The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 2: Stugotz Issues An Apology

Episode Date: November 12, 2024

Do you have to earn a shower? Do you shower for yourself or for others? Syracuse Coach Fran Brown has us asking these hygiene questions and more. Then, Billy shares a secret about wearing a suit more ...than once, and he tells us the story of bumping into Jorge Soler at a quinceañera. How do handle it if you see a celebrity somewhere? Do you introduce yourself? Do you take a picture? What if you tangentially know them? The crew dives into their celebrity stories including Soler, Jason Lee, Charles Johnson, Terrell Suggs, and Stanley Tucci. Plus, Greg still believes in Mike Tyson ahead of one of the strangest fights in recent memory between Tyson and Jake Paul on Netflix. Also, Stugotz has some words for Lions coach Dan Campbell. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:50 No purchase necessary. 21 plus ends November 15th, 2024. See rules at website for participating area and other important details. Sponsored by Diageo Americas, Inc., New York, New York. This is the Don LeBattor Show with the StuGuts Podcast. The John Leavittor Show with the Stugats Podcast. Chris, why are you obsessed with the Syracuse coach? Oh my God, I'm so glad we got to this.
Starting point is 00:01:12 As my dad is clackity clack clackin' away on his typewriter. Dad, we've started. Greg, we've started. We're doing show. We're doing show. Greg, you gotta put your headset on. You gotta stop your clackity clackin'.
Starting point is 00:01:22 Is this the Syracuse football coach? This is the Syracuse football coach, and they took a tough L this week. And I'm just gonna let this guy speak for himself, but I am mesmerized by this. Honestly, I got like a ritual, like when we lose, I ain't even getting a shower till early this morning. I just be mad, I just brush my teeth.
Starting point is 00:01:40 But it's like, I don't deserve soap, I don't deserve to do all that. I just, I'm just focused on like trying to get back and trying to make sure that our players mentally understand and know that I let them down, that they didn't do it. There's a process that I follow every week. One loser draw, only thing is like,
Starting point is 00:01:55 my wife, I can't sleep in the bed if we lose cause I ain't gonna get in the shower for that day. I'm just mad and I just sit there. I just brush my teeth. That's what I have to do so y'all won't say my breath stinks, but I'm just kinda locked in on certain things, certain ways, I think you gotta earn the right
Starting point is 00:02:13 to do certain things, so you know, winners get washed. You know what I'm saying? I'm a loser, I just kinda waited a little bit. I'm just confused on the distinction where win or lose, your teeth get cleaned. But to me me it would just be like one thing like after a loss I don't wash anything or like he's just like my knees my back no soap for me But I need toothpaste obviously I need toothpaste seems willy-nilly I mean, I don't think so I think it's principled
Starting point is 00:02:39 And I think he's being a nice man by protecting us from his breath. The rest of him is not likely to stink the way that his breath would stink, unbrushed. Put it on the poll, please, Juju, at LeBittard Show. Do you have to earn your soap at LeBittard Show? That's insane to me. Winners get washed is what the logo, the motto he's trying to go with, it's like a coffee is for closers thing.
Starting point is 00:03:01 No, washing is not for you, it's for others. You are around other people. Wash yourself, man. All right, put that on the poll as well, Juju, at LeBittard Show. Washing for you or for others? Because I don't feel like I'm washing for others, but he was definitely brushing his teeth for others.
Starting point is 00:03:18 But he said he can't sleep in the bed with his wife because he stinks. You're washing for her, not for you. What happens if they lose their bowl game? I mean, this is not gonna be pretty. That's a long off season. I've never heard of the phrase having to earn the right to take a shower.
Starting point is 00:03:35 I've never heard of that before. You like it though, huh? He has invented that, and I give him credit for it. Fran Brown is his name, incidentally, because I feel like we're all talking around that for some reason. We know his name. Florida Georgia coach.
Starting point is 00:03:50 Does a shower in the pool count here? Yes. Can you do that after a lot? No, that doesn't count. That does not count. It always counts. That does not count. I have not heard of Izzy's theory there
Starting point is 00:04:01 of cleaning for others. I don't believe that that is something that one does. I clean for myself to remain clean, not for others. It's not because I don't want to stink for others, it's because I don't want to stink for myself. So when you give yourself a little whiff, you're not worried about other people smelling it? It's just you? I'm also worried about other people smelling it, but I don't want to smell myself smelling bad. It's not because I'm trying to protect anybody
Starting point is 00:04:25 from anything. I think body is for others, hair is for yourself. Because everyone likes their own brand. They're both for both. Even when I smell bad, I'm like, that's not terrible for me. Not my hair. Also, I don't like washing my hair.
Starting point is 00:04:37 I said Florida Georgia coach. I meant to say former Georgia coach. That was weird. I just, Florida slipped out when I started thinking of an F word and the first one was Florida which is what I've been thinking for the last week. So I was a that was a verbal typo. My hair looks better when it's dirty. Honestly according to whom I've never seen your hair ever.
