point is 00:00:49 in the walls, in the attic, in the basement, in places where you and your family don't go and human beings are squatting in your house, basically, and you don't know that they are there. And I didn't know how common it was. It's like in Kanto. Bruno's in the walls the whole time. Spoiler alert.
Starting point is 00:01:09 Yeah. We don't talk about him. Can you imagine the idea of this and can you look up for me any information on this, on what the circumstances? Obviously there would be some desperation involved. And there are a number of times with television shows like My Weird Addiction,
Starting point is 00:01:26 where I think I wanna watch something and then I start watching it and it's something I really don't wanna be watching just because these pimple shows, pimple popping shows or whatever, some of these things that get popular because they have some visual shock value and you realize I'm curious, but I'm not that curious.
Starting point is 00:01:42 Frogging seems like a desperate and sad situation, but I didn't know if there was any sort of voyeuristic, I didn't end up watching any of this show, whether there was any sort of voyeuristic thrill or some sort of weirdness that somebody or multiple people were accentuating by trying to get away with living in the home of someone else in order to make their life have a higher energy to it.
Starting point is 00:02:06 Safe to say that people are inventing new ways to please themselves and I feel like that's probably one of them. So you think this is erotica? That has to be. That frogging is erotica? There's got to be a subsection of the people that do it. They're like, yeah, this is it for me. I would think that Stugatsch just as a lover of the scam and as an aficionado and a connoisseur of the scam, that he would appreciate the degree of difficulty of trying to live in somebody else's home without them knowing that you're living there. Now, you understand these are people that are just coming
Starting point is 00:02:36 and going to sleep in your home, mostly I would think. I don't, like, they're not- Or they're just seeing if they can do it and get away with it. And not having parties or anything. I found an example of like celebrities who have had this happen. J.Lo once had somebody break into and live in a pool house for a full week before they were caught by security.
Starting point is 00:02:53 Brad Pitt had a lady who was caught after 10 hours. So yeah, I mean, it can rain. These are stalkers, and this is obviously that, in the stalking instances, those are mental illness situations, but I know nothing about this. I'm just coming upon it, and I haven't even watched the television show, The Watch,
Starting point is 00:03:11 so I'm not familiar with any details here. It just seems horrifying to think that that's something that could happen in your home. Especially a manor, a manor has plenty of room for frog. A mansion, not as much. Manor and a mansion, I think, are things that, I think both of those things. I think this is the, if it's a complaint to be had,
Starting point is 00:03:30 it must be a complaint by only people with big homes. I don't think that you can get away with this. Like a 1,200 square foot house and you're like, hey, what are you doing here? Guy's like, oh shit, my bad. This has reality competition honestly written all over it. I feel like what you gotta do is you go to a neighborhood and you say, oh, we're rebuilding your park
Starting point is 00:03:47 and we just need to have cameras in your home or whatever. You get them to sign off on the consent and then you have four houses and four contestants and you see who can live in someone else's home the longest. But you trick them through lies, essentially. But there has to be a manor in that neighborhood, because you're right about that. Yeah, manors make it harder.
Starting point is 00:04:07 There's no neighborhoods though with a manor. There are no neighborhoods with manors. I mean, manors are essentially neighborhoods. I wouldn't do it with a manor. I'd do it like in a regular home. Then you go in there, if you're the guy, you do the old trick that Tony's talked about. At the time, you walk around with a ladder,
Starting point is 00:04:20 like, no, no, I'm in production. I'm stuck. I'm like, okay, yeah, perfect. Over here? Yeah, yeah, okay, let's go over here. It makes sense, but it seems guest houses and pool houses seem to be the biggest targets here How do you get in between the walls with nobody knowing? Ask Bruno that seemed that seems like it'd be difficult like I'm gonna take off a piece of drywall I'm like shimmy back in there and be like, all right
Starting point is 00:04:40 Like apartment in there, huh? I assume through the attic. Yes, the attic, I guess. Or events. Crawl space. Basements, places that aren't terribly occupied. We'll get more information on this and bring it to you as it develops. In Miami, the guy's cooked in the attic, by the way. There's no way he's making it. Oh my God, you're just gonna find it.
Starting point is 00:04:55 Frogging does not exist here. If there's a group of froggers, I don't know what they would call frogs, whatever they are, a colony of froggers out there, they could actually pull off this idea for a reality show without actually having it as a show. Like if you're gonna defraud people, just buy a camera and say that that's what you're doing.
