The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 2: That's It, That's the Take

Episode Date: February 28, 2024

Jemele Hill sticks around to talk Cam Newton and the hubris of men [cough, Tony, cough] who think they can do special things in athletics. Then, it's time for AGAINST! THE! SPREAD! and to watch a very sad video from The Daily Show. Plus, Todd Gurley, Sean McDermott, and we close out the loop on Tony's MLB hypothetical. Also, Chris has something for wine enthusiasts. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

You're listening to Giraffe Kings Network. This is the Don Lebatore Show with the Stugatz Podcast. You mentioned Cam Newton linking it to Cam Newton. What were your takeaways that were most interesting on the Cam Newton fight? Okay, so Cam Newton, we reached the point of the plan there that after somebody put their paws on us suddenly we're on a podcast talking about it. I just know of somebody that had drugged me that was six feet six tall, me and, you know, some of my friends or whatever. I don't know if I'd be doing a media tour to talk about how that happened to me.

There's a lot of disappointing things. And one of the things that come out about this in the aftermath of this conversation is how black people talk about other black people when these situations arises. This is when your neighborhood friendly race lady shows up is hold on a second. Hold on just a second. It's time for your friendly neighborhood race lady. You're good. All right. Now, because I can't have the racial take unless I have the music.

Correct. So there is, you see, when black people, when others who are not black, try to make black people into a monolithic people, meaning that if one of us does something, it somehow reflects on the entire race, we lose it. We understandably lose our shit because that doesn't, that very rarely happens to other races to some degree. It does happen a little bit, but I feel like with a degree when it comes to black people, it's far deeper. And yet I have heard over and over on social media, people saying, black people saying the same thing

that we get outraged about, that white people say about our community. So suddenly this is not just a combination of ego and bravado gone wrong and temper sclaring and trash talking all that, just a singular incident. Suddenly this is the reason why black people can't have nothing. And I just reject that so much on all levels

is that Cam you know, Cam shouldn't come back to the community. That's why he shouldn't deal with us. And that's why black people can't do this. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. This is about some immaturity that took place on both sides. I might mention because like, you know, people are sort of focused so much on Cam winning the fight. And I'm not blaming him for this incident because it looked like again, there was blame on both sides to be fight. And I'm not blaming him for this incident because it looked like, again, there was blame on both sides to be had.

Mostly I'm just like, you guys are in the presence of kids. And I thought the point of the exercise with this tournament was to expose them to somebody who has been as professionally successful as Cam who can help them understand what it takes to get to the next level. And as coaches in the position of leading young men,

you got to know better than to do this. And so there's that part of the conversation. But I really hate how this has become the lecturing of black people, mostly by other black people who are saying that we have embarrassed our entire race by this one incident. And I hate that we more than anybody else subscribe to that same thinking. It's just that automatic reflexive recoil that we have when something bad happens nationally And we find out that the person who did it was black and suddenly we all feel this sort of secondhand embarrassment that somebody got out there and acted a fool and I started I started to Leave that thinking away a long time ago

And so I because then you make it seem like the behaviors pathological and not just the actions of these individuals because that's how i took it they reflect me no more then uh... you know if uh... some celebrity that's black wins an award and so we can't play that game and so it's disappointing to find a lot of us sort of trafficking in those same stereotypes

that we get outraged by when other people say it. Walk me through two parts of this culturally because Shannon Sharp is blowing up now in the business and he's one of the people who said that this is wildly disrespectful and it would never happen at Peyton Manning's camp or Tom Brady's camp. But you're talking about how people talk about the incident afterward. How about beforehand, when I ask you about Rucker Park or And One and the idea of talking trash before you arrive at Cam Newton's camp because you think you can do something against Cam Newton and where words can escalate into what it is that we saw because you're disrespecting Cam Newton

and he's only gonna abide so much disrespect at his camp. Well, exactly, but at least the way they told it, and I don't know, at this point it's a game of who do you believe, but the trash talking seemed to be mutual on both sides. Now like trash talking is not a gateway to always leading to something violent happening, but again, when you put that Now like trash talking is not a gateway to always leading to something violent happening. But again, when you put that type of trash talk, and I think somebody, because in general,

there is a delusional quality in a lot of men who think that they are that physically, that they can, you know, that they can, they can be scythed up against a professional athlete. There's just a bravado in there about that anyway. And so then you get the extra bravado. Yeah, cause y'all, look at this, one thing a man will find is definitely delusion when it comes to how they stack up against professional athletes. You hear it all the time.

