The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 2: The Height Requirement

Episode Date: April 7, 2025

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Starting point is 00:01:24 But what happened this weekend with the announcement of this class, I will be the first to tell you that I was blown away. One, that Billy Donovan is in the Hall of Fame. Now it is true Florida's in the final game tonight. It is true that he won two titles, but the basketball Hall of Fame for two titles? Two, Mickey Harrison? Mickey Harrison. I love Mickey. Unbelievable for our community. Unbelievable. He's in the Hall of Fame before Robert Kraft is in the Hall of Fame in football? He's the most important Hall of Fame owner in the NBA, Mickey Harrison? I couldn't believe it.
Starting point is 00:01:55 You, of course, Jerry, must have been over the moon because you have content, you have post-game shows. Did you get to interview Mickey? I haven't spoken to Mickey about this, but it is pretty cool to see it as someone local and to watch this franchise be what it's been since he took over. I saw that since he became the point person for the Miami Heat, they are the winningest team in the Eastern Conference in terms of regular season record. They also, I think, are one of six teams with multiple titles in that stretch. So it's cool to see an owner that has had a ton of success
Starting point is 00:02:26 and impacted the community the way that he has being honored that way locally. I mean, it was cool news to see come across the timeline. So Joe Lacob, correct me if I'm wrong. Lacob. Lacob? Yeah. Lacob?
Starting point is 00:02:40 With a B. He'll be in the Hall of Fame. I would think so at some point, right? I mean, I don't know. At this point, like why? What shocked me more was the timing. Yeah, I assume that that is a tenure of owning the franchise thing.
Starting point is 00:02:52 I don't know the answer. I didn't look at all of the nominees on the ownership side of it, but my assumption would be is this is sort of a ticking guys off the list who are on that list over the span of years in which they've owned these franchises. But maybe I'm wrong.
Starting point is 00:03:08 So all you need, you okay Jessica? All you need are, you need time, rings, and you need to be loved. So how come I'm not in the Hall of Fame? Well, you're not a team owner, so. True, but as an executive I could have been. Loved. Or times. Time? Well if you want to spend. Time was on my side. You're not a team owner. So true, but as an executive I could have been meh loved our times
Starting point is 00:03:26 Time well if you want to my side if you want to spend some time at Mickey Harrison's arena watching the Miami Heat tonight It's one of the two games tonight the Sixers at the Heat and the Kings at the Piston So if you're in Detroit if you're in Miami and you want to go to one of those games You should use game time to do so just download the the Game Time app, create an account, and use code Dan for $20 off your first purchase. Terms apply, download Game Time today. Last minute tickets, lowest price, guaranteed. What time is it, Roy?
Starting point is 00:03:55 Game Time. Game Time. Can there be a game that we go to where there's no winner? Does there have to be a winner in the NBA? In the NBA, yeah, I think someone has to win eventually. I'm just asking because it seems like the Sixers and Heat don't want to win. The Heat want to win. Who would, what would they, they can't get a home,
Starting point is 00:04:08 they can't get a home game in the playing, can they? Yeah, they can still get a home game in the playing. A lot has to happen though. No, I think at this point they're either a game back or tied with the Bulls who they play later this week. What's the Draft Kings line tonight? Cause the Sixers are a disaster. They are a game behind the Bulls
Starting point is 00:04:24 and two games behind the Hawks. Just so that we can all be aware of where things stand, the heat of the 10 seed. I think the NBA is ridiculous right now. I'm loving it. I'm following it. I'm a big fan of the playing tournament. I totally, we had a conversation about tanking on this show on nothing personal as well, but the Sixers, they're a team that you have to be embarrassed
Starting point is 00:04:44 about in every possible way. They've sort of always been the franchise that you could be embarrassed about in that respect, right? Because they tried to lose for so many seasons only for it to turn out for them to continue to be losers. The Heat are 14 and a half point favorite tonight. 14 and a half? Yeah, look, the Heat have lost, I think, they've lost back-to-back games here, but the loss before their win streak began and these last two games have all been by, I think they've lost back-to-back games here, but the loss before their win streak began and these last two games Have all been by I think a combined like three or four points total. They've been these heartbreaking losses at the buzzer
Starting point is 00:05:13 So they've been over the last couple of weeks playing Better than they were before and when that's going up against the Sixers who are in Every sense of the term trying to lose it's how you end up with a line like that one. As an executive, I can only tell you that when you double down on a player, the way that the Blue Jays are doing on Vladimir Guerrero now, the way they signed him 14 years, 500 million, the way the Sixers did with Umbead,
Starting point is 00:05:37 they bring in Paul George, they bring in Tyrese, and they're all hurt, they all stink. And as an executive, you can't give up. And that's the worst thing for fans because you just keep doubling down, you double down, you say it's gonna change, it's gonna get better, they're gonna get better next year. And the Sixers, it's done.