Starting point is 00:05:00 No you always wear a baseball cap. I imagine you shower with a baseball cap like I never see your hair. You're never you never come in here wear a baseball cap. I imagine you shower with a baseball cap. Like, I never see your hair. You never come in here without a baseball cap. You never work a work day without a baseball cap, do you? Yeah, sometimes. Every now and then. I like your hat today, by the way. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:05:17 I got it for Arizona, the trip we just came on. I was part of the Bird Gang. How did I do in fantasy this week? Great question, Jess. Listener League, not a good week for me. Finished in the low 400s again. If you want, you can compete against us. Join GFB's, GBF's weekly fantasy football contest.
Starting point is 00:05:35 Dkng.co slash Smirnoff, presented by Smirnoff, the world's number one vodka. Please drink responsibly. Three dollars, that's all it takes to kind of join and you can win a lot more than that if you're you know At the top I was not again 400 place But yeah, I know I feel about this string across the top of the hat Controversial I've heard a lot of people really really hate it, but I I think it's kind of neat. I don't know
Starting point is 00:05:57 It's not bad. It looks like like piping on really old curtains. I think it looks modern though stringing along the I like to add a texture I don't think it's that bad,'s in though, stringing along the burlap hat. I like the added texture, I don't think it's that bad. But people have really hated the hats this year. I didn't know that it had this on it when I purchased it. I got it on Fanatics and I got it because I didn't want to spend a ton of money right beforehand, because that's what I did in Chicago. So I said, you know what, I'm gonna go Fanatics.
Starting point is 00:06:17 There's always a sale on Fanatics, so you pay full price, you're a fool. Always a promo code. So I had it ordered to my house, I did it a week and a half beforehand. It got there, Dan, I know you're wondering, 25 minutes before I left for the airport, a week and a half later.
Starting point is 00:06:29 Almost missed it. Almost had it. I can show you how to ramp it if you want, Billy. Really? Okay, thank you. Let's do that. It's very easy to expense. Have you guys seen the hats
Starting point is 00:06:38 that are like the upside down letters? They're very popular right now and I think they're very cool and I wanna buy one but I have a feeling that in like three months they're gonna be so out. It's kinda dumb, I'm not gonna lie, Lucy. I think it would look cool for a few weeks and then we're gonna just be like, why do we have our letters upside down on the hats again?
Starting point is 00:06:55 The Florida Panthers have one that says Panthers upside down. What's the point of that? They look cool. It's handstands, cartwheels, you can read it. They're aesthetic but I can tell it's a trend and not something long standing. Upside down letters, they're not gonna last, guys.
Starting point is 00:07:09 They're not. I'm not the only person whose hair looks better when it's dirty. Yeah, day two, that's my best look. The day after you wash your hair, it looks better than the day you wash your hair. The day I wash my hair, if I put in conditioner, oof, it's a mess.
Starting point is 00:07:20 Don't they say you're not supposed to wash your hair for like three weeks? Yeah, I hate that. No, that's not accurate. Don't they say you're not supposed to wash your hair for like three weeks? Yeah, I hate me. Studying on the same day. No, I hate me. That's not accurate. They said that. Jeans and hair, we don't know when to wash them.
Starting point is 00:07:31 That's not true. I don't know about that. Some people never wash their jeans. The pants or? I wash my jeans. I feel like you should wash your jeans. Some people have different rules about jeans. Well, you're not supposed to wash them after every wear.
Starting point is 00:07:41 See, there we go. That's what we're saying. We're saying. We can't agree. There's no like, this is the rules on this. You know what, I don't know suits. Do you dry clean a suit every time you wear it? You have to.
Starting point is 00:07:50 That's what I'm trying to figure out. It's what you did. Every time you wear it, you have to dry clean it. It's a lot of dry cleaning, but like, come on. Billy, if you wore a suit into the office as a bit for like a one hour show, I would not get that dry cleaned. But if you wore a suit to a wedding, I would get that dry cleaned. I have a dirty little suit to a wedding, I would get that dry cleaned.
Starting point is 00:08:05 I have a dirty little secret. Ooh. Is it your hair? No, no, that's, no, I washed it today, that's why you're not gonna see it. I had a dirty little secret. I dry cleaned a suit the other day and I had a two suit weekend,
Starting point is 00:08:18 like a situation where I needed to wear a suit twice in the same weekend. What a weekend. It was something and then I had a decision to make, do I wear two different suits or dare I wear the same weekend. What a weekend. It was something, and then I had a decision to make. Do I wear two different suits, or dare I wear the same suit twice? Because there was only two people along with me, well I guess my children also,
Starting point is 00:08:31 but two adults along with me that would know that I wore the same suit back to back days. Changed the shirt, but I didn't wear a tie the second time. Who are those adults? Like are they people like? My wife and my mother-in-law. Oh, you're good. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:44 So I was trying to figure out, I was gonna wear a different suit the second day, and then I was like, do I jacket, do I not jacket? Who are those adults? Like are there people like? My wife and my mother-in-law. Oh you're good. Yeah. So I was trying to figure out, I was gonna wear a different suit the second day and then I was like do I jacket, do I not jacket? That's a whole thing. When you're a guy you don't know if it's... Because here's the thing, first one, baptism. My daughter's baptism, have to wear a suit for that. I knew one of these was a baptism.
