The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Hour 2: The Jim Irsay of Jai Alai

Episode Date: August 9, 2023

Chris explains to the crew exactly how he went about last night's Jai Alai draft and gets roasted by nearly every single member of the show for his tactics. Domonique took Willow for a walk which leads us to a detailed conversation on dog poop. Then, is creating a Sports Culture always about hazing or indoctrination? Plus, Paul George is great at podcasting, Stugotz's Top 5 People In Sports He Wants To Vacation With, and a debate about the beach. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

You're listening to Giraffe King's Network. This is the Don't LaboTar Show with this 2-GOTS podcast. I mean, you were talking yesterday about what it's like when you don't know the name of a person you're now interacting with and what your move is Let me say right now. They're may or may not be people in this building right now that I'm actively engaged What's your go-to-word though is it man-bud? Like what are you? No, usually if I see the first time in the devil His name is Matthew Kugler. Kugs.

I knew it was standard with an M. Like, mark? Mikey. I know it's not Mike. That's like, there's two names. Oh, that's in this building actually. There's two names you could just throw it out there and you might get away with it.

Mike or Dan? Cause we have like seven mics and 14 Dan's here. Or Danes, or Danioles or whatever. So you still have some Chris's now just one Chris down to one Chris. You used to over index on Charlie's back in the day. Oh my God. I stepped in it last night at the Highlight Fantasy draft, fantasy draft. I'm working.

I'm doing like fantasy prep right now. So I'm just combining my worlds right now because I'm doing fantasy prep and highlight prep. But I thought you approached them both with equal seriousness. Fantasy way more. Highly draft last night, I'm introduced to somebody and then Fuentes is with me.

And it's that spot I just met somebody and I'm terrible with names. Like they go right, it's nice to meet you and then I just am like, wait, what was their name? And I should have just not said a name, but I go to, oh, this is Mike for the blah blah blah, and then he said their name to them, and they were like, hey, no, my name, and I was just, it's an awkward moment,

not a great feeling. Now, why would you, no, it's just an easy layup. Oh, you got, hey, this is Mike Fuentes. And then, no, I know, I, and then you step back after that. My head was spinning, I didn't know what I was doing. And it was nerve, you're right, it's just, this was pre-draft.

This was pre-draft when I didn't know whether we were going manure Douglass. And my head was spinning, I didn't know what I was serve your right. It's pretty draft. This was pre draft when I didn't know whether we were going manure Douglass. My head was spinning and it's not a great moment for your head was spinning on that. There's actually if you look at you go it if you a manoeuvred if you look at you go as a Aslum's Instagram story right now you can see a shot of him before the draft and in the background you see a panic to me and Mike Fuente's face timing Mike Ryan just because there was a lot of because we went into that draft from Greece.

Yes, but why are you face timing Mike Ryan? That's what I want. You might select the wrong player. But what he gonna do if he can't he would have been a bit of a drag. That's a great. He's shamed me for missing the championship game a couple seasons. What he loves to do. He loves to shame people and then he does the exact same thing.

I didn't even think of that. You're not? You're not actually financially invested in this. You don't actually own the piece. First of all, you don't know that. This guy, this guy. I know where that money goes. It's not to you, Chris.

It went to Tyler Van Dyke. And Destiny Harden. Well, she, she made something out of that. TVD, I mean, she's, I don't fire next to it. Ignorance is bliss, guys. What is Frentice's role? He's the head of scouting. So he's the one that she's nice.

Exactly. He's telling you what to do. We went into that draft. We walked into that building. We're taking Manu. But we just started getting ambushed with like a bunch of people trying to say that that was the wrong pick and that we should go Douglas.

So we just had a bit of moment of, let's just make sure we're doing the right thing here. Who are these people? Is it the lady from the media who interviewed you to late? You would be shocked. Who are these highlight draft fans that exist that are in a pressurey game? These are people in the league

that know way more about these players than I do. Why are they on your side? Players? Are players campaigning you? No, no, no, I was talking to dozens of people and there were a handful, there were. Dozens of people. There's never been dozens of people. At least 24 people. I'm talking about players, other owners, commissioner of the league. 24, a broad cat. Do you guys realize this is a whole league and there's a lot of people. So there's other owners

going up to you saying like, I don't think you should take that person with the first pick. And then they immediately go and draft that person. No, I know it, but it's just hard for you guys don't know how this works. Oh, I asked you like two weeks ago, where's a draft pool of players come from and you didn't know how it worked. I was like, how can I get someone in there? You're like, I don't know. I don't, I don't know what to do here. I'm trying to do it.