You see it all the time. Every day. Yeah. It's like, they have to see it. When you're the same size of different sorts. Yeah. Yeah. I'm just saying it's only me that I have When you're the same size of different stories. I'm just saying it's only me and the rabbit is conversations about whether or not they can they can fight a bear. It's like why do y'all believe this? I don't know.

If you had the right trainers though, Jamal. You're so delusional. Like the number, I think it was that server that they came out that's too long ago about the number of men Who think they could land a plan a land of planes safely? Now here's the things here's what you don't know when you Don't literally that light a bimini Jamel the the pilot to right in front of you because it's a small plane Right, so there's no cockpit. There's no covering So if that if that pilot goes down guess who the co-pilot is you look around you don't find them it's you that doesn't mean you're landing the plane. Yeah Tony's a pretty good point. I'll land that son of a bitch.

Once again the delusion of man. Look just give me the confidence of the average man when it comes to whether or not that they think that they could measure up to a professional athlete so you have all of this hubris is ego you know it's been a part of like that as you mentioned the ruck apart tradition in could measure up to a professional athlete. So you have all of this hubris, this ego. It's been a part of, as you mentioned, the Rucker Park tradition. In general, there is something to be said for like, hey, people wanting to see if they belong on the same field

or being the same company as some of these athletes. And this is just a situation that got out of hand, no more, no less. And as far as what Shannon said, that's what I mean to make it seem like it's pathological. And I think those, I love Shannon, reasonable minds can differ. And I think that's dangerous thinking to put out there

because it's making it seem as if only black people are inherently attracted to confrontation and disrespect. And we know that's not true. I could beat Alex Morgan one-on-one. Don't tell me I can't challenge someone just because I'm a woman Jamal. I mean I'm just saying like I'd love to see us get that same level of toxicity. So that's my I encourage women we need to be more toxic in this way. I need to be able to have the

confidence to roll up to Serena Williams and say I could beat her in one set of tennis. Do you play tennis though? I feel like I would be good at it because that's what you haven't played. You know, start with a full set, Jamel. You say, Hey, I can get a game off Serena Williams. That's that's right. I gotta start smaller than that. I can get a game off Serena Williams. It's like the athlete, y'all think y'all are in your head and in your couch versus what you actually are is truly hysterical. That was your friendly neighborhood race lady. Jamel, always nice seeing you. Thank you for stopping through. We always appreciate it. Yeah, I can't believe I did this whole thing and I didn't ask you why you're dressed in sort of like a masked adult diaper, but that's okay.

I just like it. I run my own company now and I can adhere to all of my personal things. Yeah, personal things. Thank you. Oh, okay. I love it. No judgment.

Thank you. Thank you, I appreciate it. I make my own rules in my own workplace. I wanted to thank you, Jamel, appreciate it. I wanted to get to something here, Stu Gatz, because I've been talking for a while, many years and many successive weeks about John Stewart and what I hope for John Stewart in his return

to The Daily Show. And so far, in the first three episodes, it's exceeded all expectations in a time where it's impossible to get ratings and better than ever to be a skeptic. I don't believe any of the ratings, but everyone seems to be saying that not only is the Daily Show doing better numbers than it has done since John Stuart left. But also all of the other hosts are getting a ratings bump from the fact that John Stuart has merely done three episodes so far. And he's touched a lot of people with politics,

but I'm gonna play some sound for you in the next segment of him really moving, Stu Gatz. The dog lover constituency. I think Michael Vick wildly underestimated the damage that can be done by outraged dog owners. And John Stewart has connected with a human moment of breaking down on air because he did the show the other day. A show I will repeat and continue to tell people, uh, take 60, 70, 80 hours of bandwidth a week from John Stewart to get up there on Mondays and do what he's trying to do during an election year, which is stay relevant

in political comedy, not age out of political comedy because it's a totally different time than the one he dominated. John Stewart, what he's doing on Mondays is important and three episodes in is also working because he's drawing millions of people at a time that nobody draws millions of people to a single, you know, to a single time. We all have our own menus.

