The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 2: Talkin' AND Talkin'

Episode Date: June 24, 2025

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someone from 1919. Billy, would you agree with this, that it's, I'm looking at prohibition more than Great Depression. I feel like he should be shoeless, he would normally be shoeless, he's not shoeless only because he has talons for feet. They're disgusting, they are the feet of Nosferatu. Yes, see shoeless Joe was eligible also,

like that was kind of one of the, it flew under the radar when Pete Rose was made eligible. Shoeless Joe can get back in now too. And I guess the, I guess the ruling is a lifetime ban ends when your life ends. And now all dead people that committed malfeasances can be eligible. Put it on the poll.

Does a lifetime ban end when your life does? I feel like that's a, I feel like that you've, you've stumbled upon something there. I had never considered it, honestly. I saw the phrasing, I feel like that's a, I feel like that you've stumbled upon something there. I had never considered it, honestly. I saw the phrasing and I was like, I'm Pete Brody. I mean, it's gonna still go like a great idea. As soon as you die, sure. Never mind about our moralities.

We'll clean you right up. Yeah, we're gonna be mates. I guess punishment's served now. I mean, you can't get any joy from this. You're dead and your spirit is banned. if you think that your family would get a lot of joy From seeing you go to the Hall of Fame and they're getting up there in age. Why are you talking parents? Well, cuz I'm asking a kind of dark question

Like you just sort of a board or something. Let's Spend a dive early I was struggling to follow what you were doing. I'm kind of happy everyone just started It's what it sounded like to me pretty amazing I know all right Enjoy the rest of the show I feel bad I'm sorry This feels like Never seen that before where some dude is talking doing writing and everyone else just like moves on with their lives We miss it like should he try it again honestly, I don't remember what he said it was so boring legitimately thought he was whispering in just my ear and I

But then he just kept talking why am I so I thought and I was confused by my own show He's talking like is he talking to just me? Why is he talking that way but then what swept over me and and Greg forgive me because you and Stu got because you and Stugatz wanted the blessed relief of David Sampson because of something that had happened in here right before David Sampson, which was, and I'm now airing private grievances, but Stugatz, I'm only doing this in the context of what just happened, okay?

Which is all of us are staring at Jeremy, wondering what the hell he's doing with the show, and he's just happily with the steering wheel, and we don't know why he's talking that way. I'll just slow it down a little. And whisper to you and confuse the host, who's not sure whether you're just giving him gentle guidance or speaking on air to others.

Yeah, it sounded like an ad read for a sleep inducing medication. I was gonna ask if people would kill themselves to get their family some joy of them getting into the Hall of Fame. So I was trying not to say it's so brash. That's the energy we're looking for. But do you think some people would kill themselves to give their family some joy? Like chalk nails a board or something. So are you asking if Pete Rose would have killed himself if it meant getting into the Hall of Fame sooner?

That's exactly what I'm asking. That's where you were headed? Yes! Let's get there. But you didn't let me get there! Let's just get there. That's exactly what I'm asking. That's where you were headed? Yes! Let's get there. But you didn't let me get there! Let's just get there. The would you attend their funeral show.

It was like oh, two more bits. Geez. Why'd you take it there? You shouldn't have said that. My gosh. This is a morning show on the DraftKings network, friend. Before David Sampson came on, Greg Cody said that he had Pat Riley opinions

that he wanted to give. He also said this on air, and he wasn't given the room to give them. Right, yeah. Well, there's a lot of voices in here. You know, that's no one's fault but yours, Dan. I mean, you're the one who has a lot of people in here talking, and it's very tough sometimes

to get a word in. But especially on the Heat. Well, you asked him a direct question, and someone else answered it. That's very tough uh... sometimes uh... to get a word in but especially on the heat well you asked him a direct question and someone else answered it that's where you got upset i mean yeah there is a happens a lot there's a back-flash against the heat because of the way this show talks about that's right jeremy out alright he's been bullied alright here's uh... the wheel is very busy today and i want to see i'm gonna need your help with the eyesight on uh... on seeing this because these are the things on the wheel is very busy today and I want to see, I'm gonna need your help with the eyesight on seeing this because these are the things on the wheel, are you ready?

