The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 2: Stugotz Issues An Apology
Episode Date: November 12, 2024Do you have to earn a shower? Do you shower for yourself or for others? Syracuse Coach Fran Brown has us asking these hygiene questions and more. Then, Billy shares a secret about wearing a suit more ...than once, and he tells us the story of bumping into Jorge Soler at a quinceañera. How do handle it if you see a celebrity somewhere? Do you introduce yourself? Do you take a picture? What if you tangentially know them? The crew dives into their celebrity stories including Soler, Jason Lee, Charles Johnson, Terrell Suggs, and Stanley Tucci. Plus, Greg still believes in Mike Tyson ahead of one of the strangest fights in recent memory between Tyson and Jake Paul on Netflix. Also, Stugotz has some words for Lions coach Dan Campbell. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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This is the Don LeBattor Show with the StuGuts Podcast.
The John Leavittor Show with the Stugats Podcast. Chris, why are you obsessed with the Syracuse coach?
Oh my God, I'm so glad we got to this.
As my dad is clackity clack clackin' away
on his typewriter.
Dad, we've started.
Greg, we've started.
We're doing show.
We're doing show.
Greg, you gotta put your headset on.
You gotta stop your clackity clackin'.
Is this the Syracuse football coach?
This is the Syracuse football coach,
and they took a tough L this week.
And I'm just gonna let this guy speak for himself,
but I am mesmerized by this.
Honestly, I got like a ritual, like when we lose,
I ain't even getting a shower till early this morning.
I just be mad, I just brush my teeth.
But it's like, I don't deserve soap,
I don't deserve to do all that.
I just, I'm just focused on like trying to get back
and trying to make sure that our players
mentally understand and know that I let them down,
that they didn't do it.
There's a process that I follow every week.
One loser draw, only thing is like,
my wife, I can't sleep in the bed if we lose
cause I ain't gonna get in the shower for that day.
I'm just mad and I just sit there.
I just brush my teeth.
That's what I have to do
so y'all won't say my breath stinks,
but I'm just kinda locked in on certain things,
certain ways, I think you gotta earn the right
to do certain things, so you know, winners get washed.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm a loser, I just kinda waited a little bit.
I'm just confused on the distinction where
win or lose, your teeth get cleaned. But to me me it would just be like one thing like after a loss
I don't wash anything or like he's just like my knees my back no soap for me
But I need toothpaste obviously I need toothpaste seems willy-nilly
I mean, I don't think so I think it's principled
And I think he's being a nice man by protecting us from his breath. The rest of him is not likely to stink
the way that his breath would stink, unbrushed.
Put it on the poll, please, Juju, at LeBittard Show.
Do you have to earn your soap at LeBittard Show?
That's insane to me.
Winners get washed is what the logo,
the motto he's trying to go with,
it's like a coffee is for closers thing.
No, washing is not for you, it's for others.
You are around other people.
Wash yourself, man.
All right, put that on the poll as well,
Juju, at LeBittard Show.
Washing for you or for others?
Because I don't feel like I'm washing for others,
but he was definitely brushing his teeth for others.
But he said he can't sleep in the bed with his wife
because he stinks.
You're washing for her, not for you.
What happens if they lose their bowl game?
I mean, this is not gonna be pretty.
That's a long off season.
I've never heard of the phrase having to earn
the right to take a shower.
I've never heard of that before.
You like it though, huh?
He has invented that, and I give him credit for it.
Fran Brown is his name, incidentally,
because I feel like we're all talking around that
for some reason.
We know his name.
Florida Georgia coach.
Does a shower in the pool count here?
Yes.
Can you do that after a lot?
No, that doesn't count.
That does not count.
It always counts.
That does not count.
I have not heard of Izzy's theory there
of cleaning for others.
I don't believe that that is something that one does.
I clean for myself to remain clean, not for others. It's not because I don't want to
stink for others, it's because I don't want to stink for myself.
So when you give yourself a little whiff, you're not worried about other people smelling
it? It's just you?
I'm also worried about other people smelling it, but I don't want to smell myself smelling
bad. It's not because I'm trying to protect anybody
from anything.
I think body is for others, hair is for yourself.
Because everyone likes their own brand.
They're both for both.
Even when I smell bad, I'm like,
that's not terrible for me.
Not my hair.
Also, I don't like washing my hair.
I said Florida Georgia coach.
I meant to say former Georgia coach.
That was weird.
I just, Florida slipped out when I started thinking of an F word and the first one was
Florida which is what I've been thinking for the last week.
So I was a that was a verbal typo.
My hair looks better when it's dirty.
Honestly according to whom I've never seen your hair ever.
