The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 2: The Great Child Birth Debate of 2024

Episode Date: May 7, 2024

Stugotz kicks off Hour 2 with his day-late Weekend Observations that include MULTIPLE Top 5 lists. Then, it's the sports debate of all sports debates: should an athlete miss the birth of their child for a playoff game? The crew discusses Rudy Gobert skipping Game 2 and the details to contextualize this specific child birth circumstance, and their opinions may surprise you... Plus, was the Gobert trade still a bad trade if the Timberwolves win a championship? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

You're listening to Giraffe King's Network. This is the Dan LeVertor Show with the StuGuts Podcast. It is time for StuGuts to share his game notes. No one in the media will tell you what happened better than my boy Stu. Weekend observations brought to you by Miller Lite. No one turned my pot on. But it's right next to you. I know, but it's not my responsibility.

I mean, I did it. I turned it on, but it's not my responsibility. I mean, I did it. I turned it on, but it's not my responsibility. I'm sorry, Stu. Apology accepted. The cycle is broken. Your voice still sounds like ****. That cycle's not broken. You need to apologize for it. Sorry, I'm not sorry.

Anyway, brought to you by Miller Lite. Great taste. 96 calories available for delivery. Din! Playoff basketball and hockey is great. But let's be honest, we all miss football. Luckily, this week we get our fix. And boy, do I need it. I have been refreshing my computer every hour waiting and waiting

Who plays who? when winners losers really rookies Rivalries rematches Football you want the schedule here. We all do I want the schedule? Here we, oh, do I want the schedule? Here we go, because Dan, make no mistake about it,

the NFL schedule release week is back. It's big, you're not excited? There is, there is football going on right now. There is? Yeah. If you say so. I'm not even paying that much attention to the league this year, but the ratings for it are crazy. They're getting over a million viewers for these games. For real? Yeah. If you say so. I'm not even paying that much attention to the league this year, but the ratings for it are crazy.

They're getting over a million viewers for these games. For real? Yeah. I guess putting it on the main networks is helping. Speaking of back in less than two weeks, dead in company. J.J. Watt telling D'Amico Ryan's he'll come out of retirement if the Texans need him. First off, they don't. the Texans. The Oriens clear, any Super Bowls won with this Texan team won't count as a ring or Super Bowl championship in my personal record book. Speaking of StuGotsBook.com, just so we're clear,

and this is for Dan and all the people in charge of Metal Art, starting May 17th, whenever there is a dead-end company show, there's a good chance I won't be here. If I am, consider it a bonus. Also, I'll likely figure out a way to expense most of my trips. This is how he puts in for PTO right now. That's how he did it. Someone tell Whittingham.

That's how he puts in for PTO right now. That's how he did it. Someone tell Whittingham. A second top five basketball players that can note marijuana. I left a few on the table last night for Barnes and Stack. That was delightful. I have not in our company, Stephen Jackson and Matt Barnes haven't found anything as funny as they found that. OLI.

Heywood Highsmith. Number five. Puff Johnson. Number four. The Great Herb Williams. Number three, Rip Hamilton. Number two. Z good. All good. All good. All good. All good.

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All good. All good. All good. All good. All good. All good. Good team. He is a Mariners fan. Best pitching staff arguably ever? Oh, come on. Question mark? Mike. Well, they have to finish the story, but they are damn good. The Braves.

How do the Angels have the same record as the Houston Astros? I don't know. Astros have been bad this year. The Maple Leafs did what the Maple Leafs do. Am I wrong? What they do? Between this series and Kendrick Lamar's

Distracts at Drake. It was a tough weekend for Toronto the six Smetty saying she's moving for the fifth time this month to avoid coming here last night for a Knicks watch along. Smetty, heady play. Also, the Stugats is strong in you. Sugats. Boomer Esiason saying the key for the Knicks to beating the Pacers is playing precious achooa. More is what New York sports radio is all about. Booms.

Precious played four minutes last night. They were fun. Dan, you throw that out there. I'm telling you right now, you take calls in it for four hours, you get a 17 share. More Precious. I love that stage. Pat Riley took him over.

