The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 2: The 10 AM Ludacris Concert (feat. Jessica Smetana)

Episode Date: September 24, 2025

"I save my beef until like Week 10, and then I get really beefy." Jess joins us to discuss some of the headlines around college football heading into Week 5, including Mike Gundy's firing and John ...Mateer's injury. Plus, Tony has a massive scheduling conflict that could get in the way of the Witching Hour, Chris is becoming everything he ever made fun of, and Dan has a brutal Ashton Jeanty stat. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:41 Tony, go ahead Thank you Roy We're starting off in Thursday night football We've got Seahawks traveling over to the Arizona Cardinals and Cardinals are not that good Seahawks surprisingly good Dan That's a team that when I was asking Diana I thought she was going to mention the Seahawks yesterday
Starting point is 00:01:57 saying that's a team that nobody's really talking about. The Seahawks are an interesting team. Sam Darno playing well, Jackson Smith and Jigba, Y Receiver One, playing awesome. Okay, defense playing tough. I know they haven't really played nobody, but this is their first division game. And the Cardinals, we all know, suck. Suck. So much so, Seahawks are a point and a half favorite against the Arizona Cardinals and the Big Toaster.
Starting point is 00:02:22 Okay? We're going to go Seahawks minus one and a half. Against the Cardinals. Sam Darnold. Over two touchdowns, by the way. Block that in. That was against us fun. I'm going with Virginia.
Starting point is 00:02:37 That was pretty good right there. I'm surprised you weren't distracted. Why don't you do it back to him? I'm going with Virginia. I like the Hoos. That offense can move the ball. They had one game where they had 700 yards of offense. I'm a big fan of Chandler Morris.
Starting point is 00:02:49 From TCU to North Texas. And now to Hooville. I think there's a scary night game for FSU. They may win, but it's going to be one of those shootout type of games. Nothing is given in the ICC. Everything is earned. I like the who's plus seven and a half. Oh, against those spreading.
Starting point is 00:03:03 Oh, it can't so spread. You are the biggest national proponent of Virginia football that I have heard this century. Wow. Wow, you haven't heard that their offense can light it up? You have been very big on Virginia football, and I don't hear a lot of people saying what you're saying about Virginia football. Perhaps Jessica will say some of the same. Mike Gundy, I've been telling you that for the last two years,
Starting point is 00:03:27 Gundy has been in charge of what seems like the worst big football program in America. He has been fired, and while many of you cite his I'm a man, I'm 40 speech, I think he had one to rival it. So we're going to play both of them here. Let's play both sounds, but play whichever one you want first, Roy, whether it's I'm a man, I'm 40, or whether what I believe to be just as bad a press conference that Mike Cundee gave. So I looked it up on my phone. What would be the legal limit? Oklahoma is 0.08 and Ollie was 0.1. So I looked it up and it was based on body weight, not to get into the legal side of it, but I thought really two or three beers or four. I'm not justifying what Ollie did. I'm telling you what decision I made. Well, I thought I've probably done that a thousand times in my life.
Starting point is 00:04:22 That sounds like justifying it and getting into the legal part. of it. He wasn't going to do either one. He doesn't want to do the legal part then. He ended up doing both. That's 4,000 beers. And let's play his other more famous press conference, the one that will be his entire career's remembrance, even though he occasionally won 10
Starting point is 00:04:39 games, none of which you remember. If your child goes down the street and somebody makes fun of him because he dropped a pass in a pickup game or says he's fat and he comes home crying to his mom,
Starting point is 00:04:55 you'd understand. But you haven't had that. But someday you will. And when your child comes home, you'll understand. If you want to go after an athlete, one of my athletes, you go after one that doesn't do the right things. You don't downgrade him because he does everything right and may not play as well on Saturday.
Starting point is 00:05:18 And you let us make that decision. That's why I don't read the newspaper. Because it's garbage. And the editor that let it come out is garbage. Attacking an amateur athlete for doing everything right. And then you want to write articles about guys that don't do things right and downgrade them, the ones that do make plays. Are you kidding me?