You don't know what you're talking about. Like, we had the first two. It seems like neither do you. We had two of the first like Mike. We had two of the first three my we had two of the first three picks in the draft because the top other rest of the teams caught kept their top two picks right so you don't pick in those rounds so we essentially had the first we had four of the first five picks in the draft what that's what I'm saying because what the second or the first five you dominate red our

bottom why we did dominate like the Raiders a couple years ago This is just hard to explain to people that don't know what they're talking about Billy's trying to criticize Well most drafts don't let you just keep your team together and choose not to keep really some keep relieves do Billy It's so Fuentes is doing it But not with real people yes I don't know what I just want the audience to appreciate that Chris is now trying to earnestly explain how the four of the first five picks thing is a credit to the Sestocyte. And I'm talking to actually inform people.

He's gesturing with his hands in a very earnest way. But you're discussing your draft strategy with other team owners and players in the league. That's the part that we go in. Players in the league that are going in like the fifth round. Guys that play with all of these players every year for years. So it would be like basically, it'd be like me asking another NBA player,

about an opinion about yes, they have opinions, they see these guys play. So it's like if Pat Riley was like, oh man, should we trade for Bradley Bealas, should we trade for for Damien Lillard? It'd be like, hold on, should we trade for Bradley Bealas, should we trade for Demi Lillard? Hold on, hold on. Hold on, hold on. What's it like playing?

I go to other people that play with Douglas. It's not that. Hey, Dreymon, what was it like playing with? Let me ask Cavanlooney. Exactly, that's what it is. Let me ask Cavanlooney, what are you thinks? Dlyler or Bio, what do you think? No, it's more like, hey, you played on the same team

with Lillard, how does he react when it's not going well? Stuff like that. Like, do you, talking to Alan Crab? Yeah. Yeah. I would talk to him. He was in fourth.

I like the idea of Chris, like, uh, uh, old girl in, in role models when she brings in the kids because of the camping trip that went bad. Is it who brought the ambience on the trip. I don't think just standing over the shoulder of the players like, Manu or was it the guy Douglas? Douglas. He's got the better arm.

He's just over the shoulder. There were more people saying Manu. Hold on, I have a question. If you had four of the five first picks, why didn't you take both of them? Because we didn't have the second pick. We had the first pick. You had one with the third and the fourth. That's three. Was that three? Three at the second pick. We had the first pick, we had one, we had the third and the fourth.

That's three. What's that? Three and the top four, I'm sorry. Cause no, then someone had the fifth. So one, three and four, someone else had the second. We had four of the top seven. We didn't have the second overall pick and we didn't have the fifth overall pick.

I'm beginning to see why you guys finished in last place. Yeah. I do love it. All of these people, by the way, who are just like, I presume to be normal people who aren't making a ton of money, just like listen to this show sometime. No, but this is how this is the money.

This is my boss. That's why I take this so seriously, because we do this whole sticky thing of like, oh, I'm the owner, but then I show up this day. This is taking it seriously. And this is their real life. These guys are so serious about this. So yes, I talk to the broadcasters.

I talked to everybody that's more informed than I am. I love Riley going to Harrison, telling him, hey, I'm gonna make this trade. And Harrison responding, what does Buddy Heal think? I hate it. Buddy Heal, no, it sounds like Buddy Heal is a little too high up in there. It's like, you gotta go, you gotta go lower.

You gotta go lower. No, it's like, I'm asking Roger Gidell. T.J. and Joe Buck. I'm asking T.J. Oh, fuck. Yeah. Jesus. Let's get sold by Zaea Wong.

Zaea. This isn't a bit Christmas. I'm laying out because this is not a bit. Well, I don't know what the bit is. Like you're asking me about what happened. But I could see like because this is not a bit. Well, I don't know what the bit is. You're asking me about what happened. But I could see like, use the print. The bit of this fun. Well, we poke fun, Chris is like fun with us.

This time, he's like, nah man. He feels a responsibility to his real livelihood. We really did put effort into picking the best team. And we are all very ignorant and you need more than all of us. We're unwilling to learn, you're right. Well, it's just, but don't think I paid whether they finished first one. No, they get a $50,000 bonus at the end of the championship.

What? Split them all. You guys should not have come in last. Twi went back to the roots. But go back to what pop was about. So where are we right now doing this like this job? I had a nice interaction with. I really want his name bleep.

And he's like, the one name you did remember. You said it four times now. You're the one doing it. I had a nice interaction with I really want his name bleep. And he's like the one name you did remember. You said it four times now. You're the one doing it. I think twice. He said it four. He said it four times. And it means that it wants. But I just like that.

I did this guy's like going about his day or even worse like his friends like, oh, you hear they talk about you on the show? Yeah. Yeah, Chris blamed you for not winning the championship last year. Said you cost the guys $50,000. What team is he on now? The wall warriors.