Maxie. One pick before. Ooh, that hurts. Not as bad as the Justice Winslow one over Devin Booker, but it's up there. The only way I'd get excited about the Jets drafting an offensive lineman in the first round is if they pick the 17-year-old sumo wrestler that wrestled Micah Parsons. No way that kid's 17, by the way. No chance. I need to see a birth certificate.

Jimmy Butler, saying if I was playing Boston and New York, they'd be home. Dan, you know what the J in Jimmy Butler stands for? I do not. It stands for just shut the fuck up already. Oh, wow. Wow. Mark it.

Greg Cody loves that. That's disrespectful. All season, Jimmy said wait for the playoffs. Hey Jimmy, we're waiting. Fair. Jimmy Butler also called out and dissed Josh Hart. Jimmy Butler would need a week off if he played Josh Hart's minutes.

I mean he did in the bubble. Oh enough. they never got to play that Jimmy part of the commercial the playoff Jimmy Chris sorry bro T Wolves beating the Nuggets in game two statement game random thought how did Tom Kring's Georgia team with Anthony Edwards finish tied for 13th in the SEC it's a great question thank you there's a great question. Thank you. It's a there's a great answer to it. That's why he's not there anymore. The Cavs and Magic should have to keep playing until the road team

wins the rare series that finished before it ever got started. Weird that serves Cavs fans. Channing. We want Boston. Cavs fans. You don't. No, you don't. The jet schedule hasn't been released yet and I already have them starting 0 and 3. I hate them. Tom Brady getting mad at the Robert Craft massage joke. That massage joke really rubbed him the wrong way. Darvin Ham, thank you very much. The rare coach to be fired

after winning the in-season tournament. The nerve. JJ Reddick. Lakers. Collision course. Dan. You know what the D in Donovan Mitchell stands for? I do not.

Do it against Boston. Mystic Dan, winning the Kentucky Derby by a nose, Game of Inches. Also, horse racing is dead. It's done. I mean, no one cares. What about harness racing? Greg's going to bring it back. Who won? Who won? Jalen Brunson.

Getting to go up against former Mavericks coach Rick Carlisle after Carlisle bench Brunson in the 2021 playoffs revenge series to the referee that gave Anthony Edwards a tech for just staring somebody down in a second round playoff game. Get over yourself. Nobody and I mean nobody is going to that game to watch you by the time next season rolls around the media will once again convince us that the Clippers are contenders.

The Clippers said they'd like Paul George and James Harden back with Kawhi next season. I have a question, Kawhi. Thank you. That is a Greg Cody special there. That is not the ally you want on that joke. I like that joke as well, Stu Gantz, but Greg Cody liking that joke. I like Greg Cody special there. That is not the ally you want on that joke I like that joke as well Stu gots a Greg Cody liking that joke I like Greg is my Cody likes the work the worst the worst or the wordplay the happier Greg Cody is

Mark Cuban send me your address so I could send you a personal. Thank you note for Jalen Brunson Shohei Otani going eight for twelve this weekend as LA sweeps the Braves It is completely unfair that he is their third best hitter It's ludicrous Yep, thank you. He's not Really I mean Mookie Betts has been better this year MVP Freddie Freeman. We've got some Otani stats for you. He's great No one's disputing is great on the mound I mean you got me there this season, but concentrating on hitting is kind of working out for him

pretty good You know what I did before the stars nights on Sunday night? I put the kids to bed. They're in college, but I called them and I demanded they go to bed right now. They did. Dan, you know what you do? When Jokic is getting played off the floor by Nas Reed,

what do you do? You pack it in and regroup. Okay. So Mike Malone, you've been told you need to pack it in and regroup. When Nikola Jokic is winning championships, he looks like a generational talent. When Nikola Jokic is losing by 26 points at home

to go down 0-2 in the Western Conference Semi-Finals. He looks like Brian Cardinal, but worse. I mean, are you shaking your head because he still hasn't learned how to say his last name? Jokic sounds like something I need Newbag for. Cards. Courtesy of Sarah Langs. Otani, most extra base hits in the league.

Otani, most hits in the league. Otani, best batting average in the league. Otani, most hits in the league. Otani, best batting average in the league. Otani, most runs in the league. Otani, most total bases in the league. Otani, best on base percentage. Otani, best slugging percentage. Hand in hand, Otani, best OPS in the league. Also, he's had 52 hits in his first 35 games as a Dodger.

