The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 2: The Aaron Rodgers Documentary

Episode Date: December 18, 2024

Do you miss the Kurt Thomas baseline jumper? What about the Tyrone Hill pick-and-pop? Did the Eric Snow elbow jumper do it for you? What if layups counted for three points? Subjective three-point lines? It's time to fix basketball and Chris and Stugotz have whipped up some ideas. Plus, we check back in with Roy one more time and he brought a visitor along: Rose. Then, Greg Cote had Alonzo Mourning on this week's Greg Cote Show With Greg Cote and he discusses the emotional interview he did with him and how Chris make Zo unhappy with some of his questions. We wrap up the show by talking about the new docuseries which follows Aaron Rodgers and whether or not Billy ended up like Rodgers by the end of it. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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This is the Don LeBattor Show with the StuGuts Podcast. So that was chaotic. And we've had some tension in the room here because Mike Ryan and Amin, a real fight broke out. A real, I'm defensive about basketball, how dare you say hockey has become more important than basketball and we all got, you know, uncomfortable around them shouting at each other.

It escalated to MF'er for no reason whatsoever. Can we get Amin? Mike is left, I don't know where he is, I hope this doesn't spoil the holiday party that it doesn't seem anyone wants to go to. And Amin is still here, he's flown in, like he was in Vegas, and he cares deeply about his sport. His sport is under attack, man.

Like, it's, Adam Silver, it wasn't that long ago that he was the leader of all leaders and he knew what, how to be progressive in ways that would make the sport evolve and since then basketball has been used as a political tool for its social commentary and if you go woke, you go broke, NBA, you did all the social justice stuff and now look at your ratings and look at how everyone says it's three pointers or something else. Amina is defensive about his sport for good reason. Like he cares deeply, cares more than most of the people consuming it.

Yeah, I mean, I would say I care deep. I don't want to compare, but I think the problem is many of the arguments are straw man arguments. They're red herrings that you guys are following. Frankly. Straw man. Thank you. But now we had that sounder. For example, I'll give you an example, Dan. You mentioned it yesterday when I was on the show briefly,

but the Bulls and the Hornets played a game where 75 missed three pointers. And everybody was like, oh my God, this is why the NBA sucks. And I said, okay, so the headline is, two horrible teams play against each other and play in a horrible game, and that's what we're judging the sport on That's what we're doing. Why don't we judge it off Raiders Panthers and NFL like we could do this across the board There are bad teams in every sport and bad teams play bad games The reality is everyone who's crying about the lack of a mid-range shot in the NBA or

the demise of the mid-range shot is. You look around the league, does Steph Curry shoot mid-range shots? Yes or no? Occasionally. Not occasionally, he shoots quite a few. If you say so. Kevin Durant? Yes.

Devin Booker? Yeah. Jimmy Butler? Sure. Jason Tatum? Mm-hmm. Jaylen Brown? Yeah. Luca Dantic? Yeah, Kyrie Irving. Okay, so it seems to me the mid-range shots we got rid of

was from the Eric Snows of the world. That's what you guys are missing. Harless Boozer. Yeah, you're missing all these guys who are missing. I do miss Eric Snow. I have to be honest with you. Yeah, you're not certain if it's gonna go in. You're pretty certain it's not gonna go in.

But it'll get you eight assists, I mean. Stugats, you missed the Tyrone Hill pick and pop 18 footer? Yeah, I do, yeah. You missed Kurt Thomas on the baseline? I do, actually, yes, money, yep. Udonis Haslam, remember when he learned how to shoot? Yeah. See, like, Dan, that's the mid-range shots

that got legislated out of our game, because basically what we told every role player is, hey, either you're gonna make a three to spread the defense out so that Luca and Steph and Kevin Durant can do these amazing things that we all actually paid to see. We wanna see those guys do amazing things. So you need to stand out there at the three point line

so the defenders can't just sag and sit right there and help. Or you're gonna be an amazing athlete who's gonna catch lobs and dunks like Clint Capella and Rudy Gobert and all these guys that just exist for an alley-oop in case someone tries to collapse. What we got out of the game was all the people we didn't want to see shooting. That's what we got.

Now, are you gonna have nights where people shoot poorly? Yeah, that's the game. But like to base it all on one thing like that, to me the NBA doesn't have a three-point problem, it doesn't have a load management problem, despite what you guys were ridiculous about earlier. What the NBA has is a marketing problem. We don't know how to market our game in a way that's salient. I just came back from Vegas, the NBA Cup.