No you always wear a baseball cap.
I imagine you shower with a baseball cap like I never see your hair. You're never you never come in here wear a baseball cap. I imagine you shower with a baseball cap. Like, I never see your hair.
You never come in here without a baseball cap.
You never work a work day without a baseball cap, do you?
Yeah, sometimes.
Every now and then.
I like your hat today, by the way.
Thank you.
I got it for Arizona, the trip we just came on.
I was part of the Bird Gang.
How did I do in fantasy this week?
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At the top I was not again 400 place
But yeah, I know I feel about this string across the top of the hat
Controversial I've heard a lot of people really really hate it, but I I think it's kind of neat. I don't know
It's not bad. It looks like like piping on really old curtains. I think it looks modern though stringing along the I like to add a texture
I don't think it's that bad,'s in though, stringing along the burlap hat. I like the added texture, I don't think it's that bad.
But people have really hated the hats this year.
I didn't know that it had this on it when I purchased it.
I got it on Fanatics and I got it
because I didn't want to spend a ton of money
right beforehand, because that's what I did in Chicago.
So I said, you know what, I'm gonna go Fanatics.
There's always a sale on Fanatics,
so you pay full price, you're a fool.
Always a promo code.
So I had it ordered to my house,
I did it a week and a half beforehand.
It got there, Dan, I know you're wondering,
25 minutes before I left for the airport,
a week and a half later.
Almost missed it.
Almost had it.
I can show you how to ramp it if you want, Billy.
Really?
Okay, thank you.
Let's do that.
It's very easy to expense.
Have you guys seen the hats
that are like the upside down letters?
They're very popular right now
and I think they're very cool and I wanna buy one but I have a feeling that in like
three months they're gonna be so out.
It's kinda dumb, I'm not gonna lie, Lucy.
I think it would look cool for a few weeks
and then we're gonna just be like,
why do we have our letters upside down on the hats again?
The Florida Panthers have one that says
Panthers upside down.
What's the point of that?
They look cool.
It's handstands, cartwheels, you can read it.
They're aesthetic but I can tell it's a trend
and not something long standing.
Upside down letters, they're not gonna last, guys.
They're not.
I'm not the only person whose hair looks better
when it's dirty.
Yeah, day two, that's my best look.
The day after you wash your hair, it looks better
than the day you wash your hair.
The day I wash my hair, if I put in conditioner,
oof, it's a mess.
Don't they say you're not supposed to wash your hair
for like three weeks?
Yeah, I hate that.
No, that's not accurate. Don't they say you're not supposed to wash your hair for like three weeks? Yeah, I hate me. Studying on the same day.
No, I hate me.
That's not accurate.
They said that.
Jeans and hair, we don't know when to wash them.
That's not true.
I don't know about that.
Some people never wash their jeans.
The pants or?
I wash my jeans.
I feel like you should wash your jeans.
Some people have different rules about jeans.
Well, you're not supposed to wash them after every wear.
See, there we go.
That's what we're saying.
We're saying.
We can't agree.
There's no like, this is the rules on this.
You know what, I don't know suits.
Do you dry clean a suit every time you wear it?
You have to.
That's what I'm trying to figure out.
It's what you did.
Every time you wear it, you have to dry clean it.
It's a lot of dry cleaning, but like, come on.
Billy, if you wore a suit into the office as a bit
for like a one hour show, I would not get that dry cleaned.
But if you wore a suit to a wedding,
I would get that dry cleaned. I have a dirty little suit to a wedding, I would get that dry cleaned.
I have a dirty little secret.
Ooh.
Is it your hair?
No, no, that's, no, I washed it today,
that's why you're not gonna see it.
I had a dirty little secret.
I dry cleaned a suit the other day
and I had a two suit weekend,
like a situation where I needed to wear a suit
twice in the same weekend.
What a weekend.
It was something and then I had a decision to make,
do I wear two different suits or dare I wear the same weekend. What a weekend. It was something, and then I had a decision to make. Do I wear two different suits,
or dare I wear the same suit twice?
Because there was only two people along with me,
well I guess my children also,
but two adults along with me that would know
that I wore the same suit back to back days.
Changed the shirt, but I didn't wear a tie the second time.
Who are those adults?
Like are they people like?
My wife and my mother-in-law.
Oh, you're good.
Yeah.
So I was trying to figure out, I was gonna wear a different suit the second day, and then I was like, do I jacket, do I not jacket? Who are those adults? Like are there people like? My wife and my mother-in-law. Oh you're good. Yeah.
So I was trying to figure out, I was gonna wear a different suit the second day and then
I was like do I jacket, do I not jacket?
That's a whole thing.
