The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 2: The Craziest Baseball Stat You've Ever Heard

Episode Date: September 23, 2024

Mike Schur is here to confront the show face-to-face over the crew's lackluster baseball coverage, but first, how 'bout The Red Rifle, huh? Mike shares numbers on Shohei Ohtani's run BEYOND his 50-50 season that will blow your mind, and he has a Barry Bonds themed Stat of the Day. Then, Deion Sanders and his Colorado team are now 3-1 which means we are contractually obligated to talk about them. Plus, "Monday Jay Glazer" is here to chat with the crew about Russell Wilson's injury and why the Steelers are built different, his wine collection, his best friend perks, the best coaches for young QBs, Dallas Cowboys running backs, and the Woj retirement. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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This is the Don LeBattor Show with the StuGuts Podcast. Look at him, StuGuts, all clean and fresh, ready for the work week, ready for the morning. He is here to attack all of our baseball coverage and he's here to do it face to face, not just in these cowardly voicemails that he leaves. Listening to you guys talk about baseball is so painful. The most painful way that I spend my time is when you guys decide to talk baseball. I mean just you need to let Jeremy or someone fact-check you as you talk about this. You need to have an ombudsman because you're just it's

awful. It's so bad. There have been ambidextrous pitchers. Greg W. Harris was ambidextrous. There's like three guys in the minors right now who been ambidextrous pictures. Greg W. Harris was ambidextrous. There's like three guys in the minors right now who are ambidextrous. Also, Jim Abbott had an arm. He had two arms. He didn't have a hand, which is what allowed him to switch his glove back and forth. And like Shohei Otani gets caught stealing a lot. No, he doesn't. No, he doesn't. He almost never gets caught stealing. And Tony's saying, I had no idea Ricky Henderson stole so many bags It's the thing he's most famous for it's the most Famous thing about one of the most famous baseball players that he stole bases

I mean for God's sake just do me a favor and don't if you're gonna talk about it this way. Don't talk about it It's too awful to listen to. I can't take it. I just came back from the dentist. I'm on my way home listening to this. It was so much more painful to listen to you talk about baseball than it was to go to the dentist. It's good to see him for the first time in months.

He's been very busy doing his Hollywood things and now he is here to yell at us in person. I mean, he's right. Otani has been caught stealing four times. Yeah four times this season. I sent him a text this weekend laughing because the reason that I got that wrong is because I'd misread a text from him in which he was telling me how often Babe Ruth got caught stealing. So it's Mike's fault. It's not Mike's fault it's clearly my fault for misreading a text where he tried to communicate something to me that i read poorly

uh... but yes mike sure it's nice to see you again he's been busy with the new netflix show a man on the inside will talk to about that in a second but uh... more blasphemous and egregious is tony uh... saying that ricky henderson he didn't know that he was that good at stealing bags uh... was that a bit but what did it was he serious or was that a joke? He was serious. He was serious What does he know about Ricky Henderson then? It's a good question. I'll ask him on the Rick and Bauer cause way the Rick first of all

How much red rifle talk has there been today, huh? There's red rifle talk in there There's been a lot by the way ricky henderson uh... leads major league baseball history it's stolen bases by a lot yes he's the only guy to have over a thousand stolen is very good i don't need to cover this again uh... is for tony there is a lot of these are all for researching that you got some like here's the thing with any dalton i said that andy dalton two things one carolina's winning that division no one uh... no one supported me on that at number two is Andy Dalton should be a Hall of Famer

I you know I told them about the text that you sent me. I gave them all the names No one agrees with me well He said he said he's gonna take his rifle place in the Hall of Fame is what he said Did also say that they're going to win the division, but that's after saying this just last week Let me be the first one to say it. I'll say it the Panthers going Owen 17. So it's changed That was that this is now Dan the red rifle is back Yeah, you can't hold him to that like that was before the red rifle showed up to save the day the guys He's gonna march that T. He's gonna march right into Canton. I'm with Stu on this