The resignation of the mustachioed strength wonder for the University of Miami football team, Aaron Feld. The greatest mustache in all of college football, he has resigned from the University of Miami. Scandalous. Will Smith's music is on the wheel. The rock going for an Oscar is on the wheel. A Father's Day fit for a king is on the wheel.

Side view mirrors is on the wheel. The Panthers partying crazy throughout South Florida is on the wheel. Pablo's story is being sent by his publicists on the secret arbitration ruling of the NFL Players Association. The UCF Knights new football uniforms is also on the wheel.

That'd be terrible if it came up. Championship buses are on the wheel. And the Boost Mobile. The Boost Mobile. Boldest Take. Boldest Take hotline is on the wheel Let's spin the wheel and see where it lands here. That's a lot And also Oh Portland's top five defense since the all-star break and my greatest professional regret from yesterday way to suck

I were to land. Can you see where it landed Greg? Unfortunately, it's the central uniforms Essentially, it's the central uniforms. Well said. UCF. UCF. Sorry, you're gonna have to send this one out. Let's spin that again. Central uniforms. Let's read that again. It's essentially a spin again.

Greg Leaves, I gave you 11 options. But it's not damaged what the wheel said. I can't know what the wheel said. The wheel says what the wheel said, Dan. It's the wheel's law. Didn't even say it out. In the wheels. The central...

The central... It was clearly not on the wheel. It was hard to see. Get out of here. The wheel said it. The glasses are fogged up. Yeah. This is ridiculous. In the wheels It's clearly not on the wheel is hard to see get out of here Fogged up yeah major penalty five minutes rooming comedy

You can tell you all about it Rather if it was Pete Rose, would you rather sit with Jeremy to get into the Hall of Fame or kill yourself? Was that whole thing just Jeremy saying? Do we have to put a warning on this episode? That's gonna take a while for me to get over. It was weird. Listen, but I can say it now that Cody and Jeremy are both gone. Okay, this was Cody's complaint in the privacy

of that first hour heat second. You think they can all hear us? Oh boy. I'm aware, Chris. You know what? Get out of here. Yeah, send them away. Major penalty, five minutes, swimming comedy. Kevin Stemmle's out here. Be careful, Dan.

Why be careful? I care about you. Alright, well you helped me walk here. You were here, and both Greg and David were grateful, I'm sorry, Greg and Stugatz were grateful that David Sampson appeared because they were afraid that I was going to reveal what Stugatz and Cody were saying.

And it is something that they were saying that i'm sure the audience has said about any number of of us including me most of all right i mean you put me in a spot here uh... listen it was really directed you don't want to do it i don't want to do it i prefer not to do it but i'll do it because i know you need it like and that's what i'm supposed to do. During Heat Talk, Greg Cody was trying to talk, he couldn't talk and didn't like that

he couldn't talk. Well, he didn't like that you asked him a direct question, a respected columnist in Miami, who has opinions about the Heat, wanted to talk about the Heat, and when you asked him that direct question, Mike answered it. He said, it's hard to get in here and what he said after that was because Mike's talking and then Jeremy is talking and talking and he hit him with a talking and talking. Just Jeremy not you Mike. Mike was talking right and Jeremy was talking and talking and I'm somebody who talks and talks and talks

so I'm no one to make fun of not allowing other people in. But there's Greg Cody, old timey baseball player being soothed by his son, his loving son, because he's been treated like a senile old man by White Hat during the playoffs when he's the only one who got anything right. He dresses up like a clown for us, even though he's much smarter on Kornheiser's show

and we disgrace his reputation and his legacy by turning him into a professional clown who can't get his shots off during the show because the producers are full of themselves. There I said it. It's been said. Yep, and said. Where is Jeremy?

