The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 2: That's Showbiz, Baby!

Episode Date: May 15, 2024

No one knows what the audience wants more than Meadowlark Media consultant Billy Gil. He leads us to The King Charles Algorithm. Then, we have top tier expertise on this week's Against the Spread that includes Ian the offensive line expert dissecting hockey, Lucy's astrophysicist friend Hannah, and a tennis challenger in Bordeaux. Plus, Dan, despite the show working against him, wants to discuss JJ Redick vs. Doc Rivers, Stephen A. Smith's contract year, and the sports media landscape. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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I will tell you that long time listeners to this show have spoken. They do not want to hear me talking about the sports industry. Sports media industry. The sports industry, yeah, like the games they wanna hear about that. More of that sometimes they have. Unless it's hockey, then they say less of that. Or they eat less of that too.

Very picky, if we're gonna be honest with you. Talk more sports, but the right sports, not this sport, that sport. Come on, make it a mind, people. Billy, I would love for you. Yeah, please them all, Billy. Consulting here. I would love, Billy, honestly,

if you want to be someone who does get extra money as a metal art consultant, but only on air, speaking most honestly for the audience in the regard that you just did, this is what, like you on behalf of the audience, Juju does that very well, but I would be willing to pay extra for this, with Stugat, for this character to be stronger and give us honest consulting opinions on what needs to be better around

here. I would take it because I would say to you while our long time audience doesn't want to hear me talk about the sports media anymore, it does seem to be that people who don't listen to this show eat up that stuff and then end up at our show because they want to hear more of its or are our audience rejects it but the audience at large that consumes sports media absolutely not they want to hear about or g three being replaced

by jason kelsey on monday night football even though jason kelsey is saying They want to hear about RG3 being replaced by Jason Kelsey on Monday Night Football even though Jason Kelsey is saying, I am virtually guaranteed to have CTE. They want to hear about is NBC going to outbid TNT and end the greatest sports studio show of all time. Hold on a second because I think we have imaging for this. Do you get annoyed every time Dan Levitard pontificates about the sports media industry? Well, too bad, motherf*****. He knows he don't give a damn about what he's gonna say. It's time for sports media talk today.

You're good. I am? You are good. I am? You are now. Okay. But I don't think that's what I want to talk about. Oh wow. Oh wow.

The old good. I'm not sure. The old bait and switch. I do want to, I want Metal Art Consultant Billy Gill to opine, speak on behalf of the audience on things this show needs to do better. I don't know about that. I feel like I'm in a lose-lose position there. Okay, you either take...

If I say the unpopular thing, then I get yelled at by one side or the other side, you know? No, but you pretty much do that all of the time. You speak for the audience as if you don't think that I don't listen on Friday when you guys are spinning that wheel and the only... I didn't want to do that. We knew you were listening. I didn't want to do that. The only topics that you went to are the topics and the things that you wouldn't go to are things that I like to talk about. You do it in the shadows.

I didn't do that. It's an inside job! No. Can I ask you guys something? No. King Charles in this picture, is he in hell? What is this painting of King Charles? Did you see the official first portrait of King Charles? You know King Charles, King of England? Familiar of King Charles? Did you see the official first portrait of King Charles?

You know King Charles, King of England? Familiar with King Charles? That's the official first portrait of King Charles. He's bleeding. Well, I don't know what's going on here. Dan? Well, what's going on is you've sprung something on me that has no context whatsoever,

that has nothing to do with what we were talking about. Well, I was on TMZ and it popped up. Yeah, okay, keep your distractions to yourself. I'm doing the show over here. Paid consultant. Yeah. Wants to be executive producer. Not really.

Obviously not really. With Art Bryles, what do we think's going on here? That's a weird first portrait. Would you not agree with that? Why is it in our show right now? Well, because the internet's buzzing about it. Okay. Yeah, it's trendy.

But that's not what we were, I was trying to do the show. But this is Billy's job as a consultant. I'm consulting you. Is to tell you what the internet is buzzing about. Now when did that become his job? Nudgeing you slightly over it. When did that become his job?

I'm talking about King Charles. It's not his job. I'm telling you, put King Charles in the algorithms. We're gonna be buzzing. We're gonna be the biggest sports show in England right now. Sorry. Son of Queen Mum.