He's gonna the Top 26 all-time I think in passing yards top 30 top like 40 all-time in touchdowns now He's going to Canton just do you accept it the red rifle is gonna take its rightful place Ohio as a member You're supposed to be here to criticize our baseball coverage. Sorry, the Red Rifle takes precedence. When he's back as much as he is back,

that's what I wanna talk about. First of all, let me say this, congratulations. I haven't had a chance to congratulate you all on your anniversary, 20 years, it's a very big deal. I started listening to the oral history and you know, thank God you guys are finally taking a moment to reflect upon and talk about yourselves. Because I really feel like that's something

that's been missing from this show for the last 20 years. Let's dedicate, what is it, 52 hours over the next 26 weeks where you're just gonna, for the first time ever, the show's gonna really just think about it and talk about itself, and I'm really happy about that. Wait, Mike has promised interpersonal strife coming up in some next episode, so yes, there's gonna be some soap opera,

there's gonna be dramatic new reporting in this. On what? On what? On us. Wait to see. On ourselves, on Navel Gazing. But thank you for having me on. And for the record, the only reason that I sent you that voice message is because you

screened my call. I called you to yell at you and you didn't pick up. What am I supposed to do? I left you a message to tell you how truly terrible your baseball coverage is. And I'm happy that you're giving me the chance to yell at you face to face now. Yeah, pitch clock every thursday i'd mike sure solution everything that plagues us is more jeremy which i think you most people will know what we believe me

the last thing in the world and they should show you how how desperate this situation is the last thing i want on the shows more jeremy i just need someone someone to be there who understands what baseball is and how it functions so that if you decide to talk about it and you're musing out loud about Jim Abbott and know nothing about Jim Abbott and you're talking about how Ricky Henderson surprisingly was good at stealing bases, I need someone to be in that room to tell you how stupid you're being. And

Jeremy is the best I got. I thought it was a fair conversation I was trying to engage with you on text asking legitimately if you can be ambidextrous if you only have one hand Yeah, that's not that's not a salient point in the discussion That's not that's like that's not in the top 50 of the most important things, okay Well, you don't get who made who made you in charge of important things? You did by being terrible at talking about this It's a legitimate question. Can you be ambidextrous if you only have one hand? It's a legitimate question. It's but it's not the question

You should be asking when the level of baseball discussion is hey was Ricky Henderson good at stealing bases? You know what? Okay. We have bigger crises to bear fire to put out. Here's why I don't understand what I'm watching in baseball. Billy Gill went to a game last week expecting two home runs and a stolen base from a player and got twice that from a player in baseball who went six for six and had the greatest day anyone ever had. Shouldn't we be talking about that guy and not wondering whether you can

technically be ambidextrous if you only have one hand and isn't that a better topic of conversation not sure what's more impressive show a hotel doing everything he does or jim abit doing what he did what's more than a tiny show a tiny i disagree with the way it's not no it's not. Look, Jim Abbott is an incredible story.

Also Michigan guy, which is near and dear to my heart. When he was, I believe at Michigan or maybe when he was in the minors, there was a guy on third, the guy tried to steal home against him thinking, this guy only has one hand. I will be able to steal home. Abbott calmly saw him, flipped his glove under his right arm and threw the guy out at home by like 40 feet no one ever tried to steal home on him again that I know of what he did was incredibly threw a no-hitter he was a he was an excellent major league pitcher for a long time only having one hand that's incredible. And he got two hits off of John Lieber. He got two hits off of John Lieber yes

that's correct that is that's it's incredible story. But what Shohei Otani is doing is not only unprecedented in the history of baseball, it's, you could argue is unprecedented in the history of sports in the sense that the records he is beating and the way that he is beating these records is by like a higher percentage than anyone has ever beaten a kind of

all time famous record. He's doing things that like we're, it's at the point where you're just, I feel like we're all just lucky to be alive and watch him play. He has an incredible run in the last four, this is my stat of the day, you want a stat of the day? Yeah, let's get the music ready for him,

but I do wanna just let the public know, and i don't know if this is going to get him in trouble with his bosses because of just the cavernous stupidity in it uh... mike sure is actively telling you that pitching a no-hitter with one hand uh... is not impressive uh... not a very impressive thing obviously very obviously not what i'm saying it's exactly what you're trying to realize that what i would say that publicly that it's not impressive, but let's play the start of the day music start of the day start of the day in this year start of the day Start of the day start of the day in this year start of the day

Start of the day start of the day in this year start of the day Start of the day start of the day in this year start of the day, it is the start of the day. Start of the day, start of the day, it is the start of the day. Yeah. Roy forgot to turn on original sound, so I could barely hear the music. It's on. Didn't come through. All I heard was Poppy's vocal track. Roy forgot to turn on original sound so I could barely hear the music. It's on.