Starting point is 00:08:58 Yeah my daughter's baptism, had to do it for that. The other one, a quinceañera. So what do I do for a quinceañera? How do I go dress to this quinceanera? That was the question. And then I don't know. Do I go suit jacket, do I not? Cause you don't want to be overdressed,
Starting point is 00:09:11 you don't want to be underdressed. So I ended up going suit, no tie, shirt. And then I was wearing a very similar color scheme to the father of the daughter. And I was like, oh, I'm glad I didn't wear a tie. Cause we would look like twinsies. Also fun fact, ding dong. Who's there? Jorge Salaire at the keen says wow?
Starting point is 00:09:28 Like a paid appearance or he just knew that Uniform getting paid like six grand just to be there didn't dance just kind of hanging out with kids playing on the phone No, no my daughter kept dancing with his wife and his daughter and I was, can you please stop it? You're embarrassing me. So you didn't talk to him? I asked like we don't know the Salairs. No, I didn't talk to him. What was I gonna say?
Starting point is 00:09:50 Missed opportunity. Ding dong. Then the next day he was traded to the Angels. Huh. Weird weekend. These are all just things that happened. Facts, not connected, just all facts. Why wouldn't you just talk to Jorge Saler?
Starting point is 00:10:01 He was with his family, I didn't wanna bother him. Why would I bother him? He was playing with his kids. Because you were a fan and are a fan. I didn't even know it was him, someone told me. At a wedding, you didn't know it was him? No, I mean, how, did you think I'd walk around with Jorge Soler's baseball card checking to see who?
Starting point is 00:10:14 I'm guessing none of us would know. Okay, hold on a second. If you entered a room and Jorge Soler was there, I don't think that you would know it was him right off the bat. Billy, I watched the Marlins season when he hit 30 home runs. Same. Yes I would. No, I don't think so. What are you talking about? I don't think that you would know it was him right off the bat. Billy, Billy, I watched the Marlins season when he hit 30 home runs. Yes I would.
Starting point is 00:10:27 Same. No, I don't think so. What are you talking about? I don't think so. In this scenario, I have him in a Braves uniform. Okay. Would you know Joey Wendell? More difficult, but again, Soler hit 30.
Starting point is 00:10:37 He was in the lineup every day for a year. Yep, he wasn't wearing his Marlins jersey at this thing. And he's played for the Giants and the Braves. He didn't have his number, his name on the back of his suit. I think you think it's easy until you have to do it. Exactly right, thanks. That's it. But what if he went home and he was sad,
Starting point is 00:10:51 no one recognized him and he was there and no one... I'm with Billy though. I always lean against, just leave him alone. Yeah, he's there with his family. They're playing on the phone, whatever. Me and my dad a few weeks ago were at Hooters before bowling, as we do, and we saw a former Marlins player I'm not gonna say his name and I was like I was just like protecting
Starting point is 00:11:14 Look every time I say names around here everyone's like all they didn't want like no It's no when you take pictures of Craig Minervini, and he doesn't know you're doing it and you post that well, dude That was like ten years ago, right? But so my dad I cuz that was like ten years ago right My dad I cuz I was like ooh, there's that person I'm not gonna go up to them my dad was just like walked right up to him like hey, what's up, man? Good to see you. That's good. Yeah, he's a legend. He doesn't care. It was it was Charles Johnson the former And I have a relationship with him. We're not great friends, but I know enough to you know smooth with him Yeah, it was an awkward
Starting point is 00:11:46 You build sources. I bet you CJ enjoyed it Yeah, I was hoping it buy me a beer he never did you know, but I like him anyway Dan told us a story just last week that he saw Pudge and he asked him about his statue Like that's what you do when you see people if anything I was in there Well, I don't have a relationship you avoid it so layer. I didn't avoid him. I just didn't leave avoided so layer He didn't know he was there he did know he was there he was told he was there I was told yeah someone said do you know do you know Jorge Soler he's a baseball player he's at that he's over there and I was like yeah he was on the
Starting point is 00:12:15 Marlins Billy he was at this party no one no one recognized him or said hi and he probably texted his agent said get me out of this town no one watches baseball here they don't know who I am I need to go to a real baseball club. Well, he was in Atlanta last year. Yeah, he's been traded like three times since he left for the Netherlands. Yeah, poor guy. Oh, really? Now he's in Anaheim?
