The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 2: That's What Life Is About

Episode Date: February 29, 2024

We kick things off with a Thursday Thunder including Steph Curry, Bam Adebayo, and Jimmy Butler before Mike explains why the NCAA ending may not be the good thing we think it is. Then, Tyrone Jones went viral for his recent appearance on The Price Is Right and joins our show to share his joy and play a new game with us. Plus, Liam Gallegher and Mariah Carey, Jeremy issues an apology to Tony, a new theory on badaeup, and "new media." Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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an evolving media. But the answer to Mike's question from before on why I would get lumped in with old media is because I'm 55 years old. And how do I keep up with the young bucks in a difficult game when the gambling money is involved? I give you Thursday Thunder. I was told, I was told by Draft Kings through intermediaries because I tried to have them not talk to me because I deeply, deeply want to be left alone, that our last Thursday thunder

lacked information and enthusiasm. I thought that's the joke we were doing. I was informed. It also hit, by the way. No? But it hit? Look, I was embarrassed yesterday by the general lack of enthusiasm around here like people weren't even doing Like they nobody was trying. I know it's a different segment, but I'm saying when we are not very cleverly disguising

Programming that has a lack of interest in it and then the pics are not creative or enthusiastic and it goes And that's all we've got I thought that's the joke we were going for I was told DraftKings want something more serious So morsels of information as to why we are picking this Thursday thunder Soon as I find out what it is all right Well the last Thursday thunder did come in and juJu picked it and he was three for three It was a three leg parlay. JuJu has done this correctly. JuJu No one's JuJu has won a couple of these and he's pouring in thought and research into them Thursday Thunder is sponsored by DraftKings. Stay tuned because you'll hear more about DraftKings and all it has to offer throughout the show

DraftKings the crown is yours But this is different. Juju is the one who picked this Thursday Thunders. Okay, but what I'm saying is against the spread, my point is, look, if I'm gonna get repp- We got it, totally different segment. They're the same! No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, against the spread. This is a parlay. This is Thursday. It's on Thursday. It's a parlay. It's a parlay.

And there's a double header on TNT tonight. Our friend Stan Van Gundy called that first game with the Warriors at the Knicks in New York. That should be a really fun game between two teams that are playing pretty well. Steph always plays well in the garden too. Yeah, and the Knicks, they haven't been playing well as of late. So the first leg of our parlay, Steph Curry over 26 and a half points tonight. The marking player,

Lock-up the Mecca, Come on, National TV game. Yeah, no, this is where the stars shine. And I'm gonna make it abundantly clear guys, I did not make these picks, I am not gambling here. NBA, I am not the one doing this. We have the Heat at the Nuggets tonight in Denver.

And this should be a great one. Look, it's a rematch of the 2023 NBA finals. You're not going to be a homer here. Are you not enough people? I'm not making these picks, Dan. I can't be a homer here. Potential finals. I'm not making these picks. You're not going to frame it again. I am not gambling. Jimmy Butler, over 19 and a half points

It's that time it is that time. It's that time of year. You know what time it is It is time for Thursday Thunder. It's a time. No, no, no, it's the time when Jimmy Butler cares about basketball different revenge on his mind ball out boy And the last leg Fam at a bio over two and a half assists. Oh, not enough people talking about it. He's back. Yeah, I saw that Kendrick Perkins is saying

that Sabonis is MVP worthy conversation. I'm like, did you not just watch him play against BAM? Did you not just watch what that looked like? The disrespect for Bama DeBio is helpable. I just don't think we know how to measure defense is all. So bonus is really good though to be fair. He is. But we have no idea how to measure defense.

Right. But with the bam as you know is the question of the post season. And which he was the leading scorer outside of Yoko to the NBA finals. Are you gonna have that dog in you? Literally. He does.

Or are you gonna try to go through the motions and make me convince that you have that dog in you. He did it all last year. I hold on a second. Just I don't want to have another band on a bio conversation. There's plenty of time. It's not time for that.