He's supposed to be in the penalty box. I feel like we bullied him, and I don't feel like what we just did to Jeremy is right. I think that that felt unfair. Jeremy hasn't had a lot. That question was unfair. But I don't understand why he was talking to me in a way that totally disoriented me.

I spent 10 full seconds wondering if he was talking to just me. And then I heard no one else talking. Cause I thought he was just in my ear because of the way he was talking. When you're talking suicide though,'s that's kind of the way that's how to do it you didn't have to bring up suicide none of it is necessary none of it was necessary we were having plenty of fun around is a

lifetime band something that ends as soon as your lifetime does because it's a great question that I don't feel like any of us had really considered until Pete Rose died and then we're like wait they're just gonna let him in? Well, his life is over. I don't think, had any of us considered it before then in any real terms? Like Pete Rose himself said he didn't wanna go in after his death, and all of us were like, what's the point of putting him in after his death?

But none of us had considered the length of a lifetime band just ending the moment his life did. Right. Greg, so you feel like Pat Riley still has it, but he just decided to pass on Kevin Durant for whatever reason, because that's not a guy that's gonna win this team an NBA championship. I'll take this one.

I think Pat Riley's overthinking this, flatly. And I think he's paying for this. I guess what you guys are doing. Is that what we're doing? Okay. All right. All right. I get it. Don't worry about it. Spin the wheel again. I guess what you guys are doing. Is that what we're doing? Okay. All right.

I get it. Don't worry about it. Spin the wheel again. I didn't see it correctly that time. I don't know. You don't want me to read the answer, then don't ask me. What does it say up there? What does it say?

UCF uniforms again. I can't help that that happens with wheels sometimes. Right. It comes up the same. It lands on the same thing, right? All the time. I can't help that that happens with wheels sometimes. It comes up the same thing. It's the wheel. It's the perfect spin. Your lucky day. Now I'm curious, what do the damn uniforms do? The drop shadow accents are incredible. They bring it every time. They're the same. No, no, no no no the drop shadows totally different You're gonna have to leave the room again. Oh, they're very sharp Okay, here we go It's morning That was a good one. He was gonna walk out and tie. I like that. With his headsets on. Pull the whole table. Just leave.

He doesn't know how to open the door. Listen, let me explain to you what we did to him. And Stu got after a lifetime doing this show with him and feels like, knows what happened here. He wanted to talk in the first hour. He dressed up in the old time uniform. We pubbed his podcast. He checked out right after that. Checked out for the day. You guys didn't let him talk? He's not, he's done playing, he's taking his ball

and going home. He wore our happy uniform, he wore the costume for us, he got his glory in the first hour but didn't get his shots off and now he's pissed. And he blames you, a lifetime of rascals, these children who don't respect him for not giving him the room to talk, and he doesn't think. There's another thing here. I think he blamed you. I wasn't the one who kept him from talking

in the first hour. I kept throwing it to him, and then it would get taken, and then Jeremy wanted his heat opinions heard. But to be fair, Jeremy's heat opinions are informed by being around the team. But yeah. It'd take forever to say though. See, that's the thing. Yeah. being around the team. But yeah. It takes forever to say though. See, that's the thing.

Yeah. I wonder how much it is. I'm trying to be. Team issued statements. Well thought out. Yeah. So I'm putting space in between my sentences. The informed opinion is overrated.

I like the uninformed opinion. Yeah. I do. That's where you get the truth from is the uninformed. God bless football and stupality. Uninformed. They're taking a lane no one else is taking in this regard. Stugatsa's banking many riches on the idea

that this is a lane no one else is occupying. God bless football has some education in it, but the good stuff is the lack of education. The General's stumbling around with the Gronkowskis and Joba Chamberlain. Joba. Well he's been, yeah, he kinda got tired of us not paying him, so he disappeared.