Didn't come through. All I heard was Poppy's vocal track. This is from Optistats. In the last four games, Shohei Otani, 14 hits, 13 RBI, six stolen bases, five home runs. If every Major League Baseball player since 1920, which is when RBI were invented, took the best four game span of his career in each category separately and then combined them into one. Still, no one could match that style line. Hmm.

Wow. Yeah, he's pretty good. Here's a stat. Do it in October. Do it with one hand. Yeah. He's never had the chance to. He's going to play the postseason for the first time. Yeah, it's on hand. Yeah. Mm-hmm. He's never had the chance to.

He's going to play the postseason for the first time. Yeah, it's on him. Yeah, not on the Angels. It is, he's 53-55. There's only one other guy who's ever had in any season 52 homers and in any other season 52 stolen bases. That's Barry Bonds. There's only one guy who's even had 50 home runs and 50 stolen bases in any season.

And that's Brady Anderson, of course, the legendary slugger Brady Anderson. That one year. Shohei's 53-55. He might get to 55-55, which is unthinkable. It's just unthinkable. Here's another thing. Everybody talks about Okununa season last year. This is a popular little counter narrative now that Acuna season last year, 41-73, was actually better.

It's nonsense. It's utter nonsense. In the history of baseball, there have been 367 40-homer seasons. There have only been 49 50-homer seasons. It is orders of magnitude harder to hit 50 home runs in a season than it is to hit 40. And also, by the way, only of those 49 seasons, it's only like 12 or 14 guys who have done it. They just did it multiple times. Hank Aaron never hit 50 in the season. Jim Tomei, I don't believe ever hit 50 in a season. It's incredibly rare to hit 50 homers in a season. And in every season of 50 homers, the most stolen bases before now was 24 by A-Rod and Willie Mays they each did it once

24 is the most stolen bases that anyone had had in a 50 homer season before now he's got 55 stolen bases he's got more than twice as many as the previous record for a 50 homer. How many people have two hits off John Lieber with one hand? How many of those are there? I think one, I think only one. By the way, Tome hit 52. Did he really? Yeah, in one season.

How many stolen bases did he have? It doesn't matter, he hit 52. What was his ERA this season? Two hands, 10 fingers. What was his ERA this season? Two hands, ten fores. The thing about people that size who hit with that power is that they stop stealing bases because it's a silly thing to be doing. Right, right. It's a dumb play for everyone except him. Right, to answer your question, tell him I had one stolen base that year.

There you go. That's a stunner. I want to see highlights of that. I him I had one stolen base that year. There you go. That's a stunner. I wanna see highlights of that. I wanna see the stolen base. The thing about hitting home runs, it also prevents you from being able to steal bases. Right, yes, yes, you're jogging. You're jogging from first to second.

You're not running at top speed. Last night, he had a walk-off grand slam to get to 40-40. He went six for six and had 17 total bases in the game where he got to 50-50 last night He had his 53rd home run to tie the game in the bottom of the ninth inning at Dodger Stadium Before Mookie walked it off like every it's not just that he's doing it He's doing it with like maximum flair Not a whole lot of people are doing single-game war But didn't he have

a better war in one game than Verdugo's had the whole season? This okay two crazy things about the war. Number one he had point seven war in that one game which is mind boggling and here's the craziest part of it it's not the highest war he's ever had in a game because he had a game a couple years ago where he threw six and a third hitting struck out 10 gave up two hits in a run and like went three for three with two homers and had point eight more. So he had seven point seven war in a game. It's not even his best game in terms of his value to his team. And yes, Verdugo has point six for I think as of the other night on the season and show

hey passed him in one game also the entire white sox team for the entire season has negative two point six war so i'll tell you he's vote for the head three that was worth three to have more wins in his team in that one game that everyone in the white sox lineup combined has been for the entire season i can't buy my mind what it is that we're watching, but also is Barry Bonds still someone who owns 10 seasons better than this one for O'Tonning?