Starting point is 00:05:52 If you're a Sixers fan. The Paul George contract really sent it overboard in terms of the being. Except when he signed. No, everybody was excited. Of course they were because they wanted another name brand player that could be alongside Joel Embiid, but Embiid's health has been an issue for his entire career and now you've seen how many combinations of teammates
Starting point is 00:06:11 not work. It's really a shame because the health thing was really the biggest issue this year, seemingly. They were never able to gel. Paul George was awful, like he had a really bad season, but who knows if he had been even a little bit healthy and the rest of that group had been healthy because Jared McCain and Tyrese Maxey, that was a fun young backcourt you could look at. There are all these what ifs that you can do, but when you're franchise like Philadelphia, how many years of what if with the same exact result
Starting point is 00:06:38 over and over again can you possibly get out of? That has to be the point. I think we need to eliminate what ifs from professional sports because what ifs do nothing and fans are such a fan of that concept. What if we eliminated what ifs from professional sports? Ooh. I would like to.
Starting point is 00:06:55 There should be no what ifs. You shouldn't be allowed to say, hey, we were gonna be good, but what if this guy played better? What if that shot had gone in? We can do a top 10 list of the what ifs that people use for their sports teams and their life. It's actually just rationalization
Starting point is 00:07:10 for a disappointment in life on any level. You say, but for what if. I think we should outlaw all of it because it gives people easy excuses. It gives Darryl Morey the ability to say, hey, don't judge me. What if all our guys were healthy, who I signed? Then I'd be the greatest executive ever.
Starting point is 00:07:29 What if Flag had not missed the shot or what if they'd gotten the rebound? What if they'd gotten the ball in bounds? I'm not a fan. It didn't, it's sports, it happened. But the best what if is what if Ray Allen hadn't made the shot, right? That's a great one.
Starting point is 00:07:42 That's one of the best. I mean, for Miami people, most people have no idea what you're talking about. I think everybody knows the Ray Allen shot. Does everyone out of Miami know the Ray Allen hadn't made the shot, right? That's one of the best. I mean, for Miami people, most people have no idea what you're talking about. I think everybody knows the Ray Allen shot. Does everyone out of Miami know the Ray Allen shot? Yeah, if I say the Ray Allen shot, anyone who watches basketball knows what it is. I thought everyone knew the Kel Ripken conspiracy theory
Starting point is 00:07:55 in the last segment. Yeah, I guess that's true. I guess maybe everyone doesn't know. Billy, did you know it? Yeah, I had heard of it, but we do this thing sometimes where when we all know the thing, we don't really set up what the thing is.
Starting point is 00:08:07 So then we're talking about it, but then at times people get mad that we don't explain it to them. Then at times people get mad when we over explain things to them. So there's really no winning. What if no one got unhappy? Utopia?
Starting point is 00:08:21 Dystopia. Yeah, there you go. Do you guys have someone in your lives who you count on to give you sort of grounding? I have someone in my life who gives me grounding because when I think there's a major story or something that's hugely important and I mention it to her and she says,
Starting point is 00:08:37 I have no idea what you're talking about. And this is a well-read, educated person. Do you have anyone in your life, Billy, who does that, when you think that something is totally major, and then you realize, oh my God. I am surrounded by people who are not particularly impressed by me. Not entirely by choice, but I'm not,
Starting point is 00:09:02 this isn't specific to a topic or your question, but I'm not, this isn't like specific to a topic or your question but like I don't, I'm not surrounded by people who listen to the show or love the show or whatever right there might be some but like for the most part it's not like what I do here always crosses over to what I'm doing outside of work right because they just the people that I know have different interests or whatever so like I never let anything really get to my head or whatever, because I'm grounded very easily when I'm just told by all the people around me,
Starting point is 00:09:30 no one cares about that. So that's pretty common. No one has seen this or knows about this. I think only my mother listens to my show every day. I don't think, my father, when he was alive, my father would call after every show and criticize it. How old's your mom? Every show.
Starting point is 00:09:46 When I was running the Marlins, my dad did the same thing. We'd lose a game. My dad would call and say, how could you not have taken out this pitcher? How did you allow Yellich to strike out there? You gotta pull him for a pinch hitter. My dad listens to almost every episode that I'm in. Does he call you and give you some pointers?
Starting point is 00:10:03 He gets mad at me when he learns things about my life from the show that he didn't know about me beforehand because I didn't tell him or whatever. He gets mad about that. Like he found out, this was a rough one, I think he found out that I got in a car accident because I talked about it on the show and I hadn't told him because I got hit,
Starting point is 00:10:24 it's this whole thing, I don't wanna be agist again, but this old man that shouldn't have been driving crashed into me, damn, guy was like 93 years old, hit me, then we get like the written report and I assume, okay, I'm fine, like his insurance is gonna pay for it, so I go to his insurance, cause he just flat out ran a red light
Starting point is 00:10:43 and just crashed into me. And then the report was like incon for it, so I go to his insurance, because he just flat out ran a red light and just crashed into me. And then the report was inconclusive. The police officer didn't choose a side or whatever. There's traffic cameras and we called every agency of local government to get access to those cameras and they basically were like, well, they're kind of just for funsies. They're like, we only use those if you run a red light.