He's appearing somewhere else. Wait a minute, what happened? He created a media career from you guys? You guys built the coaching tree of God Bless Football, got Joba Chamberlain a job somewhere else? Well no, I mean, he's like a king in Nebraska. He lives in Nebraska, that's where he went to school and he's doing some podcasts there.

He's doing his thing. Doing some stuff with baseball. Check in with him every once in a while. I'm sorry, I thought he was still with you guys. His dad passed away recently, thoughts and prayers to his friends. The sore subject. How many Gronkowskis are there on God Bless Football?

It's usually a different one every season. Yeah, because. It was Chris the first season, Gordy the last couple of seasons. Yeah, they learn that they don't really wanna deal with us, so then we just keep moving down the chain of the Gronks. Hopefully we'll get to Rob. Well, I would say probably less likely.

Greg Cody, I wanna get your thoughts here on his podcast, very popular podcast. Zach Lowe says the Heat had a look in the mirror moment by not going all in on KD, quote, you know Pat Riley wants to go for it and you know Heat could have beat Houston's offer. Yeah, Hero, Durant, Bam, and some backup starter guys is not gonna be good enough.

Well, they- I'll take this one. Uh, if, if Pat Riley's aim is to keep doing what he's been doing over the last few seasons, which is be frustrated that they're not good enough and think that the development of these players just isn't up to snuff. Then he's doing himself and it's like, I see a great disservice. I mean, why, the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again,

expecting different results. Cody, you're laughing, but Stugance just whispered in my ear, much like Jeremy did earlier, except it wasn't in my ear. And he said, uh, Greg was again, not ready for your question in any way and was not listening. That's what happened the first time Greg. It happens a lot. We have to spring into action. You should be thanking Mike for interrupting. And by the way, you're no Ryan Seacrest, pal. Whoa, thank you for that. Ryan Seacrest. What's that got to do with anything? Right. Ryan Seacrest. You're tired of to do with anything? Ryan Seacrest.

You're tired of that guy anyway, right? Yes. Overrated. Yeah, right, like overrated. He's just petering out. Your father is petering out at the end of work day, at the end of many hockey months. Did you see, he just went to his signature line board,

McDavid, overrated. He just burped it out. Well Stu got sent overrated. He was feeding me the line. Well Stu got said overrated he was feeding me the line. Well I mean Seacrest is. Spin the wheel again please, spin the wheel again please. Aaron Feld the strength coach, Will Smith music, Portland top five defense since the All-Star game, the Rock winning an Oscar, trying to, Father's Day for a King, Panthers Championship celebration, championship buses, Pablo's story, or Boost Mobile?

Father's Day for a king. Wow. Really? Wow. Yeah. Huh. Does that fit your preference? It's what it landed on.

I mean. I know, but it landed on UFC football the last two times they sent me out of here. UFC football. No, he's right. It wasn't. You see that? What did I say?

Did you FC? No, I didn't say it, yeah. It was last hour. I'm jumbling the letters. What can I tell you? It happens. Yeah, thank you. Mm-hmm.

Regular. But the perfect Father's Day gift, I mean, what does that mean? Not the first, it's not the first. No, I had a- Father's Day for the Higgins. Hey, hey, we all know what that is. I know that you and Chris have gone back and forth on whose Father's Day is it.

And that's actually been a controversy in my household too. My dad has to come to grips with the fact that Father's Day used to be your day, not your day anymore. It's my day. We'll circle back to you. He's had a very difficult time for that. And I realized what I want on Father's Day is peace and quiet. I know it's becoming cliche but I physically kick my family out of my house and I spend

the day all to myself, 20 milligrams on left turns basically the entire day. In fact, one time I was inside the house and I walked outside to pee and I've shorted myself. I did that twice. I liked how it felt because it was my day. I'm king. Love a backyard pee. Now, one of the, yeah, I did that. I was in the house. You're not really a homeowner until you pee

in your backyard. Front yard pee will be in trouble. I was inspecting the backyard the first time. Front yard pee will get you in trouble. It will, yeah. Secure in the perimeter. Arrested, possibly, I mean. See what this is like.