Whatever Jimmy Butler say. It's not that time. It's not that can be too much for now. I don't want to do it again. And I want shock collars on culture. I do. I want some. I want people to get zapped whenever that.

That might lower the team morale part of our report. It also says culture, culture, culture on our teas for the show on DKN now. Gas baggeries made an appearance. I told them I didn't like that and I told them to take it down. I'm feuding with DraftKings old media. So, uh, yeah. Well, this is what's happening when I want to talk about new media because one of the ways that new media has made an appearance around here is that Mike Ryan has turned himself into a new hybrid business booster, not a journalist, but giving you journalists information that has been right, both in soccer and on college football. And I don't think people are noticing enough because people don't totally understand the business of some of what happens around the NCAA, that the thing is crumbling so fast now that I'm not sure that people

are understanding the macro consequences of what's happening in these weeks. I spoke to some people in and around the lawsuit in Tennessee and rightfully, everyone's celebrating. We took down the boogeyman and there's a great deal of grave dancing going on right there. And my word of warning to these collectives is maybe give the NCAA a couple of wins here because we don't have a plan in place. And we explored that a couple of days ago as it pertained to non-revenue sports, the NCAA is presently the governing body that is keeping those things going. And if

the NCAA dies because no one has respect for its rules, what is to become of the non-revenue sports without a governing body? At the very least it gets suspended for a while. Now, a lot of non-revenue sports in college athletics, a lot of them are women's sports. Title nine offers some protections and guarantees, but what if this ruling still has to take title nine into account? What does that mean? How does it get interpreted? What if it no longer becomes the interpretation of you have to have an equal number of sports

for women's as you do men. Now with this NIL ruling, you have to give the same amount of NIL to women's sports. Watch how quickly that undoes the sport. And the way that I think it undoes it is you have these schools realize they can't be in this game anymore because there is no way we're gonna give the women the same amount of money as we give big-time college football, right? That's not even going to be a consideration. And Notre Dame's athletic director has actually hinted at this. I think you know how you've said this is not really, it's

shame at your rhythm. It's minor league sports posing as minor league sports when it's really professional, full on licensing of these brands because they have so much brand equity. Notre Dame Fighting Irish gets licensed out to an entity. And if you've seen the landscape of sports, you may not like the entities that creep into college athletics may not like the entities that creep into college athletics or at least the branding that you recognize with college athletics. So my word of warning is you got to give this governing body some wins along the line because I don't think the administrators from the ones that I've spoken to are really prepared for

how far this can unwind and how quickly it can happen. There aren't a lot of forward-thinking people in sports administration in this country, especially in college athletics. They are not prepared for a governing body to just disappear. They are not at all. Are you ready for Notre Dame fighting Irish football brought to you by Saudi Arabia. It can happen. And maybe I'm sounding like an alarmist. Maybe I'm the scientist in Independence Day, warning you of an impending doom.

But this thing can really unravel. And as we've seen in this country over the last few months recently, if you're going to open certain laws up to interpretation, including Title IX, this can go away that you're not fully prepared for. Remember that capitalism conversation we were having yesterday, Dan? Yeah. Well, I mean, okay.

It's all ruined. About Wendy's? It's ruined everything. Yeah, we were having it about price gouging. Yep. We just welcome money. No matter what it is. Any corporation.

