The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 2: The God of Sod Pt. II

Episode Date: September 14, 2023

The God of Sod, George Toma, joins us once again to discuss the pressing issues with grass and turf in the NFL in the aftermath of Aaron Rodgers' injury. Then, it's time for a freshly revamped and shirtless Tony's Top 5 before Ricky Williams joins us to discuss not drinking water, Aaron Rodgers, time management, and Uranus. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Subscribe today at publicmobile.ca different is calling This is the Dunlambator Show with this two-guts podcast! There he is in all of his glory, Sui Award winner George Tomah, the sod father, the lord of law, and the god of grass. It is in the news right now. In the wake of the Aaron Rogers injury, the new head of the NFL players union on Wednesday

called for the elimination of all turf fields, league wide, calling it, quote, the easiest decision the league can make. An hour and a half later, Roger Gadell went on first take and said this. In many cases, but you also have other players who like playing on a turf field because it's faster. That's true. So you've

got, you know, you've got a mixed opinions of what we want to go is on science. We want to go on what's the best from an injury standpoint to prevent the injuries to give our players the best, best possible surface to play on.

And that's, that can't be done by my feeling of looking at a particular injury. It's gotta be done with a real process. And to look at it with medical experts, look at it with engineers, look at it with people on the cleats, look at it on every aspect of what can go into that injury, including the training and where a particular player is in any given time.

So all those factors go into play and that's where we make decisions on the basis of science, not because I see an injury that I don't like. Ultimately, I want our experts to come back and give it to us. There is no greater expert than this man right here. He is the God of all turf. George, thank you. God of side. That's right. Thank you for joining us. So just give us your overall view of what's happening right now with this controversy, George.

And thank you again for making the time again. Well, actually, I'm 94 years old, and I've been in this game for 81 years. So I've seen a lot of grass. But the NFL on playing fields went downhill. 17 years ago when Roger Gidell took over. Whoa. Me and Roger Gidell were excellent friends. He took care of me.

What a great guy he was. But in those last 17 years, maybe 12 times we had bad play feels. Under Troy Vincent, in his 10 years, six times we had bad playing feels. And nothing was done about him. and the problem started at Super Bowl 56 on a practice field for the bangles where we told the league the fields not ready is not that but they were not to practice and after practice they had a mean they said they couldn't practice on that field because it was unsafe. The players were slipping and falling and doing everything. The coach said he has to go to artificial turf practice. And I said coach, just wait here two minutes. I went and got Travis

Hogan and Andy Levy and other NFL ground keepers and I told the coach to tell them your problem. He said we can't practice on this field. So I'm gonna get hurt. We're going to have to go to the artificial turf field, but I don't want to go there because it's hard and it's hot. I says coach, wait here two minutes. I went and got Travis Hogan and they made me another NFL ground keepers and says coach, tell me your problem. He told him their his problem. I says coach, I'm 93 years old and I've been in this game 80 years and being this game in I've been around the world and had a lot of problems fixed. And this is Travis Hogan, the ground keeper for the chief who is my 81 years as a best ground keeper I've ever seen. And then they've even all his voice. I says, Coach, we'll put all our expertise together and we'll

have this be already for you tomorrow to practice on. And we did. And then that Saturday after last practice, coaches hug me. I said, don't hug me. Hold the hug those boys. But after that, they never fixed the fields. They mean, there's problems all over all the time. I mean, last year at the Super Bowl, when I got out there I said this field can't be played on the sod was excellent But the state of the sod being laid on a pool table was laid on the plowed-up sod farm humps and bumps and The two practice fields for practice fields couldn't be played on

Because they were all a bunch and humps and things. George George George, we covered this with you last time you were on with us and you were very strong. We hate Eddie Mangan. We are so down on Eddie Mangan and we know that you have some problems with this, but we need your expertise because the Super Bowl was a disaster and it's not your fault. You were embarrassed by it and you tried to do everything you could to prevent it. Right. You just said that the fields have gone to shit under Gidele for 17 years. And I want to hold your feet to the fire here.