He never had 52 hits in any span of 35 games as an angel. It would seem that concentrating on hits and just hitting alone without having to pitch at all. If he just did that over the course of his career and you extrapolated these numbers over what would have been his career, we're looking at possibly the home run king and clearly the greatest hitter of all time. Mm-hmm. Also leads the majors in illegal bets.

What happened? Allegedly. Did Orlando lose or did Cleveland win? Did that series even happen? I have no idea. If it happened, if a tree falls on NBA TV. A's beating the Marlins 20 to 4. The rare game with more runs than fans. NBA TV. A's beating the Marlins 20 to four.

The rare game with more runs than fans. If a seven game series between Cleveland and Orlando happened, but no one saw it, no one cared. Did it actually happen? You didn't cross it out? I didn't. Oh, but you didn't use a tree line. You didn't use a tree line?

All right, NBA TV, I feel like I had the better end. Happy belated anniversary to Dan Lebatard, who two years ago on Sunday wore gym shorts to a Formula One race. F1. FU. Thought you were gonna say that to me. You did.

For those of you who decided to compare Anthony Edwards to Michael Jordan, I have some advice. Don't. Thanks. In fact, I'm keeping tabs. Uh-oh. And all of you who have dared. Let those words come out of your mouth into a live microphone.

You have until the close of business today to shove those words right back in your mouths cob I love a good keeping of the tabs if you think Tom Fibbido is giving the Knicks a day off today you simply don't know Tom Thibodeau. If you think Tom Thibodeau was happy with that victory last night, you don't know Tom Thibodeau. Four hour practice, one hour of stretching, two hours defensive drills, and then sprints. Thibs. This is probably unfair and irresponsible of me, but every time I see Dana white I assume he's on cocaine Seem to be some of that going on there. Hmm. Not with him particularly. He wasn't the one that stuck out

named names The least shocking thing in sports is that JJ Watt thinks the Texans are a JJ Watt away from winning a Super Bowl. Get over yourself. What did I get from the Tom Brady roast? He's coming back. You agree? I do not.

Giselle's upset by the way. So is Aaron Hernandez's family and a whole bunch of people I mean Giselle has a right Louch What happened I haven't felt that bad for someone being roasted since me and Dan were roasted by Mark Ackman Wow I for someone being roasted since me and Dan were roasted by Mark Ackman. Wow. I felt bad for us that night.

Old memories. Top five people in sports. I want to see roasted next. Oh, I Steven A Smith. Good one. That's a good one. That is a good one. He'd be great.

He'd do all the facial things. They make a joke at his expense. He'd be like, ahhh. He would do all of that. He would. You're right. Number five, Barry Bonds. Number four, Aaron Rodgers. Number three, Tiger Woods.

Number two, Derek Jeter. And number one, LeBron James. Top five people I'd like to see roast LeBron James. Number five, Andy Ellisberg. They made him wait for hours outside in the casino with Riley. Number four, David Blatt. You had Andy Ellisberg like at the slots? Yes. They were. They were playing blackjack. They were. They were. They were waiting playing blackjack. Number three, Dan Gilbert.

Number two, Pat Riley. And number one, of course, JJ Barea. Nobody caught more strays in the Tom Brady roast than Aaron Hernandez, which I thought was unfair since he's already getting roasted in hell. Speaking of hell, our priors, Dan, those are the weekend observations.

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Get your head start on Summer with Peloton at OnePeloton.com. Don LeBretard. Quiet man. Yes. You know, I'm a married man. I don't cheat on my wife despite that gratuitous line in back in my day. That you wrote. Stugarts.