Starting point is 00:12:30 Then there's no way you're gonna recognize him. Your career's gonna die. Can I be true to confidence here? My mother-in-law afterwards was like, you know, he's probably a multimillionaire. And I'm like, oh, I know. And then I looked him up and I'm like, yeah, 130 multimillions.
Starting point is 00:12:44 He's made so much money. Could you imagine making $130 million and then going to a quinceañera on 8th Street on a Sunday night? How much do you think he paid the birthday girl? I was wondering that too. You have to give a good gift, right? Like 10 grand, right?
Starting point is 00:12:57 That's why it was in high ed, right? No chance. No chance. No, I think that it was like cousins of the mother of the girl, yeah. Man, where can't that guy bat 220 and hit 30 home runs? I am legitimately surprised that Billy would watch as many Marlins games as he does
Starting point is 00:13:13 and not recognize one of their best players. I don't go up and just bother people also, like that's another thing. Why would I do, and also, like, why would I just assume if someone looks like Jorge Soler, they're Jorge Soler at a family member's quinceanera? There's no connection there, in my mind. Why would I think that?
Starting point is 00:13:31 Like, if Tom Cruise was there, I'd just be like, hey, you're Tom Cruise, you definitely belong here. No, you'd never think to say hello to him. Penelope Cruise, maybe, but not Tom Cruise, but Jorge Soler, absolutely. I mean, he's Hispanic, he played in Miami, he's got relatives, he can go to a Quinceañera, sure. I saw, I think it was, now this is weird. I saw, I think it was like, who was it?
Starting point is 00:13:54 It was Gurriel, did he play for the Marlins too? I think I saw Gurriel, was he on the Marlins? Yeah, so I saw him when I was driving to work one day, coming out of his house. It was one of those days that weighs, puts you and takes you on all these weird back roads. And then I was looking and I was like, wow, that's a green Lamborghini truck.
Starting point is 00:14:13 That seems like a weird fit for this house. And then I saw the person coming out and getting their mail in was him. I was like, hmm, you live there, cool. You recognized him immediately. I did, yeah, because he had a hairstyle that you would remember. And again, he has a green Lamborghini,
Starting point is 00:14:27 so you see it and you're like, okay, who has a green Lamborghini? How is the group? Look at me moving. That's who has a green Lamborghini, me or him? Yeah, I don't think so. I almost hit Josh from the challenge with my car the other day.
Starting point is 00:14:40 What? Yeah, driving down the street. My friend almost hit Bruno Mars with her car. What? Really? Yeah, that was crazy. He was not happy about it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:49 Sorry, Dan. How is the group about approaching people that they know or don't know in public who are famous and they admire? Because I would think that this group would have a number of different responses to that kind of Situation I imagine Stu gots in all of those situations being shamelessly aggressive about asking for things. How hammered am I? I'm sober and I'm totally fine with it. So I don't care. I'll approach anyone and talk about anything
Starting point is 00:15:17 It's you know, small talk you got it Like you got to work your way into the conversation and then suddenly you become friends and the next thing, you know He's on the show. I mean, that's how I do it. Wow yeah I'm the opposite I'm shy enough where I'm not gonna introduce myself to someone right hey so-and-so I love your work or you know if I haven't met the person previously I do not go up to them. One time, Dan, I was sitting on a plane next to Stanley Tucci. Wow. Really?
Starting point is 00:15:47 Yeah, but that is big. Stanley Tucci? Yeah. And I said to myself before I fell asleep, I had the window, and I was like, wow, Devil Wears Prada, I gotta say something to him, but not now, because it's weird, there's a three hour flight, so I just go to sleep,
Starting point is 00:16:03 and as I'm waking up, getting off the plane, hey Tooch, love you in Devil Wears Prada, and then we move on. Oh, I love him so much. That's the way to do it, you either don't say anything, or you're just like real quick, like appreciate your work and walk away. But I've had this before where it's like
Starting point is 00:16:17 I'm sitting at like a dinner, like I'm at dinner with someone, and at the very end, they're like, hey, big fan of the show, that's almost creepier, it's like, oh, so you've been sitting here the whole time, like I'd rather you do it on the front end they're like hey big fan of the show that's almost creepier it's like you've been sitting here the whole time like i'd rather you do it on the front end if i'm being honest just like toot big fan of your work i'm gonna go go to sleep now like doing it at the end it's just uneasy the whole flight chris he's wondering is he going to continue to talk to me is he looking up my imdb right now he's sitting there at the end of the flight saying was that
Starting point is 00:16:42 guy thinking about me the entire is he thinks that you were looking At him the whole flight like oh, man. I'm saying this is Stanley Tucci I was definitely it was famous people notice when you glance at them and recognize them even if you think you didn't You've even if you think you did it slightly he knows that you knew So you're saying I should have said something early. I Well earlier not at all I thought like I could win him over as a friend So that's a different conversation the thing that I don't think you guys are allowing for and the only reason that I'm saying this is because it's
Starting point is 00:17:12 Happened to me one time that I could remember I'm in the Louvre and I'm looking at Jason Lee and I'm looking at him with the same look that he's looking at me Which is I'm like is that Jason Lee and he to be like, is that Dan Lebatard? Because some of you are actually known, there is the possibility that Billy can run into Jorge Soler and that Soler, now Soler is not a great example. Soler was not sitting there thinking, who is that? Yeah, I know, Billy gonna come say hi to me?