Artificial turf. Dangerous for the players. More dangerous. Yes or no? Well, it's who maintains it and how you maintain it. It was up to you and the team, but you have to maintain artificial turf that you like to do grass, but grass is better for the players. And I'll just say something now that this past year was a bad year for the NFL on grass. They had a bad game field, practice field,

but they also had bad grass in Germany and bad grass in Texas. In our shop talk Eddie Mangus said the grass in Germany was trash. And the way he put it, he says the grass in Germany was like trash, like Wayne Lord is trash. Wayne Lord is a ground keeper for the Tampa Bay, and he hates him. And then, so, and from other sources, they said the field in Germany was bad, plus from other sources the field in Texas was bad.

But bringing this up with Roger Gidell, it didn't help. I'm in their little depression because for the last two years now, Roger Gidell hasn't talked to me. I mean, I didn't murder anybody. If you murder somebody they still talk to you, but this put me in a depression. I'm fighting for a safe playing field and the last few years they didn't. And in my book they don't care, but Roger and I, Goodell was close, but when I But Roger and I get there was close, but when I told him that a trite vence is not doing the job in his last 10 years there,

and the league's not doing this half safe playing field, and he just blew me off. But here, not the top to me in two years or go over the situation, that's bullshit. It is bullshit, I agree with you. So the NFL has both a goal, a grass problem and a Roger Gidell problem it sounds like. Roger Gidell, I was close, but when I think he got mad at me when I said, Troy Vincent didn't do the job. When he first took over the job, he was in Canton, Ohio, and the bad artificial turf, the logo they had a cancel again. The

next day when on TV and says, I'm new on this job, and this will never happen again. But it did happen again. They went to Mexico Council. And then the last 10 years, six times, it feel was bad. Did he ever talk to me? No, I don't even know what the guy looks like. But see, how does he get together? George, what's going on?

Like, how are you getting boxed out? You've been working eight decades with grass. Well, they just don't give a damn, you know, they have to get together. And I would like to talk to Roger Gideau, but I said this in many interviews across the country and the world. I said the only way this will get settled. If I, George P. Tomas, can meet with the players union, the owners, the cultures, and the Evernance CAA that play on these fields, and get all these people to get and let me talk to them and tell me what the problems were and I could help them to leave you this problem. But you think that will ever happen? No, because all these things happen.

It needs to happen. It needs to happen. They're scared. Put it on the pole at Labatard Show. Does George P. Tomon need to get a meeting with the owners, the players, the coaches, and the NCAA. And O.P. Yes. And everybody, George, we love you.

You're right. Close us out here. Punctuate the segment. Okay. One thing I like to say, if they don't do it, we have to take it to the government. Yes. Yes. Yes.

We have to take it to the government because of the plea for playing conditions and they don't give it down. For tobercow. Yes. The players, George, they're injuring them because they don't give it down, then. They don't. They don't give it down. But the only one that's going to is George P. Tom will have in the meeting and if they don't listen We go to the government and let the government Years and Roger I don't know why you hate me for the last two years you haven't talked to me We could or such good for We could have settled this problem years ago. Right, but just like a troy Vincent, don't care have a bad playing field and I saved

this Fanny and sometimes they didn't give a damn like the Super Bowl 50 where the field was bad. And I say and people say it was sabotage. And who cares, but who cared when you're he had an ed your part of man to investigate this because he was so perturbed, given was played on his field. And set it straight out. What everybody know that they screwed it up and they didn't give a damn and it could have been sabotage. But again, again, we have, if they don't listen to me, but I can straighten them out.

And I think the only way is take these people to the government and have bad working conditions. And they are and all prove it. He will prove it. Put her on the pole, Judy. Was it sabotage and also put on the pole? Did George P. Thomas save Troy Vincent's fanning? Thank you, George. We appreciate it, sir. Always good catching up with you. We will talk to you again. We love you. Well, thank you to everybody and all those fans out there may all your good fortunes be as numerous as blades of grass. Yep. But remember, it'd be natural grass as the natural grass field is at The perfect fall lineup is here at Starbucks. Choose from a fall star team of delicious flavors. Like the classic pumpkin spice latte. The nostalgic iced apple crisp oat shake and espresso, or the new fan-fave iced pumpkin cream chai tea latte.