Starting point is 00:05:15 And then see how long you can do this while convincing these people that they're living on a reality show. I have to admit, if I caught what I thought was somebody living in my house and they were like, you're on a game show I'd be like, oh shit. Cool. Yeah, we're the cameras Not how long have you been watching me how long have you lived in my drywall he'd be happy when's it air
Starting point is 00:05:35 Why you guys make this so perverted? Maybe this person thinks perverted. I don't know. I assume they're watching me take a poop, you know When's it air says Chris Cody. Chris, I left yesterday laughing at your contention that it's a slippery slope, that we are very close to going from interviewing Clayton Kershaw while he's throwing a pitch to ending up invading his privacy in the bedroom.
Starting point is 00:06:01 Who wouldn't watch that? Like Paul Skeens? I mean. What do you mean, who would watch that? Wait a minute. I think Paul Skeens would watch Clayton Kershaw, or you would watch Paul Skeens? Why Paul Skeens?
Starting point is 00:06:12 The latter. Yeah. Oh, gotcha. Hold on a second. He's right about Skeens. Hold on a second. So just, I'd like for everyone to absorb that Chris Cody is saying that the slippery slope is,
Starting point is 00:06:23 if I talk to Clayton Kershaw while he's throwing a pitch in an interview in game, how far are we really from invading Clayton Kershaw's privacy in the bedrooms? Chris is claiming, the claim is that we've gotten so intimate with the athlete that our next stop is Zach Wheeler's rummaging through his toiletries, that we are gonna keep going into the privacy of athletes when all I want is more and more access. I want all of the walls to fall on access so that we can talk to players all the
Starting point is 00:06:56 time when they're playing. Don't you always listen to those trash talking videos that in basketball where they do the lip reading for you or they provide the subtitles so you can actually hear what these players are saying to each other and then it's crueler than you thought it was? Yeah, I always try to read the lips or I watch the videos of other people reading the lips.
Starting point is 00:07:19 Sometimes they're wrong, oftentimes. A lot of it's confirmation bias. We saw that with with the Chelsea Cup celebration where people were wrong on what Reese James was saying to the president. I think we're pretty far. I'm just gonna go out on a limb. I think we're pretty far from that.
Starting point is 00:07:34 From watching Clayton Kershaw have sex. Yes, I think. Imagine though, you go in and it's All-Star Game Week and they mic you up, you're like, what's this for? And it's like, should've been paying attention to the CBA meetings. It's, it's weird that you went straight to Skeens and you're wearing a pirate's hat. It's weird.
Starting point is 00:07:50 I like Paul Skeens. He just likes Paul Skeens. Yeah. Who doesn't? Let's say. Only Paul Skeens. Howdy folks. It's Mike Ryan. If you were listening to the show just a couple of days ago, you know that
Starting point is 00:07:58 Jeremy came up with the top five. Breath of fresh air type of list. A really refreshing feeling. And on that list, Jeremy, help me out. I mean, that first sip of a Miller Lite at the barbecue on a hot day, crack it open. That sound, that sound ultra satisfying. And then that first sip, it hits. And yes, while it's hot outside, as it is presently, cools your body down, it hits a little different down here in South Florida. But as someone that had Miller Lite north of the border, and basically football tailgates as the leaves turn, there really isn't a bad time to turn into Miller time. Next time we should do a top
Starting point is 00:08:38 five times to have Miller time. I like where your head's at because it's every time. That's right. Every time. Morning time. Well, scratch that. it's every time. That's right. Every time. Morning time, well, scratch that. Nah, morning time. Morning time if you need it. If you're on vacation. If you're on vacation.
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Starting point is 00:10:01 Don LeBretard. And I feel like Rebecca, I can't pronounce her last name, but she's a great kid. Androgy. Androgy, that's why you're good, man. I gotta tell you, I feel like her jumps, her vaults were better.
Starting point is 00:10:13 She stuck the landing on both. She should have won the goal. The only reason she didn't is because her name is not Simone Biles. Your thoughts? Stugats. No. This is the Don Lebatard Show with the Stugats.