You know who there was an abundance of with great access to everything? Influencers. And that's awesome. These people have millions of followers. They get millions of views on Instagram. You know what the NBA has not yet learned how to monetize? The internet. Right?

So if we say, hey, the way we make our money, more than anything, is people watching on TV. Let's market to the number one audience that doesn't watch TV. That's what we're doing. And I'm like, that's the part where we're behind. Or maybe we're ahead. Maybe the NBA says, look, in the future,

no one's gonna watch TV. And then we'll have the market cornered. For sure. But right now, our metrics for success are not measuring the things that we are going after, and that's your problem. It's not wokeness, it's not load management, it's not three-pointers, it's not any of that.

Yes, still super defensive. Yep, mm-hmm, more defensive. Yeah, he is, put it on the pole, please, Juju. Juju, do you miss the Tyrone Hill pick and pop 18-footer? Mm-hmm, how about the Kurt Thomas baseline jet? I mean. I have a solution. I've seen a lot of people the last few weeks

doing the topic of like, how can we fix basketball? And I'm gonna play the game. But I have one that I haven't heard. Let's do it. You miss four straight three pointers, power play for the other team. Wow, I love it. One guy leaves the court for a full minute.

I mean, this is a dangerous area. When Billy Chris and Stu Gots try to fix your sport, when they try to fix your sport with rule changes, this is a terrible place for your sport to be. Well, Amin doesn't get to decide for me why basketball is no longer as popular for me as it used to be, okay? You don't get to do that.

I am telling you that when I go to games, I never go to games, but if I went to a game, I have questions as to who's gonna be playing in that game, and then the style of play is not something I'm a fan of. I don't like 54 threes a game. I don't like it. In fact, you should be limited to 23 attempts per game. And that's it.

What, 23? That would, no, 20. No, 20. 23. 23s. I thought you said 23. I thought you were doing a Jordan homage. Yeah, Jordan.

Now we are trying to change the rules. Greg Cody came to me before the show and he said to me, three should be twos and two should be threes. I thought you were doing a Jordan homage. Yeah, Jordan. Now we are trying to change the rules. Greg Cody came to me before the show and he said to me, three should be twos and two should be threes. I agree with that. I do. He wants a three point layup. Yes.

So Greg, let me pitch you this. Maybe it's too gimmicky for Greg Cody, but let me give it a try. I will say. I'll give you a touch of that. So in baseball, I got one better than that. So I'll twice this. In baseball, what's the whole,

what's how far is a home run from home plate? Depends on the park. Depends on the park. From 312 feet to 412 feet. We could say that some teams have players that benefit greatly from the way the park is designed, right? What if the three point line was subjective by NBA Arena? So if I'm Milwaukee, Giannis gets a lot of stuff in the paint, I'm putting the three point line right subjective by NBA Arena. So if I'm Milwaukee, Yannis gets a lot of stuff in the paint.

I'm putting the three point line right there in the paint. If I'm Golden State, I'm like, no, no, I want it as far as possible. And now, there's a little bit of strategy when you go from building to building. Hey, how many threes are we taking? What about the power play thing? I like the power play thing, I'm not gonna lie.

How are you getting sucked into the fixed basketball conversation with ridiculous rules? How about this, the paint is a ball pit. How has Amin gotten sucked into having the conversation about how to fix basketball when he doesn't agree that anything other than the marketing has to be fixed? Because then, I don't mind rule changes. Our game has changed rules more than probably any of the other sports maybe

maybe not football in the last ten years that those guys are going crazy I mean Dan thinks we're doing this wacky thing when we try to change the rules he laughed at the golden at bat now they're seriously considering the golden about we're not doing anything wacky we're trying to improve the sports that we love that's all save the sports summer we love. That's all. Save the sports, Somerset. All right, so let's put- Even though influencers were there. Three point layup.

Let's put a bookmark in it. Thank you. So good. Both of you. That's perfect show right there. Billy muttering influencers and then Greg Cody coming in over the top. Don't you think it would be great

if points in the paint counted as three? I don't wanna do this right now. A skyhook? All right, just hold on to it. We'll get back to it. I gotta go out to Stoic Roy. I've gotta continue our toy drive. You guys forgot that we're still doing this today. Thank you, the Roy drive.

