The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 2: Somebody Be Normal For 5 Seconds

Episode Date: June 12, 2024

Dan is shocked that Lucy is exhausted by everything surrounding Caitlin Clark. Lucy just wants everybody to be normal for five seconds, something that currently appears impossible. Dan has a stat of the day about the lack of success the Lakers had over the last decade that leads us to wonder about the actual quality of the job that Dan Hurley turned down. Chris Wittyngham was insanely wrong about the Florida Panthers and we revisit just how incredibly wrong he was by replaying an old parade of gasbags. Jess has an idea for how we can allow him back onto the Panwagon which would come with a price at a possible Stanley Cup parade (can we PLEASE stop talking about this hypothetical parade?!) Then, Elle Duncan--who is also exhausted by all of the narratives surrounding Caitlin Clark--joins the show to discuss the wild last few weeks surrounding the WNBA and the top five threats made by white men. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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I believe I have a shocking stat of the day and I believe I have shocking Lucy information. Which would you like Stugats? Shocking Lucy information? lucy information which would you like stood out uh... shocking lucy information how exhausting does all of the caitlin clark conversation have to be when lucy road dean who has been

famously publicly pro caitlyn clark before it was, before it was trendy as our resident Iowa correspondent for her this fast into Katelyn Clark's career. I think we're talking about 10 games for her to be totally tired of talking about Katelyn Clark. Katelyn is the only person having any normal conversation about caitlin i never thought that i would wake up and not want to hear people talk about her every time i open up my phone it's this sessful of just grossed up nicki hailey

shut up talk about caitlin she's mine not yours uh... she's reached rage levels and we're just, how many games are we into the experiment? Is it eight, nine, 10, 11? They've played like 600 games so far. They've played more games than anybody else by like 10 miles.

I think there are three and nine. Well, there's probably another one in there somewhere. That's too many games. That was fast though. It was fast for you to get to already tired about the discord. We were talking earlier in the week about the idea that she's somehow controversial even though she's done nothing controversial because she's just I

think Jessica said she's just an avatar for whatever it is you want to talk about it's not her fault it's everyone else's fault I just didn't expect everyone to be that stupid I thought they'd be stupid but not that dumb they're just she doesn't she doesn't say anything she doesn't do anything she goes out she plays basketball, she's normal. Even the whole Olympic conversation, she wasn't mad. She wasn't upset. Then everybody else just gets so,

and she doesn't need you to do that. She's cool, she's good, she makes a lot of money, she's fine, leave her alone. Just leave her alone. Be normal. Does somebody know over five seconds? Yeah, no one can be normal. To Lucy's point, I was listening to the Athletic Women's Basketball podcast yesterday and Ben Pickman was saying that USA basketball stuck to basketball and all Caitlin Clark's been saying all season was like she wants to tune everything out and

just stick to basketball and they did did, they did that, and everyone's still really mad, and it's very just, ah, why can't we just be normal? What is generally happening with the coddling though? Like the idea that people are rushing over to not just have an opinion, but to also protect her from expectations that come with being a prodigy? It's all pretty much just like,

it boils down to like men being like, women need to be protected, even though men are the ones who do all the bad stuff to women, it's pretty much all of them. They're the ones that we need to be protected from, but yet they're saying they need to protect us. Kaitlyn doesn't need to be coddled, and it's like, I followed Kaitlyn since she was

in high school. That girl is a killer. She doesn't need to be coddled. Sometimes I think, hey, maybe the people around her need to be coddled, because, look, my girl's fiery. She doesn't need you, Nikki Haley. Sounds like you're talking about it. Right.

But she's tired of talking about it. I'm tired of listening to everyone else talk about it. I'm tired of listening to it. I don't care what they say. Lucy's allowed to talk about it. I've followed Katelyn since high school, makes Katelyn sound less like a killer and you sound more like a killer. Actually, I don't know what to respond to that. That's true.