Why are you shaking your head, Chris Cody? This room just exploded with debate on, skeptical Billy came out on how, how many hours he's really putting into this. It's not 80 hours a week for a 24 minute episode. What are we doing? That's crazy. 80 to 90. This writers me.

Could be 90. What do you think? How hard? 24 minutes, not 80 hours a week. Not, not. Finger guns in. What are we talking about today, boys? All right, let's do it.

Yeah. We agreed on like 30 back here. Yeah, you guys have no earthly idea how difficult it is to do these things well at the level that we produce it. That John Oliver and John Stewart do it. Like you just- I wish I was in the entertainment business. Yeah, it'd be really hard.

I wonder how it works to produce a show. What do producers even do? A good one. A good one is the park you guys are missing. I used to. Hey folks, it's Mike Ryan. Now, you've had the distinct privilege of knowing me for close to 18 years and you know that I've changed.

A lot of my personal life has changed. I've changed as a professional. I am a parent now. My level of involvement in my favorite college football program has also changed. But one thing that hasn't changed for me is my favorite beer. You know when it's real with me. I think you do anyways and you know how much I love Miller Lite. I've loved it forever, really. It's my favorite beer of all time and it made all the great moments in my life all that

much better and when Miller Lite came aboard on our show I was super stoked about it because I believed in the product because every time I take a sip of Miller Lite, I look around and I think, yeah, this was the right call. Times change. People like me can change, but you can always enjoy the great taste of Miller Lite. Tastes like Miller Time. To get Miller Lite delivered right to your door, visit MillerLite.com slash Dan. We can try to find it pretty much anywhere that sells beer. Celebrate responsibly Miller Brewing Company, Milwaukee, Wisconsin, 96 calories per 12 ounces. Don Lebatard! Yes, you can't talk about double digit national titles when every single call of you winning

the national title sounds like this. Oh, there's Stubby Jack running down his eye line. That's not true! Yeah, and there's a Wall-Wall II veteran pitching into another white guy and he avoids another white guy! Oh my god, not a name! The Fighting Iris have done it again for the eighth time on a play in white people! Spookats! Chubby checker! I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

He's black! He's black and I was really going, he was a white named Chubby Checker. I think he's like, I'm sorry, man. I'm improv in here. He's a pretty cool riff. He spells it differently. All right, his name is Chubby. Maybe you've done him incorrectly.

His name is Chubby Checkers. It's an S at the end. I feel like that should be the largest of fives. And Chubby Checker, it sounds like a college football name. This is the Don Lebatar show with the Stugats. Ah, that's right. It is time for... Against the Sprouts! Against the Spread is sponsored by DraftKings.

Stay tuned, because you'll hear more about DraftKings and all it has to offer throughout the show. DraftKings, the crown is yours. Let's start with my man Tony. Thank you, Chris. We are going to the association tonight. Battle for LA LA Dano Lakers versus the Clippers Clippers at home on this one the boats. Yeah, the Yankee Clippers minus three and a half for the Clippers I'm gonna take the Clippers to cover Jerber Going to college basketball and there's a blue blood program playing tonight at Oklahoma CF UCF

Plus two men's basketball Letdown game for the Cavs tonight against my Chicago Bulls Bulls plus five Over to you Billy. All right, I'm headed back to college basketball where Army West Point is a plus four against America and I'm gonna take Army West Point plus four. T-Y-F-Y-S. I got some sprints! I got some sprints! I got some sprints!

Over to the cost! I'm going back to the association. Ooh! How about that? No one believes in the Cavaliers? I believe in the Cavaliers. I'm going head to head with you Jess. I am taking Donovan Mitchell and the calves minus five at Chicago

I will take the timber wolves minus 12 and a half at home against the Minus 12 actually, you know, but the half point against the grisly I mean it even more difficult I believe in the Memphis grisly I want to play this sound even though it's sad sound and Already, I'm leaving Jessica has alerted me that I love sad stories. You do yep No one dies. I love the room wanted to leave Damn was talking about driving with his dead dog in his lap, you enjoyed that. You know this role in this chair is, give the show what it needs.