We want an assortment of new and unwrapped gifts. We will be out there tomorrow again. Dolphin Mall 111401, Northwest 12th Street. New toys. Let's go out here to Roy. We're gonna be here tomorrow as well and we're telling you we uh... we're taking uh... gifts seven a m to two p m monday through friday this

week corner coffee here at the elser and i will match whatever uh... toys it is that we get let's check in again with roya roya give us an update there i see that uh... you are resplendent with more toys than you had before as people come in from all over America to give you toys how's it going out there? Well it's much much better now we've gone from two toys to about what seems to be about 15 right now so we have gained some traction on the toy drive or the Roy drive as you like to call it. Is Rose there can it

become a Rose drive is that Rose doing that in the background? It is Rose. Rose is... you want to bring her over? You want to help produce your own segment there Roy? You want to help? Or you want to wait for a bunch of a team of enablers to come and help Santa Roy be better at producing here? Thank you. It was Rose doing the bell. Festa. Yes the bell. Thank you Rose Rose. She was doing the bell. Yeah. It was Rose doing the bell. Festive. Festive, yes, the bell. Thank you, Rose. Roy, can you please ask Rose to give us an update on how things are going out here?

If she can't hear me, how things are going out there at the toy drive? It's going great. We're cheering here, Roy, with... Can you get lower, Rose? We can't see your head. Rose, we can't see you. There we go. Bye, Rose. You're too high. See me now? Yes, we can see you now. Roy with can you get low can you get lower roads? We can't see You're dressed like an elf it's wonderful. Yes. Thank you what give us give us a toy drive update, please

It's going great. We've seen a lot of people so we need more people to come because we need more gifts, but it's great We're having fun, right Roy? Sure. Yeah. I have a new nickname for Roy this week only. Can I unveil it? Roy Jinglebell me. I like it. Thank you. I do too. So does Roy. Thanks, Roy. You get it, Dan? You're welcome, Roy. No, it's too complicated. It's gone over my head. All right, Rose and Roy, any final words here from the Roy Drive as you go up here? 18 more minutes, a grueling day out in Dolphin Mall on the cusp of the Everglades. Well, please come tomorrow as we continue the toy drive. I heard that Billy might be the one in the Santa costume.

Roy, your mustache is falling off and you haven't done a good job of producing this segment. And you heard wrong. And you heard wrong. Thank you for all your good work out there. Appreciate your effort. I heard wrong. Well, Billy's not showing up.

All right, thank you. That's a fake beard. I don't know. We have to talk to Billy. Roy, an excellent job producing yourself and Rose there as if you've never done radio or television before. I appreciate all your hard work out there. Yes, excellent broadcasting.

Come back home for the holiday party. I'm sure you won't drink too much of the free liquor. Come on back. You never know. No, I'm pretty sure I do know. I'm pretty sure I do know that you will drink too much of the free liquor. Christmas tree Rollins.

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You need an Ian in your life. You have actively played defense against me today in a way that has rarely been this undercutting. Stugats! Defense wins championships, baby. That's show business. This is the Don LeVatar Show with the Stugats. I want to do a couple of things with you guys.

God bless you, the snowman. Oh! We need Jeremy to keep working on those Christmas songs. Cody, your podcast, The Greg Cody Show, featuring Greg Cody. With, thank you. Fine. Has, I can call him Miami legend, Alonzo Morning.

I think he is. Yes, of course he is. Yeah, he is. Yeah. And he's gone through a really rough year with health issues, and he's been very forward and out front with talking about what he's gone through, and we talked to him about it at length on the podcast. It's actually a pretty serious interview.

We get nutty and everything, because Christopher's a part of it, and he's asking inane questions that upset Zo. Yeah, I'm pretty sure Zo hated me. Yeah, but still, it was a good interview. Well, I think you guys probably experienced when he says interviewed at length, there is no other kind of interview with a lot of He's a bit wordy. He can be that's the beauty of editing. We tighten it up. Okay What'd you ask him? Yeah, just give us one tease

What did you ask him that he didn't prefer? Oh Greg No, but Greg this is the great Oh, Greg. Why did- Well, hold on. No, but Greg, this is the- He's setting his son up. No, he's not setting me up. He has no clue.