Starting point is 00:11:01 I'm like, perfect, this is the scenario. I was in, someone ran a red light and hit me. How do we get that footage? And they're like, well, we can't really get that footage. We can just kind of use it and watch live if we want, but we can't actually track it down. Let me tell you something about cameras, David. They never work when you need them, okay?
Starting point is 00:11:20 Never once in my life has a security camera come in to save the day. It's always, my car got hit, let's go to save the day. It's always my car got hit Let's go to the security camera of the parking garage. It got hidden. Oh, no those cameras haven't worked for years cameras Never were when you need a camera. They never work there was this whole Miami Herald article I read a few weeks ago about the new cameras They put on I think school buses that are supposed to catch people they They do. Those do. Well, apparently they've been sending tickets to people that have not been breaking the law at all.
Starting point is 00:11:49 And it's for like a $250 fine or something. And all these people are like, wait a second. I didn't do that. I was like, I was on the other side of the median. What are you talking about? You have to stop on the other side. I believe that when. Well, the point of the story was that there
Starting point is 00:12:02 were people that were being falsely issued tickets. Listen, if you see the Richard Sherman thing, the cameras. Oh the story was that there were people that were being falsely issued tickets. Badly? Listen, did you see the Richard Sherman thing? The cameras? Oh yeah, that's crazy. So he was robbed at gunpoint while he was home and he released his security footage and you'd think that someone of his means would have better security. How you can identify someone from that footage?
Starting point is 00:12:20 The only security cameras that seem to be working presently that are actually getting people arrested are the ones on Tesla's Every other security camera you can't identify a person for some reason like if you go and you like Write on a Tesla you're going to jail for 45 years Like don't east don't don't deface a Tesla or put gum on like a handle because then it's like a felony because the handles Are so expensive Teslas are very expensive to fix. I've heard I've never I've been in an Uber Tesla.
Starting point is 00:12:48 I've never driven a Tesla. Same. I know someone that had I know a couple of people that had them that have sold them, not for like, you know, reasons of whatever. They sold them before one was because like they didn't like them. No, like I know someone that sold theirs because they're like this car stinks. One one of my friends would get nauseous when driving it, allegedly, do I have to say allegedly? One of my friends allegedly would get nauseous
Starting point is 00:13:10 while driving it. I mean, if he told you they get nauseous. It's a bumpy ride. It was a she Roy way to be open-minded. I apologize, she. She was nauseous. And then my cousin had one and sold it because he would go on road trips
Starting point is 00:13:23 because he didn't live here and he'd come to visit the family and would have to stop to recharge it like halfway and it just got to a point where he's like, I can't, it's just too much work for me. I wouldn't do the self drive thing. Oh no. Ever. I'm way too controlling for that.
Starting point is 00:13:38 I would like to try the parallel park thing, but I'm also too scared to do that. I do my own parallel parking. I'm more nervous about the car crashing by itself. Yeah. Than being controlling. And the irony of course is that it's supposed to be safer than you're driving.
Starting point is 00:13:54 Cause there's no human, you don't close your eyes, you don't get distracted, you don't look at your phone. All the things that are so bad for drivers that are part of the world, that this is the future. Automatic driving, taxis without drivers, this is coming. I don't like the idea that the car can just decide, like, you know what, you wanna go to Burger King? Nah, let's go to the gym instead.
Starting point is 00:14:13 And I get locked in the car and I get taken to LA Fitness. It's like, time to work out fatty. How great would that be? They measure your BMI. That'd be terrible. I don't wanna work out. Wait, imagine a car that measures your health and that it takes you to the place to do something like you're not allowed to go.
Starting point is 00:14:28 Think about what would happen to coronary artery disease if people weren't allowed to go to McDonald's. I think I'd rather die. So that means the car is taking your data. This is true. You don't have data anymore, Roy. Get rid of the idea that your data is not yours. Yeah, you don't have any data.
Starting point is 00:14:43 So you got to get past that fact. Everyone knows where you are and what you're doing at all times. Not everybody cares, but everybody knows. Big brother? Big brother, that's not a conspiracy theory. That's just a fact of our existence. Now you can be the guy or the girl or the person.
Starting point is 00:14:58 Do you put anything over your camera when you're not using it on your MacBook? You do that? Come on. Well, no, the actual camera, the external camera has a little flap, but the computer camera, no. You know, there are people who do that because they think that somebody's watching them.
Starting point is 00:15:16 And I don't mean like Jeffrey Toobin type stuff. I mean, they just, whatever, they don't want to be seen, period, by the deep state. It was on a Zoom call, so. Yeah. Yeah, that's all on him, yeah. Well, I'm certainly not. It was on a Zoom call, so. Yeah. Yeah, that's all on him, yeah. Well, I'm certainly not saying. He did it to himself, literally.