Oh, my family said bleep the wall warriors. Oh my God, that's the... Trust me, they ended up just like pick out a couple of guys. Because they were picking where we picked last year. They came in set. The worst spot to come in is the losing in the championship because you get the second to last pick and you get to keep one less player than the winning team. So it's just that fifth pick is a brutal spot to draft.

So hold on, the guy that's on is now playing for the team that you should on. Yeah. Oh my god, man. They're in a tough spot this year. The wallwers are in the spot. We were last year where they're drafting low in the draft and they couldn't keep as many guys as the champion. It's a tough, that fifth spot. We saw it last year. You can go from first to last. Where's your champion the year before? Yeah. So then we know better than we were champion and then we lost in the

championship and then last. So this is our fourth year. That's the worst spot to losing in the championship. Put us in a really bad spot for last season, which is why we came in last. And that's why the wall wears is going to be tough for them. And that's why it's cool. And that's why we feel really good because we are in that first pick. We had the topic. So we got any guy we kind of

wanted any drown. So do you think your players are like our owner needs to shut the hell up because he's giving the wall warriors a bunch of bullets and board material because like presumably you're the only owner has a platform that's going to be about. Lash here I said bleep the wall worries that's giving them bulletin board material. Everything I just said about you blamed the player on the team that you said that you hate.

Yeah. Hey, I mean, I feel like I've said enough, I don't want to say more about that. You're the gym ursay of high lies that we're learning. Let's say Lolita. This is an amazing, amazing, and by the way, he's not the only owner of the platform anymore. No, but he's the only one that's doing a show about it. I feel like you, D's, not going to be out there ripping other teams players to you. I feel like Moscow, Del Will.

You guys made me do this. You guys pushed me into this corner where I had this, like, I'm the reason. No one told you to own a highlight Did you really invest money how much it had cost you? worry about it Well, let's become a burden can we buy in can we have a show buy in maybe I didn't invest money I just get paid to do it. That's the opposite That's quite the other

Micah Fwentes are in here trying to get some Fwentes get paid also he's finding out right now Oh, of course he's not wise and greased Fwentis are in here trying to get some stuff. Fwentis get paid also. He's finding out right now. You guys have paid? Does Mike Ryan get paid? Oh, of course. He's not. It's why he's in Greece, right? I didn't think he's in Greece. I just want to check in on Chris by having him

raise his arms into the air. I feel like those pits are way sweatier now. Yep. Oh, man. Damn, this segment is the interrogation. Those are the pits of someone that just sold out. One of the former players on his highlight. Do you make more than the players?

No. He does when they lose. Well, I don't have to win to make money. Are we becoming... Are we turning? Are we turning? This show into like the first take of High-Light. Look, there's panic.

Oh, it's in the actual front time. Yeah. That's panic to call it Mike. You two.com slash libertarian friends, a panic Chris Cody in Fuentes, lingering behind you, Donnis has them calling a panic Mike Ryan in Greece. That was exactly as you described it to be honest. That is exactly what it looks like.

Don Lebertard, Lou Holt, number one, Kelly, tripping my balls off. Don't let it hard LOOHOLT Number one tell you TRIP IT MY BULL SOUTH I can't play a little touch of grey You cannot give me enough fake lOOHOLT Saying any number TRIP IT MY BULL SOUTH WERE You can't give me enough STUGATS

DRAWL ON THE Microphone I'm not sure what you're going to do. You're not going to pass the fire to avoid the eating moment. F***. This is the Don Lebatar show with this Tugat. So Dominique's here. You are somehow sweatier than Chris Cody. Chris Cody is pit-stained everywhere.

You got a front like your abs or sweating. I've never seen that spray pattern before. I've seen it. I see it on really fit, guys. Well, no. That's why I've never seen it. What's up, Dominique? What did do? I'm sweating because I took a dog for a walk. I love dogs. This is what happens when you get muscles. Is that your muscles sweat?

Oh, here we go. You have muscles. They just are hidden under a little pooch insulation is what we call it. Yeah, how I get that's why I have sweat patches there you go You look great. You got a lot of water stored there in case the drought hits my pee is very translucent Good for you. Wait hold on did you check in the urinal that changes colors? Let you We were talking about how Good for you. Wait, hold on. Did you check in the urinal that changes colors? Let you confirm. We were talking about how college, yeah, the Jags, college football teams have those

terror alert scales of urine color. But Dominic, this is why I don't get if your urine is already color coded to let you know when you're dehydrated. And why do I need a urinal to back me up on this? You don't. Your muscles will tell you when you catch a full body cramp. Like, I mean, drink water. That's all you gotta do. We don't need special urinals to tell you when you catch a full body cramp. Like, I mean, drink water. That's all you gotta do.