So cozy up with Starbucks, the home of fall flavors, because nothing beats the first sip of fall. Order yours with the Starbucks app. Don Lebertard! Earlier in the show, the question was asked, what would you do got to do with one invisible day? Stu got one day where he could be invisible. We decided that during banking hours, he would choose a week day, he would rob all the

banks in the universe from eight to five. And then at night, he would alter sporting event results by being an invisible man in games he had bet on. This is the down lebertar show with this two gods. So on one side I mean I've got this person writing in. I've been listening to the show for a long time and the lower yesterday made me feel sick. Giving someone like David Samson a platform to say stuff like that feels gross and our collective outrage is doing nothing but spreading it. Gonna be taking a break from this show for a while. Ditch that guy, save the whales, pay the teachers. Then another person writes in on the totally opposite side,

I think you guys misunderstood what Samson was saying about the unemployment topic. The crew jumping on him without really understanding what he's saying and then treating him like shit, honestly annoys the F out of me. Levitard show be better guys. So everyone's upset about the segment, but for different reasons. That is par for the course around here. Yes, they are mad, but mostly they're mad at David Samson. This is the one instance.

Usually when I argue on behalf of labor and sports, not popular, but this is the one instance usually when I argue on behalf of labor in sports, not popular, but this is the one instance when it's David Samson on behalf of billionaire CEOs in the face of corporate greed. This is the place where the majority of people do indeed rise up and say, I'm labor. I want to stand with labor. David's not the best representation on the other side of it. If you've got a guy who's a stepson of an owner of a team who got to work in the front office of that team, working from home, sitting in a baseball glove,

probably not the best go-work flavor. It's a pretty expensive baseball glove, doesn't it? It takes care. Yeah, it is crazy because in a weird MacAvellian style, I can see Dan while you keep him around. You spend an entire career talking about sticking up labor and why does everyone sigh with these billionaires? And everyone's like, shut up, Levitard,

I just want my sports. And then you bring David Simpson and everyone's like, I see your point, Levitard, these guys suck. But it's not that. It's, I hate both of you, I'm leaving now. Oh yeah. That's what ends up happening.

So, in an effort to get back some of the audience, we are going to go to the most craven and overt of things. Sex sells, it is something that people are willing to tolerate with their sports, unlike politics. And so Tony, after a European vacation, three weeks he was gone, and he has returned, and he has a top five observations that I've been dying for since Monday.

But last year, Mike, you're the producer of this show, I felt like the top five needed something more than just Tony's opinion. We got plenty of people all over the world talking to microphones right now about football. It needed something. So I asked Tony, can you make it sexier? Can you put some sparkle on it? So let's find Tony the video department has finally gotten up and running and here is Tony and where are you joining us from here? Tony

What is it that you're up to I didn't ask for you to be shirtless, but I appreciate that you all said you wanted it sex here, Dan I did yeah, you wanted sex here, Dan I'm here at the iron temple like I usually am every day and I'm excited to bring. I'm here at the Iron Temple. Like I usually am every day. And I'm excited to bring you. I'm doing obviously chest right here at the chest day. You're gonna be very tired by the end. It's high five. All right, you're gonna be very tired by the end of this

if you're starting, although it doesn't look like there's much weight on that. There's nothing on it. Come on. Yeah, that's at least 400. I know that's 400. It's a 35. Throw another pair of 45s on here. All right, Let's read are we ready? Do we have his music?

Ready? We're ready. Let's go. All right. I think music. Yes. Hey. Yes. Let's help him out here. That's right. Hey Sponsored as always by the, capitulators and everybody in between. I'm also happy to announce. Yes. Hold on, Dan. Sorry. Tony's top five is also partnering with Coach Prime and the color out of both of those. We're also sponsored by the haters. I'm limited budget for them by the way, it's crazy. His hand is barely touching my head. Let me switch arms real quick. Here we go.

Number five. You heard it here first. Lions are winning the division. Woo! But I also like what the Packers did. And the Vikings are still good, even though if they lose the Tampa Bay and possibly tonight to the Eagles Also don't sleep on the bears The NFC North is good guys are to tell you that you sure you're positive

Yeah, yes, I after week one. Yes All right number four Keep an eye on Sam how Special throw Special throw to Brian Robinson Junior That game was so hard to watch. Arizona's terrible. Arizona was winning all games. Sam Howell threw for 200 yards.