There is a way that you can look at Bonds' output, especially obviously to 0304 and say like, oh, he was more valuable to his team. I have what I think is the craziest baseball stat I've ever heard, if you want that as a bonus stat about Bonds. Oh, well hold on a second is the craziest baseball stat I've ever heard. If you want that as a bonus stat about Bonds. The craziest we've ever heard? Wait a minute, Jesus, that's a big build up. Hold on.

A different open. Start of the day, start of the day, start of the day, start of the day, start of the day, start of the day, start of the day, start of the day, start of the day, start of the day, it is the start of the day. Start of the day, start of the day, it is the start of the day. Mike Ryan is done with this segment. He says he'd like for you to go now. Yeah, I'm good. Don't care. We can actually pick this back up next time. Thanks for joining us.

Imagine, if you will, a baseball player who in every single game for the entire season goes two for five with a single and a home run, okay? Every single game. That player ends the year with 162 home runs. Obviously a record. 324 hits. Obviously a record.

That player hits 400 for the season. That player would not have as high an OPS as Barry Bonds had in the year 2004. You know, I just don't believe that. I think that't believe that. I think that's not true. It doesn't make any sense. But that doesn't make sense.

It does not make sense and it's also true. Mike, A Man on the Inside, the new show for Netflix, Ted Danson, he's a mole, he's at a retirement home that's suspected of elder abuse. It's based on a true story. Is this dark comedy? Yes, it is a comedy. And I wouldn't say it's dark. I would say it's emotional, but it's not dark. I mean, suspected of elder abuse?

No, it's suspected of stealing, essentially, technically elder abuse, yes, but stealing jewelry from one of the residents. So a private investigator hires a man to go undercover in the old folks home and investigate the crime ted danson plays that character space on a documentary called the mole agent that was nominated for an oscar a couple years ago it's a wonderful documentary

i recommend everybody watch it and it comes out in november on netflix are you excited is a great do you know when you great? Do you know when your stuff is great? Do you always think it's gonna be great? How does that work for you? I never know how it's going to be received, but I know that I'm proud of it. I think it turned out really well.

Ted is wonderful. The supporting cast is great. Stephanie Beatriz from Brooklyn Nine-Nine is in it, Mary Elizabeth Ellis from It's Always Sunny, and a lot of great, Sally Struthers is in it. Mary Elizabeth Ellis from It's Always Sunny and a lot of great Sally Struthers is in it. Stephen McKinley Henderson who is wonderful. There's a lot of great actors in it. I think it turned out really well

beyond Netflix in November. If you thought it was gonna be bad, would you tell us? Probably not, I guess. I don't know. That's a strange question, is it good? Yeah, that's a strange question. Also Billy, where were you in this baseball conversation? You really let me down.

Were you not in the studio? I wasn't, no. I was prepping. Yeah. Oh, GVF. You gotta fight your way in there when they start talking about baseball. I just need someone in there

to know what they're talking about. See you later, Mike. Nice seeing you again. Sally Struthers, that was a bit of an upset. I have not heard that name a long time she's wonderful she's great uh... she's fantastic at the show uh... would you say she wasn't

would you say if she wasn't yes in this case yes i would tell you i don't believe you know okay again that is mike sure so very brave to be unimpressed by jim abit and all of the things that he did with one hand thank you mike i still do the good of the things that he did with one hand. Thank you, Mike. Stu, who do the Panthers play next week? What do we got? I'm invested now. Whoever they're playing, that team's gonna lose. That team's losing, that team's going down the Red Rifle.

