The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 2: Schedule Watching (feat. Shaquille Leonard)
Episode Date: October 7, 2025"When I went right, I was good!" Shaquille Leonard is here to detail why he retired from the NFL, how he ended up coaching high school football, and why it's about the size of the fight in the dog..., not the size of the dog in the fight. Also, the Shipping Container tries to trick Greg Cote with AI videos. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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This is the Dan Levatore show with the Stucats podcast.
Shaq Leonard is going to join us here three-time All-Pro linebacker.
Retired after only six seasons in the NFL, most of them with the Colts.
They're seeing more NFL players do that at around 30 when they make their money.
So I want to talk to him a little bit about this Colt season
and in general what went on with him physically that made him basically put down.
his identity at 30 years old.
It was cool to see the Colts do his trademark celebration during that game that he was honored,
spoke to the crowd at halftime.
Weird game that one, given that it was on Fox and the whole Mark Sanchez thing.
Well, I want to talk about that for a second because the details,
we had some of them yesterday, but for all of the things that are unknown there,
I think most of the people are doing...
credibility and get reckless.
Here is something we like to call
reckless speculation.
You're good.
He was on something, right?
We're all assuming that it wasn't just drunkenness
that makes you wipe the pepper spray from your eyes
and continue to attack somebody who has a knife and pepper spray.
And no matter how much the 69-year-old truck driver has lived,
that was a bad situation.
that Mark Sanchez ran up into where the 69-year-old guy is prepared to defend himself in an alley
with pepper spray with a knife with a knife and the man handles cooking oil after midnight for a living
like the man is the truck driver is somebody who while you're not quite prepared to defend yourself
in this instance didn't just take the beating fought back in a way that leaves Mark Sanchez in a
public swirl that will end his broadcasting career. These charges, these felonious charges,
it's going to cost him a ton of money, a ton of money when this truck driver retires from
having to handle cooking oil. But that's bad luck to be so on something. And again, I'm
speculating here, obviously, but I think it's speculation we're all doing, that the guy that you
run into in your reckless disarray, while I've read that he was running sprints after midnight in the
alleys too, that that guy has both a knife and pepper spray.
And we don't know what condition.
He's in stable condition, but we don't know how much damage was actually done to Mark
Sanchez.
He's ended his broadcasting career.
Yeah, it's over.
But a lot of people are weighing in, Dan, even the president of the United States said,
quote, that was too bad.
He's a nice guy.
I don't know what happened.
Something bad happened.
Something a little crazy happened.
okay yeah fair commentary you think yeah people were
people were ready to politicize that you were right I read I went back and read some of the
immediate takes and it was interesting to watch Mark Sanchez turned immediately into a victim
in a situation the reports did lead that no but not not the politics of it not not when
we're in living in violent cities now where people aren't safe in alleys not what happened next
where people ran right to their but not just him
He hasn't walked it back, though.
He's like, my point stands.
Let me talk to Shaq Leonard here because, as I said, it was cool to watch the way that he was celebrated.
And the Colts have the best team that they've had in a while, even though he was excellent for the Colts for a good long time,
but not as long as I would have liked to see.
So I have some questions for him.
Nice to see you, Shaq.
Thank you for being on with us.
What did make you leave early when you were so excellent at this?
Oh, man, it just
surgeries after surgeries, man,
and just fighting back
and trying to get back to being
the absolute best that I could be
and then the body was just wearing down
and, you know, I just decided, you know what I mean?
Instead of just putting my body through so much,
you know, just walk away and be there
with my family and, you know,
be there for the community that gave me a lot.
And that was basically, it came out to my decision, man.
How hard was it for you?
How much did you wrestle with?
it?
My man, it's extremely hard, man.
It was difficult.
It probably took me, it took me over a year to kind of, you know, to make the decision
because, I mean, you don't want to give it up.
You don't want to, you know, walk away from something that you enjoy doing.
So, you know, it is, it took a toll on me, mentally, physically, emotionally, just trying to
figure out which way to go.