He's boxed you in. He's a good checkmate sometimes on that. I've got I still want to get to this stat because I do believe that all of you will be surprised by this because I didn't believe it when I saw it. And I had to double check it because I think of the Los Angeles Lakers as something historically that they have not in any way been

recently. It came up in the weird story of Dan Hurley who will be on with us tomorrow incidentally so we will get to ask him some of these questions about something that is confusing and there's an element of the story that I think people listening to this will be interested in because they're interested in the insider stuff and Woj and Shams are going at it in a way that's public and interesting to me. But we were talking about the Laker job and Jessica mentioned, is it that good of a job? Because it's always been a good job, but they've got now at the center of

everything they're doing the oldest player in the league and the stat i'm about to read start of the day start of the day it is the start of the day start of the day start of the day it is the start of the day

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It is the greatest week any sports executive has ever had. That's what Jerry West did. I mean, Riley got LeBron and Bosch. Same day. And Wade. Discounted. Yes, and discounted, same day. So perhaps not the greatest week an executive has ever had. But

because Jerry West did that and because the Lakers have been so relevant for so long. This is the stat of the day that surprised me. In the last 12 seasons, the Lakers have been seasons the Lakers have been higher than a seven seed once. Wow. 12 seasons. The Lakers have been higher than a seven seed one time. I had to go look it up because I'm like, that can't be right. They've always been relevant, but Kobe played at the end for some really bad teams.

They've always had stars, but the last 12 years of Lakers as a mom and pop business has been an illusion. Like, it's been an optical illusion. It's all of their history is the way that you remember them. And the fact that they keep putting a star in front of it makes it seem like they've been better than they have been the last 12 years. That one title in the bubble covers a lot of stuff up a lot of losing up they've also run through six or seven head coaches in the last twelve years it's crazy and so to jessica's point when hurley comes up for that job and it feels like the whole thing seems

fishy and a negotiating ploy and it's Hurley taking advantage of the situation because he can because he's a basketball royalty name the Hurley family is known as basketball and so if the Laker job comes open yeah sure why not interview it but not with the intention of taking it and not because it's that good a job with the oldest player in the league in control of everything. Stugatz here. Summertime is here, which means travel season is upon us. If you're like me and love to travel during the warmer months, the first thing you worry about before traveling is, how safe will my home be while I'm away? I no longer worry about that now that I have SimpliSafe installed in my home.

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I think you can do this. Pah, pah, pah, ha, ha! Pah, pah, ha, ha! Kev! Ha, ha, ha, ha! Ha, ha, ha, ha! Kev! Pah, pah!

This is the Dan LeVatar Show with the StuGuts. Chris Whittingham, StuGuts, many of us miss him around here. Many also don't miss all of the weirdness that Chris Whittingham is. Some of us miss him. I mean, becoming less and less. But who is this? Chris Whittingham was the executive producer of the show for about six minutes and then went off to his dream job but in so doing took a wrestling

heel turn that kind of surprised us i think where he went from a panthers fan to a rangers fan at the wrong time and did so because he was mad at the panthers for breaking up what was a great offensive regular season team that then got strangled in the postseason by tampa bay uh... winning him was no at all allowed wrong in a montage that we played last year about his hockey takes

that somehow even though it was historically gas bag wrong last year is even worse it's a aging and wrong last year, is even worse. It's aging even worse than the mockery of a year ago. I would like to disappear in the playoffs again. We won't be in the playoffs. But the flames of- Because of empty stats Matthew can chop. But the-

The coach came in and is like, the style is gonna change. We're gonna play playoff hockey in the regular season. Listen pal, if you're six points, you're six points ahead of the final playoff spot, you're not playing playoff hockey in the regular season. Listen, pal, if you're six points ahead of the final playoff spot, you're not playing playoff hockey in the playoffs. I'm trying to play a more playoff-style type of hockey. What? Playoff style?

That's what he said. Of nonsense. Playoff style. Are you going to play playoff style? I'm still offended at the opening night broadcast from the Florida Panthers when they came out and said, here's, we got to sell what we did in this offseason to the fans and so we're gonna do is we're gonna tell everyone we're gonna play playoff style hockey in the regular season to get you ready and then to go right back to being outside of the final play I'm offended I'm still offended it's it's so arrogant there's so much

hubris in you guys were playing that little tippy-tappy fun stuff in the regular season. That stuff isn't working to play. We're gonna play, we're gonna play mad hockey now. After that unprecedented success, we're done with it. Why did they break the team up? They broke the team up. They broke the team up.

They broke the team up. They changed their style. They changed coaches. They broke the team up. You and Hubertow, you just won't get over this. They won that trade. That's been way better than Hubertow. Go look at what Hubertow's doing this year.