When you're a guy you don't know if it's...
Because here's the thing, first one, baptism.
My daughter's baptism, have to wear a suit for that.
I knew one of these was a baptism.
Yeah my daughter's baptism, had to do it for that.
The other one, a quinceañera.
So what do I do for a quinceañera?
How do I go dress to this quinceanera?
That was the question.
And then I don't know.
Do I go suit jacket, do I not?
Cause you don't want to be overdressed,
you don't want to be underdressed.
So I ended up going suit, no tie, shirt.
And then I was wearing a very similar color scheme
to the father of the daughter.
And I was like, oh, I'm glad I didn't wear a tie.
Cause we would look like twinsies.
Also fun fact, ding dong.
Who's there? Jorge Salaire at the keen says wow?
Like a paid appearance or he just knew that
Uniform getting paid like six grand just to be there didn't dance just kind of hanging out with kids playing on the phone
No, no my daughter kept dancing with his wife and his daughter and I was, can you please stop it?
You're embarrassing me.
So you didn't talk to him?
I asked like we don't know the Salairs.
No, I didn't talk to him.
What was I gonna say?
Missed opportunity.
Ding dong.
Then the next day he was traded to the Angels.
Huh.
Weird weekend.
These are all just things that happened.
Facts, not connected, just all facts.
Why wouldn't you just talk to Jorge Saler?
He was with his family, I didn't wanna bother him.
Why would I bother him?
He was playing with his kids.
Because you were a fan and are a fan.
I didn't even know it was him, someone told me.
At a wedding, you didn't know it was him?
No, I mean, how, did you think I'd walk around
with Jorge Soler's baseball card checking to see who?
I'm guessing none of us would know.
Okay, hold on a second.
If you entered a room and Jorge Soler was there,
I don't think that you would know
it was him right off the bat.
Billy, I watched the Marlins season
when he hit 30 home runs. Same. Yes I would. No, I don't think so. What are you talking about? I don't think that you would know it was him right off the bat. Billy, Billy, I watched the Marlins season when he hit 30 home runs.
Yes I would.
Same.
No, I don't think so.
What are you talking about?
I don't think so.
In this scenario, I have him in a Braves uniform.
Okay.
Would you know Joey Wendell?
More difficult, but again, Soler hit 30.
He was in the lineup every day for a year.
Yep, he wasn't wearing his Marlins jersey at this thing.
And he's played for the Giants and the Braves.
He didn't have his number, his name on the back of his suit.
I think you think it's easy until you have to do it.
Exactly right, thanks.
That's it.
But what if he went home and he was sad,
no one recognized him and he was there and no one...
I'm with Billy though.
I always lean against, just leave him alone.
Yeah, he's there with his family.
They're playing on the phone, whatever.
Me and my dad a few weeks ago were at Hooters
before bowling, as we do, and we saw a former Marlins player
I'm not gonna say his name and I was like I was just like protecting
Look every time I say names around here everyone's like all they didn't want like no
It's no when you take pictures of Craig Minervini, and he doesn't know you're doing it and you post that well, dude
That was like ten years ago, right?
But so my dad I cuz that was like ten years ago right
My dad I cuz I was like ooh, there's that person I'm not gonna go up to them my dad was just like walked right up to him like hey, what's up, man?
Good to see you. That's good. Yeah, he's a legend. He doesn't care. It was it was Charles Johnson the former
And I have a relationship with him. We're not great friends, but I know enough to you know smooth with him
Yeah, it was an awkward
You build sources. I bet you CJ enjoyed it
Yeah, I was hoping it buy me a beer he never did you know, but I like him anyway
Dan told us a story just last week that he saw Pudge and he asked him about his statue
Like that's what you do when you see people if anything I was in there
Well, I don't have a relationship you avoid it so layer. I didn't avoid him. I just didn't leave avoided so layer
He didn't know he was there he did know he was there he was told he was
there I was told yeah someone said do you know do you know Jorge Soler he's a
baseball player he's at that he's over there and I was like yeah he was on the
Marlins Billy he was at this party no one no one recognized him or said hi and
he probably texted his agent said get me out of this town no one watches baseball
here they don't know who I am I need to go to a real baseball club. Well, he was in Atlanta last year.
Yeah, he's been traded like three times
since he left for the Netherlands.
Yeah, poor guy.
Oh, really?
Now he's in Anaheim?
Then there's no way you're gonna recognize him.
Your career's gonna die.
Can I be true to confidence here?
My mother-in-law afterwards was like,
you know, he's probably a multimillionaire.
And I'm like, oh, I know.
And then I looked him up and I'm like,
yeah, 130 multimillions.
He's made so much money.