So I just figured that the safest and the smartest move was to walk away and just be there for
family. Did you talk to Andrew Luck at all about it?
Not about retirement, but Andrew and I, you know, we'll tics each other every once in a while
just trying to catch up or whatnot. But normally never never talk to about retiring or nothing
like that. It was just more so a self-conscious thing that I felt like I was, you know, I had to
do to make a decision for me and my family. Shack, occasionally players who retire young and are
very good change their mind. We've just seen it down here with Darren Waller, the tight end for the
dolphins. Is the door ajar? Is there a chance in a year or two? You make a comeback.
As a right now today, that door is closed. Do I still work out, stuff like that? Yes.
But right now, today, tomorrow, that door is shut. Just enjoying what I'm doing right now.
You're glancing over it when you say, well, it was hard. You're a second round pick,
okay? You fight all your life to get there. You overcome odds.
You're at the top 1% of the top 1% of doing what it is that you do.
You must have been in a great deal of physical pain.
So what are you talking about there when you tell us that you were finished?
Oh, man.
Shoot, where do I start?
I mean, my rookie year, I spray my ankle week four and played the whole season through
with a sprain the ankle and then end up having a surgery after year one.
And then I got the back and cut some year two.
and then year three, I tear my pectanias, had another anchor surgery.
Year four, I mean, that's that's a 2021 season, man.
I literally was out there just running around at about 75%.
Just having my anchors tape, just being in pain every single day of,
every single day of year, honestly, just trying to do what's best to, you know,
get out there on the field.
And then in 2022, man, I was out there.
I couldn't do a calf raise.
I couldn't jump.
I had no power on my left leg.
And I was still out there trying to do it.
I shouldn't even know way I should have been on the field.
But just being out there, man.
And then my final year is basically the same thing.
Absolutely no leg power.
I can't even jump rope off the left leg.
And then, you know, battling with that, getting cut from the coast.
I go to the Eagles.
And then after the Eagles year, man, I had five bone spurs in the front of my ankle.
So I didn't have no flexion in my ankle.
And then after that, man, I had two hip surgeries.
Then 2021, 2021, of course, the two back surgery.
So just surgery after surgery, man.
It was tough.
It was tough.
And every, there's not been a season where I felt good during the season or during the game.
I just always just played through the pain.
What hurt the most if you had to identify one thing?
Well, I'm not going to say that it hurt because whenever I had the back injury,
like I was working out one day and I was fine.
I went to OTAs, and the first day of OTAs, we got to run its sprints,
and then all of a sudden I feel no power on my left leg.
And it took us maybe two months to kind of get down to it and see what it was.
And it was just I had my vertebrae and pinched on a nerve.
And then with that, man, I just lost all power.
So it wasn't more so that I was in pain.
It was just more so I couldn't, I couldn't have no force off my left side.
And then with that, having a tooth back surgery, I couldn't bend, lift, twist for six weeks.
And then I'm going to go, my first day of training camp, I was only two weeks out from running.
and that was probably maybe six to nine months.
So I started the season of my final year with the coach.
And I probably, when the season started,
that was probably my fourth or fifth week,
just getting back to running full speed.
And it was just constantly just trying to build up off that.
I didn't have the time to rest.
I didn't have the time to go out and, you know,
get it back as strong as I needed to without having to get back on the field.
And ultimately, you know, I pay the price for it,
but, you know, I wouldn't change it.
wouldn't change absolutely anything about it, because that's who I am, man.
I want to play.
I mean, that sometimes you think that maybe people should have protected me from myself,
but they knew the competitive nature.
I didn't want to sit on that sideline, and I just went out and tried to put my best foot forward.
How much did you have to medicate in order to do all of that?
Didn't you have to go to some extremes in order to even be out there when you can't do
calf raises?
Oh, man, not more so medication, besides, you know, just, you know,
pain, pain pills to try to get me, you know, through the game.
But besides that, it wasn't nothing.
I mean, I got stressed.