It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. Eric Saul, Eric Saul has as many goals as is doing this year. It doesn't matter. Eric Saul has as many goals as Jonathan Hubert. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. Matthew Cachac's got a bunch of empty stats. You're out of the playoffs. Who gives a f***ing stat? What are you talking about empty stats?

Yeah, they're empty if you don't win. They don't win games. I have no feeling towards this team. None. They ripped the soul out of it. This has been every hockey season. We check in at about now. Which is exactly why it's so f***ing ridiculous that they broke the team up. You were saying you changed stylistically and you swapped superstars to a player who does not match the style that you had before. He's not a much better player.

They lose terrible games. They're not fun to watch, they don't have any discernible style, they play like all the other hockey teams, and in the middle of it, there's a very standout individual who is getting his stats, but is very clearly not helping the team win with those stats. Listen pal. I have an idea. We should let Witty back on the Pan Wagon and get him on a float if and when the Panthers win, which I've said I've had a feeling

they're gonna win all season. But only with the stipulation that fans are allowed to throw tomatoes at him while on the parade route. I like it. I'll allow it. Yep. What's going to happen there, because I don't know, in the event of a parade,

and you gotta be careful with all of that stuff, you will infuriate the superstitious among us, but I don't know the details of where that would even be. I'm assuming it would be Los Olas or it would be Fort Lauderdale and I know you guys have been working the Panthers trying to figure out how you can be a part of the parade if indeed there is a parade. We have not been told no yet. That's where we're at. That's good. Okay, well that's where we're at that's good okay well that's not going for the tomato thing I mean that would go super viral

that's probably some liability issues with that can you put up on the on the pole please juju at lebatard show our quote listen pal fighting words listen pal white guys for white guys okay at the put two poles up there are the words listen pal fighting words and are the words listen pal only fighting words for white people uh... let's do Against the Spread, please. ["Against the Spread"]

That's right, it's time for Against the Spread. Not a lot of enthusiasm from the group there supporting you, Chris. And it's brought to you by DraftKings. Stay tuned, because you'll hear all that DraftKings has to offer throughout the show. DraftKings, the crown is yours. Lucy, kick us off.

All right, starting off with some WNBA action. Tomorrow night, the Mercury. That's always a hard word for me to say. Mercury? I can't get that. That and Arnold Palmer can't get for some reason. That's not the point of this. That is not what DraftKings spends their good money on.

The Mercury, I think I got it that time, are playing the Aces. The Aces are a 16 point favorite. No, you gotta take the Mercury plus 16. The Aces have lost three in a row. They're not looking good right now. That's a huge spread. Jessica made a face at your bet though.

She didn't like it. Maybe the aces are due. Yeah but 16 is a giant spread. It is giant. You're Lucy you're absolutely right thank you. I can say mercury and almond parmol now. Tony! What? I couldn't get it. You were so confident. Against the spread! Tony we got. We're going to the association tonight the line just moved. I'm confident again We're going to the association tonight the line just moved Right now from minus three to minus two and a half. I'm taking the Dallas Mavericks You took the Dallas last weekend. I know yeah, but they're due again today Luca back in action. No poor Zingas No rim protector Luca. Can we get an actual the entire time I'm saying he's back he's at home I said ready to go no poor Zingas getting into the lane is poor Zingas indeed out or is he questionable Dan I mean you know his injury I mean it was obvious when it happened we knew what it was it was the

rectilium yeah because it says where's the paper read it's dude got threw it away. There's a rent. There's a Torn medial retina column it was making me close enough. Okay, Dallas Mavericks minus two and a half against us All right Billy, yeah I'm gonna take The USFL champion, Birmingham Stallions, over the XFL conference champion, San Antonio Brahmas, in this week's UFL championship game. Now a lot of you are saying, Billy, the Birmingham Stallions lost one game all season.

They were nine and one. And that game was to the San Antonio Brahmas, who were seven and three, as we all know, on the season. But the one loss the Stallions had was to the Brahmas. How are you picking the Stallions to win by three, minus three in the championship game against the Brahmas, the only team that defeated them this season. And it's because in the UFL championship game,

we all know, revenge is a factor. And this is a huge revenge game. I'm gonna take the Birmingham Stallions minus three against the Sprint. This is a three-peat for the Stallions if they win, by the way. They've won the last two. Well, they won the last two in the USFL. You know what is not a repeat for the stallions if they win by the way. They've won the last two. Well they won the last two in the USFL.