Starting point is 00:05:42 Where are we at in society today? Come after me. I'm a man. I'm 40. Welcome, Jessica. What were your thoughts on Mike Gundy? being fired it was about it was a couple of games late he was a lot more entertaining when Oklahoma State was good than it's been the last couple years but I wouldn't even say it was a
Starting point is 00:06:06 couple of games late Dan well I guess I would say that it was like four games late I don't really understand why they did this now on a Tuesday during a game week and not last year when he agreed to restructure his deal and clean house of coaches like it just seemed like the writing was on the wall last year. They went winless in the Big 12, and I really don't understand the timing of all of this. It kind of reeks of dysfunction. Well, they just lost to Tulsa, and then before that, the week, but they lost the Tulsa at home. They got blown out by Tulsa at home, and they lost the week before. Who'd they lose to the week before? Because they lost another game where they weren't, they're not competitive. They got destroyed by Oregon in embarrassing fashion. And it was after Mike Gundy
Starting point is 00:06:46 made comments about NIL, which has been sort of the issue, the last few seasons, that Oklahoma State has not been competitive in NIL. But yes, Dan, like the Tulsa game was actually a close game, which is almost worse that, like, yeah, you almost could have beaten Tulsa. Those schools are very close to one another. But, yeah, it just, I just don't really, they got blown out so many times last year. Like, I really just don't understand why do it on a Tuesday when you play it on Friday. And now you have a game on Saturday, your offensive coordinator is taking over as the interim
Starting point is 00:07:15 head coach. It's very strange. Zazlo, are you going to be at Georgia, Alabama this weekend? Yeah, I'm in Athens this weekend. and I'm very excited, actually. That's going to be awesome. Jessica, do you know what? Do you feel like you know what Alabama is?
Starting point is 00:07:27 I don't feel like I know what any team is yet. I do know that I'm more skeptical on Virginia's offense than Mike is. I will say the caliber of defense Virginia has played so far this season. And yes, Mike, they have put up a lot of points against William and Mary in Coastal Carolina. But Florida State's defense right now and DFEI is top 40 versus NC State, which is the next best defense that Virginia's played this season, ranking somewhere around 77 at the moment. And Virginia was able to score 31 points on them.
Starting point is 00:07:59 But I'm a little bit more skeptical. They're able to do quite as much damage against Florida State. But remains to be seen. Maybe you'll be right. So Alabama last year beat Georgia. It was an awesome game in Tuscalo. That was like the last time we felt good, or Alabama fans felt good about Kail and DeBore
Starting point is 00:08:13 because the very next week they lost to Vanderbilt. if they win in Athens this weekend, Jess, what do you think the conversation starts to sound like around the Alabama head coach? Honestly, I think that it will be a lot of Georgia's not that good. I mean, like we already saw Georgia down to the wire with Tennessee last weekend. I also think that if you go back to last year,
Starting point is 00:08:36 look, Jalen Milro won my September Heisman last year. He is an electric college football player. But even the second half against Georgia last year, Alabama let them all the way back into the game, and it took heroics from Ryan Williams and Milrow to ultimately win that game. So there was a lot of skepticism, I think, that Alabama was ready in the first half. They did a lot of, like, scripted stuff well. They had a really good game plan. But then when Georgia was able to overcome some of their issues offensively, Alabama didn't have a great response to that.
Starting point is 00:09:06 So I do think Alabama has a long way to go before the Kalin-Dabor doubters are proven wrong. Georgia's a small favorite at home. Kirby Smart has beaten Alabama. One time? Not a lot. Has he beaten? What is he against Alabama? I think one in four maybe or something like that.
Starting point is 00:09:26 I think it might be like one in the regular season. I think he's been pretty bad against Alabama. And I'm not remembering the victory off the top of my head. But it's also Sabin. Yeah. The window's open now, Dan. Sabin was Kirby's foil to a lot of people's minds. So there's really no excuse now.
Starting point is 00:09:47 So Milrow won your September Heisman last year. Who's winning your September Heisman this year? And could it be John Mateer who just broke his hand and left OU in a pretty tough situation? It's actually Diego Pavia. He's still the front runner for the September Heisman. But yeah, John Mateer's injury is not a good one, obviously. It seems like he could be back by the start of November. It really is a bummer for the Red River Showdown, Shootout, whatever we call it now.