I mean, man, I got really stressed out whenever I was going through all of this.
But they didn't have to put me on blood pressure medicine
and kind of get my blood pressure down.
Man, so that's the only medication that I really had to be on day and day out.
And then night before the game, I take something for pain.
And then the day of the game, I take something for the pain.
I'd be in pain on Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, and then Friday, more so it feels good.
Saturday I'm resting, and then Sunday, man, once that game hit, I'm giving it everything I got,
and then that cycle of hurt just rolls over, man, because it sucks when you're playing a game
and you can't push off your left leg.
Then when you watch my tape from my final couple years, it was, what was missing was a splash
plays, and I knew that I couldn't get to the splash plays because it's more so coming off
more so effort and speed.
So I just had to do my job, and then I started looking bad when I was trying to do more than
my job.
How about when you went right, though?
When I went right, I was there.
I was good.
I was good.
I mean, listen, if I knew what gap, I could shoot, I knew what play was coming.
I was great.
But then that came down with, you know, the coaches and everybody trusted me to do that
because I had a new coaching staff in Indianapolis.
And everybody knew that I had instincts until I get out there.
I lined up in the wrong gap.
and then I knew
at a snap of the ball
where to go
because I knew
the blocking scheme
but they wasn't comfortable
with me doing that
so it slowed my game
down a little bit
to make sure that
you know
I was doing what I was told
and just trying to fit
into that scheme
and I go back to
you know
when I played it
my last start
my last start
with the Eagles
it was just
downhill football
man playing against
Sequin on Christmas night
and I looked
good you know
just running straight
downhill but
it is what it is
man, I feel great now, so it is what it is.
I know that you said you couldn't get that explosiveness on your leg.
You had all the surgeries, all that stuff.
But, like, do you ever consider just taking Mark Jackson's advice
and just tell your body, not now?
I'll talk to you tomorrow.
That's not how you said it.
No, I just more so taking it one day at a time, man,
just being with my feet are as of right now.
So right now, it's just more so continue to work out,
continue to get worked on your body,
and just, you know, be here for my family
and be here for the high school kids that I'm coaching down here
because I want to see them succeed
and I can't have that door opened right now or today or tomorrow
because if I even inch towards going back,
I can't be all-win as a coach
and I don't think these kids, they don't deserve that either.
I mean or them out.
How are the gators looking, by the way, like a few gaiters?
Well, we're young, man.
We're young.
But right now we're three and two.
We lost two games.
And we got a big one coming up.
We got a big one coming up here against the undefeated team.
They're bigger, they're faster, they're stronger.
But we're known for our relentless effort, being the smallest team.
And just playing full speed and playing with a lot of heart and a lot of fight.
And I'm really looking forward to seeing these guys match up and see how they compete against these guys.
Because I think that, you know, they're ready for the opportunity.
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He has been great.
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I said old.
We've said all.
He said all that.
He said all that.
Everyone is.
Everything you're saying, it's all been said.
Everything you're saying, it's all been said.
Okay, you've got to understand one thing.
Stugats.
Me, maximum.
That's right.
Until I say it, it hasn't been said.
Boom.
Okay, understand that.
You're the mayor.
Until I say it hasn't been said.
Me maximum.
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This is the Dan Levitar-Tar show with the Stugats.
What's the thing you like the most about coaching high school and what is the patients involved?
Because I would imagine that some of that is involved as well.
One thing I love about it, man, is seeing them grow.
Seeing them grow a week in, week out, and seeing them make plays that they didn't think they can make.
But you knew as a coach that you knew that they had it in them.
And once they, you know, go out and show their, you know, full potential.
that you've seen, seeing the smiles on their face and seeing how the team comes together
is a beautiful thing to see. And patience, yes, you've got to have a lot of patience, man,
because for one, this generation is a whole lot different from when I played, when you guys
played. The mentality is different, so they're not as locked in as it was back in the day.
So it's going to be a lot of mental mistakes and it's more so frustrating there.
But, you know, that's what coaching is, man. If it was perfect, man, that's not really coaching
it's just actually just being there.