Oh, no. Greg, how do you not know how to promote what's on your own podcast and you have to go, son, what did we do? Like a doddering old man. Yeah, you'd think that he would have been prepared to answer that rather than make an issue of the fact that I had asked. I am prepared. I just, we're making fun of you because you can't answer it.

But Greg, what was the best thing on your podcast? Please don't outsource that. Please answer the question as the host of your own podcast. The best thing on my podcast was Alonzo Mourning talking very emotionally and about how terrified he was thinking he was dying and all that he went through and why he's coming forward now to alert people to do the same and to get

checkups and to be aware of their health. He talked a lot about, you know, the Overtown Youth Center that he founded 20 years ago and about his work in Miami to promote affordable housing in areas that need it and it's a very good interview. And then he was also going around his office showing pictures with Obama and just all these people and I was like, oh, these are all great pictures, where's the sad photo with you and Jason Capone? Yeah, he didn't like that.

He didn't like that. He was like, I don't associate with sad. It's a good question though. It's a very good question. It's a very good question. So you think it's a good question to ask Alonzo Mourning to insult a teammate by saying, hey, that Jason Capone who's stunk.

Well, I was just more like, hey, you have all these fun ones, what's the saddest one? I imagine it, it's Jason Capone. Alonzo Mourning, not really a laugher. Well, he doesn't associate with sad either. He was, he was. Kind of in the middle there. We caught him in a good mood.

I think he's in a good mood. It's hard to tell where you stand with Zo. I mean, I'm just saying. I don't think it is hard to tell. Really? I think you better be careful. Really? Yes, I think Alonzo Mourning, over the years,

has earned the reputation as somebody who can be very stern and serious, and be careful, don't insult him by being too playful. Right. Like, playful's not really his... Playful among teammates, maybe. and uh... you'd be careful don't insult him uh... by being too playful right like people playful not really is not and playful among teammates maybe playful among journalists not so much yeah that's fair

do you think so with like the three point lay out the group request i think that that you know you know what and i think that uh... get him back on uh... can i get some uh... sound here to help greg cody promote uh... podcasts in general uh... the comedian andrew santino is on this week's edition of south beach sessions he is uh... climbing very quickly up of comedy ranks and he has gotten popular friends with famous people uh... the cal sees uh... he has become friends with patrick mahomes and he is a Bears fan.

And his fellow Bears fans are yelling at him for rooting for the Chiefs. They say he cannot root for the Chiefs, so he's got something to say to them on the recent edition of South Beach Sessions. No, but he gets, I get so much crap for cheering on Kansas City, because everyone online is saying,

you're a Bears fan, you're a Bears fan. And let me say this to your audience. I am a Bear, I'm a diehard Chicago fan for the rest of my life, okay? But you go get yourself to Hall of Fame Super Bowl champion friends. Go get two of them, and then you tell me you're not gonna root for their team a little bit, okay? Okay?

It pisses me off when people are like, who do you root for, who do you sell out? Sell out? Two of my friends are Hall of Fame current players. What, you are not gonna root for them? What are you talking about? You need to not be friends with them so that you can only root for the Bears.

That's an insane, like, this is an ideology that I think America still has where they're like, you can't do that, you sell out, you cross it over. Really, dude? The fans are right. I mean, they should be outraged. Is that a Bears fan? Plus his friends aren't technically in the Hall of Fame yet. I mean, that's being a little presumptuous. Yes. Which one of them do you not see going to the Hall of Fame either? Either They are playing a couple more rings

They don't have a long way to go they both be in the Hall of Fame if their careers ended today We'll see about that no a little if their careers ended today. Oh, I like I like this spin I'm with dad on this one. They would both be in the five years from the day No, not five years from the day. If their career ended today, they should walk straight to the Hall of Fame. They're not even taking off their uniform. Just walk straight to the Hall of Fame, both of them.