You mentioned free market capitalism. Right now, the shadowy governing body, especially in football, is the CFP, which is kind of put in place by the television networks. All right, so say March Madness is a big revenue generator. Who owns the rights to that? Turner, you're the governing body, because you have this one event

that kind of organizes the entire sport. What does that mean when rights go up? If they're in charge? I think ESPN, like it's a very confusing deal with the CFP and their rights coming up and is this a true free market for this considering how invested ESPN is in the sport. It's in the immortal words of Jose Canseco. And this doesn't just open up a can of worms, it opens up a can of anacondas. Whoa. The immortal words of Jose Canseco. They'll never die. That is anarchy and you've been rooting, I've been rooting for the NCAA collapse for a long time, but it is one of the great luxuries of the critic to be able to criticize when you don't have a solution in place

My anaconda don't my anaconda don't my anaconda don't want no unless you got bones on Feel like he was getting somewhere poignant. Yeah, he's right about that by the way Chris Cody What you just did is you just heard the word anaconda searched it on the computer job No head on a swivel, but he was going somewhere It was clapping out That should be your governor sure Governor. Sure. Sure. That's a good idea for you. Hey folks, it's Mike Ryan. Now, you've had the distinct privilege of knowing me for close 18 years and you know that I've changed. A lot of my personal life has changed. I've

changed as a professional. I am a parent now. My level of involvement in my favorite college football program has also changed. But one thing that hasn't changed for me is my favorite beer. You know when it's real with me I think you do anyways, and you know how much I love Miller light. I've loved it forever really It's my favorite beer of all time and it made all the great moments in my life all that much better And when Miller light came aboard on our show I was super stoked about it because I believed in the product. Because every time I take a sip of Miller Lite, I look around and I think yeah, this was the right call. Times change. People like me can change. But you can always enjoy the great taste of Miller Lite. Tastes like Miller Time. To get Miller Lite delivered

right to your door, visit MillerLite.com slash Dan. We can try to find it pretty much anywhere that sells beer. Celebrate responsibly Miller Brewing Company, Milwaukee, Wisconsin, 96 Galleries, per 12 ounces. Don Lebatard! I miss crank windows. Too many unnecessary conveniences now. Cruise control, please. I've got cruise control built in.

It's called my right foot. It controls how fast the car goes. No button or steering wheel lever needed. Power steering. There's another one. Why don't I want to give my power to the car goes. No button or steering wheel lever needed. Power steering. There's another one. Why don't I want to give my power to the car? The power that I once had. The car is a ton of metal. I'm a damn college graduate. Stugots. Bluetooth, HD radios, satellite. I'll take AM please with Wolfman Jack talking through the static and I'll crank the windows down so everybody can hear I'm Greg Cody and that's how I walk back in my day this is the Don Lebatar show with the Stugas

I'm excited about this we told you about this yesterday I believe it's the greatest set of spins in the history of the prices right. I don't believe you. I don't believe you can do better than these three spins. Tyrone Jones is the master of this, but let's introduce him in the way he's used to being introduced. Let's introduce him the way that the price is right would introduce him. and Tyrone Jones. Come on down. All right, he is a, yes. You are the first four contestants on the price is right to vote.

This back row was hard. Yes. Thank you Tyrone for joining us. Let's play the set of, Mike hasn't seen this. The rest of you saw this yesterday, but Mike hasn't seen this. These are the three greatest spins in the history of this. He's gotta beat a 90 and a 95.

He's gotta get to a full dollar. The two people in front of him have 90 and 95. These are the three greatest spins. Ha ha! You wanna say hi? My man, my brothers, my sisters, my nieces, my nephews, and all my friends I met today on the way here. Thank you.

Thank you. Oh man. Oh. Just to taunt you. Oh Man Just to taunt you Five or ten Five or ten I got to be here regardless of what I'm good So that's as good as that can get it's not gonna get any better than that that's the best it's gonna be right No, of course not he gets another spin after that

We're gonna go through this with him, but he somehow gets another spin after that you only get one I'm sure you would have been satisfied with just this, correct? You would have been thrilled if this had been the end of your day. Oh, yes, of course. I was just happy to be there. I really was. I really was. All right.