It's my day, let's see what this is like. Peed outside. Nice. Later on in the day, after a full bottle of wine, decided to do it again, you know. See what this is like. It's my day. Let's see what this is like. Peed outside. Nice. Later on in the day, after a full bottle of wine, decided to do it again, liked it. Excellent. So it was a day of excess, and as part of the 20 milligrams and left turns experiences,

you know, I kind of gorge on food. That's my treat yourself day. My night ended with me not feeling my best, just tired, but I was so full. I had never been this full in my life. And I got up from the couch to say good night, I'm going to bed. I coughed and out came like a quarter of the Peruvian

that I ate. Just, I coughed and it wasn't because I was high or drunk or anything like that, even though I admitted to those things, I was fine. It was because I gorged myself on Peruvian food. Yeah, you were disgusting. And I coughed things. I was fine, it was because I gorged myself on Peruvian food. Yeah, you were disgusting. And I coughed, and I was totally fine, but out from my mouth came a whole bunch of aji amarillo.

And no, just like on the front of my shirt, I'm like, that's gonna be a wrap for me, I'm going to bed. Best Father's Day I've ever had. Nice. Father's Day for Kim, put it on the poll, please. Are you a real homeowner if you haven't peed in your backyard? And also it on the poll please, are you a real home owner if you haven't peed in your backyard and also put on the poll, will the front yard pee get you in trouble?

When did that happen by the way? We used to be a proper country where you can just pee in the front yard and no one would care, that was like a sign of, you know, success. You just pee in your front yard. It's like marking your territory like a dog. Yeah, neighbors would go by, hey Bill, how's it going? You wave at them as they go, you're peeing, Bill pees down the street.

Exactly right. Now all of a sudden. Yeah, suddenly you can't do it. Yeah, you're too close to a school, you have to introduce yourself to all your neighbors. Ridiculous. I feel like Frank Tories, though, was peeing his front yard. Did Frank? I know, God rest his soul. I'm not gonna have a sports jump like that. Oh, Frank left? He He was a drummer he taught me how to drum Yeah, he did it apparently has never been broadly legal that can't be you shouldn't be peeing in your front yard It's your yard. Yeah, you shouldn't be peeing there at school on the sidewalk Why can my neighbor's dog pee in my front yard? But I can't pee in my front yard when I pay for that yard came expressly legal in New York City in the 1970s

And they started really enforcing this in the 1990s, and it was banned in LA in the 1990s as well. What if my back is to the street though? That's a good question. That's fair. There wasn't a single moment in this country though where peeing in your front yard ever became illegal, to answer your question.

No, it must be illegal, it can't be legal. You can't pee in your front yard, I think that's illegal. I have a wall up though. No, the problem is illegal. It can't be legal. You can't pee in your front yard. I think that's illegal You can't have a wall up though. No the problem is being visible to the public you can't be in your front You can't but your backyard Feels less than decent feels like you're trying to be decent if you have a chain-link fence kind of well Greg Cody has a substantive backyard Greg Cody has shoes buried in that backyard, shoes that he wore for 20 years, and a couple of cats. But wait a minute, if I'm inside my home in the bathroom

and I'm peeing with the window open, and you could see completely in, you could still see it, that's fine? You're open for business. They're the creepy ones we're looking at. Yeah, they should be arrested. Invasion of privacy. Huh. Looking for a new way to get in on the action?

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It's all about me. Stugats. Whee! This is the Don Lebatard Show with the Stugats. What if I'm peeing in my backyard and a drone is flying overhead and I wave at it? You're good. I'm with you. Drones? What are you waving with?

Ruined skinny dipping. My other hand. Sometimes I pee hands free. Don't you? Really? In your yard or the bathroom? Both. That's an outdoor activity.

Or in the shower. Not in the bathroom. I'm a veteran peer. Not in the bathroom. Spin the wheel veteran peer. Not in the bathroom. Oh yeah. Spin the wheel again please. You have to have no control. Go ahead and spin the wheel again.