I wish you were here, my wife. I really miss her. No, I don't. That's the thing about being married. You know, you're not allowed to say, I don't miss my wife. I've been gone two days. I haven't been gone long enough to miss my wife. I'm sorry. I call her 30 seconds, you know, what am I? Alright, alright, we'll see ya. Alright, and then you know, I'm gonna see her in two days I was jumping Charlie good. This is the done libertar show with the StuGuts. An age-old sports debate topic made an appearance yesterday, StuGuts, and ended up not mattering at all because of how the Timberwolves blew out Denver on the road. But almost as long as I have been doing this, there have been arguments that break out when

a Rudy Gobert misses an important game to go be somewhere for the birth of his first child. Now, this happened last year in football where a Bengals Offensive lineman whose name I don't remember Came to the game to lose 38 16 or something with Cincinnati's Backup quarterback or third string quarterback in what was already a lost season I know a mean can speak to this and you heard Stephen Jackson and Matt Barnes speak to it yesterday. There is something about sports and they you have to count on the man next to you. That kind of mentality and woman next to you when you're playing. I don't I don't think that this would make an appearance

obviously in women's sports. I don't think there's an angle at which you can get to, and I may have this wrong, but I just don't think that the sensibilities, I may be generalizing here, but the sensibilities when it comes to should I be there with my partner when they're giving birth, I think there's a coldness that men can apply to it in the name of teamwork that I simply don't associate with women. I may have that wrong. Well, women have to be there for the birth. Well, I'm talking about, I know you say that,

but sometimes the partner doesn't have to be there when a woman gives birth. And if you're in a gay relationship, that's... This is like the old doctor thing, right? Like the doctor operated on the doctor's child, but the doctor wasn't the father or whatever. What was it? Like, oh, I don't know.

Oh, the doctor's a woman. It's not that much of a riddle, actually, but I understand how Billy arrived there. I'm just asking as it applies to Rudy Gobert and Gilbert Arenas then saying, the baby's gonna be there when you get back. Gilbert Arenas then saying the baby's going to be there when you get back. Gilbert Arenas said it that flatly. And there are all sorts of complications that can happen when someone is giving childbirth. And also, I would say that I would miss any

game because that's a dangerous thing. It's a painful thing. And I would want to be with my wife if something, no matter the game, Especially the first one. No matter, but not just especially the first one. In every circumstance, every single one, I would choose love over work. And I love my work plenty, but my work doesn't have the same environment that sports do. And so I wanna ask the group the question. All right, so this is a very important detail.

The baby boy was delivered monday morning sources so yes and so at this point it's that what the guys are saying last night baby are you good as a baby good all right i was there to the pictures as i cut off the bill accord the game is monday night uh... you get to work and i'll be right back a few hours later.

What is the amount of time that you're okay with a player bypassing the ethos of the locker room, which is in important moments, I have to be able to count on the person next to me. That ethos being so pervasive that I think if I polled athletes, male athletes, I'm guessing that most of them would say I have to be at the playoff game. I'm not saying 80%, but I'm guessing that the pressure to be there for your teammates.

I'd say higher, Dan. You think higher? Yes, I think most guys would say, most athletes would say I have to be there for my teammates? I'd say higher, Dan. You think higher? Yes, I think most guys would say, most athletes would say, I have to be there for my teammates no matter what. I would say that most athletes would absolutely say I'd rather be there for the game, given the context that the child has been born this morning,

everything is fine, and the child isn't being born in like, you know, Canada or somewhere far, right? It doesn't help his optics in terms of the meatheaded discussion around this that Brandon Carlo a defenseman for the Boston Bruins also became a dad on Monday at 3 a.m. in the morning flew into Florida scored a goal even hockey player it's why his heart is always compromised and text tested by other people in the league like Dre Mon say I'll really soft everybody like he has that soft whatever hard as always compromising and tested by other people in the league like Draymond say

Rudy is soft, he has that soft persona right now because of things like this. It's like bro this is the playoff, this is the joker. I'm not saying you should, what to do but it's just a very great example of why we consider him how we consider him. If they're down 0-1 does he play? Because they had a game in hand. I mean I don't it's a good question. I don't I really I'd like to address the first one before we address the second one. I think he plays. I like to. We don't have a good answer for the first one. It would it because it's all subjective. It all depends on the relationship, what your partner is experiencing, what your partner's wishes are.

How good you are on your team, whether we care. Like if it's like the eighth guy on the bench, we're like, you go do your thing. But if it's Anthony Edwards, it's like, no, we need you. Also, to be fair, not a vet move, having a kid in the playoffs. You gotta time it out better? You time it out in the off season.

To be fair, he's never playing this deep. He is, he's not, was saying he was saying to his wife They're just gonna play me off the court in the second round I'm not there anyway Delon right of the Miami Heat got a rare opportunity to start a playoff game in Boston He missed a game in the first round against Boston for the birth of his child I'm just about placing in front of the audience because I really don't get it.