To turn up the rest of this, you got a thousand bucks. You're on your way to the showcase. Now you get an extra chance to take money from us. One spin, five or 15, gets you $10,000. Bucks you're on your way to the showcase now you get an extra chance to take money from us one spin 515 gets you $10,000 dollar gets you $25,000 Yeah, somebody's got a 95 and 90 and then a dollar. 25,000! 25,000! Oh, man. Uh, I'm so explain it. Take us through it there. It didn't even look like you wanted to look at the last spin.

You were already euphoric, right? Anything at that point is bonus. You're not expecting any of that. I never would have thought that would happen, you know. Of course, like you're not expecting anything. I'm not expecting anything. I'm not expecting anything. I'm not expecting anything. You're not expecting any of that. I never would have thought that would happen.

You know, of course, like you said, with the 95, you like, oh my God, but if you look, I mouth to my wife in the crowd, I said, I still can get a dollar. You know, who I'm like, I still can, it still can happen. And next, you know, you know, I hit the dollar. So I was totally excited, but that 25,000 that really blew my mind. Like, but if you look closely before I spent the second spin, I looked up and I

said a prayer. I asked my granny and I asked God, I was like, come on, let's, you know, and I flunk it again and it happened. It worked out. What take us through what you're feeling as you watch it again there? Because it seems like, I don't know, I mean, imagine your life has changed some

in the last couple of days. It's just, I'm really, I've been going through a lot the last couple months. You know, I lost a cousin, a grandmother, my mom's going through health problems right now. So to just go there and meet all the people before and make new friends and get the life and the energy I needed that. It didn't matter if I won or not, just to go there and experience it because I used to watch it with my grandmother. That's who I had on my shirts.

And we used to watch prices right. So just to go there and get there, I just needed that day. So it was just great. It was great. And to watch it over and over and all the blogs and to read all the comments of how people said I touched their life and I made their day better

and I made them smile and they cried with me. You know, that's the win, that's the win right there. And it's continued to go and it's infectious and I love the reciprocation that I'm getting from people because to make people feel good, that's what life is about. We so detached from reality right now, we barely have a conversation with people because to make people feel good, that's what life is about.

We saw detacts from reality right now. We barely have a conversation with people and just to say hello to somebody or speak to somebody can make things better for that person just for that moment. So just to be there is just great for me. It felt like a prayerful spiritual moment to you, I guess, connected, right? I mean, you're feeling,

Right. I mean, you're feeling, yeah, you're feeling connected to something divine when you're asking for a prayer you need help and that's the answer. Right, right. And it was great. You know, faith, God, whatever your religion,

whatever your belief may be, whatever you believe in, a higher power is real and you can feel it. And I want to thank everybody. I really do. You know, everybody just been coming to my page, showing me love and sharing their stories with me about their childhood, their experience with their grandparents or their family watching prices right.

And it's just been overwhelming. I just love it. I have been told here by the shipping container that they brought a handful of items here you're to guess what these items cost and I'm to guess who brought them in they bring them in for the whole year. I mean Dan you're hosting I thought I was hosting but here we go welcome to our version of the prices right. Woo! Alright Tyrone we're gonna give you an item I'm gonna tell you a little about it

then you gotta guess the price without going over. And then Dan, you have to guess who in the shipping container brought it in. This first item, it's a used skateboard. This micro user, this micro cruiser is designed for beginners aged 3 to 5. With a concave design, a tapered shape, and a round kick tail. That guaranteed a versatile performance. Make other kids around the block jealous with this rude boy skateboard. Tyrone, what's your guess?

Ooh, 750. That's the ding that he guessed, and the answer, you are? I just realized this is a really easy game for him because he just has to guess, he just doesn't have to go over He's not competing with anyone. That's correct. It is the $25 You're a winner Who brought in the skateboard real game what you all have girls and I don't know I'm gonna guess this is Chris Cody. It is not it is Roy. I mean that's what it says in my sheet. You were hiding. Who says this?