We don't need special urinals to tell you to drink water. Also, just sabotage me. I'm sorry, though. I love her anyway. I don't think I sabotaged you. I think you made a decision knowing possible outcomes and the least favorable outcome occurred. You walked her dog?

Yeah. Oh. He volunteered to walk her and I was like, are you sure about that? And he was like, I love dogs. I walked her dog? Yeah. Oh. He volunteered to walk her and I was like, are you sure about that? And he was like, I love dogs. I don't have a dog. I wish I had a dog. And I'm like, okay, if you're sure you want to walk here,

here's a release. What are you doing? And then he walked her. I was like, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, before I walked out, I was like, so she already pooped, though, right? She's like, yeah, she probably is not going to poop. She, my dog is so, so, so regular.

She poops every day at 7 a.m. and at 4 p.m. and that's it. But around Dominique, I guess. She gets a little bit more comfortable. Relax, you get a little excited. She wanted to show off for me and I appreciate it. I scooped it up through the trash. Come back there.

Did you have, yeah. You gotta have the bags on the leash. Oh, so is it like an apparatus? No, it's a bag. you put your hand in the bag. Oh! Pick it up. You're holding it up. I'm holding it up.

Well, I mean, that thin layer. Technically, you're not touching anything ever. You could feel the body heat coming off of it. Wait, I like Dominique's theory that our skin is a membrane that never allows the true us to ever touch anything. It's not our skin in a membrane. Like, you actually don't physically attack. It's a bag. No, I a skin and membrane. Like you actually don't fit the attack. It's a bag.

No, I mean, not even the bag. You're not touching the bag. Like there's a barrier, never mind. I thought you were talking about life in general and you're making an existential point about what I'm scared of. No, I told you I've been reading a lot of physics books lately, but we actually never come in contact with anything. Go on.

I like it. Go on. Never mind. It's gonna be a tangent that's gonna upset everyone. Oh no, a tangent. We don't do tangents on this. Never mind, it's all right. It's gonna be a tangent that's gonna upset everyone. Oh no, a tangent. We don't do tangents on this. We never come in contact with anything. Just close, sign, sign.

Next time pick up the shit with your hand and smush it on your face. It's not actually coming in contact with you. It won't, it actually won't. It's just hovering. It's true. Just got the cushion. Micro.

Harvard. But anyway, I don't have a dog. I've always had dogs, but now I have three kids and I do not need another Life to be responsible for and my wife's allergic to dogs, so So wish it if she or does she play the mean card which is to tell the kids I'm allergic to dogs So I don't get one as I wish I wish that was what she was playing So her parents have dogs and whenever we go over to their house, my wife, I swell up and she's whatever. So yeah, she actually is.

I can look at my eyes. Oh, nice. That's a good skill. But I love dogs, so it was fun. I was just joking about the poop. I anticipated it as an outcome and I got the fold. Thank you. Pet that experience.

It was nice. Gross. Disgusting. I would never, ever in a million years, ask you to walk my dog so don't worry this will never ever have I do do a mean so I mean in a means defense. I do love dogs But I don't think that you should bring your dog to work Wow

That's fine. I the thing is everyone else really enjoys her around being around I like willow and in fact the person that runs our company told me to bring her in every day. Bimal Kapadia. I'm not saying Bimal lives in New York. But that's who I take my orders from. Let me just bring dogs to work. I pulled a ping pong ball to the dog mouth earlier because I was worried Willow would die back here on my wall.

She would have been fine. Trust me. It just would have been fine, trust me. It just would have came out the other end and don't really have to talk about it. There was a very legitimate reason why I've had to bring her to work the last couple weeks, but I don't wanna get all into that because I don't wanna reveal too much about my personal life.

But trust me when I say, I would prefer if she stayed at home and someone could take care of her while she's at work. That is a hell of a move, Jess. I like that, I like that move. Thank you. Yeah, you reference personal life, but no one can ask any more details. And that gives you protection for it.

It's nothing bad. It's just like, I'm not, now you're weakening it. I'm gonna start, I'm gonna start. What's it doing this? Was it because of Kareya? Pablo, you might as well just say the F word over and over and over and over and over again.

I'm sorry Chris. Chris is sweating. Dude, what's going on, man? He's not happy. Just talking to video people about how to fix everything. I want to talk about what it's like when you join an organization, I mean like the Miami heat in reality. Uh-huh. And we talked about you, Donas Haslam, we talked about culture, right? And Dominique is a big culture philosopher. I wanna know what it's like when you actually show up to the heat and you've been given access

to a world in which you, Donas Haslam, your most prominent alum in this way talks about championship expectations. Yeah, so Dominic Chris was telling us you know, he's in the high ally league and you decent and you decent and you do every guy that they drafted He would shake their hand and say championship expectations. That's how he greeted the guys And so I said wow is this like a window into what life is like for the Miami heat Is this how they greet new people is how this how they indoctrinate people?