I'm at a loss. I don't work with anybody and have never worked with anybody that will help outside of sports, outside of the actual arena that will make me understand what it is to choose work over your Your most prized and precious loved one, but this is a team environment. It's the commitment to your team I know but I know it's a lot of these marriage and giving birth is also a team environment like it's also very important I understand like being there for a scared a possibly scared wife and a wife in pain to me I would want to be present to make sure

that if there's any soothing I could possibly provide, I'm not in a locker room unavailable for a call. What if your wife says, hey, I'm good, baby, good, I'm gonna be fine, I have support here, go play. That's different, but I still- Go make the money that's gonna provide for this family. Like, you have a chance to cement your legacy in the playoffs against Nikola Jokic.

Your child is going to benefit from that. Go get him, Rudy. Also, the baby was already born! What are we doing here? The baby wasn't born a tip off? Monday morning, sources tell Tim McMahon of ESPN. I'm not having the conversation. It is an important part of the context,

what you're saying. That timing is something that is suspect. And the resources, he can hop on a private jet and be at the game. Correct, but I'm making it more complicated than that. This is the way that you're making the argument here. I'm making it not quite that escape route. I'm asking you to put them right next to each other

and make it a more difficult choice than the one that you're saying is being made by Gobert there. Greg, when Chris was born, how much time did you spend, like the baby, he comes out of Lurleen. Oh, it's amazing. How much time did you spend hanging out after that?

Several hours, I would say. I actually got called by a boss of mine while I was in the hospital with a hours old Chris Cody wanting me to work that day because something big had broken on the University of Miami beat. And your answer was? Hell no. This is a new and an improved Don Levatard show

with the Stugarts. Gamble on by DraftKings. Don Levatard. I heard Stugats. Gamble on by DraftKings. Don Lebatard. I heard that as a woman faking pain. I didn't think that sounded real. I really didn't, you know. It was not fake.

It was in no way fake. You can spot a woman faking it. Stugats. Yes, I can, Jess. Expert. I've been married 40 years. This is the Don Lebatard Show with the Stugats. What if it's a game seven? Oh, changes everything.

Greg Cody and Stugats during the break were unbelievable and not surprising on Greg Cody and Stantz, incidentally, who will miss being somewhere where they have to be for the silliest of reasons, just arguing very passionately on behalf of, you have to be there for your teammates, as if your wife is not one of your teammates. It's not, as if your wife is not your life teammate. We were saying the first child is more important. It's more important that you be there for the first child than any other child. That's it. That's all we were saying. Okay, but there are

any number of circumstances in a pregnancy that involve a great deal of pain and fear and danger that, you know, maybe you can't do anything. Save for the playoffs. I'm gonna say the elephant in the room right here. When you got enough money, you can pay for all these things to sit around your wife while you go slay the joker. So if she needs some comfort, guess who I'm finna pay? The $100 an hour mother trucker. He gonna sit right here and I'm gonna get a wet nurse, I'm gonna get a, ladies don't counsel me, I'm gonna get everything, all the accoutrement.

A doula? Yes, for childbirth. I'm just trying to figure out Monday afternoon slash Monday evening, what was he doing that provided her comfort? Lucy, your silence here is conspicuous. Can we stop going to me as the woman, please? Look, my take, if I have a kid and my husband leaves,

I'm divorcing his ass so fast. Wow. So fast. But that's just me. I don't care what these people do. Live your life. Hope your kid doesn't see you left later in life. I'm sure it won't mess with them, you know, in their brain. If that's the case though, you'd argue staying and playing with your teammates is the right move because your wife would not be your wife, your life teammate.

She divorces you for not being there. Pickle. My parents are divorced. I turned out fine. I'm not worried about my future kid What was that sound? Who made that sound? When Lucy said I turned out fine. Where'd that come from? Was that a meme? Snitch I just didn't know where it came from I mean it was a genuine curious question. I thought it was Billy. I'm so used to a stray sound

Hey, a sound of shrapnel hitting the... Ha ha ha. Name. My therapist that I see weekly and have to see weekly says I'm doing great. Ha ha ha. Your court ordered therapist. Why are we breaking this down?

