The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 2: The Donald Trump Interviews (Part 4)

Episode Date: July 4, 2025

This show may have had the final radio interview with Donald Trump before he announced his first run for the presidency of the United States, and we even asked him about it. He planted the seeds in our first couple of interviews, and they began to sprout in this interview on May 27, 2015, just 20 days before Trump announced his candidacy for POTUS. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Show with Stu gots with the then reality TV show star and real estate mogul Donald Trump now we are moving on to an interview from May 27th 2015 which means this was just 20 days before Donald Trump would announce his first run for the presidency of the United States. MSNBC's Pablo Torre was sitting in with Dan and Stu Gotz that day, which makes this all the funnier, as Dan and Stu grill Donald Trump about Deflategate because of his friendship with Tom Brady and

quote terrific person Bob Kraft and Bill Belichick. Why Tom Brady should have sued the NFL? He also detailed being billions of dollars in, which surely wouldn't be an issue for a guy running for president, right? Who was he in debt to? Surely it couldn't be the folks in Moscow that he was talking about in the local hour, right? That tie doesn't matter.

But no joke, we're 20 days from that declaration that he'd run for president and Stu Gotts asked him if he would. And this is the first time maybe anyone would hear the phrase. I will make this country great again. It is so wild to listen to what Trump has to say in this interview about China and more specifically Mexico and America's relationship with Mexico considering where we are now 10 years later with mass deportation and the jailing of immigrants in a place called Alligator Alcatraz in the middle of the

Everglades where the response is yeah you know if migrants escape and they get eaten by wildlife isn't that kind of the point and there's so much in here that will really blow your mind considering where things went what what a weird 4th of July this is huh anyway here's here's the final interview on the Dan LeBattard Show with Stu Gotts with President Donald Trump 20 days before he would announce his first run for the presidency. And Chris Cody, I have to thank you once again for putting me in this position to not only have to listen to all of these interviews and

me in this position to not only have to listen to all of these interviews and swallow the reality of what they were, but to guide our audience through it. Thank you so much, Chris. This has just been the time of my life, exactly how I wanted to spend my Fourth of July. Alright folks, here's the final interview. And hopefully I'll never have to listen to any of this again. Jeremy, you know something about me, right? You know when I'm grilling outside and it's summertime, you know how I supplement my summertime?

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I want to get to some truths here with you, if I may. Pablo Torre in with us all show today. Is it true that Donald Trump has never in his life used an ATM? Well I haven't used too many of them, but I do love the concept. And you know, we're going to have to be a little bit careful. A lot of money is being taken out of different forms of computerization. I think someday we're going to have to go back to the old days,

you know, the old way. But no, I'm not big on them, but I have used them, yes. How often does someone try to steal Donald Trump's identity? That must happen all the time, right? You are probably the subject of identity theft all the time I'm hearing it does we deal with it harshly like you guys would deal with it we deal with it very very harshly but it's happening to me and it happens to many people how many times a week no doubt about how many times a week does that happen to Donald Trump well I'm not

sure about a week but it does. There's no question about it Donald Trump with us here on ESPN radio. Who is your best famous friend like among your famous friends? I'm giving you the opportunity you've waited for all your life here Trump to just name-drop all of your friends And so I'm wondering who is your best of your famous friends? You know what people don't know about me I have a lot of friends. I have a lot of good friends and uh... that's not my image but i actually have people that do like me which is a little hard to believe well i have a lot of people in the sports world bob craft is a friend coach bellichek is a friend tom brady is a friend and by the way tom brady is a great guy

and uh... i hope that all works out of the hope it works out well and soon but tom brady is a global and so i don't experience if these are your best friends how did you experience the flight date like if if brady i did experience it and i go along with tom and you know a lot of people questioning whether or not they were actually measured properly and there's a lot of different things can go on but i can only tell you this tom brady is an honorable guy is an honest guy and he's a really good guy i play golf with tom brady and if he played

this i've won a lot of club championships over the years i can tell you if he played he would be a phenomenal he played more he would be he's got tremendous golf talent i'm sure you're not surprised to hear that because you know it's great at one of the time you got to know you tell someone's a great golfer i don't care whether he's a great golfer or not. I do, I do Donald, I do. Is Gadel a friend?