Quick, real quick, have you and Chris come to a solution to your father's day conundrum? I still think it's still mine, but you know. In my family, father's day is for my wife. Yeah, I feel that way too. You just figured it out, huh? She just kind of sets the plans and we all do that Oh, I'm going to four different houses today fun Put it on the poll at Levitard show in your family is Father's Day for your wife

What did it land on there Cody? What did it land on? Oh? The the guy from UM with a weird mustache Why did he disappear all of a sudden? Okay let's look at the strength coach for the University of Miami. He looks unlike any other strength coach that any of us have ever seen. The mustache is glorious, the hair is glorious, the biceps are glorious. He is no longer the strength coach at the University of Miami. Mike, as a booster, journalist, and someone who owns a company that traffics in University

of Miami football information, can you give us any information as to why this resplendent, luscious human being is no longer on campus? He put out a statement on his social media channel saying that it was time for a change and that he wanted to be with his family more. He cited his family multiple times in that and it got a lot of attention because Ehrenfeld is probably the most publicly recognizable strength and conditioning coach in the nation, but it's already been replaced and I don't think he's landed anywhere just yet.

It seems like he's taken some time off. The Cody's are famously bad at hygiene. You do not touch yourself or hold yourself while peeing because you don't want to wash your hands, right? Oh no, no. Just mostly just for the ritual of it, you know, the challenge. Flaunt the skill.

Yeah, you want to. The challenge? Yeah, target practice. The challenge of being accurate without the manipulation of. Okay, I wish you could gamify going to the restroom. You know what I mean? You know what, I want to do guys, business idea here, Jeremy voice,

what if we found a way to get like a thing that you put on the toilet? You know they have like the light like that. I don't know. It's kind of does whatever you want Who's the Connor McDavid of peeing? Hmm wait is everybody's does it does it go straight or you a little bit like? We bully him into being outside He's sitting next to Greg Cody's giant treasure chest of bacon over there. He said, I have an idea for a song. That's where he went. That's why I'm saying it's an outside thing, Mike.

Like you have to aim in your toilet, right? You have to count for the wind sometimes. Cody, what is that treasure chest of bacon? I've never seen bacon in a contraption that large. Is that an igloo of bacon? What is that? On an upcoming episode of the Greg Cody Show podcast, we have on the Bacon King, and the Bacon King wanted to send me some of his bacon preparatory.

Are you talking about Uncle Dick? Well, Uncle Dick will be in on that as well because he's the Bacon Prince. But this is the Bacon King, not inside that container. Can you show it to us? Can you go out open it can we do some uh... journalism and open find out just how much bacon you got promote the greg cody show with greg cody i have a podcast yeah i mean i have not personally opened it yet i don't know what's in there where is it the greg cody show featuring greg cody with yeah greg cody show with greg cody

uh... chris is going out there and uh... and gotten uh... this uh... so you're getting a ton of free bacon. How much weight is this? How much, I would assume, I have only seen you and Stugatz here wander around eating bacon with no plate, no utensils. You just wander around eating bacon with your hands. I caught Zaslow doing it the other day.

Yeah, I was proud of him. No napkin, Zaslow also did no napkin? No napkin, yeah. Just a piece of bacon, wrapped with your hands. That's how you eat bacon. Yes. How much bacon is there here, Chris?

Do you have any idea? We're about to, okay, we're about to do this live. I mean, the thing must weigh, what does that weigh, Christopher? 40 pounds? It's a very large igloo. What an exciting day, though, for Greg Cody. He's bringing home the bacon.

Yes, literally. Well said. So you're going to put it in your car. You don't know how much this is. You don't know who to thank. You don't know how to open it. You're just going to open it noisily. I need a knife.

OK, great. So we will get this done at some point in the interim. Keep the knife away from Pete Rose. Billy, unfortunately, we're going to need you here real quick in order to spin the wheel while Chris is in here if you don't mind I'm seeing it. No, but we need the sound Doesn't really work if you're far away and just making a sound that's not yeah Greg keep your eye on the wheel, okay?