You know what is not a repeat? DraftKings giving us another contract with this is against the spread. A bigger one they're gonna give us. Revenge game and they're due? That's the analysis? I gave you no porzingis, rectum, whatever. What else do you want?

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Did someone say conservative entity? Wow! No! What? Oh see this is why! Stugatz! Wait, five? Hers is better than mine. How is the fifth Sagaki better than the third and the fourth Sagaki already? This is the Don Lebatard show with the Stugarts. Hi, oh, oh, it's my girl.

OK, Jessica, can I tell you, I spent like three days after Formula One going, was I too familiar? I called her Jess right away as if we were like old homies from college. And I just have just kept calling her Jessica. I really spent like an absurd amount of time tormenting myself over whether I should have called you Jess. No, I go by both. But also I wore my Hannah Hidalgo shirt today for you. But it's too cold to take off my sweatshirt. It's underneath. That's all that matters.

It's there. Exactly. Elle, we are so happy to see you. I don't mean to sound too parental here in feeling proud of you that you can display the full range of your personality in a way that the prompter doesn't allow, but it's nice to see you again and thank you for making the time for us.

Dan, are you joking? I squealed at the call. Thank you. Hi, Stu gots. Hello, Elle. Hi, Dan. Hi everybody. Hey, Dan, are you joking? I squealed at the call. Thank you. Hi, Stu Gotts. Hello, Elle. Hi, Dan. Hi, everybody. Hey, I see Lucy.

It's, oh, hey, what's up, Greg? Okay, I kind of see, can't see who's in the very back. Yes! It's Billy, Tony, and Greg. That's fine. That's fine. You did fine.

Elle, I should tell the people, she's been a mainstay on Sports Center here close to a decade, and obviously excellent on WNBA Countdown on ABC. And it's a show and looks and acts like none I've ever seen. Elle, I think it's fair to say that, right? There's never been the space for this kind of chemistry, this kind of show at ESPN, correct?

Yeah, no. I mean, I would agree. Like it always feels weird being that person that's like, yeah. But yeah, I mean, I would agree. I, you know, I, like, it always feels weird being that person that's like, yeah. But yeah, I mean, I think that, you know, for it's good and it's bad, there is an opportunity there or at the very least at places let me sort of be who I am, wherever I am, so that's been cool. Can you take us through,

and I wanna cede the floor to you here, just the last 10 days, the last 10 days have been interesting to you, why and how. They've been exhausting. I have used the phrase from the Green Mile from our beloved, what was his name? John Coffey, as tired boss. I have used that phrase more in the last 10 days

than maybe ever. Like I am so, I'm really, I'm really exhausted. I certainly know that social media is not a place to have nuanced conversations. But if I'm being honest, you guys, I think I'm a little disappointed in myself. I think I naively thought with all of the momentum from the college space, with these amazing numbers, with these ratings, with just all the good feels, with the hope that it was going to translate to the W because it just hasn't. For whatever reason, for a bevy of reasons, and I think we know what some of those are,

that translation's never been there. That you can love these college players and then you can watch them level up at the professional level. And I think I just sort of naively thought like all this attention that Caitlyn is going to bring like is going to shine a spotlight on everyone else and it's just going to grow and it's going to be so great and everyone's going to get to see how awesome the W is. And it has become like everything else in this country a total complete culture war where everyone that's new to the party is showing up with pitchforks. And that doesn't sound like a fun party

that I would want to be at. So yeah, it's been a little bit of coming to terms with the fact that I very naively thought it would look a lot different. Elle, that's crazy to me that you and Lucy, 12 games into the Kaitlin experience, are already, I'm tired boss. Like that's crazy, how can that be?