That's all my knowledge. Why are you looking at me? I didn't do anything. Queen Mum. You didn't do anything. What did I do? You didn't do anything. What you've done, you and him for 20 years. What? No, you. Who? You and him for 20 years.

You didn't do anything. I was doing the show. I know. I was doing a show. I was trying to do it with you. That's right. You were trying to do with me, but then the money, he started doing the show he likes to do. And where did you go? I go with the flow. No, you go with him is what you do. And then you two do that for 20 years. And he yells at me, I want it in writing. There's a butterfly on his shoulder. Is that butterfly in hell?

Wow. Or did that butterfly accidentally land on the painting and now it's stuck and dead. The thing that I wanted to talk about, because there are two things here I wanted to talk about. Oh, gosh. And that wasn't one of them. This is not one of them, and it's the first I'm

learning of this. And the way that Billy did that, which is just to throw it at me when I'm in the middle of doing our show, and I have no context whatsoever for what it is that he's doing, it's just, it works against his career advancement. We have video of the unveiling if you would like that. We can kind of put that up there.

So here's the king and there, oh! There he is. In hell. With a floating head. With a butterfly that may or may not be living. Well, it's dead now if it's stuck to the painting. This is like the awkward videos you see of celebrities that they get the sculptures and it looks nothing like them I would imagine unless he likes this right you think he likes this. I'm sure he approved it. I mean

Well, yeah that family you think yeah, I don't think he surprised the Royals with these things Back to you the thing it did they didn't like that not back to you then back to you The thing that I wanted to do here. There were two. That I thought you guys would enjoy, Iceivert on X wrote what I believe to be a sports poem. Okay. Nobody understands the bond between a boy

and the mediocre wide receiver he watched when he was nine years old. Oh, that's right. Brian Hardline, Chris Chambers, Devon Bass. Wink, Rebet. This is a game that could be played forever. Now does it also, Lucy, nobody understands the bond between a girl and the mediocre wide receiver she watched as a child.

I was more in the mediocre quarterbacks. I think that was more my style. That's all you had. So if I said, if I tried to connect with you, a nine-year-old Lucy loves this quarterback who's not very good, but she thinks he's good because she's being introduced to quarterback play. Look, I got introduced to football with Iowa football so my entire

perception of everything very skewed. Also my parents got divorced around that time so everything is off. I don't know what's real or what's not. So does this does this tweet that speak to you like a poem the way that it speaks to a nine-year-old boy who would become a sports fan because he fell in love with some crappy receiver that you know had four hundred forty yards for the dolphins one season sure so my like team they got me into iowa football and football in general was two thousand nine i want full team led by ricky stansy and when i went to the big ten championship game like three years ago i got super drunk and i saw

him there and i saw the whole team and I told them that they changed my life and I started crying. And they were like, who is she? And I was like, you guys don't understand, I work at sports because I love you guys so much. And they were like, okay, cool. And it was very embarrassing.

So it's where I wanted to go, Billy. I thought there'd be a decent show there. Good path. I talked about me crying. I feel like that's great. I agree. You agree it's good that she cries? Yes, for content.

Yes, for content. Happy tears for content. I mean, we've been milking Lucy for those for an entire year. No one around here cries around sports. You guys don't even care about sports comparatively Comparatively you guys I would say are totally indifferent about sports compared to how Lucy feels them not you Jeremy I'm gonna leave you out of this Roy

Don't look at me like that as if your soul isn't dark like you don't give a you don't give tears of joy To your history to to a regular season game why is Roy sold dark look at him yeah look at me look at him for 20 years Jimmy Cefalo had to be one of those guys right Jimmy Cefalo an average wide receiver that you played football he was a he caught a touchdown a bomb in a Super Bowl. He did Ricky Prole Oh Ricky Prole. I feel like that. I feel like our audience could play that game forever I'll have an Harper naming well Alvin Harper's not mediocre Alvin Harper wasn't mediocre. It was me with the Tampa But that is that a nine-year-old wide receiver. I don't want mean to argue with the nine-year-old you Roy

But Alvin Harper was a number one receiver when he left Dallas and failed at it right so does that go mediocre I feel like he was a very good wide receiver I'm with you not good enough this is right the Ricky prole isn't Brian heartline Brian heartlines a good one for a nine-year-old yes that's a great one Greg Camarillo that's kind of. Yes, that's a great one. Greg Camerillo. That's kind of, that's almost below average. That would be today's barrios, right? But he had a big catch on a one-in-15 team, right?