It starts literally on the day they meet. And I got confirmation from one, Miami Heat employee who shall remain nameless because I don't burn my sources, Chris. And my source said, yes, that is what they say, shout out to J.J.X. who was here earlier, by the way. Yes, that is what they say.

Spoke gave me a book on how to achieve success, and I'm just their backup sideline reporter. That is my anonymous source on this, so. Testicle Jeremy? I don't need sources, all right. That's what I do. As a young person, I remember when we would have these individual, like isolated behaviors that coaches or teams or whatever

would do and I would always be like, that's nonsense. But as I get older, I appreciate the idea of the collection of all these things. If they are pointing to a certain direction, it is a constant reminder and it's impossible to measure. Obviously, you win or lose games by what happens on the field. But if you can like indoctrinate or like train away of thinking. What's the most ridiculous like cultural indoctrination? I talked about this today on get up

because we were talking about the culture shift where Sean Payne is saying no bucket hats on the sideline. What? Yeah, no bucket hats on the sidelines of preseason games don't take your jerseys off. Like essentially you know how preseason games go. The starters, after they're done playing or if they don't play at all,

and they're just spectating. Eating hot dogs, they spit in sunflower seeds. They got all sunglasses. He's like, none of that. Bucket hats specifically. Well, actually, he's a very old man. So he said, none of those Gilligan hats. Oh, three hour tour.

Gilligan hats. They're called bucket hats. And no one calls it, no one knows who Gilligan is, by the way. Gilligan hats. They're called bucket hats. And no one calls it, no one knows who Gilligan is, by the way. He's 59. Anybody? Gilligan, Gilligan. Vins Gilligan. Creator of Breaking Bad.

Two. By the way, we had Vince Gilligan on. This is, I keep telling this story because it's one of my favorite stories. Eleanor. We had. Look at me, boo. It's the show, it's not me.

We had Vince Gilligan on and Dan loves Breaking Bad. And I guess they had been tracking him down for years trying to get him on the show. So he finally come on the show. And Dan does the embarrassing super fan. What were you guys thinking about in season five when you did, and the guy's just answering. And so I said, Dan, I got a question.

And I said, have you ever thought about like rebooting Gilligan's island? Such a name as Gilligan. And my man said, Dan, I got a question. And I said, have you ever thought about like rebooting Gilligan's islands? Such a name is Gilligan. And my man Vince Gilligan lit up nice for the first time in the interview. He was like, actually, and he said, I saw it and Dan is like, no, no, you're not gonna ruin this to mean

with your dead fish question. I said, hey, I asked the question this guy actually likes to the, what about the audience? I said, the audience doesn't care about these questions either. They like my questions. Dan never forgave me for that day, but I digress. He employs you now, so I think he forgave you.

Kind of goes back to what we were saying in the local hour. What's that? Sometimes Dan's a little mean to guests. Well, we're a little awkward to that, maybe. Awkward, I would say mean, I would say awkward. Sometimes mean that. I don't know, if I'm a cool again, I'm not necessarily calling that awkward.

Or nice. I like when it's a big star and he says, I like the choices you make. Oh. Ha ha ha. Man, what is it? Well, was it was a Charlotte last week who told the bid or work of a big fan of your work

or whatever. I think Charlotte said that to him. Was that what Chris, you were there? You don't know. I think Charlotte said it to him. And I'm going to tell you that it worked because we came out of an elevator afterwards coming back to the studio and Beto was getting in.

And then said hello and goodbye to Charlotte again. And it was the only person that Beto remembered. And it was because she said I'm a big fan of your work. I was gone at that point though. No we witnessed the one that was here right? Oh my god. But wait, I mean why are you talking about this? About Beto Rourke.

About any of this? Well I was telling a story about culture culture and the thing that the weird thing was before games, Ed Readin I would use a soccer ball to warm up, like three hours before games, we would use a soccer ball to warm up. And John Harbaugh was like, enough of that. He didn't like it, whatever reason. And we were like, okay, that's fine.

I mean, that's one of many. Because he's a Harbaugh. Yeah. I mean, that's one, and he's actually the cool Harbaugh. And by the end of my time there, I liked him, and it was cool, and everybody, but coaches do weird stuff. And I understand it more as I get older,

but I still, like, some of it's just weird. So my question, like big picture philosophical about this is that culture building is on the same spectrum on the terror alert p-scale, right? A philosophy around culture building. Culture is the translucent, hazing is the big red part. These are a lot. Yes, it's about all the word indoctrination training it out.