I'm into this story. Can't wait for it. Team player, Chris. So what I was saying earlier, John Stewart is trying to cross the political divide and that one's going to be really hard because we're super divided. He is very good at self-deprecating humor,

but I thanks to God this connects, maybe it just connects with human beings who are pet owners of any kind. Maybe it's something that is mocked by people who don't care about animals. I don't believe we've done a lot more offensive around here recently than the way you guys broke the news of that owl dying yesterday to Ron McGill

and then gracelessly handled the aftermath of that afterwards. It's lack of, wow. Yeah, you guys were mean. Bleeding, yeah. It's an owl? Cruel. But let's listen to this sound of John Stewart

connecting in a place where pet owners are gonna understand. They brought out this one-ish year old Brindle Pitbull who, this one-ish year old Brindle Pitbull who who, **** hit by a car in Brooklyn and lost his right leg. I thought I'd get further.

So it was a perfect idea. They put the dog in my lap and we left that day feeling really good that we'd help this great organization. And we also left with this one-ish year old friend of Pitbull. We called him Tipper. And in a world of good boys, he was the best. He used to come to Daily Show every day. He was part of the OG Daily Show dog crew. Parker, Qualee, Dipper, Riot, they were the OGs in the office.

And they were, Dipper would wait. And we'd come and take the show and Dipper would wait for me to be done. And he met actors and authors and presidents and kings. And he did what the Taliban could not do which is put a scare into Malala sorry. It's okay. Woo! Woo! Woo!

Um... Um... Did you pass away yesterday? Aww. He was ready. He was tired. I wasn't. In the family, we were all together. He was ready. He was tired. I wasn't.

In the family, we were all together, thank goodness. We were all with him. But boy, my wish for you is one day you find that dog, that one dog. It's just, it's the best. Here's your moment. Dupal. Who's got Dupal there?

Who's Dupal? Get Dupal. The skeptics lane is open to both Billy and Chris on that didn't take 80 hours to produce. That's the joke we were gonna go with, yeah. 14 that time. That's the joke we were gonna go with, yeah. 14 that time. That was like a 14. Yeah, and then you cut out the 24 minute episode,

four minutes about your dog is a long pause. I mean, you're really doing a 19 minute show last week. Have you ever cried over someone else's dog? It was his dog. It was his dog. But he's asking, if someone else is feeling that pain, do you ever cry with them because you feel their pain or feel, or get the reminder of

what your pain was when you lost your dog? I used to mock people who got so upset after losing their dog until I got a dog and became a dog owner. Yeah, but I have the healthy relationship for it. I cried when my dog died, but I just know no one else is going to feel that way. I felt bad for Scott Van Pelt who who did his one big thing on SportsCenter about his dog who had just died. Like I cried with him.

I did, I sent him a text. You're right. Well, you sent him a text saying, can you come on the show to talk about your dog dying? Yeah. You can't make it out! You said no. You saw Lane.

You just feel something. It's called a feeling. You saw Lane. It's a fucking whole show. That pizza. That pizza. Come on and check my dog. That pizza. You took advantage of. The tita. Come on, Chuck. You took advantage of the dog's death.

You saw an angle to get something along it. Your grief was parlayed into fraudulent stuff that you just wanted to achieve for yourself. As always, surprisingly, it worked. Very talkative chicken over there. It always works. I got lost on whose dog it was. Like in the beginning, it was like a dog, but then was it somebody else's dog?

I didn't, I didn't know. It is sad when dogs die, we can agree on that, I think. But Tony and Chris thought it was someone else's dog and they thought the dog died when it got hit by a car, so they were very confused. Right, but the tears started then, he's like, by a car I saw tears on my guard, that's not died. He lost his leg, but does it seem like the lost one died?

And then at the end of the story, he was like, he died today. Unless it was a ghost dog, Tony. I saw a lot of dogs in New York with three legs though. What? That's not true. I swear. I saw a lot. No, I'd say three at least, because there's so many people walking their dogs. It's a common occurrence there.

I saw one yesterday in Miami. It's amazing how their ability to just... Like the dog's door, I saw an an owner the dog was sniffing something I saw an owner give the dog like one of those like yanks It's like I wouldn't do that to a three-legged dog But obviously the dog was fine with it was just like a normal dog like the dog was like all right gotta go But put it on the pole Jews you're at Lebatard in New York a lot Are you surprised that no one's reported on the proliferation of three-legged dogs?