How about Russell Wilson, if career ended today? Because he played his way in and then out, but now he's had another good season. He's in your back. What do you think, Dan? Billy, thank you for bringing that up. I do appreciate it. Let's talk about that Aaron Rodgers documentary

You guys watch that yet, or what? I see it every weekend I Dan you like documentaries we know this I Find myself falling for the traps of the documentaries so I texted two people I saw that the Aaron Rodgers one came out yesterday. I was like well It's gonna be a talking point I should probably watch this but it's three parts and I started watching at 930 at night Which is usually when I fall asleep So I knew it was gonna be a task to watch all three episodes last night But I texted two different people when I started I go

I'm mentally preparing myself to like Aaron Rodgers when this is done because that's how these documentaries always go You always end up thinking like oh, you know Joe exotic is really not that bad a guy and it's like well He kind of is so like all these documentaries make you sympathetic towards the person and then like somewhat liking them at the end So I went in there saying I'm probably gonna like Aaron Rogers when this is done. Not that I dislike him now I'm just like I feel like it's gonna be very pro Aaron Rodgers. I kind of feel bad for him Like watching it. Yeah family stuff it just And you guys can watch it and I'm not gonna give you too much information

It's incredible access and I also realize no one is living life without a camera crew around them anymore in 2024 because this starts pre Jets injury like he already had the camera crew there He was already doing stuff before he got injured. And then you're kind of, are then following him as he got injured through his recovery. Then you're kind of going back in time, learning about how he kind of came up through the ranks, had to play at a junior college, all that stuff.

So the project started when he joined the Jets? It started like right before he joined the Jets, I think. So I don't think this necessarily was supposed to be how it went, but it became this other thing. And then it's broken up into like three different episodes and each episode is like a different story that they're telling about Aaron Rodgers.

So far, two episodes in, like two and a quarter in, because I fell asleep in the third. I feel bad for him in, and it's not the way that you think, I feel bad for him in that it's not the way that you think I feel bad for him in that like He doesn't seem happy Like it seems like he spent his entire life wanting one thing and that was to you know Get to the NFL was to get to division one school then I was to get to the NFL then it was to win the Super Bowl and he did all of that and then there just seemed to be like an emptiness in him. And now he's just spent the rest of his life trying to fill that feeling and chase like

meaning, really. So it's kind of sad because he's accomplished all this stuff and seems to still think he's not enough and he's not really doesn't have this meaning in his life. And he's just kind of seeking it out and searching it in all these different areas. I would assume just based on watching a public meltdown that doesn't have any precedent for me in terms of how a superstar has disintegrated for years into being one thing, then becoming something else.

I have thought watching from afar as his family stuff has become uniquely public for an athlete, that part of the problem at every turn is that joy is only so joyous if it isn't shared with people like if he's having trouble with his relationships with women and he's having trouble navigating fame and he doesn't have his family to share any of it with like who's Aaron Rodgers sharing love with they're gonna be friends and stuff but the journey he's taken over the last few years I don't know how I

don't know who those friends are what they look like or how distorted his entire life has gotten because he's gotten sort of brain-fried internet rot brain and I don't know who's telling him much of anything about like hey Aaron are you like with the rest of us? Are you just over there still on McAfee at four and ten talking about show me your vac status when we're all looking at your season and the end of your career and saying, man, you were really one of the best to ever do this. Why does it have to look like this at the end? He was a four-time MVP. From what Billy is saying though, it also seems like, and Dan, you have discussed this, we have discussed this

a lot over 20 years, is reaching the pinnacle of your profession at such an early age and then what do i do when this is done oh but he's still enjoying like you get nobody gets this long i know we've made advancements with medicine and everything else but somebody's gonna want him next year did because it just so last month okay he's looked like you can move around has been getting any and really accurate and he's again playing for his job and that's not normal at that age

i have seen what stugatsa's jets of don over forty years not by thought erin rogers over the last four games would have been what they were getting all season. They've lost Seven one score games Oh and seven. I Thought Aaron Rodgers was there so that would be seven and oh, yeah No, and so if they're seven and I like I thought well if I replace Zach Wilson with Aaron Rodgers And he thought that's how it would go. That's why he's doing that whole documentary

He thought he was gonna be great in New York because he's one of the best to ever do it. Like that's not up for dispute. I'm not gonna have that erased by the last three years. It's not really like a football documentary though. Like his rehab is covered and you're kind of seeing how he's trying to get back. But like it tells his football story, but it's really more like who Aaron Rodgers is

and how he got here is kind of what it is. Like it goes back to like his very Christian upbringing and then the fact that he went to more of a liberal college and how it had him start questioning things because he kind of got out of the bubble that he was in and then he started really having more questions in life and then as he had more success and he wasn't finding happiness,

he then started looking for happiness and reading books and finding happiness in different places that then take him down these different paths. Like it's kind of interesting, but like, you do feel bad for him. The one thing that I would say is that like, some of this stuff, and it's not meant to be judgmental, but some of this stuff that he's like,