It is on, I mean, it's on a continuum. I think you gotta be, oh, that continuum somewhere, but forcing people to go through uncomfortable things is a form of team building and culture building. But how uncomfortable you would have make those things is the question. So like singing in front of people, it's uncomfortable for everybody, but it is a way of humbling people and bringing them together, beating them with paddles as colleges might do or sororities and fraternities might

do might be a little too far forcing them to drink too much until they throw up. You're gone a little far. Let me say some man, I'd never heard of black fraternities before I got to college. And so I was like, oh, cool, that's what you gotta do. And they said, explain, I was like, I'll do this for how long? Like hell no, man.

I could not believe it. But it also, I guess, is better than the alternative, which is what the white fraternities are like. White Frats, I think, of animal house. Black frats, what do I supposed to think of? School days, right? But school days isn't, like, I don't, look, let me tell you something, man,

some of the stuff they were doing was, I don't think the government in school days wouldn't put it that way. Electrons within your body and within the object that you touch are actually what's between you and anything that you touch Oh, say that to the poop The same is true of all mankind when you plop down in a chair or

Slink into your bed the electrons within your body are repelling the electrons that make up the chair You are hovering above it. Hmm. So technically we're all virgins You are hovering above it. So technically we're all virgins. Don Lebertard! How do you know it's haunted? Well, I saw ghouls. Oh, okay. Multiple ghouls.

That'll do it, yeah. Well, I saw the face of one ghoul. I had a ghoul scream in my ear once, and I had a mirror-lemon row painting that kept moving around the house. Oh, no. Haunted house. Yep.

Still gots. Usually when I think there's an intruder I'll walk down the hall and I'll just loudly say, take whatever you want. Just leave me alone. No, leave me alone. I'm just taking your work. I'm having shurries. We can all get out of here.

I'm serious. It'll be perfectly fine. Take whatever you want. I wrote down all of the Vint Numbers. We are good. We're good. I love the idea. Really impresses your wife.

I love some grudge. Just a couple steps to your room. We have some bottles of water. If you're thirsty. This is the Don Lebatar Show with the Stugats. I didn't know Paul George is going to be this good at podcasting. I mean, I like Paul George. show with this two gods. I didn't know Paul George is going to be this good at podcasting, I mean, I like Paul George. I profiled Paul George. I've hung out with him in Indianapolis for ESPN magazine. And it did not predict him at that time for being a guy who would get content like this.

What did you predict him? To be a two way player who was like the second best two-way player behind LeBron James. You smoked weed with him, or? I did play FIFA and eat breadsticks, but somehow did not smoke weed. That seems impossible. Yeah, I know.

Just based on the other things you were doing. But what kind of breadsticks? It was stuffed from killer oiz in downtown Indy, like stuffed. I love the noise. Yeah.. Yeah, great little like Indiana bar Absolutely Who pays the journalist? Really, yeah, the expense card though, right? It's in it. It's an expense Yeah, but he offers and you're like nah, I can expense. I can't be paid by a source. I can't be paid off

by a source just two humans though, enjoying the meal together, and cutting it up. Alas, in this journalistic interaction, I had ethics. And it did not portray Paul George in my story as a guy who would get content from Clay Thompson Amin, in which Clay Thompson would say things that made me both like Clay Thompson a lot more, but then make me reflect on what it's like to actually be,

a hyper competitive athlete who was getting blown out by the Phoenix Suns, 135 to 104 on October 25th last season, causing Clay Thompson to taunt Devon Booker with the whole four rings thing, count them four rings. I said, are we gonna play the clip? No. Okay, we're just all right. But I'll tell you what Clay Thompson said,

which is said, I regret that. I was in my feelings that day, book was busting my ass that day. I was not where I needed to be. You know stuff doesn't age well, that didn't age well for me. I don't need to be flexing for rings, like everybody knows that, that's on Wikipedia.

My game wasn't where it was. We all get insecure at times. And it was this moment of vulnerability that made me want to hang out with Clay Thompson. I was like, this is a guy who was like, I regret this thing, which felt like, performative alpha stuff. And it was like, actually, I was insecure.

He seems like it'd be a fun hang. Absolutely. I'd be at a boat with Clay Thompson. Clay Thompson has a boat. He wears a captain's hat. All of this makes him a three dimensional person that I actually really want to spend time with. I agree.

Like, trying to think now who I want to go on vacation with. I have a top five. What? You have a top five of people you want to go on vacation with. Oh, hold on. People in sports just ready. And this top five. I've been waiting for this topic my entire life.