I know him well, I like him a lot. He's had a rough year, there's no question about it, but I think he's a terrific person. He's a very good man. Good golfer? I don't know him as a golfer. Oh wow, Donald Trump, finally we've cornered Donald Trump. But I'm just curious, as you've seen Deflategate play out in the press, I'm curious if you're friends with Belichick and Bob Kraft, like Bob Kraft, that was a hugely humbling thing that he had to experience where

he goes from the NFL is going to owe me an apology soon to never mind, I'm going to run away with my tails between my legs. Well, I was surprised that he did it and personally I would have never done it in a million years I would not have done what he did. I was very surprised that he took the punishment without an appeal. I think you're always better off appealing because if you appeal you're gonna get something out of it that even if it's not much you're gonna get something so there must have been tremendous pressure I mean I know bob well and

he's a terrific person and uh... he's got a he's been a great team owner if you think about it with you know not too much uh... drama he's just taking that team and they've done a great job for many years now it helps when you have bellacheck and it helps when you have brady but he's been a very good team or i was very surprised when he didn't take an appeal actually trump you mean not much drama outside of the giant cheating scandals

well though there's a scandal going now but i'm saying up to this point certainly there hasn't been for somebody that's been at the top of the heap for so long i think there's been very little drama now this is you know cause a little bit of drama and they've had a couple of things with has been some drama but if you think about it they've done really well lots of super bowl lots of everything else they've been in lots of super balls at two super bowls that could have been one

they could add five but uh... you know i i think there's been a lack of drama for for somebody that's been in that position which i give a lot of credit for i think bob craft has been a great honor donald i'm curious is there a and have it is there a story of somebody from sports asking you for advice and you recall a notable piece of advice you gave to somebody in the world of athletics

well i get it all the time i mean you talk about the flake a day talk about those folks and uh... you know frankly i think tom brady should see the nfl for two hundred and fifty million dollars in settle for nothing and you know get out of this thing but you know i can but i get it all the time i get a lot of people now what he Johnson of the jet is a terrific guy to friend of mine and and the case family are friends of mine and i have a lot of friends in sports uh... fred will ponder the sign for the fact i know more on the role you have a lot of great in sports uh... fred will ponder the sign brenton fact i know more on the role you have a lot of great people in sports i just got back

from the united states golf association with jack nicklaus is a good friend of mine was being honored you know who's better than jacket the world of golf and you know that from from anything but they just donated or just just opened a wing uh... to jack nicklaus a wing of the museum to Jack Nicklaus and he really deserves it.

So, you know, I have so many friends in sports. People in sports are amazing people, they're great people. Hold on a second, what did you suggest? You said Tom Brady should sue for $250 million? No, I'm not saying I suggest it. I say I think I would have sued the NFL. I would have gotten myself a really nice lawyer. I would have called Trump and said, give me a good lawyer. And I would have if do the nfl i would have gotten myself a really nice lawyer that i would have called trump and said give me a good lawyer

and uh... i would have if i were tom because you know they have a situation that even though whether the balls were inflated properly not inflated nobody knows i mean the referees really blew it you want to know the truth but i would say that i would sue the nfl for a tremendous amount of money and probably somewhere down the line you'll settle i think tom is the kind of guy that would like to see it over with he wants to get back to winning super bowls

and he's a fantastic guy it is a fantastic water back so i understand that do i think i would have taken a different i would have brought a lawsuit against the nfl for about two hundred fifty million right out of curiosity we take a couple of minutes as a giver take a couple of it what is the last time donald Trump found himself in a in a position where he simply did not have? Cash to pay for something where you were in a place and you forgot your wallet or you just simply didn't you couldn't pay for something? Well, I mean I could tell you years ago when the market crashed I was in deep trouble of friends of mine and then enemies of mine also were going bankrupt i never did