Starting point is 00:10:15 because those are two teams that I would have loved to see play each other at full strength. That's Texas and Oklahoma. So if he does come back and Oklahoma can sort of keep it together over the next few games, I think, you know, their defense is really going to have to step up and make things miserable for South Carolina's offense. South Carolina's offensive line has already struggled this season. And we saw Oklahoma's defense, like, really attack Auburn's quarterback last weekend. So they're going to have to really have some standout defensive performances, which of course is like that's Brent Venable's baby. I think that they're up to the task.
Starting point is 00:10:50 But the other issue for Oklahoma's offense so far this season has been like inconsistency in the run game. And it's difficult when your backup quarterback's coming in now. He did play a few games last year, Michael Hawkins Jr. But if you don't have a run game to really lean on and rely on, that makes his job a lot more difficult. So I think Oklahoma's going to have to figure out some answers there and just play really, really great defense. They're both going on at the same time this weekend, Jess. It's Saturday evening if you could only watch one, Georgia, Alabama, or Penn State, Oregon. This is what the quad box is all about, Zaz.
Starting point is 00:11:21 I don't have to ever make that decision ever again. What year is that question from? Yeah. Well, don't you like watching the game with sound? Let me rephrase. Pretend this is a question from 2016. I don't know who you impersonating there, not me. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:11:36 I think I would probably choose Penn State Oregon, to be honest with you. It's a whiteout game. Penn State really hasn't been tested at all this year. Oregon also hasn't played like a top 25 team yet. I want to see their quarterback against a good defense, Dante Moore. It's a tough road game for Oregon, who I think, I don't know what the spread is on that game. There's a lot of games this weekend as where the road team is favored by enough points that I'm like, hmm, I'm curious about that.
Starting point is 00:12:03 Like USC and Illinois, so Illinois just got blown out by 50 points, 60 points to Indiana last week. But USC is only a six and a half-point favorite going to Urbana-Champaign this weekend. So like there's a few games like that, Notre Dame at Arkansas. The line in some places down to three and a half, which to me indicates Notre Dame's best defensive player, Leonard Moore. Maybe he's not going to play this weekend. He's had a little bit of an ankle. That's really bad for Notre Dame's defense who really needs him to be able to play. So I'm kind of, that's what I'm going to be watching this weekend,
Starting point is 00:12:34 is some of the road favorites going in across-country trips, seeing how they fare places like Oregon and Penn State. Yeah, USC had a late-night game last week, and now they're kicking things off with a noon start in Champaign. That's probably what the line is taken into account. I was really into this Notre Dame Arkansas game before this season because I thought that could be a tricky spot for Notre Dame. And now I'm even more interested because Arkansas got caught looking ahead.
Starting point is 00:13:00 I know Memphis is a good football team, but the way that game landed in their schedule was awfully nice for Memphis. They shouldn't have lost that game. They shouldn't have, but Memphis is a solid team, but a lot of people are citing look-ahead factor. It was sandwiched in between two big games. What do you think? You think Arkansas's running back was looking ahead in the last three minutes
Starting point is 00:13:18 when he fumbled inside the five-yard line. I'm saying the reason why the game was close was because, you know, Arkansas was potentially... I mean, these are all cliches. I don't actually know. I doubt they were all like, hey, we can't worry. You told me at the beginning of the show today that you know ball and I don't know ball. No, I didn't say I know ball. I just said you don't.