He had that touchdown. He did, he saved the season. Some would say he's a legend, I mean. Yeah. Put it on the poll, please, Juju. Would some say that Greg Camarillo is a legend Because I don't believe a single person would say some would know. Okay. I heard that already. Thank you metal art consultant We don't need an echo. This place is already an echo chamber

One moment Hall of Fame Camarillo Wow That's true. That was another game. That's a good one. Do you like that? That's a good one for the one moment Hall of Fame. Who are the one moment Hall of Fame first ballot? He has Reggie Miller in there for some reason. Nine seconds. Hall of Famer first ballot, one moment Hall of Fame. There are two moments in that nine seconds though.

Steve Bartman. You're right Roy. I didn't think about that. Who was the David Tyree? One moment Hall of Famer. Mediocre receiver. Who was the giant, David Tyree? The giant. David Tyree. One moment of all famer. Mediocre receiver. It's a good game.

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Stugatz. Um, well, you know, I, well, yeah, you know. This is the Dan LeBathardt Show with the Stugatz. ["Stugatz Theme Song"] That's right. It's time for... Again, Suspense! What happened there? I don't know why we're so bad at this after so much time. Draft Kings, I'm sorry. Draft Kings, I'm just sorry.

No, we're starting over there. Oh, I thought it was funny. I thought we were playing. I thought we were fooling around. No? That was too sloppy. That's where Chris takes it very seriously. Okay, now, you know what? I'm leaving all this in.

Just start over. Just leave it all in. Just leave it all in. Our incompetence. If Mike would do this, we'd get to start over. Chris Cody, our incompetence is something. Look, we either succeed or fail on our incompetence because doing it the competent way, it ain't working.

Bingo. That's right, it's our first time doing Against the Sports Press! And it is brought to you by draft King Sportsbook. Stay tuned because you'll hear about all that draft Kings has to offer throughout the show. Draft Kings, the crown is yours. Roy kick us off. All right. Game five of the Avalanche stars series. I'm going with the stars. They are a home favorite goal and a half center side of the blurry

and the streusel suspension, the Stars have won the last eight games after a road win. They won game four and they have won by two in the last three games. So I'm gonna say that this trend will continue. Go with the Stars as a home favorite, one and a half. Again, the Spread. Jeremy.

I'm really into tennis now because of the movie Challengers. So I found a Challenger tournament in Bordeaux. Kyrian Jacque against Andy Murray. Andy Murray is minus 165. I'm taking Andy Murray. Against the spread. You're doing Moneyline. One moment Hall of Famer.

Yes. Lucy. More WNBA action. I'm gonna take the Chicago Sky to cover plus eight against the Wings. Both teams are missing their big right now. Camila Cardoso's out for six weeks, very sad. But the Sky beat the heck out of the Liberty

in the preseason. I know it's preseason, but the vibes are high. I think the Sky will cover. This is Angel Reese's WNBA debut. And that's a guess. That's a guess. Billy, bring us home. Real quick though, just right there. Lucy, do you follow?

Juju tries and works very hard on these parlays. It hurts him when he loses. And last night he got two easy rebounding numbers in the WNBA. And Vander Sluyt killed him by not having enough assists. But Juju really knows what he's doing when he's analyzing this sport and it hurt me to see him lose that three team parlay because VanderSloot had five assists instead of six and a half. Mystics were a problem last night. I'm shocked like the Liberty were trailing most of that game. I'm sorry for Juju and I think you should bet

on DraftKings but I don't know how much you should trust me because I don't put my whole heart and soul into it. I do try but I don't put my whole heart like Juju does. Billy, bring us home. All right, Dan, I'm gonna take the Carolina Hurricanes minus one and a half over the Rangers. Wow. Why, you ask.

It's a great question. I don't know if you guys were watching but during the NFL D watch-along, we had an offensive line expert named Ian, who we later revealed to be Taylor's roommate. Now, I found out that Ian is actually a giant Rangers fan. It's the number one team that he follows. And after the last game, Ian was not happy.