They didn't even lose. So it didn't really matter. All because of how passionate Gilbert Arenas' opinion was. But why does that matter? I don't, why? This is a good question that I'm asking. Why does it matter what Gilbert Arenas thinks about this?

Like, I know he's talking to Andy. We all have our opinions. Like, what? It's because he got Wally Pipp, that's why. That's the story that no one's talking about. Timberwolves, better without Rudy Gobert, Mike Hollam. They won with Rudy. They're better without him.

Nas Reed. Nas Reed is a better fit. I won. He's a good player. Yes he is. He is. And if people don't care about what Gilbert Arenas is saying,

they definitely don't give a damn about what I'm saying. I can't even talk right now. Oh, but you guys can object. I'm with you. This is something that I have heard talked about. This has been a source of debate and conversation for a long time. It's not just Gilbert Arenas.

This is something that I have heard talked about in sports for a great deal of time. One of the things that I did find interesting about that Timberwolves nuggets situation is quietly, A-Rod is hurting and Glenn Taylor is like, woo hoo, I'm feeling pretty good about everything that's happened here in my ownership of the team now that I have the most interesting Timberwolves team

I've ever had because I think Kevin Garnett made one Western, did he make a? With the T-wolves. One time. One time. Sam Cassell, Spreewell. This is the best Timberwolves team I've ever seen. I've not seen one better than this. I have not seen one more championship worthy than this and Glenn Taylor, the owner of the

Timberwolves, wasn't for a moment. He was selling the team to A-Rod. I mean it's still a bad trade for Gobert, correct? Whether you think they're better with or without him, that remains a dumb trade that we were all making fun of Even though the Timberwolves are better, right? Yeah, I mean I think we need to talk about this yesterday Yeah, it's it's a bad trade unless they win a championship in which case nothing matters right at that point Oh, it could still be a bad trade though. I can win a no no no Minnesota Timberwolves win a title with Rudy go bear on the roster great trade

It's a great they could never have a draft pick again. Yeah, but they got a bit lucky here No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, This is why they made the trick bear help them in any way though with his development in your opinion has Anthony Edwards Yeah, I think it's allowed him to be a more aggressive defensive player Well, there you go But I mean at the time we were mocking that trade because it's a three-point shooting league and they were getting big men Oh, but and the amount that they traded for because they got they gave up a lot They gave up a lot and you know when you talk to the Minnesota people They'll tell you like things really started clicking when they acquired Mike Conley last season. That's the piece that kind of made everything start to gel

and they saw the beginnings of what we saw this season with that Conley deal. But Dan, the reality is, like Mike just said, they win a championship. You give every single pick for the rest of the time for that. This is, I believe up until a couple of years ago, was the losingest franchise in the history of American professional sports by win percentage.

There has been no team that's been worse. We talked about Kevin Garnett going to conference finals. That was the last time they won a playoff series, right? They went to the conference finals in 2004 and then didn't go to the playoffs for another 17 years after that. This is an organization that is, you make fun of the Clippers, everybody makes fun of the Clippers, but really when you talk about the biggest losers ever, it's the Minnesota

Timberwolves. So if they win a championship, and hell even if they go to the finals to be honest with you, I think they walk away feeling like it'd it was worth it was worth that many picks it's interesting that you say that because but the way that you guys are describing it there is no hypothetical scenario that i could provide you that if you win the championship you can also have made a bad trade even though you've just got done saying they're better without him that that that and so i still think it's a bad trade uh... and i will think it's even though you just got done saying they're better without him.

And so I still think it's a bad trade, and I will think it's a bad trade, but it does matter how much he gives them the rest of the way, but you just got done saying they're better without him. Dan, I'm gonna put it to you like this. We put this on oddball today, I believe. The Clippers gave up eight million picks for Paul George,

and Shea Gilder's Alexander went in that deal. And everyone's kind of doing the victory lap because Shea has been amazing and those picks are never ending. But the reality is if the Clippers win a championship because they had Paul George and Kui Leonard, it's all worth it.

They don't care. Nobody cares. If this isn't like the Yankees where you have eight million championships and it's like what's an extra one? For teams like the Clippers and the T-Wolves, it's worth it. But now, if Paul George wants to go to the NBA finals,

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