It's mine it's just not used I don't know why it's there. Are you gonna use it later? If I give it to you. Alright number two Dan we, Dan. We have some a brand new bottle up, Tynactin. Really? Are you showering without flip flops at the gym again? Have your see-through baseball pants been giving you Jock-Itch, ringworm? You want medicine that acts tough? Boom!

Tough-actin, Tynactin. Tyrone, what is your guess? It's yours? It's a... Oh, brand new, brand guess? It's yours! It's a- Oh, brand new! Brand new! It's in a bag. Look, I'm gonna guess- Is it brand new?

No, it's a good question you're asking, because I think it's purporting to be brand new. I think we're asking you for a price at brand new, but I'm pretty sure Mike Ryan brought this in from his shower, or his medicine cabinet. I don't think it's brand new but it's supposed to be. Oh, you think that's mine? It's out back. It's out back to enacting Tim Bucks. You got it right again! The price is $13! That's more expensive.

Now Mike, I mean, oh shit, Dan, who's is it? Oh, wow. my parents Mike's it is my tough action tonight just took it out of his game please give it back who's one thing this guy right here in the red hat he's disgusting I bought it in bulk I actually got a better deal that price is wrong Tyrone you were saying we interrupted you as you were gonna roast Mike It is getting better Our next item it's a pinwheel cap

Alright our our our next item. It's a pinwheel cab This stylish dad hat blends comfort style and a rainbow colors with a skull a scalp full of whimsy Spin that propeller at your oh god, whatever. It's a hat with a propeller on it. All right. What's your guess Tyrone? digs 75 He's good at this game, folks. It is $15. No, that's not good at the game. He's terrible at the game. No, he's great.

He's great, Dan. Whose hat is it, Dan? What? Wait, go ahead. I'm actually, I'm just trying not to go over, right? Yes, that's all you're doing. You're three for three, you're crushing it. You could win this game by going 10 cents each time.

We didn't really think that part out. $1. This is Jeremy. Tony would never wear such a thing that is my hat Yes, we have time for one more we do we're gonna do one more and then it's a garment bag It's a delightful garment bag Are you sick and tired of changing out of that uncomfortable wrestling costume into same old rumpled brown shirt blah blah blah? It's a garment bag

Tyrone what's your guess? 30 bucks 30 bucks is the guess. Let's see if he's correct $46 Whose bag is that it's Tony's bag it is Roy's bag Uh, Dan, whose bag is that? It's Tony's bag. It is Roy's bag! Oh my god. Wait, no, no, no!

I have two items! Oh, true question. What happened to my item? Yeah, where's my- Where's my- Cut for time. You guys fooled me. You guys tricked me.

Tyrone, it was fun to watch, has your life changed much over the last couple of days? Are you feeling extra special and connected to good things? I really am, you know. I just feel good, like I said. I'm filled up with all the love and the energy from everybody,

and I just, I like it, and I appreciate it, because I'm a happy person, I feed off of life and good energy, so I just, it's like a total refresh in for the year. Congratulations, it was fun to watch, I hope they don't know. So what else can leave you feeling totally refreshed? Wow.

Boom, boom, tough act into next. I'm good into next. Tough act into next. Thank you. Thank you, Tyrone. Thank you, Tyrone. It's the money for that, man. Tyrone, you got an open invite to the Tony show.

Anytime you want to come on, by the way, just let you know. Present it by boom, tough act into next. I would love to hang out with you guys. You guys are cool. Y'all got good energy, man. I would love to come there. All right, we're wrapped, man. That's great. Thank you so much, man.

Thanks, sir. All right, thank you. Made our day. I appreciate you guys. All right, you too. They dope. That shit was on TV. It's winter, and you can get anything you need

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Don Libertard. Off-handed to me and Chris before we started playing, he's like, seems like that Tony guy gets triggered pretty easily. And I laughed the hardest out loud I've ever laughed in my life. Two guts. He's starting to get...