Starting point is 00:15:29 He did it to himself. One nothing, Billy. I'm not of that view that we're at risk in that way, because I've always learned there was a teacher I had in high school who said, everything you say or do, be prepared for it to be on the front page of the paper. And that's before I was in a public job. And so that's why I've always been fine.
Starting point is 00:15:52 Like everything I've done, if it's on the front page, it's on the front page. And I think if we all live that way, I think it'd be a better world. If you were all prepared to read everything you did on the front page of the paper. I doubt that. I don't think anybody cares anymore.
Starting point is 00:16:06 There's a Black Mirror episode about that, I think, with, nope, not remembering her name. Schitt's Creek? Anybody? Annie Murphy, thank you. Oh, Annie Murphy. Thank you, my own brain, for bringing that back. There's a Black Mirror episode where the whole premise
Starting point is 00:16:21 is that her life is a reality TV show. So she goes home. The Truman Show. And she turns on the TV and is that her life is a reality TV show. So she goes home. A Truman Show. And she turns on the TV and there is her life right out in front of her. You don't think human beings should have an expectation of privacy? I do believe we should have an expectation of privacy.
Starting point is 00:16:36 However, it's become unrealistic. I'm merely a pragmatist. I would like to just point out to people that if you have that expectation, it's okay to have it, but don't fool yourself into thinking that you actually have it And you may all think that you do but you don't and it is what it is like to people really care whether you go To LA Fitness or McDonald's my car does apparently if people really care what video you're watching as long as it's not how to make a bomb Now, of course, there's certain categories you try to avoid,
Starting point is 00:17:05 but in general the reality is that no one cares what we do 99.99% of the time. So I just wouldn't panic. That's the theme of the show today. The through line to the show is people are panicked. They're panicked about their sports teams, they're panicked about their money, they're panicked about their retirement,
Starting point is 00:17:23 whether they have it, whether they can retire, the state of the world, climate change, the president, everyone's panicked about their money. They're panicked about their retirement, whether they have it, whether they can retire, the state of the world, climate change, the president. Everyone's panicked. I think the through line here is that we need to be the voice of calm. I mean, yeah, I don't think people should go act rashly, but I think there's definitely cause to be in a state of panic over everything that's happening.
Starting point is 00:17:44 It's very naive to just be like, don't panic, everything will be fine. I didn't, wait, I didn't say that. Now you just put words in my mouth. I didn't say everything will be fine and I didn't say not to act. I act all the time and so do you. But what I would say is when you act out of panic,
Starting point is 00:17:56 you rarely act efficiently. Well, how about being slightly concerned? I'm in for that. Okay. I'm in for even gravely concerned. Oh, wow. I'm willing to go that far. What's the ante?
Starting point is 00:18:10 But that is way below panic. I just don't think anything good happens when people panic. Gravely concerned. I'm gravely concerned. I'm gonna change the way I do things. I'm gonna go to LA Fitness because I'm gravely concerned that I got a bad calcium score in my arteries.
Starting point is 00:18:26 Just there for. Tomes. No, different thing. Okay. Bone density is down. This is the one. I know what you're talking about. This is the one that people suffer
Starting point is 00:18:39 when all of a sudden you're in the middle of a show and then boom, the lights go out. Oh. Because you have the big one. Wheezy I'm coming home. Oh. Is that another reference? No no no no no no no Sanford and Son. Elizabeth I'm coming to join you honey. That's when you had the home. No but isn't there a Wheezy? Yeah Wheezy's the Jefferson's. But you never said Wheezy I'm coming home? No George Jefferson did not save that. No no Fred Sanford Elizabeth, I'm coming to join you. He's right.
Starting point is 00:19:07 I love Sanford and Son. Do you? Do you? It's a big one. But I've always said Weezy. Well, two different shows by Norman Lear. Well, I know it's two different shows. At least I think it's Norman Lear.
Starting point is 00:19:18 Those shows were ahead of their time. Go back and watch All in the Family. You can't have a show like All in the Family now. Absolutely not. Nor should you. Except at the time it was groundbreakingly funny. I wanna get back to the panic part. Are you at your best?
Starting point is 00:19:35 Greatly concerned. As a journalist on deadline, that's a great one. Are you the procrastinator that you do things right the last minute? I don't know if I've ever been a journalist on deadline. So, work with me here. Okay. Just try.
Starting point is 00:19:50 Just right here. Like you said, Duke. I work best with a strong deadline, yes. I work best if I know I have to do something by 8 p.m. I will do it and it'll be done on time. If you're like, yeah, your deadline's maybe next week, maybe the week after, I'm not gonna get to it right away.