Outbreaking all over New York. I'm gonna see where the biggest population is. Don Lebatard. I feel like we need to normalize saying these scientific terms for organs on the air. Like if someone, yes. You know what? If someone takes a foul ball to the penis,

we should just say he took a foul ball to the penis. Say it. Stugatz. That freak can't kid him right in the cock-a-doodle-doo. someone takes a foul ball to the penis, we should just say he took a foul ball to the penis. Say it. Stugats. That freak can't kid him right in the cockadoodle-doo. This is the Don Lebatar Show with the Stugats. Jeremy has for us a list of other foreigners who are not in the Hall of Fame which allows us to play the Paul McCartney

sound, the weird Paul McCartney sound again. And we'll get to that in a second. We will also get to Chris Cody has now gotten the official vote on what is a legitimately good question by Tony that Billy sabotaged and has it's lit the Saber Met metrics community on fire. I do believe that the answer is going to be fairly obvious that you don't want a 250 hitter who hits a single and only a single in every game for 800 straight games. 810 game hitting streak means nothing anymore. Okay. He's right. I just want to get that on record. It doesn't mean anything. Gotcha. Okay.

It is what they would be saying if they voted no. Yeah. I, I also wanted to ask you guys if you're surprised in any way that Todd Gurley, who has not played and I believe three or four years. And I know we understand that the running back is largely disposable unless he's Derek Henry, but that Todd Gurley is younger than Derek Henry. He's been out of the league for three years. And Derek Henry is going to get another contract at 30. That's super bowl. Quite as it's kept. Like people say, Oh, Bella check one that won for Brady when Brady scored 13 points and they were able

to beat the Rams. That happened because Todd Gurley wasn't able to play as a not injured player in that game. The Rams offense was totally different without Todd Gurley, but we used up his body, forgot about him. He's been out of the league for three years and he's only 29 years old. Derek Henry is going to get another free agent contract. I thought for sure the SEC, just the workload in the SEC would make Derek Henry wear down at some point, but Derek Henry was still more of a more masculine, stronger than anybody in the league last year.

He's just like LeBron of running backs, right? Like every single season you expect, hey, like this is another year LeBron's older, maybe some health issues, maybe an injury, and it just doesn't happen. And he just continues to get better and better. But I'm gonna say he's only 30, it's going to happen very soon.

It has to happen very soon. To your point, Dan, maybe he'd still be in the league if his name was Todd Manley. You said masculine. Chris said that he knew it. I knew where he was going and I still couldn't find the sound. Did you? You know that he is there for you every time.

He has the Greg Cody thing where I can kind of tell when he's setting up a terrible joke. I'm winding up. He is the one who's more comfortable than everyone other than Greg Cody about just throwing a turd out there. Like he's some more. Yeah, that's right. And I've thrown some turd at you. I know. Why about just throwing a turd out there. Like he's some more. Yeah, that's right. And I've thrown some turd at you.

I know. Why does Greg throw a turd? All of you are great at throwing turds. Son of a... It's your greatest skill. Is that Paul McCartney? What's he doing here? That is Paul McCartney.

If you wanna get that video, and we've gotta get to this vote quickly, but before I do either of those things, I just want to throw to Billy that Sean McDermott has said that it is not a matter of if, but rather when the bills win the Super Bowl. He said- I think the question is if he will be there when it happens.

Well, this is the quote, yes, the joke I was going to make because the quote that he had was if it's a matter of if not when we win the Super Bowl And my question was gonna be what do you mean by we? Who's who's who's the we in that circumstance because you've got one one you've got one more year You've got one more year to win a Super Bowl. I'm assuming even though he's done a great deal of winning, right? He's done Well, he's got to have

Makes me uncomfortable that everyone in here is laughing at this So I'm gonna be the one to sit this out in case we have to play this in the parade of gas bags Come it's a safe place to laugh because you'll be drowned out by the other laughs. So you're good. Don't worry I mean it is pretty funny. Yeah, I'm pretty sure that I I mean, it is pretty funny. Yeah. I'm pretty sure that I could say right now that while McDermott has been coaching, he's got the best winning percentage in the league, not Andy Reed classification. I don't know if Siriani might have an objection to that or not, but I got to think that McDermott's career record is going to be by winning percentage. Since he's been coaching, like the coach stops as the bills in that. The chiefs probably be by winning percentage. He's been coaching like the coach stops as the bills in that state.