Keep an eye on Sam Howell. Keep an eye, Dan. Do you saw the special throw though, right? I saw the North Carolina, and I liked him at North Carolina. But that wasn't the game to think he's special. It was a special throw though. Number three. Number three. Number three.

Look at this workout. Wait a minute, you're not using your arms anymore. How are you pushing that up? What are you pushing that up with? Scoot it up a little bit on the bench and it'll be a really funny visual there you go with your yeah I don't want to overreact Mike McDaniel coach of the year imagine if he had a real quarterback hold on say that slower say that again

oh yeah all right Mike McDaniel coach of the year Oh, I imagine if he had a real quarterback hold on say that slower say that again Yeah, all right Mike McDaniel coach of the year Were you rubbing your freckin? I mean maybe feel great man for a blow Number two So that's what Tom decided to wear huh Is they literally little Jersey? Like, he didn't need the official one that you took into the pads. To me, like the 4XL one we used to wear back in the day.

That was crazy. That was a bad one. Also, don't look now. I just felt a pulse on Mac Jones' career. What? A little bit of a pulse. So that's false. But it's there.

So that also though, was that number one? And that was just a bonus number two. That was a bonus extra number two double patriot observation. Nice. Double P. Whoa. Number one. a observation nice Whoa, number one So the giants, oh how much money to Daniel Jones? The bar is moving up that for me. I think it's $170.

That bar is moving a lot slower than it was. Yeah, what happened? What's happening to your Daniel Jones? He's moving a little bit more centrally now. Yeah, Daniel Jones a little bit more centrally now Dan listen, we have one thing to say as Cubans about Brian Dable are you ready for it? Yes Got a last a call as a total one in the pelagasa Say hello your likeosa That was Tony's top five.

Yeah, it's true. Back, better than ever. Yeah. It is. That was awesome. Yeah, he is as strong. That was very, very strong. Thank you for all of your work.

A fripple was rubbed there when he said that Mike McDaniel, Coach of the Year, Chris Cody, there were a couple of things that I wanted to talk to you about, but one of them was you had a great paranoia before the show at the Stefan Dig story and a reporter being caught on a hot mic saying something about Stefan Digs that was, you know, basically calling him a jerk. What was happening with you? Were you just having the paranoia about it specifically? Something could have happened to you here? Yeah, I was at Dolphins practice a few weeks ago talking to Josh Appell, and I'm just like,

it got me thinking, what was I saying at that press conference? I mean, me, it's just talking about how Vic Fangio looks like an Italian pizza owner. But that's, so that, that would actually be funny if that's what got out there. If the story was reporter in Miami, Levitar Joe producer bad mouthing Vic Fangio, saying he looks like a pizza owner. I can only imagine how many of the local writers were having this panic though, because I've been at that dolphins presser a few times, and I feel like the worst things that ever get said about the people who were coming

in to speak happen about 10 seconds before they walk in. So if you've got hot nights, they're running late. You're like, all right, what's up? What's up? What's up? Yeah, exactly. Oh, diva. Oh, man.

This person I'd like to talk to us is terrible. I did think interesting about week one of the dolphin enthusiasm is we did sort of skip past the whole idea that Lord Feng's defense didn't look great until that last drive. Timely stopped, Dano. Did it when he counted? W. Going up against Kellin Moore, hey, hey. I'll look a lot better against the Patriots.

Mac Jones has a pulse now, though. Yeah, he has a pulse. I'm worried about it. Look at Chris Cody. Not me. Chris Cody's cocky now. Cocky, Dolphin, Sam. You're now. You're now cocky. Cocky, Dolphin Sand. You're now after one game. You're now cocky Dolphin fan.

After last year, you moved your allegiances over to Justin Herbert publicly. And now it was a bit. It felt real. Come on. It still have the baby. This is year two though. Year one is like, I'm happy to be here, right?

Year two is F you. We're here. Well, year two with a game one win. I don't know that he would be exactly there, even if the dolphins had lost because somehow Herbert had one drive at the end to score a field goal. I think we'd still be talking about Jason Sanders and the Mist extra point. That's what we'd be doing. Now streaming on Paramount Plus.