well, I didn't really want any of this. And it's like, yes and no. Like, yes, you want it to be a great football player, but like also, he said that he kind of lost. Like, once he won the Super Bowl, everything changes. He became a public figure. He was never seeking that out of the fame or whatever. And it's like, maybe not, but you also decided

to be the State Farm guy that kind of really elevated you into a household name everywhere. So there's things like that that were decisions that were made. He even alluded to some of the people that he's dated. He even talked about the family stuff to an extent. So there's a lot in there, and you kind of see how he got to where he's dated, he even talks about the family stuff to an extent. So there's a lot in there, and you kinda see how he got to where he got to, whether you agree with what he's doing or not.

But at the end of the day, judgment aside, I just kinda, I kinda hope he just finds happiness, you know what I mean? And find some sort of meaning and fulfillment in his life, because that's really what he seems to be searching for, just in places that are not necessarily where you and I would. The Jets.

Well, yeah, that. It has seemed over the last five years, once you're into Iowa, once you're getting to the Ayahuasca portion of your journey, you're really searching for something. Well, that started earlier than we think too, if you watch it, because I think he's gone to like four or five retreats now.

And I think it goes back deeper than the initial one that like we, the big one like a year and a half ago or whatever, he had already done that a couple of different times. It's one hell of a midlife crisis, man. I don't know that I would call it a crisis, like watching it. Like his behavior is not what I think most people would do, but like I see how and why he's doing it. I don't

necessarily need to agree with it. I just kind of feel bad that he's going through it. And he just feels as though, seemingly, as someone who's just watching a documentary that he produced, he's going through seemingly not, I guess, being truly happy and accepting of himself. I mean, isn't that the entirety of the journey,? I don't wanna go too self-help on this, but once you get to some form of better self-love that's forgiving for yourself, then you love others better

and you allow them to love you better as well. He's probably wandering through life, feeling a little alone and empty because of his absence of connections and looking for spiritual enlightenment through ways that kill the ego with ayahuasca because it seems pretty obvious over the last five years that he's searching to be happier, but is that a path to be judged or is that a path to be celebrated?

Once you get out there with all of these political opinions and look for all of these fights, that's not a happy place. It's hard to be fighting the entirety of the internet for five years pretending you don't care about anybody's opinion when you're the guy who went to Mina Kimes is like wherever she was you wanted to so badly be understood by the public that you did a magazine story where you went To where Mina Kimes was her home and because you wanted so badly to be understood by the public That's not the behavior of somebody who doesn't care to be understood But I will tell you where it is that I have felt more loved

by my wife than I have ever felt loved before, wherever understanding and acceptance are, it's a craving. It's really strong and you will find it around love, people who understand and accept you. Like, I don't know how much of that he's getting that would feel like fulfillment. Understanding and acceptance, which is how you arrive at making a documentary

that has access where you're showing everybody everything or trying to. It's crazy access to like there was cameras with him when he had a conversation with RFK. They didn't show it but spoiler alert, they didn't show it but like they showed him in the car driving back after going on a hike with RFK. He's like, yeah, he just asked me to be vice president. So like that wasn't a rumor. That was like he asked him that day to be his vice president, which is kind of wild.

Then they have the camera crew go with him to Costa Rica to these ayahuasca retreats. Oh boy, he's high. Really? He's, oh boy, he's playing a little drum there and he's singing and dancing. I love it. But he, I mean, that's his group,

that group of people he finds to be you know It's giving him what he's searching for then he goes to like this this charity game Day days after this retreat man Josh Allen comes out so nice because he's gonna say what a nice loving guy Just come and say hey, buddy. How's it going great to see you? What a happy guy that guy is Josh out. Yeah, it's crazy I'll let you know how I let you know how episode 3 episode 3 the tease was The whole vaccination situation you fell asleep, huh? You go I do that every Sunday. Well, the thing is is like they're each like an hour and six minutes long I start watching it. I've had to pause let the dogs out do this whole thing

And then like I come back I'm dozing It could have tightened it up slightly a little bit a little bit But you know, it's you know, it's interesting. I would say if you really want to, and you don't have to, reserve judgment while you're watching it. And then maybe it's a more enjoyable experience where you can get something out of it. If you go in there and you just want to hate Aaron Rodgers,