Starting point is 00:13:33 You said you know ball. I mean, I know more ball than you. I don't know what you're doing right now. You don't know more. ball than me. No, it wasn't just... Says he doesn't go to you for ball. Yeah, it was Jeremy, too. I don't go to either of you for ball. But what do you make of this game, Jess? Because Notre Dame's defense, I know their offense is scoring crazy. CJ Carr seems like the truth, but that defense only gets more scary when they give up 30 points of Purdue. Yeah, well, one of those touchdowns
Starting point is 00:13:56 was in garbage time. Like, we talked about this extensively in my podcast, The Echoes, with Michael Jr. Notre Dame overall, their coverage hasn't been what was expected coming into the season. They had to start two true freshmen last year, or last weekend, I'm sorry, because of injury and a red shirt freshman at safety because of a targeting penalty from the game before. So they were playing a little bit inexperienced in the secondary, which is a position group that was excellent for them last year. And again, like I said, Leonard Moore being out and he's one of probably the best corner in college football, that's a really tough loss to overcome for Notre Dame. So they really have to figure out what they're doing in the secondary. And I think that starts up front
Starting point is 00:14:38 with the pass rush. They've got to be able to figure out how to get some pressure on the quarterback. Talen Green for Arkansas is a really exciting player to watch. He does make mistakes, but he can move and he can exploit you if you're not disciplined. So I think it's a tough task for Notre Dame
Starting point is 00:14:54 defensively, but you're right, Mike. Arkansas's defense has also let teams run the ball well. Notre Dame has two awesome running backs, Jedari Price and Jeremiah Love. CJ Carr has been great. The wide receivers have been really solid. The offensive line's gotten better every week. So So I'm taking the overs in every Notre Dame game until proven otherwise.
Starting point is 00:15:12 I mean, this was a team last year that shut teams down defensively. That has not been the case so far this year. And granted, they have played two top 25 teams to start the year and did well enough against Purdue to blow them out. So, you know, take it with a grain of salt. Howdy, folks, it's Mike Ryan, and I know it's early in the NFL season, but it has shown you exactly why the NFL is indeed king sport in the United States of America. great games, incredible matchups, in-demand tickets for these high-profile games, sometimes, oftentimes. These games are sold out, and you're left with the secondary market. Well, let me tell you about my go-to on the secondary market, the official ticketing partner of the Dan Levitard show.
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Starting point is 00:17:28 Stugats. Women stay home. In the kitchen where they're not. This is the Dan Levitar show with the Stoogads. You got beef with any top 25 teams right now? I don't have beef with anyone ever, Zaz. What are you talking about? I mean, like the rankings.
Starting point is 00:17:51 You got beef with any of the rankings. That's week four. I don't have beef. Well, I save my beef to like week 10, and then I get really beefy. do you have a way to get intrigued about Clemson unc i'm scheduled for that the most exciting thing about clemson unc is that they're doing something before the game that everyone should do all the time they announced there's like this concert series going on at north carolina this year and ludicrous would be performing before the game the kickoff time was TBD everyone thought maybe it'll be
Starting point is 00:18:24 you know primetime kickoff because it's clemson and uncccccc no they got a noon slot so ludicris will supposedly be performing at 10 a.m. This is what time all concerts should start, Dan. 10 a.m. You're in there. You're drinking your coffee. Maybe you're still in your jammies. The concert ends. You go to the game and then you go home and you go to bed. Why aren't we doing this more often? Should I go to the ludicrous concert?
Starting point is 00:18:47 Yes. I think I'm going to be there. But 10 a.m. 10 a.m. is too early for a ludicrous concert. I don't know. Put it on the poll, please, Juju, at Lebitard Show. Is 10 a.m. too early for a ludicrous concert? Chris. Luda. Give me that energy. We need to do more 10 a.m.
Starting point is 00:19:03 concerts. I saw that there's like some bar that opened in New York where it opens at like 8 o'clock and then people come and dance and then they leave at like 10 o'clock. I need to figure out where this thing is because that is my timeline. You eat early dinner, early bird special dance, 6.30. You go out, you
Starting point is 00:19:19 dance, you have a couple drinks. You're in bed by 11 o'clock. I can't think of a single thing that sounds better than that. You are a young person. How is it that you are a fossilized mummy inside? I love sleeping. I love my bed. I have the most comfortable bed in the entire world. I have the, I have just like an amazing setup. I have wonderful sheets. I have a wonderful duvet, Dan. It just feels so good when I get into bed at night. And I think about it from the minute I wake up.
Starting point is 00:19:46 I think about how cozy I'm going to be come 10.30. And these stupid 11 p.m. Eastern big 10 conference games are cramp in my style. I hate it. I hate staying up to watch WMBA playoff games. I hate all of it. I want to be in bed, falling asleep to the Hawaii game. And I wake up maybe in like the second quarter. It's like, you know, 12, 45 or something. And then I fall back asleep. And then I wake up again, and then I fall back.