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If someone takes a foul ball to the penis, we should just say he took a foul ball to the penis. Say it. Stugats. That freaky kid I'm writing like, cock a doodle do. This is the Don Lebatar Show with this two gods. 20-ish. I'm just gonna give you my take. Not a fan. I love it. I always love more time because I just means they're gonna be later than they said they're gonna be. So we want late is what we're going for. Yeah, I like late. I like big. He has no issues with punctual issues. He has no issues. Yes, he because he likes being late. He's rarely on time.

Although you've probably gotten better at that as you've become an adult. No. Wait, wait, wait, wait. Although you've probably gotten better at that as you've become an adult, no? Wait, wait, wait, wait. So, so this idea of late and on time is a man made construct. Thank you. We show up when we show up. Great. It's true.

I'm with true. Yeah. Chris Cody had another controversial take other than his issues take. He isn't someone who's a fan of the Uber water bottles. Well, it's just who drinks them. I'm looking around at everybody in here, and I mean raising his hand, so I guess you have, but I don't know anybody who would ever drink these water.

You want this room temp water that's been in this car for four weeks? I love room temp water. You drink the water. I drink the water, unless I have my own water. That's one way to get to death So you don't know what whoever driving his car been being with his water. You feel me? That might be poison water No, it's it's sealed. I'm not I'm not drinking open water

I'm drinking sealed man. It makes that click sound when you open it No, but it's been in the sun for four weeks though. All the plastic is going into the water Ricky's not drinking that water Ricky. You're not drinking that water. Ricky, you're not drinking that water. I don't, I typically don't drink water period. What? What? What? I'm typically not drinking the uber water.

What do you mean you don't drink water, period? Put it on the pole, Juju, please. Is the bottled water in the uber a one-way ticket to death? What do you drink, Ricky, if you're not drinking water? Do you eliminate? No! Ha! What do you drink, Ricky, if you're not drinking water? I drink lemonade. Just constant sugar or natural lemonade, water. There's some sugar and there's some sugar in the lemonade. Otherwise, it's too sour.

It's not a ton of sugar, but it's just enough. Ricky, so you wake up in the middle of the night. You're really thirsty. Dry mouth. You go to your fridge and drink some lemonade? Yep, and there's not lemonade, there's usually some apple juice, but I prefer lemonade.

And sometimes I put a little peach tea to make an aromatherer, but mainly it's just lemonade. I'm shocked, I don't know why I would've thought Ricky Williams was like, mainlining water. I would've thought holistic water as well. That is something I did not know. That is the most annoying thing.

I mean, there's so many people out there, and probably there's a bunch in the room, but water people, I'm just saying, man, I don't get it. What do you mean water people? Water is good for you. That's what you've been conditioned to believe. Oh, Christ man. Like what research, what, read no seriously,

what research have you done to validate that water is good free 70% of your body is what this might be the hottest take in the history of the show I don't I don't even understand where you're headed with this I thought we all agreed that water drinking water is good for you it's an assessment okay okay so there's water in lemonade. Yeah, but also sugar. There's also a lot of sugar. If all you're drinking is sugar water, that's less good for you than just water.

Okay, so when did you become the dietary disease? Oh, that has been late. Well, I mean, at least to say that each of us, we can acknowledge that we all need water, but each of us have different needs of water. Some people naturally retain water, so they don't need to drink as much. Some people don't, so they need to drink more. All I'm saying is there's personal preferences, and we get into these generalizations about what's healthy and what's not, it's just a way to torture ourselves.

So you're saying that you need water less than a normal person? That's exactly what I'm saying. Oh, I love it. Put it on the pole, please, Juju. When did Dan become the dietary police? Yes or no? I wanted to talk to you about Aaron Rogers. I wanted to talk to you about Aaron Rodgers' astrological chart.