He said, quote, Panarin is a fraud. Been saying that for years. He's a regular season merchant. So are Kreeter and Zabanajad. Kor is made up of losers. And for that reason, I am taking the Carolina Hurricanes minus one and a half over the New York Rangers. Against the Spren!

Okay, objectively, I'm grateful that you poured yourself into that kind of research. Research. Yes, getting Taylor's roommate. Crider, not Creador. Yes. The bread man. I will tell the audience and people who watch the show

on the DraftKings network and watch it seriously for information, because on channel 1168 on SamsungTVPlus.com and on the DraftKingsNetwork.com. A regular season merchant, Dan. There are people looking to this channel for their gambling information. And you have just suggested, okay, and I'm gonna go to my hockey expert here for help.

Ian, you have your hockey expert, I have mine. I have Roy. Yours is Roy. Just, Roy, forgive me, but if I were to tell you that the Rangers, the best team in hockey, are going to lose tonight by more than a goal, you would tell me that you think that's probable, possible, likely?

It's probable. They lost that home to the Carolina Hurricanes last time, so it's probable. Probable that the Rangers will lose by more than a goal? Yes, it's probable. I mean, the Hurricanes can get an empty net goal and they can lose by two. Jeremy made a pick on a tennis match off a movie he saw.

Well, and more than that, here's the thing. When I heard the way that he made that pick, I was legitimately thinking to myself, is he making a bet that makes him look like an asshole on purpose? Yeah, that's right. I'll tell you this, the stakes are high in this one for Ian because he said, quote, if the Rangers blow this,

I will never watch another hockey game for the rest of my life. So game for his fandom, game for his life. We are in a contract here with DraftKings. Yeah. Yeah. That's why if I don't know something, I reach out to the experts, Ian. All around us, all around us on this network, this gambling network, all around us are people

who are wildly informed on how it is they make their bets, they are touts, they are helpful, they are information people. And we sit here like a turd in a, in a, in a, no, no, a turd in a permit in a don't know a turd in a fruit punch bowl metal at a party at a great party a gambling party we sit in the middle of it betting tennis cuz this one saw a movie and betting the character betting carolina by more than a goal is why they get every game on tape he's in sales we think. You want those picks from Ross Tucker huh? Ross Tucker is more informed. You think Ross Tucker is watching more Islander games or Rangers games whatever than Ian?

Doubtful. I doubt it. But who knows because Ross Tucker's time seems to be working very different than everyone else's time. Guy knows everything. NFL, college, he has a show for every different sport and he knows everything about all of them. How? How does Ross Tucker have the time?

I just texted my best friend Hannah and asked her who she thinks is going to win tonight, and she has never watched a hockey game this entire season. She's picking the Rangers, and she's an astrophysicist. She's real smart. I'll text Joey.

Dan, you know what I found out about Hannah today? An anagram. Lucy, can I? You said Anna about Hannah today? An anagram. Lucy, can I, you said Anna or Hannah? Hannah. Okay, I don't know. Hannah too, depending on how you spell it. Phil McCaffey. Even though there's two N's, it's also an anagram.

Same with one N, Anna. Anagrams are fun. Race car. A anagram. She keeps talking. Lucy, I would like to talk to Hannah, the astrophysicist, and make hers the bet of the week that we're betting because I want better information

than this group of clowns is providing me. So she said, I don't think that's what I just said. I don't know what she was trying to type there. It doesn't make sense, but she said, if I'm wrong, that's showbiz, baby, so you have to trust that. I also, I went to get another source, and I texted my little sister, and I said do you think and she said Rangers Kane's fans are annoying

two great sources Don't worry Dan. I texted my brother as well. We'll find out soon I mean it was an asshole bet on purpose you were making right the movies really good But just see challengers just all of it tenant, I'm gonna bet tennis, look at me, I probably smell like potpourri. Thanks. Okay, that's, yes, all right, that's what we were doing. The thing I wanted to get to before-

Willie Galt. You're going too old, Stu Gotts. Pick something in this century for people to connect to. It was my childhood. I know, but you're making- When he was nine. I know, but you're making jokes for it like you're making jokes for people. Freddie Sullivan?