So I enjoyed the frustrating parts of it,
the good parts, the bad parts, and everything about it.
Big one coming up against LaSalle, huh?
And then Logan's Port?
Say it again?
Big one coming up against LaSalle on the 10th.
What?
We were going to run through the schedule.
Mr. Maniac, you were really good at punching the ball out
from opposing players.
We have a cast member on our show.
His name is Jonathan Zaslo,
and he's on a campaign to eradicate that from the NFL,
saying that players shouldn't be allowed to punch
opposing players to try to cause a fumble because if they miss, it could cause a boo-boo on the
forearm. What is your stance on this?
Well, that's like telling the offensive linemen don't use his hands.
So, I mean, I just feel like, man, that ball is out there.
And if you watch it take me, that's a lot of bad ball security.
And as a defense, you think about the ball all the time.
You punch at the ball.
So I don't like it.
I don't think that you take it out of the ball game because it's really good for the defense.
And you see more people of it now.
So I love it.
16 force fumbles in his career because he was very good at punching the football.
He also wore the same T-shirt for several years under his pads.
Can you tell us a little bit about that T-shirt?
Is that still available?
How bad does that thing?
Smell?
What kind of shape is that in?
Oh, man, it doesn't smell.
I get it washed every week.
But yes, I do have that shirt, man.
It's all about just feeling good, man.
Just feeling that peace, feeling at home.
and my first win, my first big game was against Washington, the Redskins,
and I wore the white shirt underneath, and once you find that good mojo, man,
you want to keep that good mojo?
So I wore the same shirt, the same socks, but yes, they were clean.
Each week they were washed, but I'm very superstitious, man,
and I just love it, man.
I just love the small details of how to make somebody go about their day.
You wore a cowboy hat at your retirement ceremony.
cowboy hats do you have?
As a right now, I think I probably have
seven cowboy hats. I'm normally
wearing them all the time, especially
here at home, working out on the farm
and stuff. So, yeah, man, I love
to look, man. I love to be, you know,
my country self, and I love
the cowboy look. Who gave you the nickname
Maniac, and did you embrace it
immediately?
Man, I forgot who gave me
the name, the Maniac. It was
a kid on Sacramento State
campus when I played
I played against Clemson, I came back on campus, and he was like, man, you play like
a straight maniac, man.
And then once he said that, man, I embrace that role because, you know, if you see me
out of the public, man, I'm one of the nicest guy, most humble guy that you would probably
ever meet.
But once we step between the lines and we got to compete against each other, that's when that
maniac's not here right now.
Maniac's not here.
I can't ask for him.
He's not.
No, he's not here.
Only maniac only come out when he's not compete, man.
man, I just see myself on the sideline now
coaching-wise and it had come out sometimes
and I mean, I can't control it, man.
I just get in that zone and it's competing time.
You don't ask to, he's not...
No, I should ask about the Lakeview Gator's upcoming schedule
as well as you mentioned that.
Carver's Bay 7 and 0 is the next one, yeah.
That's a big...
They're undersized.
You got this as pink and serious.
We always under size.
That's great.
We're always undersized, man.
And it's never the size of the dog that's in the fight.
It's size of the fight.
that's in that dog
and we always
will bring that fight
and that's what we live
for.
Yeah,
Lakeview.
Lada?
What do we think
about that one?
Uh,
Shaq,
man,
that's one of our rivals,
man.
Yeah.
We,
we're looking forward to it,
man,
each year,
man,
it's always a good game
and we definitely,
you know,
looking for it,
but we got to take care
of Carver's Bay first,
man,
and then following,
we'll see Lada
at their house and
then the Green Sea Floyd's.
Come out.
We'll play our best
best football there.
Yeah.
Shack,
good seeing you.
Thank you for spending this time with us.
We appreciate it, sir.
Of course, Matt.
Thank you all so much.
So you've got a guy who goes by maniac,
and he's telling you it's not the size of the dog in the fight.