Could you imagine making $130 million
and then going to a quinceañera on 8th Street
on a Sunday night?
How much do you think he paid the birthday girl?
I was wondering that too.
You have to give a good gift, right?
Like 10 grand, right?
That's why it was in high ed, right?
No chance.
No chance.
No, I think that it was like cousins
of the mother of the girl, yeah.
Man, where can't that guy bat 220 and hit 30 home runs?
I am legitimately surprised that Billy would watch
as many Marlins games as he does
and not recognize one of their best players.
I don't go up and just bother people also,
like that's another thing.
Why would I do, and also, like, why would I just assume
if someone looks like Jorge Soler,
they're Jorge Soler at a family member's quinceanera?
There's no connection there, in my mind.
Why would I think that?
Like, if Tom Cruise was there, I'd just be like,
hey, you're Tom Cruise, you definitely belong here.
No, you'd never think to say hello to him.
Penelope Cruise, maybe, but not Tom Cruise,
but Jorge Soler, absolutely.
I mean, he's Hispanic, he played in Miami, he's got relatives, he can go to a Quinceañera, sure.
I saw, I think it was, now this is weird.
I saw, I think it was like, who was it?
It was Gurriel, did he play for the Marlins too?
I think I saw Gurriel, was he on the Marlins?
Yeah, so I saw him when I was driving to work one day,
coming out of his house.
It was one of those days that weighs,
puts you and takes you on all these weird back roads.
And then I was looking and I was like,
wow, that's a green Lamborghini truck.
That seems like a weird fit for this house.
And then I saw the person coming out
and getting their mail in was him.
I was like, hmm, you live there, cool.
You recognized him immediately.
I did, yeah, because he had a hairstyle
that you would remember.
And again, he has a green Lamborghini,
so you see it and you're like, okay,
who has a green Lamborghini?
How is the group?
Look at me moving.
That's who has a green Lamborghini, me or him?
Yeah, I don't think so.
I almost hit Josh from the challenge
with my car the other day.
What?
Yeah, driving down the street.
My friend almost hit Bruno Mars with her car.
What?
Really?
Yeah, that was crazy.
He was not happy about it.
Yeah.
Sorry, Dan.
How is the group about approaching people
that they know or don't know in public who are famous
and they admire?
Because I would think that this group would
have a number of different responses
to that kind of
Situation I imagine Stu gots in all of those situations being shamelessly aggressive about asking for things. How hammered am I? I'm sober and I'm totally fine with it. So I don't care. I'll approach anyone and talk about anything
It's you know, small talk you got it
Like you got to work your way into the conversation and then suddenly you become friends and the next thing, you know
He's on the show. I mean, that's how I do it. Wow yeah I'm the
opposite I'm shy enough where I'm not gonna introduce myself to someone right
hey so-and-so I love your work or you know if I haven't met the person
previously I do not go up to them. One time, Dan, I was sitting on a plane next to Stanley Tucci.
Wow.
Really?
Yeah, but that is big.
Stanley Tucci?
Yeah.
And I said to myself before I fell asleep,
I had the window, and I was like,
wow, Devil Wears Prada, I gotta say something to him,
but not now, because it's weird,
there's a three hour flight, so I just go to sleep,
and as I'm waking up,
getting off the plane, hey Tooch,
love you in Devil Wears Prada, and then we move on.
Oh, I love him so much.
That's the way to do it, you either don't say anything,
or you're just like real quick,
like appreciate your work and walk away.
But I've had this before where it's like
I'm sitting at like a dinner,
like I'm at dinner with someone, and at the very end,
they're like, hey, big fan of the show,
that's almost creepier, it's like,
oh, so you've been sitting here the whole time, like I'd rather you do it on the front end they're like hey big fan of the show that's almost creepier it's like
you've been sitting here the whole time like i'd rather you do it on the front end if i'm being honest just like toot big fan of your work i'm gonna go go to sleep now like doing it at the end
it's just uneasy the whole flight chris he's wondering is he going to continue to talk to me
is he looking up my imdb right now he's sitting there at the end of the flight saying was that
guy thinking about me the entire is he thinks that you were looking
At him the whole flight like oh, man. I'm saying this is Stanley Tucci
I was definitely it was famous people notice when you glance at them and recognize them even if you think you didn't
You've even if you think you did it slightly he knows that you knew
So you're saying I should have said something early. I
Well earlier not at all I thought like I could win him over as a friend
So that's a different conversation
the thing that I don't think you guys are allowing for and the only reason that I'm saying this is because it's
Happened to me one time that I could remember I'm in the Louvre and I'm looking at Jason Lee and
I'm looking at him with the same look that he's looking at me
Which is I'm like is that Jason Lee and he to be like, is that Dan Lebatard?