Starting point is 00:20:10 You're thinking about your bed while you're in your bed in the morning. You're thinking about getting back into your bed at night. Literally, like, I wake up and I'm like, this feels so good. I can't wait to be back here in 12 hours. Jess, what did you make of Whitweeks and Lynn Kiffin's daughter, hard launching? Wait. Okay, I have a prop. Hold on.
Starting point is 00:20:28 Hold on. Stay there. Okay. Vamp. All right. We're going to be right here. For those that don't know. Where could we go? For those that don't know, Whitweeks, who's a tremendous player for LSU, their team captain,
Starting point is 00:20:40 he decided to announce to the world that he is dating Lane Kiffin's daughter, and it just so happens to be game week between LSU and Ole Miss. So the head games have started early. I think that Lane Kiffin has already said, take the over on social media, saying that he's got to run it up on that LSU defense. So the banter has already begun, and today there is a special on ESPN, The Many Lives of Lane Kiffin. I might actually be in on that because... That looks good. I saw some clips.
Starting point is 00:21:07 I mean, he's had a remarkably interesting career and life, so I'm dialed. Is a coach allowed to tweet out, take the over? Chris, I had the same question. Like, that can't be. That just certainly, there must be some sort of rules about that. Mike, I don't know if you said this while I was getting my prop. Do you know what Weeks' nickname is? I do not know his nickname.
Starting point is 00:21:29 Well, let me show you. He's the honky badger. That is great. Wow. If you guys remember, I said last year, Lehman was producing that SEC, any given Saturday show that was on Netflix. That came out a couple months ago. Which in no way has influenced your Diego Pavia takes. No, not at all.
Starting point is 00:21:48 I mean, Lee barely talked to Diego Pavia. That's not true. Total, full disclosure. He shot a lot with Vanderbilt. the honky badger is that is the nickname of Whitweaks he wears like a very slutty crop top he's like a white middle linebacker so we have this coozy now courtesy of the Weeks Brothers I'm not sure
Starting point is 00:22:08 which one there's three of them on LSU Dan I'm not sure which one gave this to Lehman but he shot some stuff with them at their The Honey Badgers retired right he's not in the league anymore the Honey Badger's out of the NFL he was on Amazon pregame coverage I was impressed with him and Derek Carr got high marks there too last question before we let you go here and again the echoes is the name of her podcast for all your Notre Dame information uh sister jean retired retired from what
Starting point is 00:22:36 from her job being still with us the basketball lady um here's the thing dan so yesterday have you guys talked about the rapture yet a little bit yesterday how old is sister jean is she a hundred and six i believe that's too old yesterday i saw the quote graphic come up that she was retiring and I thought that she had passed away and I am a jackass so I wanted to be the first person to the group chat with the rapture joke and then I realized after the fact she just said retired so I felt it felt really terrible about that I guess I would feel worse if she did actually pass away but I mean she's 106 like she's obviously had an incredible life so anyways shout out to sister Jean not raptured yeah I guess my my beef with the top 25s as let's bring
Starting point is 00:23:23 at full circle. Illinois, still being ranked after losing by 50 points is kind of silly. I'm with you. I don't think you could be ranked if you lose to anyone by 50. Yeah, that's a lot of points. I thought you didn't do beef until week 10. What happened? You changed your opinion? This is like what's it called? Like, impossible
Starting point is 00:23:39 chicken or whatever. This is like fake beef. Like it's, it's vegan beef. It's made out of like, I don't know, satan, whatever that's what's called. I don't think it's called satan. Say tan. Is S-E-I-T-A-N. I don't know how to pronounce that word. You guys don't know anything about vegan food.
Starting point is 00:23:57 Don't scold me. I would say satan would probably be bad for branding. I would say maybe satan. Satan, perhaps. Mike Ryan. It's a wheat derivative. What is your take on being 106 years old? That's too old for somebody.
Starting point is 00:24:11 People shouldn't be that old. Time to die. My grandma always says put a bullet in my head if I live that long, which is very inappropriate. Especially in like these last few years, like Sister Jean, like she'd live through COVID. And you just got to be like, ah, she's lived through a lot more than COVID. We're not exactly like ending up to the original COVID. Oh, she was just retired. She's on the back nine now.