Yeah, I know. And especially, I know Lucy, being a big Kaitlin Clark fan, I mean, I I especially, I know Lucy, being a big Caitlin Clark fan, I mean, I watch all your stuff, Lucy, I love it. And I think I'm frustrated for many reasons. I do think, and I've asked, because here's the thing, to address some people on social media that have been like,

don't you scold us. Like, this is your first, you know, foray into the W as well. You're 100% right. I've been in the college space for three years. I have been in this W space for just this season, a handful of weeks, if you will. And a lot of that is because of the growth

that Caitlin Clark brought in the idea that they wanted to carry some of the momentum that me and Andrea Carter and Shania Goumouke had from the women's tournament. But I, I'm like, some new people in this space are asking a lot of questions and I'm trying to do a lot of listening and I'm doing a lot of research and maybe that's because that's my job by nature. But when I ask people that are in this space like why are we here? What happened? to now we have othered her in a way that it is either you are showing complete fealty

to Caitlin Clark or you're a jealous, bitter hater and there's no in between. It's like you are either saying that she should be given everything that she wants because she's been transformative or you hate her and you're a racist, which I've been called numerous times this week as well. So there's just no, there's no in between

and it's frustrating because everyone has taken to their respective sides and like there really is no room to listen or I didn't think that the Olympic thing would be That talked about um naively, uh, and and sure enough like we're still here, you know Five four or five six days later talking about it, too Isn't it possible that it's just because men want to be a part of the conversation now and it's easy to do All-star snubs and Caitlin as an entry point and everyone can look at what's happening and say I liked it better before the men got here Yes All my girl group chats just look like what is wrong with with the men? What has happened to the men? They're losing it. Yes, and I think that's the frustrating part

is that I'm not one of those people that's like, you're new, you should have nothing to say. But the problem is, is that these new people don't really have anything else to talk about. They're not particularly researched, they're not watching these games. They're certainly not texting sort of the experts or the analysts that they have at their disposal

to ask them what are storylines that are worth selling? And so they keep going to the same bag of tricks. She's being targeted. She's the best thing to ever happen to these women and she's being snubbed. It's just like the same rehash. And it doesn't matter how measured the conversation is around it.

I mean, actually, Dan, I was really excited that when this thing leaked last Saturday, that we were gonna get to do a WNBA countdown. Because again, naively, I was like, Andrea Carter and Shania Goumoukai should be the first voices on this. Like before the men get it, let's let these two very pragmatic, measured,

researched, incredible people give their thoughts on why potentially she was left off the roster, which is different than being snubbed. She was left off, she was not snubbed. And it still hasn't mattered because, you know, it's still the people with the biggest platforms are the ones who, you know, want to be able to throw Caitlin Clark in the A block, but in a way that they think is digestible to their fans, which is simply going to the one thing that they know about, which is, you know, besmirching and denigrating an entire group of women thinking that you're doing it in a way that's like promoting Caitlin Clark, which is beyond strange to me, too.

I have a question looking ahead to the next Olympics in 2028, which will be here in the United States. There's going to be a even more of an influx of talent coming out of college next year and in the next three years with Paige Becker's, Juju Watkins, Hannah Hidalgo. Plus you'll have rookies this year like Angel Reese that may be eligible to play in the next one. Will this be the deepest pool of talent in USA basketball

that we've ever seen in 2028 trying to make that roster? Sure, I mean, listen, it stands to reason that like Diana Trossi is not gonna be on the roster at 46 years old. Who knows? She could surprise me. Certainly she's doing things that we haven't seen any 42 year old do in basketball before, but absolutely.

I think the thing that's frustrating to me about this Olympic conversation, Jess, it, Jess, we're friends. I'm going with Jess. Um, is that People just want everything handed to Caitlin and Caitlin doesn't want that either. Come on, man. She didn't become the greatest basketball college basketball player of all time by like Wanting anything handled to her the greatest shooter by wanting people to not defend her or face guard her And so yeah, it's gonna be a really tough decision to make for the Olympics.

I think it was a really tough decision to make to leave Arikay Gumbuale off. And if you talk to the analyst, the reason is, part of the reason anyway, is because Arikay is a very unique and special talent, much like Caitlin Clark. And she's not exactly a plug into the system and go type of player.

You have to little bit build around her to play to her strengths, which she has many, but you have to sort of build a team and a strategy around that one player, which is not really ideal for an Olympic roster. So yeah, it's going to be incredible. I mean, and I love that you mentioned Paige Becker's, you know, like we're talking about her coming into the league next year. At some point, Juju coming into the league at some point, Hannah Hidalgo, who I know is buried under your sweatshirt in there, Jess. Um, and so it's going to be an incredibly still difficult decision because again, you guys,

all of the best basketball players in the world reside in America. So you're talking about picking 12 of the best in the world and it will still be a tough decision and there will still be people who are upset and will be snubbed. But in this particular instance, it was just not Caitlin Clark.