Starting point is 00:10:33 Let's play some video here that I wanted to get everyone's thoughts on. I'm wondering if for any of you, Ryan Day winning the championship with Ohio State changes anything about how you think about coach, leader, greatness, knows more than everyone else, all the stuff that got Brian Kelly hired at LSU. And Brian Kelly is very close to making the dangerous trek from everyone thought he was great and respected at something. And then he got unmasked in front of people because we associate him with being like
Starting point is 00:11:09 the first guy of this age to be like, I'm the monster free agent, and I'm gonna go from Notre Dame to LSU, and I'm gonna show you how much college football's gonna change. He didn't win a championship at Notre Dame, but he did get Notre Dame back, so I guess you're right. Did Phil Jackson get that?
Starting point is 00:11:25 Like champion guy to kind of joke at the end? Yeah, a little bit. Yeah, I mean, they were taking pictures of him on the subway asleep on the way to work, but Phil Jackson got that not as a coach. Like that was as an executive. It's not while he was still a coach. Nobody questions whether Phil Jackson's a great coach.
Starting point is 00:11:41 He was terrible as an executive. But I want to play this for you because Brian Kelly, when I see this video of Brian Kelly and specifically the suit he's wearing, okay, it's meant to give off something that I feel like Brian Kelly has been trying to give off for a while. And it sold for a while,
Starting point is 00:11:57 but it doesn't work so well if you're not winning. And so, and I think some of this is super silly, right? In the modern age, you're still, urban mire looking down and agents who are representing seventeen and eight-year-olds when all these guys are are agents for seventeen and eight years eighteen-year-olds are someone who takes a lot more of the commission off of the talents of others but we assign to them a strength the leadership of wisdom as if those young kids couldn't do any of that without the great wisdom of brian kelly but i want to play this video for you and and wonder aloud with you guys how ridiculous you find all of this the
Starting point is 00:12:32 pomp and circumstance of the self-important coach who's here to give off leadership and is pink and bloated and uh... doesn't know when to talk and when not to talk because the band is too loud. I'm not starting until that's over. Go tigers. Love it. He's kind of right though. What is he supposed to do? Just wait. I mean, that's not even the most embarrassing one. When Steve Sarkeesian came out,
Starting point is 00:13:11 they played the Texas A&M fight song. But do any of you change your opinion on Brian Kelly just based on the last couple of years? Yeah, because he's so likable now. Has your opinion changed? Yeah, I thought he used to be mean and crotchety, but now like, wow, he's just a totally changed him for me. Really nice guy.
Starting point is 00:13:30 I see him dance on that spinning platform. Yeah. He's a hoot. What is the appraisal gonna be of Ryan Day? Is he now somebody who's gonna make the trek from joke to champion, who's thought of? It depends if he wins another one. But is that how we're doing it?
Starting point is 00:13:44 Because he had, all of us can agree, right, that going into last season, none of us would say that Ryan Day was someone who won memorable games that resulted in championships. Not national championships, Ryan Day was questioned for not being Urban Meyer. Urban Meyer wins with his third string quarterback but ryan day assembled
Starting point is 00:14:06 what was by the end of the season last season irrefutably empirically no argument no one's saying anything is not about a call it's not about a controversy it's not about a game during the season oh yeah that's the best team i saw in college football he assembled it it is it is team as someone who never won big games and, before last season, had been only associated with not winning big games. I mean, he lost to Michigan last season. Yeah, it took a 12-team playoff
Starting point is 00:14:33 for him to win the championship. Had it not been an expanded championship, he may have lost his job last year. So where are we with the appraisals there on what the genius is, as I preface it by saying, here's Brian Kelly, the guy who started the revolution of what? An SEC team can buy Notre Dame's coach when Notre Dame doesn't feel like the people who are at Notre Dame for the reasons that they're at Notre Dame, that any of those allegiances
Starting point is 00:14:59 can be bought. He started what was a cavalcade of this is going to be a hell of a lot more mercenary than you think. And then after that came all the we'll pay $5 million for a left tackle. But Brian Kelly, as CEO of your new business, wearing that suit is meant to convey presidential leadership. And he does not to me. Really?
Starting point is 00:15:21 I mean, that's just that's his style. All that's missing is winning and then it'll get glorified. Well the ring is what's missing. He's done plenty of winning. I mean. Yeah, winning there and winning there is different than most standards, but they got a ton of resources. They get good players. They should be in the conversation. If they're not in the conversation, he will get fired because he's an outsider there and there is just this air around him that people don't like him. Stugots, I'm of the understanding that Nick Saban will have a forever legacy, at least
Starting point is 00:15:53 in part because of what it is that he did at Alabama and in that conference. But Brian Kelly at LSU as highest paid, sexiest coaching leadership thing that you can get. Brian Kelly not winning so far at LSU and not putting together a team of athletes that are overwhelming at LSU and show it every weekend. You're really underachieving if you're not competing for the national championship at a school that made Les Miles and Ed Orgeron champions.