Starting point is 00:24:32 She lived through the bubonic plague. COVID's a disease come lately compared to what she's probably had. It's crazy that she's lived long enough for them to invent germ theory and then also rebuke germ theory again. I mean, holy crap. That is Jessica's grandmother. Sister Jean? That is not Sister Jean. Good seeing you, Jessica.
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Starting point is 00:29:54 yet to affect the show's content in any way, reports confirmed Monday that no one working at the Pat McAfee show seems to have noticed that co-host A.J. Hawk has been dead for the last three days. I saw that. That was funny. He's got like blood coming out of his nose and he's like gaunt. Hold on a minute. I got to read more from the report. Quote, what's his face has been dead since last week, but look, none of the other guys are even aware of it. Pat's just going on about the Ravens' run defense while the poor guys slumped over and decomposing
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Starting point is 00:30:57 as McAfee question whether Vikings quarterback J.J. McCarthy would be able to adjust to pro-level pass rushes. That's a good question, though. I'm surprised more people haven't picked up on this story. Dan, I hate to break this to you because we're having so much
Starting point is 00:31:13 fun, but the onion is satirical. Oh, come on, man. Oh, is it? Yeah. Oh, I got ballsacked. Yeah, he's alive. Oh, that's, well, I'm not going to say that's too bad. I almost trapped you. Tony, I've got some problems here with your guys' adult friends. Your guys' adult friends seem to have some judgment issues.
Starting point is 00:31:37 I'm worried about Chris Cody, who's going away for the weekend on a buddy trip. I think he's a little old for that, and I think his friends are too immature for that. And I'm worried about the judgment of Tony's friends as well Because one of your friends has done something bad this week One of my friends, Dan, has done something unspeakable Not even bad, unspeakable, okay? And he's a great kid, I love this kid, okay? Shout out to Stephen, big fan of his, right?
Starting point is 00:31:59 I like him. Him and his wife had a daughter, her daughter's birthday, September 28th, which just also happened to be Sunday. So instead of like any rational person would do As the head of your household and being like, hey, we're setting the date on a Saturday. they're having the party on a Sunday on a Sunday okay maybe a 10 o'clock birthday she's a year old you got a 10 o'clock birthday 11 o'clock birthday
Starting point is 00:32:21 you're there for a couple hours love that when you're done by noon exactly being bad all right we're done we're going to go to the Carolina house watch the games I'm like no no what we're going to do is Sunday 3 o'clock p. Now that's a problem and I'm like three o'clock my wife put it in the calendar and I was like are they calling it the witching hour party I was like wait a second babe hold on should be called bullshit well I'm looking at the thing and I'm like well
Starting point is 00:32:42 well, wait, Sunday is her first birthday party at 3.30? Three! Why is that in my calendar? She's like, yeah, that's when they're having the party. It's at a park. And I'm like, at a park? At a park. There's no TV's at a park. There's no TV's at a park. There's no TV's at a park. There's no TV's at a park. It's Sunday. It's three o'clock in the middle of all the great games that are happening. And then on top of that, we got Raven's Chief starting at 425. And I'm going to be where? You can't go. At a park in Westchester? Don't go. Hot as balls? Why are you got to go? Because they're part of our friend.
Starting point is 00:33:09 Ball and chain. Well, you said it. Part of your friend group. Part of our friend group. Not part of your friends. No, Jenny's friends with his wife. That sounds like a Jenny friend show up thing. Jenny's attendance more required than Tony's attendance.
Starting point is 00:33:23 Tony's got a job. Honey, I got a job. I mean, it's Ravens Chiefs. It's a Waterloo game. And on top of that, in the 1 p.m. slot, Eagles Bucks. A Waterloo game? You've got it as a Waterloo game? That's right, Dan.
Starting point is 00:33:39 Three consecutive weeks of saying Waterloo game. What are you expecting from the Chiefs because you've been yelling at me for three weeks about the Chiefs? I'm expecting the Chiefs to do what they usually do against Lamar Jackson, and that's win. Lamar Jackson is one in five in his career against the Kansas City Chiefs. One and three Ravens? Yeah? Well, you want to take that same tone and say one and three Chiefs? There's one team of our generation, and it would be far more shocking for that team to be the one and three team chiefs.