There is another rookie that we haven't been talking about a lot, Alyssa Peely. She had this incredible half court shot. I'm not sure if you saw it. We're going to play the video right now. It's B roll, so talk over it. Okay, well here it is. One handed just launches the ball from half court and makes the shot. One of the most incredibly athletic things I have ever seen.

I truly, what do you even say? She threw it like a baseball. I was gonna say, that's why I love a Dan is because it actually looked like incredibly sort of unathletic. It looks like she's like, whatever. She sort of shot put it and that's how far it went because Alyssa Peely has grown, grown, grown woman strength.

Like that is not surprising at all. Can you help us with the storylines if people need to be talking about the basketball? This Saturday you have Saturday and Sunday games. You got Aces hosting the Liberty and you got Brittany Griner and the Mercury hosting the Storm. When you talk about storylines that people should be paying attention to instead of Caitlin Clark talk all the time, what should they be paying attention to? Yeah, and let me be clear, like, come for the Caitlin Clark and stay for the other storylines, right?

There is no such thing as growing the space if you still only watch one particular player. That doesn't grow really anything. It helps just the fevers numbers. So this weekend alone, you're gonna have an Aces team that looked like they were streaking towards the third straight championship.

They've taken a little bit of a hit right now, but they still don't have Chelsea Gray, one of the best point guards in the entire world right now at their disposal. So it looks like there's a little bit of blood in the water, but Asia Wilson is having a 2001 Shaq year, right? Like you guys know what that means. She is dominating and is just must see TV

on every single level. The Liberty look like a team that is finally sort of figuring some things out. They just took down the Connecticut Sun. The Sun is like the perennial. You guys, we always want a good like underdog type of story. That's the Sun man. They are always the bridesmaid.

They are never the bride. They've been to more finals and semis appearances than any other team without an actual championship in W history. And they look fantastic despite just losing to the Liberty. They turned around and beat up on the fever. Nafisha Collier has been stupid for Minnesota. I don't think anyone was talking about the Lynx

when we were coming in. Now they're the second, third best team in the league right now. And you talk about the Seattle Storm, right? Like we thought this could be a super team with Nneka Gouma-Kay, with Skylar Diggins-Smith. They started out the season not playing particularly well. They've won seven of their last eight and they are absolutely

balling. So there's so many and the Mercury like Diana Taurasi is 42 years old, wanted to make this Olympic team, is shooting better from long distance than really anybody else in the league. And my girl Kalia Copper is absolutely on one, makes her first Olympic team because she leads the league in scoring. She's been so fun to watch. Brittany Greiner shaking off the rest. She just put up a 24 point effort. Like there is storylines galore in particular this week and I hope that you guys will be watching on ABC. The best teams are being featured before we let you go in honor of Chris Whittingham using the fighting words. Listen, pal, we have a top five list for L of most threatening things said by the white man number five or we have OLI here Stu guy just a straight five okay

number five hold your horses pal okay number four you've got another thing coming number three two hits me you, you hitting the floor. Number two. I'm going to clean your clock. And number one. Newsflash. You got to have a buddy at the end of that. It's Newsflash buddy.

That's what really stings. That's what makes it a fighting word is the buddy. The shipping container hated your list. I feel like there's more threatening things, but. Hold Your Horses is strong. It's my list, and it's white men. No, are you talking to me? Are you talking to me?

I'm gonna turn this car around. That's what I would claw. For a kid though, I'm gonna kidnap you, put you in a cage in my garage. The family's not gonna hear from you for six months. It's always white people that do that. Whoa, that escalated. Elle, thank you for being on with us.

Again, I will tell the folks, WNBA Countdown on ABC, she is doing a spectacular job with it. It's nice seeing you again. Thank you. Can I throw one in for Stu Gots that no white person would ever say that you would be the first and it would make a lot of sense? You finna get your wig split.

If you could just say that, I promise you they'll be. That was a lie for me, yeah. I'm ready to die. If you can just say that, I promise you. That was all I knew. Yeah. Yeah. L. Nice seeing you. Nice to you guys are the best. Thanks for having me on Dan. Thanks

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