It's the size of the fight and the dog.
And then Greg Cody shows up, slides into the room and says the most menacing thing that can be said.
Hello.
I'm affirming what he just said.
Hello, maniac.
Hello, maniac.
Hello.
That's the better way.
Hello.
Who needs me?
That's the better way to say it.
And you know it.
It is.
Just going to the recycled hits.
He's been done since he recycled all of his column work.
I asked Billy, before we did the Taylor Swift lyrics, I said, is there any more in Greg
Cody's paywall column that can be read?
And he says to me, he's done the whole thing already.
He repeated everything he said in his comments.
column, he just repeated it on air.
Yeah.
How was that not embarrassing to you, to say it all the same way that you wrote it?
Okay, first of all, it's obviously not true.
It was about a 950-word column, so I'm just repeating some of the many great hits in that column.
You know, I encourage people to go read it themselves.
Do you encourage them to go listen to the Greg Cody Show featuring Greg Cody?
I would love, yeah, it's with, of course.
Please get that straight.
I would love it if they did.
It's opening night for the Florida Panthers, the best team in town, the best team in hockey.
And we have Gustav Forseling on our podcast.
Surprisingly good chat.
And when I say surprisingly good, he's a Swedish guy.
Some Swedish hockey players are a little, you know, not known for effusive personality.
Go on.
But we got a lot out of Gustav.
Talk to him about cooking and other off-ice stuff fishing.
Abba.
So it was funny.
He did bring up Abba.
Yeah, I did bring up Abba.
I felt like I needed to.
Put it on the poll at Levitart show.
Did Greg Cody need to bring up Abba when talking to Gustav Forcily?
I did, yeah.
It's a question probably better posed to Gustav's parents, but still, you know, you got to love Dancing Queen, Waterloo.
I mean, they got some bangers right there.
Greg, I saw you admit you're wrong also on this episode.
I did admit I was wrong.
Wow.
Yeah, thank you.
It's because in the episode previously, he said that, he said to me when I was asking about the day I was born,
He's like, you know, I didn't actually see you for 20 minutes.
You were like, I was in a different room.
You got brought in and 20 minutes went by.
And then my mom came on the next week and said, you were in the room.
Well, you know, I mean, your mother was always right.
The idea.
Because I was in the room when my daughter was born.
The idea that 30 years from now, I won't remember to my daughter that I was in the room is wild to me.
Okay, it's 38 years ago.
I'm off by 20 minutes.
Yeah.
You were in the room.
In fairness, your mom.
probably also drugged up.
Like, who knows what she remembers exactly from that day?
Well, Greg still has not forgiven our former sports editor, Paul Anger, who he called Paul
Anchor on his career, because that sports editor called Greg while he was in the hospital
room for one of these births and asked him to report on George Myra Jr.'s steroid suspension.
That was Christopher's birth.
That was my first child is being born that day.
well there we go he was talking to anchor on the phone in another room there was no cell phones at the time he had to step out to take the call that's right case closed exactly st billy brings up a very good place so work you know you were like i'll work right now but he was angry at his boss for asking him to work when he was waiting for your birth yes that was before the birth so i i bum rushed anger off the phone and said no i'm going to graciously decline not to go chase george myra junior got his ass kicked on the story that's what welcomed you into the world
Chris.
I mean, it was reported by others that the star linebacker for the University of Miami had been suspended.
You got mad at our boss for calling you and telling you that you should do your job.
I was too busy creating a human life.
I apologize.
Did you guys have any janitor's sources like Diana?
Like, what's the weirdest profession source that you guys have?
You don't have to tell us who the person is.
Restaurant owners are good for me.
Really?
Yeah.
I had a cop at you, I'm in front of the floors shop.
I meant to speak about this, actually.
the cop that you had at UM, but I meant to say this the other day when we were talking about
University of Miami Royalty and the idea of Michael Irvin as the new mascot.