We didn't get to your guys's against the spread. You're right, you're right. I don't have it against the spread because I wasn't prepared for this segment. You need an Ian in your life. You have actively played defense against me today in a way that has rarely been this undercutting. Defense wins championships baby. That's show business. Hannah said that.

The story I was trying to get to. I want to talk to Hannah, the astrophysicist, and I want to make bets with her. She's so smart. Not Ian. No. No, see, this is what I want to do with our show. No, not, no, don't let Billy's team of dumb demons

spew all over the bottom of this company and piss all over the show, no. I mean. Ian broke down everyone that was drafted on the offensive line, except Senators because the Jets didn't need one. All right, all right, let's have Ian go against the astrophysicist head to head

and let's see, let's put some money on it. You're informed idiot or Lucy's actually smart person who doesn't know anything, but at least we're gonna choose an astrophysicist and not Taylor's roommate who's not named Ian. Well, I will say this. I've never met Ian in person, so I can't completely vouch for him, but I was also told in my headset

that Danny Benitez's cousin is also an astrophysicist. Yeah, this is what Billy wants to do. You can have a round table of astrophysicists. No, I've got enough Danny f***ing Benitez's I'm paying around here. Because we've hired everybody's friends around here to run our video department. His cousin though, astrophysicist.

No, I don't need any more of these people from the Miami that they told me never to build this in. Yeah. What do you mean by these people? My people. Oh, Lavernius Coles my life Coles is not mediocre He's that Laverne go that's not fair

Find me Laverneus' Coles' best seasons. They are not mediocre. Roddy White? No, don't change it. And Roddy White was very good. How do you not know the definition for mediocre? You're right, I should know it. No one's more mediocre than me.

Joey likes Carolina. So now we're split. What do we do? The store, well, probably not get another contract from DraftKings. Oh. If I had to guess, my guess would be that in a contract year, they would

find this segment insufficient for the people who want gambling content. I don't know. I trust my sister. I don't think anybody's giving you info on the Challenger tournament in Bordeaux though, Dan. Yeah, the Bordeaux was the, like the Bordeaux, I'm like he's not doing this on purpose,

but when you said Bordeaux, I'm like he is, he must be. He's leaning into I'm going to be an asshole on purpose. It was the Bordeaux that got me. It's what got me too, so's why I paid attention to it. The story I was trying to get to, I'm gonna tease a segment here because I think it's good. Just put up on the screen the frozen picture of the story I'm gonna talk about next

because I've been wanting to get to this for two segments. This is sports television. Stephen A's face. Just all of it. No, it's how Stephen A is gonna age with grace by empowering very strong, funny people to take that show into whatever it becomes. It's great.

It's a great career move. What you see on the screen is Stephen A's future and those guys are dominating sports media and JJ Reddick can have any job he wants. I've been trying to get to this story for two segments. Would you guys please allow me or do you want to give me more information from Taylor's roommate about what's going to happen in the vine? The Dan LeBattard Show with StuGots is sponsored by BetterHelp. We all carry around different stressors, big and small. When we keep them bottled up, it can start to affect us negatively.

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That's BetterHelp, H-E-L-P dot com slash D-L-B. Don LeBretard. Photography's not as hard as it's made out to be, and now with computers, I mean, you can make anything look like anything, Dan. It's almost cheating. It's not fair. If you push a button and it takes 1,000 pictures, you can make anything look like anything, Dan. It's almost cheating. It's not fair. If you push a button and it takes 1,000 pictures,

you're going to find a good one in the batch. There were a lot of photographers there taking thousands of pictures. One got that photograph. OK, good retort. Stugats. Haven't you ever passed by photographers? Ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch- photographers, I guarantee you when that shot was taken, we didn't just hear, that's not what you heard. If you were by that camera in my ear with that, he does a good camera. So, Stigatz, I need to tell our audience and everyone here, wherever it is that you are

tired of me talking about sports media, I totally get it. I am tired of me talking about it too. It has been, not just talking about it, but living it over the last few years has been quite the illuminating experience because our business is changing. Anybody who's been with us for this long knows everything that happened with us. And it's an interesting thing to in the pandemic, leave a safe thing that's changing, and just sort of push ourselves into an