Starting point is 00:20:07 So yes, I work better when I'm a little under pressure. So you're a procrastinator? No, not necessarily. I'll like, I'll make sure I have the time to do something. I'm not going to like completely cast it aside to do the, you know, frivolous nonsense. If I have other work to do though, I'll get that work done first
Starting point is 00:20:24 before the thing with the nebulous deadline So the thing about the panic that that comes to play because I was that way too I'm procrastinator But I always have a plan of knowing when things have to get done And I know how much time it'll take me to do it But what I find is panic impacts efficiency So I found that I wasn't as good doing a paper or doing something that I had to do. If I waited past that inflection point of knowing that I had to start it to finish it by deadline,
Starting point is 00:20:49 if I tried to squeeze, it's like trying to do one more thing before you have to go to the bathroom. Am I the only one who does that? You have to go to the bathroom, you try one more exit in the car. I can make it one more rest stop. I can make it one more errand.
Starting point is 00:21:04 And then all of a sudden, you need a new pair of undies? I can't be the only one that's happened to me. No, I mean, I also push it. I mean, I don't know about the new pair of undies part of it, but I'm also similar to you in that, like, yeah, it's the, you're doing the long distance drive across our state and it's like the next rest stops in 39 miles and it's like, I have to pee a little bit,
Starting point is 00:21:24 but not so much that I have to stop right now, so I'm gonna try to make it the next 39 miles, and then like four miles in, you're like, shit, that was the wrong decision. And then before you know it, you've pulled over. Yeah, no, you got it, exactly. In there. If you're at the Yee-Haw Junction, you've already lost, Roy.
Starting point is 00:21:37 Yeah, screwed, game over. That means you're practically at Disney World. I used to love getting to that junction. Oh yeah, it's a landmarker. It means you're making progress. It's a meaningful thing. For those of you who don't know, when you drive from South Florida up to Orlando,
Starting point is 00:21:53 which for some reason you have to do as a parent. As a parent, when I was raising kids in New York, it was never even a thought that you'd go to Disney World. It's far and it's expensive. Then I had a child living in Florida and it was, yeah, of course you'd take this kid to Disney World. It's far and it's expensive. Then I had a child living in Florida and it was, yeah, of course you take this kid to Disney. Right of passage. Yeah, why?
Starting point is 00:22:10 Because of, but in New York there's no right of passage to go to Six Flags. Why would you want to do that? The one in Jersey. Why would you want to do that? Why would you want to go to New Jersey? Well, I'm saying you're in New York. But people travel from all over the world
Starting point is 00:22:22 to go to Disney World or to Disneyland. So when you have something that's within what a three-hour drive three and a half hour drive It feels like the type of thing that makes sense. No, it's but it was an obligation It was not a choice and that's what always bothered me about it. It was not even to keep it up with the Joneses It was not about socioeconomic position. It was everyone goes to Disney right period hard stop I'm against that and I was forced to do it. So go to Universal then well, they're too well, they're too short in the beginning Yeah, cuz it's all it's all like roller coasters. It's all big rides. I Used to cheat with height at Six Flags in Illinois. Did you put stuff in your shoes? Yes Yeah, we do that every year with the kids we take
Starting point is 00:23:06 to Universal for camp, for the camp I volunteer for. Every year we have to try to find a way to stuff their shoes with enough paper towel or things like that to get them just tall enough to be able to go on rides. Let me talk about litigation for one quick sec if you don't mind. Please. I was not aware, because I was a kid and I was always short.
Starting point is 00:23:24 And all I cared about was going to the ride. And back then, and I have a tattoo of it now. It was the, oh God, with the Road Runner, it was the Coyote, and his hand would be out and you had to touch the ledge in order to go on the ride. With the top of your head. So I went through a stage where I would spike my hair.
Starting point is 00:23:46 Because if you spike your hair, listen, it's the closest I could ever come to a fro. And it gives you three inches, which can be the difference maker. And so I go through all this stuff from my shoes. That's a Tuesday. Talking about the napkins, the brown napkins, like we have here at Metal Art.
Starting point is 00:24:04 Exactly. These are the ones you get at Metalarc. Exactly. These are the ones you get at the place. Just stuff them in the shoe. Stuff them in. That gives you two inches easy. Until I found out that the reason for the height restriction is the belt on the roller coasters,
Starting point is 00:24:17 and if you're too short, the belt becomes ineffective, and you can die. And then I stopped having my kids lie about height. Last year, what we took, because mind you, the camp that I volunteer for is it's a group of children who are either presently battling or have gone through battles with cancer.