The chiefs probably have higher winning percentage. I said non Andy Reed division. Yeah. He has a six, six, 40 win percentage. So 64 one percentage. He's 73 and 41 as the head coach of the bills. Their worst year in 2018 was six and 10. All right. Just look up every other coaches winning percent. You got it. I'm on it.

Matt LaFleur is probably pretty high. Surion is 667. LaFleur is going to up every other coaches winning percent. You got it. I'm on it. Thank you. The floor is probably pretty high. Surion is 667. The floor is going to do a lot of winning too, but McDermott has done plenty of winning and is yet viewed as an underachiever because he hasn't, you know, he's been 13 seconds slow in one place and lost by a play here. They haven't won the AFC yet. That's right. I'm being told in my ear that Mike Tomlin is just below McDermott

Yeah, sample size sample size, but that's a lot of winning and We don't think of him as a winner the bills not enough winning It's the wrong winning. You gotta win in the right places do it in the playoffs It's exactly that's where we feel like the problem is like they're really good And then they win and they play the cheese and they lose Stop letting Joshy down. Don't do that little fake punt thing again. Mm-hmm enough with tomorrow Chris Cody. What? Just a series of Buffalo objections Chris give me the vote finally on what it is that all of the people that you texted say of a

And what it is that all of the people that you texted say of a 800 plus game hitting streak that involves a hitter going one for four in every single game, is that a hitter with an 800 plus game, a hitting streak, a Hall of Fame. Wait, hold on. And Tony's defense though, like how it was phrased is probably very important. So how did you phrase it to them? I phrased it to a same exact question to every person. A DH goes one for four for five straight seasons and then retires zero career extra base hits, 250 career batting average, 810 game hitting streak. Is this player a Hall of Famer? Question. You didn't ask this to the people you texted, but is this person walking away from an

810 game? It walks away from the game. Wow, yeah, follow up with that and see if walks away from the game I think they got that because it's a hundred and ten hundred and ten is every game that they Retiring and walking away are two different things. I'm not gonna walk away with diggy hung up the fire I think they got laid off. Yeah, different things. I don't know if their answers are gonna change Let's go one by one first person Jeff Passon responds. no. Oh, he said as impressive as a 810 game hitting streak is a 500 OPS is awful. You can't reward someone for being consistently bad, consistently bad. He's the opposite. He's consistently getting a hit. He's consistently. Okay. Is your point. Next response adnan, virk, your guy Taylor asked me this when you were at Super Bowl

week. You could have left that out. Is that a yes or a no? And then I was like, and that's all he wrote. And I was like, so what's your answer? Afraid of being wrong. Adnan Burke. Yes. Whoa.

Nothing else but that. My guy. I don't have his reasons, but he voted yes. So we are one in one. I think the reason would be the 810 game hit streak. That's true. That's the only reason. That would be the only argument.

What else do we have here? I'm riveted. One in one, Dan. Alright. Mike, sure. Let's see what he has to say. One word, response. No.

And what does he know? And then his next text. Well, that text was one word. And then he responded. Would be exciting every time he started a game over three though Alright, so we have Tim Kirchin and Boog Shambi whose results should I read next it is too far? Is there any? You're trying to kill Donnie four times today!

Every college football game for like five years would get interrupted. Oh, he's the worst. My assumption is by you asking who you should read next they both said no because if it was yes then you'd read the yes and then you'd have to. Do you want Boog or Tim Kirchin? Well, he already told us it's not a tie so we already know what the next action is. Well, Boog didn't respond to me. Still? So still give us booze. I kind of gave away the goods Tim Kirchin I one word response. No, we lose three to one. No follow-up. No wins. The only yes voter adnan

And how credible is he? Can you give me an update? Jeremy, please on foreigners who are no longer in the hall of fame or not in the hall of fame and give me an update, uh, Jeremy, please, on foreigners who are no longer in the hall of fame or not in the hall of fame and give me an update on, uh, factually what I was saying about McDermott's winning percentage. Well, first on the winning percentage, um, Sean McDermott 73 and 41 since 2017 when he entered the league. The only teams that are better are the New Orleans saints, Baltimore Ravens and Kansas city chiefs. Obviously the saints, Sean Payton, no longer their head coach. So if you're looking for winning percentages in the league amongst coaches, you got Andy