Starting point is 00:17:42 It's happened, it has happened to people on our show with middle relievers, with people in the bullpen who will look up in the stands and be like, I listened to your show, it has happened. And so I'm saying it can happen when you're looking at somebody not sure if they are who you think they are and they're looking at you not sure if you are who they think they are.
Starting point is 00:18:01 Do you ever have people come up to you and they ask if you're who you are and you say no? I had someone come up to me and be like, are you Lucy? And then he was like, actually, Lucy's a lot taller than you are. And I was like, yeah, I'm not her, but I do get that all the time.
Starting point is 00:18:17 And then he like kept talking to me about me and he was like, yeah, she's like several inches taller than you are. And I said, yeah, I've never met her, I don't know, and then eventually someone came up and called me Lucy, and he was like, are you serious? And I was like, oh, yeah, gotcha. That's probably a better experience. But he said nice things about me, just that I was short.
Starting point is 00:18:36 I saw Terrell Suggs at the Louvre once. I took a picture with him, and I was like, hey, all my girlfriends, this was in college, all my girlfriends were like, who is that? I was like, don't worry about it, we're taking a picture with Terrell Suggs, so we took a picture with him, and then I was like, by the way, I'm a Steelers in college all my girlfriends were like who's that? I was like don't worry about we're taking a picture with Terrell sucks So we took a picture with him and then I was like by the way, I'm a Steelers fan And he was like ah screw you
Starting point is 00:18:54 Put it on the pole please juju is the Louvre the place to go so did Jason Lee come up to you How did that story now? We just sort of stared at each other and made that of that story. No, we just sort of stared at each other and made that recognition very, very clearly. This story was different to me because I thought you said the loot and you were staring at each other in the bathroom. That felt different.
Starting point is 00:19:12 Remember when that guy at Magic City said that Woody was taking a shit in the bathroom? Well, he went and talked to him while he was doing that, which seems incredibly invasive, and that is not something I would do to anybody in the world. Although I do have a friend who was bragging one time about being, and this seemed like an awful story. It just, it felt unpleasant, all of it.
Starting point is 00:19:35 Being at a nightclub and having Jim Brown's hand come down under the partition and be like, can I have some toilet paper? There's no toilet paper over here. He knew he was sitting next to Jim Brown. Jim Brown was sitting next to him and then Jim Brown's hand comes out. That's a story right there.
Starting point is 00:19:53 That is awesome. The hand of Jim Brown. I cannot spare a square. Dan, before the show ends today, I want you to be aware of something. A fan sent us two hats, one for you and one for me, from Incarnate Ward, the school in Texas that we. I want you to be aware of something. A fan sent us two hats, one for you and one for me, from Incarnate Ward, the school in Texas
Starting point is 00:20:08 that we talked about last week that you could not pronounce the name of. And they were like, someone else, I don't know if it was the same person, but they sent me a tweet and they were like, thanks for standing up for Incarnate Ward. And I was like, I didn't say anything nice about Incarnate Ward, I simply pronounced
Starting point is 00:20:22 the name Incarnate Ward correctly. So we got hats because of that. Way to go. Okay, excellent. Thank you for the contribution. I still can't pronounce it. Incarnate ward is how I pronounce it. No, that's a wide receiver.
Starting point is 00:20:34 That's correct. That is not correct. I got it wrong. Hinds ward. There it is. Just a useless joke. Love Hinds ward. Just useless.
Starting point is 00:20:43 Just a, it's the Kornheiser humor. I'm telling you, there's an age, I think it might be 70, where all you've got in the tank on your humor is you just say another ward that is like the previous word. Cam Lard. That's correct. God. Hey, podcasters. It's Mike Ryan. And let me tell you something. The NBA's got a lot going for it right now. Bright young stars hitting the court, teams playing exciting brands of basketball, and
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Starting point is 00:23:44 We are back! Again. Waiting for this one! This is the Don LeBataar Show with the Stugats! Five, four, three, two, one. How about that? Did I do it right? Well you're supposed to say something after that.
Starting point is 00:24:08 Oh are you? Yeah after the countdown. What do I know? Chris wanted you to start the segment there. That's scary. Yeah. I don't think you want to trust me to start a segment. Well you seem like you were scared of it so.