Starting point is 00:24:33 And so it's tough enough to say no to a little kid who's upset. It's even harder to say no to this little kid who's upset. And our sweetest and cutest camper, he's eight years old, the year before had to accept, like he was three inches too short to go on one of these rides and we calmed him down. He was like seven years old, we calmed him down,
Starting point is 00:24:53 we got him to accept it. Our lead counselor sits off the ride with him but then the next year it's like, all right, I've grown three inches now, I know I've grown three inches, my doctor told me I grew three inches, I'm gonna be good to go. And he gets to the Hulk, and I mean,
Starting point is 00:25:05 and we had already preemptively stuffed his shoes with napkins, we were ready for it. We're like, he's for sure gonna blow up. And he comes up like a quarter of an inch short. And we tried to, I mean, we played every card that we had available to the people running it. And those bastards are serious about it. And they understandably are so serious about it,
Starting point is 00:25:22 but I have not witnessed a profound sadness of just tears streaming down this kid's face. Not my child even, a kid who I'm trying to give the best summer, and he's just sobbing and sobbing and sobbing, and no matter what we did, they would not budge. And I completely understand it given what you just said, which is this is really about the belt,
Starting point is 00:25:45 but that is like, that's gotta be one of the worst feelings you can have as a kid, is the coming up just short. It is, it's actually, it stays with me to this day. If you asked me about the bullying I got for being short, which I did for sure, the biggest impact of being small was at amusement parks, was for height. And there were many things. There was like a, with like jet skiing
Starting point is 00:26:08 or there's certain things you, there was one at a, what's the thing, oh, come on guys, when you're, when you, bumper cars. Oh yeah, for sure. Bumper cars, you had to be a certain height to have your own bumper car. And I had to go with a parent. This was the affliction of having older cousins.
Starting point is 00:26:24 Like I didn't have older siblings, but I had older cousins and we would all go to any of these places and they were 12, 13, 14 years old and I was like seven, eight or nine years old. I couldn't go on any of the stuff that they did, but it wasn't the same experience as what I imagine it was when it's, hey, it's all of my friends of the same age and now I'm the shortest in the group
Starting point is 00:26:42 and I can't go on the ride that they can. So I used to actually, in order, when there were class trips to amusement parks, I would be sick, because I didn't want to. So sad, David. I also, we had class ice skating trips, and my mom made me use my sister's ice skates, which were white.
Starting point is 00:27:00 Oh, figure skates? Figure skates. And I refused to go to skating wearing white skates. And so I would be sick every single time we went ice skating as a school. Parents don't think of these things. I couldn't afford my own skates for five times. So my sister had skates, then I used them
Starting point is 00:27:19 and they were white skates. And there's this thing that white skates are for girls and black skates are for guys. I don't know if that's a thing anymore. No, I don't. We live in Florida, I have no idea. So no one figure skates? Well, I mean, I wear hockey skates
Starting point is 00:27:32 and the ones you rent at the war memorial, the Iceplex is red for, I think, I think for the figure skates and gray for the hockey skates, so it's not white anymore. So they stopped. So you guys may not, you may be too young for this. There used to be white skates and black skates folks, it's Mike Ryan and do you know that Miller Lite has basically been a partner of this show for almost 20 years?
Starting point is 00:28:00 And as we celebrate 50 years of Miller Lite, that means for a large chunk of it, and look, I didn't go to school for math, but I'm pretty sure that's like 80% of the time that Miller Lite's been existing. They've been with our show. And I'm so grateful for it because we truly believe this. If you listen to us back in our radio days throughout our Times and National radio, to the pirate face, to now, you know that Miller Lite has been a huge supporter of ours. And I've always been a huge supporter of Miller Lite. Why? Because it's got taste you know you can depend on. A great beer trusted by beer lovers for 50 years.
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Starting point is 00:30:58 We've got you. We've all got each other. Let's go right now. Stugats. One, two, three, Brett. One, two, three, Brett. This is the Don LeBattard Show with. Stugats. One, two, three, Brett. One, two, three, Brett. This is the Don LeVatar Show with the Stugats.
Starting point is 00:31:09 ["The Stugats Show Theme"] All right, I got to talk about something else if you don't mind. Sure, sure, sure today. Do you think it's possible that religion can cure you? You know the people who say they found Jesus? They found the Lord. This is about White Lotus?
Starting point is 00:31:31 No, it's about Russell Brand. It's about Russell Brand, who's being charged with things left, right and center and saying, hey, that was, I was a bad guy, but now I found the Lord. And he did it, he released a video. If no one's seen it, you should check it out. It seems to be the greatest way to make an excuse ever
Starting point is 00:31:52 for your behavior. You just say, I was young, stupid, and I had not yet found God. Now, everything's good. I hope he did, but that doesn't excuse any of the behavior or crimes that he's accused of, you know what I mean? Why do you hope he found the Lord? If that's something that brings him comfort
Starting point is 00:32:10 and if that's something that leads him on the right ethical path from here on out, that's great. That's not right for everybody. Some people can find their own ethical path without needing to find specifically a given religion. If he did, wonderful. But the things he's accused of, it's one has nothing to do with the other.
Starting point is 00:32:29 Like the fact that he's throwing out this idea of like, oh, I found God and in turn I should have this merciful view from you is pathetic and it spits in the name of the people who actually have used religion for good within their lives, like to actually follow a moral code. So to me, I find it all preposterous. In theory, he is using it for good.