Reed, John Harbaugh is the only one you missed. As for foreigners, Bobby, a break. Not in the hall of fame should be in the hall of fame. Farmer, not in the hall of fame. What the? Rafael Palmero, not in the Hall of Fame. What the fuck? Rafael Palmero, not in the Hall of Fame. What the fuck? Miguel Tejada, not in the Hall of Fame. What the fuck? Louis Tion, not in the Hall of Fame. What the fuck?

Johann Santana, what the fuck? And Andrew Jones. Chris Cody, what is your problem? You're a beer guy and your father is a beer guy. You descend from a strong lineage of being beer people. What is your objection to wine people? Well, I have an objection because I take offense to what you actually just said because I, yes, I love a cold one, a Miller light, like as much as the next one next one but I am not one of these I'm more going after the enthusiasts there's beer

enthusiasts these people they I'm not your beer guy dude you don't know but you're I know I probably look like one but I don't like IPAs like they fill me up except your beer okay I mean if I had to be no if I'm one of these I'm a liquor guy I like a good whiskey oh Oh yeah. So I would say a beer, liquor, and wine. There are people out here, and I wanna dissect who's the worst of this group. Cause I experienced wine people for the first time. Wine people are the worst.

They're just boring. Billy, why are you whispering Jesus on something that only you, Jessica and Jeremy, are laughing about? No, she said it out loud No one got the joke I didn't I hardly know her liquor guy Cuz I said I'm a liquor guy and liquor and she said hell. Yeah, I don't know I'm back row just mood No, but I really want to dissect saving a bellichick would be if they didn't

Yeah, we mentioned I literally want everyone here cuz like you have to have an opinion on this Who's the worst of this crew and let me let me make my pitch for why wine people are it's just boring Man like I was at the wine thing at South Beach food and wine and this guy Dan Costa spit and fire look like a good hang He hated it because I don't know that he didn't say it just a boring just what's the topography of this? Winer and I was just like the most but it's really important is really important because where the grapes grow, if there's an altitude that's a little bit higher, there's someone that's a little bit lower, they get grown in the valley, like it's a different taste. I told you guys this story before.

The one class I took in college with the hopes of actually just having it be easy and learning so that I could order the correct wine with a fish and not be an idiot. White wine. Was a wine tasting class. And I walk in and the first class, the instructor reaches into the jacket of his coat and pulls out a grape, a cluster of grapes and says by the end of this semester,

you'll be able to tell me based on looking on this what kind of soil this was, you know. Please tell me, Volcano soil, please tell me you dropped the glass. I struggled, I did not drop, I got like a C plus or something and had to fight my way through the class because it was super hard and never got good at ordering wine either. I was focused on dirt, it seems like in this class. How does that help you with this?

The dirt's very important, it's what grows the grapes. And so much like over-laping. There was one time the guys like, it was a Pinot Noir tasting, he's just like, you know you never met a Pinot Noir and you say to yourself after, needs more oak. And I'm telling you, that crushed. And I'm sitting to my wife, I'm just like wine humor.

Like wine humor over here, like I was just like, I'm telling you and they were, the whole room was like, ah! Sounds like a real Wienzheimer. Oh my God, where was this? That's all at South Beach Funnel 1. That's all I learned is that oak is with Pinot Noir. Man, that's the one thing I took away.

It's a lot of oak. Asian oak barrels, and it's very important. It's a top flavor for a nice Pinot Noir. Maybe a little leather, maybe a nice little cherry, maybe a nice dark fruit. I think the debate is between wine people and beer people. I don't have a problem with liquor people. Are they beer?

Oh, you mean like craft beer? Enthusiast, just people that go and taste different things and they gotta get all the stuff and it's just they like the really dark beers. I don't see, Billy says I'm a beer guy, I hate dark beers. I believe that this conversation, like a lot of the ones we have around here, where we're the ones mocking and ignorant. The people who know about these things would object to the amount of mocking ignorance that is in this room because they're aficionados with expertise about how wonderful it is to

know the differences between many different wines because the best of the best wine is an exceptional experience. And if you know about these things, you would object to everything we're saying here and how dumb we sound and probably uncultured. I think Chris is referring to the type of person who is like either a wine snob or like a beer hipster, like the person that wants you to know how expert they are. And I would argue that like almost any topic, that person's the worst. It doesn't matter if it's beverages, sports, movies, whatever, no one likes that guy.