Starting point is 00:24:18 I was. Yeah. I'm like a horse in a trailer at 85 miles an hour. I'm terrified. No they're not. I know. I'm just kidding. in a trailer at 85 miles an hour. I'm terrified. No, they're not I know I'm just kidding you were two for two, but you're into this Jake Paul Mike Tyson fight Aren't you you know I am and I'm not a big pay-per-view guy, right? But I think I might fork up some money to watch this fight. Well luckily if you have Netflix, I think you're good
Starting point is 00:24:40 Oh, am I yeah, just on Netflix. You're already paying for it. There you go. Okay, right I don't know. I have pay-per-view. What do I know? It's very confusing. I'm waiting. It is confusing. You're right. Yeah, PPV I'm the world's biggest Mike Tyson fan until the fights over then I don't really care But I'm just not a big Jake Paul fan I think this is a classic Greg Cody in his you know, 70 years old still thinking he can kick a 50 yard field goal. This is you thinking that Mike Tyson can still be the Mike Tyson of old. I think a lot of people are worried about Mike Tyson
Starting point is 00:25:14 in this fight. That if he takes a blow from Jake Paul, that this could do some serious damage to an older man. You think your dad is headed into it with the expectation that Mike Tyson is still going to be Mike Tyson? Yes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:28 I think this. I think Mike Tyson has enough in a punch where if he lands one just right, it will hurt Jake Paul. Oh, Jake Paul will be out. Yes. Yes. I'm counting on, I'm not counting on stamina. I'm not counting on him being the Mike Tyson of old
Starting point is 00:25:45 for five rounds. I'm counting on a quick finish, a quick strike, that, and I know there's a big height advantage. I imagine there's a reach advantage as well for Jake Paul. I'm curious what Tyson looks like after that first two minutes of like, he's gonna come out, he's gonna try to do his thing. Can he, does he have his wind?
Starting point is 00:26:04 But I think what your dad is saying is Tyson has to get it done inside of two minutes or he's not gonna get it done. Pretty much. What if this is just Mike Tyson and Jake Paul looking for a payday and they're gonna play patty cake and everyone's gonna be like, oh this is not a real fight. This is clearly just them and look at all the suckers watching this fight and they're just dancing around the ring
Starting point is 00:26:22 because they are friends. Like I just find, I don't know man. And as I've seen. I understand why your dad doesn't like Jake Paul. I think it's not you don't it's not that you don't like them It seems like a boxing gimmick the whole it does. Yes, it does No, I admit that and and what makes me suspicious is the idea that alright somebody's gonna win There's gonna be a rematch the other guy is gonna win and then there's gonna big be the big third fight the winner takes it. I don't think Tyson has multiple fights. No he's got two minutes in him. I don't know he looks good for his age. He's only 58 he's not that old. Right but for that to play out Tyson has to win the first one I think right. I mean okay
Starting point is 00:26:59 so I just googled what their paydays are supposed to be for this. The expected purse for Jake Paul is 40 million dollars. The expected purse for Jake Paul is $40 million, and the expected purse for Mike Tyson is $20 million. Why is that? How is that possible? Respect. I know Jake Paul is a draw, but the last few fights of his have not been that popular.
Starting point is 00:27:18 Everyone's talking about this one. Mike Tyson, to me, that should be a 50-50 split on that money. I don't know how this works, but I'm honestly wondering how you generate 60 million dollars off of this fight on Netflix Which is a subscription based thing and they're not charging for the fight So like you I don't think anyone is signing up for Netflix to watch this fight that doesn't already have it, right? How the person what is what is the gate gonna be like it just seems like I guess they're gonna sell some
Starting point is 00:27:43 Advertising in it,, but how are you generating this much money that you're guaranteeing Jake Paul $40 million for a fight? But in terms of the disparity in how much they're getting paid, and we all agree Tyson should be getting paid more, well at least the same. Let's just say that. I think more.
Starting point is 00:27:58 But is it, it's a Jake Paul production, is it not? I believe it's his company. He's got a whole production company, so that's probably why he gets more money. So he's taking the bigger, yeah. He's probably paying for everything. Right. You know what I mean? Like where Mike Tyson is just getting paid to show up.
Starting point is 00:28:12 He's getting 20 million with no expenses, you know? I would think, and this obviously, I'm probably gonna sound dumb for saying this, but like I would think Jake Paul is probably bringing more eyes to this fight than Mike Tyson. So I would agree with you, Billy, but for people like me and Greg Cody, we don't want to believe that. No, I know that.
Starting point is 00:28:29 We probably know it, but we don't want to believe it. By the way, I would also say that Mike Tyson is bringing more eyes to a Jake Paul fight than a Jake Paul fight against someone else would also, if that makes sense. I agree on both concepts. I think, okay, let me rephrase this. I think if Jake Paul was having a fight and Mike Tyson was having a fight, Jake Paul would out draw a Mike Tyson fight at this point in time.