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when Billy's talking about Aaron and his search for happiness and some of the stuff he's he's thrown himself into over the last I don't know four or five years he would find happiness I would think if he disconnected he's too connected like disconnect I I would say that I Dan you ever spend the day without your phone it's the greatest day of your life I promise you yes don't you like always reach for your pocket you You're like where is this thing at? Yeah I have a heater though. Are we over complicated this though with with Aaron Rodgers? If he's the king of New York right now if

his time with the Jets has been a massive success and they're headed to the playoffs and they're really good are we still talking about how unhappy he is? That's a good question because the harder the times are, the harder it is to celebrate joy with others. Like four in ten is gonna seep into every aspect of your life no matter who you are playing for that team. And Torna Killies. Well I mean if you're if you're to believe the documentary in the way that it sets it up, winning the Super Bowl is really kind of what set this all off because he reached the pinnacle of what he thought would be happiness and realized, I'm not happy.

Like I did absolutely everything that I wanted to do professionally and I thought that would bring me the happiness and then once I got there is when things really started feeling like this is not what I wanted to feel. So this is what I will tell you from there and this one's super interesting too. Tyson Fury. Family. Everyone in the family families a street fighter you get to heavyweight champion and he looks up is like here it is all my dreams

gains a bunch of weight cocaine addiction drinking cuz all my dreams didn't look like i thought my dreams would look like i will tell you you've heard me tell the story before as a journalist when i got to the sports reporters in Times Square at the ESPN zone and they were doing that show on Sundays I'm like this is the top of my profession this is the highest place that there is and I looked around and I was immediately made sad by is this my dreams the bar smells bad they were throwing up and urine and you know chairs on the tables like this was that

was before the Cleveland this was last at as this was last night in times square what do you imagine much do you think new york humped the espn zone in times square the night before but what do you imagine that place was like in times square as you and the following morning

deeply unpleasant and the coffee table that was there was from 30 years ago, and Bob Ryan's breath was morning breath. Still caught up on humped. Yeah, haven't heard that in a while. Put it on the poll, please, Juju, at LeBretard's show. Do you ever use humped as a term for fornication? I had a similar experience, Dan.

The first time that I finally got a chance to be one of the panelists on Around the Horn, I thought that it was going to feel great. And it did. It's the best feeling I've ever had. I mean, seriously, I miss doing it. I miss reality. I miss Sedano. I miss the crew. It's exactly what I expected, but more. I mean, how about that? Well, that's why. That's why you're the industry titan that you are joyously swinging from vine to vine, enjoying whatever candy there is out there. You did a great job, Greg Cody, with the gifts. Thank you.

Stugatz has said Izzy is out there trying to rival you. Stugatz has said that this book. This man can rap. And the bigger gift. That's your unicorn. OK. That was a unicorn. That the bigger gift. That's your unicorn. Okay, that was a unicorn. That was a challenge. That was a challenge.

And these do seem like very well wrapped gifts. I'll give them that. Thank you. I saw Izzy, he's got rap game. I saw him. Yeah, I saw him. He was doing some good work out there. He was just cutting paper.

Little heavy on the tape, but that would be my only critique. I feel a little bit disappointed i feel disappointed that uh... is the uh... immediately tried to wrap gifts to rival you and you're just giving him a bit of a condescending yeah you're pretty good to kid you know i complimented his rap game you know you did but you're the cage but but but but like a high he doesn't quite rise to the level of one Greg Cody, right?

You know, you said it. You're being polite during the holidays. How did you feel about Izzy's wrapping game? I thought it was great. I would accept that gift, and I don't even know what was in there, but because he wrapped it, I would accept it. Wait, has there been a gift that's been poorly wrapped that you didn't accept?

Oh, I look down on badly wrapped gifts. Yeah, I'm going to be very honest with you. My wife is a wonderful person. She sort of goes really quick with the gift wrap. Oh, no. She probably buys seven times the amount of gifts that you read. She has a lot to wrap.

But they're all coming in cardboard boxes on the doorstep. seven times the amount of gifts that you read. At least. She has a lot to wrap. No. But they're all coming in cardboard boxes on the doorstep. Put it on the poll please at LeBotardShow. Do you look down on poorly wrapped gifts? Also from and by your wife. Hey folks, it's Mike Ryan. The holiday season is upon us. Christmas is coming next week.

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