Yes, please because again Greg my greatest professional regret is up there Will Smith's music is up there Portland having a top five defense since the all-Star break and now trading for Drew Holiday is up there. The Rocks movie credentials, the Panthers going crazy, championship buses, and Pablo's story in Boost Mobile. And side view mirrors. Oh, thank you. Yes, I hadn't seen that.

I wrote it down there. That's not helpful, Billy. I don't want you in that seat anymore. Applewood smoked bacon. Wow, that is a ton of bacon wow that is an amazing Bacon holy shit. Yes, you're you're not gonna be able to that's a lifetime supply of bacon that would last Pete Rose's entire life That's not that amount of bacon. It would last me the rest of the day Wait a minute. That is a ton of bacon Damn, right. You're not gonna be able to eat all of that.

Sure I will. You will not eat all of that. Oh my God. How long? That will take you a year to eat. No. Don't test him. You haven't seen the Cody's.

Uncle Dick and Greg Cody could probably eat that in a week. Yeah. Guys. For the slides right around the quarter too. This is like 30 pounds. Yeah, but you it's hard. This is right. I know it's shrink. It's right here This right here What you get it dick joke not uncle dad uncle dick Put that back so it doesn't dry out he's's working out right now, that's what he's doing.

I know! Bacon lifting. Get my exercise in. That was such a loud thump. Throwing that bacon down. It doesn't respect the bacon. I'm uncomfortable. I put it on the poll at LeBataille's show.

Are you uncomfortable when the 70 year old makes the that's what she said joke so awkward The Rock is now going for an oscar stugats with an a 24 film I don't know if you've been following what a 24 is doing but they are changing the entire industry of movies because they make movies for About eight million dollars a pop on average they've made 150 of them about not very many and they make good things everyone knows it the rock wants a reinvention in his 50s wants a reinvention where people respect him as an actor and the way to do that is to pair with a

24 the studio that makes the best things again. It's not just this is an interesting and novel concept and learning a little bit, very little bit about the movie industry recently. It gets sort of convoluted and polluted with middle managers and production people and an assortment of other things. And then the next thing you know, the director's not in charge anymore. The thing that A24 does is at a minimal cost, they say, director, go. Go do, make what you want to make and we will not get in the way by having to prove that we are important people executives and A24 has had creative success because they're giving creative freedom to people who crave it and want it and they've got an efficient model that again eight million dollars on average for a movie is

very little money in order to get a movie made. Well, have you read the early reviews for The Smashing Machine? Mr. Gutz, you may know from your time at the Mosvettal flight in Madison Square Garden where you were pictured with The Rock, you were beside him on the stage. The Rock announced to that crowd back then, which seems like a long time ago, that he was making this film, The Smashing Machine, based on a great documentary that was made in the early 2000s. A24 does empower directors. The Safdie brothers were a great directing duo.

They split up. Benny Safdie is directing this film. And what Dan highlighted has usually worked out for A24. However, it seems as though from the early reviews, and granted still a small sample, is that Benny Safdie decided to make a mockery of biopics with this film. And apparently the only person playing it straight the entire time is The Rock, and people are really confused by the film, especially with the leading man playing it so straight so very

clearly going for an Oscar. In fact if you see the early lines he's like plus 800 to win the Oscar which is pretty good odds he's like third favorite right now and I don't know if you've seen the other roles that he started stacking up but he's working with Scorsese. Usually when someone, studios see the dailies and they know that someone has a really good performance, they start agreeing to these movies. It's how Matthew McConaughey, hey, True Detective's awesome, Dallas Buyers Club's happened, and then all of a sudden he's got Interstellar and he's working with all these great directors. But this is going to really test audiences because people who have a palette for A24 and a lot

of weird things were totally knocked on their ass by this film not knowing what the hell it was. To God I will tell you and you've heard me marvel before at the reinventions of people like Madonna late in life are able to do things over decades where you keep growing into a different thing that doesn't atrophy. The Rock as an entertainment conqueror has had one of the most amazing careers you can ever find from somebody who isn't a traditional actor and was like a Canadian football league player with no money who had wrestling chops and charisma and parlayed it into now in his 50s, wants to creatively be something bigger than the big dumb movies that he's been.