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aforementioned oral history that Mike Schur was making fun of. But Mike, we've got more of that coming out and you just softened us up in the first one. You rubbed our bellies a little bit. You've got the soap opera drama coming up soon. Yeah, episode two gets a little bit more into that. Episode two will highlight the change in ownership for the first time. We've undergone a couple of different regimes and this is the first regime change, but I'm really thrilled with all the feedback that I got. Very helpful. If you also thought that your car hit something

because of that transition sound, please let me know. That was one of the pieces of feedback that I got, so maybe we changed that, but generally positive. And it was nice to have something that was so well received. Also something that was sort of glossed over here Stugats in the last couple of days of insanity because every Monday we come in here and football is so Kingsport that it knocks out a lot of what it is that happened on Saturday. Yes. But Colorado winning that way.

Amazing. When all I want from them Stugats is the content. That is not a very good football team. Weezing and struggling to get past Baylor that way. Needing a Hail Mary. Having a perfectly executed Hail Mary pass. I don't know if that pick in the secondary was on purpose or not, but the way that a Hail Mary

is never open in that situation happened because of the design of the play. And I don't know if those players were meant to collide to each other or not. That's just Pat Schermer ball right there. But it was a perfectly executed Hail Mary. And then Travis Hunter, because they're not any good at defense, ends up causing the fumble at the one yard line and i

just want dion to give us reasons to talk i'd just enjoy that after being one of the worst programs that we've seen in the sport all of a sudden they've got a full stadium in the field good of a hail mary and believing in possibly something hopeful even though i don't think that team is very good. Uh they have two great players. I don't think the team is very good but this is a master class by Dion Sanders in making us care about something and want it more. Something that's average. Like something that's average. He has made us

care about something that is average. I'm not certain it's any good. The two players are great. The team, not certain, but I want to see more. Because of Deion Sanders. We're always talking about Deion, Deion I want to ask you guys a question now that Nick Saban is no longer active. The second most famous coach in that sport is blank. After Deion, obviously. He's the one with all the commercials. It's fairly amazing to see a guy

who won four games last year. But it's a golf. Do you go Clemson there? Do you go Dabo? Dabo probably, yeah. But it's a golf because there are a whole lot of people in the mainstream who wouldn't recognize Dabo in a commercial.

Like Dabo is a college football coach for a college football audience. The fame quotient that Deon brings is unlike anything since Saban. The idea that he was in commercials with Saban was crazy to me even when it was happening. But that's a big difference to Gots between when I say second most famous coach and when I ask you has Deion already done the job that he was hired to do whether or not he wins another football game from here because we're talking we're regularly talking Colorado football for no other reason other than he's there. I would say yes because for some of the reasons I just

said like I don't know if they're very good but man I'd like to see him in the playoff. I think we know they're not very good And I think I think we all I think we know everyone watching knows. Oh, that's not a playoff team That is absolutely not a playoff team I would say he has done his job like he has created excitement about Colorado football And part of the job is to get his son and hunter to the NFL and they are clearly gonna be top five picks in the NFL And so yeah, Deon's done his job. I know it's all about wins and losses for me and Hunter to the NFL and they are clearly going to be top five picks in the NFL and so yeah Deion's done his job. I know it's all about wins and losses for me it usually is

but in this particular case that program which was once great and once proud was so bad for so long and Deion has made them relevant. That's what he's done. You had them showing right before the Hail Mary, Cordell Stewart throwing the pass to Michael Westbrook that was 70 yards, that was about the last time that Colorado mattered in a way that was nationally relevant. This team is not nearly that. Weezing past a bad Baylor team at home, Stugatsen,

needing a Hail Mary to do it, and your defense being so bad that you need Travis Hunter to cause a fumble at the goal line to win the game the thing that's coolest about it I don't want to dampen it is holy shit they've got a field storming in Colorado where everyone feels good about their program even though any objective observer can look at that and say oh that's not Tennessee that's not that, that's not even something that might win more than four games this year. Yeah, but it's cool. Yeah. I'm sure they'll put that in the ring of honor. Remember that time we

rushed the stone, the field against Baylor? That was pretty cool. That's what he was brought there to do. Providing any feel good at all. My, I mean, if you want to move the goalposts to, hey, we're talking about them, cool, I guess. I mean, Jason Kandel won a Mississippi State by like 42 weeks ago. We didn't talk about him. It's just, yeah, we're always going to talk

about Deion Sanders. I actually watch Colorado knowing that those two players are supremely talented, great job getting them. I'm actually worried about Colorado when those guys aren't there because those guys are legitimately the reasons why they are gonna win games based on talent and it hasn't worked out.