Starting point is 00:16:31 That's funny. And is responsible in one of those instances for the only team that I would consider as great as the 2001 Miami Hurricanes, the Joe Burrow LSU team, that was so overwhelming that that's what the standard is at LSU, that even if overwhelming that that's what the standard is at LSU, that even if you have a professional byasal like Les Miles or Ed Orgeron in charge, you're just going to be better than everyone the way Urban Meyer was when he did it with his third string quarterback.
Starting point is 00:16:54 But Brian Kelly has fallen behind, Stu Gott's like, LSU was ahead the moment that it got Brian Kelly to be ahead of NIL with l with ellis you was the business when it's the championships of less miles in ed orgeron that you have to build on you don't even have to be good at it you can be a joke you can eat grass on the field and we can understand what you're saying you can be a joke here yeah this is where saving got a start but what he
Starting point is 00:17:22 built it so enduring and what what Urban Meyer built is so enduring that even Ryan Day can grift on it if you wanna keep considering him someone who can't win big games, even if he's a champion, because he lost to Michigan last year and needed the 12-game playoff in order to win the championship.
Starting point is 00:17:37 Well, he's more than a champion. He also has, like, if it's not the highest, it's one of the highest career win percentages as a head coach. He's a good coach, he just, why he would have been in jeopardy of losing his job is he just can't beat Michigan, which is their biggest rival.
Starting point is 00:17:50 So help me, because you guys were talking earlier and you made Andy Reid a joke when he was in Philadelphia, when he was in multiple Super Bowls and he was made fun of. But he was a joke. I think he was in one Super Bowl with Philadelphia. People would say he could win the big one. Okay.
Starting point is 00:18:03 Definitely the narrative. He was routinely in the NFC Championship game, and I think he only got there once yes Not not disputing that there were all of these questions Just stopping you guys on joke like stopping you a couple of notes I'm also stopping you on him making multiple Super Bowls He only made one also the spectrum of closer to Joker champion. Yeah, and he was starting to replicate that formula a little bit on Kansas City.
Starting point is 00:18:28 And the first Super Bowl that he won down here in Miami, the narrative around it was, gotta win one for Andy. Everyone was saying, oh, we really want Coach Andy to win a Super Bowl here. It wasn't like, wow, Patrick Mahomes could be this all-time great, this could be the start of a run. It's like, let's try to get Andy a Super Bowl here
Starting point is 00:18:44 so he can shake all of this criticism off of him. He was always Andy Reid was always expected to contend for the championship because they were playing for a lot of championship conference championships and my bad he's only got one Super Bowl appearance but I don't think of joke at any point criticized yes and also getting this one And this I think is more of a joke than calling Andy Reid a joke the very idea of can't win the big one We thought that of Ryan Day and well, he saw us and won the big one. Okay, if you're gonna say okay So if that's the big one, that's the big one
Starting point is 00:19:19 I just changed where the big one but Andy Andy Reid didn't learn Andy Reid didn't learn how to win the big one, right? He didn't learn how to win the big one right he didn't learn how to go back to the house for us yet and so he's now someone who can win the big one even though to me it's a silly thing to say about an nfl head coach wehend i saw less miles and at orgeron win championships like you it's it's not you have this ability to win a big game because it's an ability that you take with you, like Brian Kelly, put in your briefcase and take from Notre Dame to LSU. I think these are all subjective things but
Starting point is 00:19:54 there are certain data points and you could have to boost your argument. For example, I think you could be someone that is a Super Bowl champion and still have that reputation. Look at Sean Payton with the New Orleans Saints. He won a Super Bowl and he lost so many games as a double-digit favorite in the playoffs. And I think part of what was going on with Andy Reid was they were hosting a lot of these NFC championship games when they weren't, they were on the road against an Arizona Cardinal team that most people thought wasn't good. They were favorites in many of them. They were finding ways to lose these games and oftentimes in big games he would have
Starting point is 00:20:29 a botch down the final stretch in crunch time where you're wondering aloud, what is this guy doing? He would magnify those moments by mismanagement, which is why there was a fair narrative until he got the greatest quarterback maybe ever and also possibly learn from multiple mistakes on his resume. We've seen this. People are capable of it. Mario Krizbal, terrible at time management, got other people on his staff to do that. And if you look at the analytics last year, pretty decent in crunch time moments when it came to analytics and clock management. What a briefcase. I mean, what an amazing thing.