To see Ed Hudak still running out with the coaches when he's run out with every coach
as we don't really have state troopers the way that run out with the Bobby Bowdens,
the way that some other places have. To see one singular police officer be the one
who keeps all of the University of Miami coaches secrets
and is trusted by Mario Cristobal back from the time
that Mario Cristobal was a player at the University of Miami?
Did you just reveal Greg's source?
No, that's not the source.
There's just a weird thought to pop in your head immediately after this conversation.
It's because I thought, when I saw him running out with Mario Cristobal,
I was like, my God, Ed Hudak's been doing that for 40 years.
He's been running out singularly to protect a University of Michigan.
Miami coach, ever since back when Dennis Erickson needed rides home from the local bars because
he was drinking too much.
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Don Lebertard.
You have some hot takes today.
Joe Chestnuts of fraud.
Oh, he's on fire.
He called Connor McDavid overrated before the show.
What the hell was that, Greg?
Yeah, no.
I love it.
Stugats.
Roy, let me explain it to you.
And not that you need to, you know more about hockey.
And this is coming from a guy that's watched Connor play six times.
Right.
If that.
This is the Dan Lebatar show.
With these two gods.
The other big news in this week's episode was Gustav Forsling confirming with what,
with us Panther fans that we need to stop saying night during the national anthem.
Oh, absolutely.
He was just like, yeah, I don't know why they do that.
It's a good point by you.
Tonight it's tricky.
All right, they got to do it tonight.
No, tonight is starting for Chicago, so they're probably going to do it.
I'm okay with it tonight.
It's a 5 p.m. start tonight, isn't it?
Give me that. I know this is selfish, and people who work 9 to 5s may hate this.
Give me, sign me up for the 5 p.m. start.
Oh, yeah.
For our schedule? Oh, done by 8.
Love it.
Put it on the poll at Lebitard Show.
Would you prefer a 5 p.m. start for your nighttime sporting events?
The prime time game on ESPN is Rangers, Penguins.
Neither one of those teams made to playoff license.
They're doing that just to mess with you, Roy.
Yes, they are.
They're pissing me off, man.
It is a little insulting.
It is.
Back-to-back champs against a team that is from the central time zone.
Kicks things off at 5 o'clock Eastern when the non-playoff teams granted original six franchises.
Pittsburgh and, well, is Pittsburgh an original six?
No, no, no, no.
Well, Blue Blood franchises in that sport that miss the playoffs just because Sidney Crosby is there gets the prime time slot.
I'm not a fan of it.
Can you guys give me some information on what LeBron James did with his second decision?
Was it all marketing? What did he announce here moments ago while we were talking about it that are the details that I need to have here on? LeBron James was teasing something. He was doing it commercially. He was doing it as an advertisement. And I don't think this stuff ends up enduring in any meaningful way. But I do always wonder why it is and how it is. Some folks like Kevin Hart, for example, are so insatiable that they simply cannot stop at the
of money. They cannot stop selling the things they are about. And I don't think it actually
costs him anything, but I do wonder how much of this you do before people call you a sellout.
What is the, what is the announcement? He said this fall, he's bringing his talents to Hennessy.
Yeah. That's it. It's a Hennessy ad. Yeah. He looks cold. He got us.
We're talking about it. The hair's not great. There's salt and pepper there.
Wow, another corporate sponsorship for the billionaire.
So stupid.
You pipe down.
I was watching a documentary I had not seen before last night, American Pain,
and it's just about how out of control all of the pain medication selling was specifically in Florida and South Florida.
And it was two meatheads who sold half a billion pills, basically, because they were just...
Our state is just replete with corruption.
Medicaid has its biggest issues down here in Florida and always has, but this particular documentary that was killing people with opioid addictions, these two meatheads couldn't stop wanting to expand their stupidity because of the greed.
When does any of this stuff land on you guys in a way where you actually say, that's a sellout that's so wrapped around just grabbing it money that I'm going to like you less.
because you're someone who sells out.
You cannot have enough.
You're insatiable.
That kind of greed confuses me once you've arrived at a point that you've already conquered
and you still need more and more.