Now, Transfer Portal may change everything, but who's behind those guys? Who's next? What is gonna happen to this team when they don't have those guys? You have Deon staying there when those guys leave? No, my hot take is that this is Deon's last year in Colorado. I mean, that's not such a hot take take I think most of us think that he's

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Don Lebatard. If all the raindrops were lemon drops and gum drops, oh what a rain that would be. Stugats. Standing outside with my mouth open wide. Ah ah ah ah ah ah ah ah ah ah ah. If all the raindrops were lemon drops and gum drops, oh what a rain that would be. This is the Don Lebatar show with the Stugats. Gentlemen we have not seen Jay Glazer in a while and listen to this

because he doesn't do a lot of this he said well you can have me on Fridays if you want but Fridays you get you know a little bit of the diluted stuff because then I have to go to air Sunday but if if you get me on Mondays, that's when you get the hot fire. And so there he is, Jay Glazer is with us on Mondays because he's like, he's ready to go. Are you guys fired up or properly fired up? Are you ready for Monday, Jay Glazer? Which is a lot different than Friday, Jay Glazer. This is gonna somehow be better than Friday. This is Monday, Jay Glazer. Yes, of course.. Yeah. Friday Glaze gotta hold back on you. Monday Glaze. Get me in all my glory. Alright. So tell us who got

fired. It's week three. That's enough time. Russell Wilson. It feels like Russell Wilson might have kind of been fired. What happened? What? Explain to me what's happened there. No. So, you know, Russell has a calf injury, which at first I was kind of looking at like, does it really happen? Does he just not want to get beat up by Justin? But no, he actually has a real calf injury, a MRI showed that there was a calf injury in there. But hey, I tell you what though, as Justin Fields gets more and more comfortable with his offense with Arthur Smith, it's going to be hard to pull back. And I do know, here's the thing, I know Mike Tomlin wanted to go with Russell against the Broncos because in Mike's mindset, he's like, as a man, you're going to want to get back

at the team that discarded you. Right? So he's just, I know somebody's, he's going to have to want to do that. But the calf just wasn't healthy enough for him to do it. Well, as this happens, Justin Fields just starts getting more and more comfortable. I think what they were looking for is for Fields to get more comfortable because the thing drill or two minutes in certain situations, almost like this anxiety and he had to just work himself through it. He has now that he's done that he's the type of quarterback that you need for cause Pittsburgh Steelers are different. They're going to run the ball on you, run the ball on you and they're going to just ruin you on defense.

They have a culture of violence with that defense and you know whenever I go around the teams guys I'm a training camp tour, which is you know debauchery Every time there for a day and teams will always ask me what you think I'm like, I don't know what you're working on like You know if we're getting a fighter ready for a fight and we're sparring and week four And we're doing something like if we have a boxer and we're trying to get him to wrestling practice, they're gonna look terrible. So I don't know what you're looking at, but I can tell culture and the Steelers have a culture of violence. They're different. You walked in for a day and you felt the culture of violence.

Oh yeah. Man, they hit unlike, oh yeah, they're different. They're different, the Ravens are different. Eagles have some of it, but a lot of them, a lot of the teams you just, it's kind of like flag football. But these guys, the Steelers, man, it's a street fight in practice. Who's the opposite of that? The Dolphins, the Cowboys, who's the opposite of that?

Kind of everybody else. The Chiefs are actually like that too. You could get you could just feel it. Sometimes you just go you're like, I this is you know, right. I'm watching a regular practice, you know, but there's others where you could tell even like one-on-one pass-off drills man, these guys get after each other. Right. You could tell corners and receivers. They are competitive.

The Steelers are just different Steelers Ravens say Steelers Ravens Eagles and Chiefs are different. Jay, that is quite the wine collection you have behind you. What are we talking in range there? What's the cheapest? What's the most expensive? That's my Caymus wall. Chuck Wagner, the owner of Caymus, one of my best friends to my dude. And he's a great friend I have.