He's triggered pretty easily. That guy. That's so ridiculous. He's triggered! It's the most incredible thing. It's crazy. It's crazy. People, Tony, don't realize.

Know yourself. People love putting their athletic insecurities on me. Don't project that shit on me. You suck. Not my problem. Chris Cody leaves the game early. Oh, let's support Chris Cody. Whatever the f*** Billy does, let's support that.

My mind, let's go to Buffalo. Oh, let's go to Buffalo. Like, give me a kiss. You look wonderful. You see. Tony, you totally proved that you weren't at all unhinged. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

This is the Don Lebatar Show with the Stugat. Tough actin' to knackin'. Boom! It won the segment. I mean, you didn't even try. You didn't even try. You brought in... The smiles across people's faces.

Is that something that you can manufacture when you bring out the tough act into Nackton? Many people hadn't thought about tough act into Nackton in 20 years. That's a winner. That segment, by the way, works because of that good man's charisma and he's a good story and my tough act into Nackton. Yeah, and he's a good story and my tough act and tenac and mostly him though Elon Musk has written on X Put quote never went to therapy on my gravestone Don't you love it when people wielding that kind of power are proudly not

introspective by the way is X formerly known as Twitter you guys see formerly known as Twitter every time you see X By the way, that's what everybody else does you didn't say at the it's X, formerly known as Twitter. You gotta see, formerly known as Twitter every time you see X, by the way. That's what everybody else does. You didn't say it the second time. The artist formerly known as Twitter. Draymond Green was talking about this the other day, that he had to be talked into it a thousand times as if therapy is a source of shame, as if needing some help to give someone you trust some vulnerability so they can give you some tools to better understand yourself and how your patterns make you interact poorly with others. to give someone you trust some vulnerability so they can give you some tools to better understand yourself and how your patterns make you interact poorly with others.

Like therapy as a weakness is interesting. The conservative market correction is wild to be old. No, we're not gonna take you back to like, 2020, 10. We're gonna take you back to the 1950s. Also, like they just like really want us to make children in the worst way possible. Yet in some states like suspend IVF it's confusing. Liam Gallagher keeping things slightly lighter. Have you seen how it is?

Tony, do you know, wait a minute, Jeremy and Tony might be too old. Oasis, different time. A rock star behaving like a rock star and he and his brother, Is that any way brother hears Wonderwall? Yes. That's where that comes from. That's what I know.

That's all I know. Okay. So Liam Gallagher says, this is rock star from the rock star age. We don't make these people anymore says of Mariah Carey being inducted into the rock and roll hall of fame. Her being nominated. Why are you smiling, Mike? Because Liam Gallagher makes me smile.

The quote is, do me a favor and f*** off. Whoa! So hold on, tell me more about this guy. I went to a Liam Gallagher set, he played three songs and told the audience to f*** off, and I was so happy with it. I'm like, that's what I came here for two guys on the screen Which will which one is he?

Liam's one on the right and those one on the left they famously fought their story is great They're just totally out of control and and it's they hate each other They they there's they yeah, there's so much money They're available for them for an oasis reunion, but they just can't get along and he says that of Mariah Carey Well, Paul McCartney says this farmer not in the Hall of Fame That caught on yesterday for no should absolutely be in the Hall of Fame. Yeah, it's got so many jams Yes, it's crazy if you go back and celebrate their catalog as I do Religiously every three months to just go to foreign or foreigners central's amazing.

What the f***? So is the hall of fame for rock and roll kind of like the basketball hall of fame or like the baseball hall of fame? What would you categorize it? Cause obviously the basketball hall of fame kind of anybody gets it. But if foreigners not in the rock and roll hall of fame, it's too hard to get into. The classes used to be more difficult, I think is what it is because rock and roll right has changed over the years.