Because some of you are actually known,
there is the possibility that Billy can run into
Jorge Soler and that Soler, now Soler is not a great example.
Soler was not sitting there thinking, who is that?
Yeah, I know, Billy gonna come say hi to me?
It's happened, it has happened to people on our show
with middle relievers, with people in the bullpen
who will look up in the stands and be like,
I listened to your show, it has happened.
And so I'm saying it can happen when you're looking
at somebody not sure if they are who you think they are
and they're looking at you not sure if you are
who they think they are.
Do you ever have people come up to you
and they ask if you're who you are and you say no?
I had someone come up to me and be like,
are you Lucy?
And then he was like, actually,
Lucy's a lot taller than you are.
And I was like, yeah, I'm not her,
but I do get that all the time.
And then he like kept talking to me about me
and he was like, yeah, she's like several inches taller
than you are.
And I said, yeah, I've never met her, I don't know, and then eventually someone came up
and called me Lucy, and he was like, are you serious?
And I was like, oh, yeah, gotcha.
That's probably a better experience.
But he said nice things about me, just that I was short.
I saw Terrell Suggs at the Louvre once.
I took a picture with him, and I was like,
hey, all my girlfriends, this was in college,
all my girlfriends were like, who is that?
I was like, don't worry about it,
we're taking a picture with Terrell Suggs, so we took a picture with him, and then I was like, by the way, I'm a Steelers in college all my girlfriends were like who's that? I was like don't worry about we're taking a picture with Terrell sucks
So we took a picture with him and then I was like by the way, I'm a Steelers fan
And he was like ah screw you
Put it on the pole please juju is the Louvre the place to go so did Jason Lee come up to you
How did that story now? We just sort of stared at each other and made that
of that story. No, we just sort of stared at each other
and made that recognition very, very clearly.
This story was different to me
because I thought you said the loot
and you were staring at each other in the bathroom.
That felt different.
Remember when that guy at Magic City said
that Woody was taking a shit in the bathroom?
Well, he went and talked to him while he was doing that,
which seems incredibly invasive,
and that is not something I would do to anybody in the world.
Although I do have a friend who was bragging one time
about being, and this seemed like an awful story.
It just, it felt unpleasant, all of it.
Being at a nightclub and having Jim Brown's hand
come down under the partition and be like,
can I have some toilet paper?
There's no toilet paper over here.
He knew he was sitting next to Jim Brown.
Jim Brown was sitting next to him
and then Jim Brown's hand comes out.
That's a story right there.
That is awesome.
The hand of Jim Brown.
I cannot spare a square.
Dan, before the show ends today,
I want you to be aware of something.
A fan sent us two hats, one for you and one for me,
from Incarnate Ward, the school in Texas that we. I want you to be aware of something. A fan sent us two hats, one for you and one for me,
from Incarnate Ward, the school in Texas
that we talked about last week
that you could not pronounce the name of.
And they were like, someone else,
I don't know if it was the same person,
but they sent me a tweet and they were like,
thanks for standing up for Incarnate Ward.
And I was like, I didn't say anything nice
about Incarnate Ward, I simply pronounced
the name Incarnate Ward correctly.
So we got hats because of that.
Way to go.
Okay, excellent.
Thank you for the contribution.
I still can't pronounce it.
Incarnate ward is how I pronounce it.
No, that's a wide receiver.
That's correct.
That is not correct.
I got it wrong.
Hinds ward.
There it is.
Just a useless joke.
Love Hinds ward.
Just useless.
Just a, it's the Kornheiser humor. I'm telling you,
there's an age, I think it might be 70, where all you've got in the tank on your humor is
you just say another ward that is like the previous word.
Cam Lard.
That's correct.
God.
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Don libertard. Is there back in my day? There is actually.
Are you not going to tell anyone? was a Tuesday! Wait a minute, you guys... It was a Tuesday! Guys, it's a Tuesday.
Stugats!
Here's your guy, Greg Cody, with Back in My Day.
Shit, I thought I helped my ass.
Ha ha!
Okay, here it is.
Sorry.
Adultery!
No!
Yeah!
We are back!
Again.
Waiting for this one!
This is the Don LeBataar Show with the Stugats!
Five, four, three, two, one.
How about that?
Did I do it right?
Well you're supposed to say something after that.
Oh are you?
Yeah after the countdown.
What do I know?
Chris wanted you to start the segment there.
That's scary.
Yeah.
I don't think you want to trust me to start a segment.
Well you seem like you were scared of it so.
I was.
Yeah.
I'm like a horse in a trailer at 85 miles an hour.