Starting point is 00:28:50 But I feel like Mike Tyson going to a Jake Paul fight would out draw any other Jake Paul fight that he could possibly have. So the two of them together is a perfect match. Where does Jake Paul go from here? I mean, he should take a fall, honestly. I know people are saying that Mike Tyson will take a fall. If Jake loses and they make this like and it's like competitive enough that they make this trilogy. Oh man, wouldn't that be great? I'm reading that Jake Paul has predicted that this will get 25 million viewers, which
Starting point is 00:29:18 would be by far the most watched boxing match of all time. But to Billy's point, it's not pay-per-view. Netflix is already something you're paying for. Yeah. Which is why it probably most watched boxing match of all time. But to Billy's point, it's not pay per view. Netflix is already something you're paying for. Which is why he's predicting so many viewers because so many people already have Netflix. Right. By the way, like ESPN Plus does it with UFC, right? Where like, you're just like, oh, it's like they,
Starting point is 00:29:37 you know, have their deal with ESPN Plus and you have to pay for ESPN Plus, but then you have to pay for the UFC fight on top of the ESPN Plus. That's not how this is working with this fight, my understanding you just if you have Netflix you can watch it You turn on Netflix the fight is there Yeah, no one's so I understand what you're saying Chris in terms of telling us the audience of what Jake Paul expects But no one's paying for because they're already getting it. You just turn on your Netflix. It's there
Starting point is 00:30:00 They don't tell you numbers ever like they like with the Brady roast They don't tell you numbers, but they say hey, this was the most watched thing ever You know, they're gonna do this with this now they think't tell you numbers ever, like with the Brady roast. They don't tell you numbers, but they say, hey, this was the most watched thing ever. You know they're gonna do this with this box. No, they give you numbers, but they give you like 75 billion streamed minutes. And it's like, hold on a second. Divided by how many? Well, that was like six hours long,
Starting point is 00:30:16 six hours times 60, what is that? Like 3,600 minutes, something like that. Like that's how we get to a billion real quick, right? That Tom Brady roast, way too long. Can we agree on that? Way too long. Way, way too long. Like you're starting to understand why I guess
Starting point is 00:30:30 the Comedy Central ones were done days before and then edited down to an hour because man, three and a half hours or whatever that Brady roast was, was never, I sat down three different times to try to finish it, I never finished it. And Andrew Schultz who went like last, he was funny, but I feel like people were just tired at that point. Like I feel like his set would have gotten more laughs
Starting point is 00:30:50 if it was like an hour two, but it was like one of the last ones where people were just like, I'm done. He got a bad draw. Yeah. And I get it, they were probably going with him as like one of the closers, but it's just, it was too long. You wanna go like third.
Starting point is 00:31:01 Same thing with like this fight, like where there's an undercard. Where do you wanna fight on this card? They can't have too many fights because here's the thing about this, right? Is that at the end of the day, it's still boxing, right? So if you don't care about boxing, but you like the spectacle,
Starting point is 00:31:17 are you gonna sit through two hours of boxing matches that you don't care about to get to this fight at the end? Oh, I'm not watching an undercard. I mean, I just wanna see Tyson for two minutes. That's it. That's me too. I think there's an interesting dynamic to this fight though because for a lot of his career Mike Tyson sort of played the villain.
Starting point is 00:31:36 He was the guy that a lot of fans were rooting against. I think it's the opposite now. And largely because of the age difference, I think 80% of America is rooting for Tyson to win, whether or not they have a bet on the fight. I agree. I mean, I think most people. No, but I think we're making a mistake with just how popular Jay Paul has become
Starting point is 00:31:57 with younger people. No, yeah. Yeah, but I just feel like even some of those younger people, like maybe I'm wrong. Maybe I'm just doing my age, but he's very punchable. No. But he's very punchable. No, but he is very punchable. My daughter wants to watch the fight.
Starting point is 00:32:09 She has no idea who Mike Tyson is. Wow. She's watching for Jake Paul. That's impossible. She has, Billy. She's never seen the Hangover? She's for sure knows Mike Tyson through pop culture. Maybe not as like a fighter.