Mariah Carey is nominated for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in her age demographic of now 25 years of music, cause that's, that's sort of the standing is 25 years after your first record. You have to be able to kind of qualify within that group. And so foreigner didn't necessarily sit at the top. They're sort of a Fred McGriff, you could say. Not in a whole lot of fame. You say that, and then look,

Tony's usually a good gauge for these kind of things because Fornner, you don't know them really. But if I- Not in a whole lot of fame. If I sing, you're as cold as ice. I know that one. There you go. I've been waiting for a girl like you. That's all for her They've got a ton of them. Yeah

Feels like the first time. Oh wow. Yep. I didn't know I'm blotted. Oh, I hear that I want to fuck Dude, he got me so Box hero They've got so many songs five bangers I just heard that is correct and they they've got more. I wanted to ask you guys a question about Tom Brady running. They just have video of him running a 40 faster at 46 years old than he did coming out of Michigan at the combine when he was 20, 22. That's ridiculous.

It was like super imposed, right? So like the video, you can see him clearly getting past his 20 year old self. That's crazy. That's talking about the TB 12 method. It's because no night shades. He's got those open hips right now where he is just slam. It's because his dad wasn't a professional athlete. That's why he didn't do it. I'd like to issue a public apology to Tony for that one,

because I think Tony may have been right. He talked about his basketball skill. He said that if he had LeBron James as a dad that he would be Gary Harris and honestly and I mean this very seriously If I had like Roger Clemens as a dad, I'd be Jesus, Lazardo. Oh, come on. What do you mean? What are you apologizing for? I was right. He was right. No, you know what the training regimen for a great athlete It's it takes you to the next level and and look I'm not disputing, what are you guys talking about? I am not disputing that to have LeBron's trainers as an average person would make you better.

But not average, a good player at a high school level, would you get those kind of access to people that are playing at a pro level and a regiment that is at a pro level watching film, doing work on it? You will get better faster and then you will get buzz sawed in whatever it is that the G League is like no I'm like totally buzz sawed you're I think you're wrong respectfully Dan you're wrong yeah respectfully Dan I'd be an ace in Major League Baseball if I had had Roger Clemens down and you should

listen to Tony because Tony opened our eyes back here to something we had never considered and it makes me seem in a totally different light as it pertains to the Badaip. So when Greg did the He-Ha 3 Badaip, and we're probably going to get some audio over it now, I thought probably for whatever reason, as the computer's buffering, I thought for whatever reason when he did the he ha three bad app but I thought Bada up was a shortened version for batter up. So like the next bad that came up. So I was bad up the next guy on deck is coming in because the other guy just got cranked out on a strike out. It's acting. He got what he actually it's actually a not that though.

My dad is just weird. Yeah, that's got what he actually, it's actually not that though. My dad is just weird. Yeah. That's correct. And if it was on the, cause that makes so much sense. No, but also what makes sense is that his dad is super weird. I did want to talk to Jeremy and Mike specifically about what they were saying about new media versus old media because it's all changing now that landscape is all changing. And one of the things that Mike was talking about is that Bill Simmons might be old media to Pat McAfee, but Bill Simmons is a digital pioneer. Like just like Pat McAfee is a digital pioneer.

The whole atmosphere around all of this stuff is changing and I do understand why anybody would be threatened by athletes coming into the workspace and trying to wrestle away with their competitiveness, especially about people clinging to journalism, people like clinging to their precious journalism. I understand why it is that McAfee and others want to kick down the doors on ESPN now that they see that the amount of money that's involved. And I also understand why old media would be threatened by that. It's a perfectly reasonable thing to be threatened by. It just feels like there's a misconception of what journalism is, which aspires to objectivity. And I think one of the underlying issues with athlete-led journalism air quotes, this whole new media thing, is you get a very clearly biased account of things

and because it's their truth, it gets conflated with the truth. And if you don't have someone to check one side of it that is objective, then that's not actual journalism. And I know how that lands with a good amount of the audience. Who cares is how it lands? Who cares whether it's actual journalism or not? I just heard Chris Paul tell Dwyane Way that the only reason he wasn't traded to Miami is because they couldn't agree on who would wear number three.