Starting point is 00:21:06 Hey, what's in the briefcase? My ability to win big games? It's the Pulp Fiction. What's in your briefcase? Briefcase, yes. Put it on the poll, at LeBretard's show. You got that briefcase, Brable. Was the thing in the Pulp Fiction briefcase,
Starting point is 00:21:20 Brian Kelly's ability to win big games? Or ability to win, I guess is what I should say. I, it's- When the big one did. I just, I don't believe it's an accurate or fair criticism to label at much of anyone when all they have to do is win a big game to disprove that they didn't have that ability.
Starting point is 00:21:41 There's a big difference between a big game and the big game I'm confusing your confusion when when the cliche is man that guy can't win a big game and then they win the big game I see saying that Well, I'm not saying he can win the big games I'm saying you can't win the big game when he does a singular thing. I shut up You never shut up I shut up. You never shut up.
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Starting point is 00:22:31 Your cold brew is ready at Starbucks. Don LeBretard. Punctuate this segment with what is your strike three call. Strike one would be, strike! And then you stand up and you give a good point to the right. Stugats. That's the same for strike two. But strike three you get down low, you got your hands behind the catcher, alright? The right arm goes up into the air. Hyah! And then you finish
Starting point is 00:22:52 it with the punch. The right arm flings way up into the air. Hyah! Hyah! I wish I could see that. It's terrible! The audio's great! This is the Dunlapatar Show with the Stugats! Welcome to the Pitch Clock! Here's the pitch. A two-part baseball segment. Combining a nostalgic baseball trivia game and an interview with an expert. This is the Pitch Clock.
Starting point is 00:23:24 We are back from the all-star break with this episode is the Pitch Clock. We are back from the All-Star break with this episode of the Pitch Clock. I'm gonna whoop your ass for the third straight week. You gotta say the thing, though. No Harry Carrey this week. No, whoa. Whooping your ass. Austin. He's rocking.
Starting point is 00:23:35 Holy cow. Going for a three-peat. Wow, he is going for a three-peat. Hi, Robudda. Yeah, that's Chris. Just for the people out there that really wanted to hear. They do. Well, Taylor's back, Taylor's here, he has trivia for us. Sun kiss. Look at him. Look at him
Starting point is 00:23:48 He looks beautiful back from Tahoe. Look at this guy the sun shining on his face and This episode is brought to you by the Beloit skycarp. That's the hat that I'm wearing right now. Go Skycarp go anyway, Taylor Why don't you go ahead and tell us what our trivia game is for today. In front of you guys you see a year and a team. You have a list of all-star game MVPs from 1990 to 2009 famously. No MVP in 2002 from the tie. Three strikes and you're out format. To try to help you guys out, if you get stuck before a guess guess I'm offering a
Starting point is 00:24:30 Lifeline each if you tell me the team you want to know I'll tell you the catcher Pitcher infielder outfielder for that that certain guess who goes first. Please say me Chris first and then we'll go Jeremy Jeff Coon at 1995 Mr. Marlin is correct. God damn it. That's the only one I was sure about. All right, I'm gonna go, 2001 Orioles, Cal Ripken Jr. It is Cal Ripken Jr.
Starting point is 00:25:06 Let's go! 97! Manny Ramirez! That's gonna be the first strike for Chris. They played the Marlins in the World Series that year. I'm gonna try not to go... like overboard on anything here, right? So I'm gonna just try to stick with a guy who I know had an amazing season in this year 1999 Red Sox Pedro Martinez. It is Pedro Martinez. Nice. Pitcher MVP?