It doesn't bother me because I'm used to it.
What about Alan John putting it in your lane?
That's never ending last tour?
The four-year farewell tour, yeah.
No, I expect that.
They're here to make money, not just play sports.
And, you know, I hate the idea that he's teasing it
with a big announcement, and then it turns out to be his latest sponsor.
I think that's tacky.
But the idea...
Oh, you mean like what we did with the Greg Cody show when we had a big guest a couple
weeks ago?
And we misled the audience to trick them to get to watch?
The idea that he's making money off Hennessy is great.
Okay?
It's great.
More power to them.
Yeah.
But the tease, like, we do that in podcast.
Like, you tease things.
If I got something I want to announce tomorrow, I'm going to make you interested in it.
Right.
And what's the difference between him teasing this and us seeing him in an ad for?
for Hennessy. The difference is that he's playing with your feelings and playing with the idea
that he's going to retire again and reminding you how he went from popular to unpopular to popular
again by like the original mistake, I'm going to call it a mistake because he's said it's a
mistake. I didn't think it was a mistake. But the original quote unquote mistake that he made
was teasing people with their feelings because he was playing with the suspense and the drugs.
and then making a decision.
Here, he didn't change the way free agency is covered.
He didn't change the way powers distributed.
He just put his name on something that's a brand in order to make more money
because he has more brand sponsorships than just about anyone in American sports.
And I do wonder, in the case of, for example, Kevin Hart,
Kiss is the most commercially successful band of all time.
They will sell anything.
There is no pride in the art.
You mean in terms of licensing?
For selling stuff, just for selling.
themselves out commercially and brazenly. Kevin Hart, his last goal is he wants to be a
billionaire. That's the most important thing to him. And so you see him everywhere. What does it
mean to anyone listening to this to have someone they love brazenly sell out?
I think we're so used to it. We're so numb to it that it almost doesn't affect.
affect us anymore. It doesn't affect me. I'm so used to saying, you know, when Tiger Woods
is the biggest thing in golf, I'm so used to seeing a Nike swoosh on his, on his hat. I don't
even think about it anymore. I think it's impossible for a guy like LeBron to sell out and have
he, he jumped into our lives immediately at like the top tier of fame. It's not like he was
an indie band that had all these underground records that you adored and then all of a sudden they
become imagined dragons. It's not the same kind of relationship. I get it with music. I get it
with like directors that probably change. I don't get it when you're complaining about Michael
Jordan or or Tiger Woods doing it because they're already entering at the top line. You mentioned
Kiss. I don't see anybody licensing their name as much as Shaquille O'Neal. Everything has a
Shaquille O'Neal thing on it and no one like we all we all kind of get it. But I will say part
of this LeBron story that was interesting was the internet had it wrong. This is bad for Hennessy.
Everyone was saying that this was an Amazon prime thing. Good for them. You cannot believe the internet
unless you want to. Let me tell you about my algorithm right now, especially on
Instagram. It is all these AI-generated videos of historical figures doing incredible
athletic things. I'm not sure it's AI. Well, we'll see. Let's play this one for Greg
Cody and see what he thinks. Here's George Washington hitting a walk-off grand slam against the Yankees
in the World Series. Do we have audio for this? That's a sweet swing. Let's hear this post-game.
I was sitting on the 12-6 curve ball down and inside, and that's what that half-witted
and Incompoot gave me.
That was unbelievable.
Miller laid on himself.
Do you think that's real?
Yeah, for sure.
All right.
Well, here's a great one.
Here's a King Elvis Presley post-Nascar race.
Elvis 500 miles of Daytona, and you brought it home first.
How's that feel?
It feels like I wrestled a hurricane, man, but it sure feels good.
Car was steady.
Pit crew was lightning, and we kept it together.
when it counted.
Fans are going wild.
Got anything for him?
Thank you.
Daytona.
He's going to go, thank you very much.
Yeah, the best subgenre of this is
the WWE.
And when they invoke wrestling
in historical figures,
here's a ladder match between
Mr. Rogers and Bob Ross.