I'm terrified.
No they're not. I know. I'm just kidding. in a trailer at 85 miles an hour. I'm terrified. No, they're not
I know I'm just kidding you were two for two, but you're into this Jake Paul Mike Tyson fight
Aren't you you know I am and I'm not a big pay-per-view guy, right?
But I think I might fork up some money to watch this fight. Well luckily if you have Netflix, I think you're good
Oh, am I yeah, just on Netflix. You're already paying for it. There you go. Okay, right
I don't know. I have pay-per-view. What do I know? It's very confusing. I'm waiting. It is confusing. You're right. Yeah, PPV
I'm the world's biggest Mike Tyson fan until the fights over then I don't really care
But I'm just not a big Jake Paul fan
I think this is a classic Greg Cody in his you know, 70 years old still thinking he can kick a 50 yard field goal.
This is you thinking that Mike Tyson can still be
the Mike Tyson of old.
I think a lot of people are worried about Mike Tyson
in this fight.
That if he takes a blow from Jake Paul,
that this could do some serious damage to an older man.
You think your dad is headed into it with the expectation
that Mike Tyson is still going
to be Mike Tyson?
Yes.
Yeah.
I think this.
I think Mike Tyson has enough in a punch where if he lands one just right, it will hurt Jake
Paul.
Oh, Jake Paul will be out.
Yes.
Yes.
I'm counting on, I'm not counting on stamina.
I'm not counting on him being the Mike Tyson of old
for five rounds.
I'm counting on a quick finish, a quick strike,
that, and I know there's a big height advantage.
I imagine there's a reach advantage as well for Jake Paul.
I'm curious what Tyson looks like
after that first two minutes of like,
he's gonna come out, he's gonna try to do his thing.
Can he, does he have his wind?
But I think what your dad is saying is Tyson has to get it
done inside of two minutes or he's not gonna get it done.
Pretty much.
What if this is just Mike Tyson and Jake Paul
looking for a payday and they're gonna play patty cake
and everyone's gonna be like, oh this is not a real fight.
This is clearly just them and look at all the suckers
watching this fight and they're just dancing around the ring
because they are friends.
Like I just find, I don't know man.
And as I've seen. I understand why your dad doesn't like Jake Paul. I think it's not you don't it's not that you don't like them
It seems like a boxing gimmick the whole it does. Yes, it does
No, I admit that and and what makes me suspicious is the idea that alright somebody's gonna win
There's gonna be a rematch the other guy is gonna win and then there's gonna big be the big third fight the winner takes it. I don't think Tyson has multiple fights. No he's got two
minutes in him. I don't know he looks good for his age. He's only 58 he's not that old.
Right but for that to play out Tyson has to win the first one I think right. I mean okay
so I just googled what their paydays are supposed to be for this. The expected
purse for Jake Paul is 40 million dollars. The expected purse for Jake Paul is $40 million,
and the expected purse for Mike Tyson is $20 million.
Why is that?
How is that possible?
Respect.
I know Jake Paul is a draw,
but the last few fights of his have not been that popular.
Everyone's talking about this one.
Mike Tyson, to me, that should be a 50-50 split
on that money.
I don't know how this works,
but I'm honestly wondering how you generate 60 million dollars off of this fight on Netflix
Which is a subscription based thing and they're not charging for the fight
So like you I don't think anyone is signing up for Netflix to watch this fight that doesn't already have it, right?
How the person what is what is the gate gonna be like it just seems like I guess they're gonna sell some
Advertising in it,, but how are you generating
this much money that you're guaranteeing
Jake Paul $40 million for a fight?
But in terms of the disparity in how much
they're getting paid, and we all agree Tyson
should be getting paid more, well at least the same.
Let's just say that.
I think more.
But is it, it's a Jake Paul production, is it not?
I believe it's his company.
He's got a whole production company,
so that's probably why he gets more money.
So he's taking the bigger, yeah.
He's probably paying for everything.
Right. You know what I mean?
Like where Mike Tyson is just getting paid to show up.
He's getting 20 million with no expenses, you know?
I would think, and this obviously,
I'm probably gonna sound dumb for saying this,
but like I would think Jake Paul
is probably bringing more eyes to this fight than Mike Tyson.
So I would agree with you, Billy, but for people like me and Greg Cody, we don't want to believe
that.
No, I know that.
We probably know it, but we don't want to believe it.
By the way, I would also say that Mike Tyson is bringing more eyes to a Jake Paul fight
than a Jake Paul fight against someone else would also, if that makes sense.
I agree on both concepts.
I think, okay, let me rephrase this.