Starting point is 00:32:52 In theory, he's now a good person. I'm sad about it only because I enjoyed watching him work. And he's at the category where I'm not gonna separate art from the artist. I pick and choose when I do that, and Russell Brand doesn't rise to the level of the artist. I pick and choose when I do that and Russell Brand doesn't rise to the level of the separation for me. Like Michael Jackson, I still listen to his songs. I'm willing to. I'm willing to watch Kevin Spacey movies.
Starting point is 00:33:14 But Russell Brand, I don't care enough about him. Once he does what he did, allegedly, I think we're done with him. Still watching The Cosby Show? No, that's a great one. And I don't eat Jell-O. Or pudding. Jeremy has no idea the reference. I didn't. Is that an old reference also? Is it to The Cosby Show?
Starting point is 00:33:37 Then yes. Bill Cosby was one of the great endorsers of a product in history. Coca-Cola and Jell-O, he did the pudding. Jell-O brand gelatin. I knew the pudding one, but that's for parody reasons. He was a huge, huge endorsement guy. Back before, bigger than athletes.
Starting point is 00:33:57 Bill Cosby, I don't think, do people realize the length and depth of his stardom? I understand that he was a gigantic superstar. I just didn't understand the specific reference to his endorsements. Yeah, he was on TV. You couldn't go through a set of commercials during his heyday during a sporting event.
Starting point is 00:34:15 Forget a regular show on TV. You couldn't go through a Nazi Bill Cosby on a commercial. He was thinking about buying NBC at one point, but they wouldn't let him. That's interesting. That's like a player trying to buy a team. There aren't many players who can buy teams because he was on NBC. That was the Cosby show network. Correct. And there was a time, eight o'clock.
Starting point is 00:34:35 Was it Tuesdays at eight? Tuesdays. Yep. Tuesdays at eight. He ruled. And didn't it go into Seinfeld? Cosby, a different world into Seinfeld? Seinfeld was in a nine o'clock hour. Used to matter those hours. No one talks about that anymore.
Starting point is 00:34:51 Must see TV. But for White Lotus, I was in front of the TV at nine o'clock. I assume everybody was last night. It's what we do. Roy, do you watch Lotus? No, ma'am. Oh, man. Should we do it?
Starting point is 00:35:03 I assume, but. Spoiler alert. Okay, spoiler alert Oh, man. Oh, boy. Should we do it? I assume, but. Spoiler alert. Okay, spoiler alert. Spoiler alert, spoiler alert. To everyone listening, there are just over six minutes left in this hour. If you're listening or watching
Starting point is 00:35:16 and you watch White Lotus and don't wanna be spoiled, tune out now. Fair. We're gonna spend the rest of this hour talking about White Lotus. Come back for the post game show. And come back for the post game show. We want you here. How much time did you say?
Starting point is 00:35:28 It's now six minutes and three seconds. Yeah. And we still get credit for the listen, the number and the download, but we don't want you to leave. However, I'm gonna spoil White Lotus because I don't believe in the whole spoiler thing. It was on.
Starting point is 00:35:40 You've had time to watch. Well, we made a rule a couple weeks back that we were gonna do spoiler Wednesdays, so we gave everyone like had time to watch. Well we made a rule a couple weeks back that we were gonna do spoiler Wednesdays so we gave everyone like three days to catch up to the Sunday shows. This however is the finale so it's a little different. So there's five minutes and 40 seconds left.
Starting point is 00:35:56 Appointment viewing, last night, nine o'clock. Am I the only one who was hitting refresh on Macs waiting for the new tag to come? You might have been. I was watching the Knicks game, so I just flipped over at nine. Yeah. But when you flipped at nine, it was available?
Starting point is 00:36:12 Yeah. Mine didn't come to like nine oh one. I was a minute late. It could have been a, it could have, no, I didn't think there'd be any redress whatsoever. Did you skip the intro and the recap so you would be on par with everyone else? No, I skip intro and recap to every episode
Starting point is 00:36:29 except the last episode. So the finale of a series, I'll re-watch the intro music, which I hadn't watched since episode one, and then I'll watch the recap before the final episode. And I did. And I wanted to talk all about the Duke litigation because that to me was gonna be the final episode. And I did. And I wanted to talk all about the Duke litigation because that to me was gonna be the most interesting. I'm just glad Duke lost on Saturday
Starting point is 00:36:51 because I was kinda nervous we were gonna get to the point where they won the national championship and that meme just never. I was also thinking like, and this is maybe a spoiler, when he gets his phone back at the end, the dad, do you think he found out that Duke lost? And got really upset? And then he actually shot himself?