Starting point is 00:34:06 That'd be absurd to me. That'd be crazy. You know what's crazy? Having a birthday party at 3 o'clock on a Sunday when we have that massive game. On top of that, the other game in the 4 o'clock slate? Colts Rams, which have you said, big game. I don't want to do spoilers, but I told you that already.
Starting point is 00:34:23 I think I can compete with Tony in terms of friends doing things that we don't like them to do because I'm traveling. Dan painted it as a boy's trip. This is a couple's trip going away from one of my oldest friends' 40th birthdays. Like age-wise? He's turning 40. Yes. It's the oldest friends, though.
Starting point is 00:34:37 Well, no, like one of my longest friends. So why you say longest? Anyways, so we're going on a cruise, okay? And I have this thing when I go on cruises. I get the drink package. Anytime I see a group with matching shirts, you do a shot. Oh. And I love this game.
Starting point is 00:34:52 I'm going to be that group this weekend. They're doing matching shirts. We got sent to my house yesterday. It says, bleep, happy 40th. What happens on the cruise? Stays on the cruise. Like, we're going to be those people the first day of the cruise, wearing the matching shirts.
Starting point is 00:35:05 And I've always loaded this. And it's this one friend. I'm going to call them by name. it's Matt and his wife. They did this for his bachelor party when we did Epcot around the world. It's the only friends of mine that I ever have. Is it Matt or is it his wife?
Starting point is 00:35:16 If you really want to get to the weeds of it, I don't think Matt's doing this. But it's matching shirts and I don't want to be wearing him. I need to ask you something first about this drink package because this is always a debate for me when we go on cruises. How much do you have to drink in a day
Starting point is 00:35:34 to feel like, okay, this was worth it? I think the general line is anywhere from eight to eight to eleven and and the boy and a half drinks is the line and the boy is starting we're starting at 10 a m by the pool so like this is not an issue if you're a cody this is not a problem for you start earlier i'm robbing the place well the cruise are you coming to work on monday are you going to be off next week i actually it's a one day cruise this is a cruise out of port canaveral so i'm traveling up to orlando i will not be in monday because of that so how many days are you on this cruise we leave friday afternoon ports you're
Starting point is 00:36:08 Monday morning and then I drive back. So for the weekend, you're going to have at least 30 drinks is what you're saying. You want me to try to count? Because I think I'll smash that over. Please try to count. I would like to see that. Well, I can see. You ever do this move?
Starting point is 00:36:20 I kind of feel pride and shame when you look at the day. Because the way it works on your drink, you get a bill and it's all $0.00. But it's like, it tells you every bar you got a drink at. Anthetically 17. Like I'm telling you that, yeah, like on a good day, like on Saturday when we hit Cocoa, like you're talking. I'm talking 20. I'm thinking 20. What number would it have to be for you to be a little bit like, that was a lot?
Starting point is 00:36:43 Over 25, and I'm like, that's crazy. 25 drinks in a day? I mean, the apple martini doesn't fall far from the tree on this one. Like, these guys, the only thing that the Cody's like more than a drink is a bargain. So they're going to make sure to get their money. And both of them together? Man, don't sell yourself short there, pal. I'm telling you, I know it sounds crazy 20 drinks.
Starting point is 00:37:01 You start at 10 a.m. The way you're ordering these drinks, I'll take a shot here. Like, you can get to 15 before, like, 4 p.m. Fellas can drink on this show. Fellas can drink. We like drinks. I mean, 15 drinks. No, that's going to feel bad.
Starting point is 00:37:14 You're going to be useless to us next week. Just totally useless. I want to give you guys some football stats, and I want you guys to tell me which one of these you find most interesting, okay? Derek Henry has two fourth quarter fumbles this season. Before that, he had two fourth quarter fumbles in 136 games. The Giants, while they're in the division of the Eagles, who have won 19 of 20.