And he's not my friend because he sends me wine, but it is really a great offshoot of our relationship. What is the greatest perk from a friend that you get? Because you've got some good celebrity friendships with Sylvester Stallone, Pacino, The Rock, a ton of them. Like what is the greatest of the perks that comes? Right there. Oh, that's the best one?

That Kamis ball, yeah. I just got another 16 cases last week of this way. Hold on a second. Okay. This right here. This, this Kamis 50 right here. Oh my God. 50th anniversary of Kamis.

It is, oh, it's ridiculous. Yes, it is ridiculous. A sleep with him, he's fantastic. I just got some special selects became his 50. But the rock sends me Terra mono, which I love. I'm a big tequila guy. So I get that. That's pretty cool. What else is some good for Brett Michaels comes to the house and plays guitar for us and sings on Thursday night football. That's pretty cool. That is pretty good. Got my own lap track, my own soundtrack. That's not bad, right? What kind of songs is Bret Michaels playing? I don't imagine him being the acapella on a Thursday night.

No, Henry Rose. He sings Knockin' on Heaven's Door last time. He did Sweet Old Alabama. It's good. It's good. It's good. You know, in commercial break. It's fun. How are you on taste in wines? Are you anywhere close to being a Somali? No, no. I'm a cork dork. I call myself. I used to work for a South African wine company back in the day. In the 90s, when I was broke, when I was making my 9500 bucks a year, we had an inn at a winery called Bellingham. And I was like all in and I was trying to sell wine. So I'd go to like New York One TV. And then I would, you know, for like giant jet hits. And then I would go try and sell wine in New York

and Strahan and Kurt Menafee would show up to like support me. And people would be like, and the wines were like eight bucks. And you would see people like, why is the Giants kid selling us wine? The more you could do when you're broke you know? Jay I imagine you're subject to quite a few vent sessions on Sunday evening during the the network game. Is there one thing that people around the

league were venting more about than others? Was it the general lack of offense in the league or was it that Kansas City gets the benefit of all these calls despite being really loud and obnoxious at one time it didn't go for them? You know what's interesting because I usually I usually don't call my friends when they win. I call all my friends who lose because no one else does and I think that's an effort you should do as a friend is kind of run to them when they're they're hurting, you know, everybody wants to be up their ass when you win. No, usually when teams lose, sometimes you hear about the rest, but more more than not,

they definitely put it on themselves a lot more than you got stick about where they didn't do it right. Or you have the players were just man, they they just whooshed out, they're better than this. They would, we know we gotta make these guys win their one-on-ones and I did get one message yesterday about the Eagles saying, yeah, Nick knows to kick from now on. Except from 61 yards when the game was closed.

There was some bad decision making in that game. Did anyone have the Sam Darnold thing, Jay, before the season? It seems to me the Vikings feel, I know it's just three games, but they feel better than that 13 and four team or whatever that was winning all one score games. No, it's interesting.

We were in our green room yesterday and we had kind of a little thing of, man, if you had quarterback, who would you send them to? And it was either Kevin O'Connell or Matt LaFleur, because look what he's doing with Malik Willis, or Sean McVeigh, who I think Sean McVeigh had a lot to do with Baker Mayfield's turnaround, just that short time he was with him. But who would you give? And it was just those three, obviously, you know, Kyle Shanahan would be great. But then they kind of all came back to Kevin O'Connell. Man, if I had a young, Jimmy Johnson, I think,

said, I think I'd send him to Kevin. Howie said, probably send him a little floor. But it's a pretty good little debate that we had in there. Who would you guys do? If you had a young quarterback, who would you guys? As of a month ago, I think some people would have liked McDaniel, but some, the last game, or every time Tua leaves,

all of a sudden Billy and Chris turn on McDaniel. Right but also again look at McVeigh what he did with Banker Mayfield and they beat somebody that had like 48 points in the game with him. I thought Shanahan was the guy here I thought Shanahan was the one that universally was considered the guy there. And he is yeah look what he's done with Brock Purdy we can't take that away we can't just say yeah, look what he's done with Brock Purdy. We can't take that away. We can't just say, oh, if Brock Purdy, he's done that with Brock Purdy. But Kevin O'Connell, what he did last year with Dobbs, what he did this year with, you know, with Shamed Arnold,