Hit it.
They're both up there.
No way.
No way.
Oh, my goodness.
Stan is fly off the top of the ladder.
Through the flaming table.
That table's on fire.
Just went straight to the canvas
with fire.
Oh, man.
Believe it or not, that one's actually real.
That was from summer
Slam, 1987.
All right, dad, two are real, one's fake.
All right, here we go.
Here's another one from the wrestling world.
Please, the roof is coming off for Dufax Shakur.
He looks like he was boring to walk that ramp.
Yo, anybody back there think they got the heart to step up?
I'm right here.
B.I.G.
Oh, I can't believe this.
You've been running your mouth all week, champ, talking like the throne's yours, but you're
standing in my house now.
This ring, this is West Coast territory tonight, and I'm setting it off.
Biggie, you've been shot.
in too long hiding behind that goal tonight i'm kicking the door in that sales gonna lock behind us
and there ain't no bodyguard no entourage just you me and every six uh billy how do you feel
about elvis how do you feel about everything elvis that is happening uh keeping him i
stephen hawking skateboarding don't want to preview it's not get that's not so like it's like basically
all stephen hawking ones which i know is you know this one's a little dangerous but as it's been
pointed out. No longer with us.
It's fake. Link to the island. Link to the island.
Went to the island. So maybe not
maybe this is the only person we can do this
with, but go ahead and fire up the signal. I'll hit it.
Run two. Look at the spade building on that chair.
He's locked in. Big pump coming up the
launching. Four-twenty-tows for the table.
That's realistic. Come on
sideways.
Look at Greg. Greg's legitimately
shocked. Greg's legitimately
hurt on behalf of Stephen Hawking.
That was Stephen Hawking trying to do
multiple backflips on BMX RAM.
Show the Formula One.
Come on.
Kingstown.
Come on.
Driving an F-1 car.
327 kilometers and out from a wheelchair.
It's moving away from the Ferrari and the Mercedes.
Absolutely.
All right.
That's enough.
That's enough.
I was going somewhere with Billy.
I forgot about that race.
On Elvis Presley.
I wanted to talk about Elvis.
Wait, what's Stephen Hawking doing here coming down this ramp?
He's on top of the cage.
It's on top of the cage.
Are you kidding me?
I'm on top of the roof.
Through the table.
He just slapped him.
I used to hate AI.
Now I love it.
That happened to Billy last week.
He said he hated AI and then a segment later loved it again.
That's the relationship we have with AI.
Tyree Kill, I mean.
Tyree, you guys got that one?
All right.
Greg, did you see that video?
Just play Elvis getting mad at somebody heckling him, please.
I don't pay attention to rumors.
I don't pay attention to movie magazines.
They don't read them because they're all junk.
No, I don't mean to put anybody's job down.
I'm talking about they have a job to do, and they've got to write something.
So if they don't know anything, they make it up, you know.
So in my case, they make it up.
But I hear rumors flying around.
I got sick in the hospital.
Well, you know, in this day and time, you can't even get sick.
You are strung out.
Oh, by God, I'll tell you something, friend.
I have never been strung out in my life, except on music.
when i got sick here in the hotel i got sick here that one night had a hundred and two
temperature that would let me perform from three different sources i heard i was strung out on heroin
i swear to god hotel employees jack bell boys freaks you carry your luggage up to the
room people working around you know talking maids
And I was sick.
I was, you know, I was getting, had a doctor, had the flu, and I'd get over one day, was I?
But all across this town, I was strung out.
So I told him earlier, and don't you get offended, ladies and gentlemen, I'm talking to somebody else.
If I find or hear the individual that has said that about me, I'm going to break your goddamn neck, you son of a bitch.
That is dangerous.
That is damaging.
to myself, to my little daughter,
to my father, to my
friends, my doctor,
to everybody in my relationship with you,
my relationship with you on the state,
it is dangerous. I will pull your goddamn
tongue out by the roots.
Thank you very much.
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