It's funny. You mentioned that because this top five is brought to you by Royal Caribbean. Get ready for the world's biggest weekend. It's funny you mentioned that because this top five is brought to you by Royal Caribbean. Get ready for the world's biggest weekend, utopia of the seas, Royal Caribbean's action pact, jaw dropping, thrill seeking, max relaxing, adrenaline inducing, weekend cruise. So just to be clear, you had ready, a top five list of athletes you want to go on vacation with. At the ready, yeah. And this also just so happened to be sponsored by Royal Caribbean

A.K.A. But it didn't say a cruise though, it's just vacation. And it did say draws dropping. Incredible. Mm-hmm. Hell yeah. Always prepared, Billy. Stugots is top five athletes you want to go on vacation with.

Number five. Number five is Rob Grinkowski. Good answer. That's a really good start. Thank you. Are they are they are wait are the other four just other rock brothers. Yes. Chris number four.

Number four Chris Grinkowski. Who's real number four. Number four. Chris Grinkowski. Who's real number four? Come on, what are we doing here? Number three. Jabba Chamberlain. What's happening here? What's happening here? I see what's happening here.

Number two. Mojo. Billy, not going to make this list. Are you just planning a God bless football cruise? Oh my God. Number, that's a good idea I would not give him ideas Feldman

Number one on today's episode of stupidity Ron say Penguin you've been flogging Ron say for weeks now It feels like I love Ron say. Jabba Chamberlain would crush a cruise. He would. It's not a doubt about that. So would Mojo. Well, I thought this wasn't a cruise, it was just a vacation. But if you're gonna go on a vacation with this group,

a Royal Caribbean cruise is where to go. Oh boy. I have a top five list by the way. Who? Is this also sponsored by Royal Caribbean? I don't believe so. I don't think so. Get ready for the Royal...

Probably should biggest weekend. The utopia of the seas believe so. But it can be. Get ready for the Royal Biggest Weekend. The Utopia of the Seas. Go ahead me. All right. Top five athletes are connote vacation. Oh wow. All right. Huh.

Number five. Sandy Alcantara. Sandy, Sandy Beech. Are you a beach guy? I mean, I love the beach. Really? That's a price. I love the beach. I love the beach number four

Drew holiday Number three tie summers Number two Kelvin Beacham It's a good pull. That's a good pull. They better be a Brandon Beachy in here man. Oh number one Drew breeze That's a good pull. There better be a brand and beachy in here man. No, number one, Drew Breeze. It's pulled it off. That's a pretty good list. It's pulled it off, that's bad. I think that the beach has gotten a bad rap lately.

I've heard a lot of people saying, like lately, oh, the beach is overrated. No one actually likes the beach. Too sandy. No. Too sandy, too high, too much sun, too the beach. Too sandy. No. That's it. Too sandy, too high, too much sun, too many sharks. No, sharks are not an issue.

Sharks are new. You are testing it. They're not an issue. I did see a shark attack. And there was a shark attack at Rockaway Beach this past week. And it was super popular beach right outside of New York City. Made beach. But I think people that have problems with the beach, you're not doing it the right way.

The beach is awesome. I don't know what people are talking about. You problems with the beach, you're not doing it the right way. The beach is awesome. I don't know what people are talking about. You go to the beach. Oh, I love leaving and just where I have sand and all the crevices in my body. You don't get it. I love having to wash my feet off at this stupid shower that I'm just gonna take four steps away from the shower

and my feet are sandy again. Look, this is what you're supposed to do. Stupid shower. Let them go on me. Let them go on me. Let them go on me. Let them go on me. Let them go on me. Let me wash my ankles off. Let me make this awkward position. Let me wash my ankle. Make this offer position. I'm going to get the back of my ankles here with this freaking stupid thing.

I got a. I'm sorry, but me. I'm going to open that shower after you've been in the saltwater ocean. No, but it feels great. But it's been exfoliated by the sand is one of the greatest joys in life. That back ankle walk right back into the sand. I mean, not man. Make your shower near the clean area.

Well, but all four of you get in the sand, and then there's seven steps in the sand to get out. But counterpoint, don't be an idiot. Like plan accordingly. Look at your surroundings and figure out how you're gonna avoid the sand. There's still sand everywhere. Let me look at your car,

and let me look at your trunk. There's still sand. You just take the towel with you, knock it off your feet before you get in the car, dude. You just gotta slap it around. Exactly. I love finding sand in my car Why? It's a reminder. It's like a souvenir exactly right what a great time we had at the He's like howls down on the seat and then you don't get sand on everything. It's super easy

You wait a mean treat sand the way David Samson treats his farmers town exactly right In 1986 Treats Sand the way David Samson treats his farmers, Tan. Exactly right. Mm-hmm. Remind me of a better place. It's been here since 1986. As it reminds me of the time I went to, uh, I have found from the Nixon administration. If you have a farmer's tan since 1996, like go to a dermatologist, please for the little. At that point it's also not a tan.

It's just what you look like. That's older than me by two years. No. What? You're years. What? You're 35. What? Oh, I thought I said 86. No.