Starting point is 00:37:10 He was like, guys, things are about to change. It was filmed way before that. The answer is, I thought the end with that family, didn't you assume the end was that they all found on their phones the fact that they had lost all their money? Yes. And they were fine. They just didn't really show any sort of reaction. Did you like the finale? I didn't think it was that great. I was very upset that everyone could leave the island after all the deaths that quickly without
Starting point is 00:37:37 talking about it. How does that work? It seemed like there might have been a time jump though. Had to be. They were packed. They said it was the last night. Yeah you're right I mean... A time jump of like maybe like six or seven hours like it seemed like it was sort of sunset when they were leaving I'm like I don't really want to give the writers the benefit of the doubt because I found so many plot holes with the entire season but that at least I was like okay maybe they stuck around for a little bit and then they left. Can you imagine sending five million dollars to someone without a written agreement? Okay not even just, but there's a clear paper trail with this guy whose wife died
Starting point is 00:38:10 extremely mysteriously. Apparently, he's wanted by police and you're accepting $5 million from him. I also want to know, as I alluded to earlier, is she going to report this as income? Because she's going to get audited. Going from $12,000 to now I'm going to be spending all of this money that appeared with a clear paper trail in my account, like come on. I assumed he was paying the, I assume he filed the gift tax return.
Starting point is 00:38:32 Okay, maybe. So I assumed it was a gift, not in terms of a consideration. A consideration would mean that she has to do something to get that money, to get full legal consideration. I couldn't think of what the consideration was other than her not telling the fact that he was an accomplice to murder and hiding.
Starting point is 00:38:48 Why, but why not just launder the money if he's clearly already a suspect in a mysterious death? He's also hiding out in Thailand and- And now she knows where he is! And no, but like, and also like had his ex-wife murdered. I don't think he's filing his American taxes, if I'm gonna be honest with you. I think that he's skipping April 15th. Do you think he he's filing his American taxes, if I'm gonna be honest with you.
Starting point is 00:39:05 I think that he's skipping April 15th. Do you think he took all of his money out of the American bank though, that her money was in? It wouldn't have been transferred that way. I was just shocked. She had $12,683 in her account and then had 5 million and the son was all celebrating. And the line of the episode was,
Starting point is 00:39:22 can't you just let me be effing rich for five minutes? Because with money is problems and complications. And so he wanted to get going with his mom, and then boom, she's celebrating the five million. She did that masseuse dirty. Yeah, that's the point. So the whole point of the end of White Lotus of her story arc is she gets the money
Starting point is 00:39:42 and she turns into Tanya. She does exactly to the guy what was done to her. And it seemed so obvious and predictable. Like all of that finale felt very, and I enjoy the show and I'm still, I like the show and I don't think it was like a waste of time to watch the show. It was extremely entertaining.
Starting point is 00:40:00 And even the finale, I was very entertained. However, like Billy and I said last week on Mystery Create, they needed to really knock this finale out of the park for us to be like, great season. And, uh. What did you think, Billy, legacy episode? Did you think Lachlan was going to be the one to die? Or that everyone was gonna die except Lachlan?
Starting point is 00:40:19 I needed one of them to die. I was chanting Chug on my TV when they were drinking the pinapple. Like at Jonestown. I wanted them to die, yeah, Jonestown. Can you imagine doing that to your child that you kill everyone in the family but your son? I thought that was, I was so uncomfortable watching that,
Starting point is 00:40:33 I was pissed. Like for him to hear all of them talk about, I don't think I could live, I don't think I, yeah, yeah, I could live, all right, cool. Do you think you could live if I killed the rest of our family? Maybe that should have been a part of the conversation. I would have liked that to have been. Like, oh, do you think you could live if I killed the rest of our family? Maybe that should have been a part of the conversation. I would have liked that to have been.
Starting point is 00:40:48 Like, oh, do you think you could live without money? Yeah, do you think you could live without money? And also the death of your mother, father, brother, and sister? Maybe a different answer. Maybe he just knew about the tariffs. Maybe he knew that the American economy was gonna crash the day after this episode aired
Starting point is 00:41:01 and Duke was gonna lose. I think the disappointing part was that the daughter spent one night in the monastery and said that's it. That was so lame. She did all this research on this monastery and then was like, oh my god, well I stayed and it didn't have air conditioning. And the food stinks.
Starting point is 00:41:16 The line about, oh but you could just tell it wasn't organic is, I thought that was top tier writing. That was top tier writing. That was top tier writing. The only thing organic about that episode was the food that they served to them, I assume at the resort. But you should definitely watch it. It's worth your time. Hey audience, you know, it's that time of year
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Starting point is 00:43:07 I'm so grateful for it because we truly believe this if you listen to us back in our radio days throughout our times and national Radio to the pirate face to now You know that Miller Lite has been a huge supporter of ours and I've always been a huge supporter of Miller Lite Why because it's's got tastes you know you can depend on. A great beer trusted by beer lovers for 50 years. Miller Lite. Great taste. 96 calories. Go to MillerLite.com slash Dan to find delivery options near you, or you can pick up Miller Lite pretty much anywhere they sell beer. It's Miller time! Celebrate responsibly Miller Brewing Company, Milwaukee, Wisconsin. 96 calories and 3.2 carbs per 12 ounces.

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