I think if Jake Paul was having a fight and Mike Tyson was having a fight,
Jake Paul would out draw a Mike Tyson fight
at this point in time.
But I feel like Mike Tyson going to a Jake Paul fight
would out draw any other Jake Paul fight
that he could possibly have.
So the two of them together is a perfect match.
Where does Jake Paul go from here?
I mean, he should take a fall, honestly. I know people are saying that Mike Tyson will take a fall. If Jake loses and they make this
like and it's like competitive enough that they make this trilogy. Oh man, wouldn't that
be great? I'm reading that Jake Paul has predicted that this will get 25 million viewers, which
would be by far the most watched boxing match of all time. But to Billy's point, it's not
pay-per-view. Netflix is already something you're paying for. Yeah. Which is why it probably most watched boxing match of all time. But to Billy's point, it's not pay per view.
Netflix is already something you're paying for.
Which is why he's predicting so many viewers
because so many people already have Netflix.
Right.
By the way, like ESPN Plus does it with UFC, right?
Where like, you're just like, oh, it's like they,
you know, have their deal with ESPN Plus
and you have to pay for ESPN Plus,
but then you have to pay for the UFC fight
on top of the ESPN Plus.
That's not how this is working with this fight, my understanding you just if you have Netflix you can watch it
You turn on Netflix the fight is there
Yeah, no one's so I understand what you're saying Chris in terms of telling us the audience of what Jake Paul expects
But no one's paying for because they're already getting it. You just turn on your Netflix. It's there
They don't tell you numbers ever like they like with the Brady roast
They don't tell you numbers, but they say hey, this was the most watched thing ever You know, they're gonna do this with this now they think't tell you numbers ever, like with the Brady roast. They don't tell you numbers, but they say, hey, this was the most watched thing ever.
You know they're gonna do this with this box.
No, they give you numbers,
but they give you like 75 billion streamed minutes.
And it's like, hold on a second.
Divided by how many?
Well, that was like six hours long,
six hours times 60, what is that?
Like 3,600 minutes, something like that.
Like that's how we get to a billion real quick, right?
That Tom Brady roast, way too long.
Can we agree on that?
Way too long.
Way, way too long.
Like you're starting to understand why I guess
the Comedy Central ones were done days before
and then edited down to an hour because man,
three and a half hours or whatever that Brady roast was,
was never, I sat down three different times
to try to finish it, I never finished it.
And Andrew Schultz who went like last, he was funny,
but I feel like people were just tired at that point.
Like I feel like his set would have gotten more laughs
if it was like an hour two,
but it was like one of the last ones
where people were just like, I'm done.
He got a bad draw.
Yeah.
And I get it, they were probably going with him
as like one of the closers, but it's just, it was too long.
You wanna go like third.
Same thing with like this fight,
like where there's an undercard.
Where do you wanna fight on this card?
They can't have too many fights
because here's the thing about this, right?
Is that at the end of the day, it's still boxing, right?
So if you don't care about boxing,
but you like the spectacle,
are you gonna sit through two hours of boxing matches
that you don't care about to get to this fight at the end?
Oh, I'm not watching an undercard.
I mean, I just wanna see Tyson for two minutes.
That's it.
That's me too.
I think there's an interesting dynamic to this fight though because for a lot of his
career Mike Tyson sort of played the villain.
He was the guy that a lot of fans were rooting against.
I think it's the opposite now.
And largely because of the age difference, I think 80% of America is rooting for Tyson to win,
whether or not they have a bet on the fight.
I agree.
I mean, I think most people.
No, but I think we're making a mistake
with just how popular Jay Paul has become
with younger people.
No, yeah.
Yeah, but I just feel like even some of those younger people,
like maybe I'm wrong.
Maybe I'm just doing my age,
but he's very punchable. No. But he's very punchable.
No, but he is very punchable.
My daughter wants to watch the fight.
She has no idea who Mike Tyson is.
Wow.
She's watching for Jake Paul.
That's impossible.
She has, Billy.
She's never seen the Hangover?
She's for sure knows Mike Tyson through pop culture.
Maybe not as like a fighter.
I asked her, do you know who Mike Tyson is?
She said, no, I have no idea.
Now maybe that would jog, so I have no idea, but she's watching it for Jay Paul. That's all
I'm saying. Me and Greg as older people are probably not giving Jay Paul enough credit
and thinking Tyson is the draw here. Tyson is the draw for us, not for everyone else.
I don't think that's a good point the idea that your grown daughter would never have heard of Mike Tyson is surprising
But I guess it shouldn't shock me. He is 58 right at what age are you grown?