My brother-in-law is like this with whiskey. Every place we travel, I gotta go to a liquor store and get a local whiskey. It's like, dude, it burns your throat. It's that it becomes their identity, I think is really the thing here. I think also we all think of this person as looking like Paul Giamatti from sideways and

Condescending us at every turn because they know more about wine than we do and I'm sitting there looking around like can I drink all This wine no one else is drinking all of it There's one guy who got me this guy ahead of me like one row ahead of me He was crushing every wine But everyone else was just like sipping there like at the end of this hour-long thing Everyone looked like they still had wine in their last. And I'm like, what are we doing here, folks? I only drank two of them because I didn't want to be,

I didn't want, the way I was judging this guy who crushed all of them, I was like, to my wife, I'm like, I'm only drinking these two because I don't want people to be looking at me. Like this guy's crushing way too much wine. Wine tastings are the best though because you just end up getting hammered. It was at noon too.

That's it. How is it that, thank you, Jessica. getting hammered. Yep. It was at noon too. That's it. That's it. How is it that, uh, thank you, Jessica. I appreciate that, that that was your take. So like, here's a three ounce pour. I'm like, all right, I'll have six of these. I, uh, I do want that to become your signature Arnold Schwarzenegger phrase where you hit somebody with somebody, something, and then you just say, that's it.

That's my take. Just hit somebody with a sentence and then knock them over with it. That's it. That's, that's my take. That's my take. Just hit somebody with a sentence and then knock them over with it. That's it. That's my take. That's my voice. Do that. You Chris Cody, you at a wine tasting and a fancy gala of gourmet people being a hotel hall. So where did you end up though as you tried to taste liberally from the great excesses that are gourmet Miami because there were a lot of good places where there were a lot

of good parties and you braved all of the traffic and all of the inconvenience to get to one of these crowded spaces. How did you fit in because they are a lot of culinary experts. It's not a lot of people just looking for a party. I fit in all right. I think there's different kinds of people at these things. There's the people that go to every year and that they're the people that I was just complaining about.

And then there's the people that are there like me, like, oh, it's a one time exciting thing. So we mingled with some people, but it's definitely a vibe over my pay grade, for sure. Before we get out of here, can you guys just give me, I heard you talking earlier about Fidel Castro, and I don't know what the story was, why it is. Why the fuck we do that?

This is a wild story. This is, all right. So I gotta pull up the tweet. Yeah, all right, so there was a, man, this is with a minute left. There was a parody article from- He invented the Euro step. Yeah, that's the parody.

So there's a parody article from Medium where someone, there's photos of Fidel Castro playing basketball. And so it says that through a journal entry by Shay Guevara in December of 1962, the quote was, in his frequent basketball matches, Fidel has started using a new move. He simply calls calls the step. It is undeniably effective, yet is its goodness equally undeniable? As revolutionaries, we must not merely pay attention

to ends but to means. I worry that this flash and pomp is not befitting of the revolutionary leader. It serves to separate him too much from those caught in the chains of a modeling life, marred by oppression and economic strife. Yes, it leads to a basket. but at what cost to the communal spirit? And the thing that I loved about it was that everyone said the Euro step should be called the Cuban shuffle.

That is not Fidel Castro. That's DJ Khaled. And I want you guys to put on the poll, please at LeBertard show. Did Fidel Castro invent the Euro step? That's it. That's the take. That's a good, limited fake, Paul McCartney. Hey, folks. It's Mike Ryan. Now, you've had the distinct privilege of knowing me for close 18 years. And you know that I've changed. A lot of my personal life has changed. I've changed as a professional. I am a parent now. My level of involvement in my favorite college football program has also changed. But one thing that hasn't changed for me is my favorite beer. You know when it's real with me. I think you do anyways. And you know how much I love Miller Lite. I've loved it forever, really. It's my favorite beer of all time. And it made all the great moments in my life

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