but i i i had billions and billions of dollars that i was in deep trouble and i fought it out and uh... now my company's much bigger much stronger than ever before but i had you know many people in the real estate industry and a lot of other industries are going out of business and i thought like hell you learn a lot about yourself in bad times i will tell you that you know you learn if you can take it or not but it's like sports I mean sports is amazing because it's sort of a mini version of life and you would just watch and you just see that but I owed

billions of dollars explain to us that explain to us going to bed at night knowing hey I'm gonna wake up in the morning billions of dollars in the hole like what is that what does that one feel? Well, see, I view it differently. The banks have problems. That's what I say to myself, okay? I say, boy, do those banks have problems. Now, somebody else with the wrong attitude would say,

maybe they have a problem. But I view it as the people that have the money maybe have a problem. So, and I say that a little bit laughingly and a little sarcastically, but it worked out amazingly well. And know many many people you know that a many many people went out of business i mean there was a terrible recession uh... five six seven years ago there was a terrible recession in the early

nineties in the early nineties was brutal and i came out very strong and this last one it was the opposite it was it i was so strong going into the dead i loved it because i but a lot of stuff you know just what the great turnberry of scotland the numbers which is one of the great places that's where they have been the open championship

i bought the rail in miami hundreds of acres of land right in the middle of miami and uh... but that about four years ago and we did it and it's now just about the number one resort in the middle of Miami and I bought that about four years ago and redid it and it's now just about the number one resort in the country and you know it's called Trump National derail so we have a lot of fun with this stuff I'm building a hotel on Pennsylvania Avenue right opposite the White House force the old post office building best location in Washington DC and I have a lot of fun but people do they call me they want advice for different things and I like

to give it to them if I like themald do me a favor break news right here on this show on the sbn radio don't wait till june are you running for are you running for office are you running for president looking at it very seriously fellows about the way you guys have a great show that's why i'm doing it but i i think you have a great show i watch a lot but i am thinking about it very very seriously and uh... the country's in trouble with being left that by everybody china's taking our jobs, they're taking our manufacturing, they're loaning us the money, they're taking our money, and then they loan it back to us. We owe China now

1.3 trillion dollars. Can you believe trillion? 1.3 trillion dollars. Mexico is not our friend. Mexico is doing a number on us, not only at the border, but they're doing a number economically. They're taking our jobs like crazy crazy for just announced a two and a half billion dollar plant in Mexico I am looking at it very seriously and I'll be announcing in June and I think a lot of people are going to be very very surprised one thing I will tell you if I decide to do it and if I win I will make this country great again because our country is run by people that don't have a clue and our country really i mean it's run by politicians and a

politician and i've said it for a long time nobody knows him better than me they're all talk they're no action and this country's in trouble our country is in trouble so wait we're not friends with mexico are moving on here's lisa lambert i think and the reason is that people are outsmarting our people. Here's... Oh, look, Mexico's fine. But their people are outsmarting our people at every cross. This might damage your presidential campaign, this comment from Lisa Lampanelli.

Donald, tonight people will make fun of your looks. F*** them. You've always gotten beautiful women. You've ruined more models models lives than bulimia you've disappointed more women than sex in the city to that from the comedy central roast uh... your only that lead to a great use of the ad you know she was on the apprentice that you did a great job but he was terrific

what kind of common is that are you not going to work in a city was that you know the show has been such a big success the apprentice and celebrity apprentice but it's been such a tremendous success and and uh... you know who would have thought this was going to happen to me right so i have a show and you know there's been fifteen copies of the apprentice fifteen and he many of your friends have copied of people that you know very well in the world of sports it copied it and every one of them have failed and failed badly and so you know I'm just honored

by the great success of that show but now I'm on to something you know NBC wants very much to renew it they've already announced we're renewing it as soon as Donald is ready but I told them I have something that I'm doing that's very important even important even important to you guys all right but we've got to go, unfortunately. We don't have time to hear about that right now. That's OK. Thank you.

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