Starting point is 00:25:33 I think back then they sometimes let them throw more than like eight pitches. I might be wrong. Different era. I don't know what he did but he might have thrown three innings. Our 2025 Major League Baseball expert on this week's episode of The Pitch Clock is David Sampson of Nothing Personal with David Sampson. David, welcome back to The Pitch Clock. I appreciate you joining us, and I'm excited to dive into all things baseball here,
Starting point is 00:25:59 because it's All-Star Week. We're about to get to the second half, but I wanna start with the All-Star festivities. The home run derby, the All-Star game, there're about to get to the second half, but I wanna start with the All-Star festivities. The home run derby, the All-Star game, there were claims on our show on Wednesday that it was the best day in the history of baseball. Everybody loved how the All-Star game went. I wanna ask you, your three favorite moments
Starting point is 00:26:19 from the All-Star festivities. My number one favorite moment was the end of the sixth inning and the way they honored Hank Aaron and Homer number 715. On July 15th, they did this. When you look at that honor and people forget what Hank Aaron went through as he was chasing Babe Ruth, it's such an important thing because we normally only talk about Jackie Robinson
Starting point is 00:26:46 and Hank Aaron did not have it easy by any stretch. And that honor was well worth it. That's one. Two, boy, do I love access. I love giving the fans an opportunity to hear what's going on between pitcher and catcher. And when Clayton Kershaw was interviewed and the moment he had when he told Smoltzy
Starting point is 00:27:06 that he didn't have a cutter. It was in the middle of his windup. It was incredible. I'm all in. I heard Chris Cody criticizing that. Give me a break. It's the greatest thing that can happen because it's an exhibition for crying out loud.
Starting point is 00:27:19 And then I would say my third favorite thing was when I was able to watch the swing off and be right, having been on Dan show the day before and said, you know, all these players bail, they're gone by the end of the game. And people saying, Oh, what do you know? You're just Samson. Meanwhile, judge Otani Raleigh, gone. Yeah, like totally a Cunha.
Starting point is 00:27:44 See you later. Left the bill. So that is why you had our guy, Kyle Stowers do it, whichaleigh, gone. Like totally, Acuna, see you later. Left the building. So that is why you had our guy, Kyle Stowers, do it, which was fun for him, great home run that he hit. A really, really special event, and that's not even including Cal Raleigh winning the home run derby, which was so special. But the first half of the season is over, so it's time to sort of look ahead here, David.
Starting point is 00:28:01 So I wanna know which teams and races toward the post season are you most looking forward to watching in the second half of this season as we set the table? Well, there's two races. I was a national league East guy for all 18 of my years in baseball. So I hate the Phillies and I hate the Mets.
Starting point is 00:28:20 And the fact is one of them has to win. And so what I'm eagerly looking forward to is who loses because one of them is not gonna win the division and they keep going back and forth. It's fun to watch. And the other one, it's unbelievable. My hometown, Milwaukee, Wisconsin, the Brewers are maybe the top one, two or three,
Starting point is 00:28:39 certainly on the podium of the best stories of the season. And that's without Mizorowski. And can Milwaukee keep going? Will they get help at the deadline? Will Yellich, our main man, Yelly, stay healthy for the rest of the year? He's having a great year. He's so good.
Starting point is 00:28:55 Their pitching staff, I think they need, I went on Milwaukee radio the other day and they said, what do we need? I said, you need CC Sabathia. And he's going into the hall of fame, July 25th, he's not available. But that's a reference to when the Brewers made that trade at the deadline to get and rent Sabathia.
Starting point is 00:29:13 You could be looking at a really, really good team who could do some damage and maybe, maybe get Milwaukee its first ever World Series. I can't even dream that big, but I think that that's a race I'm watching. I love that. That's about the reference, because I also it's not correct, but it felt like he also hit 15 home runs in his like eight
Starting point is 00:29:32 starts to back when when pitchers could hit. I will go with why no one 2000 New York Yankee. Derek Jeter. Yeah, right. All-star game MVP, World Series MVP. I believe the only player to do that. Derek Jeter. I think I know this one. 2006 Texas Rangers, Michael Young.
Starting point is 00:29:57 Jeremy's flexing now, it is Michael Young. That's like, the option for 04 was there. I'll tell you why, cause that's the year that Uglah made three errors and it went extra innings. And I believe Michael Young had the game winning either a walk-off or a base hit, because Michael Young was the man. All you can say there. Wow.
Starting point is 00:30:16 Why is this the best I've done? I'm going to fall apart and Chris is going to end up winning. But I feel pretty good about that. This one just kind of feels... Alright I'm just gonna pull one out of my... I'm just gonna go with what I thought of. I'm gonna go 2003 angel... Garrett Anderson?
Starting point is 00:30:40 That's who I was gonna guess but it might not be. It's Garrett Anderson! It is! Nice pull dude! That's who I was gonna guess, but it might not be. It's Garrett Anderson. It is, nice pull dude. That's great. There's another outfielder. Garrett Anderson, that's awesome. All right, so there's an 05. 05 is. So I have one strike, does Jeremy have any strikes?