unknown future where you're fighting for yourself, you're self-employed, and the media landscape is totally changing and oh look during that time Travis Kelsey and Jason Kelsey just built a giant entire empire and look over here in that time Shannon Sharp has decided to get in the game in a way that notices what mcafee is doing and says well i can be that because i'm going to be a workaholic late in life who competes the way i did a football and fucking watch what i do now when i get some power in some business and steven

a links up there and says yes welcome here first take will have a platform and will build all our own shit on the s p m because he has been a change everyone sees the game right everyone sees mac of these renting back if he seventeen million dollars rents comes in and engulf steven a salary and renting they don't own mac of the mac of the plays there and gives what he wants to to them

because he passed steven a let's not say invoice or face of a franchise but didn't money and now steven is coming up for a contract he just buried skip bayless and ended his career because i told you at the beginning of this to god's watch how the old guys in media who have always been the king's age whether it's jim rohm or collin cowell heard getting into business with shannon sharp as we get into business with all the king's age whether it's jim rohm or collin cowell heard getting into business with shannon sharp as we get into business with all the

smoke and now try to make big deals in the realm where jj reddick resides where he's saying himself okay i've built this really cool thing over here it's a plaything it's a hobby to i want to coach with lebron who charlotte job not enough i'm gonna go to the head of the. What do I want to do with my life as someone who regrets not being around for my child on Christmas days? Do I want to compete against the media where it's an

easy win because it's not as tough? They all just realized it's to got to all of them. Wait, all I got to do is beat LeBotard and Stephen A? All I got to do is beat cowherd? Wait, the punter McAfee can do that that how did he do that i'm more famous than him i'm so i don't i've got no no no no i don't know kelsey builds that and now amazon's bidding for that and and jason kelsey and his brother goes right to the front line or g three get out of here yet you may have a media career but it's not going to be on the biggest thing no jason kelsey gets at a center gals goes right to the front line or g three get out of here yet you may have a media career but it's not going to be on the biggest thing no jason kelsey gets at a center gales goes right to the

front line that happened in the last three years that happen even though travis kelsey was insta gots is here in tahoe hey how do i do this that all happened how do i do this how do i get to where you guys are that's the conversation in tahoe and how does he do it? In 10 minutes. Yep.

As soon as he gets into the game, he does it. Now, JJ Reddick, and I'm sorry if you're tired of hearing it, but it's been my life for three years and it's been the second worst thing in my life in those three years because all of these athletes are coming for gambling money that is keeping the entire industry alive as he has p n and disney shake so much that they got a rent to mcafee and here comes kelsey and shannon sharp how do i use your platform to build what steven a smith did as steven a smith

every day on their air from ten to noon is selling i'm in a contract here on the biggest voice you got and i'm about to be a free agent to do whatever i want look at what i built here i built this entire thing that has been number one for twelve years i did it over bailus bailus went over there and competed did it the same way lost has paul pierce using the n word on undisputed by accident

because that entire thing is caved in as shannon sharp and jj retic are sitting next to steven a smith and he ages like that i've told you i admire that man now i don't love some of the things that he does to broaden audience because i don't think audience is always the most important thing but as a conqueror as a dude who knows how to we met this industry there's never been anyone better because look at the teammates he has now stood out she's gone and grab

the best you can grab that what it is that they do which is make good television and he's got total power in a contract year about to leave the espion as all the athletes around you paint job but what you're paying troy ackman what how are they worth more than i am how my getting and he's got a production deal so it's just it's the big salary plus how do i build this with the espion because you don't think that

all my productions and tom brady and steven a you don't think he wants to compete with him with them there for the big money how do i partner almost got a ten-year deals to got it's crazy it's all built around elia and paint are willing to join you from their basements they are programming espn right now that i'm in power and it used to be nick con

of c a a who is programming espn he is now doing the wrestling stuff he's now alive television bringing wrestling the netflix so this game has been my life for the hardest three years of my life and i'm fascinated by what it is that's happening course yeah jay-jay reddick has been great on first rate uh... great on first take uh... great uh... because he's smart he knows the numbers and now do i want to do a podcast will bron james and build that empire because

man it's great dominating making interesting content about the sport i love but what a coach lebron james that's the choice that one of the people on first Take who has used First Take very well has because the whole thing at ESPN is changing where everyone can lily pad, jump, you get there, they build your thing, you use them, you go to the next thing. McAfee can do that if he wants.