Starting point is 00:37:39 The Giants are 3 and 17 since the start of last season, and since Dayball started 7 and 2, he's 1133 and 1. So he has done nothing since the initial start where he made us all think that Daniel Jones was good for a while, and then we wandered away and are like,
Starting point is 00:37:57 it's not good, and then he's back to being good again. And Ashton Genti, 68% of the time this season, he's being hit behind the line of scrimmage. He's breaking tackles. He's got 150 yards after contact, but it's always contact in the backfield. Three out of four plays, Ashton Genty's getting the ball, and he's getting hit before he gets to the line of scrimmage.
Starting point is 00:38:20 He definitely hates his life, right? That offensive line. Mina and others thought the Raiders were going to be good at offense. They got Pete Carroll, they got Gino Smith, they got Tom Brady, and they can't do anything. Gino's up there in yards. Yeah, because they're so far behind. He's constantly chucking it.
Starting point is 00:38:35 up. I'm kind of shocked at how Sideways this has gone for the Raiders in two weeks. What are your thoughts on which of those stats was the most interesting one? I think the Gentie. I mean, it seems like a miserable existence if you're Ashton Genty through three games. We were all so certain. This guy,
Starting point is 00:38:52 I know he doesn't have the pro-body type, but we were all certain watching college football. That guy's really, really good. And if there's ever an argument to pick a running back high, it's Genty. But then I do remember the photos of him at the Heisman ceremony, and he is so much smaller than all the other guys.
Starting point is 00:39:09 I'm like, I'm curious to see how this is going to look in the NFL. So far it doesn't look great, but it doesn't look great because he's getting hit behind the line of scrimmage, because Dan Mention, he is breaking tackles. He's just not going to look the same kind of dynamic if he's getting hit that often in the backfield. The other thing in this sport that I think is either undercovered or covered poorly. Okay. Lane Johnson left the game the other day for the Eagles, and they had 10 years. yards on the next six drives, because Lane Johnson is enormously important to that football team.
Starting point is 00:39:42 And I don't think we talk about offensive linemen enough. I don't think, when I say Trent Williams, you know what I'm saying. When I say Lane Johnson, you know what I'm saying. But after that, you don't think of dominant offensive linemen. And the idea that the Eagles would lose Lane Johnson and a team that is won 19 of 20 for the next six drives would get a total of 10 yards because they can't do very much if Lane Johnson's not out there mauling everybody. We don't know what we're watching. We don't know what we don't know how to evaluate quarterback play. We don't know the routes. So we don't know how good a receiver is.
Starting point is 00:40:17 We're doing our best with the information that we have and we don't even have a live all 22 most of the cases. It is a little confusing to me though how in a game of real estate acquisition we choose to ignore general units because who cares like individual like it's hard to tell what a guard does, I guess. They pull. Yeah, they can pull in sometimes. Sometimes they push. But individual units should absolutely be talked about way more.
Starting point is 00:40:44 Like the Eagles offensive line unit gets talked about a lot. They don't have Jason Kelsey, so less so now. But it's the game. They literally put a ball where they think you move the line of scrimmage to, and a lot of teams base their identity on literally just doing. that. We are going to push our way down the field and it's it opens everything up. It opens
Starting point is 00:41:08 everything up for the quarterback. It makes every other player on the field that much better and we just choose to ignore it. If you put importance on every single unit on a football team, are the Eagles offensive line the best unit in football? I love that take. Yes. Yes.
Starting point is 00:41:24 Like receiver, quarterback room, D.Bs, linebackers, across the board. The most important, the single most important unit. in the sport. So you're asking, is the Eagles offensive line better at what they do than the best quarterback in the NFL?
Starting point is 00:41:40 Than everything. Better than Patrick Mahomes or Josh Allen. I think the Eagles' offensive line over the last few years has been better at its job than even Josh Allen or Lamar Jackson or Patrick Mahones have been at their individual job. I raise you the Bengals wide receivers. It's a good room.
Starting point is 00:41:56 Yeah, but Burroughs out and all of a sudden, Jamarch Hayes and T. Higgins had one catch us last week. When you guys talk about guard play, I was trying not to be a prisoner of the moment during that University of Miami, Florida game, when I said, Brock Meyer, that's the worst game I've ever seen a center play because I just, I'm not watching the center. And so I'm not ever noticing what the hell the center's doing. I'm like, why does he keep getting penalties? Why can't he snap the ball on time? Why is the center getting multiple false starts? Grades out really high for them.
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