Starting point is 00:30:56 I don't have any strikes yet. I'm gonna go 09 raise Evan Longoria. Ooh, I have a different name right there. That's gonna be Jeremy's first strike It's not long ago Then it has to be I'm just gonna assume that they didn't let James Shields pitch three innings in that game. That's not my guess I'm saying I'm not guessing him. My guess is I'll go see I'm so terrible at this
Starting point is 00:31:19 He might have switched teams by this point Carl Crawford. That's a good guess. Trust your gut. It is right. It had to be one or the other. Right, that's why I wrote down Crawford. I'm glad you went with one. Shouldn't have done that. Got greedy. The lifeline would have told you, Al Fielder. So many Ranger, Oriole, MVP's.
Starting point is 00:31:40 So I have a thought. That's good. It's good to have those. Okay, 2005 Baltimore Orioles, Rafael Palmeira. That's gonna be Jeremy's second strike. Strike! What a mistake. I want to talk to you about the trade deadline, because we're just a couple of weeks away at this point,
Starting point is 00:31:58 and it's time to start paying attention. We actually, on Wednesday, saw one of the first moves, although a very, very, very low level move is Adam Frazier was traded from Pittsburgh to Kansas City. Obviously not a big splash, but we've got a lot ahead at the deadline. So I wanna ask you, what do you think is most likely to happen at the deadline?
Starting point is 00:32:19 What's one of those things we should focus on? And what's your boldest prediction of something that could happen at the deadline? The deadline is such an important time as you try to figure out what your team is. But with the expanded wild card, there's very few teams out of it. And even the Marlins could argue they're not out of it,
Starting point is 00:32:36 even though they have so many teams to jump over. They're not gonna do anything differently, but they feel pressure to. And so will Sandy get traded? That is something to watch for. I think the more interesting story is what the Braves and Diamondbacks are gonna do. Let's go one at a time.
Starting point is 00:32:51 The Braves have all their guys locked up long-term and they have been hugely disappointing to say the least. And the question is their GM, Alex Anthopoulos, so good. They won a World Series in 19 with under the radar deadline moves. Two, the Diamondbacks, when they signed Corbin Burns away from Baltimore, they really wanted to compete in that NL West
Starting point is 00:33:14 with San Fran, San Diego, and the Dodgers. And it just hasn't worked out. They've gotta sell, but their owner, Mr. Octogenarian, Ken Kendrick, does not like the idea of selling and resetting. So what they could be looking at, similarly to Baltimore, could be a buy and sell strategy, where they make some moves both for tomorrow, but they can argue also for today.
Starting point is 00:33:39 So I'm watching them, and one more, Jeremy, our friends in Boston, the Red Sox. Craig Breslow said, "'Our team's better without Devers.'" And I agreed. them and one more Jeremy, our friends in Boston, the Red Sox. Yeah. Craig Breslow said, our team's better without Devers. And I agreed. Well, John Henry needs to give Craig Breslow the ability to add at the deadline, winning 10 in a row, going into the All-Star break. They have a tough schedule out of the break, a tough nine game stretch.
Starting point is 00:33:59 But that said, they are not just in the race, they are the race and looking at to see what they do. That's going gonna be big, big story. Absolutely. You're gonna love this. Adnan's World Series predictions, when we had him on right before opening day, were the Arizona Diamondbacks and the Kansas City Royals. A wildly wrong prediction,
Starting point is 00:34:19 something that felt fun in the moment, but there's about a 0% chance that that ultimate, if that happens, it would take a miracle. So I'm going to talk to you now as we head into the second half of the year and not only ask you your World Series prediction of who's ultimately going to get there, but I also wanna know a couple of tight races
Starting point is 00:34:41 in the NL and the AL for MVP. What are your predictions at this moment for AL and NL MVP and the representatives in the World Series? I was trying to think of how to make the NL MVP race tight. And I was thinking if Otani doesn't take another at bat, that's it, he's out for the year. Something happens, he has a third Tommy John.