You don't want Aaron Rodgers on next year? Okay. I'll do this somewhere else. You've helped me build it. Or I'll get ballot check right were saving or right correct and i will dominate whatever the future of the s p n becomes but

the thing i wanted to get to as it relates j j reddick and dock rivers because dock rivers before j j reddick played the media game better than anybody charisma charm doesn't matter how much i lose i am great at just making you like me and so i throw the espions entire broadcast plan for the nba into total

upheaval they kick out jeff and gandhi make a spot for me because i've been let go and i immediately jump well i can coach on a so care about a better job over here in actual sports not sports media which the athletes know they can conquer it's easy dock rivers is conquered media that's easy

what he can't conquer is above him is he's won one title right with a team for all time the birth all the super teams and jj reddick says things like this about him and you will hear afterward dock rivers recent rebuttal with steven a smith so play all of that sound please i've seen the trend for years with the trend the trend is always making excuses get dock we get it taking over a team in the middle of the season is hard.

It's hard, we get it. Just like getting traded in the middle of the season is hard for a player, we get it. But it's always an excuse. It's always throwing your team under the bus. They lose to Memphis. Oh, it's his players. Memphis was playing G-league guys and two-way guys.

Then you look at his quotes over the weekend, now he wants to take credit for the James Harden trade to the Clippers working out. He wants credit for that there's just no there's never accountability with that guy that was a couple of months ago and everyone seized on it a lot of people were hearing it for the first time even though a lot of people know of Doc Rivers he is extraordinary at the media game yes he is really great at how it is it

that I get you to like me. Well this is how, he rebuts JJ Reddick when he's on Stephen A Smith's show this way and what I want you to listen to is how candy sweet he is all around it while really insulting JJ Reddick. JJ Reddick was on the record getting on you pretty adamantly about some of the things that you were saying

once you ultimately ended up in Milwaukee and talked about passing a buck or whatever. Did you two ever talk about that? Did you ever resolve that with one another? No, no. JJ's had a problem with me for a while. And that's fine. Players do.

One thing, when you coach Steven A, you can be called a players coach or whatever you want to be called. But if you make decisions that the player doesn't agree with, and in JJ's case we didn't side him back, you know, with the Clippers I stopped playing him as much because he wasn't very effective in the playoffs. And you know, that's all known. But I'm fine with that. Like usually they all come back, do you? They do, because they know everything you tried to teach them or do for them was in good.

JJ Reddick's best numbers of his career was under one coach, and you're looking at him right here. I'm the one that grabbed him out of Milwaukee and decided to start him. From that point on, his career took off. All the movement plays, everything. First play of the game, every game. When we play with the Clippers, you would have coaches and teams come up to you and say, you're not

going to score on that first play with JJ, and I would always say just watch this. We're going to figure it out. So overall, nothing but love for JJ. Obviously there's things he doesn't like and I have no issues with him. Nothing but love at the end. That is a gift man. It's a gift if what you like is shit sandwiches because he said nothing but love no issues except for yeah I he's I'm the reason for all of his success and he didn't he wasn't effective in the playoffs so I benched him and he wasn't very good. The coach for his best season you're looking at him. That's right, I'm the reason for his success. It is the shittiest version of Brady versus Belichick.

I'm the reason you won. No, I'm the reason. And nobody is really, no one cares but them. Well, but they care though. The Doc at the end, like that is God Almighty Doc. So insincere. But lovable Fragile and if you don't like accountability and you like fraudulent. Yeah lovable my guy

Yeah, it's easy to trick the media is my point. It's where I started stooge. I know it the media isn't it the meat We're idiots. We won the media game. We look Look, look at what did that DraftKings segment. We won the media game. Do you know how easy it is to win the media game? It's filled with idiots. I texted my friend Hannah and said, hey, do you wanna make picks for us?

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Oh. No. Your astrophysicist friend and her gambling knowledge, so I can get rid of all these clowns who are polluting our contract here at DraftKings, because we might not keep winning They're not clowns. They were masked. We might not keep winning the media game this year We haven't run your winning streak though. I mean we we're in danger

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