I mean, I think when you're away 20. Yeah, you're growing. Yeah, she's grown and she's always your little girl. Yeah always
Both of them Emma and Rachel. What's the most wrong you've ever them. the tight ends coach. he was the interim coach in 2015. But when the Lions made him their head coach, I laughed at the Lions. I'm like, there's no way that meathead is going to be able to galvanize a team and lead that team into the playoffs and take an organization like the Lions, who I would say over the last 40 years, much like the Jets,
have been the worst organization, not just in the NFL,
anywhere in sports.
That's how bad the Lions were before Dan Campbell took over.
And I said, Dan Campbell is not going to fix this mess.
Dan Campbell has fixed this mess.
So much so, I wish he was my head coach. I do. So I was, Dan Campbell,
I apologize. I was wrong about you. You're not a bad head coach. You're not a good head
coach. You're a great head coach. The Dolphins have had some funny coaches in that, like,
you remember Tony Spirano, and it wasn't even something that he did here, but Tony Spirano
did one of the funniest things that I remember a coach doing so he became he went to Oakland after he was here
Maybe a stopper too later
And he took over as the interim head coach of the Raiders when they fired someone and he decided to kind of set the tone
After he took over to bury a football. Yeah
That's coaching very Dan Campbell move on it really is really is. They had both of them in this building.
I don't know why we couldn't have had these moments here.
Yeah, well, I remember Dave wants that when he was here.
Ah, the lobster trap.
The lobster trap.
The week of a trap game,
there would be all these New England lobster traps
all over the locker room.
It was like, really?
Yeah.
Grown ass men playing or like getting inspired
by a locker room? A big part of coaching is props,
I think.
I think a big part of coaching is props.
I agree with you, but I also think it's
that guy played the game.
And like, I don't know what I was doing with Dan Campbell
when the Lions decided to make him the head coach.
He just, he's unlike physically,
he is unlike any coach we've ever he's unlike physically. He is unlike any
coach we've ever seen in the NFL, but he does a great job
of making those players feel like he's in the game with
those players. I was telling you off air and I mean this
entirely. He looks like a guy you could put him in a uniform
put him in the game for a couple of series at Linebacker.
Get your sack.
And he wouldn't embarrass you.
He would look like a player out there.
I don't know how old he is.
He's probably in his mid 40s.
48.
Yeah.
He looks like, speaking of Mike Tyson,
he looks like for a short period,
he could still fake being a player.
Let's relive Dan Campbell's introductory press conference.
This team's gonna be built on,
we're gonna kick you in the teeth, all right?
And when you punch us back, we're gonna smile at you.
And when you knock us down, we're gonna get up.
And on the way up, we're gonna bite a kneecap off, all right?
And we're gonna stand up, and then it's gonna take
two more shots to knock us down, all right?
And on the way up, we're gonna take your other kneecap,
and we're gonna get up,
and then it's gonna take three shots to get us down. And when we do, we're going to take your other kneecap and we're going to get up and then it's going to take three shots to get us down.
And when we do, we're going to take another honk out of you before before long.
Where are they going to be the last one standing? All right.
That's going to be the mentality. All right.
And we're going to learn that any loss that we take, we're going to make sure we feel the full pain of it and not go numb to it.
Thank you for playing that because it was after that where I thought there's no way this guy is gonna have any sort of success
And the neat the bite you in the kneecap thing. Yes that comes back to haunt you if you prove not to be a good coach
It's like yeah, how's that biting the kneecap of the opponent working? Yeah, you know when you're three and seven Yep, but now he looks like a genius. He does I mean in macho man, you know macho coach
Can I tell you something?
I was really happy for him when they came back
and they beat the Texans this week, and this is why.
And I felt like I saw an evolution of Dan Campbell
in that they came back and their last two drives
ended with field goals.
And I was like, wow, and he looked happy.
He's learning.
Look, we kicked these field goals,
we ended up winning this game.
The whole story was about Jake Bates,
the ol' bricklayer that now is a kicker in the NFL.
But I saw Dan Kam and I'm like, you know what?
I feel really good for this guy.
Like, all the criticism that he would go
for being too aggressive, whatever,
he settled for two field goals,
ends up having a giant comeback win
because it was looking early on
like the Texans were gonna blow them out
and somewhat expose them, but no,
they came right back at it, did the regular football thing,
kicked some field goals, took the points,
you escaped with a win, eight and one.
He's so right, Billy, I was thinking that Campbell
was just gonna be like, no, we're scoring.
On this final drive, he played the clock,
he just took the field goal, I thought he would be like,
no, no, we don't do that around here,
we try to score touchdowns.
Wrong coach, that's Nick Sirianni.
The bricklayer, the bricklayer also two really close kicks to missing.
Great story. Almost horrible.
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