So start with what happened this week. I do believe this is fair criticism of us, the person who wrote in, then talking about how first take to humanizes athletes right after having a segment about the funniest things about Aaron Rodgers' injury is highly ironic. Tushae, you got me. What are your thoughts on what happened with Aaron Rodgers' rickie? Oh, man, like for an astrologer,

this is, I guess it's dehumanizing, but this is like what we get excited about because we get to test our principles. You know, and I've always said that every football team because of the injuries and how much of an impact they make on the game, needs to have an astrologer to be able to give you a sense of when someone is more likely to have some kind of accident, because that's essentially what an injury is. From an astrological perspective, our training is accidents typically are triggered by two planets, Mars and Uranus.

Mars is the God of War, so that one's kind of obvious. Mars has to do with surgeries, blood, things that tend to happen when you go to war, or play a rough sport. And then your honest is about things that are shocking, things that are surprising. And so when you put them together, you get accidents. And when I looked at Aaron Rogers chart, and there is a birth time online, which makes it wonderful for us astrologers, he was going through his Mars return, which means

the Mars moving through the sky was exactly the same place as Mars was when he was born. And this is something, anyone in his chart is online. Anyone can go up online and figure out how to look at where the planets were on the day the accident occurred. And you're gonna see Mars is the same degree it was when he was born. Okay, can't make that up, right?

And now looking for your honest, okay? When this happened, your honest was at 22 degrees tors, okay? Aaron Rogers, mid-heaven and the mid-heaven in astrology, it's the house where we look for fame. So if someone is famous, we would want to look for stimulation to the mid-heaven to see when something was going to affect their fame, their popularity, okay? The planet Uranus activating the tent house. So that would tell us something potentially shocking going on with the Mars simulation, right? It could be a victory, right?

It could be coming from behind or it could be an injury. And what we have in this situation is we have a shocking, surprising injury, right? And in my advice, because I get to be the astrologer, I don't have to care what other people think. And to me, this situation feels almost the same as when I retired for a year. You know, you can argue it's a little bit different

because I felt a drug test and all that other stuff, but it's the same end result, a year off, right? And someone in, you know, embarrassing manner, Okay? And so my advice, and I kind of thought this last year was like, what is he still playing for? And the chart indicates, you know, it would have been a really good time to retire and start something new. Then may I just say, pull question? Do you pronounce it your anus or your honest? Because I've never heard his pronounce your honest before. Your anus answer, but g Because I've never heard of pronounced your honest before. Your anus answer about gumpo.

Rick, you could answer that question. Go ahead and answer that question first, because you're not, I mean, it's not the first to ask it. Go ahead and answer that first. Well, so the nature of this planet is that it forces you to be different or original. And so even when you're saying the word, the name of the planet, it forces you to take a stance. How am I gonna say it? What are people gonna think? So you can say your A-S, you can say your honest,

you can say your nose, your nose, you can say it any way you'd like. If someone is into astrology, the tip of the thing you're gonna know what you're talking about. If you were the Jets team astrologer, you would have been advising what before that game. Don't play. I would have been, I would have had a conversation, I would have talked to the team, psychologists, and had a conversation with Aaron Rodney's about retirey. This is, it's the power of the conversation. Sometimes if you just open your mouth and you just speak to that, you're really thinking

about something and you're wrestling with something, okay, then the energy moves, right? It doesn't get pent up and it expressed this way. And I'm not saying I would have avoided the injury because it might have, but it would have put him in a better position to deal with the injury. Ricki, I want gonna be honest with you. I don't think any team will employ someone who tells the star player retire. That's the advice. It wouldn't be retire. It would be to let's just talk about it. We have to prepare.

You know what I'm telling you? I noticed this is kind of a taboo subject. I noticed it in marriages. You know, like certain people, or at least when they say the D word, it releases tension, and it allows a couple to actually have a real conversation. But if it's a word that they don't ever allow themselves to think or speak, then it kind of sneaks up on them and it happens anyway. But also when you're at least talk about it, you get to see clearly, do I really want to be in this relationship? And I think playing professional football is one of those things where you can't even subconsciously, you can't be halfway in, you can't even be 75 percenting. There's too much on the line, especially when you're going through a Mars transit. So if you have clarity of purpose and you know exactly where you're going, typically it's not

going to cause problems, but if you have some kind of ambivalence, then you got to be careful in a Marstner, because it's going to manifest. Ricky, good talking to you. Always good talking to you. We'll catch up with you next week, 1245-ish. Perfect. Perfect.