Starting point is 00:32:20 I asked her, do you know who Mike Tyson is? She said, no, I have no idea. Now maybe that would jog, so I have no idea, but she's watching it for Jay Paul. That's all I'm saying. Me and Greg as older people are probably not giving Jay Paul enough credit and thinking Tyson is the draw here. Tyson is the draw for us, not for everyone else. I don't think that's a good point the idea that your grown daughter would never have heard of Mike Tyson is surprising But I guess it shouldn't shock me. He is 58 right at what age are you grown? I mean, I think when you're away 20. Yeah, you're growing. Yeah, she's grown and she's always your little girl. Yeah always
Starting point is 00:33:00 Both of them Emma and Rachel. What's the most wrong you've ever them. the tight ends coach. he was the interim coach in 2015. But when the Lions made him their head coach, I laughed at the Lions. I'm like, there's no way that meathead is going to be able to galvanize a team and lead that team into the playoffs and take an organization like the Lions, who I would say over the last 40 years, much like the Jets, have been the worst organization, not just in the NFL, anywhere in sports. That's how bad the Lions were before Dan Campbell took over. And I said, Dan Campbell is not going to fix this mess. Dan Campbell has fixed this mess. So much so, I wish he was my head coach. I do. So I was, Dan Campbell, I apologize. I was wrong about you. You're not a bad head coach. You're not a good head
Starting point is 00:34:12 coach. You're a great head coach. The Dolphins have had some funny coaches in that, like, you remember Tony Spirano, and it wasn't even something that he did here, but Tony Spirano did one of the funniest things that I remember a coach doing so he became he went to Oakland after he was here Maybe a stopper too later And he took over as the interim head coach of the Raiders when they fired someone and he decided to kind of set the tone After he took over to bury a football. Yeah That's coaching very Dan Campbell move on it really is really is. They had both of them in this building. I don't know why we couldn't have had these moments here.
Starting point is 00:34:49 Yeah, well, I remember Dave wants that when he was here. Ah, the lobster trap. The lobster trap. The week of a trap game, there would be all these New England lobster traps all over the locker room. It was like, really? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:03 Grown ass men playing or like getting inspired by a locker room? A big part of coaching is props, I think. I think a big part of coaching is props. I agree with you, but I also think it's that guy played the game. And like, I don't know what I was doing with Dan Campbell when the Lions decided to make him the head coach.
Starting point is 00:35:21 He just, he's unlike physically, he is unlike any coach we've ever he's unlike physically. He is unlike any coach we've ever seen in the NFL, but he does a great job of making those players feel like he's in the game with those players. I was telling you off air and I mean this entirely. He looks like a guy you could put him in a uniform put him in the game for a couple of series at Linebacker. Get your sack.
Starting point is 00:35:48 And he wouldn't embarrass you. He would look like a player out there. I don't know how old he is. He's probably in his mid 40s. 48. Yeah. He looks like, speaking of Mike Tyson, he looks like for a short period,
Starting point is 00:35:59 he could still fake being a player. Let's relive Dan Campbell's introductory press conference. This team's gonna be built on, we're gonna kick you in the teeth, all right? And when you punch us back, we're gonna smile at you. And when you knock us down, we're gonna get up. And on the way up, we're gonna bite a kneecap off, all right? And we're gonna stand up, and then it's gonna take
Starting point is 00:36:17 two more shots to knock us down, all right? And on the way up, we're gonna take your other kneecap, and we're gonna get up, and then it's gonna take three shots to get us down. And when we do, we're going to take your other kneecap and we're going to get up and then it's going to take three shots to get us down. And when we do, we're going to take another honk out of you before before long. Where are they going to be the last one standing? All right. That's going to be the mentality. All right. And we're going to learn that any loss that we take, we're going to make sure we feel the full pain of it and not go numb to it.
Starting point is 00:36:40 Thank you for playing that because it was after that where I thought there's no way this guy is gonna have any sort of success And the neat the bite you in the kneecap thing. Yes that comes back to haunt you if you prove not to be a good coach It's like yeah, how's that biting the kneecap of the opponent working? Yeah, you know when you're three and seven Yep, but now he looks like a genius. He does I mean in macho man, you know macho coach Can I tell you something? I was really happy for him when they came back and they beat the Texans this week, and this is why. And I felt like I saw an evolution of Dan Campbell in that they came back and their last two drives
Starting point is 00:37:16 ended with field goals. And I was like, wow, and he looked happy. He's learning. Look, we kicked these field goals, we ended up winning this game. The whole story was about Jake Bates, the ol' bricklayer that now is a kicker in the NFL. But I saw Dan Kam and I'm like, you know what?
Starting point is 00:37:32 I feel really good for this guy. Like, all the criticism that he would go for being too aggressive, whatever, he settled for two field goals, ends up having a giant comeback win because it was looking early on like the Texans were gonna blow them out and somewhat expose them, but no,
Starting point is 00:37:46 they came right back at it, did the regular football thing, kicked some field goals, took the points, you escaped with a win, eight and one. He's so right, Billy, I was thinking that Campbell was just gonna be like, no, we're scoring. On this final drive, he played the clock, he just took the field goal, I thought he would be like, no, no, we don't do that around here,
Starting point is 00:38:02 we try to score touchdowns. Wrong coach, that's Nick Sirianni. The bricklayer, the bricklayer also two really close kicks to missing. Great story. Almost horrible. Season's greetings podcast audience. It's Mike Ryan. And now is that time of year where you start hosting your family gatherings, be it Thanksgiving, be it the upcoming holiday season, you're going to have some folks in town, you're gonna be doing some entertaining.
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