Starting point is 00:35:01 Would he still win the MVP? I think he may. So I'm not sure that race is tight, but the judge Raleigh race is a bit tighter than you think, though I don't know that Raleigh has a chance to do a, can keep doing what he's doing. But every time I say that, he hits two more home runs. But if Seattle wins that division somehow, comes back,
Starting point is 00:35:21 and Raleigh breaks the record and gets 62 or more home runs tying judge for all-time American League home run for a season. But if judge hits 355 with 60 home runs and the Yankees are the Yankees, he's going to win the MVP. Those numbers are so silly. If he doesn't, then I would say that Raleigh has a chance and that's a fun race to watch. In terms of World Series, my prediction before the season started was that the Red Sox would win the pennant. Wow. And make it to the World Series. So I'm feeling not as good as I was
Starting point is 00:35:53 when the season started, no question, but I'm not gonna change now. So my prediction is that the Red Sox win the pennant and they end up facing the big bad Dodgers. It's such a horrible pick. The National League is so deep and the Dodgers are absolutely fallible. They are not the juggernaut that everyone thought they would be. They're not going to win 175 games, just like the Rockies aren't going to lose 175. And I'm going to say Dodgers Red Sox.
Starting point is 00:36:21 Boy, Yankees Dodgers, Red Sox Dodgers, and back to back years would sure be a good thing for Major League Baseball. David, thank you so much for joining us on this episode. We appreciate all the information. I'm going to be holding you to these predictions when Pete Crow Armstrong somehow, someway, becomes the NL MVP with somehow another 50-50 season in baseball, we'll see.
Starting point is 00:36:45 I don't think it's happening, neither do you, that's fine. Let's get back to our game with Chris. Oh, for Alex Rodriguez, Rangers. Okay, is that? That is going to be Chris's second strike. Thank God, that was what I was just talking myself through. He was on the Yankees by that point, right? Well, poop you then. Right, he was on the Yankees by that point right well poop you then right he was on the team that collapsed are you asking him he's not gonna tell you yeah oh I guess that's right I guess that's fair I
Starting point is 00:37:13 guess that's fair but I guess it wouldn't make a difference I would well to me it would but you already did all right there's no other spot. Okay. Both at two strikes. Okay, I'd like to use my lifeline on the 2008 Red Sock. Outfielder. All right, I'm gonna make the guess that first came to mind and it might be wrong It might end up being a name. We've used a lot here But I'm gonna guess Jacoby Ellsbury Chris Cody wins it is not Jacoby. Oh manny don't I have to get one here cuz you went first this is started
Starting point is 00:38:03 I'm so angry. I want to do this last round though, because I'm feeling myself. I won. I'm feeling myself. 97. Let me do my lifeline here. 97 in a guardian. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:38:12 Nice. Catcher. Oh. Sandy Alomar. Yeah, it is. That's correct. Yeah. All right.
Starting point is 00:38:20 I know that 97. Can I start going through what my other guesses would have been? 1990 Rangers. Is that Nolan Ryan? Nope. Julio Franco. Julio, okay. 92 Ms, Edgar Martinez or Ken Griffey Jr.
Starting point is 00:38:36 Ken Griffey Jr. The 91 Oriole, Cal Ripken Jr. I'm not gonna lie, I thought the Ms was the Milwaukee Brewers. 93 Kirby Puckett. Kirby Puckett. Yep, I was gonna guess that. Graves is that? Chipper.
Starting point is 00:38:47 It's gonna be Chipper or it's gonna be Maddox? Neither. Really? Marquis Grisawg. Wow. Crime dog Fred McGriff. The crime dog Fred McGriff. Dodgers, is it Sean Green?
Starting point is 00:38:58 No way, right? No. This is one where a lifeline would have helped. Give me the like, tell us position. Catcher. Mike Piazza. Piazza. Wow.
Starting point is 00:39:09 And then there's no way 98 is also Ripken, is it? No, Roberto Alomar. Okay, and then... 04, 05, 07, and 08. Oh no. 04 is why I was not gonna answer because that question would have helped you before. Alfonso Soriano. Soriano. Idiot. I should have. 2005, Oriol, Miguel Tejada. Wow. I was gonna say
Starting point is 00:39:31 Nick Marcaecus. I love Tejada. I guess Brian Roberts. I was gonna say either Marcaecus or Robert. Wait, can I guess one, Taylor? What happened? What happened in 2007? Nobody? Yeah. How did nobody get Mariner? How did nobody get Ichiro? I assumed it would be him, but I honestly, there's this, it was a dumb strategy. I should have just gone with the definite. I was like, was that your Richie Sexton was like a mariner? I should have gone with the definite answer and I tried getting cute and I'm mad. I'm really mad at myself.
Starting point is 00:39:56 08 Red Sock. 08 Red Sock was JD Drew. Okay, great. Another victory!

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