It's hard to reinvent yourself in your 50s. I've seen here Steve Martin and Martin Short are keeping their careers alive late, but The Rock isn't. But they're playing to their strengths, is what they're doing. His strength is movies like Skyscraper and Rampage, you know? Jump out of a building that's on fire with one leg.

Has that not run its course? Not just for him. No, no, it never runs its course. For us. Not just for him, for us. I thought that the decay of movies in recent years has been about just make a bunch of Marvel movies and also The Rock and Kevin Hart will be in everything and it'll run its course. And it's run its course and now The Rock is seeking some sort of reinvention here with

something that's totally different and is him wanting to be taken seriously as an actor. Right, so it's run its course for him. The early reviews though made me feel bad for him because if Benny Safdie decided to have a take on the entire genre and kind of poke fun at it in his own way, I felt really bad for The Rock who has worked very hard to try to get this film made. When he spoke to us at Madison Square Garden,

he said that he's been trying to get this movie made for the better part of 20 years, and that was six years ago. So to finally get to that point, and to have A24 and a great cast around you, and to kind of be the made the butt of a joke that is nuanced and layered, hopefully this is just early reviews

and editing softens it a little bit, because by all accounts, there's a really good performance in there. But it's supposed to run dark and it's supposed to be a mental health challenge, is it not? The main takeaway that a lot of the critics had was they were utterly confused by what Benny Safdie was trying to do. Some of them were following and maybe they missed the point, but they're like is this just Benny Safdie taking a crap on biopics as a whole, trying to follow a formula

while The Rock is pouring his heart into this performance? Is that what The Rock actually signed up for when he was making this movie? I'm sure he met with the director, and I'm sure, I don't think Benny Safdie's putting one over on The Rock, but maybe that's what it took to get it made. He's already lined up a lot of high profile projects.

It seems as though people are gonna be able to silo Dwayne's performance, but if it's a movie that is making fun of itself and The Rock is kinda playing it serious, I'm not sure how that's gonna play. Blow something up. Yep. I mean, you don't wanna know.

Thank you. Listen, you wanna know a telltale sign that this may not work out? He returned to The Fast and the Furious when he vowed to never do that. So he knows where his bread is buttered and he needs to keep doing it. Let me tell you something, Dwayne Rock Johnson,

he's being very selfish with this new thing that he's doing where he wants to evolve. Oh, I wanna evolve, I wanna win an Oscar, I wanna have this career evolution in my 50s. How about you think about me and stop thinking about yourself and the movies that I want to watch you in and not the movies that you want to make. It's incredibly selfish of him to decide that all of a sudden

he's going to stop making these blockbuster hits and action comedies and do these movies that, eh, probably not going to watch. Didn't Van Damme do something like this where a mockumentary documentary that was done artfully by a filmmaker to make fun or parody himself Wasn't this done already right but he was in on the joke and by all accounts the Character does not he's digging everyone else's yeah He's playing it straight going for his Oscar Meanwhile Safdie is doing something on the the genre as a whole. The Rock's got a full play right now.

He is chairman of the board of TKO. That is an important position. That is a big time day job. I mean, has he not heard of the Expendables? Doesn't he know how this is gonna end? He wants to get away from the action drama, then boom, all of a sudden, you're in a submarine or whatever

with Kelsey Grammer of all people still blowing things up because you need to get back to the action genre. I should clarify, he's not chairman of the board, but he's on the board of directors, which is also kind of a full-time job. Spin the wheel again, please. Spin the wheel again. How are him and Kelsey Grammer doing the opposite

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