That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Fabricated. I think that that's a perfect example of why you what that segment was missing between the two because yes the relationship between the two gives you a nugget that you would never heard before and we were talking before the show Jeremy conspicuous by his absence in that conversation is when does this timeline occur why aren't we mentioning Chris Bosch is he in that package when does this happen and I think that's where you could really

benefit from an objective journalist type to be like, hold on, you guys have grins on your faces right now as you're talking about this. Are you josh and me right now? Is this serious? When did this happen? How did this land with Chris Bosch? Was he in the deal? But no, because you get a certain aspect of the truth and you don't get the follow-ups. Now athletes are totally capable of the follow-ups, but there is an objective prism that I'm dying as a consumer of these things to be applied there that is missing in part because that is the construct. You don't get two in there. You get a version of the truth, maybe not the complete truth.

That's where when you get referred to in the McAfee clip as sort of old media as opposed to new media. Or positioned as such. Right, sorry, positioned as such. It's not necessarily because of the actual style of media, because what we're doing right now is all digital. This is all a new media landscape in the way that this show interacts with the internet and consumers.

Yet, by being positioned as old media, it's really just because you stem from journalism, right? You stem from a world where you're asking follow-up questions, tougher questions, trying to get to some version of the truth. And in that entire episode, you have McAfee discussing Aaron Rodgers, for example, and saying that whatee discussing Aaron Rodgers, for example, and saying

that what he did with Rodgers is a form of journalism because you're hearing Aaron Rodgers' truth. Which could be where you got lumped into, you know, as Pat put it, talking shit about him. I think on the balance of things, we've been 99.9% positive when it comes to Pat. Well, I know one of the things that happened here. But the Rodgers stuff might have landed on the wrong side of things, we've been 99.9% positive. Well, I know one of the things that happens, but the Roger stuff might have landed on the wrong side of things with him.

Uh, yeah. One of the things that I think happened here is Lucy was down on him on game day and I was following her conversation on talking about it. Seems like Pat is re responding sensitively to things. I understand why he would be sensitive. There are a whole lot of people that he couldn't told told him. He couldn't do it his way that way. And then he gets to ESPN and runs into what was their previous corporate infrastructure that was how journalists got run by a production company. And he buzzed

saw the top of that because he's coming in with his own ownership. He says on all the smoke, he says, I don't have mother f*****g bosses because he doesn't. Because unless you're talking about Petaro, he made a deal at the top of Disney to rent his product to them because the whole game has changed. Like it's flipped over. Everything is different now. No, he shifted to paradigm. No doubt.

Yeah. And you get huge amounts of massive amounts of credit for shifting a paradigm. No doubt. And you get huge amounts of credit for shifting a paradigm. Mike's right in terms of journalism sort of changing in the way that athletes are capable of asking these follow up questions. We've seen athlete after athlete be a part of ESPN for so many years where they sort of came to the middle on journalism principles where the journalists had to come down to the entertainment side. But now what you're seeing is, hey, let's just josh around

and not really have any follow-up conversations. Joshing around, Rick. No. Part of the argument was that if they do a documentary on Aaron Rodgers, the access that I'm affording America to, that's gonna be in the documentary. Is it the documentary produced by Aaron Rodgers, probably?

Is that not journalism? And some might say Probably is that not journalism and some might say no not actually but you know I will tell you it's subjective That's that all of us having more access to more information serves everybody And I will also tell you that Matt Barnes and Steven Jackson and Shannon Sharpe will all get better at Interviewing they will make mistakes and they will get better at checking people as they learn how to do this part of their jobs better. But they're gonna learn faster because there's a lot of money in this game and they've all seen now they can compete for it. Look at what happens to Shaq's podcast. He's paying attention again and he started at the advent of media. Hey folks, it's Mike Ryan.

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