I mean, Kevin O'Connell, and then again, look what, you know, LaFleur has done with Jordan Love and with Malik Willis. Malik Willis came to him and his footwork was awful, his technique was awful and just a couple weeks he's been able to right a lot of the wrongs in his game and certainly take his confidence to the next level. What did you make of Jerry Jones saying we couldn't afford him of Derrick Henry and in general that the Cowboys can't stop the run or run the football? Yeah I didn't understand why they let

Pollard go, why they didn't go after a guy like Derek Henry. I think they could have afforded him. I think they could have turned. Well here's the thing, don't say you're all in and then say that we can't afford something like that. The two don't fit together. I think they don't fit. So I think it was certainly, you know, the way they looked at this year, you know, they didn't really stack the deck for Mike McCarthy. Well, I still think it's done a really good job considering, yeah, they lost a ton of players and obviously losing a guy like Dan Quinn. I think they tried to over confidence themselves. I'm probably not a term obviously, but like, convince themselves,

hey, we lost Dan Quinn, we got Mike Zimmerman, no problem. That's a huge problem. Dan Quinn is as good as they get in this league when it comes to putting square pegs and square holes on defense. And they're kind of wondering right now, man, why can't we stop anybody? That's a huge, huge. And here's the thing. I don't think they're still confident yet in, Zimina is a great defensive coach. I don't think they're fully confident yet in running as defense. What I mean by this is, I'll tell you a story like when the Giants won the shoot ball, straight hands last year, Steve Spagnolo was that coach.

And they lost their first two games. But I think they gave up 50 points in each game, 48, 50 in each of their first two games. And then Stray and I think Antonio Piers had talked with the whole team saying, guys, the scheme is right. We have to believe in it. We can't believe it at 90%.

We've got to go all in. And if we believe in 100%, we'll be in the right place at the right time. And they did, and then their defense took them all the way to the Super Bowl. And I think it's the same thing here with Zim's defense. They know, okay, the scheme, here it is. We have to have confidence that everyone's going to be in the right place at the right time. I just don't think they have that confidence yet. 90 seconds or less here. And we've talked before,

he's the host of the Unbreakable podcast. He's the author of the book, Unbreakable, How I Turn My Depression and Anxiety into Motivation, and you can too. Your thoughts on Adrian Wojnarowski, Woj deciding out of nowhere to retire. Oh, you and I have talked about it, man. This job is, it does a lot to your life.

And you know, you and I have both talked about trying to compartment, this job is, it does a lot to your life. And you know, you and I both talked about trying to compartmentalize for our mental health in this. And I actually, I was texting with Woods the other day and just saying, ma'am, so happy for you that you went out on your terms. But I want people to understand this job. It has ruined every relationship I've ever had until now. I just got married and made my beautiful Rosie. I would be on dates with women and have a earpiece in and act like we're talking sweet nothings when I'm really talking to sources. You can't have a relationship. I'd be at my kid's soccer game, refereeing when he's eight years old, on the phone trying to get stoops. This job is not conducive to having any sort of relationship or

any other life. And then you have the pressure where the job has changed, where I'd like to break huge bombs also myself, right? They call them Wode's bombs. We used to call them Glazer's. And now it's the moment you break something, who could tweet out faster or more or get more people to tweet for you? And that's not what we signed up for. Wode's didn't sign up for it.

I didn't sign up for it. Shode's didn't sign up for it, I didn't sign up for it, Shepter didn't sign up for it. We signed a break story, it's not for it to all get stolen in 15 seconds. So the job is different than it used to be. That's where now I just try and focus on dropping the biggest news I can on Sundays. And then you see it there and you know it hasn't been stolen.

But the jobs, it's changed. And there's a lot of pressure in this job. What do people realize? It is nice to see you again, insider for Fox NFL Sundays. He'll be on with us throughout the season again, host of the Unbreakable podcast and the author of the book, Unbreakable, How I Turn My Depression and Anxiety into Motivation

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