I mean, tell this guy about the beach, please. The beach is awesome, man. First of all, it's free. How many fun things that you can you do that are just... Wait, not the way I do it. Why are you guys acting like we don't know what the beach is? Because you guys are acting like we don't know what the beach is. We just don't like it. Why don't you like it?

As I get older, I find myself not liking the beach or the sun. I mean, I just, I don't like it. This pub's up and packing new nerves. I hate you so. I hate you so. Why do you live in Florida? Out of boy. Apparently, the mega-million-sticky was bought at a pub,

looks. No way. Wow. Messy? One, yo. I will go with what his ass if that's legit. Yes, consider me a threat. One point, if he won 1.5 billion, no, we're gonna fight.

We're gonna fight, bro. Unless you give it all away instantly, if he gives like, oh, this is great, but I don't need it, I'm giving it away to charity. Who wins in a fight, Messi, Hermione. I will wash him. Wow, he's tiny. I'm with the mean on this I do not think

they ever wash it I'd like to see it though I would love it as a charity for charity for charity wait but Billy you're not saying listically you're not saying messy wins I mean has a shot there no but you're acting like a mean is like six foot five also you're acting like he's five foot seven he's tiny remember when you're a kid you would drink a soda can when you finished you put it on the ground and you just crush it like that. That's exactly what I would do. I mean, I saw you race. Like, come on.

What if you do it like a cat? You do it like a cat, you know. Hold on, you're my size though. There's a difference. It's a world class athlete. I love to see Leo Messi. He plays an MLS. How world class could it be?

I'd like to see Leo Messi kick. I mean, like a lower like one. Yeah, what kind of fighter we talk? Our allowed are kicks allowed or is this like a fight anything's allowed. I mean, I mean, I mean, a mean verse messy in a game of highlight with Chris Cody as the ball. Please, I'm begging for someone to create this visual. I couldn't lift me right. I mean, yeah, no, not a chance. this visual. Messy's small, I couldn't lift me, right?

I mean, yeah, no, no, not a chance. And not a chance. You crystal walk up and just a shadow will come across Messy and you're like, oh my God. He's like, like an independent state. Why did I become a pelota? Like an independent state. I don't know, but it's cute. When did you start earnestly saying pelota?

He's a owner, yeah. How old are you, I mean? How old am I? Yeah. Literally no one knows. Don't worry about that. Yeah. Well, because Messy's also younger than you. I mean how old am I yeah literally no one know where about that? Yeah, well Cuz Messi's also younger than you like a top of being a professional athlete. You don't know that between 35 and He's 36 put it on me. We so they say we're gonna fight for charity a

Mean or messy we gotta say what kind of fight it is though. I like an MMA fight I think no fight matters in the scenario it does, it does, because if kicks are banned, I think it means that he wins all fights. No. I'll allow the kicks. I'll allow, like, what you're saying about the kicks. The kicks definitely make a difference, because he kicks for a living.

You know what I mean? That head kick comes up and your, it's only got that left. This fight is on turf, though. Hold on, what do you do? Yeah, I wanna know the answer to that question. Keep the guard up. I kick ass. Oh, that's what I do. Hey, we got to know the answer to that question. Keep the guard up. I kick ass. Oh, that's

what I do. Hey, we got into your beach take yet. Who minor Chris is? I regret. I think we heard my beach station. You were supposed to tell us how to do the beach. Yeah. Although I already pre- like 10 minutes ago. Well, I kind of bought because we know how to do the beach. We just don't like it. Let's see. I think that you saying you know how to do the beach, but you don't like it. Let's see, I think that you saying you know how to do the beach, but you don't like it indicates that you actually don't know how to do the beach. Yeah. I agree with that. And I also will say, It's not that groundbreaking.

You bring a chair, you bring a tense or whatever, and you bring a cooler with you like, it's not this hard concept to pick up. A chair? Attent, what are you camping? Exactly. Too much. I don't, you guys don't bring a chair to the beach or at all. Apparently I'm doing the beach right.

You're doing the beach wrong. I'm not laying on the sand. Where do you sit? I mean, you put down a towel and I'm not doing the set like bet you a big bet. They have like no. You want your shoes and the corners. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Here's the thing about the beach that can't be replicated on any other place on earth. And that is the game of spike ball. I love spike ball. I like the game. It's a cheat. There are certain bachi beach bachi. There are certain things you can do on a beach. You can't do anywhere else. It's the one with the frisbee and like the little Oklahoma drill.

It's like no, it's like it's got the little like slot where if you get it in the slot, you get it at your points. If you just can jam. Cam jam. There it is. Ah, the beach. And then you get in the water. If you just can jam can jam there it is Ah the beach and then you get in the water